@@esoel if you’re talking about replicant ver 1.22, then yeah it’s a prequel to automata and it’s a remake of the 2010 game Nier Gestalt/Replicant. The game is super good and is one of my top 5 favorite JRPGs of all time. If you happened to talk about the mobile game Nier reincarnation, then it’s a gacha game that’s a sequel to Nier automata but doesn’t really have any references to the previous stories.
July 2019. Put on easy mode, equip the auto evade, attack, etc. Went from level 17 to 99 while I sleep 6-7 hours. I checked it when I woke up and it was at level 98. Within a minute, it turned level 99. Perfect timing, woot!
I just started playing this game, and I have so many questions and keep getting hung-up/lost, but it's hard to find exactly what I need because of how dedicated the content creators are at avoiding anything that'd involve spoilers, and because I'm trying my best to get guides like these without having to give in and get some things spoiled (but it honestly wouldn't be a huge deal if anything did get spoiled because I'd still have a blast playing anyway). So this was a nice little nugget that I needed! Thank you 🤘🏻
That is so incredibly helpful, thank you! I easily got to lv90 with an Exp Bonus chip, and cleared the coliseum. A bit of advice about the bombers, you can avoid damage if you jump over them. Even if they detonate right under you, you won't get hurt (It helped me during Factory escape)
Thanks for the video. I started not long ago playing this and finished this part. I love when I’m high level and can just run through the story at my own pace with no difficulty.
@@krisshietala2119 u get them in route C in the camp. A certain resistance vendor will sell it along with the awesome Evasive system that pairs with overclock
Thank you!!!!! I'm on switch so I'm a late bloomer. This is much appreciated as there are not many guides for new comers and the ones that are there are not as clear as you. Much respect sir
@G. A. Ramos They stop after about two-three hours. By that time, you're numb. You need to get and wlk around to get the circulation working again. You also need a break from this much mayhem.
@Alexander Galejev Know what you mean. I made that mistake and was able to retrieve my body. It wasn't easy and i would not do it again. I only did it the first time by accident.
@@minny69me Did you find the box? There is a passage marked by a metal box with gears on it. It's in the eastern Desert region, in a corner if i remember rightly. Push this and the passage should open. Once you get through the passage into the open area near the Desert apartments, be ready. Good luck. Hope these instructions help.
Thank you so much for this I just brought this game from Gamestop Black Friday deals for free !! The best decision I brought for my ps4 ! I’m going to try this out thank you!
Great video, thanks! For those playing on PC and experiencing frequent crashes: Start the game at a your last save point. Open taskmanager, (Ctrl-Shift-Esc), right click on Nier, Details, Affinity and disable half of your processor cores. Set the game to full screen again. I now have Nier running on 4 cores (0,2,4,6) and haven't had a crash since. I really love this game.
Thanks LemonEatingKow. This area is intense. You d need to be careful at lower levels, and don't bee afraid to retreat if you're taking too much damage.
I just found out about this game and can’t believe I missed out on all this lore and incredible game play. I just started playing it yesterday and can’t get over how confusing it is but this will help me a lot so again thanks
@@lightning13clair29 awful response, just different took some time to get use to it😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 those felt out of place but I felt I needed to add them sense for some reason you felt it necessary to laugh at someone?
@@cliftonsargent1572 not really just common sense i laughed because you said the game is confusing which its not so yeah i felt the need to laugh at you get used to it pal 😄
@@cliftonsargent1572I never said everyone played the game and understands it like I do I said it's not confusing you clearly are stupid and can't read comments correctly just stfu bro 😂
Works well on me, from 32 to 40 gradually and 52-75 continously. Then i did rabbit statue boss exp farm and pushed till lvl 99 on my first playthrough 😅
just started playing this game on switch yesterday! when i reached this particular area i just ran around in circles and let pod & 9S do all the heavylifting 😂 thanks for the tips
WHAT A SURPRISE! I used to watch your guides for ff15 when it first came out. I recently got Nier and just thought I'd look up some guides and here you are lol.
Well it's 2021 and I bought this game on Steam Black Friday 2017 / broke tears because pc could not handle it, now I can at lowest graph possible, and this video is a great help, will surely abuse that spot xD, already fell at the bottom of the bridge starting area and survived against the level 27-30 bots there with my level 5 so yeah... wish me luck.
Thank you for this video, even though Nier Automata is such an old game I just beat Nier Replicant and am playing through in order, Just started Automata needed this.
Don’t ask how or why I’m so late to the Automata party. But this game is fun as hell, legit way to burn up some time if you want a cool fun game and story.
Holy shit dude. Here i am looking up Nier stuff since it finally came out for Xbox... i click your vid and what do you know? You have 31k subscribers now! Congrats man
Can't believe that I never tried going back there after that scene. Pretty sure that I'm still at a point where I can still get some good use of it, though, so thanks!
Great video, ive had this game since release however im playing thru it now, so this is definitely helpful although the game has been out, also it was on sale black friday so maybe more an more people will come through to check this out
i unintentionally rushed through the game,was at level 27,started 2nd playthrough as 9s,I was like screw it,I'm starting a new game.i prefer to level up profusely and dominate like a chief
Ok. So if you go to this spot after the boss fight but the block is in the way, you probably jumped the canyon to get back. I don’t know WHEN it reset exactly, but after leaving the “village,” the block was moved. So after the big fight that he talks about, DONT JUMP THE CANYON, your egress route will take you to the bloco
keep making videos,, this is a altime classic and I just started playing it. I think a lot of people are still just discovering this game so keep up the good work. Maybe something even as basic as how to best us Chips, I find that part all very confusing. thanks
I recomend putting the difficulty on easy and put the auto attack and other auto chips from easy mode so you can just have it farm by itself Edit: i forgot to say that you should also put the auto loot chip
When I arrive at the last part of the cave before entering the arena I can’t move forward and a robot voice says “Alert!”. Did Platinum G. patch this exploit recently? Playing the become as gods edition from the Xbox game pass.
Just started playing this game. Seems like the pod (system) doesn't allow me to take the shortcut to the hollow pit after beating Adam for the first time? I am only level 13, maybe my level is too low to enter? (of course, I can enter by the normal route)
I tried on Normal and died. On my way back the robot says Alarm and I can't go through. Went all the way through the buildings and put the easy Mode on. I'm able to kill the enemy but barely get any items or exp. Did this for 10 min on Level 9 and was at 10 at the end. Although I killed a lot of robots. Is this patched or am I doing something wrong?
not sure what im doing wrong... When I go here my Pod just says "Alert" and stops me? I did what I assume is the fight in this area already and when I attempt to go back I cant. Am i just not far enough?
In the early game there is a lvl 25 Goliath biped that I use to level up, you kill him once and you level up, so I just reload the game over and over again to farm levels.
2021 - thank you! I did just go at a level 17 and, even though I did well for about 20 mins or so, got my ass destroyed. Not the most fun place to have to go back for your body/chips
Tysm im at lvl 10 rn and I wanna lvl up so bad. It's funny because Nier Replicant gets you to lvl 10 within like 2 mins of their game but then again that game is older.
*PATCHED*Mine just says “Alert” and doesn’t let me pass!!! Plus if you drop into the quicksand you take damage and start back up on top again. This no longer works
Thanks pal. It's 2019. But I find this game interesting. End of story and thanks 4 sharing. I bought this game a year ago but I just start playing this game now.
I was level 2-3 and i fell from bridge near the commercial facility (shopping mall) And died there with my chips, it wasn't that valuable i think but I still wanted them back at any cost I jumped in again and killed like 10-15 level 20-25 mobs I leveled up but tbh I never felt any difference
Not sure if this has been patched in the meantime, but at this point the little suicide runners will aggro on you before you even get the chance to enter the arena and you will neither be able to see nor attack them because you'll still be in the "side-scroller" perspective part of your way down. So for any new players who may be watching this: DO NOT do this with low level - you're guaranteed to die and there's nothing you can do about it.^^
For any new players: Definitly do this, this is not patched. For very very early game you can just jump above these guys heads, but like He said in the Video you probably will die from time to time. PS farming this right now
Dude.. Same here.. That was my favourite farming place.. But I go farming there when I was at lvl 30.. Then.. In 2 day.. I get lvl 99.. Best farming place ever...
I'm here in 2024
me too
Same here 🫡
Samsies
Same here
Same
Really appreciate how you did you best to avoid spoilers. Thank you for the consideration and the tips. It works great!
Yeah, this game is really old, the sequel is actually out, but I just started playing it :-D . Thanks for the guide!
@@esoel prequel* lol
@@Kaies109 I didn’t know, is it any good?
@@esoel if you’re talking about replicant ver 1.22, then yeah it’s a prequel to automata and it’s a remake of the 2010 game Nier Gestalt/Replicant. The game is super good and is one of my top 5 favorite JRPGs of all time.
If you happened to talk about the mobile game Nier reincarnation, then it’s a gacha game that’s a sequel to Nier automata but doesn’t really have any references to the previous stories.
@@Kaies109actually the first game on Xbox 360 and PS3 is just called nier not gestalt replicant
2020 still relevant! 😁👍
Just discovered this game from under my rock and its a modern classic :)
I started this game today I will for sure give it a try im lvl 10 atm
@@RubbishRebel bro play it until your fingers bleed story + gameplay is amazing
Yes great advice
yes .:)
July 2019. Put on easy mode, equip the auto evade, attack, etc. Went from level 17 to 99 while I sleep 6-7 hours. I checked it when I woke up and it was at level 98. Within a minute, it turned level 99. Perfect timing, woot!
wow yr a l33t gamer dude
Don't you lose trophy access or the ability to get achievements if you play on easy/use certain auto chips?
This Guy Earth no. You can literally buy all the achievements at the end of the game lol. So no.
That’s such a boring way to play
@@nepnep1149 ikr
It may be 2019, but I used this when I was level 14 and it got me to level 20 in 20 minutes. It's crazy!
really. i cant wait to do it now. i just started the game 3 days ago.. hehe
Damn i just got lvl 30 in no time. Hahahhaa i think i will level upuntil 40 before i continuebthe story..
Im playing Nier automata right now, still one of the best game ive ever played
facts my friend
I just started playing this game, and I have so many questions and keep getting hung-up/lost, but it's hard to find exactly what I need because of how dedicated the content creators are at avoiding anything that'd involve spoilers, and because I'm trying my best to get guides like these without having to give in and get some things spoiled (but it honestly wouldn't be a huge deal if anything did get spoiled because I'd still have a blast playing anyway). So this was a nice little nugget that I needed! Thank you 🤘🏻
This game may be really old, but I'm glad you made a guide about it because I literally started playing it last night 😅
If you spam evade when a bomb robot is about to blow up, you won't take any damage even if you're in the range of the explosion.
no shit. timed dodge is an .
@@Shaeuwu It's obviously an advice for new players. Thx george, your comment helped a friend of mine out c:
@@Shaeuwu it's the Bayonetta dodge
@@ultragamer4465 witch time/perfect dodge
@@scuppo you can acually give her witch time its a certain chip that after you perfect dodge it slows time down for like 2 seconds
That is so incredibly helpful, thank you! I easily got to lv90 with an Exp Bonus chip, and cleared the coliseum.
A bit of advice about the bombers, you can avoid damage if you jump over them. Even if they detonate right under you, you won't get hurt (It helped me during Factory escape)
Thanks for the video. I started not long ago playing this and finished this part. I love when I’m high level and can just run through the story at my own pace with no difficulty.
Forgot to say it helps a lot having the auto collect, drop rate, and exp up chips
There is auto collect chip?
@@krisshietala2119 u get them in route C in the camp. A certain resistance vendor will sell it along with the awesome Evasive system that pairs with overclock
@@deityofgods8331 playing it now for the first time. Bought it for 5k from a certain red head at the resistance camp just after the flooded City level
Thank you!!!!! I'm on switch so I'm a late bloomer. This is much appreciated as there are not many guides for new comers and the ones that are there are not as clear as you. Much respect sir
A bit of a late bloomer here since i just started playing this game. I must say your vids on nier automata are helping me a lot. Great content man!
This is what I feel FFXV gameplay should have been more like. This game plays so much more smoothly and I feel like it's an overlooked gem.
Will O'Keefe indeed. Its a Masterpiece!
Its the perfect union of mind boggling story telling and mind melting gameplay
Suprised it wasn't popular
@@Monkimonium89XVI it is
@@Monkimonium89XVI wtf? Nier is extremely popular
Thank you for helping me enjoy the game. I have some sight issues so the neutral colors made this all the more difficult.
2024, playing it on PS5 and loving it! Thanks for the guide!
me too
Been awhile since I did a play through. Started up again today. Came right back to this video for tips.
This game will never get old. One of the best ever made.
I started at lv 10 and got my ass kicked but I persevered and now I am lv 40! Thank you so much for this!
Not persevered! 😭😭🤣🤣
lol i ran over there with my level 10 ass and got smoked xD
@G. A. Ramos They stop after about two-three hours. By that time, you're numb. You need to get and wlk around to get the circulation working again. You also need a break from this much mayhem.
@G. A. Ramos I jumped about twenty levels. it was a lot anyway.
@Alexander Galejev Know what you mean. I made that mistake and was able to retrieve my body. It wasn't easy and i would not do it again. I only did it the first time by accident.
@@Olan09 my passage is blocked, does that mean I still have quests to do before that opens?
@@minny69me Did you find the box? There is a passage marked by a metal box with gears on it. It's in the eastern Desert region, in a corner if i remember rightly. Push this and the passage should open. Once you get through the passage into the open area near the Desert apartments, be ready. Good luck. Hope these instructions help.
Thank you so much for this I just brought this game from Gamestop Black Friday deals for free !! The best decision I brought for my ps4 ! I’m going to try this out thank you!
geomegaxis Enjoy! It is such an amazing game!
When can I go back there and lvl up? It won’t let me go there 😩😩😩 the pods keep saying alert and makes me turn around
@@geomegaxis Did you succeed? :0
Maxi L hell yea bro ! This shit legit !!!
Great video, thanks! For those playing on PC and experiencing frequent crashes: Start the game at a your last save point. Open taskmanager, (Ctrl-Shift-Esc), right click on Nier, Details, Affinity and disable half of your processor cores. Set the game to full screen again. I now have Nier running on 4 cores (0,2,4,6) and haven't had a crash since. I really love this game.
Thank you so much! It actually worked:)
Really glad you posted this video. I just started playing a couple days ago, so I appreciate the tips!
I just finished and platinumed the game for the first time like five days ago, its a beautiful game.
Thanks LemonEatingKow. This area is intense. You d need to be careful at lower levels, and don't bee afraid to retreat if you're taking too much damage.
I just found out about this game and can’t believe I missed out on all this lore and incredible game play. I just started playing it yesterday and can’t get over how confusing it is but this will help me a lot so again thanks
how is it confusing you have a map you cant really get lost 😆
@@lightning13clair29 awful response, just different took some time to get use to it😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 those felt out of place but I felt I needed to add them sense for some reason you felt it necessary to laugh at someone?
@@cliftonsargent1572 not really just common sense i laughed because you said the game is confusing which its not so yeah i felt the need to laugh at you get used to it pal 😄
@@lightning13clair29 not to you, you have to be full of your self to think every one plays the game and understands it like you do
@@cliftonsargent1572I never said everyone played the game and understands it like I do I said it's not confusing you clearly are stupid and can't read comments correctly just stfu bro 😂
Works well on me, from 32 to 40 gradually and 52-75 continously. Then i did rabbit statue boss exp farm and pushed till lvl 99 on my first playthrough 😅
I started playing this game recently for the first time, glad someone made this guide.
just started playing this game on switch yesterday! when i reached this particular area i just ran around in circles and let pod & 9S do all the heavylifting 😂 thanks for the tips
I feel you 😂
WHAT A SURPRISE! I used to watch your guides for ff15 when it first came out. I recently got Nier and just thought I'd look up some guides and here you are lol.
That zone and the Copied City boss fight area are my favourite for farming. One can also equip exp. chips. :)
This is exactly what i was looking for. A bad ass grind area. Thanks man!
Wow. I died once, but leveled up ten times in like, 40ish minutes. Thanks for uploading this, three years ago, lmao.
So hey when I attempt to go back to the pit, My pod says "Alert" and won't let me walk any further.
I’m getting the same issue
Just started playing this last night. Love it so far. Oct 2020
Crazy how I found this farming method before looking at this video, explains how much I like this game...
Just bought this game for the first time a week ago and questioning why I never played it before. Soooo good
Tks man! I'm playing NieR and having a little difficult at the beginning. This is the only early gaming tutorial that I found out.
thank for being the first person with real information
Well it's 2021 and I bought this game on Steam Black Friday 2017 / broke tears because pc could not handle it, now I can at lowest graph possible, and this video is a great help, will surely abuse that spot xD, already fell at the bottom of the bridge starting area and survived against the level 27-30 bots there with my level 5 so yeah... wish me luck.
Thank you for this video, even though Nier Automata is such an old game I just beat Nier Replicant and am playing through in order, Just started Automata needed this.
It's 2023, Nier: Automata anime is coming out in a day and I want to play this game again. So, I would say it's still very relevant.
Thank you so much I been playing recently and there are not many guides out this helped a lot thank you
still works, from lvl 11 - 99.. its easy if u use AFK chips, use it only if u have already high damage
I just bought the game yesterday, I really appreciate the tips. Thanks
Hey 2020 here and this video still relevant, thanks
I keep DYING
@@Asthetic-Horizon change the settings to easy difficulty then just afk
@@devilincarnarion Gotcha, I've been playin on normal cuz it's my first time and it's been a breeze but the high levels make me sweat lol
October 2024 and Still relevant.Thanks!
Thanks, i just started playing this fsnw yesterday. I appreciate it
Switch to easy mode,equip Exp,auto-collect,Auto chips (avoid,fire,attack),drop rate
After that,go sleep or coffee shop
why? they cant kill us if we use all the chips in easy mode?
@@kawaiibatman Yes. I did this. Within 6-7 hours, my level went from 17 to 99.
Harry D Connor how do you equip auto collect ?
Don’t ask how or why I’m so late to the Automata party. But this game is fun as hell, legit way to burn up some time if you want a cool fun game and story.
Yeah, indeed... Yesterday I finished the main story and it was an amazing experience. But now I feel empty.
Holy shit dude. Here i am looking up Nier stuff since it finally came out for Xbox... i click your vid and what do you know? You have 31k subscribers now! Congrats man
Can't believe that I never tried going back there after that scene. Pretty sure that I'm still at a point where I can still get some good use of it, though, so thanks!
this is first time I watched your video and your outro is the best lolol
Great video, ive had this game since release however im playing thru it now, so this is definitely helpful although the game has been out, also it was on sale black friday so maybe more an more people will come through to check this out
i tried it out at lvl 10 and died.. so when i came back the pod kept saying alert and 2b wont go thru anymore.. why?
What so you do in this case? Just experiencing this too
I played this game back in 2017 on release and here I am in 2024 playing it looking up guides again cause of the Stellar Blade collab. Lol
I ve done the (E) ending so many times now. Hoping some1 will receive my help. Good to see there are pple still playing nier
great guy
Why make guides? Because 7 years later the game is still cool and still has beginners. Thanks!
I always seem to come back to your videos somehow, either for FF12 The Zodiac Age or this game. Take my sub already!
Recently hopped back on this game and realized its still a quirky masterpiece
I went there one time and died and after that every time I want to go there it says "Alert" and won't let me continue Why?
i unintentionally rushed through the game,was at level 27,started 2nd playthrough as 9s,I was like screw it,I'm starting a new game.i prefer to level up profusely and dominate like a chief
hey bro, 2020 and this guide is still awsome. thank you!
2023 and just playing it! I need as much help as possible 🤣! Love this game
Even though the game is a bit old...it still is sooooo superb. Thanks for sharing this tip.
Ok. So if you go to this spot after the boss fight but the block is in the way, you probably jumped the canyon to get back. I don’t know WHEN it reset exactly, but after leaving the “village,” the block was moved. So after the big fight that he talks about, DONT JUMP THE CANYON, your egress route will take you to the bloco
keep making videos,, this is a altime classic and I just started playing it. I think a lot of people are still just discovering this game so keep up the good work. Maybe something even as basic as how to best us Chips, I find that part all very confusing. thanks
2024 and first now I am playing this :)
Loving it
Thanks alot foe the tips :-D
I recomend putting the difficulty on easy and put the auto attack and other auto chips from easy mode so you can just have it farm by itself
Edit: i forgot to say that you should also put the auto loot chip
Just started playing this game. Thanks for the guide.
Been wanting to play this game for years and I am just now getting to it in 2021
I just got the game today, thanks for all the info!
Is this farming method patched ?
Aaaah I love u! thanks for this!
When I arrive at the last part of the cave before entering the arena I can’t move forward and a robot voice says “Alert!”. Did Platinum G. patch this exploit recently? Playing the become as gods edition from the Xbox game pass.
nah i did it yesterday, have you fought the boss?
i just realized this was 7 months ago and your problem is prolly already solved 😭
@@dylanmg_ I don‘t know it’s been 7 month :>
There are two paths into this area, you can only enter through the original entrance @@mfsars1075
Cant go inside since my pod says alert then I go the other way.
Just started playing this game. Seems like the pod (system) doesn't allow me to take the shortcut to the hollow pit after beating Adam for the first time? I am only level 13, maybe my level is too low to enter? (of course, I can enter by the normal route)
Loving the game-thanks for your help!
Just bought this game yesterday. Might try this. ;o
I tried on Normal and died. On my way back the robot says Alarm and I can't go through. Went all the way through the buildings and put the easy Mode on. I'm able to kill the enemy but barely get any items or exp. Did this for 10 min on Level 9 and was at 10 at the end. Although I killed a lot of robots. Is this patched or am I doing something wrong?
not sure what im doing wrong... When I go here my Pod just says "Alert" and stops me? I did what I assume is the fight in this area already and when I attempt to go back I cant. Am i just not far enough?
So I come here after spending two hours on the final boss and this guy is already a higher level than me.
In the early game there is a lvl 25 Goliath biped that I use to level up, you kill him once and you level up, so I just reload the game over and over again to farm levels.
Just started playing it!!
I’m currently level 26
I‘m 56
@@Tsuki_Fullmoon Update: Now I’m level 71 🤣
@@Tsuki_Fullmoon I stayed in one area and leveled all the way up. Using the 50% more experience chip, helped a lot.
enjoy the game! :D you would love it.
i cannot access the area and im not sure why, im lvl 10 and beated the boss, any tips?
2021 - thank you! I did just go at a level 17 and, even though I did well for about 20 mins or so, got my ass destroyed. Not the most fun place to have to go back for your body/chips
Tysm im at lvl 10 rn and I wanna lvl up so bad. It's funny because Nier Replicant gets you to lvl 10 within like 2 mins of their game but then again that game is older.
*PATCHED*Mine just says “Alert” and doesn’t let me pass!!! Plus if you drop into the quicksand you take damage and start back up on top again. This no longer works
Thanks pal.
It's 2019.
But I find this game interesting.
End of story and thanks 4 sharing.
I bought this game a year ago but I just start playing this game now.
Just starting this game now so thanks man 👍
another tip here is, get a deadly heal chip, and spam self destruct. It's the fastest wave clearing method
I beat the game 5 times and then thrown it all awsy for someone in the future, im allowed to do this.
game might be old but it's been in my backlog of "to play". thanks for the guide.
I was level 2-3 and i fell from bridge near the commercial facility (shopping mall)
And died there with my chips, it wasn't that valuable i think but I still wanted them back at any cost
I jumped in again and killed like 10-15 level 20-25 mobs
I leveled up but tbh I never felt any difference
Not sure if this has been patched in the meantime, but at this point the little suicide runners will aggro on you before you even get the chance to enter the arena and you will neither be able to see nor attack them because you'll still be in the "side-scroller" perspective part of your way down. So for any new players who may be watching this: DO NOT do this with low level - you're guaranteed to die and there's nothing you can do about it.^^
For any new players:
Definitly do this, this is not patched.
For very very early game you can just jump above these guys heads, but like He said in the Video you probably will die from time to time.
PS farming this right now
Thank you just got the game and loving it
I recommend at least lvl 18 or 19 because when I was doing this at lvl 9 it was hard. The bomb Willkie you in one hit if your not careful.
Im lvl 20 and get instantly killed by everything there, also barely do damage to them
Dude.. Same here.. That was my favourite farming place.. But I go farming there when I was at lvl 30.. Then.. In 2 day.. I get lvl 99.. Best farming place ever...
Is it patched yet or is it still viable?
@@tanaka6058 Still working as of July 2019. Went from level 17 to 99 in 6-7 hours. Easy mode, auto evade, attack, etc.
Ok irony I keep dying and wanted to find out where to go to grind only to find out the area I keep dying is where I'm supposed to grind
Thanks man super useful