Live Sound Check: Midas M32
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- Опубліковано 5 бер 2015
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In this video we show a real life example of a Live Sound Check with the Midas M32. Great board for the price range and the sound quality is awesome. The band I am doing sound for is called Taxi Driver and they are from Omaha, NE ( www.taxidriverlive.com/ ) Thanks to Taxi Driver and the Ozone Lounge Omaha for letting us make this video!
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Why is noone talking about how the musicians are always doing what they're asked to that's like super rare! They're PERFECT
that visual display of real time frequencies is an excellent tool
the sound technician is the MVP of every live performance. we need to get paid more!!! :)
and studio recordings ofc..
I don't know about you, but I get paid pretty well. More than enough to give my 110% for the show.
Wow that drummer just won't stop playing !
he wanted practice one more timexD
So fine to work with people who knows to show respect to the sound engineer who is trying to do his work.
the noisy lot of any band😂😂😂
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Yeah man... right
Я на каждом саундчеке ору на барабанщиков. Когда мне надо поговорить с музыкантами, все глушат инструменты, и только ебучий ударник продолжает долбить по барабанам. Хоть стреляй в него, чтоб заткнулся.
Engineer has good ears at picking frequencies.
@Derek Frampton PaPa-D It also helps that he has an RTA function
except all the vocals sound absolutely dreadful
@@entidadewolf Possibly, the name "Midas" is misleading. It's important to cut low frequencies, possibly to boost treble (and digital equalizers are pretty willing, before these came, the only way was to use a SPL vitalizer).
I work with the X32 and the musician has a backing with some echos from his own voice and I noticed, that my sound was boomy and hasn't much brilliance - it's amazing, how close you can bring a SM58 to the sound of a condenser mike.
Sometimes it should also help, when the singer doesn't sing so close...
Only trained for that only.
That’s kinda the point
Very Cool ! I remember seeing Taxi Driver back in like 2005 ! Glad to see they are still around !
I've mixed in that room on that board. Using Audio Media Productions presets. The thing to take into account about that venue is that it's a restaurant setting and there are people still eating during that sound check. Most times we don't get to make any noise until 30 minutes prior to show time. So, yes, it was a quick spin through, but very thorough in my opinion. Of course, many adjustments are made throughout the night once they get rolling. Good job man! Hope all is well!
Thank you so much for this exemple of Sound Check
Dude, currently going to work at a place with an m32 and haven't used it. This is giving me such peace of mind hahaha thanks. Good mix!
thank you for doing this. I like seeing the process and how the monitors are set up. good stuff.
Lol XD Same
But I’ll never know how to operate one. Maybe a analog mixer not digital it gets so complicated
Nice console. Nice job EQ'ing.. Thanks for sharing.
Engineer's got very good frequency tuning. Well done mate.
This think is pretty incredible. Great demo.
We had recently bought this mix, and I had a little course about the same. Before that course I had caught nothing. When I passed some lessons and after seen this video, your quick hands were not so confusing me. Great mix, and this video too.
Thanks for the walkthrough! Been holding on to my analog desk but am getting close to making the switch and have gotten a ton of valuable info from these type of walkthrough videos. I do have to say that I still get a kick out of how every single local or regional band reacts the same way to soundcheck, ask for kick drum and the entire band starts riffing and babbling into the mics.....
Great ears Sir and patience with busy musicians, I have x32 and compact love them for the price.
Lubię oglądać takie przygotowania 🙂
Super fast & professional. Hands Down!
+German Villen thanks man! I appreciate the kind words!
almost made that sound like a good band. a miracle!
Zero-G I was thinking the same thing.
Sick mix bro!
thanks for this video.. I'm learn many knowledge! thanks again
Bubs2005 it is a sub monitor mix for soundcheck then when the band is playing it is straight left and right mix to usb
As for the drummer, I have them play some thing in time with kick, snare, and HH. They play longer and they usually get into a groove. But, that's just me. Nice sound check
daaaaaaammmmmmm sounds so good!!! will be you be my band's sound guy!?!?!? I have an X32 rack with an S16 (just in case) and you don't have to worry about our monitor mix :-)
I want it sooooo much!!!
Bought a lot of gear right before pandemic and its standing and collecting dust...
thx for this great video. :)
Engineer did a nice job.
brooo that was soo fucking cool that the knobs slide around
i love this amazing stuff
Beautiful
Nice one. Keep it up dol. 🔥🔥🙌🙌
Q: Did you run your first fader group for IEM and your second fader group for the house PA (same inputs)?
Great! What's the audio format of your videos?
12:30 ... but what's up with your boy just wandering up in the stage though? 🤣
He grabbed the tambourine.
and facing backwards no less!
Might be looking for the exit
Man, that's some good music! Awesome video. Thanks for showing your good work. My church rented a system for one week on vacations. It was my first time with a X32. I know it's Behringer - hate Behringer, had too much problems for a lifetime, but I could have a little taste of M32
M32 is a nice mix, and full automation digital mixers are the name of the game. I read nearly 80 reviews on the latest Behringer X32 and other than preferences for a few minor items which - when they got comfortable with it - they realized it was better than they first realized. One reviewer said he thought the X32 was cleaner and more transparent than Presonus and a better value than some mixers selling in the high teens. I've been pleased with Behringer's bang for the buck! Midas M32 , DiGiCol SD, Avid & Behringer X32 are all excellent products that get the job done. The X32 utilizes Midas' gain programmable pre-amps (some help from Klark Teknik's).
Got my feet wet on a 'tube' board built by J. Harned who became MCI. I think the Bee-Gee's did a lot of work on one of those; and then I got the privilege to custom design a Sphere console for Doppler and worked on another Sphere at GroundStar with Ronnie. So, being brought up on large analog studio mixers, I'm jealous of the ability of these guys (& gals) and their magic mixers; but when it's said and done, it still takes an audio geek that loves music, has good ears, attention to detail and coolness behind the faders. "So pay no mind to the mixer behind the curtain and just enjoy the show - folks."
Did you ever find where the Hum was coming from ?
Some kind of phase or coning on the mics !!! Do you hear it?
Good job dear and thanks for making this video for showing Midas 32 but how you didn’t get that there is distortion in the piano channel please I am waiting for your reply back because I am working with Midas 32 and I don’t want to miss any information to keep the good job thanks
Great mixing! But i think it’s time to change tom heads 😅. What do you guys think?
Ilove ur hand work
thanks for the reply..
Audio Media Production Service I will love to come do my training with you please reply me
Amazing how your eq presets are very similar to mine, but coming from the same school of thought, when it comes to mixing, it's not surprising. This confirms that I've been doing it right for the past 6 years!
+Jeremy Noel yes its good to search and destroy! and if you absolutely have to then boost but as a last resort.
Thanks for this ...! Would you say that the Midas stuff is a warmer sound than the X32 preamps? I think right now I'm sold on the X32 Compact as an entry point, then add Midas stage boxes and later the M32R. I'd bet this was a rockin' show.... Nice stuff, thanks again for all of the videos!
Isaiah Furrow yeah the midas boards have the pro preamps.
The human ear can't actually tell the difference between the two boards. Dave Rat's tests reveal all lol. There IS a difference, but it's not something we can hear. The differences are at levels too low or too high for us to notice. Especially during a show!!! The interface shootout done by GEARSLUTZ cleared it all up too. In a blind test the BEHRINGER interface was voted the best sounding even up against $12,000 dollar Appolo interfaces and the likes. It's 200 bucks!!! All the people that claim to "hear" the differences in todays gear voted BEHRINGER THE BEST!!! hahaha. I am NOT saying they are at all. I'm saying that they're all virtually the same! Don't waste money on names. Todays gear is ALL great stuff. I've had my x32 Compact for 3 years and done well over a hundred shows for professional acts and not one has ever complained it's a Behringer board. Either is capable in the right hands.
parabéns irmão, muito show a mesa, parece ser um ótimo console!
Hmmm looks like your #10 fader LCD didn't crap out on you in the first 2 weeks of owning it... Im really debating whether the just leave it alone or send it back because with my luck I would get a referb unit that had a failing pre amp and then it would crap out mid show.... I do have an m32r on standby if anything does happen though...
What's your overall opinion of this board after using it for a couple of years?
I have the exact same model.input 2 mics and 1 phone as playback for minus one. im sending main output to my mac for recording. I have 2 ps15 speakers to use as monitor. during recording, I prefer only to listen to playback and I dont want to put on headphone.could you show me how can i have the option of 1)playback only 2)vocals only 3)playback and vocal using the speakers. thanks
Awesome video, thanks for posting.
Could you explain how you have your inputs routed to your fader banks and why?
***** if your talking about my inputs being routed as a mirror image on faders 17-32 is because most bands i do sound for dont take up more than 16 inputs so i mirror image them on 17-32 to split the board into 2 consoles one for monitors and one for FOH then i set my bus sends as post eq, what this allows me to do is have channel eq's in the monitors seperate from my FOH allowing for better monitor mixes. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Audio Media Production Service how do you mirror image the inputs I want to try that next gig
It's incredible, how affordable technology is now
Que hermoso suena el Kick, Snare y HH
Nice video! I have a question: What are you doing with channels 1-16 and what are you doing with channels 17-32. It looks like they both have the same instruments going into each. Does it have to do with EQ'ing for the monitors being different than for FOH?
Since most mobile devices bring up the first 16 channels... it's best to set them up as "monitor" only... then live mix on 17 thru 32... the other advantage to that is separate EQ per channel.
how do we set the gain level for both?
ive played some major concerts, big outdoor concerts and arenas, if a band sound checked like these guys they would be thrown off the stage, you ask for snare drum and 5 people start singing and playing their instruments, you have more patience than I do. I'm curious why you didn't use channel 1-16?
i thought i was the only one who noticed..he said give me hi-hats..im hearing snare and kick guitar and im like wait what..i remember my first major concert and thats something you learn really quick dont mess around when the engineer is sound checking
Yup I learned this after my first major show opening for a major touring act huge production...when That sound man yells on the mic to stop screwing around you never forget it
Since most mobile devices bring up the first 16 channels... it's best to
set them up as "monitor" only (that way the band doesn't mess with the gains or EQ on the mains when mixing their own monitor)... then live mix on 17 thru 32... the other advantage to that is separate EQ per channel.
Yeah, that band doesn't have any discipline at all when soundchecking. "Hey, you say snare, I say drumset!" Makes it totally easy to pick out the right sound because of course every snare sounds the same and the engineer of course knows the frequencies for the EQ.
guitarz04 x
Thanks for the video. Where do i plug in my headphones on the M32?
Bottom right under the front of console
that EQ is sick..
Buzzing throughout most the mic check... seems like it’s from a DI box on piano ch 1?
does foh prefer vocals in stereo or mono ? and does singers own iem mix prefer vocals in stereo or mono ?
Engineers own this world
Thank you so much for sharing a wonderful experiance and knowledge.
My question!!!!
Once you set all the imputs together
Into the master father ouput, what is your personal clip point?????
0db or below 0db?????? In order to keep a rich headdrom whit out distortion.
Thank you ahead .
tuneroneff I try to have as much signal going out of the master out as possible with out red lighting or clipping.. proper gain structure is to have all the signal from the board and if it is too loud then back down the amps
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
I ll keep it in mind.
Unsure if I could get an answer here, but what kind of mic should I get to record audio at a concert from my smartphone and not get an audio mess, I'm ready to invest up to 300$ if I can get a bluetooth mic that's gonna do a good job, I use a Pixel 6a.
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Hi, nice tutorial videos. I have a few questions on your workflow. If I am not mistaken, you 1. use only gates and dynamics on your drums (why not on the other instruments?) 2. route some of the channels (kick, snare) to the M/C main bus (is this better for the centrally panned instruments rather than routing to the stereo main bus?) 3. set your master fader and individual channels to zero and adjust the input gain (do you have still another way to set the overall volume for the venue?). We bought a M32 few months ago. It's a great console! Thanks!
TME All-Stars I typically use gates just on drums, I do use compressors on other instruments also, especially the vocals. In this video you might be seeing me jump to the monitor side of the board. I split the board into two consoles that has the mirror imaged channels. On the monitor channels I typically do not use gates or dynamics but on the FOH side of the console I do. When you see me using the mono bus I am running subs on an aux. It is not set up as a mono master send. Just to the subwoofers, I wouldnt be sending the snare to it tho. and as far as the gain I will set my faders first into usable position like 0dB then bring my gain up, this is proper gain structure, you can follow it backwards. Dave Rat has a good video on this. If you need more volume for the venue adjust your amplifiers accordingly.
Great, thank you for the reply and keep on posting your tutorial videos! Much appreciated.
I think its a very strong magic!
could you please tell me what mics you used on congas and bongos? thank you.
Craig Rothery just a good old 57 on both...
What effect was he using on the kick?
hello, where i can get the virtual sound check?
How can i contact you to have set up on my mixer and to have a multi track recording.
Normal i check FOH/system calibrate to environment, (mon) and then line check first. Then band starts and first track is also soundcheck, get sound in 90 seconds. No time for this long soundcheck. Or ask do a normal rehearsal song/track.
so thats how you do it..We start hollaring back and forth to board guy, talking about ball games, swap guitar licks , cussin, then church starts
I noticed you had a rough EQ on every channel before you started the sound check; were those EQs you added manually before the check started, or are those part of the built-in EQs on the board?
Mike Kerlinger I have my own eq's that are my starting points for every instrument that I have saved into my library...of coarse if my starting point needs adjusting I adjust it... but it saves so much time before a gig, trying to set my hi pass filters eq's gates, ect so once i get the input list from the band i can load up my presets under a minute and have everything labeled and ready to go..
Thanks I hope this helps... CHEERS
I turned on my midas M32 and I cant get any input signal on any of the channels, it worked the last time I shut it off, any ideas? ive tried everything I can think of, maybe the mixer is kaput?
It can be a false Routing
Works in Ableton? thx!
Learning to mix here.. How do you recognise those frequencies to cut? I saw you boost search, then pull down.. what’s your criteria for pulling such down? Thanks
Fellow mixer here, just getting into the live world having spent most of my time in studio settings but the same ideas apply - the part of the process that isn’t as easy to see is that BEFORE he’s doing his boost to search, he’s already heard something he doesn’t like (annoying, distracting, overpowering etc). Knowing where in the frequency spectrum to look comes with experience, he’ll know after however many hundred mixes that to deal with a ringing overtone he’ll want to be searching anywhere above the fundamental frequency of the snare, but he’ll be trying to keep away from the part of the upper midrange/treble where the ‘snap’ or attack sound of the snare lives. The same idea applies to any instrument: hear something you don’t like, know where to look, ELIMINATE (or at least attend to). Hope this helps a little
What reverb do you have on the vocals? Nice video!
+4pomona I have a hall reverb but I customized it a bit for my liking.
is this recording coming from the camera?
The gate decay for toms is too short. Still, it´s a decent sound though
9:00 I laughed when he started singing the doors. By the way I love the doors.
I prefer the Windows (also musical act, was mend as Mouth & McNeil cover, did the more popular version of "How Do You Do")
what FOH speakers are they?
cuando tienes los toms invertidos en la entrada, puedes rutear la mesa. es mas rapido para mi
are they using IEM sir?
How would you compare the sound quality to an analog Midas like the Venice320?
Don't care venice is boss!!
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ok so i'm curious with respect to "more me" on the monitors. The musicians are asked early on without any audio (music) if they can hear themselves properly. They all answer yeah but what happens when the band begins to play? Just asking.
Jim smith they will probably signal if they need more
what effect did you used on vocal? and also for drums?
HighHeeledJack Same question. Any compressors?
@@bobbob123ful I can tell, how I do. We have reverb (plate type), echo and ambience for vocals, drums are dry, pretty often an effect causes feedbacks.
Compression is used in every channel strip and master out.
How do I record an instrumental. Then go back and lay the vocals for verses and choruses on individual tracks, on a Midas M32, for one song without using a DAW?
You can't. There are a few really good free DAW's out there though. If you have an M32 you already have the part that costs money lol. The rest is free.
@@66fitton With a USB stick, record the instrumental.
Play the recording while Send the USBchannel to a mix buss along with the vocal.
Record again to USB but have the mixbuss as source
Whats up bud, hope all is well. Im thinking of buying this console but can I use all faders to mix within protools after the recording? ive heard only 8 are available to mix. thanx in advance this is the only thing that is holding me back.
Germ City Studios yes you can only use 8 faders to control protools daw and you can use the user define buttons for some functions
@@audiomediaproductionservic1051 Could you get around this by bringing the tracks as inputs into the mixer?
I like how this board shows waveforms... ours doesn't....
Overall this band sounds pretty talented.
Can you explain how you increase individual channel level to the bus. It looks like your pushing up the bus fader to send more of an individual channel. or are you increasing the overall volume of that monitor bus ?
Tom Watson in this specific video you are seeing me push the send of the individual channel into that monitor bus. There are three ways to send monitors on this console the way you are seeing is me selecting the specific channel and hitting the sends on fader button in between the input faders and the output faders that changes my output faders to the sends into that bus. I do have a video on this subject with the behringer X32, the behringer and the Midas M32 are virtually ran exactly the same way! The video is on my channel and its called Behringer X32 / Midas M32 - Output section. I also explain how to assign DCA's and Subgroups in this video thanks! By the way I am working on filming all these tutorials on the Midas M32 but you can resort to my other videos on the X32 to help you out Thanks! I really appreciate the feedback!
Audio Media Production Service Thanks. This is a very helpful video. We also tried out the wave fx unit and it sounds great on kicks !
Tom Watson I love the wave designer for kick drum. Try also using it on the snare as well it will give you that really tight snappy snare you always dreamed about! lol another idea is to put it on your drum subgroup to effect all the drums transients. Might not be the best for the cymbals though.
+Audio Media Production Service
Been using the m32 since november last year in a venue i work regularly.
I never knew you could do sends on faders this way, i did wonder why you could select a channel in sends on fader mode.
Personally i find it much quicker to just use the send knobs however i can see the merits of doing it this way
Is it possible to notice that difference in a recording? If yes, would you send me some recordings (LR, only)?
At the end of this video is recorded of the left and right bus when the band is playing together..
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A bit more *doesn't move the fader* about there?
this is a classic technique that will forever be used.
don`t understand, explain, please. What do you mean?
arranger222 placebo effect is great against feedback
Same content with behringer x32 .
Hey what plugin you use on your kick drum?
Whitson Williams its a digital mix console not a DAW
@@jadonharper1493 But you can insert some effects.
Well I would experiment with microphone position, compressor setting and equalizer.
About equalizer I would use this, to lower the cross talk, to get more boom and more punch.
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I think during check he should use plain tones on the guitar.some effects amplify way more than normal.
Guitar hum?
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