I wouldn’t give Leavanny spore… it breaks the conversations and rules of the move. Spore is strictly for mushrooms… instead you could give it a signature move that has a 95-100% chance to put the target to sleep… call it Lullaby or something and lean into to Nanny aspect of Leavanny
Or they could buff the accuracy of Grass Whistle because 6 evolution lines can learn it from level up and 12 evolution lines can learn it from breeding And if the accuracy buff is too much then the number of Pokemon that can learn it could be reduced (like how the number of Pokemon that could learn Toxic or Scald was reduced)
Yeah, even one where it heals all of the Pokemon in your team and your ally's Pokemon team, especially the Fairy-Types. Also, gives Eevee a quicker chance to evolve into either a Bug-Type Eeveevoultion when we get one, Espeon, Umbreon, Sylveon or a potential Normal-Type Eeveevoultion which I call Eeveeon, if fought alongside with the Leavanny or if the Eevee is in your current party at the time. Bonus points if the Pokemon is not fully evolved or is very young regardless of the stage of evolution it's at. Would a signature ability where it heals Pokemon's HP work?
They should have never made Fairy resist bug… infact they should have made bug be super effective against it (because bugs eat nature and fairy’s are tied to nature) and either resist or full blown immune to fairy!!! And the Lore reason being that “fairy magic doesn’t effect bugs because they have a different brain and or soul than most creatures!!! It never made sense to nerf even further the weakest Pokémon in the game which didn’t even really buff the fairy type by making it resist it
@@senorjecansu1093 poison bug overlap tricky, dont want poison to just be better bug, so if poison remains fairy answer, bug must resist it and maybe resist poison back, along with getting bonus inherent terrain effects for the 4 terrains
Black/White Kyurem cannot learn Ice Punch despite having giant arms and Iron Valiant can learn Skill Swap despite it always failing due to Quark Drive not being swappable, I don't think Game Freak would care too much if something like Leavanny learns Spore
"ice punch has punch in it so unless you have hands, you'd never get that move lol" The Gastly and Wooper in question: 👁️ 👄 👁️ Im sorry but if DIGGLET, the pokemon with NO LIMBS, is good enough to SLASH things. Then a plant Pokemon is good enough to learn spore Hell a lot of "plant specific" moves have already been distributed to hell and back to both mushroom and straight up animal pokemon, so the inverse is very much within reason.
@@An_Entire_Lime The Diglett line's thing is that we don't KNOW what they have underneath the ground, they could very well have claws under there that help with digging. Gastly and Wooper having access to punches could have just be a way to get them punch-based egg moves since they later gain hands, even though egg moves work differently now. Either way, I don't think there's any real reason to break convention on Spore being a mushroom themed move. It's something all the mushroom Pokemon have in common besides the grass type, if Leavanny really needs a 100 acc sleep move, make it a new one.
For one to be viable tbf it'd take something outright unfair, if the goal wasn't early route bugs I could have probably made something work but I can only buff kricketune so much without getting unreasonable
@@oLivSamaNormal bug typing with two new abilities like maybe soundproof to reference Beethoven and maybe punk rock clone that buffs its sound moves? ( 1.5x buff.) And give it new moves and coverage with sparkling aria, boomburst and maybe agility or nasty plor.
Afaik its only Kricketune, Accelgor, and Spidops that are fully evolved bug types and Accelgor is the only one of the three with even a semblance of viability.
Im not a fan of the bug/flying bug/poison brigade as much as the next guy, but why PURE bug? Pure bug sucks! It is only slightly better than bug/flying, and only because bug and flying happen to have terrible synergy. Not to mention it's also very boring.
@@lasercraft32 And yet there are more than the number of fully evolved pure Flying types. …And the number of Flying types in GENERAL, as I learned recently.
really, I think the regular move version of G-Max Befuddle could just be “Befuddle” not like you can remove a part like they did with Clangorous Soulblaze when they turned it into a regular move I guess you could make a pun like “Bugfuddle” or “Butterfuddle”
@@ollytropics1735instead of priority it should make it do multi hit with every puch move, so it could do between 2 and 4 attacks, that way isnt doesnt need a big stats boost in attack, he could use Power up Punch to get a maximum of +4 attack every turn, or get is enemy confused with dizzy punch, used any of the elemental punches to get a status condition or getting a priority move that breaks focus items with bullet punch.
Honestly yeah Spidops has grown on me too, I like it’s concept and animations although I think it’s actual design could be tweaked/redone (and it’s stats obviously it’s stats too)
Yeah, it’s vaguely humanoid, but works well for its inspirations🤔 An ogre spider punching test dummy with a spool for a body~ Just min max its stats is what I think. Just maybe give it a little bit more bst, but then spec most of its offensive stats into its defences.
I seriously don’t get why they couldn’t have given it the same bst as Lokix, 46 more points in bulk (+23 in both defenses) would have done wonders for Spidops. Def: 92 -> 115. Sp Def: 86 -> 109.
How to buff Beedrill so i think i will buff is speed to 200 and is attack to 200, is still too weak so give him a new move "pouson lance" its just like calyrex s moves but poison type and it always badly poisons the target and it hits steel types and just the final touch give it Huge Power now Beedrill can be a niece wall breaker
I think your buffs are a bit unrealistic. You could maybe are +50-60 points to a sub 400 BST Pokémon and maybe +40 for a low 400 BST Pokémon. Bug Type in general needs buffed and as I think most people agree Bug Type should be Super Effective against Fairy Type and resist Fairy Type moves. I think Ledian should focus in boosting it's bulk, it has a massive SpD, getting it to midling Atk with Iron Fist would be plenty to boost it. Add Coaching, Upper Hand, etc for some utility and it should be a big buff. As for its abilities, I think Early Bird needs buffed to make Rest Instantaneous while keeping its normal benefit and Swarm should be changed to boost the Pokémon's Speed when on the field with an allied Bug Type Pokémon. This would be thematic and maybe encourage Tera Bug. I think some Bug Type moves need buffed, Skitter Smack should be a standard Priority Move, Bug Buzz needs a damage boost, Lunge should not make contact and X-Scissor should have increased Critical Hit Ratio. Signal Beam needs to come back.
Bug should be super effective against Fairy-Types? Hell no! I think Fairy should still resist Bug, but make the latter type resist the former. How many mystical creatures can you think of that prey on bugs, eat them, kill them and be outsmarted by? How many fairies can you think of that outsmarted bugs, eat them, kill them, destory them and enslaved them. Making Bug-Types super effective against Fairy-Types is overall extremely unrealistic in my opinion, and instead only resist each other. This makes the Bug and Fairy relationship more healthy and balanced. If you think Fairy should be weak to Bug, fine, I respect your opinion. It's still very unrealistic in my eyes.
I can't say much about the moves making sense, but Spore is a mushroom Pokemon move only (it's even called "Mushroom Spore" in Japan). About Kricketune, I'd give it the Normal-type. Is it really a buff? It would lose on the Fighting resistance, getting a Ghost immunity instead. The Normal-type would also underline its theme of sound, since it's a musician and most sound moves are Normal-type. A good chunk of them also hit both targets in double battles, so capitalising on it with STAB for neutral damage against most threats could find a cool niche. Technician would also be of great help for expanding some of these options. I know my more lore-accurate approach is kind of against the point here, but I thought my Kricketune idea is interesting enough to bring up.
I think the big struggle with giving it normal for sound is that there are no physical sound moves and Krickitune is a physical attacker. It makes sense thematically for them, but mechanically it clashes with what ol' DelelelewooOOP is built for stats wise.
Butterfree definitely should have gotten the Psychic typing too. It has a pretty decent amount of Psychic moves and that would help it differentiate it from Vivillon.
Only reason I don't think this'd work is because I'm pretty sure the Phantom of the Opera is known for playing the organ, while Kricketune and its line are clearly based on string instruments, due to crickets creating sound in a very similar way.
@@matthewlasalvia7026 not really? Like, it's a somewhat thin connection when, again, Kricketunes is based on string instruments specifically, down to the shape. There are probably other operas-adjacent novels that'd feature a string instrument more prominently they could center an evolution around first, before just jumping to a different instrument due to a more well-known story.
Would have given Kricketune the normal typing as well as punk rock as an ability. With boosted sp atc and maybe speed as well as util I think it would be much more unique
tbf, while making it more sound-based would be somewhat unique, most of the bug-types on this list already were special-attacking, leaning fast bug-types, so... that part wouldn't really have been unique at all.
@@Justic_ if that's the case I have a different idea. What if we changed it's typing to bug/normal but made it more bulky and really slow and then gave it an ability which boosts priority of sound based moves. Additionally with the addition of parting shot it would be a cool support Pokémon with priority sing and parting shot held back by it's typing in double battles and by sleep clause in smogon. It would be a unique and cool Pokémon. If you wanna spice it up you could also let the ability affect all sound based moves on the field (partner and opponents moves), which would leave to cool partner and opponent iterations.
@@kaitozoldyck152 honestly, I feel it wouldn't be too broken if you just straight up gave it Prankster completely. It'd add moves like Sticky Webs, Taunt, Encore and Batton Pass to the list, even if it'd have no additional effect on offensive sound-based move. Either way I'm pretty sure it'd have access to priority Perish Song as well which is pretty unique.
Ledian and Ariados need evolutions. A Bug Fighting even more superhero styled evo for Ledian. An ariados evo to look like a super sentai monster. Just for a bigger rivalry of design
I think Bug/Psychic would fit better for Ledian. The pokedex makes multiple reference to Ledian getting its power from the stars and that is definitely a Psychic type thing. Would also be cool to have Ledian (or a Ledian evo) be the physical counterpart to Orbeetle. Could even give it a new signature move that is a Psychic punch to capitalize on Iron Fist (alongside assumedly a huge buff to its Atk). Could call the move star powered punch or cosmic punch or something similar.
5:20 New move. 120 bp bug special. Scale storm 20% chance to sleep, poison or paralyze For a new physical move. 120 bp Bug Pummel Bug The user rapidly swings its many arms erratically to smack the enemy. Lowers both user and enemies defense stats.
Don’t really agree with just giving each of these bugs an insane stat boost (+100) as if they got megas. They’re supposed to be 1st or 2nd route pokes for a reason.
The bugs i gave stat boosts to are still even at the 490 total below: 2 regional birds (also tying Kilowattrel) 3 regional bugs Luxray (no particular class but very early route mon with 523 BST) Stoutland Ties Dubwool I'm sure there's others i missed asw this is purely going off the early route tab on bulbapedia I pulled the bugs list from, figured it's the most fair comparison. 490 isn't really too egregious especially if the goals to make them actually compete with other fully evolved mons
Agreed, it isn't really a realistic change, at most we have seen Game Freak give a Pokémon +40 to their BST (Masqerain). It would be reasonable to give +50-60 to a sub 400 BST Bug Type but +100 is too far. Buffing or Changing Abilities are reasonable as are making move pool updates and those could make them viable without needing +100 to BST. We have seen teams use Venonat or Eviolite Slowpoke so clearly stats aren't everything.
@@oLivSama490 bug types are too high. They are meant to be early choices (minus Orbeetle, Vikavolt and Leavanny who were meant to be outliers.) They have high bsts but they are balanced. Most of the mons in this video would just be unbalanced. (Leavanny is not a mushroom so no Spore)
I agree. I know it’s a theoretical video but it’s definitely more reasonable to just give some mons a stat rearrangement and maybe something more like a 20 stat bonus
I wish they made bug strong against fairy because it could’ve brought back the concept of bug types being weak but good against the one op type since psychic types aren’t as op anymore. Like come on dude bug is my favorite type and leavanny is my favorite Pokémon of all time and they get treated like this 😭
In Honor of G-Max Butterfree's Signature Move I say call it Bewilder! It means practically the same thing as Befuddle (to make someone Puzzled and Confused), sounds like the name of a Special Attack, and even starts with the same syllable while having those D & L sounds near the end
Really the buffs suggested for the 2 stage bugs would most realistically manifest as new evolutions, if they decided to go ahead and do that for them. That said, I feel like Ground makes no real sense on Kricketune. If I were to buff it via an evo, as that's the most likely option, I'd lean more into Special Attack as a Bug/Psychic type instead, giving it a renamed Punk Rock and letting it use moves like Bug Buzz, Psychic Noise, Boomburst, and whatever other sound moves would work well thematically.
Psychic could definitely be cool but offensively it's a pretty underwhelming STAB to partner, though I'll admit Bug at least similarly to Ground has actual offensive merit to help a Psychic type coverage wise. It could work for sure and if it was some concept like this I could see it actually being interesting at least, just wanted to try and change as little of the original intent as possible and leaning into a ground type was easier to do so with as it kept more of the original competitive identity keeping technician. Also it's a type combo we don't have much of and figured it'd be a cool way to introduce it to the scene, albeit the type definitely fits more as a concept for the tools it has rather than kricketune itself.
For Ledian, I would give it a 100-point bst boost with its new stats being 95HP, 55 attack, 80 defence, 55 SpA, 110 SpD, 105 speed. Giving it the fighting type as a bug fighting type. Then for abilities trade out early bird for insomnia, replace iron fist for huge power as its hidden ability and replace swarm with a bug type version of pixelate so the normal type moves it learns becomes bug type with a buff and stab.
Huge Power is such a boring way to buff a Pokémon though. Like yeah it is technically a buff but this feels less like buffing Ledian and more just making another slightly better Heracross
@@browserjunior4707 Yeah, but it's really hard to make it feel unique in a game with over 1000 mons while keeping the kamen Rider theme without making more original abilities. And I didn't want to make a new ability that we didn't have a equivalent already in game like the bug type pixelate was.
Perfect timing. I was just talking about krickitune and how he would be a beast with the slash ability and all the slashing moves like leaf blade etc. Beedrill give it the mega by using a metal coat trade or ancient power to evolve directly into it. Butterfree more psychic moves and higher special damage Dwebble should have been a starting bug with two EVOS and it was perfect as one too. So op.
I want Ariados to get an offensive move that throws out Toxic Spikes the same way Ceaseless Edge throws out Spikes. In fact, basically any moth Pokémon should have a move like that since their lore often describes toxic scales blowing off their wings.
I would buff Early Bird to always wake up the turn after or one turn after using Rest, to make it a niche option compared to Insomnia and Vital Spirit.
I once saw a theorymon suggestion to give ledian an ability to hit four times, one for each of its arms, and still with a 35 base attack it suddenly became broken I suggest just calling the butterfree move Befuddle
Unless you're gonna go through the effort of EV training most games have gyms that are anti bug types and you'd maybe at most kill 1 mon now with kricketune because it'd by level up have no moves able to properly handle rock types, and even the games that aren't its defenses still aren't very strong and it's level up movepools always been bad as most of the good moves are mid game TMs or tutors
@@oLivSama nah this is cope. It would be broken especially with technician fury cutter early on and an additional ground typing like you said. It would be neutral to rock in this case and would only really get screwed over by falker and its not even catchable in any johto game. + many of the games like xy, swsh, bw1/2 and sv all have gym leaders early game that arent anti bug at all. This comment makes very little sense overall.
Interestingly enough, there are plants that use spores instead of pollen, like ferns! Though it definitely is something that is more associated with fungi
@@ethanralstin6675 the japanese name of the move (as well as at least the german localization of it) explicitly call the move MUSHROOM Spore though, so it's quite clear that even a fern-Pokemon most likely wouldn't be given this move.
A name I could think of for Butterfree's new signature move would be Silvery Dust. Silver Wind is a bug move that forcefully blasts a wind full of harmful moth dust at the enemy but this move would be like a light powdering on the enemy that guarantees they'll breathe it in.
Bug being super effective to Dark and Psychic is its biggest strength. Balances out alot of OP mons. Definitely needs a Buff though. Higher Stats for the Buf type Mons would do Justice.
Shout out to Merciless as an alternative ability to Ariados: decrease it's attack, but make it able to auto crit against poisoned targets after using its signature move. Something something lore reason that Pineco evolve into Forretress to become immune to the Ariados that normally prey on it? 🤔
The idea I always had for Beautifly, also to set it apart from Butterfree and Vivillon, was to give it the ability solar power. Butterflies need the warmth of the sun to fly, so it makes sense thematic wise, it already learns Morning Sun and can keep itself healthy with Gigadrain, which it also naturally learns. With a base 110 special attack doubled in sun it would actually hit decently hard. Then give it additional move pool options like Weather Ball and Mystical Fire and rage powder for utility. It's still slow, so it would need some additional points in speed to be usable (or actually less points to be an option in trick room sun) and you'd have an interedting sun mon. Probably still not a go-to mon for sun teams, but at least a nieche for Beautifly, something it currently doesn't have.
I've always thought Ledian needs an ability similar to Iron Fist but causes Punch type moves to deal double damage but from Sp Atk. It also needs a STAB punch to work with
No, it would be so much better if Fairy and Bug-Types resist each other. Because some mystical creatures cause harm to bugs, including some species of fairies. And some others are vulnerable against them, mainly smaller fairies and pixies. I say we should keep the Fairy-Type more balanced by making them super effective against Ghost-Types (like they should have been for a long time), resist and get resisted by Poison instead of being weak to it, be immune to and also liable against Grass-Types and make Fairy-Types resist and get resisted by Bug and Ice-Types (for the latter mainly because in numerous fantasy stories and media, strong magical powers coming from mystical creatures can actually destory enteral winters). Like still make them one of the most powerful types, but also keep them balanced and not too OP (with execptions like Mega Diancie that needs a HP buff ASAP and Zacian).
@beckhampang191 And more types it gets resisted by. Poison is a complicated type and is based on different toxins. Some toxins and many vemons and poisons can be cured by magical creatures and fairies (ie, one true love's kiss breaking various poisonous spells in various fairytales). Radioactive and nuclear poisons though will easily kill off a mystical creature if they make contact with them. That's why I made it that Fairy now resists and gets resisted by Poison-Types in my headcanon instead of being weak to it. Poison instead gets to be super effective against the Water, Normal, Grass and Fighting-Types. The only other type I made Fairy super effective against is Ghost and that's it. They're now only weak to Steel-Types (speaking of Steel, I think they deserve to be nerfed more than Fairy, especially how dominant they're in Generation 9 and the Steel-Type being the best Tera type; also, Fairy-Type Tera isn't as good as the Steel-Type Tera). Not only I gave Fairy an immunity to Grass-Types, but also a liability against the same type because most mystical creatures and fairies live in forests and often don't want to harm the forests they live in. Fairy gets resisted by and resists 3 types at the same time in my headcanon, being Bug (mainly because even though the smaller fairies and pixies would actually get preyed on by bugs, a lot of fairies are human-size or shapeshifters and can outsmart bugs. Also, some mystical creatures would kill and even eat bugs, plus some enslave bugs), Ice (mainly because although half of the mystical creatures and fairies in the world get frozen and can't adapt to harsh colds, in multiple fantasy stories, media and literature, strong enough magic can actually stop enteral winters for good and turn the weather and seasons back to normal, and some magic and mystical creatures and fairies would just melt or crush ice) and Poison-Types (which I mentioned earlier). Otherwise, the other resistances and types that Fairy gets resisted by are still the same, and they're still super effective against Dragon, Dark and Fighting.
As far as names for Butterfree signature special attacks go, I came up with a few. All come with the 50% chance for status: 'Fluttershot', stylized as a sort of scatter-shot of butterfly/moth scales. 85 power, 100 Accuracy, 15 pp. Simple, effective, scary. 'Butter Bomb', a ball attack that has a glob of honey mixed with various insect venoms. 65 power, 100 accuracy, 20 pp. Blocked by Bulletproof, and doubles power on statused mons. Literally bug/special Dire Claw, with a solid immune counter to balance it, since it loses that steel counter. 'Sweet Powder', an offensive powder move that would bypass the Grass immunity, but not the goggles immunity. 100 power, 80 accuracy (to be most accurate w/ compound eyes), 5 pp. This would give Butterfree some staggering potential as a Compound Eyes mon, while giving it a meaningful drawback in exchange for the raw power it would have if it opted for Tinted Lens instead. I like this one a lot when paired with your idea to give it Focus Blast! This set would essentially become a baby Volcarona, and I'd argue this version especially doesn't even need the stat boost to become at least slightly viable in UU.
I have a new move idea for Ariados, which is really strong but balance by the fact that it's only available to Ariados. I want to have its spider theme come into play, and how it can retreat using its own web. A move that makes Ariados enter into a semi invulnerable state like fly (being able to be hit by the same moves as fly), and then switch out at the end of the turn. Ariados is really slow and frail, so I think the move is balanced out by that.
The Pokémon Fan game Pokémon Spectrum has the perfect take for the much needed buffs for the Ledian and Ariados lines. Give them and their Pre Evolutions Regional varients and then new third stage evolutions that make the new evolution for Ledian line a Bug Fighting Type with new signature Ability and massive Base stat total increase and a good new Signature STAB move and make the new evolution for the Ariados line a Poison and Dark Type a new Signature Ability and a good signature STAB move. In the case of an Evolution for Ledian, an Ability that acts as Tough Claws combined with Flying Type Stab. Or doubling the power of Contact move plus Levitate. For the evolution of Ariados, an Ability that acts as Intimidate but lowering Special Attack instead of Physical combined with Shadow Tag. Or just summoning Spider Web in addition to immediately poisoning the opponent upon being hit with a damaging move. Alternatively you could just give them Levitate or Huge Power and Shadow Tag or Corrosion respectively, that'd all work too. These Pokémon just need something big and it has to be a drastic overhaul of an upgrade, it has to be more then just a miracle at this point honestly. And they deserve it the most since they've gone the longest time without receiving any kinda substantial buff that's actually made a difference since they were introduced as already weak Pokémon. And like with the Fan game Spectrum, I love that idea of going all in with a Superhero and Supervillain design and dynamic between these two and acting as one of the only instances of Pokémon that are evenly Natural Enemies. And it would be the first time we'd seen this since Durant and Heatmor. And it would be the first time we'd have seen it with two Bug Types exclusively. Before anyone asks, no Shelmet and Karablast evolving into Accelgor and Escavalier when trade only with each other DOES NOT COUNT! That is it's own (if you'll pardon the term) completely separate can of worms. Now as for Leavanny, leaning into it's role as a caretaker and a support Pokémon while still being able to deal potential massive damage and _fast_ it should get a signature move that acts a combination of Swords Dance and Refresh for itself and an Ally Pokémon. If it's Ally is also a Bug Type, it heals it by a third of it's health in exchange for not sharply boosting it's own Attack in addition to healing status conditions and sharply raising it's Ally's Attack.
Since Butterfree is well known for using poison powder and sleep powder, I think that it’s signature move that you mentioned could be called “strange powder” or even “mysterious powder”
i think its really hard to discuss bug type buffs without adressing a bunch of type table bs (namely, buffing grass, bug, poison, ice, rock in traits and type matchups while nerfing fairy and letting poison acid moves do x2 against steel). because of that, i wasnt too excited by many of the buffs besides vikavolts new moves. Beautifly and Dustox's changed typing makes sense however. assuming Dustox powered up form requires an item or location to unlock (way to increase stats mid or endgame) which would still allow it to not be super busted earlygame. Dustox (Bug, Dark) Ability: Merciless or Shield Dust, Compound Eyes (the same but with more low acc options) HA: Toxic Debris new moves: Dark Void, Ruination, Snatch, Parting Shot, some variant of Obstruct (obstagoon move) perhaps since dustox one of few mons to learn Protect by level up- maybe lowering spedef of target and raising Dustox's attack. Add on Night Daze, Power Trip and Punishment. Maybe add some stuff like focus blast or stun spore (but NOT sleep spore since 2 other early bugs already have that) all this may seem like alot, and Dustox is just early regional bug so why get signature moves and stuff some may ask. well ever since gen 5 onwards, regional bugs can actually be pretty potent. Therefore, just add special forms later on in game to add some flair while still being somewhat mundane. Crecellia + Darkrai event to explain the new and better Beautifly Dustox forms would work quite well, with beautifly getting some crecellia inspirations and stuff like Dazzling/Queenly Majesty/ Armour Tail instead i suppose, to make up for wierder stat spread of only somewhat defensive slow potentcy of status and offensive beautifly moves. Anyways back to Dustox, due to getting helped in bulk but only mininal gain to its very weak offenses, Dustox will mostly play a disrupting role but could go for Quiver Dance and new protect move boosts as well to go moreso on offensive if ability not toxic debris- has Power Trip and mixed offenses movepool so add to that by doing less accurate moves with stronger side effects. Dark Void for doubles, New Form loosely reminiscent of paradox forms but just discrete such as now taking on a crescent moon wing appearence like mega and paradox salamance. Dusk --> Dustox Dark type Disruptor inspired by Darkrai and Crecellia --> Dark Void, other more niche moves like that Zoroark signiature move
Honestly I think you're to a degree sleeping on how powerful some of these would be, like a Bug and Ground STAB on Kricketune with a strong speed and attack stat hits a lot, since the bug typing offensively offers a lot of synergy for ground checks. Or like beedrill getting new priority and having near its megas stats while also gaining an item slot is a big deal. Bug type chart could use some looking into you're totally right, but I do think at least half of these if they existed right now could see legitimate play even in just a regulation F style format where it's not just lower power level types of mons. This Dustox still has a lot of merit vs the Whims tailwind + encore teams that ran next to bloodmoon, the Orbeetle would actually be a huge Trick Room contender with Redirection + Trick Room being genuinely terrifying, and Vikavolt would be a really cool ursaluna check with Tera, especially now that it'd have coverage for Torkoal which is it's worst matchup (unironically it's the only viable Tera Rock mon since Reg Cs niche Flutter Mane use for sun mirrors since it'd now have viable coverage for Torkoal and it'd check the ursalunas well that way).
@@oLivSama ok but i mean moreso that its hard to coordinate a reasonable buff without first accounting for major reworks. This video went moreso the stats approach, but i think that should be done only after looking at other balancing options if that makes sense. Its lesso that the buffs wouldnt work and moreso that id prefer stuff that made bug types overall more sustainable. if i were to apply this to rock type pokemon for example, i would make more rock type moves, such as a spattk move that has decent damage and has its speed debuff chance guaranteed if a previous move missed or something (85bp spattk 90acc, -2spd to target and guaranteed hit chance if previous move missed. give only to very specific celestial mons like mineor, solrock, lunatone, etc.). imo, rocks weakness to ground is also unneccessary (removing that, ground still has 4 super effectivenesses which is alot) then id give lunatone like psychic terrain setting ability or whatever ontop of the established buffs. Just some video creation critique i suppose, especially because much higher stats would need to be accounted for in regular gameplay as well. Like i love bug and rock types thematically, but i think increased stats is the least creative option, and then other less good mons also have to deal with the additional powercreep. Id look moreso into specific moves to give say Beautifly that the other way more viable butterfly mons wouldnt neseccarily recieve such as lunar blessing, moonblast, healing wish and ally switch. Oh and draining kiss of course. Signiature Ability-Proboscis: Draining moves bypass type resistances and also ignore target's stat increases. recieve 1.5 stab bonus if not already stab. Rivalry, HA: Triage
I like the idea of Dustox being Bug/Dark with Toxic Debris to demonstrate it's lost Poison typing similar to Glimmora getting some Grass Moves since it looks like a flower. I definitely see it acting as a bulky disruptor, Beautifly maybe doesn't need a type change so it is just another Ribombee, but adding some Fairy Type moves could be great for it, maybe with some added utility/support moves.
Personally I think Mat Block is the wrong direction for Silk Trap, it should become like Baneful Bunker & Spiky Shield where it becomes a perfect protection Just for the User and gives a detrimental effect...
I have a video suggestion. I played online battles in SV when the game first came out, but stopped after flutter mane. Every since then, ive been quite unsure of what the current Regulation H Meta is, so if you could make a video talking about, maybe "Top 10 Most Threatening VGC Pokemon" or something like that, i would be interested in watching that.
For me the biggest issue with a lot of the early regional bugs isn’t the fact their low base stats hinder them, it’s the fact a lot have very mediocre abilities to utilize. Butterfree, Dustox, Mothim, Scolipede, Leavanny, Vivillon, Vikavolt, and Lokix are the only ones that have decent abilities that they can still see usage. Every other Pokémon not listed has incredibly niche usage or just bad abilities. Ariados imo doesn’t need 130 Attack, I feel personally that Ariados is meant to be disruptor Pokémon with a lot moves that annoy and provide support effects. This is supported by its signature move Toxic Thread, so I think buffing its HP/SpDef from 70 to 85, its Def to 80, and its Atk to 95. Currently there’s tons of deadly fighting types running around and Ariados has an amazing typing to handle their usual coverage so I feel giving it a +10 Def buff rather than 15 is fair enough. Now I know I said stats don’t really matter but my proposition for an ability change requires somewhat bulky stats to make work. I personally think replacing Sniper from Ariados with Oblivious is much better as it prevents taunt, which allows it to click moves like Rage Powder, String Shot, Toxic, Disable, and Sticky Web for free. I also don’t necessarily agree on Lokix’s buff. +15 Speed is absolutely massive and you’ve already broken the point of not buffing it too much. +15 speeds makes it faster than Garchomp and the Lati twins. A Pokémon with base 102 Attack and Tinted Lens with base 117 speed is way too good offensively, especially with a type combo like Bug/Dark. For reference now that you are 117 Speed, you are now currently the 5th fastest non legendary/mega Dark type in the franchise with arguably the best ability for a dark type in tinted lens. There are currently 3 types that resist dark and its fighting, dark, and fairy, and the only 4x resists that exist are type combos involving these three types, 2 of which are neutral to bug. This means that Iron Valiant is the only hard wall to Lokix, everyone else is going to be chipped for massive damage, especially so now that Choice Band is the go-to item since your speed is so high you can effectively run adamant now. The only other fast non-mega/legendary dark type options are Meowscarada, Greninja, Roaring Moon, and Weavile. Meow and Greninja while good suffer from their predictability due to the Protean nerf, and while Moon and Weavile are absolute monsters, they struggle a lot against bulky fairy types with good defensive stats. Lokix can ignore both of these limitations as it has a spammable knock off, priority, and pivoting options in U-Turn. If you wanted to have a more tame buff for Lokix, +5 in both defenses and access to Stomping Tantrum is more than enough for it.
for me lokix needs the buffs you said PLUS access to upper hand. i really feel like it would make it more fun to use considering how important priority moves are. with the speed buff it would make upper hand more relevant
Yes, or even a signature move where it heals every Pokemon's health when all are at the same party as the Leavanny. Bonus points if the Pokemon is not fully evolved or are still young and not adults yet. And if Eevee is at the same party as the Leavanny or even on the same battle as one, it gives Eevee a quicker chance to evolve onto either Espeon, Umbreon, Sylveon, a Bug-Type Eeveevoultion when it comes out and a Normal-Type Eeveevoultion which is overdue.
Most people say to make Kricketune part Normal, but I disagree. Honestly, pure Bug or Bug/Dark (given its nocturnal nature and access to various Dark type moves like Taunt and Night Slash) works way better. But I wonder if just making him an offensive mon would be the way to go. Infestation + Perish Song means it can Perish Trap by itself in two turns without the need of a Shadow Tag mon. Adding the Dark type could also be really useful to make it immune to Prankster Taunt, which would give it a really good niche on its own. So my play would be to have two visions. Either a glass cannon pure Bug that gets Sharpness, or a bulkier Bug/Dark type that can use its pretty good support kit like Sticky Web, Taunt, Perish Song, etc. while being unable to be stopped.
Personally, I feel like just making Beedrills stats Mega-Beedrills is perhaps a bit too... overbearing? It's MEGA-Beedrill for a reason, while Beedrill does deserve a buff I feel that's probably a bit too extreme. In that sense, I'd paddle back just a bit, lower Beedrills speed to a still respectable 120 or 130, and putting what was taken there as well as whatever is needed from its attack-stat to let it keep Beedrills original special attack, to not be too minmaxed, but it would still be plenty threatening that way. That way Mega-Beedrill, which will probably return with Legends Z-A and following games, will also still have something to build on, also being able to put the extra stats it'll now have left over into its lackluster defenses. As for Ledian, usually I'd be more hesitant to raise its stats like this, but under this premise, I feel, while unrealistic, bringing up its attack that much is fine, although personally I'd still more lean towards putting its attack around 85 and putting the rest into defense, to keep with its current spirit of being more of a team player, not to mention giving it a support-role would fit with its counterpart Ariados having more of a debuffer-role. Thanks to Iron Fist it'd still deal decent damage, although I'd also suggest the possibility of giving it a new bug-type signature punching-move that'd hit multiple times, basically Comet Punch but bug-type and perhaps a bit stronger. Although on that end, in order as to not overlap with Heracross too much, since Mega-Heracross is noteably also a Skill Link attacker, I'd say it'd be fine for Ledian to stay a bug/flying-type. Personally not a big fan of giving Ariados Corrosion, it'd be good competetively, sure, but I feel it just doesn't fit lorewise imo, so it'd be better to search for other options first, perhaps even something original. Like, it's a spider, logically I think Ariados should have an immunity to Sticky Web and other web-based moves. You could spin this two way: Either give it Clear Body to protect it stat-changes in general, or a new ability that'd function like Heavy-Duty Boots and make it immune to hazards. As for Beautifly, I honestly really like the buffs, at the same time though, since Beautifly is just that vanilla, I feel a good way to differentiate it from Butterfree, Vivillon and Ribombee would be to make it a bulky special attacker instead. Take from its weirdly high attack-stat, put most into defenses, put just a bit into special attack as well. Thanks to Quiver Dance, if its speed isn't lowered it could still probably be a viable setup-sweeper. Only downside is that this would make it quite similar to Dustox, although you could argue that them evolving from the same Pokemon this would also fit. On the topic of Dustox, I'd just say that I also feel making it a psychic-type would be a viable option, it feels slightly more justified than Butterfree, especially if we're changing its type anyways. Also I don't think there's a Rage Powder-user with Prankster so far, same with Spotlight, but those already have priority anyways so... I feel like Kricketunes buffs... don't really fit with Kricketune? Like, how does the ground-type make sense for it? Yeah, bug/ground is a decent typing only present in Nincada so far, but Kricketune is a violin-shaped/inspired cricket, that doesn't really make sense with the ground-type. If anything, I could see it as a dark-type, even if it's just because it learns Night Slash naturally, or even as our first bug/normal-type, since the normal-type is usually associated with a lot of sound-based moves as well. In addition, I'm fine with making it faster, but does it really look THAT fast? Personally, I'd probably rather go with making it more bulky, maybe also giving it the option of Prankster, especially when making it a dark-type, which would give it access to priority Sing, Taunt, Sticky Webs, Baton Pass and perhaps most interestingly Perish Song. I feel that kind of playstyle would mesh with Kricketunes identity way more. I'd say Leavanny has at least the _option_ of taking a bit from its special attack to put into its speed or attack-stat instead, probably preferring its speed. That way it could also function outside of the sun with Chlorophyl, and perhaps replacing Swarm, you could give it Sharpness alongside access to a few more blade-type moves like Night Slash or Solar Blade. For Orbeetle, I'd put on the table that just like Butterfree got a signature move based on its GMAX-move, so should Orbeetle. Especially since Orbeetles GMAX-move set up gravity, while Orbeetle usually doesn't even have access to the move Gravity. This could also give it interesting support-potential, since Gravity wouldn't just ground flying Pokemon, but also increase the accuracy of moves which can be very beneficial. I'd have suggested Spidops be a bug/dark-type instead, if this generation didn't already have Lokix as well, since Spidops seems based on something like a spy or a spec-ops agent. In that sense, fighting-type fits decently enough as well, otherwise I'd say ground-type makes more sense for it than Kricketune, but it'd need the ground-type stab to go along as well. For Lokix, I'm not sure it really needs a buff at all, since even with its stats being below the cap of 490, I remember it performing quite well, at least in Singles.
*Taps the sign* Vikavolt needs to be a faster pokemon either with a higher speed stat or the hidden ability speed boost, as it being slower than a regirock is completely unfitting
I feel like these buffs are good but they are band aids for the real issue. I would lower the majority of these pokemon's total stats back down to 450 (keeping most of the distribution changes about the same), but give bug type as a whole an immunity to dark. Dark type is one of the best types in the game, and currently has no immunity. Bug would make perfect since to be immune to dark as bugs live in darkness and often prefer it.
Cool video but you should show the stats and stat transitions on screen more (Abilities and other stuff too). It's really hard to keep up with what you're saying based on just sound alone, and it's not optimal to have a separate tab with each Pokemon's stats or other "obscure" information so it's easier to understand. TDLR be more visual and showing. I'd recommend you to look up WolfeyVGC's videos, as his editing and visuals are very well placed and make his videos easy to keep up with.
They should give ledian a fighting/bug evolution. It's based on superheros. AND IN JAPAN. MOST SUPERHEROS ARE BUG BASED HELL. IT'S AN ALIEN. PSYCHIC/BUG ALSO FITS. ANYTHING BESIDES BUG/FLYING
Ledian should swap attack stats the special defense should be debuffed and put into speed. And it should get a new abulity which adds priority to punching moves
Bug type should resist ghost since bugs (considered good in japan) ward off evil, hence its advantage against dark, should also apply to evil spirits. They should resist fairy since the guardians of nature won't do much against a keystone group of animals in nature, Fairy should be neutral to Bug attacks too since balancing for fairy. Also ground should be weak to Bug since many bugs burrow.
Hear me out: make kricketune bug/normal with a clone of Toxtricity's punk rock ability, and then give it as many sound-based moves as humanly possible.
These bugs needed more good bug dual types. Ledian fighting bug. Beedrill mega rock bug Butterfree psychic bug. Aridos more set up moves and speed glass cannon. Hoenne bug duo needs better moves and types. Big poison and bug fairy would be better. Kiricitune steel bug. Levanny anything but grass type. I can see it work with fighting or just be a base bug instead.
Nah, give Leavanny a chance to Mega evolve and give it a trio Bug/Grass/Steel-Type or Bug/Grass/Fairy (not sure which one is better). Also, Leavanny could use a signature move and potentially a signature ability that heals the Pokemon in your and your allies team, bonus points for Eevee to evolve into one of the friendship Eeveevoultions, a Bug-Type or Normal-Type Eeveevoultions and for Pokemon in those teams that are not fully evolved. And give it a bit more speed and special attack. Plus, some decent new moves to help it out a bit (one of those is not Spore).
kricketune should be bug/normal. sound moves are normal type. stab boomburst and bug resisting fighting and normal giving a ghost immunity. all sound very nice. wish they'd give it a unique ability for sound moves. damage dealt with sound moves heals you/using a sound move heals you and allies for 25% of your max health.
Butterfree with 105 speed would be busted. Fastest spore in the game by a mile( I know it does not get spore but compound eyes plus sleep powder is pretty much the same)
Lokix is easy to buff, just give him a toy to stick in his belt and he'll get some random overpowered ability like killing god with an orange, like the Kamen Rider he is
“Dont want to make beautifly a worse version of Vivian” then don’t….. make it a mixed attacker give to both competitive and defiant boost its attack sp attack and speed up to 110
Wow, amazing video, Liv! I hope that Scolipede gets more attention, it is a really good bug type, especially when you get speed boost going and at least one swords dance up. Great video, keep going, Liv! (Edit: please make shorts with Sabrina Carpenter’s old songs like ‘Skin’, ‘Sue me’, ‘I’m Fakin etc.)
I find it so funny that despite being a shitmon in vgc, lokix is like a top mon in Smogon UU and is more viable than former ou staples like latios, tyranitar and toxapex
Oops when I rerecorded I must have forgot to read over that line, it's so good it doesn't need any and if it was in SV it would have 1000% seen play as a fast Flutter Mane check for certain at least in some sense. Plus its stats aren't really able to be buffed and it's movepools really good anyway
Nothing for Wormadam/Mothim? That's another early game bug mon in Sinnoh that you can get before the 2nd gym. Maybe a little less room to work with as they both are at 424 bst, and youre boosting these guys to 490 bst, but still early game bug. Cool video nonetheless.
Wormadam/Mothim are actually not considered Route 1 bugs shockingly enough, same vein as like Combee which you can also get through honey trees before gym 2! It's definitely a bad bug for sure but with how many bugs need buffs anyway I kept it to strictly those in that Route 1 classification according to Bulbapedia
I wouldn’t give Leavanny spore… it breaks the conversations and rules of the move. Spore is strictly for mushrooms… instead you could give it a signature move that has a 95-100% chance to put the target to sleep… call it Lullaby or something and lean into to Nanny aspect of Leavanny
Or they could buff the accuracy of Grass Whistle because 6 evolution lines can learn it from level up and 12 evolution lines can learn it from breeding
And if the accuracy buff is too much then the number of Pokemon that can learn it could be reduced (like how the number of Pokemon that could learn Toxic or Scald was reduced)
Yeah, even one where it heals all of the Pokemon in your team and your ally's Pokemon team, especially the Fairy-Types. Also, gives Eevee a quicker chance to evolve into either a Bug-Type Eeveevoultion when we get one, Espeon, Umbreon, Sylveon or a potential Normal-Type Eeveevoultion which I call Eeveeon, if fought alongside with the Leavanny or if the Eevee is in your current party at the time. Bonus points if the Pokemon is not fully evolved or is very young regardless of the stage of evolution it's at. Would a signature ability where it heals Pokemon's HP work?
that's even better than spore if it's not a powder based move
Also the sheer speed of Chlorophyll Leavanny is too high for near-guaranteed Sleep. Grass types ignore Rage Powder so it’s difficult to redirect.
@@tomwantshelpMaybe a new ability that makes sound based moves guaranteed hits. Then add in some new physical sound moves.
They should have never made Fairy resist bug… infact they should have made bug be super effective against it (because bugs eat nature and fairy’s are tied to nature) and either resist or full blown immune to fairy!!! And the Lore reason being that “fairy magic doesn’t effect bugs because they have a different brain and or soul than most creatures!!! It never made sense to nerf even further the weakest Pokémon in the game which didn’t even really buff the fairy type by making it resist it
Yea fairy really did bug dirty for 0 reason
yeah, and changing poison to instead beat water would make enough sense
@@inevitablecrit4869 As an avid Water type Pokémon lover, no, let Poison deal SE to Water *as well* as Fairy.
Not all fairy lore is tied to nature and not to mention fairytales includes Unicorns, and other mystical beast that can easy squash bugs
@@senorjecansu1093 poison bug overlap tricky, dont want poison to just be better bug, so if poison remains fairy answer, bug must resist it and maybe resist poison back, along with getting bonus inherent terrain effects for the 4 terrains
kricketune should be a Bug/Normal with access to Boomburst, it's a sound pokemon after all!
A fast mixed attacker with awful HP and defensive stats.
The same goes for Spidops. Should've been a Bug/Normal type.
@@YangTheAce this, even if Spidops is so bad at least with this typing they wouldn't be too forgetable..
@@peekopyro1840 Or give it another
evolution. Like Gamefreak should've
done with Scovillain and Galvantula.
right and name 5 pokemon who got buffed with the normal type
Spore's Japanese name is Mushroom Spore so unless you're a mushroom Pokémon, you'd never get that move lol
Black/White Kyurem cannot learn Ice Punch despite having giant arms and Iron Valiant can learn Skill Swap despite it always failing due to Quark Drive not being swappable, I don't think Game Freak would care too much if something like Leavanny learns Spore
"ice punch has punch in it so unless you have hands, you'd never get that move lol"
The Gastly and Wooper in question:
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Im sorry but if DIGGLET, the pokemon with NO LIMBS, is good enough to SLASH things.
Then a plant Pokemon is good enough to learn spore
Hell a lot of "plant specific" moves have already been distributed to hell and back to both mushroom and straight up animal pokemon, so the inverse is very much within reason.
Gamefreak has kept spore fungi only for two decades. They definitely care.@@coltonandjen
@@An_Entire_Lime The Diglett line's thing is that we don't KNOW what they have underneath the ground, they could very well have claws under there that help with digging. Gastly and Wooper having access to punches could have just be a way to get them punch-based egg moves since they later gain hands, even though egg moves work differently now.
Either way, I don't think there's any real reason to break convention on Spore being a mushroom themed move. It's something all the mushroom Pokemon have in common besides the grass type, if Leavanny really needs a 100 acc sleep move, make it a new one.
In german it's "Pilzspore", what means Mushroom Spore😅
Its kinda lame that there are so few fully evolved pure Bug type Pokemon... They're almost always dual type (usually flying or poison).
For one to be viable tbf it'd take something outright unfair, if the goal wasn't early route bugs I could have probably made something work but I can only buff kricketune so much without getting unreasonable
@@oLivSamaNormal bug typing with two new abilities like maybe soundproof to reference Beethoven and maybe punk rock clone that buffs its sound moves?
( 1.5x buff.)
And give it new moves and coverage with sparkling aria, boomburst and maybe agility or nasty plor.
Afaik its only Kricketune, Accelgor, and Spidops that are fully evolved bug types and Accelgor is the only one of the three with even a semblance of viability.
Im not a fan of the bug/flying bug/poison brigade as much as the next guy, but why PURE bug?
Pure bug sucks! It is only slightly better than bug/flying, and only because bug and flying happen to have terrible synergy.
Not to mention it's also very boring.
@@lasercraft32 And yet there are more than the number of fully evolved pure Flying types. …And the number of Flying types in GENERAL, as I learned recently.
16:02 Ah, earth power. My favorite rock type move
really, I think the regular move version of G-Max Befuddle could just be “Befuddle”
not like you can remove a part like they did with Clangorous Soulblaze when they turned it into a regular move
I guess you could make a pun like “Bugfuddle” or “Butterfuddle”
Beefuddle
@@mysticfrace568B-bu its not a bee 🤓
Freefuddle?
I think giving Ledian Scrappy would be cooler than Insomnia.
New ability which gives all punching moves priority
@@ollytropics1735instead of priority it should make it do multi hit with every puch move, so it could do between 2 and 4 attacks, that way isnt doesnt need a big stats boost in attack, he could use Power up Punch to get a maximum of +4 attack every turn, or get is enemy confused with dizzy punch, used any of the elemental punches to get a status condition or getting a priority move that breaks focus items with bullet punch.
Spidops: Just give it an evo, like actually this mon is unironically grown on me and I hate that it has a lower bst than fucking chargabug
There's no way 😭 and I know charjabug is better competitively too cuz of its ability 😔
Then again, charjabug is a cool fucking Pokemon
Honestly yeah Spidops has grown on me too, I like it’s concept and animations although I think it’s actual design could be tweaked/redone (and it’s stats obviously it’s stats too)
Yeah, it’s vaguely humanoid, but works well for its inspirations🤔
An ogre spider punching test dummy with a spool for a body~
Just min max its stats is what I think. Just maybe give it a little bit more bst, but then spec most of its offensive stats into its defences.
I seriously don’t get why they couldn’t have given it the same bst as Lokix, 46 more points in bulk (+23 in both defenses) would have done wonders for Spidops. Def: 92 -> 115. Sp Def: 86 -> 109.
How to buff Beedrill so i think i will buff is speed to 200 and is attack to 200, is still too weak so give him a new move "pouson lance" its just like calyrex s moves but poison type and it always badly poisons the target and it hits steel types and just the final touch give it Huge Power now Beedrill can be a niece wall breaker
AND make it a steel poison type
I like “Powder Bomb” for Butterfree’s new signature move
I think your buffs are a bit unrealistic. You could maybe are +50-60 points to a sub 400 BST Pokémon and maybe +40 for a low 400 BST Pokémon. Bug Type in general needs buffed and as I think most people agree Bug Type should be Super Effective against Fairy Type and resist Fairy Type moves.
I think Ledian should focus in boosting it's bulk, it has a massive SpD, getting it to midling Atk with Iron Fist would be plenty to boost it. Add Coaching, Upper Hand, etc for some utility and it should be a big buff. As for its abilities, I think Early Bird needs buffed to make Rest Instantaneous while keeping its normal benefit and Swarm should be changed to boost the Pokémon's Speed when on the field with an allied Bug Type Pokémon. This would be thematic and maybe encourage Tera Bug.
I think some Bug Type moves need buffed, Skitter Smack should be a standard Priority Move, Bug Buzz needs a damage boost, Lunge should not make contact and X-Scissor should have increased Critical Hit Ratio. Signal Beam needs to come back.
Bug should be super effective against Fairy-Types? Hell no! I think Fairy should still resist Bug, but make the latter type resist the former. How many mystical creatures can you think of that prey on bugs, eat them, kill them and be outsmarted by? How many fairies can you think of that outsmarted bugs, eat them, kill them, destory them and enslaved them. Making Bug-Types super effective against Fairy-Types is overall extremely unrealistic in my opinion, and instead only resist each other. This makes the Bug and Fairy relationship more healthy and balanced.
If you think Fairy should be weak to Bug, fine, I respect your opinion. It's still very unrealistic in my eyes.
I can't say much about the moves making sense, but Spore is a mushroom Pokemon move only (it's even called "Mushroom Spore" in Japan). About Kricketune, I'd give it the Normal-type. Is it really a buff? It would lose on the Fighting resistance, getting a Ghost immunity instead. The Normal-type would also underline its theme of sound, since it's a musician and most sound moves are Normal-type. A good chunk of them also hit both targets in double battles, so capitalising on it with STAB for neutral damage against most threats could find a cool niche. Technician would also be of great help for expanding some of these options. I know my more lore-accurate approach is kind of against the point here, but I thought my Kricketune idea is interesting enough to bring up.
I think the big struggle with giving it normal for sound is that there are no physical sound moves and Krickitune is a physical attacker. It makes sense thematically for them, but mechanically it clashes with what ol' DelelelewooOOP is built for stats wise.
Butterfree definitely should have gotten the Psychic typing too. It has a pretty decent amount of Psychic moves and that would help it differentiate it from Vivillon.
Kricketune should get an evolution that is Bug/Dark based off of Phantom of the Opera.
Only reason I don't think this'd work is because I'm pretty sure the Phantom of the Opera is known for playing the organ, while Kricketune and its line are clearly based on string instruments, due to crickets creating sound in a very similar way.
@@Justic_ It’s related to music, so it works.
@@matthewlasalvia7026 not really? Like, it's a somewhat thin connection when, again, Kricketunes is based on string instruments specifically, down to the shape. There are probably other operas-adjacent novels that'd feature a string instrument more prominently they could center an evolution around first, before just jumping to a different instrument due to a more well-known story.
Would have given Kricketune the normal typing as well as punk rock as an ability. With boosted sp atc and maybe speed as well as util I think it would be much more unique
Boom burst, hyper voice, bug buzz, maybe fake out, psychic noice and sparkling serenade would be nice and would make much better endgame
tbf, while making it more sound-based would be somewhat unique, most of the bug-types on this list already were special-attacking, leaning fast bug-types, so... that part wouldn't really have been unique at all.
@@Justic_ if that's the case I have a different idea. What if we changed it's typing to bug/normal but made it more bulky and really slow and then gave it an ability which boosts priority of sound based moves. Additionally with the addition of parting shot it would be a cool support Pokémon with priority sing and parting shot held back by it's typing in double battles and by sleep clause in smogon. It would be a unique and cool Pokémon. If you wanna spice it up you could also let the ability affect all sound based moves on the field (partner and opponents moves), which would leave to cool partner and opponent iterations.
@@kaitozoldyck152 honestly, I feel it wouldn't be too broken if you just straight up gave it Prankster completely. It'd add moves like Sticky Webs, Taunt, Encore and Batton Pass to the list, even if it'd have no additional effect on offensive sound-based move. Either way I'm pretty sure it'd have access to priority Perish Song as well which is pretty unique.
Ledian and Ariados need evolutions.
A Bug Fighting even more superhero styled evo for Ledian.
An ariados evo to look like a super sentai monster.
Just for a bigger rivalry of design
I think Bug/Psychic would fit better for Ledian. The pokedex makes multiple reference to Ledian getting its power from the stars and that is definitely a Psychic type thing. Would also be cool to have Ledian (or a Ledian evo) be the physical counterpart to Orbeetle. Could even give it a new signature move that is a Psychic punch to capitalize on Iron Fist (alongside assumedly a huge buff to its Atk). Could call the move star powered punch or cosmic punch or something similar.
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New move. 120 bp bug special. Scale storm
20% chance to sleep, poison or paralyze
For a new physical move.
120 bp Bug Pummel Bug
The user rapidly swings its many arms erratically to smack the enemy. Lowers both user and enemies defense stats.
Don’t really agree with just giving each of these bugs an insane stat boost (+100) as if they got megas. They’re supposed to be 1st or 2nd route pokes for a reason.
The bugs i gave stat boosts to are still even at the 490 total below:
2 regional birds (also tying Kilowattrel)
3 regional bugs
Luxray (no particular class but very early route mon with 523 BST)
Stoutland
Ties Dubwool
I'm sure there's others i missed asw this is purely going off the early route tab on bulbapedia I pulled the bugs list from, figured it's the most fair comparison. 490 isn't really too egregious especially if the goals to make them actually compete with other fully evolved mons
Agreed, it isn't really a realistic change, at most we have seen Game Freak give a Pokémon +40 to their BST (Masqerain). It would be reasonable to give +50-60 to a sub 400 BST Bug Type but +100 is too far. Buffing or Changing Abilities are reasonable as are making move pool updates and those could make them viable without needing +100 to BST. We have seen teams use Venonat or Eviolite Slowpoke so clearly stats aren't everything.
@@oLivSama490 bug types are too high. They are meant to be early choices (minus Orbeetle, Vikavolt and Leavanny who were meant to be outliers.) They have high bsts but they are balanced. Most of the mons in this video would just be unbalanced. (Leavanny is not a mushroom so no Spore)
Most of them are fully evolved by level 10, they should have those levels raised for these stats
I agree. I know it’s a theoretical video but it’s definitely more reasonable to just give some mons a stat rearrangement and maybe something more like a 20 stat bonus
I wish they made bug strong against fairy because it could’ve brought back the concept of bug types being weak but good against the one op type since psychic types aren’t as op anymore.
Like come on dude bug is my favorite type and leavanny is my favorite Pokémon of all time and they get treated like this 😭
In Honor of G-Max Butterfree's Signature Move I say call it Bewilder! It means practically the same thing as Befuddle (to make someone Puzzled and Confused), sounds like the name of a Special Attack, and even starts with the same syllable while having those D & L sounds near the end
Really the buffs suggested for the 2 stage bugs would most realistically manifest as new evolutions, if they decided to go ahead and do that for them. That said, I feel like Ground makes no real sense on Kricketune. If I were to buff it via an evo, as that's the most likely option, I'd lean more into Special Attack as a Bug/Psychic type instead, giving it a renamed Punk Rock and letting it use moves like Bug Buzz, Psychic Noise, Boomburst, and whatever other sound moves would work well thematically.
Psychic could definitely be cool but offensively it's a pretty underwhelming STAB to partner, though I'll admit Bug at least similarly to Ground has actual offensive merit to help a Psychic type coverage wise. It could work for sure and if it was some concept like this I could see it actually being interesting at least, just wanted to try and change as little of the original intent as possible and leaning into a ground type was easier to do so with as it kept more of the original competitive identity keeping technician. Also it's a type combo we don't have much of and figured it'd be a cool way to introduce it to the scene, albeit the type definitely fits more as a concept for the tools it has rather than kricketune itself.
Funnily enough I also had the idea to turn G-Max Befuddle into a normal move for Butterfree's signature and I'd call it Befuddling Scales
7:45 they did not, in fact, go over Scolipede later on in the video.
For Ledian, I would give it a 100-point bst boost with its new stats being 95HP, 55 attack, 80 defence, 55 SpA, 110 SpD, 105 speed. Giving it the fighting type as a bug fighting type. Then for abilities trade out early bird for insomnia, replace iron fist for huge power as its hidden ability and replace swarm with a bug type version of pixelate so the normal type moves it learns becomes bug type with a buff and stab.
that would be fun
It would still not be good😭
Huge Power is such a boring way to buff a Pokémon though.
Like yeah it is technically a buff but this feels less like buffing Ledian and more just making another slightly better Heracross
@@browserjunior4707 who tf cares if it’s boring or not
@@browserjunior4707 Yeah, but it's really hard to make it feel unique in a game with over 1000 mons while keeping the kamen Rider theme without making more original abilities. And I didn't want to make a new ability that we didn't have a equivalent already in game like the bug type pixelate was.
Holy shit it took 3 whole minutes to name the first pokemon wtf
Thank you for saving me time.
Perfect timing. I was just talking about krickitune and how he would be a beast with the slash ability and all the slashing moves like leaf blade etc.
Beedrill give it the mega by using a metal coat trade or ancient power to evolve directly into it.
Butterfree more psychic moves and higher special damage
Dwebble should have been a starting bug with two EVOS and it was perfect as one too. So op.
Butterfree Bug type Signature move names, huh? Monarch Dust, Befuddle Powder, Pollen Storm, Shimmer Scales, Radiant Flurry.
I want Ariados to get an offensive move that throws out Toxic Spikes the same way Ceaseless Edge throws out Spikes. In fact, basically any moth Pokémon should have a move like that since their lore often describes toxic scales blowing off their wings.
You should call butterfree’s move “Mystic Breeze”, “Pheroblast” or “Particle Storm”
I would buff Early Bird to always wake up the turn after or one turn after using Rest, to make it a niche option compared to Insomnia and Vital Spirit.
I once saw a theorymon suggestion to give ledian an ability to hit four times, one for each of its arms, and still with a 35 base attack it suddenly became broken
I suggest just calling the butterfree move Befuddle
I would give Vikavolt Speed Boost as it’s hidden ability to match its Pokédex entry
"Considering in game gameplay too" and then gives kricketune 112 speed and 125 attack.
A pokemon you get at level 10
Unless you're gonna go through the effort of EV training most games have gyms that are anti bug types and you'd maybe at most kill 1 mon now with kricketune because it'd by level up have no moves able to properly handle rock types, and even the games that aren't its defenses still aren't very strong and it's level up movepools always been bad as most of the good moves are mid game TMs or tutors
@@oLivSama nah this is cope.
It would be broken especially with technician fury cutter early on and an additional ground typing like you said. It would be neutral to rock in this case and would only really get screwed over by falker and its not even catchable in any johto game.
+ many of the games like xy, swsh, bw1/2 and sv all have gym leaders early game that arent anti bug at all. This comment makes very little sense overall.
Spore makes no sense for leavanny spores are exclusive to fungi it makes no sense for a leaf bug to have it
it would also be the most broken sun pokemon in history
Interestingly enough, there are plants that use spores instead of pollen, like ferns! Though it definitely is something that is more associated with fungi
@@ethanralstin6675 the japanese name of the move (as well as at least the german localization of it) explicitly call the move MUSHROOM Spore though, so it's quite clear that even a fern-Pokemon most likely wouldn't be given this move.
A name I could think of for Butterfree's new signature move would be Silvery Dust. Silver Wind is a bug move that forcefully blasts a wind full of harmful moth dust at the enemy but this move would be like a light powdering on the enemy that guarantees they'll breathe it in.
I'm funilly enough doing a Bug Only Nuzlocke right now
Bug being super effective to Dark and Psychic is its biggest strength. Balances out alot of OP mons. Definitely needs a Buff though. Higher Stats for the Buf type Mons would do Justice.
Shout out to Merciless as an alternative ability to Ariados: decrease it's attack, but make it able to auto crit against poisoned targets after using its signature move. Something something lore reason that Pineco evolve into Forretress to become immune to the Ariados that normally prey on it? 🤔
Id probably call the new move for Butterfree "Befuddle Beam" as a homage to its G-Max move "G-Max Befuddle"
The idea I always had for Beautifly, also to set it apart from Butterfree and Vivillon, was to give it the ability solar power. Butterflies need the warmth of the sun to fly, so it makes sense thematic wise, it already learns Morning Sun and can keep itself healthy with Gigadrain, which it also naturally learns. With a base 110 special attack doubled in sun it would actually hit decently hard. Then give it additional move pool options like Weather Ball and Mystical Fire and rage powder for utility. It's still slow, so it would need some additional points in speed to be usable (or actually less points to be an option in trick room sun) and you'd have an interedting sun mon. Probably still not a go-to mon for sun teams, but at least a nieche for Beautifly, something it currently doesn't have.
I've always thought Ledian needs an ability similar to Iron Fist but causes Punch type moves to deal double damage but from Sp Atk. It also needs a STAB punch to work with
If they had made bug super effective against fairy, then fairy wouldnt be as op & bug would have some more viability
No, it would be so much better if Fairy and Bug-Types resist each other. Because some mystical creatures cause harm to bugs, including some species of fairies. And some others are vulnerable against them, mainly smaller fairies and pixies. I say we should keep the Fairy-Type more balanced by making them super effective against Ghost-Types (like they should have been for a long time), resist and get resisted by Poison instead of being weak to it, be immune to and also liable against Grass-Types and make Fairy-Types resist and get resisted by Bug and Ice-Types (for the latter mainly because in numerous fantasy stories and media, strong magical powers coming from mystical creatures can actually destory enteral winters). Like still make them one of the most powerful types, but also keep them balanced and not too OP (with execptions like Mega Diancie that needs a HP buff ASAP and Zacian).
yeah that has always bugged (haha) me too. it just feels on theme that fairy would be scared of bugs.
@@pussmagic1541 none of what you said is balance
You just removed 1 of its 2 weaknesses and gave it even more resists and immunities.
Tf
@beckhampang191 And more types it gets resisted by. Poison is a complicated type and is based on different toxins. Some toxins and many vemons and poisons can be cured by magical creatures and fairies (ie, one true love's kiss breaking various poisonous spells in various fairytales). Radioactive and nuclear poisons though will easily kill off a mystical creature if they make contact with them. That's why I made it that Fairy now resists and gets resisted by Poison-Types in my headcanon instead of being weak to it. Poison instead gets to be super effective against the Water, Normal, Grass and Fighting-Types. The only other type I made Fairy super effective against is Ghost and that's it. They're now only weak to Steel-Types (speaking of Steel, I think they deserve to be nerfed more than Fairy, especially how dominant they're in Generation 9 and the Steel-Type being the best Tera type; also, Fairy-Type Tera isn't as good as the Steel-Type Tera). Not only I gave Fairy an immunity to Grass-Types, but also a liability against the same type because most mystical creatures and fairies live in forests and often don't want to harm the forests they live in.
Fairy gets resisted by and resists 3 types at the same time in my headcanon, being Bug (mainly because even though the smaller fairies and pixies would actually get preyed on by bugs, a lot of fairies are human-size or shapeshifters and can outsmart bugs. Also, some mystical creatures would kill and even eat bugs, plus some enslave bugs), Ice (mainly because although half of the mystical creatures and fairies in the world get frozen and can't adapt to harsh colds, in multiple fantasy stories, media and literature, strong enough magic can actually stop enteral winters for good and turn the weather and seasons back to normal, and some magic and mystical creatures and fairies would just melt or crush ice) and Poison-Types (which I mentioned earlier).
Otherwise, the other resistances and types that Fairy gets resisted by are still the same, and they're still super effective against Dragon, Dark and Fighting.
Lokix arguably doesn't need buffs. Its BST is below average, but it's also got heavily min-maxed stats.
As far as names for Butterfree signature special attacks go, I came up with a few. All come with the 50% chance for status:
'Fluttershot', stylized as a sort of scatter-shot of butterfly/moth scales. 85 power, 100 Accuracy, 15 pp. Simple, effective, scary.
'Butter Bomb', a ball attack that has a glob of honey mixed with various insect venoms. 65 power, 100 accuracy, 20 pp. Blocked by Bulletproof, and doubles power on statused mons. Literally bug/special Dire Claw, with a solid immune counter to balance it, since it loses that steel counter.
'Sweet Powder', an offensive powder move that would bypass the Grass immunity, but not the goggles immunity. 100 power, 80 accuracy (to be most accurate w/ compound eyes), 5 pp. This would give Butterfree some staggering potential as a Compound Eyes mon, while giving it a meaningful drawback in exchange for the raw power it would have if it opted for Tinted Lens instead. I like this one a lot when paired with your idea to give it Focus Blast! This set would essentially become a baby Volcarona, and I'd argue this version especially doesn't even need the stat boost to become at least slightly viable in UU.
I have a new move idea for Ariados, which is really strong but balance by the fact that it's only available to Ariados. I want to have its spider theme come into play, and how it can retreat using its own web.
A move that makes Ariados enter into a semi invulnerable state like fly (being able to be hit by the same moves as fly), and then switch out at the end of the turn. Ariados is really slow and frail, so I think the move is balanced out by that.
For a butterfry unique move probably just powderstorm in reference to it's ability to get poison and sleep powder
The Pokémon Fan game Pokémon Spectrum has the perfect take for the much needed buffs for the Ledian and Ariados lines. Give them and their Pre Evolutions Regional varients and then new third stage evolutions that make the new evolution for Ledian line a Bug Fighting Type with new signature Ability and massive Base stat total increase and a good new Signature STAB move and make the new evolution for the Ariados line a Poison and Dark Type a new Signature Ability and a good signature STAB move.
In the case of an Evolution for Ledian, an Ability that acts as Tough Claws combined with Flying Type Stab. Or doubling the power of Contact move plus Levitate. For the evolution of Ariados, an Ability that acts as Intimidate but lowering Special Attack instead of Physical combined with Shadow Tag. Or just summoning Spider Web in addition to immediately poisoning the opponent upon being hit with a damaging move.
Alternatively you could just give them Levitate or Huge Power and Shadow Tag or Corrosion respectively, that'd all work too. These Pokémon just need something big and it has to be a drastic overhaul of an upgrade, it has to be more then just a miracle at this point honestly. And they deserve it the most since they've gone the longest time without receiving any kinda substantial buff that's actually made a difference since they were introduced as already weak Pokémon. And like with the Fan game Spectrum, I love that idea of going all in with a Superhero and Supervillain design and dynamic between these two and acting as one of the only instances of Pokémon that are evenly Natural Enemies. And it would be the first time we'd seen this since Durant and Heatmor. And it would be the first time we'd have seen it with two Bug Types exclusively. Before anyone asks, no Shelmet and Karablast evolving into Accelgor and Escavalier when trade only with each other DOES NOT COUNT! That is it's own (if you'll pardon the term) completely separate can of worms.
Now as for Leavanny, leaning into it's role as a caretaker and a support Pokémon while still being able to deal potential massive damage and _fast_ it should get a signature move that acts a combination of Swords Dance and Refresh for itself and an Ally Pokémon. If it's Ally is also a Bug Type, it heals it by a third of it's health in exchange for not sharply boosting it's own Attack in addition to healing status conditions and sharply raising it's Ally's Attack.
Since Butterfree is well known for using poison powder and sleep powder, I think that it’s signature move that you mentioned could be called “strange powder” or even “mysterious powder”
Doesnt have a offensive sound to it tho.
Make it Powder Bomb or Scale Storm
@@beckhampang191 not all moves have to sound offensive, especially bug type moves. Like Struggle Bug, Bug Buzz, or even Pollen Puff
i think its really hard to discuss bug type buffs without adressing a bunch of type table bs (namely, buffing grass, bug, poison, ice, rock in traits and type matchups while nerfing fairy and letting poison acid moves do x2 against steel).
because of that, i wasnt too excited by many of the buffs besides vikavolts new moves. Beautifly and Dustox's changed typing makes sense however.
assuming Dustox powered up form requires an item or location to unlock (way to increase stats mid or endgame) which would still allow it to not be super busted earlygame.
Dustox (Bug, Dark)
Ability: Merciless or Shield Dust, Compound Eyes (the same but with more low acc options) HA: Toxic Debris
new moves:
Dark Void, Ruination, Snatch, Parting Shot, some variant of Obstruct (obstagoon move) perhaps since dustox one of few mons to learn Protect by level up- maybe lowering spedef of target and raising Dustox's attack. Add on Night Daze, Power Trip and Punishment. Maybe add some stuff like focus blast or stun spore (but NOT sleep spore since 2 other early bugs already have that)
all this may seem like alot, and Dustox is just early regional bug so why get signature moves and stuff some may ask. well ever since gen 5 onwards, regional bugs can actually be pretty potent. Therefore, just add special forms later on in game to add some flair while still being somewhat mundane. Crecellia + Darkrai event to explain the new and better Beautifly Dustox forms would work quite well, with beautifly getting some crecellia inspirations and stuff like Dazzling/Queenly Majesty/ Armour Tail instead i suppose, to make up for wierder stat spread of only somewhat defensive slow potentcy of status and offensive beautifly moves.
Anyways back to Dustox, due to getting helped in bulk but only mininal gain to its very weak offenses, Dustox will mostly play a disrupting role but could go for Quiver Dance and new protect move boosts as well to go moreso on offensive if ability not toxic debris- has Power Trip and mixed offenses movepool so add to that by doing less accurate moves with stronger side effects. Dark Void for doubles, New Form loosely reminiscent of paradox forms but just discrete such as now taking on a crescent moon wing appearence like mega and paradox salamance.
Dusk --> Dustox Dark type Disruptor inspired by Darkrai and Crecellia --> Dark Void, other more niche moves like that Zoroark signiature move
Honestly I think you're to a degree sleeping on how powerful some of these would be, like a Bug and Ground STAB on Kricketune with a strong speed and attack stat hits a lot, since the bug typing offensively offers a lot of synergy for ground checks. Or like beedrill getting new priority and having near its megas stats while also gaining an item slot is a big deal. Bug type chart could use some looking into you're totally right, but I do think at least half of these if they existed right now could see legitimate play even in just a regulation F style format where it's not just lower power level types of mons. This Dustox still has a lot of merit vs the Whims tailwind + encore teams that ran next to bloodmoon, the Orbeetle would actually be a huge Trick Room contender with Redirection + Trick Room being genuinely terrifying, and Vikavolt would be a really cool ursaluna check with Tera, especially now that it'd have coverage for Torkoal which is it's worst matchup (unironically it's the only viable Tera Rock mon since Reg Cs niche Flutter Mane use for sun mirrors since it'd now have viable coverage for Torkoal and it'd check the ursalunas well that way).
@@oLivSama ok but i mean moreso that its hard to coordinate a reasonable buff without first accounting for major reworks. This video went moreso the stats approach, but i think that should be done only after looking at other balancing options if that makes sense. Its lesso that the buffs wouldnt work and moreso that id prefer stuff that made bug types overall more sustainable.
if i were to apply this to rock type pokemon for example, i would make more rock type moves, such as a spattk move that has decent damage and has its speed debuff chance guaranteed if a previous move missed or something (85bp spattk 90acc, -2spd to target and guaranteed hit chance if previous move missed. give only to very specific celestial mons like mineor, solrock, lunatone, etc.). imo, rocks weakness to ground is also unneccessary (removing that, ground still has 4 super effectivenesses which is alot)
then id give lunatone like psychic terrain setting ability or whatever ontop of the established buffs.
Just some video creation critique i suppose, especially because much higher stats would need to be accounted for in regular gameplay as well. Like i love bug and rock types thematically, but i think increased stats is the least creative option, and then other less good mons also have to deal with the additional powercreep. Id look moreso into specific moves to give say Beautifly that the other way more viable butterfly mons wouldnt neseccarily recieve such as lunar blessing, moonblast, healing wish and ally switch. Oh and draining kiss of course.
Signiature Ability-Proboscis: Draining moves bypass type resistances and also ignore target's stat increases. recieve 1.5 stab bonus if not already stab.
Rivalry, HA: Triage
I like the idea of Dustox being Bug/Dark with Toxic Debris to demonstrate it's lost Poison typing similar to Glimmora getting some Grass Moves since it looks like a flower.
I definitely see it acting as a bulky disruptor, Beautifly maybe doesn't need a type change so it is just another Ribombee, but adding some Fairy Type moves could be great for it, maybe with some added utility/support moves.
Personally I think Mat Block is the wrong direction for Silk Trap, it should become like Baneful Bunker & Spiky Shield where it becomes a perfect protection Just for the User and gives a detrimental effect...
I have a video suggestion. I played online battles in SV when the game first came out, but stopped after flutter mane. Every since then, ive been quite unsure of what the current Regulation H Meta is, so if you could make a video talking about, maybe "Top 10 Most Threatening VGC Pokemon" or something like that, i would be interested in watching that.
Edit - you already made a video covering this topic lmao I didn't know until watching it
For me the biggest issue with a lot of the early regional bugs isn’t the fact their low base stats hinder them, it’s the fact a lot have very mediocre abilities to utilize.
Butterfree, Dustox, Mothim, Scolipede, Leavanny, Vivillon, Vikavolt, and Lokix are the only ones that have decent abilities that they can still see usage. Every other Pokémon not listed has incredibly niche usage or just bad abilities.
Ariados imo doesn’t need 130 Attack, I feel personally that Ariados is meant to be disruptor Pokémon with a lot moves that annoy and provide support effects. This is supported by its signature move Toxic Thread, so I think buffing its HP/SpDef from 70 to 85, its Def to 80, and its Atk to 95. Currently there’s tons of deadly fighting types running around and Ariados has an amazing typing to handle their usual coverage so I feel giving it a +10 Def buff rather than 15 is fair enough. Now I know I said stats don’t really matter but my proposition for an ability change requires somewhat bulky stats to make work. I personally think replacing Sniper from Ariados with Oblivious is much better as it prevents taunt, which allows it to click moves like Rage Powder, String Shot, Toxic, Disable, and Sticky Web for free.
I also don’t necessarily agree on Lokix’s buff. +15 Speed is absolutely massive and you’ve already broken the point of not buffing it too much. +15 speeds makes it faster than Garchomp and the Lati twins. A Pokémon with base 102 Attack and Tinted Lens with base 117 speed is way too good offensively, especially with a type combo like Bug/Dark.
For reference now that you are 117 Speed, you are now currently the 5th fastest non legendary/mega Dark type in the franchise with arguably the best ability for a dark type in tinted lens. There are currently 3 types that resist dark and its fighting, dark, and fairy, and the only 4x resists that exist are type combos involving these three types, 2 of which are neutral to bug. This means that Iron Valiant is the only hard wall to Lokix, everyone else is going to be chipped for massive damage, especially so now that Choice Band is the go-to item since your speed is so high you can effectively run adamant now. The only other fast non-mega/legendary dark type options are Meowscarada, Greninja, Roaring Moon, and Weavile. Meow and Greninja while good suffer from their predictability due to the Protean nerf, and while Moon and Weavile are absolute monsters, they struggle a lot against bulky fairy types with good defensive stats. Lokix can ignore both of these limitations as it has a spammable knock off, priority, and pivoting options in U-Turn. If you wanted to have a more tame buff for Lokix, +5 in both defenses and access to Stomping Tantrum is more than enough for it.
for me lokix needs the buffs you said PLUS access to upper hand. i really feel like it would make it more fun to use considering how important priority moves are. with the speed buff it would make upper hand more relevant
Leavanny isn't a mushroom, so I don't see it getting spore. Maybe sleep powder
Yes, or even a signature move where it heals every Pokemon's health when all are at the same party as the Leavanny. Bonus points if the Pokemon is not fully evolved or are still young and not adults yet. And if Eevee is at the same party as the Leavanny or even on the same battle as one, it gives Eevee a quicker chance to evolve onto either Espeon, Umbreon, Sylveon, a Bug-Type Eeveevoultion when it comes out and a Normal-Type Eeveevoultion which is overdue.
One idea I have is that Ledian could get an evolution that has the ability Zero to Hero, having the hero form look like a magical girl
Most people say to make Kricketune part Normal, but I disagree. Honestly, pure Bug or Bug/Dark (given its nocturnal nature and access to various Dark type moves like Taunt and Night Slash) works way better. But I wonder if just making him an offensive mon would be the way to go. Infestation + Perish Song means it can Perish Trap by itself in two turns without the need of a Shadow Tag mon. Adding the Dark type could also be really useful to make it immune to Prankster Taunt, which would give it a really good niche on its own.
So my play would be to have two visions. Either a glass cannon pure Bug that gets Sharpness, or a bulkier Bug/Dark type that can use its pretty good support kit like Sticky Web, Taunt, Perish Song, etc. while being unable to be stopped.
I can see dustox as a beefy special defense setter
Dear God some of these pokemon needs buffed
Personally, I feel like just making Beedrills stats Mega-Beedrills is perhaps a bit too... overbearing? It's MEGA-Beedrill for a reason, while Beedrill does deserve a buff I feel that's probably a bit too extreme. In that sense, I'd paddle back just a bit, lower Beedrills speed to a still respectable 120 or 130, and putting what was taken there as well as whatever is needed from its attack-stat to let it keep Beedrills original special attack, to not be too minmaxed, but it would still be plenty threatening that way. That way Mega-Beedrill, which will probably return with Legends Z-A and following games, will also still have something to build on, also being able to put the extra stats it'll now have left over into its lackluster defenses.
As for Ledian, usually I'd be more hesitant to raise its stats like this, but under this premise, I feel, while unrealistic, bringing up its attack that much is fine, although personally I'd still more lean towards putting its attack around 85 and putting the rest into defense, to keep with its current spirit of being more of a team player, not to mention giving it a support-role would fit with its counterpart Ariados having more of a debuffer-role. Thanks to Iron Fist it'd still deal decent damage, although I'd also suggest the possibility of giving it a new bug-type signature punching-move that'd hit multiple times, basically Comet Punch but bug-type and perhaps a bit stronger. Although on that end, in order as to not overlap with Heracross too much, since Mega-Heracross is noteably also a Skill Link attacker, I'd say it'd be fine for Ledian to stay a bug/flying-type.
Personally not a big fan of giving Ariados Corrosion, it'd be good competetively, sure, but I feel it just doesn't fit lorewise imo, so it'd be better to search for other options first, perhaps even something original. Like, it's a spider, logically I think Ariados should have an immunity to Sticky Web and other web-based moves. You could spin this two way: Either give it Clear Body to protect it stat-changes in general, or a new ability that'd function like Heavy-Duty Boots and make it immune to hazards.
As for Beautifly, I honestly really like the buffs, at the same time though, since Beautifly is just that vanilla, I feel a good way to differentiate it from Butterfree, Vivillon and Ribombee would be to make it a bulky special attacker instead. Take from its weirdly high attack-stat, put most into defenses, put just a bit into special attack as well. Thanks to Quiver Dance, if its speed isn't lowered it could still probably be a viable setup-sweeper. Only downside is that this would make it quite similar to Dustox, although you could argue that them evolving from the same Pokemon this would also fit.
On the topic of Dustox, I'd just say that I also feel making it a psychic-type would be a viable option, it feels slightly more justified than Butterfree, especially if we're changing its type anyways. Also I don't think there's a Rage Powder-user with Prankster so far, same with Spotlight, but those already have priority anyways so...
I feel like Kricketunes buffs... don't really fit with Kricketune? Like, how does the ground-type make sense for it? Yeah, bug/ground is a decent typing only present in Nincada so far, but Kricketune is a violin-shaped/inspired cricket, that doesn't really make sense with the ground-type. If anything, I could see it as a dark-type, even if it's just because it learns Night Slash naturally, or even as our first bug/normal-type, since the normal-type is usually associated with a lot of sound-based moves as well. In addition, I'm fine with making it faster, but does it really look THAT fast? Personally, I'd probably rather go with making it more bulky, maybe also giving it the option of Prankster, especially when making it a dark-type, which would give it access to priority Sing, Taunt, Sticky Webs, Baton Pass and perhaps most interestingly Perish Song. I feel that kind of playstyle would mesh with Kricketunes identity way more.
I'd say Leavanny has at least the _option_ of taking a bit from its special attack to put into its speed or attack-stat instead, probably preferring its speed. That way it could also function outside of the sun with Chlorophyl, and perhaps replacing Swarm, you could give it Sharpness alongside access to a few more blade-type moves like Night Slash or Solar Blade.
For Orbeetle, I'd put on the table that just like Butterfree got a signature move based on its GMAX-move, so should Orbeetle. Especially since Orbeetles GMAX-move set up gravity, while Orbeetle usually doesn't even have access to the move Gravity. This could also give it interesting support-potential, since Gravity wouldn't just ground flying Pokemon, but also increase the accuracy of moves which can be very beneficial.
I'd have suggested Spidops be a bug/dark-type instead, if this generation didn't already have Lokix as well, since Spidops seems based on something like a spy or a spec-ops agent. In that sense, fighting-type fits decently enough as well, otherwise I'd say ground-type makes more sense for it than Kricketune, but it'd need the ground-type stab to go along as well.
For Lokix, I'm not sure it really needs a buff at all, since even with its stats being below the cap of 490, I remember it performing quite well, at least in Singles.
*Taps the sign* Vikavolt needs to be a faster pokemon either with a higher speed stat or the hidden ability speed boost, as it being slower than a regirock is completely unfitting
I feel like these buffs are good but they are band aids for the real issue.
I would lower the majority of these pokemon's total stats back down to 450 (keeping most of the distribution changes about the same), but give bug type as a whole an immunity to dark.
Dark type is one of the best types in the game, and currently has no immunity.
Bug would make perfect since to be immune to dark as bugs live in darkness and often prefer it.
Please make more buffing Pokémon videos I really like them
Cool video but you should show the stats and stat transitions on screen more (Abilities and other stuff too). It's really hard to keep up with what you're saying based on just sound alone, and it's not optimal to have a separate tab with each Pokemon's stats or other "obscure" information so it's easier to understand.
TDLR be more visual and showing. I'd recommend you to look up WolfeyVGC's videos, as his editing and visuals are very well placed and make his videos easy to keep up with.
Vikavolt having a rock type earth power is amazing ( I’m not trying to be a jerk )
Thank you so much for releasing this video and on the day my exams end ....... thank you so much!!!!!!!!
Butterfree new move: Powder Storm
I think some of them are buffed too much considering you can easily get them around levels 10-15
A lot of them are ability focused and we could easily fix with making the good abilities hidden like adaptability beedrill and competitive beautifly
I would make silk trap have a 50% chance to set up stickywebs on a sucseful block
Having a 145 attack and speed before the 1st gym isn’t crazy?
Presumably with the new buffed stats, there would be an evo level increase.
They should give ledian a fighting/bug evolution. It's based on superheros. AND IN JAPAN. MOST SUPERHEROS ARE BUG BASED
HELL. IT'S AN ALIEN. PSYCHIC/BUG ALSO FITS. ANYTHING BESIDES BUG/FLYING
Ledian should swap attack stats the special defense should be debuffed and put into speed. And it should get a new abulity which adds priority to punching moves
I would just go ahead and call it Befuddle
Beefuddle* kek
Bug type should resist ghost since bugs (considered good in japan) ward off evil, hence its advantage against dark, should also apply to evil spirits. They should resist fairy since the guardians of nature won't do much against a keystone group of animals in nature, Fairy should be neutral to Bug attacks too since balancing for fairy.
Also ground should be weak to Bug since many bugs burrow.
Hear me out: make kricketune bug/normal with a clone of Toxtricity's punk rock ability, and then give it as many sound-based moves as humanly possible.
Just making Beedrill into a slightly less powerful Mega Beedrill is insane. I don't think it could bee balanced for in-game.
Sounding really manly bro keep up the work👍
These bugs needed more good bug dual types.
Ledian fighting bug. Beedrill mega rock bug Butterfree psychic bug.
Aridos more set up moves and speed glass cannon.
Hoenne bug duo needs better moves and types. Big poison and bug fairy would be better.
Kiricitune steel bug. Levanny anything but grass type. I can see it work with fighting or just be a base bug instead.
Why would Mega Beedrill be rock type? That makes no sense.
DONT let bro cook
Nah, give Leavanny a chance to Mega evolve and give it a trio Bug/Grass/Steel-Type or Bug/Grass/Fairy (not sure which one is better). Also, Leavanny could use a signature move and potentially a signature ability that heals the Pokemon in your and your allies team, bonus points for Eevee to evolve into one of the friendship Eeveevoultions, a Bug-Type or Normal-Type Eeveevoultions and for Pokemon in those teams that are not fully evolved. And give it a bit more speed and special attack. Plus, some decent new moves to help it out a bit (one of those is not Spore).
Yippie love the buffs!
kricketune should be bug/normal. sound moves are normal type. stab boomburst and bug resisting fighting and normal giving a ghost immunity. all sound very nice. wish they'd give it a unique ability for sound moves. damage dealt with sound moves heals you/using a sound move heals you and allies for 25% of your max health.
id give beautifly sap sipper
Id have gone bug/normal for kriketune since many sound moves are normal type.
Butterfree with 105 speed would be busted. Fastest spore in the game by a mile( I know it does not get spore but compound eyes plus sleep powder is pretty much the same)
Lokix is easy to buff, just give him a toy to stick in his belt and he'll get some random overpowered ability like killing god with an orange, like the Kamen Rider he is
All Venomoth needs to become god tier is Well Baked Body.
Why does the first three generations have two regional bugs one of which being half poison and the other being half flying
Haven't watched it all yet. But everytime i see a bug buff video i got so say bug shouldn't be affected by entry hazards
“Dont want to make beautifly a worse version of Vivian” then don’t….. make it a mixed attacker give to both competitive and defiant boost its attack sp attack and speed up to 110
Hi new sub! Great video!
Venomoth buff?!?!? It's already a great Pokémon
Nnnaaaah, Dustox really doesn't look like a Dark Type...
I think kriketube and leavanny should have been given tinted lens as hidden abilities
I genuinely think that some Pokemon are intended to be so bad that even a casual will ditch them.
Wow, amazing video, Liv! I hope that Scolipede gets more attention, it is a really good bug type, especially when you get speed boost going and at least one swords dance up. Great video, keep going, Liv!
(Edit: please make shorts with Sabrina Carpenter’s old songs like ‘Skin’, ‘Sue me’, ‘I’m Fakin etc.)
I find it so funny that despite being a shitmon in vgc, lokix is like a top mon in Smogon UU and is more viable than former ou staples like latios, tyranitar and toxapex
How to boost Venamoth? Give it Well-Baked Body
You never talked about Scolipede
Oops when I rerecorded I must have forgot to read over that line, it's so good it doesn't need any and if it was in SV it would have 1000% seen play as a fast Flutter Mane check for certain at least in some sense. Plus its stats aren't really able to be buffed and it's movepools really good anyway
bro completely skipped over scolipede 😔
Nothing for Wormadam/Mothim? That's another early game bug mon in Sinnoh that you can get before the 2nd gym. Maybe a little less room to work with as they both are at 424 bst, and youre boosting these guys to 490 bst, but still early game bug. Cool video nonetheless.
Wormadam/Mothim are actually not considered Route 1 bugs shockingly enough, same vein as like Combee which you can also get through honey trees before gym 2! It's definitely a bad bug for sure but with how many bugs need buffs anyway I kept it to strictly those in that Route 1 classification according to Bulbapedia
As a whole I think fairy should be given a weakness to bug