+Cornwall1888 one of, if not the best to ever do it. there are a handful that have that speed and power, but they dont have near the technique that tiger had. when you look at the long drive world champs, they swing like wild baseball players and dont look like they could break 80.
JustinBlazzzzee the guys who actually win the World Long Drive can definitely break 80. They're obviously going for absolute maximum distance using 50 inch shafts and as little as 4 or 5 degrees of loft. They still have to hit it pretty well straight to hit the grid as long as they hit it.
Jamie Sadlowski is probably the only tour golfer that hits much harder than anyone else. His normal swing speed is 135 mph and he can crank it up to 140 mph
The craziest thing.. was he was swinging true temper shafts on his driver! I’ve hit s300 shafts on my irons since I first started playing. The weight compared to graphite shafts even in those days is insane. Can you imagine a 24 year old Tiger hitting the quality graphite shafts we have in 2020?? The club head speed would be absolutely insane.
but would have hit less fairways. You are right-he was a beast of all beasts. I think Phil hit irons longer than Tiger in early 2000s. Phil used to hit 195 yards with 7 iron which was insanity back in the days with traditional lofts.
@@tonythaiger93 I’m sure, like most guys, Phil bent his irons down, so he was hitting more like a 6 iron. Tiger always played (and still does now, on the rare occasion when he actually does play) standard lofts and even slightly higher than standard lofts in his irons. He still plays blades too. Plenty of Tour Pros have actually switched to cavity backs or some type of in between iron like a muscle back.
@@Whoopdido777 You Tigod simps are insufferable. No pro is playing jacked-up lofts, let alone Phil Mickelson, one of the world's best. There's a difference between a cavity-back like a T100 and some massive super game improvement club which nobody on tour plays.
@@tonythaiger93not with these driver head/shaft combinations available today. He was hitting nearly 7 of 10 fairways from 97-00. It definitely wouldn’t have went down. I understand why he left Harmon, but Butch Harmon had that swing tailored to him and Woods absolutely mastered it. These new drivers still fly straight as long as you get the head square.. I’ve had too many of them on the simulator to know if they’re more accurate for my 4 handicap that Tiger is squaring the head on plane more often than. If I’m hitting more fairways he would no doubt
If you think driving a par four on your first playoff hole for the british open isn't "at that level", you're really not a golfing fan. "GOAT by a long shot....." Uhuh. Yeah. Whatever you say.
GrandmasterN I'm honestly interested in where you got a source that says smash factors haven't changed since '98. I honestly didn't do any research on it, but my gut tells me it has to be higher now than it was in 1998. Also, how accurate were launch monitors back in '98 to begin with; after all, that is how smash factor gets calculated.
The scariest part for me is the fact that young Tiger could produce 130 mph clubhead speed while weighing like 140 lbs. He was a real skinny kid back in the day and he was producing clubhead speeds to guys who were more muscular.
Man that sudden hip rotation on his downswing is incredible. Now seeing how his back is these days, it's no wonder with a move like that, especially when keeping the left foot down like that.
These golfers today wouldn’t want to deal with young 90s early 2000s tiger. He was stronger and more aggressive. And was out foe blood each tournament. These days tiger is more friendly and golfer friendly with other players.
That sound at impact is something else. No wonder his left knee couldn't hold up with all the force on it. If I swung that fast my body would fly apart.
no words can describe how good he was, especially from 1997 to 2006 if youre 30 yrs old and up you know what Im talking about. I mean no disrespect to the younger generation when I say that.
They'll never understand what it was like.....he was like a superhero he could do things nobody else could do and he was truly unbeatable most of the time
Jamie Sadlowski consistently generates 135 mph swing speed and can crank it up to 140 mph on course. A week ago, trackman in the Australian PGA championship recorded ball speed of 203 mph
I don't care if there is more talent these days,they are not more talented.And if you put this tiger in with all the guys now the same domination would be happening.Even Jack said tiger plays a game of which I'm not familiar. Tiger is the real GOAT.
He changed his swing because his left knee was going thru so much torque. Butch told him to keep the swing and make minor changes and that is one reason he left and joined Hank Haney. When you hear Tiger talks about his swing now, it is right leg that gets a lot of the work.
Tiger"s contribution(s) to the golf world continues to remain in a category of enormous proportions...2019 is coming to a end and i look forward to 2020
Because he was older not because the clubs weren't better. If 1997 tiger woods was using 2023 clubs he'd be driving it 30 yards past Rory and DJ everytime
This footage is valuable in the way it is put together. Tiger's driver grip alignment seems to be the furthest from his body in his golf career. The length of the club shaft at that time and the characteristics of the head probably made it so.
I guess I don’t know when they stopped playing at Firestone, but I don’t think it was too long ago. Anyway hardly anybody hit that green in 2 and he pretty much flew it onto the back fringe with an iron. That’s power there.
Should have kept the 2000 swing. Pretty much a dialed back, more controlled version of his amateur/early pro swing. Obviously he had his best results with that 2000 swing (7 of 11 majors).
And if you look at the clubs he was using (17 years ago! has it really been that long??), they look like something from an old giveaway bag at a garage sale. imagine if he had the kind of clubs with the technology they have today. he would be hitting it with DJ any day. He's 40 and broken, and can still hit it 300.
It is SUCH a shame to see the what, 12 surgeries he has had in his career? Let's face it- he was simply over redline on the physical mechanism, it wasn't designed to have that much force applied to joints, muscles, and even bones, with the repetition that his career used the chassis for...
2012 stack and tilt swing was actually a more powerful swing but Tiger was so athletic in 2000 that he could stand up a bit more upright and still generate insane power. I think he fucked up his back trying to go to a less natural but more powerful swing to get closer to his 2000 distances.
Looks like to me that all those drives were with a Titleist 975 series driver that’s when he was really driving the ball well He also featured a true temper dynamic Gold Chef not sure of the flex but possibly an X 100
How would you know? I'm the one who has spoken to Butch in person. Sorry, but your second statement makes no sense when all the meat is in your mouth. You've done a supreme job of making a fool of yourself. Top tip: keep your trap shut, it will serve you better in life. Butch is hands down one of the nicest people I have ever met.
Paulo P You should follow your own "advice" there bud, and keep your mouth shut, because last time I checked you are a nobody who wants to rant about stupid shit like this on youtube. Shut the Fuck up and watch the video.
Qc Kidd yes, I am a nobody who talks about shit but at least I can admit to it. Well done for getting that right. However this is about you not me because you committed first about the matter. Do you want to talk about stupid shit; I think you like my shit?
Yikes, that swing is so awesome! ua-cam.com/video/jrp1lrLkfa4/v-deo.html To bad the left leg issues occurred. He's been a mess ever since trying to find something to take pressure off that left leg to only ruin his back.
TheRattler33 jack averaged 270 off the tee in 1980 welllll past his prime. Also your not mentioning that avg distance isnt measured by clubs. If you hit a 2 iron off the tee 220 down the fairway then that factors in. If you don't think jack could avg 300 with that driver back in the late 60's then you don't know Jack! Pun intended.
How do you know that?? The primes of arnold and jack were way before any timing equipment. Hell, they started when TV was at its infancy. Nobody ever heard of smash factor then as well. Stop trying to prop up your guy against the greatest with regard to swing speed, tech, etc. In the end, its the results that count. And, fyi, Jack FLEW a 330 yard hole with a persimmon wood.
Have you ever watched the swing of a young Jack Niclaus? It was the swing of a long driver. He monstered it. John Daly hit it longer than tiger and he used to drink beer instead of go to the gym. Just because someone is younger, newer and has improved training methods doesn't mean its always superior. Niclaus and Daly are two of the longest hitters in the history of the tour. Tiger is a great golfer who hits it very far, but even then there are long drive hitters who can fly the ball 50 yards farther than him..... doesn't mean they are better golfers.
Tiger Wood is the living legend in the History of Golf. He is the most popular and successful golfer of the world. Get more at thesportsbiography.com/tiger-wood
long term steroid use does come with delayed negative effects to the mind and body. although his injuries are legitimate, when the delayed onset of negative effects from long-term steroid use do finally begin, obvious declines in mental and physical body health appear. it can actually cause physical injuries itself and or 100% effect your bodies normal way of recovering and regenerating from injuries. you can clearly notice in his career the huge amount of muscle mass he's accumulated and when he was at his biggest, the injuries started, and the obvious decline started, obvious mental lapses in his choices while married, mental changes in golf, I mean how many swing coaches does one need and how many new swing styles you need, or is it from mental instability? also all these injuries and just various other aches and pains and annoyances he feels just go on and on and on, years of nagging him. don't think it can't be possible, he felt it was ok to cheat in marriage why wouldn't he think an edge in golf wouldn't be ok. the constant pressure on himself and everyone else of breaking Jacks major record is also motive for him to have a by any means possible belief in his head. I hope it's not the case but over and over the big picture keeps lining up that way.
Garrett Schupp there is zero proof of him taking steroids. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but again, there is zero proof. Nothing is "lining up that way". Yes, his body is wrecked. From what? it could be an number of things.
1:56 Quite possibly the best swing ever captured on film. Absolutely dead nuts solid 🔥
Young Tiger was something to behold.
greatest swing i’ve ever seen. the way he fires his hips is like a whip. absolutely stunning. trying to imitate this swing is why my back hurts
There will never, ever, be a better swing than what is captured in this video. Truly incredible.
Never say never
Never seen anyone go at the ball that hard before or since, incredible speed and power.
+Cornwall1888 one of, if not the best to ever do it. there are a handful that have that speed and power, but they dont have near the technique that tiger had. when you look at the long drive world champs, they swing like wild baseball players and dont look like they could break 80.
+JustinBlazzzee
what do you expect? it's a long drive contest, its not about finesse.
I agree. Incredible
JustinBlazzzzee the guys who actually win the World Long Drive can definitely break 80. They're obviously going for absolute maximum distance using 50 inch shafts and as little as 4 or 5 degrees of loft. They still have to hit it pretty well straight to hit the grid as long as they hit it.
Jamie Sadlowski is probably the only tour golfer that hits much harder than anyone else. His normal swing speed is 135 mph and he can crank it up to 140 mph
The craziest thing.. was he was swinging true temper shafts on his driver! I’ve hit s300 shafts on my irons since I first started playing. The weight compared to graphite shafts even in those days is insane. Can you imagine a 24 year old Tiger hitting the quality graphite shafts we have in 2020?? The club head speed would be absolutely insane.
but would have hit less fairways. You are right-he was a beast of all beasts. I think Phil hit irons longer than Tiger in early 2000s. Phil used to hit 195 yards with 7 iron which was insanity back in the days with traditional lofts.
@@tonythaiger93 I’m sure, like most guys, Phil bent his irons down, so he was hitting more like a 6 iron. Tiger always played (and still does now, on the rare occasion when he actually does play) standard lofts and even slightly higher than standard lofts in his irons. He still plays blades too. Plenty of Tour Pros have actually switched to cavity backs or some type of in between iron like a muscle back.
He used X100 shafts and even had them bored through. Orr custom golf in Orange used to do it for him. It’s wild how hard he swung
@@Whoopdido777 You Tigod simps are insufferable. No pro is playing jacked-up lofts, let alone Phil Mickelson, one of the world's best. There's a difference between a cavity-back like a T100 and some massive super game improvement club which nobody on tour plays.
@@tonythaiger93not with these driver head/shaft combinations available today. He was hitting nearly 7 of 10 fairways from 97-00. It definitely wouldn’t have went down. I understand why he left Harmon, but Butch Harmon had that swing tailored to him and Woods absolutely mastered it. These new drivers still fly straight as long as you get the head square.. I’ve had too many of them on the simulator to know if they’re more accurate for my 4 handicap that Tiger is squaring the head on plane more often than. If I’m hitting more fairways he would no doubt
1:55 might be the best swing a human being has ever produced
I think your 100% right
Agreed and even think the next one was identical for everything but the camera angle. Arguably the best tournament anyone has put together
Mike Austin
Good point, it is almost identical.
0:16 did u not see this one?
0:15 That is just insane.
I can't comprehend where the power comes from, he accelerates so fast right at the end.
I thought the ball was gonna explode
Jack has more majors but no one played golf at such a high level than Tiger did.
stackleft hfd
How do you think Jack got those 18 majors?
By playing at such a low level??
Moron.
I would consider it harder to be at that level today then it was then. I think tiger is the GOAT by a long shot.
If you think driving a par four on your first playoff hole for the british open isn't "at that level",
you're really not a golfing fan. "GOAT by a long shot....." Uhuh. Yeah. Whatever you say.
or you could give a legitimate argument instead of a condescending one. i must not be a golfing fan, lol
I believe that if you gave a 21 year old Tiger today's equipment, he would be longer than Bubba
I read somewhere if he was given modern equipment in college, he would average about 30 yards further than him
probably so. Those older clubs didn't have very good power transfer ratios plus higher driver spin.
unmatched power and finesse
if someone like him will come along again someday youll know it immediately
GrandmasterN I'm honestly interested in where you got a source that says smash factors haven't changed since '98. I honestly didn't do any research on it, but my gut tells me it has to be higher now than it was in 1998. Also, how accurate were launch monitors back in '98 to begin with; after all, that is how smash factor gets calculated.
Pffft prime Tiger couldnt even out drive John Daly lol
honestly, there will never be another tiger ever. just appreciate you are living in his time. carry the f on.
Tiger's swing in the 90's looked great, very loose and free. His 2000's swing is a technical marvel and a thing of beauty, but it was tension filled.
He'd be long drive champion with todays clubs.
1:04 is the best golf swing in history
The swing at 1:02 is absolute lunacy. Wow.
i would have been in the hospital if i tried 0:16
@1:30 I remember this. It was about a 300 yard 2 iron at the 16th in firestone. With a titleist professional ball and steel shafts. Incredible.
Greatest swing and putting stroke ever it’s not even close
The scariest part for me is the fact that young Tiger could produce 130 mph clubhead speed while weighing like 140 lbs. He was a real skinny kid back in the day and he was producing clubhead speeds to guys who were more muscular.
He was skinny in the 90s but he wasn't 140lbs he's like 6ft 1. Had to be at least 165lbs
1:00 that swing is absolutely deadly my God.
:40 that ball flight straight up stupid
Unreal.
Dude has an s300 in his driver.
that iron swing at 0:04 is just insanely powerful he must have been swinging near 130 mph back then.
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Back when 130 cruising speed got you 300. Now 112 does the same. Ball and Drivers have changed alot!
dude its weird though because I have 108-112 clubhead speed but only carry it 250. I just can't hit it as centered as the pros.
Man that sudden hip rotation on his downswing is incredible. Now seeing how his back is these days, it's no wonder with a move like that, especially when keeping the left foot down like that.
His swing under Butch Harmon was definitely the best. If not for the wreck job Haney did, he might have reached Nicklaus' record for major wins.
He certainly would have avoided many injuries if he stayed with Butch
He seemed more fearless then
I wish Tiger would have stayed skinny forever. He has the bulk now, but it's not really needed. His leverage and speed made up for it.
great compilation...thanks...btw, he was 138 mpg in the early '90s and still around 128 mpg in 2000
0:16 Not even Human dude wtf that’s outrageous
I got a sore back just watching this.
I think his swing speed was 130+ at: 0:15
Max Caysey lag
These golfers today wouldn’t want to deal with young 90s early 2000s tiger. He was stronger and more aggressive. And was out foe blood each tournament. These days tiger is more friendly and golfer friendly with other players.
His 00 swing looked so nice
2000 Tiger with 2023 clubs would outta sight!!!
That sound at impact is something else. No wonder his left knee couldn't hold up with all the force on it. If I swung that fast my body would fly apart.
no words can describe how good he was, especially from 1997 to 2006 if youre
30 yrs old and up you know what Im talking about. I mean no disrespect to the younger generation when I say that.
They'll never understand what it was like.....he was like a superhero he could do things nobody else could do and he was truly unbeatable most of the time
BUBBA/DJ/RORY/DAY ---can suck it.... none have generated 130mph consistently like this man could....Today he matches them...
Jamie Sadlowski consistently generates 135 mph swing speed and can crank it up to 140 mph on course. A week ago, trackman in the Australian PGA championship recorded ball speed of 203 mph
CAN"T PUTT
Armando Guerra His putting is not good, but his chipping is worse
That's why his back is fucked up
Jamie will join him in the near future too,
1:04 someone check the commentators pants
Even with Rory now, the world has yet 2 see anyone come close to tiger in his prime!!
I don't care if there is more talent these days,they are not more talented.And if you put this tiger in with all the guys now the same domination would be happening.Even Jack said tiger plays a game of which I'm not familiar.
Tiger is the real GOAT.
He changed his swing because his left knee was going thru so much torque. Butch told him to keep the swing and make minor changes and that is one reason he left and joined Hank Haney. When you hear Tiger talks about his swing now, it is right leg that gets a lot of the work.
best swing ever
Tiger is, was, and will be the man.
my back hurts from watching that 😂
0:16
If you listen carefully those drives and woods are really roaring just like a tiger .. amazing!
The young Tiger swing was without any aches & pains. Fluid
No wonder his back is toast
Tiger"s contribution(s) to the golf world continues to remain in a category of enormous proportions...2019 is coming to a end and i look forward to 2020
2020 is going pretty well I don't think
Seems like in the old days he got his speed from his arm swing
Legs
from 2005 onward maybe. but from the late 90s to the very early 2000s he was all hips
Hips. He was skinny and whippy in the upper body which helped but the power came from the hips and legs
Its amazing how hard he use to go at it. Tons of clubhead speed after impact.
A young Tiger compares to Cameron Champ in terms of speed, and easily blows away the likes of DJ, Bubba, Rory, Koepka, etc...
his swing is so smooth and fast i think it made some of the announcers gay
I honestly think he was much better when we had steel shafted woods. Say what you want but he never swung the graphite shafted driver as well
Because he was older not because the clubs weren't better. If 1997 tiger woods was using 2023 clubs he'd be driving it 30 yards past Rory and DJ everytime
TIGERRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!
perfect swing ever...
Rory wasn't in the video.
Or, for that matter, Justin Thomas.
+jpracingph you clearly no nothing about the golf swing
Tiger 2000 was literally the perfect golf swing
This footage is valuable in the way it is put together. Tiger's driver grip alignment seems to be the furthest from his body in his golf career. The length of the club shaft at that time and the characteristics of the head probably made it so.
For what its worth , HISTORY HAS BEEN MADE 🌎🎯🐅🏌♂️🐅
Never seen anyone hit a golf ball so hard. Dear me!
I guess I don’t know when they stopped playing at Firestone, but I don’t think it was too long ago.
Anyway hardly anybody hit that green in 2 and he pretty much flew it onto the back fringe with an iron. That’s power there.
Should have kept the 2000 swing. Pretty much a dialed back, more controlled version of his amateur/early pro swing. Obviously he had his best results with that 2000 swing (7 of 11 majors).
And if you look at the clubs he was using (17 years ago! has it really been that long??), they look like something from an old giveaway bag at a garage sale. imagine if he had the kind of clubs with the technology they have today. he would be hitting it with DJ any day. He's 40 and broken, and can still hit it 300.
1:04 just compared frames with a Bryson 200 mile hour ball speed swing. From lead arm parallel to parallel. Both 5 frames 👍🏻
The Harmon swing was the best.
It is SUCH a shame to see the what, 12 surgeries he has had in his career? Let's face it- he was simply over redline on the physical mechanism, it wasn't designed to have that much force applied to joints, muscles, and even bones, with the repetition that his career used the chassis for...
he also was obsessed with Navy SEAL training. haney wrote that TW destroyed his body with his intense conditioning training
Got him 14 majors. It's worth it.
TheArfdog fair
and would you take a bad back for $1B in earnings? I would lol.
2012 stack and tilt swing was actually a more powerful swing but Tiger was so athletic in 2000 that he could stand up a bit more upright and still generate insane power. I think he fucked up his back trying to go to a less natural but more powerful swing to get closer to his 2000 distances.
Fantastic swings.
The torque on his knee in the downswing is what killed him in the long run
this swing is just scary
Looks like to me that all those drives were with a Titleist 975 series driver that’s when he was really driving the ball well He also featured a true temper dynamic Gold Chef not sure of the flex but possibly an X 100
That sound from his driver connecting.
He has made so much money achieved so much in golf but his back and knees are all worn out @40!
Why did he put on the muscle he clearly didn’t need it.
Think to give him more control from the rough....need to be strong to gouge it out of US open rough
@@Unvaccinated69 he had more speed before bulking up. Muscle doesn’t help u get through the rough
@A B yes it does stronger you are less likely the grass will turn the clubface over
Who else saw that ball flight at :43 and got a half chub?
This is why he's got back problems now. It's an amazing swing, but that'll take a toll on you
He won the Masters homie, look at him now.
Tiger was a fool for leaving Harmon.
so true, not too mention Sean foley was a snake oiled charlatan guru
How would you know? I'm the one who has spoken to Butch in person. Sorry, but your second statement makes no sense when all the meat is in your mouth. You've done a supreme job of making a fool of yourself. Top tip: keep your trap shut, it will serve you better in life.
Butch is hands down one of the nicest people I have ever met.
If you're good at anything making people angry one thing.
Paulo P You should follow your own "advice" there bud, and keep your mouth shut, because last time I checked you are a nobody who wants to rant about stupid shit like this on youtube. Shut the Fuck up and watch the video.
Qc Kidd yes, I am a nobody who talks about shit but at least I can admit to it. Well done for getting that right. However this is about you not me because you committed first about the matter. Do you want to talk about stupid shit; I think you like my shit?
So yeah, this is porn.
GOAT
I feel sorry for those golf balls
lifting weights destroyed his quickness. He could have won 30 majors had he just got out of his own way.
sex addiction ruined him
130+ is a stretch. Sooo fast and probably upper 120s but highly doubt it was more than 130
such finessed violence !!!
UNDID THE GIRDLE!
0:58
Glad I'm not the ball.
If he had hit a club or two less he may not of damaged his body so much and alot more majors.
OMG swing so.
as a youngster he can outdrive kids in his age group
Yikes, that swing is so awesome! ua-cam.com/video/jrp1lrLkfa4/v-deo.html
To bad the left leg issues occurred. He's been a mess ever since trying to find something to take pressure off that left leg to only ruin his back.
1:03
😲
I swing that fast but why is my ball going only 200
this video makes me sad
MAn that speed no wonder he messed his back up.
a few nutters their.
tondemoneeeee!!!
@0:40
とんでもねー！！
Nicklaus would hit hit further!
Actually, he's right. Jack hit 300+ yard drives in his prime with a steel shafted persimmon driver and a balata ball...Palmer too...
TheRattler33 jack averaged 270 off the tee in 1980 welllll past his prime. Also your not mentioning that avg distance isnt measured by clubs. If you hit a 2 iron off the tee 220 down the fairway then that factors in. If you don't think jack could avg 300 with that driver back in the late 60's then you don't know Jack! Pun intended.
Yup. Young Jack and John Daley longer.
How do you know that??
The primes of arnold and jack were way before any timing equipment.
Hell, they started when TV was at its infancy.
Nobody ever heard of smash factor then as well.
Stop trying to prop up your guy against the greatest with regard to swing speed, tech, etc.
In the end, its the results that count.
And, fyi, Jack FLEW a 330 yard hole with a persimmon wood.
Have you ever watched the swing of a young Jack Niclaus? It was the swing of a long driver. He monstered it. John Daly hit it longer than tiger and he used to drink beer instead of go to the gym. Just because someone is younger, newer and has improved training methods doesn't mean its always superior. Niclaus and Daly are two of the longest hitters in the history of the tour. Tiger is a great golfer who hits it very far, but even then there are long drive hitters who can fly the ball 50 yards farther than him..... doesn't mean they are better golfers.
Tiger Wood is the living legend in the History of Golf. He is the most popular and successful golfer of the world. Get more at thesportsbiography.com/tiger-wood
Ok Borat. High Five!
Seed House Media Pvt Ltd Used to be the most popular till his private bordello was exposed.
who cares about club head speed? is about ball speed and low spin
Only John Daly out drove Tiger in his prime and that was by under five yards
Don't do steroids kids.
Best comment about Woods.
long term steroid use does come with delayed negative effects to the mind and body. although his injuries are legitimate, when the delayed onset of negative effects from long-term steroid use do finally begin, obvious declines in mental and physical body health appear. it can actually cause physical injuries itself and or 100% effect your bodies normal way of recovering and regenerating from injuries. you can clearly notice in his career the huge amount of muscle mass he's accumulated and when he was at his biggest, the injuries started, and the obvious decline started, obvious mental lapses in his choices while married, mental changes in golf, I mean how many swing coaches does one need and how many new swing styles you need, or is it from mental instability? also all these injuries and just various other aches and pains and annoyances he feels just go on and on and on, years of nagging him. don't think it can't be possible, he felt it was ok to cheat in marriage why wouldn't he think an edge in golf wouldn't be ok. the constant pressure on himself and everyone else of breaking Jacks major record is also motive for him to have a by any means possible belief in his head. I hope it's not the case but over and over the big picture keeps lining up that way.
Garrett Schupp
there is zero proof of him taking steroids. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but again, there is zero proof. Nothing is "lining up that way". Yes, his body is wrecked. From what? it could be an number of things.
Dumb shit
He wasn't on roids