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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- @ApostateProphet is a learned Ex-Muslim who focuses on factual and fair criticism of his former religion, relying on experience, knowledge, reasoning, and humor.
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The comments section is absolutely fascinating. It is filled with devout Islamic believers giving the exact same arguments as Christians do, completely unaware of the overlap.
Amen, right?
Muslims hate Christianity so much, not realising they follow a Christian cult called Islam....
All devouted religious people are the same , since they chose to not use their brain andlet an old book do the work for them instead
I don't know about the comments about i find the overlap pretty much fascinating as a Muslim.
Actually very few Muslims in the comments for now.... Maybe more will come.....
AP is largely a non entity ....
He and his apostates have largely lost all their debates..... and generally become a laughing stock .....
and they've become a frustrated attention seeking little community.....
Love from Pakistan
❤️❤️❤️❤️
@IBRAHIM Nasir Mujhe ghanta fark nai parta
@IBRAHIM Nasir besides govts apas main larti hain to is main awam kyun zaleel ho
@@horridcreep6340 puree awam atheist bane gey ek soh saal mein. Inshallah.
@@Anon-zb5op 😀
Great stuff dude. Im an Egyptian ex Muslim and really enjoyed your content
Good luck on your path. The truth has no path it just is.
@thegreen iguana no not anymore!
Be careful.. isn’t apostasy still punishable by death in Egypt?
@@Ditka-89 I'm not in Egypt anymore though 😉
@@thenun1846 very good to hear!
Genghis Khan said to muslim “I am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.”
Also, nearly all Mongols ended up converting to Islam in the end, starting with Genghis's Khan's grandson Berke
@@km0262 no. It was only elites to better control sheeple population. Common soldiers were never religious. Nomads except jew/arabs are always irreligious.
@@KonaUte Nope that’s not true. Most of the populous outside of China were Muslim. For example genghis, gave his son Jochi to the west to rule, he have him 4,000 mongol officers and 400,000 Muslim Turkomen tribesmen.
@@KonaUte Jochi’s son genghis khan’s grandson converted to Islam through Saif ud-din Dervish and became the first Mongal ruler to convert. Other leaders converted due to the influence Muslims had or due to other trusted comrades that were Muslim.
Attila the Hun said basically the same thing to Catholic monks.
Ok, just subscribed to ApostateProphet. And one thing, around minute 53 you ask about where these ideas for islam originally came from. Dr. Carrier says in one of his vids that he suspects it actually arose as an offshoot of the original Torah-observant sect of Christianity -- with Halal being an evolved form of Kosher. Their creations stories seem almost the same as well.
James Valliant has a similar view
@@Mr.Witness Will look that up. Thanks for the info!
Read In the Shadow of the Sword by Tom Holland
It's an eye-opener on early Islam
@@Mr_Stav Will have a look. Thanks!!
Thats plausible, if you want more info on this also check out Hagarism by Patricia Crone
Tiktok is Chinese owned.
Given the Chinese government's stance on muslim members of their population, I'd hazard to guess that AP could avoid the double standards of other platforms there.
Maybe not the greatest of circumstances all things considered.
But any port in a storm I guess.
@@blankname5177 I'm not sure what you mean.
What a great conversation, pleasure to see this video. Thank you
Love and follow both channels. This is awesome and so important! Also glad youtube doesn't follow in the footsteps of twitter, fb and so on.
AP is one of the most considered, calm, knowledgeable apostates out there. Always speaking with deliberation but also aware that many of the apologists in the Muslim community are infantile bullies - even more so than in the Christian south. In the Christian US apologists will present absurd beliefs or belittle science. In Islamic apologist circles they tend instead to try to turn of the Mics of speakers at debates or ambush people in call-ins. He always amazes me when faced with such idiotic and juvenile antics.
I agree
The Mind Trap is home in any religion. Absurd concepts and beliefs require blind faith. and culture arises from the consensus of like minded.
@@MythVisionPodcast Derek this channel usually has doctors or scholars on… will you have an Islamic scholar on the show next? Maybe like sheikh uthman, Omar sulieman, hamza Yusuf, or mufti menk?
Thanks
@Dharma Defender just wanted to see if Derek would have a doctor/professor level person who has studied Islam on the channel next. What’s the problem?
@@NeoLegendX wasn't much of a debate, AP only exposed that fat pikatchu agrees about apostasy laws and kiddie fiddling by your profet!
Great guest. Been following him on and off for at least 2 years when social media doesn't ban him unfortunately.
I have a lot of respect for Apostate Prophet . . . very well done !
shit tends to be attracted to shit
This was good to watch! I’ll have to check out ur channel now!
I have been following Apostate Prophet, Abdullah Seemer/the Two Abdullahs and Urdu The Free thinker. I have learned a lot from these brothers and I have experienced their channels been either stopped or been on notice, for no apparent reasons. Thanks Derek.
Very informative and interesting episode. Thank you guys!
Want to learn more about Islam.
At last, a counter Islam video. For a minute there I was begining to think you were petrified of this topic :-)
Absolutely not petrified of this topic. I usually don't discuss things I'm ignorant about. I plan on discussing all of this more.
@@MythVisionPodcast No worries. I would dare you to bring on an Islamic Apologist such as Mohamed Hijab, to debate one of your regular athiest guests. That would be awesome.
I dare the Musms to do it first. Only then will they desrve any respet to be even talked about. Yes, I had to edt this so yotooop would not cencsor even just this, which they did attempt to so I had to make a 2nd comuentt
@@MythVisionPodcast yet you're constantly barking about Christianity, which you're indeed ignorant of. Especially Calvinism. You were never saved. Boy, bye.
@@jesussaves4317
Christianity is BS. It isn't saving anyone!
People who are free thinkers will always have issues with organized religions because you realize alot of it is man made.
You're videos are really good, btw. 🙂
Man made what does that even mean exactly.
Freeeeeethinkurz are all programmed dogs that get controlled by their Marxist masters.
What's a "free thinker"?
XD you don't think freely, that's the thing. You're a Marxist concubine and it's funny. Pathetic ,but funny.
That sound's like the pot calling the kettle.
The vikings were from the wasteland and they came down to make kingdoms and empires.
The mongols came out of the desert wastelands and made the largest land empire in history.
Why would the Arabs, pushing out of their desert to make an empire, need the magic of the creator?
Forcing a religion on the world alongside the empire had much more lasting effects than the mongols and the vikings. Ultimately the caliphates fell apart the same as the mongol empire and the viking kingdoms though.
A King wants to control the people. He goes to the priests and says. Get these rats under control or it will be your head. The priests do it and belief takes hold. The King no longer needs the Priests Just keep the belief going give them anything they want to believe. Use the media to pump the divisions. Society is born, the King rakes in the cash. The suckers fight. No one thinks about the King. Perfect con.
Just a correction my friend. The biggest land empire was the British Empire
@@Artemidia Nope, that's the Mongol empire.
@@faarsight British Empire 35,5 million km2, Mongol Empire 24 million km2
@@Artemidia "The Mongol Empire existed during the 13th and 14th centuries and it is recognized as being the largest contiguous land empire in history. It of course originated in Mongolia and once stretched from Eastern Europe to the Sea of Japan, extending into the Indian subcontinent and the Middle East, covering 9.27 million square miles. "
I love both of you, and couldn't wait for this, can't believe I almost forgot!
Auzubillahi minnashshaitaannirrajiim
Bismillahirrahamanirrahiiim
Say: ‘O People of the Book, come to that matter which is common between us and you (namely that): we shall worship none other than Allah, and we shall not associate any partner with Him. Nor shall anyone of us take one another as Lords apart from Allah. Then if they turn away, say: Bear witness that we are but Allah’s obedient servants (Muslims).’
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 64])
O People of the Book! Why do you dispute about Ibrahim ([Abraham] i.e., why do you regard him as a Jew or a Christian])? The truth is that the Torah and the Injil ([the Gospel] on which both your religions are based) were sent down after his time. Have you not even (this much) sense?
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 65])
Listen! You are the people who have also been disputing about matters of which you had (but some) knowledge. But why do you dispute about things of which you have no knowledge (at all)? And Allah knows but you do not know.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 66])
Ibrahim (Abraham) was neither a Jew nor a Christian; he was a (true) Muslim, far detached from all heresy and falsehood. Nor was he one of the polytheists.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 67])
Certainly, the nearest of the people to Ibrahim (Abraham), (and the most deserving) are those who have followed him (in his Din [Religion]). And (they) are no other than this Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) and those who have believed (in him). And Allah is the Helper of the believers.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 68])
(O Muslims!) A section of the People of the Book (intensely) desire to, somehow, lead you astray, but they have led astray only themselves whilst they have no sense (of it).
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 69])
O People of the Book! Why are you denying Allah’s Revelations whilst you bear witness yourselves (i.e., you have read everything in your Books)?
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 70])
O People of the Book! Why do you confound the truth with falsehood, and why do you hide the truth whereas you know?
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 71])
And a section of the People of the Book say (to the people): ‘Believe in the Book (Qur’an) which is sent down to Muslims in the morning, and deny it in the evening, so that (imitating you) they may also desert and turn about.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 72])
And do not believe anyone but him who follows (only) your din (religion).’ Say: ‘Surely, the guidance is but the guidance of Allah (alone).’ (And they further say to their people never to believe even this) that: ‘The like of the Book (or din [religion]) given to you may also be given to anyone else, or that someone may give a plea against you before your Lord.’ Say: ‘Bounty is in the Hand of Allah; He bestows on whom He pleases and Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 73])
He specifies His mercy for whom He wills and Allah is the Lord of Infinite Bounty.’
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 74])
And amongst the People of the Book there are a type that if you trust him with a heap of wealth, he will return it to you. And some amongst them are such that if you trust him with one dinar (a gold coin), he will not return it to you unless you keep standing over him. That is because they say: ‘There is no blame on us in the matter of the illiterate.’ And they fabricate a lie against Allah and they know it themselves (as well).
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 75])
Yes, he who fulfils his promise and adopts Godfearingness (will indeed face no accountability); so Allah surely loves the pious.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 76])
Certainly, those who sell the promise of Allah and their own oaths for a small price, it is they who will not have any share in the Hereafter. And on the Day of Resurrection Allah will neither speak to nor look at them, nor will He purify them, and for them will be painful torment.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 77])
And there is indeed another section of them who, whilst reciting the Book, twist their tongues so that you may take their inverted expression as (part of) the Book, whereas it is not from the Book. And they say: ‘It is (all) from Allah,’ while it is not (at all) from Allah. They invent a lie against Allah and they know (it) themselves as well.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 78])
No human being whom Allah blesses with the Book and Wisdom and Prophethood has the right to say to the people: ‘Be my servants instead of Allah’s.’ (He would rather say:) ‘Be the devotees of Allah because you teach the Book and because you study it yourselves as well.’
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 79])
Nor would that Messenger ever command you to take the angels and the Prophets as Lords. Would he command you (now) to disbelieve after you have become Muslims?
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 80])
And, (O Beloved, recall) when Allah took a firm covenant from the Prophets: ‘When I give you the Book and Wisdom, and then there comes to you the Messenger (who is exalted in glory above all and) who shall validate the Books you will have with you, you shall then, most certainly, believe in him and most surely help him.’ Allah said: ‘Do you affirm, and on this (condition) hold fast to My heavy covenant?’ All submitted: ‘We affirm.’ Allah said: ‘Bear witness then, and I am also with you amongst the witnesses.’
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 81])
(Now admonished all mankind:) ‘Then he who turns away after this (affirmation), it is they who will be the disobedient.’
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 82])
Do they seek some din (religion) other than Allah’s? And whoever is in the heavens and the earth has embraced His obedience (whether) by choice or by constraint, and to Him shall they all be returned.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 83])
Say: ‘We believe in Allah and in that which has been sent down to us and in that which has been revealed to Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma‘il (Ishmael), Ishaq (Isaac) and Ya‘qub (Jacob) and their descendants and that which has been given to Musa (Moses), ‘Isa (Jesus) and all other Messengers by their Lord (we believe in all). We do not make distinction in our faith in any of them, and to Him we submit ourselves.’
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 84])
And whoever seeks a din (religion) other than Islam that shall not at all be accepted from him, and he will be amongst the losers in the Hereafter.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 85])
How shall Allah guide those who disbelieved after embracing faith whilst they had borne witness that this Messenger is true, and clear signs too had come to them? And Allah does not guide the wrongdoers.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 86])
The punishment of such people is that they are continually plagued by the curse of Allah, of the angels and of all mankind.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 87])
They shall remain (imprisoned) under this curse forever. And neither will this torment be lessened, nor will they be given respite,
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 88])
Except those who repent and mend (their) ways. Allah is, indeed, Most Forgiving, Ever-Merciful.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 89])
I love most of the guests you have on, but this was the most informative guest in terms of me knowing something now about a topic on which I knew nothing but a few stereotypes. Mostly of the apologetic type like “Muslim is cool with other Abrahamic faiths”. Feel way more informed now!! When I get home the first thing I plan to do is Google the context in which Muhammad invented the Quran over those 20 years. Guessing they weren’t faring so well if the concept of “Don’t worry if Islam is losing because you’ll win in the afterlife” is baked in there. Actually, that’s the second thing I plan to do. The first thing I plan to do is follow his channel.
The reason why we do not have more Christian fundamentalists threatening people is because of our predominantly secular legal system. This is why separation of church and state is very important. We have and have had violent fundamentalists in our history.
I would say we do not have them because Christians already have major control and a more peaceful religion
Name 3 Christan violent fundamentalist
I can seriously relate to your guest because I asked myself the same questions about the Seventh Day Adventistism after being a member for years! Derek do a history on that religion as well!
Great guest.
Ok Derek… I like you a lot, but you are poking the Bear with this video! Stay safe … LOL
That bear needs more than a poke.
32:00 well spoken
Wow! It never occurred to me that open debate about Islam is forbidden on social media. I was personally "scared straight" away from Islam as a child, the first time I heard the expression: "Converted by the sword."
Best Video yet! Awesome STUFF!!!
I think a more realistic argument for the growth of empires could be made. In the case of the Arabs, what actually happened is, as each region was added to the empire, its population was added to the available manpower pool. When Egypt was converted to Islam, the Rashidun Caliphate gained millions of adherents. It was the same with Rome (as with all empires). When Rome conquered Etruria, the power of Etruria was added to Rome, etc. Consider the Ottomans ... a small tribe enters and settles in western Anatolia and eventually becomes a huge empire. As the Seljuk Turks in Asian Minor were slowly absorbed by the Ottomans, they also became Ottoman. It is not so simple, of course, because ethnic identities are also retained. The Egyptians stayed being Egyptians, but they also took on a new identity when they were conquered by the Caliphate.
Hey Derek, that’s so cool that you’ve been to Kuwait!!!! I’m Kuwaiti and you’re always most welcome here.
"I shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve"-Quran 3:151-please watch pfander podcast,
Kinda like hell.
@@Hashishin13Exactly That is how terror comes about. They're right(eous) and your wron (unrighteous)g Kill them all. A House(mind) in disorder cannot come to the father.(peace of mind). Belief is the trap(con) The believer is the Mark.
H Zoonka
Have you really studied this verse in its correct context. Before you got carried away by passionately frequenting the anti Islamic websites, did you research when these words were revealed......and to who it was revealed to......and which battle in history it was revealed. ???
@@buzzwordy9951
I posed a question to H Zoonka. Let's wait for his / her answer.
@Dharma Defender
I asked the question to H. ZOONKA. .......but thanks for trying. You failed horribly. You can try again, while I wait for H ZOONKA who bravely made the original comment. Let's wait.....
There are good and bad people everywhere, in all religions, but you cannot find scriptures supporting violence in Buddhism and Jainism. This is a big difference with Abrahamic religions.
Yeah true. But Japan, Vietnam, Korea, Myanmar and Rohingya. We Buddhists have little to be smug about. The Hindu texts are our OT, and not all so peaceful.
All one needs is good rock under a tree to sit on and a mind that can ask what is this? The answer will come from deep inside. No need to believe any one else. Buddhism is close but still caught up in traditions and ritual. I reject any path to the truth. K says Truth is a pathless land. Truth is the "what is."
@Dharma Defender As soon as you plant a garden you will need to defend it.
@@buzzwordy9951 With K you mean Krishnamurti, don't you?
@@buzzwordy9951 not true. An individual may choose to take care of a garden and not consider it his o her property.
I really looooveeee the cartoon intro.... very clever👏👏👏👏👏👏👌👌👌👌👌👌
When I feel anxious, I like to listen to your theme alternating with those lovely strings at the end of every MSNBC piece over and over again while repeating the mantra: "This is who we are."
Really great podcast - thank you!
If you want funding, get Richard Carrier and Joseph Atwill to duke it out!
I'd love to see both of those shows!
This channel is a subtle nuclear bomb.
1:02:00 Interesting that the Quran's Surahs are organized by size. Perhaps the compilers of the Surahs used the same strategy as they copiers of the Buddhists scriptures, which were first put into three baskets (Tripitaka) then organized by length, eg. "middle-length discourses" (Majjhima Nikaya)
Just want to chime in, thanks so much for your work!! I just recently discovered your channel and have been hooked since. Love how you're getting the ex Muslim perspective on things.
Wow very eye opening!! Great episode
1:21:36 The Christian reformists were little nicer. In Sweden in 1608 the law of Moses was enacted and bible was used as a law book. Also reformation bought witch trials. When people talk of reformation they actually mean enlightenment that came 200 years later in the 18th century.
Enlightenment was very much a product of reformation
@@universalflamethrower6342 I think the printing press of Guttenberg allowed the reformation, the 2 happening about the same time. The printing press was a major revolution is propagating ideas very much like the internet today.
@@PeterGregoryKelly the printing press undoubtedly helped spread the message of maarten Luther, but it was not the press, like today social media favors certain ideologies but not everyone is susceptible to them
As an ex ‘brand Muslim’ myself I was particularly interested in this podcast.
It didn’t disappoint although I do have some differences from a female and ‘convert’ perspective. I found MUCH of this guy’s experience is CULTURAL NOT theological. He also fails to make a distinction between the Hadith and Quran.
I grew up an atheist and ‘became Muslim’ so my rationales for joining and leaving are somewhat different. (Mine are mostly academic and resonate more closely with Biblical criticism (Quranic criticism).
This guy has had more of a ‘traditional exit’ from a ‘cultural norm’ as someone who did not grow up with critical thinking. (Turkish religious education) It would be interesting to examine those who grow up in secular societies (Turkey is not truly Secular) WITH critical thinking and become Muslim.
Not critiquing this lovely guy but there are much more complex journeys and perspectives. I hope you make the effort to reach out and hear them or else this podcast just reinforces the ‘stereotypical’ western understandings of Islam that continue our ignorance in not REALLY appreciating the issues presented by the current Islamic milieu.
The Apostate Prophet grew up in Germany, as he freely admits in the vid
He was also super religious for at least 5 years, also in the video...
@@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow
Arabs didn't conquer most Europe
Only Sicily & Spain, if you consider Moors to be Arabs, which they are not
Turks did conquer Greece & the Balkans tho
@@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow
I'm sorry Tacos,
But by my account, your ideas are so far away from reality, that I can't agree with anything you write.
Be well!
AP critiques western Muslim converts on his channel. Also I find it hard to believe that anyone with critical thinking would convert to Islam, or any other religion.
@@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow it might be true that Muhammad was an ‘Arab’ and the Quran is also written in Arabic but ALL abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are ‘SEMITIC’ originating from the Middle East and the Semitic people. Over two millennia they have then been dispersed and modified across the cultures they have infected. Parts have remained whilst other elements have become unrecognisable. You only need to observe the confused theological mess of Muslims in Mali mixing Voodoo in their practices or the Christians of Nigeria to understand that the ‘theological’ appreciation of a religion is often FAR FAR away from the cultural experiences.
You could also ‘secularise’ this and look at the so called ‘communist capitalism’ of China to realise that ‘labels rarely mean ANYTHING!
Therefore you spent MANY MANY sentences making a rather erroneous point that can apply to all ideologies, narratives/myths across all of time.
My interest is in the theological and philosophical. Whilst I might have enjoyed ‘mint tea and bakalawa’ it never made me Muslim from a theological perspective. Nor did I ever give my loyalty to any ‘Arab’, which in itself is a nonsensical point as most of my experiences were of Berber origin. It is also most certainly NOT taught theologically within Islam that anything other than a ‘monotheistic’ entity should be worshipped. It is considered Idol worship to give special attention to any ‘man’. (Although it is true that many Muslims (like Christians) have become worshippers of the prophet Muhammad. (Again cultural rather than theological).
Nor do your observations fully appreciate the cultural diversity of over 1.6billion Muslims from over 200 countries across the globe.
After 22years of associating with Muslims from all over the world (from North Africa, South east Asia, Indonesia and China) I have been fascinated to discern the cultural v’s theological kaleidoscopes of how Islam is interpreted at the local levels.
As for dress and clothing. It’s true that just like the communists in China had a uniform or you could even suggest the ‘suited and booted’ of Wall Street dress to belong to a tribe, these observations are also irrelevant to the topic at hand which is ‘what are the core teachings of Islam’?
From your remarks it is clear you have never read the Quran in Arabic or English. I have done both and this has been the most educational process in terms of understanding the religion and being able to discern it from the usual cultural messes that most ideologies become caught up in.
Derek we definitely need to talk
AP is completely right here. If you criticize Christianity you'll maybe upset a few believers but likely nothing serious will come of it. Same with Judaism. Same with Hinduism, or Buddhism. But the moment you criticize islam, not only will you get massive hate from muslims, but from 'skeptics' as well because this poor religion of hate, suppression and violence should apparently be exempt from criticism because.... reasons.
@@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow jesus was brown, what's your point?
@@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow is that evidence for god? I'd be interested if you could demonstrate this very brown Palestinian jew 'yeshua ben yousseff' existed and was a kinda magician/god thing.
Not overly interested in politics, just fighting against the stupid beliefs of religious folk and flat earthers
@@j7bsecond540 "just fighting against the stupid beliefs of religious folk"
Everyone is religious, so you're fighting against yourself I guess.
@@Nidair nope, you're projecting to feel less stupid, I'm not religious - I was, but no more.
Is your magical belief a comfort for you?
@@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow " the god concept was created by very savvy men who used god to gain power over others "
No, the concept of gods predates all civilizations.
"the ONE reason why the god's died out is because modern government has replaced the gods with the ballet box"
Gods died out? Since when? The vast majority of the world still holds to a belief in at least one god.
"ONE can't have a nation & build an empire with out a god."
Tell that to Mao Zedong. He built up his empire banning all mentions of a god. In the worst way possible but still...
"the Arabs invented the Arabic god for the same Reason the Jewish Tribe invented the Jewish god."
Wrong, the Yahweh character predates the jewish people, and the Allah character evolved from Yahweh
"Muslims like all people of faith are the same way this is why it's hard to reason with people of faith because of this problem god wants what his tribe wants ."
No, islam is problematic because its teachings are hateful, oppressive, bigoted, intolerant, and violent. Not every religion is equal. You won't find anything equally vile in the Dao Te Ching for example. Only islam is this much of a problem. Accept it, and don't tolerate this awful religion in any form.
How does someone respond to your comment concerning religion I mean really let me ask you what system
Of government do you hole heartedly support and how do you define government ?
Capitalism the unknown ideal by Ayn Rand.
@@Mr.Witness the unknown ideal is imploding socially culturally and morally as we speak its decomposing if you can’t see it you can surely smell it
@@lorenzochimelis7359 its unknown because it has never been explicitly achieved all you se around you is a product of rejecting that ideal. Read the book.
@@Mr.Witness I have no need of reading the book I judge the reality that I see that I feel that is real and ideal is simply the potential of achieving optimum operation and return
Something as elusive as us achieving perfection the ideal is not the end game but the power of the pursuit to sustain achievement
This always disturbs me why is Allah so much insecure of his position as Almighty ; that he considers any other worhsip apart from him suitable for an Eternal Hell..This God sounds Egoist ; Jealous ; Insecure to me...but as per One Suprme God of Vedas ; God says who worhship other Gods also worship him in Worng way and God says he is one who makes their Faith steady because as per Vedic Religon God is very open hearted and Free of all forms of hate and Envy and jealousy.. ..this makes more sense to me ...And God of Vedas is more interested in Relationship than Sectarian Religon..he is more interested in our Purity than our Rituals..
The Western monotheistic traditions frequently depict God to be jealous; he forbids the worship of any other gods and even approves the destruction of their places of worship.
In contrast, the Bhagavad-gita reveals a God who is not jealous but is zealous. Krishna as God is concerned not about guarding his position as the exclusive object of worship, but about facilitating the spiritual evolution of everyone. Knowing that some spiritually under-evolved people won’t be ready to worship him, he arranges for them to worship other gods - a worship that can serve as a starting spur for the spiritual journey of those souls.
Krishna as God is concerned not about guarding his position as the exclusive object of worship, but about facilitating the spiritual evolution of everyone.
Souls in their spiritual kindergarten, by acknowledging the need to worship some being greater than themselves, begin the process for kindling the mood of devotion towards the Supreme. Krishna assists them by strengthening their faith in the demigods (07.21) and by empowering the demigods to bless according to that faith (07.22). Nowhere in the Gita does Krishna endorse violent intolerance towards other gods - a defining feature of the jealous God.
No doubt, Krishna unambiguously describes his supreme position as the source of all the gods (10.02). And he also unequivocally urges everyone to give up all other forms of worship and surrender to him alone (18.66).
Does this call demonstrate his jealousness?
No, it too demonstrates his zealousness, albeit in a different, more direct way.
This call expresses Krishna’s compassionate desire that souls who are ready to worship him return to him as quickly as possible by taking the best path for their spiritual growth: the path of pure devotional service to him.
Thus, both in arranging for the worship of other gods and in endorsing his exclusive worship, Krishna demonstrates the same zealousness for others’ elevation - a zealousness customized according to their level of receptivity.
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Khalid Umar
FOR MY MUSLIM FRIENDS - AN INVITATION FOR INTELLECTUAL ENQUIRY
QURAN VS BHAGVAT-GITA
When it comes to religious matters, there are always debates and discussions as to which is the perfect religion that guides towards salvation and teaches one to be a perfect human being. Presenting facts about religion is a tough task as most of them try to hide the shortcomings of one's religion. But what is not to be forgotten is truth cannot be hidden and by some means it will prove its existence.
There are much arguments about Quran and Bhagavad Gita, considering there complete contradictory nature. Muslims have always argued that the Quran is the only path to see God, while Hindus believe that attaining salvation (moksha) is equivalent to seeing God which can be achieved by developing good deeds.
HOLY QURAN
1. Quran says: Islam is the only true religion. The God gets upset when one “sets up partners in worship with Him” (Quran, 4:116).
2. Only those who believe in Quran can go to heaven. And there is no place than hell for Kafirs (non-believers). Allah punishes people those who worship other Gods which is described in the words….“Lâ ilâha illa Huwa” (No one should be worshiped other than Allah) (Quran, 6:102).
3. Quran describes Muslims are the only rightful people and raised for mankind (Quran, 3:110). Heaven is the ultimate goal of life and every man should try to get it in their life.
4. Quran says followers needs to fear him and if followed, he will grant reward (Quran 65.5). It also describes that every Muslim should perform 5 times prayer, go to Haj, if not, ready to face fire in hell. The book also says, “Unless I proclaim what I receive from Allah and His Messages: for any that disobey Allah and His Messenger,- for them is Hell: they shall dwell therein for ever.” (Quran 72.23)
5. Quran says, that Muslims must obey Allah and his guidance and anyone who intends to follow other religion will never be accepted (Quran 3.85).
NOW LETS US LOOK AT WHAT BHAGAVAT GITA SAYS…
1. Bhagavad Gita doesn’t believe in self centered attitude. The Lord says, I am in everyone’s heart as a soul. “As soon as one desires to worship some demigod, I make his faith steady so that he can devote himself to that particular deity.” (Bhagavad-Gita, 7:21).
2. Gita mentions that there is only one God, but people see him in different forms (Bhagavad-Gita, 7:22).
3. The Gita says “He is a perfect yogi who, by comparison to his own self, sees the true equality of all beings, in both their happiness and their distress, O Arjuna!” (Bhagavad-Gita, 6:32). It says Karma will decide ones fate and religion, heaven and hell has no meaning in Gita.
4. Krishna says, do not fear me, do your duties and your work will protect you ever (Bhagavad Gita 18.66).
5. Krishna says, I envy no one, nor am I partial to anyone. I am equal to all. But whoever renders service unto Me in devotion is a friend, is in Me, and I am also a friend to him.(Bhagavad Gita 9.29).
6. Gita allows free thinking, All activities should be performed without attachment or expectations and as performed as duty from whole heart, That is My opinion, says Krishna (Bhagavad Gita 18.6). By saying That is my opinion, he allows free thinking and allows people to decide what is right or wrong.
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@@thenun1846 the nun…the myth, the legend! My man!
@@MM-oj8vb haha my dude!
The Swedish church got to be(one of the) most progressive faith communities in the world at the moment.
@Language lover most faiths seems more liberal than the conservative evangelicals . The US has always been a little bit of an anomaly compared to Europe in that regard for instance.
@Language lover Yes, there’s some conservative countries in Europe as well. Hehe, I didn’t know that about Iran so that was kinda ironic. But I agree with you on the point regarding Wahhabism and the evangelicals in the US. I have read that Saudi has spent more money on propaganda than the whole of the Soviet Union did during the Cold War.
@Language lover Well, Turkey has gone some what bananas since (sultan)Erdogan took over. And I do know that Pakistan has schoolbooks where they have some sorts of “creation stories” regarding the evolution, but if it’s only in some regional areas I don’t know.
But anyways, there will always be liberal communities and conservative religious communities/countries around the world.
The absolute truth is never ever afraid..
We are seeing in all religions the "survival of the most unhinged". Nominally scientifically rational sects like Anglicanism are going out the door backwards while fundamentalists churches are the biggest and the ones which are growing. It's easy to understand because being both scientific and religious involves increasingly complex mental mental gymnastics and for most people that is unsatisfactory. We are seeing the polarisation of religiosity. The churches which are adapting to modern science are actually signing their own death warrants.
For this reason I disagree with Apostate Prophet's prediction that adapting to scientific advances is a ticket for a religion to survive. Rather it is a ticket for an express train to extinction. I think AP may be allowing his hopes to cloud his assessment. Far from Islam being in danger of disappearing it is growing faster than Christianity, and those elements of Christianity which are growing fast are the mad fringe elements, which in America already, constitute the majority of Christians. About 40% of Americans believe in the genesis version of creation and, taking into consideration non believers, and followers of other faiths necessarily means that fundamentalists ALREADY constitute the majority of American Christians.
Good live.
With these two finally together, I feel like I'm watching history being made right before my eyes.
12:00 Wow, it is fascinating that Islam does not have the concept of humans as fallen and needing salvation. I think this gives us a peek into early christianity. The "garden of eden/fallen/need salvation" narrative came later....was it Augustine who came up with this?
If you've found god, you haven't been searching critically enough.
I say let them keep looking. It will keep them out of trouble for a long time. Let me know when they find God
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I have an objection to Apostate view that Muhammed became more critical towards jews at the end of the completion of the Quran. But one of the last chapters, doesn't lay claim over jewish beliefs. It mentions merely that jews needs to follow their laws given to them. And that G-d entrusts the rabbis to keep the book intacts. And that they shouldn't be hypocrites when imposing laws and prefering laws over another. This is said in 5:43-44
And here 5:43 explicitly says that they should not come to muhmmad to asks questions about Islam, such jews merely seeks discord and divisions. They have their own laws to take care of. Chapter 5 "The Tables" is one of the last chapters, in the Quran.
It may be true to some degree what Apostate Prophet says, but there is still some degree of that the covenant between jews and gGod is not broken, towards the later narrations.
Let's try the logic of the cookie jars. Let's say that you line up three chilldren on the right and three on the left; you put a cookie jar on a stand on the left and another cookie jar on another stand on the right then, you tell the kids to go get those cookies. But what they did not know is that the cookies on the left are bitter, and of course, we had a bunch of happy munchers on the right and a crying party on the left. Let's say that you repeat the same experience with the same kids the next day. Do you think that the kids on the right will trade place with the kids on the left or will the kids on the left eat the still bitter cookies? The answer is obviously a resounding "NO" : The kids on the right won't trade their spot with the kids on the left and the kids on the left won't eat the bitter cookies either, and to force them to do so, you will have tothreaten to or beat them up. That's what the system of KINGSHIP and PRIESTHOOD left by the Anunnaki has been doing since their departure or death after the great flood.
And that's what they have left us chiefly among other "cultural niceties". "WE MUST MAKE THE MANY OBEY THE FEW;" that's what Enki (our creator and benefactor) told his little brother Enlil (who was the governor their Mining Colony) after descending from orbiting the planet onboard their vessels, where they took refuge in order to escape the Deluge. When they came back, they had nobody to take care of them; nobody to grow food and work for free for them anymore. Before the Deluge, they were naturally gods to the Earthlings, who thought they were immortal, since they seem to never die along ten of thousands of years; but when they fled the FLOOD, we, the Earthlings, knew at once they were not immortals, but mortals bastards like us with a much more longer life span. They quickly understood that fact, and invented the system of POLITICO RELIGIOUS SERFDOM, where close members of their family and or faithful servants will be called and annointed by them to rule over us the Earthlings.
And it's those "bright asses" that have been running the world and slaughter each other for thousands of millenia after the Deluge. And still today, when you are listening to honest dudes, like that innocent man, talking sincerily about his impression of religion and God, as if they were TANGIGLE FACTS, shows you the scope of human power of self blocking and "denialing." The ruins left by the first visitors and the civilisation they left behind are talking to us; their archives have been discovered and deciphered for more than a century, why are we still clinging to belief that has been created and invented in the mind of so called prophets, who for the most are just genociders and plunderers?
Before the Deluge, the Anunnaki were not gods; they were LORDS, they became gods after de Deluge. Before the Deluge the Earthlings used to WORK FOR THE GODS, after the Deluge, the Eartlings were WORSHIPING THE GODS and force to take care of their needs in food and other tasks. As a matter of fact, the word used to translate "worship", in reality mean WORK in ancient Sumerian (the one before the flood). And to make sure that their JOB was done, Kings and Priests (working in tandem) were chosen among their faithful (the same religion and all subsequent organisation have been doing); the King had to take care of physical needs and the Priest of Spiritual ones. No one had the right to approach the God in charge of the city, not even the King. Only the Priest, under certain conditions, can appear in front of the GOD (of the place), anyone else, even the King should wait to be summoned, and even then, he could not see the TREMENDOUSLY AGING FACE of the god, but only be on his presence. That's why after the Deluge, no one COULD SEE THE (aging)FACE OF THE GODS.
My friends, there are no atheist, because to be a complete Atheist, one should reject the spirituality, the occult and the power of the dead spirits. The fact is, since the departure or the slaughter of our so called gods, the system of NATION BUILDING has always comprised THREE MAIN ELEMENTS which are : Ethnicity (the more compact the better, like the HAN chinese and the Japanese), Language (the more unique the better, like again the HAN chinese and the Japanese) and the most important one which is RELIGION. For without a center of belief that would glue them culturally, any nation can be destabilized and conquered very quickly.
Religion is part of the triad that keeps a nation together. If you don't believe it just take a look at all the destabilized nation in the world : They all are suffering from either ethnic of religious diversity. That's why, knowing what they risk to lose if they don't use force, the KINGS or the ELITES of this World help the Priests to enforce their lies with an iron rod, until the abuses exacerbate the population at such a point, it either decides to follow a better god or to simply get rid of religion, like so many have done in the World lately.
The man is still an muslim, he is just trying to distance himself from the extremism stemming out of Islam, but if he'd find a way to push his faith or ex faith (there is no such thing as an ex muslim : you stay muslim or they fatwa you) he'd do so stealthly (as usual) and happily ... The bottom line is that Religion is always manned by Smart Asses who tower over a throng of simple and feeble minds, that are too weak and idiotic to think for themselves ...
Read some Ayn Rand. The spiritual explains nothing because it is nothing there is only the physica and the mental.
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Mohammed Hijab Habibi is in the habit of attacking the wives of men. He attacked the darling wife of brother David Wood because David Wood's channel obliterates Islam and Mohamed Hijab cried.
If there are quranic verses about no compulsion in islam & your belief is not my belief. But why is there apostacy law?
Apostasy during times of war against Allah is treated as sedition especially when you sympathize with the enemy !!
There's no compulsion because the Quran says that Allah calls those who he wills (even then, non-Muslims are subject to taxation and different rights under Islamic law). But if you become a Muslim and then leave it means that Allah has called you and you have rejected him, so it's a big sin and that's why it's supposed to be punished. So yeah, it's better to not become a Muslim in the first place if you value your life.
@@hullie7529 dr. Bart D. Ehrman once said the same thing in public during a press converence.
And do believe that man has become capable to govern his affairs because of religion or inspire of it
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Dhul Qarnain is the father (possessor) of the 2 horns (the Twin) malik and sadiq (melchi-sedek). What is based on profane history ; the person of the julio-claudian Germanicus (biblical Cornelius). Who as Saint Paul, the traveller and seafahrer voyaged to arabia and the uttermost west (Cadiz/Gadara, spain beyond the pillars of hercule). Islam simply copied this from christian tradition, the same with all the crap about Isa, people of the cave (cornelius heirs, 7 pretenders, successors), the dayyal (deceiver), majui and jajui (gog and magog) the sons of Zebedee ; John and Andrew (nicknamed James). Religion exposed for where it realy orginates from.
Any religion that teaches fear of the unknowable is detrimental to the world. When you feel empathy for an insect you are walking in the light. Every believer says others don,t understand the teachings, they are so clever and arrogant. No 13 year old need marriage, thats his first undefendable sin in my eyes.
It would have been better if your guess could point out his disagreement in the Quran so that we can check ourselves. Otherwise it is his personal opinion.
Atheists, free thinkers and Buddhists are not bothered whether the Buddha is criticized/insulted or not. His teachings have to be challenged according to the Buddha it self and except or reject if it fits/or does not fit ones intellectual wisdom. With time certain beliefs got added which is scientifically impossible. So these beliefs and supernatural statements cannot be accepted by the wise. Thats the difference
groovy phallic symbol under the prophets label... hahahha :p
Matthew wood. Wtf
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Odd mistake. But he obviously just misspoke
I see the twitter account for your guest is suspended, would this be because criticism of Islam (no matter how polite) counts as violating the rules nowadays?
Absolutely. The same rule applies on Facebook, on which I've personally been banned for criticizing Islam and Muhammad.
That and also mass false reporting by muslims.
Funny enough Taliban has a twitter 😂😂😂
17:51 The reason Islam is more protected is because it's more prevalent in developing countries. With the risk of seeming haughty. You need to be respectful of the power dynamics of that. And not be purposefully alienating.
Interpreting Romans 9 like a Calvinist is definitely smart if you want to compare it to islam but this view doesn't represent the Biblical view of the passage.
Why?
shun all forms of Messianism
He had my attention until he mentioned the religion called “Science” as a reason for leaving Islam. Also I believe that if you are atheist or agnostic or what ever, it’s because that’s what God wants you to be 😎
Science isn't a religion
Science is the pursuit of reality and discovery
God is the pursuit of dreams and the indefensible
WOW :D
This guy learning islam from wahabi. Thats why so frightening
Auzubillahi minnashshaitaannirrajiim
Bismillahirrahamanirrahiiim
Say: ‘O People of the Book, come to that matter which is common between us and you (namely that): we shall worship none other than Allah, and we shall not associate any partner with Him. Nor shall anyone of us take one another as Lords apart from Allah. Then if they turn away, say: Bear witness that we are but Allah’s obedient servants (Muslims).’
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 64])
O People of the Book! Why do you dispute about Ibrahim ([Abraham] i.e., why do you regard him as a Jew or a Christian])? The truth is that the Torah and the Injil ([the Gospel] on which both your religions are based) were sent down after his time. Have you not even (this much) sense?
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 65])
Listen! You are the people who have also been disputing about matters of which you had (but some) knowledge. But why do you dispute about things of which you have no knowledge (at all)? And Allah knows but you do not know.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 66])
Ibrahim (Abraham) was neither a Jew nor a Christian; he was a (true) Muslim, far detached from all heresy and falsehood. Nor was he one of the polytheists.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 67])
Certainly, the nearest of the people to Ibrahim (Abraham), (and the most deserving) are those who have followed him (in his Din [Religion]). And (they) are no other than this Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) and those who have believed (in him). And Allah is the Helper of the believers.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 68])
(O Muslims!) A section of the People of the Book (intensely) desire to, somehow, lead you astray, but they have led astray only themselves whilst they have no sense (of it).
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 69])
O People of the Book! Why are you denying Allah’s Revelations whilst you bear witness yourselves (i.e., you have read everything in your Books)?
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 70])
O People of the Book! Why do you confound the truth with falsehood, and why do you hide the truth whereas you know?
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 71])
And a section of the People of the Book say (to the people): ‘Believe in the Book (Qur’an) which is sent down to Muslims in the morning, and deny it in the evening, so that (imitating you) they may also desert and turn about.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 72])
And do not believe anyone but him who follows (only) your din (religion).’ Say: ‘Surely, the guidance is but the guidance of Allah (alone).’ (And they further say to their people never to believe even this) that: ‘The like of the Book (or din [religion]) given to you may also be given to anyone else, or that someone may give a plea against you before your Lord.’ Say: ‘Bounty is in the Hand of Allah; He bestows on whom He pleases and Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 73])
He specifies His mercy for whom He wills and Allah is the Lord of Infinite Bounty.’
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 74])
And amongst the People of the Book there are a type that if you trust him with a heap of wealth, he will return it to you. And some amongst them are such that if you trust him with one dinar (a gold coin), he will not return it to you unless you keep standing over him. That is because they say: ‘There is no blame on us in the matter of the illiterate.’ And they fabricate a lie against Allah and they know it themselves (as well).
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 75])
Yes, he who fulfils his promise and adopts Godfearingness (will indeed face no accountability); so Allah surely loves the pious.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 76])
Certainly, those who sell the promise of Allah and their own oaths for a small price, it is they who will not have any share in the Hereafter. And on the Day of Resurrection Allah will neither speak to nor look at them, nor will He purify them, and for them will be painful torment.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 77])
And there is indeed another section of them who, whilst reciting the Book, twist their tongues so that you may take their inverted expression as (part of) the Book, whereas it is not from the Book. And they say: ‘It is (all) from Allah,’ while it is not (at all) from Allah. They invent a lie against Allah and they know (it) themselves as well.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 78])
No human being whom Allah blesses with the Book and Wisdom and Prophethood has the right to say to the people: ‘Be my servants instead of Allah’s.’ (He would rather say:) ‘Be the devotees of Allah because you teach the Book and because you study it yourselves as well.’
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 79])
Nor would that Messenger ever command you to take the angels and the Prophets as Lords. Would he command you (now) to disbelieve after you have become Muslims?
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 80])
And, (O Beloved, recall) when Allah took a firm covenant from the Prophets: ‘When I give you the Book and Wisdom, and then there comes to you the Messenger (who is exalted in glory above all and) who shall validate the Books you will have with you, you shall then, most certainly, believe in him and most surely help him.’ Allah said: ‘Do you affirm, and on this (condition) hold fast to My heavy covenant?’ All submitted: ‘We affirm.’ Allah said: ‘Bear witness then, and I am also with you amongst the witnesses.’
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 81])
(Now admonished all mankind:) ‘Then he who turns away after this (affirmation), it is they who will be the disobedient.’
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 82])
Do they seek some din (religion) other than Allah’s? And whoever is in the heavens and the earth has embraced His obedience (whether) by choice or by constraint, and to Him shall they all be returned.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 83])
Say: ‘We believe in Allah and in that which has been sent down to us and in that which has been revealed to Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma‘il (Ishmael), Ishaq (Isaac) and Ya‘qub (Jacob) and their descendants and that which has been given to Musa (Moses), ‘Isa (Jesus) and all other Messengers by their Lord (we believe in all). We do not make distinction in our faith in any of them, and to Him we submit ourselves.’
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 84])
And whoever seeks a din (religion) other than Islam that shall not at all be accepted from him, and he will be amongst the losers in the Hereafter.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 85])
How shall Allah guide those who disbelieved after embracing faith whilst they had borne witness that this Messenger is true, and clear signs too had come to them? And Allah does not guide the wrongdoers.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 86])
The punishment of such people is that they are continually plagued by the curse of Allah, of the angels and of all mankind.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 87])
They shall remain (imprisoned) under this curse forever. And neither will this torment be lessened, nor will they be given respite,
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 88])
Except those who repent and mend (their) ways. Allah is, indeed, Most Forgiving, Ever-Merciful.
(آل عِمْرَان - Āl ‘Imrān [3 : 89])
Copy paste nonesense
Demonstrate your god isn't man made or sshhh
Islam is "delicate"? The words to describe a religion that threatens and kills its critics are some others: "violent", "psychopathic", "intolerant", "homicidal", "terrorist"...
you talked about god but didnt any of your prophets mentioned how god should be named
Apostate prophet knows what he is talking about.
Walter Williams says Muhammed never existed in his book The Historical Origin of Islam.
I always recommend his book and another one titled: Three Famous Impostors by Adam Freeman.
I think a lot of these characters are literary creations. Constructs. Their existence historically cannot be proven. Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammed.
All three of the Western Abrahamic faiths are clever propaganda- The Bible and The Quran. Tools of imperialistic conquest and colonization.
It would be interesting to see a world more influenced by science, reason, research and critical thinking than fairy tales and comic books.
Muhammed is an constructed person and an emergens of two diffrent individuals Alistair and Mahmut. Alistair was born in Petra, or Seir and Reif in the qouran, his a very famous christian spiritual leader, that was so wellknown during his lifetime that western Kings was named after him. He christian Petra around 533 bc. And he is married to a former christian nun, Khadidja. And he never marries a sisterwife because Khadidja is christian, she would never accepted, another wife for Alistair. 85 years after Alistair death Mahmut is born in THE northern east arabian peninsula, His a worshipper of Kusch, Allah, the moongod and deathgod, he is a warlord and he concurres Medina and Mekka, he is a thief and a murderer because he says that evil is god because he is not intressted in moral unless it gives him power he never repents and he never submitts to the true god , that No religion knows , except those who refuses to kill.150 years after Mahmut death Abu bakr comes along and then the arabian tribes has confused the two diffrent individuals Alistair and Mahmut, into Muhammed , the praised One,and Abu bakr cemented the confusion, Forever, but in Quoran this diffrent individuals can be traced sira and hadiths and qouran, testafy about this two, giving Muhammed two diffrent birthdays, diffrent amount of wifes , diffrent amount of children.
@evaulrikajansson62 what complete nonsense. I have never heard this before.
What's bigger than a donkey but smaller than a horse? A zebra?
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Wow even though I am " Muslim " I completed accept his first reason why he is not a Muslim....
I am also rediscovering .... myself....
But one thing I found out that was very interesting was the Quranist and how some on thier views made sense....
But that's too spread all over
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❤❤ Very brave , what you do. If we are going to be able to leave this planet we need actual proof actual true knowledge not guesses abd not fantasies, we need to KNOW what we are doing should we go to the exoplanets in the future. We cant belive that Allah or Yaweh or Isis or whoever shall come down and bring them to the places we need to go eventually.
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AP used to be so good. Now hes a Christian entertainer. It sucks to lose him
I was expecting a Middle Eastern looking ex Muslim rather than a Western tourist.
The thing about Islam is; the Qur'an is virtually untranslatable. There are words that have switched meanings through out the centuries and thus any translation would reflect the most recent meaning of a given word and not the original one. The first time the Qur'an was recorded was before the punctuation system similar to the Hebrew (Niqqud) system, both of which were invented by the same guy incidentally. So naturally some consonants were to be discerned from context.
There are several single syllable words, and one distinct multisyllable word, that are unintelligible by any Arabic language standard, but are meaningful to someone familiar with Syriac Christian, Hebrew and even Coptic Christian Gematria. The chapter names have Pagan, Astro-theological (and even Masonic) references that in many cases are only accessible to native Arabic speakers like myself, and even then it is still difficult, because the spelling of some words was readjusted for Gematria purposes.
And there is of course the fact that many Arabic words have ancient Egyptian origins, but in general, Westerners can't distinguish them, mostly because they can't pronounce the dreaded consonants such as these ع - ح- ط- خ-ظ-ض And transliterate them instead with inaccurate consonants.
Several Coptic Christian monasteries still hold valuable manuscripts from the earlier days of Islam that contain Earth-Shattering revelations about it, just like several ones also hold manuscripts from the early days of Christianity that contain many surprises. The most famous example were the Naga Hammadi library, which was buried near a Coptic Christian monastery in Upper Egypt. But the manuscripts held by monasteries are held in extreme secrecy, and you only hear the occasional tid-bit in confidence from a priest or a monk who is a friend or a relative.
In other words, it is a Clusterf*ck of gigantic proportions that from what I see, still mostly defy the scholarly circles.
Its completly unintresstingly, because No religios Book can be about God , because humans No matter what they claim knows ANYTHING at all about God
Not you not Muhammed not Jesus , not Shiva or anybody. And the problem with islam is that its very fascitic . God has Love for everything because he according to what humans belive created everything with his own hands , he is according to the teachings without sin, so god doesnt order murders or killings of humans , that is a lie . If humans know anything about God its that His god. Muhammed is not god. So he is not God servant. Jesus was a person that strived after being without sin , he is better than Muhammed. But he Still didnt know God.
I personally don't think you should use that image. If your'e a muslim who is curious about skepticism then that sort of caricature is too much of a slap in the face. People tend to double down when they are ridiculed. Just saying.
Money is from oil duuude. Foreign labor are benefiting from that wealth bcz the citizens aren't enough to run everything
This is completely off subject but I wanna go to an atheist wedding so bad lol...Ok back to the program currently in progress
Weddings are a waste of time and money and effort. Marriage is an ancient, outdated tradition.
Hey!Derek. Do you worship the pagan Gods?
Also Death Penalty for Apostasy is not originally from Islam at all. It is from Zoroaster religion. Ditto Stoning of women for adultery from Judaism.
Priests of Zoroaster / Judaism from Babylon converting to Islam bought their 'baggage'. Food-4-thought :)
Let me correct you ,Islam stole the ideas from prevous religions and then muslims forced the followers to convert by sword , nobody in old persia converted by their own free will, neither zaratoastrians nor christians and jews , they fight for their land for 2 centruies , you cand read about in tarikh al tabari and other Islamic sources
A good topic has been chosen and X-Muslim has raised very good questions on Islam. But the root cause of the current fundamentalism and extremism of the Islamic world has not been given the importance it should have been given.
The Islamic world was politically, socially, intellectually and economically hollowed out even before the First World War.
Since World War I, it was increasingly dominated by Western imperial powers,
and at one point it was completely occupied by Western powers.
At that time, the Western powers could give whatever direction they wanted to give to the Islamic world.
Unfortunately,
the Western powers, fearing the return of the Turkish Caliphate and the spread of Russian socialism, imposed the extremism of Wahhabi Islam on the Islamic world to compete.
In particular, the slogan of Pan-Islamism was used against Russian socialism.
So-called Jihadi organizations were created at the expense of billions of dollars to fight in Afghanistan and then let loose all over the world.
Under the pretext of action against these organizations, the United States and its allies show their power by raining bombs and missiles on the Islamic world wherever they want.
The same Western imperialism imposed dictators and kings on the Islamic world along with this religious extremism,
so that the Muslim world remained backward and enslaved.
For this purpose, the Western powers used part of the wealth earned from the resources of the Islamic world.
If the Western powers wanted,
they could have made the whole world a great place during their period of political and intellectual dominance, but for their own temporary interests, they have left a large part of the world in backwardness, ignorance,
extremism, and political chaos.
Anyone familiar with the writings of the Inarah school will be aware that the case for Mohamed mythicism is extremely convincing.
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The title is as ironic as “The Truth about the Earth from a Flat Earther” 😂
How about more focus on Islam's actual flaws instead of one guys generic disillusionment with it?
Perhaps try his channel?
Great interview, clearly the belief in deities is ignorance.
Thanks!
Thank you very much for that superthanks!
What amazing points.... Why do we Treat Islam with kid gloves? Like it's a Harmless endangered indigenous religion. We Said "will never forget", boy how quickly we have forgotten. Like Derek I can Christian bash all day long I have my own religious trauma. Still saying Islam is the motherload of bad ideashould be absolutely fine. Last I checked It's not hate speech to criticize ideas only people. Must check out Apostate prophet . I know a lot about religion. Christianity ,Judaism the Classics, Egyptology even Hinduism but Islam I am so ignorant because It is almost impossible to get unbiased info. I Disappointingly watched the life of Muhammad on PB S so much different Then how they treat Christianity so I set out to find a middle source. This is where I landed although I'm already a big fan this is an older video.
Mythvision, I used to watch your channel and was quite impressed by the caliber of your guests but I think you've made an error of judgement here by inviting this guy. What you've done is not as ridiculous as, for example, Piers Morgan interviewing 'Son of Hamas'. It's a level above ridiculous so perhaps pardonable. Try to keep it intellectual as you've seemingly been aiming for thus far.