I remember watching a documentary on the murder of Angie Dodge. In her case a man who was innocent was convicted of her murder and sent to prison. Angie’s mother ended up believing in the man and helped to have him released. I was impressed with the mom and how hard she fought to find the TRUTH. She made a statement that stuck with me …. She said ,” I don’t want SOMEBODY to pay for killing my daughter, I want the person who killed her to pay for it !” I think I’m so many cases the police and even the victim’s families just want somebody, anybody to be convicted, rather than searching for truth. Great work Dr Grande.
This happens so often. Apparently AD ignore the Constitution where it says you are presumed innocent until proving you are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Everyone in this needs to know that.
It's also a huge insult that her brother Clint was just standing by posted up watching her get taken away. This case has ALWAYS boiled my blood. Honestly, every single time I listen to her case & her birthdate is mentioned, my ❤️ sinks bc Holly & I were born exactly 1 year & 2 days apart in age. I know that seems silly... it just really really hits me with this case.
@@annalisegiovanni7032 It doesn't sound silly at all Annalise, being so close in age you will understand just how tragic it is for someone to lose their life when it was only really starting. 😢
@@annalisegiovanni7032 I totally agree! She's 5 years younger than me and was just trying to start her life. Her bro is a joke and whoever killed her deserves the DP
Ugh, these small town "law enforcement" departments are always so freaking clueless when it comes to murder investigations - it's such a disservice to the victims & their families 😡😐☹️
Yes, I live in one and can contest to this. The TBI stated that it was the most expensive search in Tennessee history. Not one law enforcement officer found any clues at all. It was ordinary citizens that found clues and called them in to come out.
I dig the Confession Bunny. Turns out, they reproduce at an astonishing rate -- unlike Australia's Confession Kangaroo, who wears boxing gloves, but has a low reproductive rate.
@@bthomson It's really interesting to see a kangaroo giving birth. If you can put it in into your search engine, and all you need to say is "do you have a video of a kangaroo giving birth " it's fascinating too watch.
@@jamaaldavis6243 I agree, Jamaal. Assuming that the brother is reporting exactly what he saw and heard truthfully, nothing can be held against him. He’d just waked up and had it in his head that it was her boyfriend. However, for the mother to go from “that’s not Drew” to “shoot him” immediately is quite a leap if she didn’t know who it was and that Holly was in danger.
This is just purely insane, Dr Grande! The amount of time you dedicate to create this type of a content. From the bottom of my heart, I deeply appreciate what you do. You make my days&nights. Simply the best so far💎
God I think of Holly BoBo a lot. This murder happened extremely close to me, and I remember hoping that she’d make it home alive. Such a tragedy. I hate that she still can’t rest in peace and that she nor her family will have justice.
Such a nice looking girl. People can be so cruel or do the most terrible things ...and there's no going back. Evil is sometimes found in places you would'nt believe. Hope you are doing allright. 🖖🍀
The TBI other LE and court did a terrible job all the way around. The only thing good to come from it , is her family got her remains for a proper burial. She has never received justice.
Evil is all around us, we just refuse to acknowledge it, or don't know what to look for. That's why I strongly suggest Citizens carry some sort of defensive weapon, be it a firearm, folding knife of size sufficient to cause serious harm to an assailant, or pepper spray. And don't hesitate to use it if your life is threatened. Don't bluff or threaten with it. The latter two, especially, should be considered stealth weapons. As seen in Ms Bobo's case, you are not safe anywhere, not even in your own home or yard.
There's probably more to this case than Dr. Grande has put forward, but the police many times seem to take the easy way out. I strongly agree no witness should talk to police without a criminal lawyer, especially the innocent.
The brother's actions are very suspicious in this case. He literally watched his sister being kidnapped and did very little to prevent it. It was suggested somewhere that he was involved with drugs and that he may have thought the assailant was connected to his dealer. It doesn't make sense that a brother would call around looking for instructions rather than simply act.
@@penskepc2374 I have to say, when I watched the trial I felt that Jason Autry’s testimony was a pack of lies, but I also remember getting the impression that her brother Clint was not suspicious and was just groggy and confused
Wow this is crazy to hear. I was born and raised in Tennessee and I just remember for years(between 2011-2014) there would be coverage of her case on the local news at least once a week. at the time it was all about her 'disappearance.' To be grown now and hear all of this being what happened is crazy to hear.
There’s a TED talk on YT about how accurate people are at spotting a liar. Compared to random luck, parents to social workers, to peers to cops all rated the same as the percentage of chance. Anyone can be fooled.
Even if you look at real behavioural experts, the number one thing I hear from the credible ones is “we can *not* tell you that they’re lying, only that there’s signs of stress that could be indicative of deception.” I’ve heard something to that effect countless times. The ones who actually know what they’re doing know how to spot when something changes in a long conversation and dig into it, even the best can’t watch someone make a single statement or pair of statements and do anything better than guess at the credibility. And even with the best evidence it’s a game of probabilities not an exact science.
This comment is unrelated to the video. I still have your old videos on mental health topics come up on my algorithm on You Tube, and I am reminded how helpful, instructive aand well researched they are. You were able to clearly explain mental health conditions in a way that was both professional, intellectual and experiential while making things very clear for a person who may not really know much about the mental health condition being discussed. I would really like to see more of those videos mixed in with the true crime. I like the true crime videos, but I also like the more didactic videos as well.
Hey Dr. Grande💗 thank you for the new video! I hope you know how appreciated you really are. This case has always made me scratch my brain. The fact that Holly was so brazenly kidnapped while she was simply walking out to her Mustang to go to nursing school....
@@heathernikki5734 ~You know, I've ALWAYS WONDERED WHYYYY HE DIDN'T CHASE THEM WHILE THEY WERE WALKING INTO THE WOODS. But noooo!! Just sit there in the window watching😡
Dr Grande, I fall asleep with your video’s. Your voice is so relax and I can’t sleep without it. Now I am single but I hope my future husband will get used to your voice….it’s so much better than sleep music. Thank you
I few weeks ago I thought about how you’ve never covered this case and then as soon as I wake up, I see an upload on it. You’re so prolific you really do get around to covering everything I feel!
I just made a comment stating this..so weird to me! I can get interested in a case , even old ones and Dr Grande makes a video on it.. even the old ones Holly's case is 10 years old. I can think up to 3 times this has happened. I think he needs to make a video on this 😂
Carl Jung would call this _synchronicity._ Basically, he says there are no coincidences, and there are only signs pointing to a pattern. Either your subconscious ego is trying to be heard, so to speak, and is showing you an answer you didn't consciously know, or, certain events will always correspond in a particular order. Arnold Zwicky would call it _frequency illusion,_ based on cognitive bias and affirmation bias (maybe it was confirmation bias). You recognize things you know and then you attach meaning to it, while attaching no meaning to unfamiliar ideas or insignificant thoughts. So, hearing about something you have no meaning attached to, goes unnoticed and thinking of things that don't come up again also goes unnoticed. You notice the correlation between your thoughts and a video that's in your feed shortly after. If you ask me, I'm going to say it's both on this idea. And the pattern is that Dr. G often talks about cases relevant to popular culture. _20/20_ just talked about this case. This brings people to the posts and articles that are related both from advertising and people searching the case. Then people are talking about it and you don't notice the first occurrence if you are not paying attention to it in particular. Then you subconsciously think about it and finally, you mull it over in your head consciously. And eventually, coincidences occur. Or maybe you both saw the same thing, it's not that slim of a chance. And even if it was completely random, it's the kind of case you would be interested in and that's also why you watch this channel.
“Probation to confession program ..” 😆 Dr. Grande, always getting it. Also I’ve been wanting to ask you please can you do John Hinckley Junior especially now that he’s been released!! Curious as to your thoughts on his personality and mental health as well as his being deemed safe for society
Sounds like the police didn't know what the hell they were doing. Let's just pin this on this guy since there isn't enough evidence to get the first suspect. If I was the mom I would have been driving home the minute I got the call.
It does sort of seem suspicious that the mother's reaction was for the brother to shoot somebody before they knew that Holly was in serious danger. Getting the gun and confronting the person would have been the thing to do but instead they stay in the house and the mother orders the sun to Grabagun it all does snack of them knowing that they are at risk. For example and of course I have no idea whether it's true but for example if they were in the drug business and they were always worried about being double-crossed or being accused of cheating someone's Orab someone desperate coming to the house demanding free drugs or anything else. When you're engaged in major crime and a lot of money changes hands you're always at risk to die suddenly or have to kill somebody suddenly to save yourself. And that would explain the delay and the discussion and the not involving 911 right away and the mothers leave leaping to that conclusion. It would all seem as though they were worried about someone else in the drug business being hostile and endangering Holly for that reason. And they might have thought that the reason someone would argue with Holly and be confrontational was if they thought that Holly knew enough for someone to confront her and that there was someone who would confront her over something important such as drug money. Whereas if you know there's nothing like that happening and you're not at all sure that's her boyfriend and her boyfriend has just called the house to say I'm turkey hunting and is it okay then you might be much more likely to lead to the conclusion that there is a strange mail in your house who is confronting your daughter who sounds very upset. That's a 911 or at least go out there with a gun and confront the stranger to run him off. And yes the stranger might pull a gun but if it were my sister and I had a gun I would take that chance. And I think no matter how groggy you are as soon as you realize that your sister's life may be in danger you snap to it pretty quickly. And if you don't and your mother says that that's the case your mother shakes your teeth out or grabs the gun herself if they give a damn and they don't have a reason to think that the retaliation will put their own lives in danger even if they run the stranger off. Something stinks. I do think that the loan man Terry Britt probably did the job and all this other stuff is the reason why she wasn't saved and he wasn't caught. I don't think small town law enforcement is at all necessarily lazy or crooked or incompetent. But if there are a lot of undercurrents in the community where everyone knows who's into cooking meth and who's buying and distributing then they may be afraid to speak up. And small town law enforcement are by definition part of a small army of Law enforcers and have every reason to be scared of the local meth cartel. And that may be why they were anxious to put someone away and not to threaten anyone they thought might have actually done it. That's what happens in a small town. It is a tiny Nation onto itself and Justice in Mexico if the drug cartels bigger than law enforcement and law enforcement cooperate and keep their mouths shut. Likewise if the richest person in town is molesting his daughter and everybody keeps quiet and cooperate because in a tiny environment like that someone who was extremely influential and Wealthy Michael be a dictator in many ways. At the least, a celebrity
Yayy, my other favorite shirt! I’ve been binging your Patreon for the last three days. There’s so much good stuff In there! I hope the Grande family is having a nice week so far!
Finally, the Confession Bunny! 💕🐰💕Yesterday I ordered my Confession Bunny water bottle but I was feeling a bit sad because I couldn’t remember the joke/background behind the design.😔 I kept thinking how did I miss it? I have watched all your videos and my memory tends to be good, yet I had no recollection of the it. Anyways, this video has a special meaning to me, so glad to know that my memory didn’t fail me.😜 Excellent analysis Dr. Grande, thank you for everything!❤️ Also, I wanted to let you know that I do love your merch. I have all the designs! In addition, those are good quality products.🙌🏼
Dr. Grande, I'm so impressed by the way you can sift through confusing and contradictory evidence and come up with reasonable, fact-based conclusions. Combined with your sense of humor, this makes your channel fascinating and fun to watch. Thank you.
Very unfair to blame her brother. He just woke up. He thought it was her boyfriend. And honestly, if the mother was so alarmed, why didnt she grab the gun and defend her daughter? I own a 9mm - I'll use it to defend against intruders. I wouldn't ask my son to do it for me and allow my daughter to be abducted. Her brother is a human being, not a robot soldier. Just because he is commanded to shot someone, doesn't mean he should have. Just throwing blame at a man that lost his sister is how investigations go wrong from the start. Law Enforcement did a TERRIBLE job. They just want to round up, people they already want to arrest and blame them.
@@nebulanigrimleonis3883 Her mother is already at work in another county! She received a call call from her neighbor, who informed her about the confrontation. How can you expect her to act?
Dr. Grande great analysis and very good advice. I will be sure not to talk to police without a lawyer present. No confession are coming out of me. Love the confession bunny!!
I'm a true crime junkie so I seen most of these stories at least once. However, it doesn't matter if I've seen it ten times because Dr. Grande's perspective is always refreshing. Not to mention, his dry and sarcastic sense of humor kills me! Nobody else true crime commentary better!
Hi from Australia 🇦🇺 love your show. I would never talk to police without a solicitor/attorney. It's a person's rite yet (a majority) of the media put a negative spin on someone who envokes this rite as if they are automatically guilty. Thank you for your informative and humorous coverage of these cases. Cheers Cassandra 🍻
Dr. Grande, thank you for all your informative and entertaining videos. It has been awhile since you did a video on Borderline Personality Disorder. Is there anyway that you could possibly do a video highlighting the differences between intermittent explosive disorder and BPD?
This case is so bizarre. It's always stuck out to me. What kind of brother doesn't go save his sister? I never considered he was lying before but why would he lie about that? Just very confusing.
Where’s all the physical evidence that the police should have collected? If there was a palm print then there should have been DNA evidence at the site and probably also on the body and the items that the killer discarded. In this day and age we should demand good physical evidence or good reasons why it couldn’t be obtained. As for confessions, they really shouldn’t be accepted by courts if they haven’t been made in the presence of a lawyer acting for the suspect. There’s just too long a history of olive pressuring suspects or just simply verballing them.
Yea the lead detective on the case said it was Terry Brit he even testified on Zack Adams behalf that should tell you all you need to know about this case.
The holly bobo case has bothered me since I first became acquainted with it, and despite its seemingly incongruous resolution, in light of the evidence/facts of the case, there’s surprisingly not as much coverage about it as one might expect. I’m so glad you finally covered it and saw as many issues with the case as I did. In my opinion this was one of the worst cases of false confession/wrongful conviction in a murder case that I’ve ever seen. Seriously troubling….😒 Thank you again for delving into it for us, Dr. Grande!
Dr. Grande...I have been feeling unwell this weekend and have been watching her trial and reading about her case. This is so odd that you are doing a video about her. I also can't tell you how many times I have looked into an old case and you will do a video within a week! It's amazing like you can read my mind and a little scary too!
Dr Grande, would you please look into the case of Chloe Ayling because if it turns out she is guilty then surely she must be psychopathic to condemn two people in the worst place on the planet to be accused of kidnap merely for own grandiose ends and if she is innocent then the way she’s being treated in the courts of public opinion is way out of line Thanks in advance
Clint was SUCH a fool and a coward. He couldn't even open the door and say HEY WHAT'S GOING ON? He knew his sister had a very important nursing exam that day and would not be walking into the woods! And Terry looks NOTHING like Drew. I'd disown Clint if he was my son, what a freaking pansy and I hope he feels guilty bc he SHOULD. I also don't think he's being entirely truthful about what he saw.
Yes!!!! I’m so glad you’re covering this case! I had requested it awhile back and have been hoping/wondering if you saw it (not that it couldn’t have also been requested by someone else too, idk). Anyway, watching the vid now, can’t wait to hear your take!
Lol! Absolutely love the concept of the confession bunny, Doc. I will definitely be purchasing a shirt to help spread awareness of his existence... even though law enforcement is doing a great job of that on their own.
I LOVE The Confession Bunny 🐰, Dr. Grande! ❤️ And the (as always) detailed and witty case analysis. Thank-you! 🙏 I am at home 2day with a fever and sore throat, and am looking 4ward to my "Dr. Grande Marathon Viewing Session" going back at least 3 years (watching BOTH episodes I have already seen AND episodes yet unseen)! I enjoy re-watching old episodes almost as much as I enjoy watching new episodes because I inevitably learn something new AND the jokes and dry wit are always a treat, whether it is my 1st time watching, my 2nd, my 3rd, my 4th....ad infinitum! 😃 On another note, I 100% 💯 believe that the brother (Clint) IS EITHER lying about what happened that morning OR is as dumb as a box of rocks. His story (both about what he saw and what he did that morning) flies in the face of ALL logic and reason. 😳 What did Clint REALLY see and do? Did the police, reporters, an interested party, or an amateur sleuth within or without the community look into Clint? What I want to know includes, but is not limited to, the quality of his relationship with his sister, his criminal history (or lack thereof), the family dynamic behind closed doors, Clint's feelings towards Holly (was there any jealousy between them, or favoritism by the parents towards one over the other?), to give just a few examples. After all, Clint was (according to Clint) the last person (other than the killer) to see Holly alive and well that day. The investigation timeline 🔎 was therefore based on HIS story. I wonder: did the police ever question Clint's story/put IT under a microscope? I don't know if the police officers and detectives involved in this case thoroughly examined and vetted Clint's "story," or if they merely accepted it as fact from Day One. However, Clint's version of events, as Dr. Grande points out here, does not make sense. DID Clint lie? If so, WHY? Was it to protect himself? To protect his friends or family? Because he was threatened by one or more person(s)? OR, RATHER, was Clint TRYING to be accurate in the retelling of what happened that day, but was simply unable to do so because he is SEVERELY intellectually challenged, logic-challenged, street-smarts challenged, on-drugs-24-hours-per-day-challenged, and/or memory challenged, such that knowing and then telling the truth was impossible? 🤔 Fascinating case. Again, BRAVO, Dr. Grande.
Hi Dalia.. I just wanted to reach out to a random person in our little Grande family, that I haven’t met yet, and I landed on your name! I hope you feel better soon, honey. Sometimes god allows us to get sick so that we will slow down and take a little break.. I hope that’s all it is, and that you’re enjoying your binge time! (Omg, Dr Grandes Patreon is like having another entire Grande channel! All new cases that don’t get uploaded here!) Have a great week, and feel better, my friend! Hugs from Las Vegas ❤️
@@BucketHeadianHagg hello 👋 from Boston! Very nice to meet you! I am still in bed, exhausted, but starting to feel better. I agree w/you: sometimes we need a little extra help to force us to rest lol! Yes, this is my favorite channel by far and I love being a member. I don't know how Dr. Grande creates this much content! He is obviously incredibly organized. He makes ME want to be more productive myself lol! I would love to live in Las Vegas-- the hot weather would suit me perfectly. 🥰 Boston is my home but we only have a 2- month summer.🤨😑 Have a great day and thanks for reaching out! 🙂
@@daliakuwait oh my gosh, some of the coolest people I've ever met are from Boston! Matter of fact, I'm a musician for my living, and not only did I meet Steven Tyler, he actually asked me to play a surprise birthday party that he was having for a friend! He was incredibly kind, and so warm and approachable, just like you, because he's also from Boston! My boss, one of my son-in-laws, several of the musicians I play with in a few bands, and even a few family members married people from Boston! All of them, people that are so easy and fun to be around! I'm so happy you replied! It's fun together new people and think about where they live, or what their lives might be like.. I'm meeting so many truly wonderful people on this channel, and I love the content here. Dalia, you're such a sweetie! You took a chance by writing back to a complete stranger, but every so often it turns out great! So, thank you, my new friend from Boston! Please allow someone to baby you while you recover. Or at least just try to sleep as much as you Can, and *drink lots of straight water!* (Sometimes my "grandma side kicks in" cuz I have one of my grandsons here for the summer, so i apologize for all the codependent advice, and bossing you around when you don't feel good! Lol🤗) Sorry for the way too long reply too..🥱 I wish you well, my friend P.S. My 91yr old father has had the same girlfriend for almost 20 years.. Her name is Dalia!
This story is not a surprise, and it hurts. I have served as a jail chaplain. It is painful to hear someone's story of innocence and know it is absolutely true. Police prey on people with learning disabilities. They are easy to confuse, frighten and force a false confession. >> The bunny looks like he will take no sh-t from no bunny. Great job Doc. Hope the Bunny catches on.- Do you ever communicate with Mr Ballen on UA-cam? You really should do a piece together.
Wow. I’m glad I came across this. I have not heard any of these details and just thought these two were guilty. Unbelievable. Being a true crime fan, I’m astonished at the amount of people in law enforcement and the judicial system that are absolutely content with putting people that may be innocent away for life while letting a killer walk free just to have a case “solved”. That being said, I don’t know if these guys are guilty or not, definitely leaning towards not now but a jury did convict them. So that tells you how well jury’s work. They really go on their feelings. I would opt for a bench trial if I were ever accused of a crime I didn’t commit.
Very sad case, and depressing how badly the officers messed up! Absolutely love the Confession Bunny, and how "he possesses phenomenal and seemingly insurmountable powers of persuasion." 😂🐰
Hello Dr. Grande, thank you for another well-presented video. I agree with the final thoughts and respect the idea of the confession Bunny. I certainly hope that the Confession Bunny will help someone. Even if you can help 1 person then the mission of your creation has done its job. These are my personal thoughts. Best Regards. ❤👍
This happened very close to where I live. The thought of being kidnapped from your own home out in our rural area has always been scary. When Holly was missing-it became a reality. I cried for her and think of her often.
Hi Dr Grande! Hi Phil! i wanted to shine some light to what happened in Brazil yesterday with you, since you have this big platform and could hopefully bring some awareness to this. Yesterday a male anesthesiologist, 32 year old, raped (and was caught on camera) a woman undergoing a C section, while she was sedated. This went on for 10 minutes. He was arrested at the hospital but i mean, all this was going on WHILE THE OPERATION WAS HAPPENING. I didn’t see any international coverage on this matter. I hope you can help! 💗
I'd really like you to talk about convicted killer Erica Stefanko (Ohio case). I think you'll find it's a very interesting case, Dr. Grande. Please check it out because I'd love to see your analysis of that messed up situation. (I watched so much of the trial on youtube)
There was a real absence of the mention of drugs in this case, yet the crazy rumors about the brother and even bf seem to float around without being addressed by the mother or police. The witness testimony was thoroughly disgusting. They sanitized this case for sure to facilitate a conviction. They make sure to say that the brother leads a good life...now. As for the witness, he should have gotten life just on his own testimony.
I followed this distressing case for quite a while, and was relieved when a suspect was actually charged and convicted. I didn't know about the discrepancies, however. Very concerning. I would like to say I'm not comfortable tarring all law enforcement officers with the same brush, though. As in all walks of life, there are those who are honorable and capable, and those who aren't.
I have no issue doing it. The ones who arent "complicit" at this point are presumptively accepting and agreeing unless they are doing , on their part, things or thing that is dependant on the Situation etc
Another great analysis, on notably tragic miscarriage of justice after a murder. Your new expansion into use of graphic artist contracting to produce some humorous merchandise is a fine idea! I hope you continue to experiment and hit some big successes. I watch some videos by an a criminal defense attorney who has some "don't snitch on yourself" hats and merchandise. He did some fine summaries and analysis of the recent Depp defamation case.
I live in a neighboring county to where this happened. It was heartbreaking to see her mother's unimaginable grief. A beautiful life, taken for no reason. The testimony of Jason Autry convicted Zachary Adams. In it, he claimed Holly's brother was, "learning to make meth the morning she was taken..." which is why this man was at the home. He said she nagged her brother over this, and then she was killed...Smh. Are we to believe that Adams murdered Bobo, but refuse to believe the meth making part? Treat the testimony like a buffet, pick and choose what you want, and ignore the rest?
I agree and I’ve heard that too. Even if brother was involved in meth making what was the murderers motive ? Meth heads do a lot of things. But I can’t understand this one
Thank you for telling the truth about police techniques. Everybody should hear this and keep it in mind in case they somehow become connected with a crime.
Heartbreaking 💔 but nevertheless, another fascinating analysis Dr. Grande. May I recommend an evaluation on "The Greatest" Muhammad Ali. One of my heros that I looked up to growing up (still is) with a larger-than-life personality. I feel he can be a fascinating subject with layers of complexities
Hi Dr. Grande. I hope your having a fabulous evening. This is the first time I've heard of this case. There was a similar case on Dr. Phil recently about a guy that went to prison for killing his family & now it's been said that he didn't do it so he's asking for release. Thanks for another spectacular analysis. Peace & awesome times hopefully await you, love to you & your family as well, peace, Janine Smiley🙂😀🤩😍😎☕👍👟👡👞👠👑👒💎💍💄📿🌺🌹🌷👗👔🦓🦊🐅🐆🐶🦊🐺
First I had heard they were 'both on their knees facing each other on the garage floor'...wtf? Sounds like there was a struggle, or he went for her keys and threw them. I was attacked by my ex-husband the day after a child support hearing. He was waiting outside the garage for me when I opened the door to go to work. I had no idea he was there. As I started the car he jumped in the passenger side door of my grand prix, grabbed my metal thermos and held my head down on the center counsel and just started hitting me in the left side of the head over and over. I thought I was going to die. I think after about 10 strikes he stopped because blood was splattered at that point even on the headliner. He made sure to dump whatever hot coffee was left in it on me before he got out. I ended up with a broken jaw, stitches, 2 black eyes, and needed brain decompression a few years later. He got a year in jail. Must be a hot spot for a$$holes to lie-in-wait - outside the garage. I sold the car, drove it straight to the dealership and traded it in within a few days because I couldn't stand to even look at the car, clean out the blood, or anything.
@Andre Kerr I had a CCW in a State (Michigan) where they were extremely hard to get, plus a device to wear to press for the police to literally call them if he showed up, they considered him such a threat. Nothing can really prepare you for a blitz attack in the early morning. But the garage leaving the house...this was the first I ever heard of Holly Bobo on the floor with her killer. Brought me right back. Warning to anyone with disgruntled exes. Also with crime what it is - when you leave your house these days, in some places especially, you step into the food chain.
So sorry that happened to you. How did your ex get such a lenient jail sentence? What State? If you don't mind? In my State, Florida, he would've probably gotten at least 10 years in prison, and had to serve a minimum of 85%, so at least 8 1/2 years with good behavior.
@Andre Kerr Michigan - He hired a former prosecutor that got the judge to throw out the assault charge; what he was actually jailed for was *taking away my cell phone and throwing it in the toilet* so I couldn't call 911, a federal crime punishable by 1 year. His lawyer was friends with Judge. Rich pos. It's been 15 years and karma has been slowly but surely paying him back in spades. I live far, far away in Florida now.
@@RadChick Good for you. I know what that is all too well. Law enforcement and justice can have a side as dark as organized crime. I was incarcerated for a crime I did not do. The main force behind it was my ex's uncle. At one time he was the top prosecutor, his court proceedings against organized crime were famously broadcast on TV. From the second the cuffs went on it was a very bad trip. They actually put me in a prison wing with a gang of Hells Angels and spread the word I was one of a certain Italian leader's main guy. It's not always just bad paperwork. The prosecutor had a strong record, he used family members, including my ex to illegally obtain information. They worked in the revenue service and banks. So, he was able to provide his police friends with loads of confidential and illegal information, made him very popular snd poweful. Florida is certainly the place to escape 'organized justice' or any form of organization. Are you secure now? He must have been angry even though he only served a fraction of what he should have. I remember you talking about the car... It must have been a close call. Take care.
Just a suggestion… but if the confession bunny had a wall clock indicating lunchtime and a pastrami sandwich decked out with everything…. Only takes a confession and it’s yours! That is an often retold confession room strategy because it is effective.
Important to note that the non-profit group Without Warning investigated this case after being asked by the Bobo family due to the TBI not having any suspects or evidence. Without Warning learned that TBI agents were obsessed with one suspect to the point of ignoring other potential suspects and not even investigating the alibis of these potential suspects (Austin/Adams/Autry). TBI began harassing Without Warning and even demanded all of their files and evidence despite being offered all of it previously by the non profit group. At the top of their suspect list was Adams/Austin/Autry.
Hi, to whom is your last sentence referring, @PaulDoe79 ? Thank you. Edit: to clarify, did you mean those three men (Adams, Austin and Autry) were TBI's suspects or were they the suspects of the Without Warning organization?
@americatruecrime hey wasn't directed at anyone in specific, just people interested in this case. Without Warning had Autry/Adams/Austin at the top of their list of suspects. They were the ones who learned that TBI hadn't bothered to investigate their alibis properly because they were hyper focused on Terry Britt. I believe Without Warning launched a lawsuit against TBI for their treatment. They weren't being paid and were asked by the Bobo family for assistance because nothing was getting done. And they were always offering their evidence to TBI so when they were suddenly the target of search warrants and had their computers and files confiscated they were confused. I'll try to find the video link of the news interview done with the Without Warning group.
@@PaulDoe79 I didn't think you were directing anything towards anyone, I was just asking about who had the suspects on their suspect list first. Thank you for the reply. Such video would be good to locate and view. Who was supposed to be paying Without Warning such that they were not being paid? The BoBo family asked them to look into the case? Thank you again.
@timweb1510 I think Autry is a pathological liar who will say anything to help himself. Let's say he lied in court... this shows he was willing to put his own friend, an innocent man, in prison. But forget Autry. Austin, before killing himself, was also working with law enforcement in exchange for immunity. He told them the same thing Autry said in his testimony. Austin was supposed to lead law enforcement to Holly's remains and when he didn't (or couldn't due to Adams moving the remains) the immunity agreement was null and void.
Thank you for your honest assessment laced with humour! ❤It's so sad that police can't be trusted! Growing up, I was a bit scared of cops because of one encounter, but then later a cop picked me up at the side of the road when I'd wiped out on my bike and skinned my knee. He was super nice and let me ride in the front with him, and took me home. When I was older, cops came after a family member committed a violent assault against their partner, found me traumatized, and took me to a friend's house to be safe and recover. It wasn't until I watched police mercilessly beat a group of peaceful protestors near my home that I truly realized how careful you have to be. I miss my former idealism.
I remember watching a documentary on the murder of Angie Dodge. In her case a man who was innocent was convicted of her murder and sent to prison. Angie’s mother ended up believing in the man and helped to have him released. I was impressed with the mom and how hard she fought to find the TRUTH. She made a statement that stuck with me …. She said ,” I don’t want SOMEBODY to pay for killing my daughter, I want the person who killed her to pay for it !”
I think I’m so many cases the police and even the victim’s families just want somebody, anybody to be convicted, rather than searching for truth.
Great work Dr Grande.
This happens so often. Apparently AD ignore the Constitution where it says you are presumed innocent until proving you are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Everyone in this needs to know that.
Christopher Tapp. Crazy story
So accurate.
I saw that case on one of the crime shows. You are right.
Having lived with a retired police officer, I'd also consider confessing to a murder I didn't commit to escape
ROFL!
Yikes lmao
That sounds awful! Was it a parent? Lol!?
Hahah ! 😂
Then maybe you have mental issues.
It's an insult to that poor girls memory sending the wrong people to prison, and allowing the real killer to walk free.
🐖 areevil.
It's also a huge insult that her brother Clint was just standing by posted up watching her get taken away. This case has ALWAYS boiled my blood. Honestly, every single time I listen to her case & her birthdate is mentioned, my ❤️ sinks bc Holly & I were born exactly 1 year & 2 days apart in age. I know that seems silly... it just really really hits me with this case.
@@annalisegiovanni7032 It doesn't sound silly at all Annalise, being so close in age you will understand just how tragic it is for someone to lose their life when it was only really starting. 😢
@@maureeningleston1501 ~Thank you so much for being so nice & understanding🙏💗🥺
@@annalisegiovanni7032 I totally agree! She's 5 years younger than me and was just trying to start her life. Her bro is a joke and whoever killed her deserves the DP
Ugh, these small town "law enforcement" departments are always so freaking clueless when it comes to murder investigations - it's such a disservice to the victims & their families 😡😐☹️
Small towns don't generally investigate murders.
They’re far from clueless. They know “dinners at home and I gotta get to it.” (The Night the Lights went out in Georgia reference)
Yes. Practice makes perfect and they don't get much practice.
And in big cities murders rarely get solved at all because of lack of resources and vast number of crimes happening.
Yes, I live in one and can contest to this. The TBI stated that it was the most expensive search in Tennessee history. Not one law enforcement officer found any clues at all. It was ordinary citizens that found clues and called them in to come out.
I dig the Confession Bunny. Turns out, they reproduce at an astonishing rate -- unlike Australia's Confession Kangaroo, who wears boxing gloves, but has a low reproductive rate.
LOL Bang on mate!
Great comment from an Australian.
Are the gloves part of the problem?
@@bthomson No my friend, they have short paws lol.😂
@@bthomson It's really interesting to see a kangaroo giving birth. If you can put it in into your search engine, and all you need to say is "do you have a video of a kangaroo giving birth " it's fascinating too watch.
As it turned out Holly's Mother's instinct and instruction to shoot the strange male SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED
Clint was so cowardly some people think he was involved
It does kind of sound like she knew exactly who it was, doesn’t it?
It’s easy to say in hindsight what someone should or should not had done. In the moment it is really not so straightforward.
@@heathernikki5734 That comes to mind. My sons would never just watch someone doing something to their little sister. Weird...
@@jamaaldavis6243 I agree, Jamaal. Assuming that the brother is reporting exactly what he saw and heard truthfully, nothing can be held against him. He’d just waked up and had it in his head that it was her boyfriend. However, for the mother to go from “that’s not Drew” to “shoot him” immediately is quite a leap if she didn’t know who it was and that Holly was in danger.
This is just purely insane, Dr Grande! The amount of time you dedicate to create this type of a content. From the bottom of my heart, I deeply appreciate what you do. You make my days&nights. Simply the best so far💎
Dr. Grande is always worth a thumbs up, if not for the content then for the work he puts in.
God I think of Holly BoBo a lot. This murder happened extremely close to me, and I remember hoping that she’d make it home alive. Such a tragedy. I hate that she still can’t rest in peace and that she nor her family will have justice.
Such a nice looking girl. People can be so cruel or do the most terrible things ...and there's no going back. Evil is sometimes found in places you would'nt believe. Hope you are doing allright. 🖖🍀
The TBI other LE and court did a terrible job all the way around. The only thing good to come from it , is her family got her remains for a proper burial. She has never received justice.
Evil is all around us, we just refuse to acknowledge it, or don't know what to look for. That's why I strongly suggest Citizens carry some sort of defensive weapon, be it a firearm, folding knife of size sufficient to cause serious harm to an assailant, or pepper spray. And don't hesitate to use it if your life is threatened. Don't bluff or threaten with it. The latter two, especially,
should be considered stealth weapons. As seen in Ms Bobo's case, you are not safe anywhere, not even in your own home or yard.
There's probably more to this case than Dr. Grande has put forward, but the police many times seem to take the easy way out. I strongly agree no witness should talk to police without a criminal lawyer, especially the innocent.
@@jacquelynskye295 Of course. I stand with the blue. Be that as it may, one should always protect oneself when talking to any police.
@@nitasheehan2704 ACAB
@@darkcrystalmagik3369 No.
The brother's actions are very suspicious in this case. He literally watched his sister being kidnapped and did very little to prevent it. It was suggested somewhere that he was involved with drugs and that he may have thought the assailant was connected to his dealer. It doesn't make sense that a brother would call around looking for instructions rather than simply act.
It was 100% Zach Adams. Jason Autrys testimony was the main reason he was convicted, not the confession.
@@penskepc2374 I have to say, when I watched the trial I felt that Jason Autry’s testimony was a pack of lies, but I also remember getting the impression that her brother Clint was not suspicious and was just groggy and confused
@@owl-of-athena the defense would of had at least one "gotcha" moment if he way lying, but they didn't.
Maybe..he did that to his brother 🤷🏻♀️
Clints story absolutely doesn't make sense
Wow this is crazy to hear. I was born and raised in Tennessee and I just remember for years(between 2011-2014) there would be coverage of her case on the local news at least once a week. at the time it was all about her 'disappearance.' To be grown now and hear all of this being what happened is crazy to hear.
There’s a TED talk on YT about how accurate people are at spotting a liar. Compared to random luck, parents to social workers, to peers to cops all rated the same as the percentage of chance. Anyone can be fooled.
Even if you look at real behavioural experts, the number one thing I hear from the credible ones is “we can *not* tell you that they’re lying, only that there’s signs of stress that could be indicative of deception.”
I’ve heard something to that effect countless times. The ones who actually know what they’re doing know how to spot when something changes in a long conversation and dig into it, even the best can’t watch someone make a single statement or pair of statements and do anything better than guess at the credibility. And even with the best evidence it’s a game of probabilities not an exact science.
“The only way an old Nissan Frontier could achieve the speed of even 120 miles per hour, is by being dropped by an airplane” lol 😂
I just watched this episode on 20/20 two nights ago. What a heartbreaking and frustrating loss
The Confession Bunny’s Magic is called the “Reid Technique “ which is what the Police use to extract confessions from suspects.
I was so confused with all the guys names. Would have been nice to keep their photos and names on the screen.
This comment is unrelated to the video. I still have your old videos on mental health topics come up on my algorithm on You Tube, and I am reminded how helpful, instructive aand well researched they are. You were able to clearly explain mental health conditions in a way that was both professional, intellectual and experiential while making things very clear for a person who may not really know much about the mental health condition being discussed. I would really like to see more of those videos mixed in with the true crime. I like the true crime videos, but I also like the more didactic videos as well.
I second this 100%
Dr. Grande, you need your UA-cam plaque!! Been a follower since day 1, and am awestruck by how fast your channel has grown!
I’ve heard about this case many times , and yet I learned some new things during this video. Always the best case analysis. Thanks Dr. Grande.🤠💕
So due to cop incompetence the wrong person sits in prison and the real killer is free. Great.
Hey Dr. Grande💗 thank you for the new video! I hope you know how appreciated you really are. This case has always made me scratch my brain. The fact that Holly was so brazenly kidnapped while she was simply walking out to her Mustang to go to nursing school....
With her COWARD of a brother a few feet away with full access to a gun
@@heathernikki5734 ~Facts💯 The first red flag should have gone up when he said they were both on their knees talking. Like.... TF?!
@@heathernikki5734 ~You know, I've ALWAYS WONDERED WHYYYY HE DIDN'T CHASE THEM WHILE THEY WERE WALKING INTO THE WOODS. But noooo!! Just sit there in the window watching😡
Dr Grande, I fall asleep with your video’s. Your voice is so relax and I can’t sleep without it. Now I am single but I hope my future husband will get used to your voice….it’s so much better than sleep music. Thank you
I few weeks ago I thought about how you’ve never covered this case and then as soon as I wake up, I see an upload on it. You’re so prolific you really do get around to covering everything I feel!
You went to sleep a few weeks ago and only woke up today?
I just made a comment stating this..so weird to me! I can get interested in a case , even old ones and Dr Grande makes a video on it.. even the old ones Holly's case is 10 years old. I can think up to 3 times this has happened. I think he needs to make a video on this 😂
Carl Jung would call this _synchronicity._ Basically, he says there are no coincidences, and there are only signs pointing to a pattern. Either your subconscious ego is trying to be heard, so to speak, and is showing you an answer you didn't consciously know, or, certain events will always correspond in a particular order.
Arnold Zwicky would call it _frequency illusion,_ based on cognitive bias and affirmation bias (maybe it was confirmation bias). You recognize things you know and then you attach meaning to it, while attaching no meaning to unfamiliar ideas or insignificant thoughts. So, hearing about something you have no meaning attached to, goes unnoticed and thinking of things that don't come up again also goes unnoticed. You notice the correlation between your thoughts and a video that's in your feed shortly after.
If you ask me, I'm going to say it's both on this idea. And the pattern is that Dr. G often talks about cases relevant to popular culture. _20/20_ just talked about this case. This brings people to the posts and articles that are related both from advertising and people searching the case. Then people are talking about it and you don't notice the first occurrence if you are not paying attention to it in particular. Then you subconsciously think about it and finally, you mull it over in your head consciously. And eventually, coincidences occur. Or maybe you both saw the same thing, it's not that slim of a chance. And even if it was completely random, it's the kind of case you would be interested in and that's also why you watch this channel.
“Probation to confession program ..” 😆 Dr. Grande, always getting it. Also I’ve been wanting to ask you please can you do John Hinckley Junior especially now that he’s been released!! Curious as to your thoughts on his personality and mental health as well as his being deemed safe for society
Sounds like the police didn't know what the hell they were doing. Let's just pin this on this guy since there isn't enough evidence to get the first suspect. If I was the mom I would have been driving home the minute I got the call.
No, they have the right guys. If you do even an hour or so of research on this case and watch Jason Autrys testimony it's exceedingly obvious.
It does sort of seem suspicious that the mother's reaction was for the brother to shoot somebody before they knew that Holly was in serious danger. Getting the gun and confronting the person would have been the thing to do but instead they stay in the house and the mother orders the sun to Grabagun it all does snack of them knowing that they are at risk. For example and of course I have no idea whether it's true but for example if they were in the drug business and they were always worried about being double-crossed or being accused of cheating someone's Orab someone desperate coming to the house demanding free drugs or anything else. When you're engaged in major crime and a lot of money changes hands you're always at risk to die suddenly or have to kill somebody suddenly to save yourself. And that would explain the delay and the discussion and the not involving 911 right away and the mothers leave leaping to that conclusion. It would all seem as though they were worried about someone else in the drug business being hostile and endangering Holly for that reason. And they might have thought that the reason someone would argue with Holly and be confrontational was if they thought that Holly knew enough for someone to confront her and that there was someone who would confront her over something important such as drug money. Whereas if you know there's nothing like that happening and you're not at all sure that's her boyfriend and her boyfriend has just called the house to say I'm turkey hunting and is it okay then you might be much more likely to lead to the conclusion that there is a strange mail in your house who is confronting your daughter who sounds very upset. That's a 911 or at least go out there with a gun and confront the stranger to run him off. And yes the stranger might pull a gun but if it were my sister and I had a gun I would take that chance. And I think no matter how groggy you are as soon as you realize that your sister's life may be in danger you snap to it pretty quickly. And if you don't and your mother says that that's the case your mother shakes your teeth out or grabs the gun herself if they give a damn and they don't have a reason to think that the retaliation will put their own lives in danger even if they run the stranger off. Something stinks. I do think that the loan man Terry Britt probably did the job and all this other stuff is the reason why she wasn't saved and he wasn't caught. I don't think small town law enforcement is at all necessarily lazy or crooked or incompetent. But if there are a lot of undercurrents in the community where everyone knows who's into cooking meth and who's buying and distributing then they may be afraid to speak up. And small town law enforcement are by definition part of a small army of Law enforcers and have every reason to be scared of the local meth cartel. And that may be why they were anxious to put someone away and not to threaten anyone they thought might have actually done it. That's what happens in a small town. It is a tiny Nation onto itself and Justice in Mexico if the drug cartels bigger than law enforcement and law enforcement cooperate and keep their mouths shut. Likewise if the richest person in town is molesting his daughter and everybody keeps quiet and cooperate because in a tiny environment like that someone who was extremely influential and Wealthy Michael be a dictator in many ways. At the least, a celebrity
@@myfirstnamemylastname2994 Stop watching so many movies and rejoin us in reality. Jesus.
@@penskepc2374 Do you still believe jason
Yayy, my other favorite shirt! I’ve been binging your Patreon for the last three days. There’s so much good stuff In there! I hope the Grande family is having a nice week so far!
Finally, the Confession Bunny! 💕🐰💕Yesterday I ordered my Confession Bunny water bottle but I was feeling a bit sad because I couldn’t remember the joke/background behind the design.😔 I kept thinking how did I miss it? I have watched all your videos and my memory tends to be good, yet I had no recollection of the it. Anyways, this video has a special meaning to me, so glad to know that my memory didn’t fail me.😜
Excellent analysis Dr. Grande, thank you for everything!❤️
Also, I wanted to let you know that I do love your merch. I have all the designs! In addition, those are good quality products.🙌🏼
Dr. Grande, I'm so impressed by the way you can sift through confusing and contradictory evidence and come up with reasonable, fact-based conclusions. Combined with your sense of humor, this makes your channel fascinating and fun to watch. Thank you.
The Confession Bunny,
Hopping through the crime scene,
Scooping up all the evidence,
And getting inside your head.
Holly's brother dropped the ball big time. His lack of action doesn't sit right with me.
Doesn't
Something is definitely off with his story, making me wonder if he had a part in this.
Very unfair to blame her brother. He just woke up. He thought it was her boyfriend. And honestly, if the mother was so alarmed, why didnt she grab the gun and defend her daughter? I own a 9mm - I'll use it to defend against intruders. I wouldn't ask my son to do it for me and allow my daughter to be abducted. Her brother is a human being, not a robot soldier. Just because he is commanded to shot someone, doesn't mean he should have.
Just throwing blame at a man that lost his sister is how investigations go wrong from the start. Law Enforcement did a TERRIBLE job. They just want to round up, people they already want to arrest and blame them.
@@nebulanigrimleonis3883 Her mother is already at work in another county! She received a call call from her neighbor, who informed her about the confrontation. How can you expect her to act?
@@nebulanigrimleonis3883 I didn't technically blame him, it's just odd. Nothing about this story adds up.
14:30 Thank You! Finally somebody else is saying it. Don’t get me started on the D.A. and his conviction rate.
Do not speak to the police without a defense attorney.
Do not submit to a polygraph.
Just don’t do it.
Does it really matter if you do a polygraph or not?
Dr. Grande great analysis and very good advice. I will be sure not to talk to police without a lawyer present.
No confession are coming out of me. Love the confession bunny!!
Your sarcasm helped to quell my anger so thanks
I'm a true crime junkie so I seen most of these stories at least once. However, it doesn't matter if I've seen it ten times because Dr. Grande's perspective is always refreshing. Not to mention, his dry and sarcastic sense of humor kills me! Nobody else true crime commentary better!
Nobody helps me get an understand the human psyche as well as you do. I humbly thank you for all your hard work. Take care ❤
Hi from Australia 🇦🇺 love your show. I would never talk to police without a solicitor/attorney. It's a person's rite yet (a majority) of the media put a negative spin on someone who envokes this rite as if they are automatically guilty. Thank you for your informative and humorous coverage of these cases. Cheers Cassandra 🍻
I heard it's easier to avoid a murder charge than a clot shot in your country. Is that true?
OMFG. Someone FINALLY agrees with me about this case.
Dr. Grande, thank you for all your informative and entertaining videos. It has been awhile since you did a video on Borderline Personality Disorder. Is there anyway that you could possibly do a video highlighting the differences between intermittent explosive disorder and BPD?
This case is so bizarre. It's always stuck out to me. What kind of brother doesn't go save his sister? I never considered he was lying before but why would he lie about that? Just very confusing.
Where’s all the physical evidence that the police should have collected? If there was a palm print then there should have been DNA evidence at the site and probably also on the body and the items that the killer discarded. In this day and age we should demand good physical evidence or good reasons why it couldn’t be obtained.
As for confessions, they really shouldn’t be accepted by courts if they haven’t been made in the presence of a lawyer acting for the suspect. There’s just too long a history of olive pressuring suspects or just simply verballing them.
There probably should have been?
Yea the lead detective on the case said it was Terry Brit he even testified on Zack Adams behalf that should tell you all you need to know about this case.
The brother's actions or lack there of are perplexing
This has been concerning to me for years. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Clint’s lack of urgency astounds me. Like dude, you have hella guns, go and save your sister
The holly bobo case has bothered me since I first became acquainted with it, and despite its seemingly incongruous resolution, in light of the evidence/facts of the case, there’s surprisingly not as much coverage about it as one might expect. I’m so glad you finally covered it and saw as many issues with the case as I did. In my opinion this was one of the worst cases of false confession/wrongful conviction in a murder case that I’ve ever seen. Seriously troubling….😒
Thank you again for delving into it for us, Dr. Grande!
Dr. Grande...I have been feeling unwell this weekend and have been watching her trial and reading about her case. This is so odd that you are doing a video about her. I also can't tell you how many times I have looked into an old case and you will do a video within a week! It's amazing like you can read my mind and a little scary too!
Good Day, Dr. Grande. Listening intently. 👌
Great video! The first time seeing it and I find the analysis amazing. Thanks so much Dr. Todd Grande.
Dr Grande, would you please look into the case of Chloe Ayling because if it turns out she is guilty then surely she must be psychopathic to condemn two people in the worst place on the planet to be accused of kidnap merely for own grandiose ends and if she is innocent then the way she’s being treated in the courts of public opinion is way out of line
Thanks in advance
Clint was SUCH a fool and a coward. He couldn't even open the door and say HEY WHAT'S GOING ON? He knew his sister had a very important nursing exam that day and would not be walking into the woods! And Terry looks NOTHING like Drew. I'd disown Clint if he was my son, what a freaking pansy and I hope he feels guilty bc he SHOULD. I also don't think he's being entirely truthful about what he saw.
You have a lot of anger issues.
Well said
@@a.jlondon9039 idk I would struggle with that as well, feeling highly resentful toward the son, if I were the mom.
@@leahsmith2078 you really don't have enough info to make any kind of call, he was basically a child.
@@penskepc2374 no he wasn't lol. He's older!
Yes!!!! I’m so glad you’re covering this case! I had requested it awhile back and have been hoping/wondering if you saw it (not that it couldn’t have also been requested by someone else too, idk). Anyway, watching the vid now, can’t wait to hear your take!
Lol! Absolutely love the concept of the confession bunny, Doc. I will definitely be purchasing a shirt to help spread awareness of his existence... even though law enforcement is doing a great job of that on their own.
I love Dr Grande's tone and subtle sarcasm spikes 😁
Excellent video analysis with little to go on. Thank you for the awesome video, Dr. Grande!
You are on a roll with my favorite cases!!!
I LOVE The Confession Bunny 🐰, Dr. Grande! ❤️ And the (as always) detailed and witty case analysis. Thank-you! 🙏
I am at home 2day with a fever and sore throat, and am looking 4ward to my "Dr. Grande Marathon Viewing Session" going back at least 3 years (watching BOTH episodes I have already seen AND episodes yet unseen)! I enjoy re-watching old episodes almost as much as I enjoy watching new episodes because I inevitably learn something new AND the jokes and dry wit are always a treat, whether it is my 1st time watching, my 2nd, my 3rd, my 4th....ad infinitum! 😃
On another note, I 100% 💯 believe that the brother (Clint) IS EITHER lying about what happened that morning OR is as dumb as a box of rocks. His story (both about what he saw and what he did that morning) flies in the face of ALL logic and reason. 😳
What did Clint REALLY see and do? Did the police, reporters, an interested party, or an amateur sleuth within or without the community look into Clint?
What I want to know includes, but is not limited to, the quality of his relationship with his sister, his criminal history (or lack thereof), the family dynamic behind closed doors, Clint's feelings towards Holly (was there any jealousy between them, or favoritism by the parents towards one over the other?), to give just a few examples.
After all, Clint was (according to Clint) the last person (other than the killer) to see Holly alive and well that day. The investigation timeline 🔎 was therefore based on HIS story. I wonder: did the police ever question Clint's story/put IT under a microscope? I don't know if the police officers and detectives involved in this case thoroughly examined and vetted Clint's "story," or if they merely accepted it as fact from Day One. However, Clint's version of events, as Dr. Grande points out here, does not make sense. DID Clint lie? If so, WHY? Was it to protect himself? To protect his friends or family? Because he was threatened by one or more person(s)? OR, RATHER, was Clint TRYING to be accurate in the retelling of what happened that day, but was simply unable to do so because he is SEVERELY intellectually challenged, logic-challenged, street-smarts challenged, on-drugs-24-hours-per-day-challenged, and/or memory challenged, such that knowing and then telling the truth was impossible? 🤔
Fascinating case. Again, BRAVO, Dr. Grande.
Hi Dalia.. I just wanted to reach out to a random person in our little Grande family, that I haven’t met yet, and I landed on your name! I hope you feel better soon, honey. Sometimes god allows us to get sick so that we will slow down and take a little break.. I hope that’s all it is, and that you’re enjoying your binge time! (Omg, Dr Grandes Patreon is like having another entire Grande channel! All new cases that don’t get uploaded here!) Have a great week, and feel better, my friend! Hugs from Las Vegas ❤️
"On-drugs-24 hours a day challenged"...good one
@@BucketHeadianHagg hello 👋 from Boston! Very nice to meet you! I am still in bed, exhausted, but starting to feel better. I agree w/you: sometimes we need a little extra help to force us to rest lol! Yes, this is my favorite channel by far and I love being a member. I don't know how Dr. Grande creates this much content! He is obviously incredibly organized. He makes ME want to be more productive myself lol! I would love to live in Las Vegas-- the hot weather would suit me perfectly. 🥰 Boston is my home but we only have a 2- month summer.🤨😑 Have a great day and thanks for reaching out! 🙂
@@wandamelvin1469 😄 Well, there is definitely something wrong with him. I would be so frustrated w/him if I were the mother!
@@daliakuwait oh my gosh, some of the coolest people I've ever met are from Boston! Matter of fact, I'm a musician for my living, and not only did I meet Steven Tyler, he actually asked me to play a surprise birthday party that he was having for a friend! He was incredibly kind, and so warm and approachable, just like you, because he's also from Boston! My boss, one of my son-in-laws, several of the musicians I play with in a few bands, and even a few family members married people from Boston! All of them, people that are so easy and fun to be around! I'm so happy you replied! It's fun together new people and think about where they live, or what their lives might be like.. I'm meeting so many truly wonderful people on this channel, and I love the content here.
Dalia, you're such a sweetie! You took a chance by writing back to a complete stranger, but every so often it turns out great! So, thank you, my new friend from Boston!
Please allow someone to baby you while you recover. Or at least just try to sleep as much as you Can, and *drink lots of straight water!*
(Sometimes my "grandma side kicks in" cuz I have one of my grandsons here for the summer, so i apologize for all the codependent advice, and bossing you around when you don't feel good! Lol🤗)
Sorry for the way too long reply too..🥱
I wish you well, my friend
P.S. My 91yr old father has had the same girlfriend for almost 20 years.. Her name is Dalia!
This story is not a surprise, and it hurts. I have served as a jail chaplain. It is painful to hear someone's story of innocence and know it is absolutely true. Police prey on people with learning disabilities. They are easy to confuse, frighten and force a false confession. >> The bunny looks like he will take no sh-t from no bunny. Great job Doc. Hope the Bunny catches on.- Do you ever communicate with Mr Ballen on UA-cam? You really should do a piece together.
How could you possibly know whether such a story is true?
I love all these new uploads! Can you do a video on Susan Walsh?
So sad. As a mother, can’t imagine. And crooked cops in every town, despicable.
"Every town" indeed.
I completely agree with your analysis.. Zach is innocent and got railroaded by the police . I really hope he gets some justice .
Oh ho ho, DOC. Finally get to purchase a Tshirt and support you properly. Confession Bunny shall be my new totem. Well done.
Wow. I’m glad I came across this. I have not heard any of these details and just thought these two were guilty. Unbelievable. Being a true crime fan, I’m astonished at the amount of people in law enforcement and the judicial system that are absolutely content with putting people that may be innocent away for life while letting a killer walk free just to have a case “solved”. That being said, I don’t know if these guys are guilty or not, definitely leaning towards not now but a jury did convict them. So that tells you how well jury’s work. They really go on their feelings. I would opt for a bench trial if I were ever accused of a crime I didn’t commit.
Very sad case, and depressing how badly the officers messed up!
Absolutely love the Confession Bunny, and how "he possesses phenomenal and seemingly insurmountable powers of persuasion." 😂🐰
Good morning! ☀️ Thank you!
Hello Dr. Grande, thank you for another well-presented video. I agree with the final thoughts and respect the idea of the confession Bunny. I certainly hope that the Confession Bunny will help someone. Even if you can help 1 person then the mission of your creation has done its job. These are my personal thoughts. Best Regards. ❤👍
This happened very close to where I live. The thought of being kidnapped from your own home out in our rural area has always been scary. When Holly was missing-it became a reality. I cried for her and think of her often.
Hi Dr Grande! Hi Phil! i wanted to shine some light to what happened in Brazil yesterday with you, since you have this big platform and could hopefully bring some awareness to this. Yesterday a male anesthesiologist, 32 year old, raped (and was caught on camera) a woman undergoing a C section, while she was sedated. This went on for 10 minutes. He was arrested at the hospital but i mean, all this was going on WHILE THE OPERATION WAS HAPPENING. I didn’t see any international coverage on this matter. I hope you can help! 💗
The suspect is of a certain ethno-religious group and this type of behavior is quite common among them. Best you learn and avoid them. Peace!
I'd really like you to talk about convicted killer Erica Stefanko (Ohio case). I think you'll find it's a very interesting case, Dr. Grande. Please check it out because I'd love to see your analysis of that messed up situation. (I watched so much of the trial on youtube)
There was a real absence of the mention of drugs in this case, yet the crazy rumors about the brother and even bf seem to float around without being addressed by the mother or police. The witness testimony was thoroughly disgusting. They sanitized this case for sure to facilitate a conviction. They make sure to say that the brother leads a good life...now. As for the witness, he should have gotten life just on his own testimony.
Great analysis again. Thanks Dr G😉🖤🖤
Hello my friend. Noah had his immunization today, he doesn't like me at all, can only feed him, then he wants Steve 😢😜❤💙✉🎋🎋🎋
Always interesting.
Thank you.
Peace 💕🇺🇲
Nice, coffee break with Dr G!
Yesss confession bunny go offff
Why does confession Bunny look familiar? hmmm it's giving me tough grande vibes hahaha I love it!
I love the Confession Bunny!
Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! ❤️ The Confession Bunny is great! 🤣🐰
Thanks Dr. Grande! ☀️ 😃
"That's not drew. Shoot him."
"You want me to shoot Drew?" 🔫
Good lord what a conversation
I would have been losing my mind...what a wimp
Dr grande have you considered doing video on wendy Williams?
I followed this distressing case for quite a while, and was relieved when a suspect was actually charged and convicted. I didn't know about the discrepancies, however. Very concerning. I would like to say I'm not comfortable tarring all law enforcement officers with the same brush, though. As in all walks of life, there are those who are honorable and capable, and those who aren't.
I have no issue doing it. The ones who arent "complicit" at this point are presumptively accepting and agreeing unless they are doing , on their part, things or thing that is dependant on the Situation etc
ACAB
You’re putting in the work 😉👍🏻
Excellent
Thanks for the good advice and the confession bunny!
Another great analysis, on notably tragic miscarriage of justice after a murder.
Your new expansion into use of graphic artist contracting to produce some humorous merchandise is a fine idea! I hope you continue to experiment and hit some big successes. I watch some videos by an a criminal defense attorney who has some "don't snitch on yourself" hats and merchandise. He did some fine summaries and analysis of the recent Depp defamation case.
I followed this case since it occurred..the case will always bother me..sad and disturbing. But now I have changed my mind "on who dunnit".
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I live in a neighboring county to where this happened. It was heartbreaking to see her mother's unimaginable grief. A beautiful life, taken for no reason. The testimony of Jason Autry convicted Zachary Adams. In it, he claimed Holly's brother was, "learning to make meth the morning she was taken..." which is why this man was at the home. He said she nagged her brother over this, and then she was killed...Smh. Are we to believe that Adams murdered Bobo, but refuse to believe the meth making part? Treat the testimony like a buffet, pick and choose what you want, and ignore the rest?
I agree and I’ve heard that too. Even if brother was involved in meth making what was the murderers motive ? Meth heads do a lot of things. But I can’t understand this one
I think the brother should have done more. Instead of just watching, he should have gone outside when he first saw someone with her.
That's toxic masculinity, which is something we're trying to stamp out.
Thank you for telling the truth about police techniques. Everybody should hear this and keep it in mind in case they somehow become connected with a crime.
Heartbreaking 💔 but nevertheless, another fascinating analysis Dr. Grande.
May I recommend an evaluation on "The Greatest" Muhammad Ali.
One of my heros that I looked up to growing up (still is) with a larger-than-life personality.
I feel he can be a fascinating subject with layers of complexities
Hi Dr. Grande. I hope your having a fabulous evening. This is the first time I've heard of this case. There was a similar case on Dr. Phil recently about a guy that went to prison for killing his family & now it's been said that he didn't do it so he's asking for release. Thanks for another spectacular analysis. Peace & awesome times hopefully await you, love to you & your family as well, peace, Janine Smiley🙂😀🤩😍😎☕👍👟👡👞👠👑👒💎💍💄📿🌺🌹🌷👗👔🦓🦊🐅🐆🐶🦊🐺
Have you considered that the police have the Wonder Woman magic lasso?
Well the original writers of Wonder Woman psychologists who's work helped lead to the polygraph.
The "Confession Bunnie" is my new husband!! Thank you, Dr. Grande! 💘🐰💘
Please see to it that your "new husband" gets a vasectomy.
The Confession Bunny merch sales pitch is the level of humor we are all after here! 🤣🤣🤣
First I had heard they were 'both on their knees facing each other on the garage floor'...wtf? Sounds like there was a struggle, or he went for her keys and threw them.
I was attacked by my ex-husband the day after a child support hearing. He was waiting outside the garage for me when I opened the door to go to work. I had no idea he was there. As I started the car he jumped in the passenger side door of my grand prix, grabbed my metal thermos and held my head down on the center counsel and just started hitting me in the left side of the head over and over. I thought I was going to die. I think after about 10 strikes he stopped because blood was splattered at that point even on the headliner. He made sure to dump whatever hot coffee was left in it on me before he got out. I ended up with a broken jaw, stitches, 2 black eyes, and needed brain decompression a few years later. He got a year in jail. Must be a hot spot for a$$holes to lie-in-wait - outside the garage. I sold the car, drove it straight to the dealership and traded it in within a few days because I couldn't stand to even look at the car, clean out the blood, or anything.
That is a nightmare. Yup, I would have traded it in on a tank... And then got some target practice.
@Andre Kerr I had a CCW in a State (Michigan) where they were extremely hard to get, plus a device to wear to press for the police to literally call them if he showed up, they considered him such a threat. Nothing can really prepare you for a blitz attack in the early morning. But the garage leaving the house...this was the first I ever heard of Holly Bobo on the floor with her killer. Brought me right back. Warning to anyone with disgruntled exes. Also with crime what it is - when you leave your house these days, in some places especially, you step into the food chain.
So sorry that happened to you.
How did your ex get such a lenient jail sentence? What State? If you don't mind?
In my State, Florida, he would've probably gotten at least 10 years in prison, and had to serve a minimum of 85%, so at least 8 1/2 years with good behavior.
@Andre Kerr Michigan - He hired a former prosecutor that got the judge to throw out the assault charge; what he was actually jailed for was *taking away my cell phone and throwing it in the toilet* so I couldn't call 911, a federal crime punishable by 1 year. His lawyer was friends with Judge. Rich pos. It's been 15 years and karma has been slowly but surely paying him back in spades. I live far, far away in Florida now.
@@RadChick Good for you. I know what that is all too well. Law enforcement and justice can have a side as dark as organized crime. I was incarcerated for a crime I did not do. The main force behind it was my ex's uncle. At one time he was the top prosecutor, his court proceedings against organized crime were famously broadcast on TV. From the second the cuffs went on it was a very bad trip. They actually put me in a prison wing with a gang of Hells Angels and spread the word I was one of a certain Italian leader's main guy. It's not always just bad paperwork. The prosecutor had a strong record, he used family members, including my ex to illegally obtain information. They worked in the revenue service and banks. So, he was able to provide his police friends with loads of confidential and illegal information, made him very popular snd poweful.
Florida is certainly the place to escape 'organized justice' or any form of organization. Are you secure now? He must have been angry even though he only served a fraction of what he should have.
I remember you talking about the car... It must have been a close call.
Take care.
Just a suggestion… but if the confession bunny had a wall clock indicating lunchtime and a pastrami sandwich decked out with everything…. Only takes a confession and it’s yours! That is an often retold confession room strategy because it is effective.
Important to note that the non-profit group Without Warning investigated this case after being asked by the Bobo family due to the TBI not having any suspects or evidence. Without Warning learned that TBI agents were obsessed with one suspect to the point of ignoring other potential suspects and not even investigating the alibis of these potential suspects (Austin/Adams/Autry).
TBI began harassing Without Warning and even demanded all of their files and evidence despite being offered all of it previously by the non profit group.
At the top of their suspect list was Adams/Austin/Autry.
Hi, to whom is your last sentence referring, @PaulDoe79 ? Thank you. Edit: to clarify, did you mean those three men (Adams, Austin and Autry) were TBI's suspects or were they the suspects of the Without Warning organization?
@americatruecrime hey wasn't directed at anyone in specific, just people interested in this case.
Without Warning had Autry/Adams/Austin at the top of their list of suspects. They were the ones who learned that TBI hadn't bothered to investigate their alibis properly because they were hyper focused on Terry Britt.
I believe Without Warning launched a lawsuit against TBI for their treatment. They weren't being paid and were asked by the Bobo family for assistance because nothing was getting done. And they were always offering their evidence to TBI so when they were suddenly the target of search warrants and had their computers and files confiscated they were confused.
I'll try to find the video link of the news interview done with the Without Warning group.
@@PaulDoe79 I didn't think you were directing anything towards anyone, I was just asking about who had the suspects on their suspect list first. Thank you for the reply. Such video would be good to locate and view. Who was supposed to be paying Without Warning such that they were not being paid? The BoBo family asked them to look into the case? Thank you again.
You see the news about autry recanting? What do you think about that?
@timweb1510 I think Autry is a pathological liar who will say anything to help himself.
Let's say he lied in court... this shows he was willing to put his own friend, an innocent man, in prison.
But forget Autry. Austin, before killing himself, was also working with law enforcement in exchange for immunity. He told them the same thing Autry said in his testimony. Austin was supposed to lead law enforcement to Holly's remains and when he didn't (or couldn't due to Adams moving the remains) the immunity agreement was null and void.
"The states new probation to confession program." Dr Grande you are hilarious!
Yeah. Good analysis
Love your vids man!
Confession Bunny, persuasion personified!
Thank you for your honest assessment laced with humour! ❤It's so sad that police can't be trusted! Growing up, I was a bit scared of cops because of one encounter, but then later a cop picked me up at the side of the road when I'd wiped out on my bike and skinned my knee. He was super nice and let me ride in the front with him, and took me home. When I was older, cops came after a family member committed a violent assault against their partner, found me traumatized, and took me to a friend's house to be safe and recover. It wasn't until I watched police mercilessly beat a group of peaceful protestors near my home that I truly realized how careful you have to be. I miss my former idealism.