Neutron 4 is a Mixing Godsend For Beginners
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Neutron 4 is a ridiculously powerful and intelligent plugin, but if you're new to the @iZotopeOfficial ecosystem it can be a lot to take in. In this video, I'll show you Neutron 4's workflow and how to use some of its best feature along the way.
🤖 Try Neutron 4: bit.ly/neu4-onesto 🤖
TIMELINE
00:00 How To Use iZotope Neutron 4 for Beginners
00:10 What is Neutron 4?
00:33 When should you use Neutron 4?
00:52 The Workflow
05:07 Using Neutron 4 on Groups
07:17 The Unmasking Module
09:05 The Target Library
10:45 The Visual Mixer
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Hey thanks for watching! 🤖 Try Neutron 4: bit.ly/neutron4 🤖
What questions do you have about Neutron 4?
Neutron 4 is great for non-beginners too! Especially those of us who are doing all the composing, producing, recording, and mixing in a small home studio. I, for one, would rather spend time composing and recording my tunes; and less time bogged down in mixing with a pile of plugins. That's where Neutron 4 is saving me a ton of time and wheel spinning. Your video is helpful in learning a good workflow for using it efficiently. Thanks!
You're totally right! Neutron 4 is a professional-grade mixing suite, it's seriously amazing. I use it for the exact reason that you do. I don't have the time to really dig into mixing, and honestly that's ok for my needs. But then again, even if I did specialize in mixing I would probably be using Neutron 4 in some way.
Anyways, glad you're loving Neutron 4, and it brings me so much joy to know that this video could help! Thanks for watching!
The triple threat
Preach for us, bruv!!!!
Yeah I'm tempted. I've been mixing in proper studios since the tape days, but I've got a serious issue with nasty standing wave bass mud in my home studio that means I'm just not getting mixes I can trust, even with the Yamaha N10s. Cos if you cant hear it well, it doesnt matter how "golden" your ears are, its gonna be munted. So as my Dad (whos both a pro audio engineer and a pilot) would put it, sometimes ya gotta fly by the dials and learn to trust the meters. This has been particular relevant to the old boy who *still* can pull off a mean mastering job despite needing hearing aids in his old age, because he's a master of reading 'the dials' and knowing that he might not hear those high ends anymore, but that graph is showing him exactly what they are doing. I dont have the old boys chops, but maybe this AI stuff can rescue my mixes without having to book time in a better room for final mixes.
lovin the hair, avocado colored walls, and everything you're doing with this channel man! so stoked on all the success you're having. 🙌🏼
thanks dude! it's crazy to see the growth after two years. I feel like I learned way more than I thought I ever would. I'm becoming a yt expert which is so weird to think about
I'm just getting started with Neutron 4 so this is so helpful! The quality of these videos is amazing , keep it up!!
Hey thanks! Thanks for the feedback too, so happy to hear that it could help.
Thanks. I'm not a beginner but I don't really like mixing. And even though other musicians say that I'm actually good at it, I still have the feeling that I don't know what I'm really doing. I love composing, arranging and sound design but the tweaking afterwards is often too much. I guess that this might help me.
I'm coming from a similar place. My favorite part of the process is composing and arranging. So when it comes time ti mixing I want to get it done as quickly and easily as possible. Probably not the best attitude, but Neutron 4 certainly helps me get by.
Based off where you're coming from, I think Neutron 4 could be useful for you so you can get back to composing and arranging.
Same here!
Nice quick & clear explanation. 1st time I've come across this plug-in = really cool. Thanks & Cheers from Seattle! AC
Thanks for watching! Happy this video was helpful. Quick and clear is always the goal for these videos.
Great video!!! Just got the neutron 4, and your video covered most of the stuff I was confused on! Plus I saw you used Bit wig studio which is the same daw I use so definitely gonna need to hit you up on tips there too👍🏽.thanks again💯
Nice you’re a Bitwig user! It’s such a fun DAW. Thanks for watching, hope you enjoy Neutron 4!
This is great! Your explanation and demonstration is phenomenal. I've been trying to decide if Neutron 4 is something I need or could use, and your video here is the first one that has provided the insights I need to make that decision. Last year I upgraded to Ozone 9 advanced and really like it and am using it, but wasn't sure how Neutron 4 fits into everything. Now I see, and feel as though I can make an intelligent decision here, especially since I can get it for $149 on my account. Hard to pass up if I think it is something I will use and benefit from on a regular basis like I have experienced with Ozone 9.
Thanks again for taking the time to explain all of this. I always get a lot out of your videos. Have a wonderful day! 🙏🙏🙏
This is so great to hear!
I always thought that Neutron is a fantastic tool, but I remember how confused I was when I first opened it. It was hard to understand and hard to know what its purpose was. So I felt a video like this is really important for anyone new to Neutron.
It's such good news to hear that there were some great insights in this video for you. If you do decide to buy it, please consider using my affiliate link (found in the description). Regardless, I hope you find the tools you need to make all your music better.
@@ThisIsOnesto - Thanks for the heads up on your affiliate link. I'll definitely use is if I decide to get this. I have until June 30, and the way I am it will probably be on June 30! I always think things through carefully, and I try hard not to spend a lot of money on anything unless I'm confident I will use it. I will watch your video a few more times, I'm sure I didn't catch everything the first time through. Thanks for all of your help and insights!
very nice video, well done, informative and well narrated, THANKS a lot, greetings from Germany!
thanks for the feedback. It's always good to hear from viewers, especially when they're international! Glad this video made it all the way to Germany.
Watched you Nectar 3 vid, so watching this was a no brainer, thanks again a new subscriber 🤟🙏👍
Nice, thanks for watching both videos. I honestly think my Neutron 4 vid is better than my nectar one haha!
Anyways, hope these videos could help, thanks again for the sub.
Great video. Thanks for explaining when and where in the chai you use it ❤️.
Of course, it’s a common question so I’m happy to answer it. Thanks for watching!
This vid is very helpful, thank you! Great simple explanation of the features. I have a question about the unmasking feature. In your example, you used it to give a better separation of the bass & kick drum. When you decide on the changes it made for you, does it save those changes to the individual tracks? In your example, does it apply the changes to both the bass track & drum track & save it in each channel’s setting?
That's a good question, thanks for asking.
Let's say you have a vocal and guitar track and the guitar is getting in the way of the vocals. You would place Unmask on the audio that you want to get out of the way, in this case the guitar. You do not need to place Unmask on the vocal, since you are going to route a sidechain signal from the vocal into the guitar.
Once you do that, Unmask will do most of it for you, and it's a dynamic process meaning, that Unmask will always be reacting to whatever is on the vocal or guitar track.
Hopefully that helps!
You were very helpful and clear, thank you for the quick overview.
Thanks for the feedback! It's always good to know if these videos are doing their job. Thanks for watching.
This is an amazing video about Neutron 4. I understood properly your content. It is great for non beginners user. On a word it is very helpful video for users.
Thanks for watching, so glad this video can help!
Thanks bro this is amazing. Just downloaded the trial 🙂
Nice! Hope it blows your mind!
thank you for this video! i just started using these. Going to check your other videos on this. I am interested in created a consistent sound w my mixing . i am wondering if there is a path easily followed for consistency between mixes using these products.
And thank you for watching, I hope you get a lot out of Neutron. If you're interested in getting a consistent sound, make sure you check out Tonal Balance (I think it comes with Neutron).
Nice and clear. Very helpful. Thanks! 😀
Nice! Thanks for watching and for the feedback. I always want these videos to be clear and concise so it's good know that I hit the mark.
Thanks! Really great explanation and pace!!
Nice! Thanks for that feedback, the pace and depth of explanation is always something I try to balance well.
Hi man! awesome video. did you also try the sonible stuff? what are your thoughts in comparison to this?
Hey! Great seeing a comment from you again. I haven't tried the sonible stuff yet. From what I've seen however, it's getting a lot of great reviews. Hopefully I can get to it soon.
Onesto, THANKS for this helpful video!
You're welcome! And thanks so much for watching.
Thank you so much! This was really helpful!
You're welcome, thanks for watching! Glad the video could help.
Thanks for that, it took me just one video to start subscribing! Also, props for valuable commenting on the comments, even the odd "haters". Btw, no need to comment on this haha. :D
Haha, there's no need to comment, but I will anyways. Thanks for the appreciation and feedback. It seriously means a ton!
Let’s go to the party zone! Paying for the upgrade bc Onesto covered it🙌🏻
NICE! Hope you have a ton of fun with it. Thanks for your support, always appreciated.
I dont normally comment on vids but great job bro. you're amazing.
Thanks, this comment means the world to me. Really appreciate it!
Clear and simply focused approach... I like it. IMO, Soothe 2 being sort of expensive, but I do own Smart EQ3, which covers what Soothe does, as well as a lot more. Where I find myself getting lost is in if I am going to use Neutron or Smart EQ3, using both gets a bit CPU intensive. I also use both Ozone 9 and Smart Limit in my mastering chain... I love them both. Nectar is so great with vocals!
Soothe 2 is definitely really expensive, even when on sale. But it's really powerful and is a plugin that I'm using in more and more places.
You listed out a bunch of great plugins there too! Thanks for the feedback!
Hey, you mentioned Nectar for vocals. Could you guys please help me out. I'm a vocalist with no producer skills and no patience to learn mixing and mastering. I just want to do my vocals and have AI mix and/or master for me. I contacted Izotope and they recommended this Neutron, but I've also seen videos saying Nectar is the way to go for vocals. What do you guys think is the best way to go for a software that auto-mixes my vocals?
@@gregd9134 if you have both, you can either pick your poison or use both. Neutron’s exciter is a lot different than Nectar’s saturator as an example
@@VentureNW hey thanks for getting back so quick and sorry for my late reply, busy few days!
I've seen people saying that Nectar just does the same copy and paste every time and it's a scam, is it true?
Also, can these softwares mix the vocals, layers, etc together with the music track or only 1 at a time?
@@gregd9134 not sure what “everyone” is referring to, but you can tweak until your heart is content. It’s not a one thing fixes all. You can put it on a track or a bus, I haven’t used it on a master yet, but who knows
Awesome video. Considering getting this to add to my Ozone advanced. So with the levels, so do you not not use the ones in your DAW then?
Yeah that's pretty much what happens.
If you plan on automating volume than go ahead and use some kind of stock gain/volume plugin. For levels that are static, that's where you'd use Relay or Neutron and not worry about the levels in your DAW.
It takes a little getting used to but it works wonders.
@@ThisIsOnesto That sounds very strange and it threw me when I seen thsy part. Like I have templates with all my pans and stuff already set. So even pans are done through Neutron and are untouched in my DAW?
Do you have any other video where you can show where pans and the levels are set? When I seen that whole element it almost turned me off from buying it.
Good Video. I have a number of Izotope plugins, and am now starting to see some overlaps between them. I already have Neutron 3 Standard, so why would I need to upgrade to 4, when I also have Ozone 10 Advanced, as well as RX 10. Also have Nectar 3 Elements. Thanks. It appeared you also did your demo's in solo mode.
Thanks for watching! Based off what you already have, there's little reason for you to upgrade to 4. Neutron 3 Standard is pretty great already. Neutron 4 mainly has an updated workflow, the Unmask Module (however you can unmask in neutron 3, it's just a tad cumbersome), and a couple of other small upgrades. So if I were you, stick with Neutron 3.
And yes I did do my demos in solo mode. In hindsight I wish I had done them in the context of the mix. Still learning how to do this UA-cam thing.
Great video on a great product! I was wondering though if you wouldnt mind my asking if you would find it better to use it on each individual track or just toss it on the masterbus and click play? Im doing some weird Crywolf meets Kingdom Hearts meets Post-hardcore kind of stuff and so this seems like it could help alot but im just a little confused on how to go about it 😅
Your music project sounds amazing.
And I totally get the confusion. pretty much I like to put Neutron on instrument groups or my lead sounds. I don't put Neutron on one-shots, fxs, or elements that aren't essential. The biggest reason is to save on CPU usage and if you plan on using visual mixer, I like for visual mixer to analyze sounds that are heard throughout the track rather than something that just appears for a quick second. Hopefully this helps, and good luck on writing!
@@ThisIsOnesto thank you so much man! That's a good tip! This music production stuff gets MAD complicated .-.
Very helpful video dear thanks 🥰 I am so happy dear thanks again 😊
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
what a brilliantly simple interface. think you just sold me on this.
The interface on Neutron just keeps getting better with each update. You won’t be disappointed! And thanks for watching!
love the way you explain, great job
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it!
Cool video. Quick question. If I buy Neutron 4, do I still need Nectar 4?
That's a great question. I'll start by saying that the newest edition of Nectar is pretty great.
If you record and work with vocals, then I would recommend Nectar 4. If you use loops and vocal samples, then you can do with just Neutron 4.
The simplest way to explain both plugins is that Neutron 4 is a plugin that specializes in mixing and cleaning up all kinds of sound sources. Nectar 4 is specialized for only vocals, so it has some modules and capabilities that you won't find in Neutron.
Once again, to comes down to whether you're someone who works a lot with vocals.
The neutron 4 mothership goes on the Master and the Relays on each of the stems, correct? From there what would you suggest I do to sidechain my 808 bass to my kick, what neutron tool would I use in this case?
Hey, those are some great questions.
For your first question, if you're talking about using the visual mixer this is how I would go about it.
You can place the Neutron 4 mothership on any track you want. However, a track does not need Neutron 4 to be analyzed by the Visual mixer. Instead you can use Relay. Relay is good to use on those tracks where you don't want to use Neutron, but want to have that track analyzed by visual mixer. Relay is pretty much a gain slider, with a couple of other features like low pass filter, and mono/stereo switch.
On the Master is where you place Visual Mixer. you can then run the mix assistant in there to balance out the mix. Visual mixer will look for all the instances of Neutron 4 and Relay across your project, and balance amongst those. If you're still thinking about using Neutron on the Master, I'm sure you could do that, but I would recommend using Ozone from iZotope for the Master. It has tools specifically designed for mastering.
For sidechaining 808 to a kick, I would use the unmask module if you want a transparent sidechain. If you want an obvious pumping sidechain, use Neutron Compressor. You can use the unmask module for the pumping too, but I think it works better with the compressor.
Hope that all helps!
I know people (especially professionals) keep saying that Izotope is cheating and I should get Fabfilters but I'm a composer, not a mixing engineer, I also don't have any acoustic treatment in my room so Izotope for me is easier and cheaper than having to pay 500$ for a mix.. I will probably pay a mixing engineer in the future when I actually make good money with music but for now, Izotope is perfect for me.. I know how to mix without it, I actually don't use the assistant, just on the mix bus and I'll do some tweaking
That's exactly why I favor using iZotope products. I focus my time and energy on composing and sound design. Mixing is its own art/science, plus as you mentioned, you're listening environment plays a big role.
I hope you keep making some great music with Neutron 4. Thanks for watching!
As a mixing engineer, I would say there is no such thing as cheating. If it gets the same sound/result faster and can be repeated then by all means do it.
This was super helpful! Great video thank you!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
Does Nuetron 4 "listen" to the other tracks\mix to best ensure the changes it makes on the chosen track fit optimally in overall mix?
I’m gonna have to look into it. This looks interesting
Neutron is great, I still recommend it. And the updates from iZotope just keep getting better. It's kind of crazy.
Agree, neutron 4 has been great for getting a quick and dirty first pass…. Fine tuning later, but it really helps just getting ideas down quickly
Yeah! I really do think that's the best approach to have when using Neutron. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@@ThisIsOnesto I am wondering how well it might work with the Softube console 1 ecosystem. I *really* like that system (And the hands-on knobs and dials is a big win for me) so I'm loathe to give it up to go a new way. But if they can be combined? Thats an interesting prospect...
very helpful, thx u a lot
Nice! So happy to hear that this video could help. Thanks for watching!
I got this plugin today to use in my first ambient track and it did a great job at taming some highs and bringing some clarity to the overall mix. But it also removed some fullness (is that the right word?) Is there a way to bring back some depth, whether with neutron, or another FL Studio plugin?
That's a good question. There's a couple things I would try. It sounds like you could use the EQ module and try bumping up frequencies in the low-mid or mid range. Also try the Sculptor module and adjusting the tone control. I hope that gets you on the right path. And glad you're finding the plugin useful.
maybe it's my old ears but in both cases of before and after, I preferred your mixes.......
Thanks for this great video! All the demos of izotope software like Neutron and Ozone are showcasing electronic music w beats.
I make ambient Beatles music w acoustic instruments, synths, vocals and orchestral sample instruments for soundtrack vibes.
Do the presets and settings in there work well with non-standard pop or electronic tracks like my weird music?
Hey! Thanks for watching. I checked out your stuff and it's really interesting! I understand what you're saying about Neutron working well with your music. I haven't seen it paired with ambient-type music, and I'm so unfamiliar with it that I'm unsure where to direct you! I'm sorry, I wish I could be more helpful.
If I were you I would look at other YT vids that focus on mixing ambient music and see what plugins they use to treat it. Hopefully, that helps, and lovely music, by the way!
Aww thanks for the thoughtful response! I really appreciate it. and the kind words about my music. I'm laughing out loud literally as I look at my original comment with the obvious Beatles typo. I don't remember what word I was trying to get in there, hahah! My music is def not Beatles music.... Thanks again!
@@ThisIsOnesto
oh! Beatless... beat-less... haha!
@@JayaLove oh! makes so much more sense.
How do you use it on a single track without changing the global setting for the rest of the tracks
That's so crazy!!!! Amazing
Yeah, it's pretty great, thank's for watching!
are you using an instance of neutron on every track?
Thanks a lot.
Of course, thanks for checking out the video!
I like arrangement. Mixing and all the engineering stuff to me just seems time consuming and has such a steep learning curve and takes very little to mess up a song. I think I am more of a creator or an idea person vs an engineer. This sounds promising. I'm going to experiment with it. I hope it helps balances and carving out frequencies and non-essential data that is not allowing me to push maximizers and also allows me to get a more polished sound. Wish me luck!
That’s exactly how I feel about mixing. It’s such an important part of the process but it’s such a beast. I wish I could learn everything I could about mixing, but I’m only human. I think you’ll find Neutron 4 is great at getting your mix to a good starting point. It’s not gonna be perfect, but it is gonna be close and sometimes “good enough”.
Especially with Visual Mixer, I still use that all the time, even for small projects. It’s such a quick way to get a balanced mix.
Question do you use Vocal Rider? Does izotope have something like the vocal rider?
I don't use vocal rider, although I am familiar with that it does. The closest thing iZotope has is in Nectar, which is their vocal plugin. However, since i last used it, the vocal control in Nectar is a bit heavy handed. I always thought it made vocals sound too compressed and not too natural sounding.
So I'd stick with vocal rider
Hello. Super video. Two questions if I may. For visual mixer to work, does that mean all your channels must remain at volume 0 and centre? And do you need neutron on every channel within your track?
Those are good questions. For visual mixer to work you're correct. You want your channels to be at 0 and centered. If you want to do some volume adjustments while you're composing, I like to use a Utility stock plugin that can adjust volume. I also use that Utility plugin for volume automation.
And if you want visual mixer to find your channels you need to either upload Neutron or Relay (a utility plugin that comes with Neutron). I think it also picks up instances of Ozone too. If Neutron becomes too heavy of a plugin, then opt in with Relay since that's very light on CPU.
Do you use this for gain? Or do you apply gain after Neutron 4? Should we be setting the base volume for every track or let Neutron handle that?
That's a good question!
I'll use Neutron or Relay as my fader that remains static. Any gain plugin or tool that you plan on automating should be placed before Neutron.
And I usually let Neutron set the base volume for the main elements. When it comes to one-shots, ear candy, or anything that just shows up once and goes away, I'll set the base volume my self.
When I let Neutron/Visual Mixer take care of the main elements it usually does a great job.
This looks really helpful & timesaving, but as a software developer it seems quite silly relaying each track with a plugin just to automix? in another plugin. Will try this & am pretty sure this will be some standard in future DAWs :D
It is a bit of a clunky way to automix. I really hope that more DAWs just integrate the feature and get rid of that annoying step. The fortunate news is that it works and it's very light on the CPU.
@@ThisIsOnestoHave not tried the automix thingy yet, but wow! How it adjust the eq based on what instrument it identifies is a great reference point when producing out of the pocket stuff like some far out metal guitar. Can just fade back into my original sound until i find the sweetspot of something default that sits better in the mix but keeping my original sound that made the riff or song great 😮
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and great video
Believe me. My hair has been a project for many months now. I think it's finally starting to look good. But continue to send thoughts and prayers because my hair can go rogue at any minute.
And glad you liked the video!
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thanks
Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
Thanks
Thanks for watching!
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do you need to put this on the master when you're mixing your track?
You don’t need to put Neutron on the master channel. However, you do want to put the Visual Mixer on the Master channel.
I typically place Neutron on single channels of sounds that I find tricky to mix, and I also put it on instrument groups for things like percussion, synth stacks, and orchestral sounds.
So what do you do put this plug in on every track ? That will you lots of CPU I’m sure.
That's a great question.
I typically place Neutron on groups of instruments, or on my main sounds. That really helps limit how many instances of Neturon I use in a project.
For one-shots or elements that aren't too essential, I won't place Neutron on it, or I might put Relay (free-plugin that comes with Neutron) so that it can get detected with Visual Mixer.
Does it match volume after the extra processing it does?
There is a feature like that called "Auto Gain"
It's kind of hidden in the plugin but if you click the menu button (this cog in the top right), you'll find the option to enable Auto-Gain.
It's very handy, so be sure to check it out.
Wow Visual Mixer just made my life super easy. I can just focus on creating music
Nice! That's one of the wonderful things about visual mixer. It really does a "good enough" job. It is professional level? Prob not. But it gives you a solid result in less than a minute. So you can get back to creating music.
Awesome video
Thanks for watching, glad the video could help!
is this plugin to what application ? or this is stand alone software ?
Great question! Neutron 4 is not a stand alone plugin. It is a plugin suite that you upload in your DAW. Neutron 4 works with most major DAWs. You can also choose to upload an individual module as a plugin, or use the entire suite (iZotope calls that the mothership)
I have Neutron 3 Advanced, but never used it, because I don’t know how to use it correctly. Do I apply it to every track or only to the stereo out or whatever. Don’t know where to look for a beginner help for Neutron. So I don’t upgrade to 4 at the moment!
That's a great question. Even though you don't have Neutron 4, a lot of what I share in this video should help you learn how to use Neutron 3.
To answer your question, I'll tell you what I do. I like to use Neutron on my main tracks that I know are gonna be tricky to shape up. Usually that means, synths, piano, bass, strings, leads, and pads.
I usually don't use Neutron on FX tracks, or random tracks with a sample here or there. I feel that it doesn't help much and ends up being unnecessary. I also use Neutron on instrument groups like guitars, or percussion (minus kick and snare, I like to process those separately).
When placed on groups I'll sometimes try the presets before I try mix assistant. Especially when I feel like the group needs a lot of oomph, the presets can be kind of Effect-y.
Yeah that's pretty much how I use Neutron. Hopefully this helps!
Thanks so much for this detailed answer, I appreciate that very much. It's obviously a beginner's (like me) fate to think that he must have every plugin without knowing how to use it. At least it's true for me. But when I think of Peter Gabriel's CD "So", I "Don't Give up!"
For my abilities, the stock plug-ins from Logic would have sufficed for a long time!
@@vewilli I was 100% that beginner a few years ago. I accumulated so many plugins. I guess I was just really really excited about everything. Plugins are really inspiring tools, and music is inspiring too, so no wonder, why I wanted to own everything all at once.
You seem to see the wisdom in learning the basics at the beginning stages. The plugins will always be there. But learning those fundamentals is so crucial. once you have those finished songs, I think you'll be more proud of those versus owning every plugin suite imaginable haha!
@@ThisIsOnesto Thanks very much. Good tips/hints! Sooner or later I‘ll probably always use certain plugins which will only be a few. I’m a fan of Baby Audio, the CLA-Plugins, also iZotope Ozone, Soundtoys, and some more …
I shall see where I finally land …
am i supposed to use this plugin on master channel or on every channel with instruments?
Great question. I like to use Neutron on my main tracks that I know are gonna be tricky to shape up. Usually that means, synths, piano, bass, strings, leads, and pads.
I usually don't use Neutron on FX tracks, or random tracks with a sample here or there. I feel that it doesn't help much and ends up being unnecessary. I also use Neutron on instrument groups like guitars, or percussion (minus kick and snare, I like to process those separately).
When placed on groups I'll sometimes try the presets before I try mix assistant. Especially when I feel like the group needs a lot of oomph, the presets can be kind of Effect-y.
I don't. use Neutron on the master channel. I would recommend using iZotope Ozone for the master channel.
Yeah that's pretty much how I use Neutron. Hopefully this helps!
how do i mix the entire track fast? Thanks so much for your response :D@@ThisIsOnesto
Thanks, ;-)
You're welcome! Thanks for the support.
Do you use on every track?
Great question. I like to use Neutron on individual tracks that I know are gonna be tricky and I think I need the extra help.
I usually don't use Neutron on FX tracks, or random tracks with a sample here or there. I feel that it doesn't help much and ends up being unnecessary.
I also use Neutron on instrument groups like guitars, or percussion (minus kick and snare, I like to process those separately). When placed on groups I'll sometimes try the presets before I try mix assistant. Especially when I feel like the group needs a lot of oomph, the presets can be kind of Effect-y.
Yeah that's pretty much how I use Neutron. Hopefully this helps!
Ayeee, shout out to Bitwig fam!!
Yoooooooo!! I always feel like a Bitwig Orphan, but whenever I meet another Bitwig user, it's such a good feeling.
@@ThisIsOnesto Indeed, usually nobody knows wtf is Bitwig when they ask me which DAW I use haha.
@@denmilli My answer is always, "I use bitwig, it's like an Ableton clone. " and people kind of get it after that hahaha
so neutron 4 doesn't pan? and doesn't do a stereo mix for you, that is one of the only parts you need to do on your own... is the panning?
In my experience, Neutron 4 does not do the panning for you. My guess is that panning can be more of a subjective thing while gain staging is a little more objective.
That's only my guess on the rationale there,.
idk, ive tried out neutron & it sounds really bad on a lot of the mixes i used. way too compressed & sharp on the high end. and the AI mixer is completely useless. plus it causes a huge latency delay whenever i use it on an individual stem, which means I've got to re-export all the instruments i use it on then put it back in to make it play on-time. if you are a beginner and haven't learned a lot of mixing techniques then ig its fine, but id try to learn to do it manually in my opinion.
So.. what’s up with that haircut? Anyways thanks a lot, great, quick video. Good job, I may buy Neutron 4 to seperate my guitar from my bass.
Ugh I know, my hair. I was trying to figure myself out. Fortunately my wife helped steer me towards a much better haircut. I'm trying to go for a Isildur from the new Lord of the Rings show, but make it a little modern.
Oh, and if you're thinking of getting Neutron 4 to separate guitar from bass, also consider Trackspacer from Wavesfactory. That's also a really easy plugin to use for separating sounds and eliminating masking transparently.
That intro sounded like I. The Worst Guys
I love that track, thanks for the compliment
Al inicio: Por que el piano con EQ más brillante es mejor que lo original? No tiene sentido.
Crazy hair bruh
I was going through a lot at the time, I think I just took it out on my hair.
Hi, appreciate the video, but what you call "drums" is not drums in the way the algorithm is working. that's why you get the "other" its a percussive sound not drums. And applying a "drum" preset maybe not the right way to go. thx
I just took another listen to my demo, and I think you're right. That example is more percussive, so I guess Neutron 4 identified it correctly! Thanks for the feedback.
@@ThisIsOnesto thx, I am glad you didn't took it the wrong way. :)
@@ThompaThelin Of course not! If someone sees something I may have missed, then I always want to hear them out.
Constructive feedback is crucial for any kind of creative process, so thanks for helping!
@@ThisIsOnesto thats soo true , stay the same my friend :)
I wish these demo's would use real music to show how the program works. All those midi instruments sound like crap TO ME before and after the plugin.
I think you're right, ideally I would/should get recordings of real instruments for the demos. Unfortunately, these MIDI instruments and samples are all I had to work with at the time. I'm hoping that as I get better at teaching, I can find examples that show the capabilities of the plugin in a better way. Maybe for Neutron 5?
I like the sound before! After the process piano started to sound bright and harsh…no warmth way too sharp, I dont like it. Tried using Ozone 10 master assistant, sounds way too bright not pleasant sounding, there is a difference ofcourse but its not a good kinda difference! They just trying to sell the product by making it bright and shiny! Not everything that bright and shiny is a gold or a diamond!😂 not everything that shines is a sun! I go fishing occasionally and most of the time fish bites on things that shine, you can catch a fish on an empty hook as long as it shines, but it does not mean that the hook is a food for the fish. Same here, they just wanna sell you a product. Have you ever seen any legit producers mixers with grammies mixing with these plugins?😂
That is not what drums sound like! It sounds like my kid hitting pots and pans!
Looks like hes wearing someone elses hair on his head. hahaha
It honestly does...ugh. I was trying to grow my hair out to try to look cool or whatever. Still growing my hair out, but now it looks like I'm more of a well-adjusted human being.
Not a good review.
Dang, sorry to hear that. I usually try my best at these videos, but it looks like I may have missed the mark in some ways. Hopefully I keep growing as a presenter so if you happen to come across another video, you'll find it more insightful and helpful. Happy holidays!
Wow, I'm really impressed with how bad your demonstrations were!
Your original piano was warmer and real, Neutron made it brittle and worse. Then trying to match another piano, it failed completely!
When you processed the bass a kick, that too had a poor result.
Absolutely everything you were trying to accomplish could be done with a good EQ, like FabFilter Pro-Q 3 or equivalent.
The ducking feature is way better than this neutron crap!
Just use your friggin' ears and a good EQ and you'll be done in seconds!
In a way, you just showed people what not to do.
No offence, just FYI
Hey, sorry to have epically failed you, and thanks for clearly laying out how you think these demos sucked.
Although I give each video my best, I know that they are far from being the best examples of what a great plugin can do.
What I can promise you is that I'll do what I can to keep growing as a producer and demonstrator, so hopefully sometime in the future you won't be disappointed again.
@@ThisIsOnesto .
It's not exactly your fault. Izotope software is really tricky. They have great marketing and stellar interface designs,
but under the hood is really shoddy algorithms and crappy computations.
Your examples demonstrate how off they are.
They're mastering tools are the most damaging to music. Beginners fall for this stuff.
You're doing a fine job with your camera, lighting, screen capture and overall presentation.
And I understand you can't just be bagging on companies that you might hope to one day get sponsored.
It might be nice to mention how this tool maybe could help beginners, but just some clever EQ and ducking will probably produce better results.
Just a thought.
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Go to barber. Not easy to watch guy with such greasy hair..It is a bit tasteless.
Hahaha! If you dislike my hair that much in this video, just wait till you see it in this one: ua-cam.com/video/pNHC84P5zHU/v-deo.html
@@ThisIsOnesto Holy s... :D :D :D I've just got my breakfast!