There's the occasional audio crackle or bug in the first segment of the video, I think it's because of the new setup. Will make sure to have those sorted by next video! IMPORTANT CHARITY LINKS BELOW: Feeding America: www.feedingamerica.org/ Scholarship America: scholarshipamerica.org/
When I was a 21 year old woman freshly washed out of college, I did a brief stint as a farmhand for a lady running a working farm and raising two kids while her husband was on deployment in the navy. She was the most hardworking and practical person I have ever met. She lived in rubber boots and a raincoat, she sent her kids to school and fed them store bought cereal and mcdonalds on weekends. She got up at five everyday and had no holidays or weekends. I once watched her wrestle piglets when they got into the hazelnut field, getting covered in slop and pig shit. She WAS a career woman. And her career was backbreaking and relentless. She patiently listened to my ideas of a little hobby farm where everything would be natural and self sustaining. Then she gave me a hammer and told me to go tear down a rusty old shed. I owe her so much for kindly but thoroughly waking me up from this fantasy. I don't know where I would have ended up otherwise.
holy shit so you saw someone that you admired do something that you dreamed of and you decided that you should go be another cog in the city and you are really grateful for this ? truly astonishing. id love to know what you do now, how much property you own, and how many hours a week you work
@@IilîliîliîlliI Its okay, reading comprehension is hard. I hope you one day come to terms with the delusion that farmers are somehow outside of the machine of modern capitalism.
@@LadyRaeona lmao wow you are truly more delusional than i thought. so you think that modern or hell even premodern or ancient society, civilization, even small towns and communities can subsist without agriculture? that is what is truly delusional. one way or another you need farms, you need production, you need warehouses, you need automobiles. would you rather that the state controls a monopoly on all industry and forces you to work at gunpoint (communism) or be allowed to negotiate that labor, time, energy, money, etc? you would rather put a gun to peoples head under the banner of a mono-nationalist UBER-regime that kills anyone that dissents. just admit that you want to kill people. just admit that you dont want to see people being free, independent of state control, authorizing their own labor and agency. capitalism is the freedom from the oppression that you are attempting to describe, you are just too captured by your pet ideology to recognize that. probably so high from huffing critical theory and marxist literature you cant even see straight
@@IilîliîliîlliI step by step "Think farming is easy" find farmer woman who teachers that farming is difficult and physically demanding "wow, farming is hard, I will instead do something that doesnt tax my body as much" congrats, you understand now.
What's so crazy to me is that the ultimate appeal of this fantasy is just being able to own a nice place and be perfectly comfortable on a single income.
Honestly sounds like another divide and conquer tactic. The women the tradwife fantasy appeals too are convinced the evil feminists want to take that away from them, when we'd all be a stronger unit of mobilization if they realized no, the blue haired feminists want that too, their and our interests are aligned and it's bullshit we all don't have that according to the rules of the elite.
The real unrealistic depiction is that not all of them are dependent on alcohol and valium to get through the day ("Mommy's little helper"), I'd watch a tiktok about that.
as will all forms of fash, tradwife stuff is the leveraging of an aesthetic and lifestyle that is neither possible nor adhered to by the people promoting it. these women aren't TWs they're business people, actors etc. they don't follow their own rules, the hypocrisy is again, the point. its also worth noting, that this is a great example of the lesser studied behavior and influence women have during times of fash rising, and what part they play. we often think of fash as a male thing, but there's a lot of work that is done women to build these 'movements'
truly delusional. the reason that its not possible for so many is because of the communist policy that you endorse and promote, making it harder to own homes and be self sufficient. its not a fantasy because of the work that you would have to put in, lmao, how weak and lazy actually are you?
The reel shown at 21:50 hit me like a jumpscare, and not the funny kind. I felt so uncomfortable with the implications of what I was looking at that I just kinda had to pause the video and process it for a bit. Absolutely excellent video btw. Thank you for making it. ❤
I've seen a few videos on this tradwife phenomenon and I think this is a really good one, not wasting time but going straight in for a detailed breakdown of why this content is harmful. I like the new format which switches to footage of you talking, makes it feel much more connected than the voiceover on its own.
I'm a stay at home mom and the trad wife movement bugs me. Most of us are wearing leggings or sweatpants, barely able to eat enough in a day, no time to be dolling myself up every day. Also the main reason I stay home is for my son. For his well being. That point feels lost in the trad movement? It's more about pleasing your husband and dressing a certain way.
I just want to add a little thought here, while I do understand why people criticize homeschooling, there is a massive difference between this "homeschooling" which these tradwives push and the sort of homeschooling I did. My parents homeschooled me, but I had an actual curriculum, and did actual lessons. I learned history, math, geography etc, I had exams. This nonsense that they are pushing is not even schooling.
@@wghd6782 To be fair, with how much renewed discourse it's sparked, I can't blame Hannah for feeling like the whole world is against her. Whether she's just protecting her cash cow or too blinded by ideology to see the situation she's in, I hope she can one day recognise the unhealthy dynamics her content often endorses.
ur videos on call of duty and the military entertainment complex sent me here! you present your points very clearly and don't seem to encourage any of your biases. how sociologically lovely. thank you for this video! hope to see more nuanced takes from you on the new social phenomena
Stumbled across one of your videos the other day (the insidious ahistoricism of first-person shooters) and was deeply impressed - a thoughtful, well-structured argument. This video is equally well-articulated. Subbed and i look forward to watching your channel grow. Not a bigee, but can i suggest you do something different with your microphone placement? It's a bit distracting - at first, i thought you were maybe quadriplegic or simply in one of those cocooning gamers chairs. Keep you the great work.
Damn, making great Videos about relevant topics, enlightening the impressionable youth before they fall into toxic, dangerous bubbles. You really Fell up 😪
The best way to radicalize anyone (the correct way) (imo) is to start a cooking club with them, socializing while helping eachother with basic needs. :)
I dig the whole evil marketing guy framing you got going on here. And emphasis on the word "guy" because this exact same script wouldn't hit as hard if it was delivered by a woman. In a way, you've made yourself the face of the patriarchy underpinning this whole ostensibly woman-centric genre, it's clever!
Great video I had no idea these trad wife influencer was a thing, you did a very great job explain what's behind. ps all this AI voices sounds they use are super creepy to me.. I can't stand it 😅
I completely agree with your video essay, but I do feel that it’s missing something. The idea of completely living off the land in the modern day is ridiculous and dangerous, let alone the insane cost of managing it or even purchasing the property like you mentioned. However, and that is something I heavily encourage and a Marxist, is not to necessarily downplay simple menial labour if possible. Two or three chickens in a cage in your backyard, and some simple crops here and there besides your work are healthy aspects of life that can help you escape from the dreaded 9-5 day. While traditional living is extremely revisionist, “traditional” aspects implemented in modern living are more often beneficial and also educational. Having your kid feed the chickens before heading to public school is in my opinion a progressive power of living a good life outside of the capitalist crushing machine
I do not understand how anyone who has attended school could possibly believe in home schooling. Do they not remember that they probably didn't ace every subject (never mind the fact that you need a university degree to be qualified to teach a subject)?
There are some valid reasons I've heard, like providing a way out of abuse, from peers or teachers, or systemic problems like racism. The thing is though, those parents often hire a private tutor because they put their kids' wellbeing and education BEFORE their online ideological clout. Parents like those I discussed in the video don't care about what's best for their kids. If they did, they wouldn't exploit them for content. They care about feeling correct.
I’m supportive of a combination of public schooling and homeschooling because I know how schools in general can spread extensive imperialist lies and historical revisionism. I want to be there to educate my child on subjects that I would know much better than a teacher, including history, social sciences and law.
TBYS made a video on the registered dietitian with an ED called "no food rules" and it was very badly done. I remembered your video on Abbey Sharp and wanted to suggest you look into her content and maybe you'll feel like making a video on her? There really needs to be more awareness about her unethical practices but no one who took on this topic so far has done a good job talking about it. I think you'd do it brilliantly though.
Exactly. Late stage capitalism successfully pulled both women and men out of the home to work as wage slaves so now a traditional family that works for themselves on their own land is a dead idea. And the amazing thing is the same late stage capitalist society has now convinced most (not all) people under its sway that the image of the traditional family is "problematic" "hateful" or "racist" etc etc. self sufficient families SHOULD BE AND WERE the norm until the Industrial Revolution.
@@Winaska Do most people really think the image of a traditional family is problematic, hateful, racist, etc., or are people more skeptical of people who idealize the aesthetic because some of them tend to come from the position of "Look what we had before "they" took it from us!", the "they" usually being a minority boogeyman of choice such as free women, feminists, sjws, people of color, queer people, trans people, and not the actual core of the problem such as late stage capitalism, an uber rich ruling class, politicians in the pocket of said ruling class, etc. The idea of learning more self sustaining skills and sharing both the knowledge and resources with your community is considered in more than a few leftist circles radical action. We could, when possible, learn to garden in our yards or try to create community gardens and learn to cook and share what we make and grow with others. I'm super down for that. I just won't tolerate anyone who wants to do that in service of creating a whites only fascist homestead into my community.
@@gregvs.theworld451 if the idea of returning to a more agrarian-pre-capitalist society is radical leftism that's hilarious. Remember that at one time industrialization and capitalism were the great left wing progressive movements over and against "medieval backward feudalism." "left" "right" "radical" etc are all limited political jargon that fails to grasp the reality because they are all relative to one's position in society and in history. Its not about politics, its about reconstructing what the last 200 years of "progress" stole from humanity. Taking us away from the natural world and natural organic communities and placing us first in factories and then in suburbs... and all of that was seen as "progress"
@@gregvs.theworld451 i did blame it on late stage capitalism. remember that capitalism and industrialization were once hailed as great progressive movements over and against "backward" and "medieval" agrarianism and feudalism (a misunderstood concept almost always). calling self-sustaining families "radical" sounds weird to anyone who knows their history. The "progress of the last 200 years of human history was not progress at all, made things worse. What you call radical is merely a return to a more natural and organic human existence, which would have been recognizable to any human pretty much from ancient times until the 18th century. It would be...conservative... but in a radical way i suppose. But that just proves that all these political terms are ultimately useless cause they mean so many things to so many different people. What was progressive a century ago is now usually seen as backward. of course that see-saw of opinion is part and parcel of capitalism and post-modernism: they want to keep us swinging back and forth so we cannot settle down and actually form an identity, culturally or individually. returning to organic, traditional human communities is the only way out of the trap.
@@Winaska I don't disagree with what you say that from a historical standpoint these ideas aren't radical or profound, but it is worth considering to meet people where they're at. Nobody alive today was around 200+ years ago, and while consciously history buffs can know self sufficiency wasn't all that long ago, I think some part of our monkey brains still feels like the idea of rural agrarianism was a million years ago (Provided the individual reading this wasn't raised on a farm or something). Combine that with the fact that, for a lot of people living today, late stage capitalism is the system they were born and raised under and all they've ever known, I think that as annoying as it may be we may have to pitch concepts of self sufficiency as bold and novel concepts that fly in the face of the system they've known since forever but is a better way than what we have right now.
Face reveal babiiiiiiii Fortunately i live in a country where you still have people farming stuff for fun, mostly fruits and vegetables (not grains). Noone here is under the delusion of farming being easy, even if it's just a single litchi tree 🤣 Living off the land is a great idea. Doing it alone is fkn horrible.
There's the occasional audio crackle or bug in the first segment of the video, I think it's because of the new setup. Will make sure to have those sorted by next video!
IMPORTANT CHARITY LINKS BELOW:
Feeding America:
www.feedingamerica.org/
Scholarship America:
scholarshipamerica.org/
When I was a 21 year old woman freshly washed out of college, I did a brief stint as a farmhand for a lady running a working farm and raising two kids while her husband was on deployment in the navy. She was the most hardworking and practical person I have ever met. She lived in rubber boots and a raincoat, she sent her kids to school and fed them store bought cereal and mcdonalds on weekends. She got up at five everyday and had no holidays or weekends. I once watched her wrestle piglets when they got into the hazelnut field, getting covered in slop and pig shit. She WAS a career woman. And her career was backbreaking and relentless.
She patiently listened to my ideas of a little hobby farm where everything would be natural and self sustaining. Then she gave me a hammer and told me to go tear down a rusty old shed.
I owe her so much for kindly but thoroughly waking me up from this fantasy. I don't know where I would have ended up otherwise.
holy shit so you saw someone that you admired do something that you dreamed of and you decided that you should go be another cog in the city and you are really grateful for this ? truly astonishing. id love to know what you do now, how much property you own, and how many hours a week you work
@@IilîliîliîlliI Its okay, reading comprehension is hard. I hope you one day come to terms with the delusion that farmers are somehow outside of the machine of modern capitalism.
@@LadyRaeona lmao wow you are truly more delusional than i thought. so you think that modern or hell even premodern or ancient society, civilization, even small towns and communities can subsist without agriculture? that is what is truly delusional. one way or another you need farms, you need production, you need warehouses, you need automobiles. would you rather that the state controls a monopoly on all industry and forces you to work at gunpoint (communism) or be allowed to negotiate that labor, time, energy, money, etc? you would rather put a gun to peoples head under the banner of a mono-nationalist UBER-regime that kills anyone that dissents. just admit that you want to kill people. just admit that you dont want to see people being free, independent of state control, authorizing their own labor and agency. capitalism is the freedom from the oppression that you are attempting to describe, you are just too captured by your pet ideology to recognize that. probably so high from huffing critical theory and marxist literature you cant even see straight
@@IilîliîliîlliI step by step
"Think farming is easy"
find farmer woman who teachers that farming is difficult and physically demanding
"wow, farming is hard, I will instead do something that doesnt tax my body as much"
congrats, you understand now.
@@LadyRaeonaYou are ret@rded
What's so crazy to me is that the ultimate appeal of this fantasy is just being able to own a nice place and be perfectly comfortable on a single income.
Honestly sounds like another divide and conquer tactic. The women the tradwife fantasy appeals too are convinced the evil feminists want to take that away from them, when we'd all be a stronger unit of mobilization if they realized no, the blue haired feminists want that too, their and our interests are aligned and it's bullshit we all don't have that according to the rules of the elite.
i'm a trad wife of youtube, instead of having many babies and growing herbs and spices, i plant comments in hopes that the algo crop will be plentiful
@@g00dbyemisterA Haha well it's paid off, so thank you!
The real unrealistic depiction is that not all of them are dependent on alcohol and valium to get through the day ("Mommy's little helper"), I'd watch a tiktok about that.
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Dude you’re seriously underrated I hope you grow more
as will all forms of fash, tradwife stuff is the leveraging of an aesthetic and lifestyle that is neither possible nor adhered to by the people promoting it. these women aren't TWs they're business people, actors etc. they don't follow their own rules, the hypocrisy is again, the point.
its also worth noting, that this is a great example of the lesser studied behavior and influence women have during times of fash rising, and what part they play. we often think of fash as a male thing, but there's a lot of work that is done women to build these 'movements'
@@satyasyasatyasya5746 It's two sides of the "remember what you're fighting for back home" coin, for sure.
They are just like one step away from becoming the Only fans e-girl but dressed like an catholic
truly delusional. the reason that its not possible for so many is because of the communist policy that you endorse and promote, making it harder to own homes and be self sufficient. its not a fantasy because of the work that you would have to put in, lmao, how weak and lazy actually are you?
The reel shown at 21:50 hit me like a jumpscare, and not the funny kind. I felt so uncomfortable with the implications of what I was looking at that I just kinda had to pause the video and process it for a bit.
Absolutely excellent video btw. Thank you for making it. ❤
I've seen a few videos on this tradwife phenomenon and I think this is a really good one, not wasting time but going straight in for a detailed breakdown of why this content is harmful.
I like the new format which switches to footage of you talking, makes it feel much more connected than the voiceover on its own.
I'm a stay at home mom and the trad wife movement bugs me. Most of us are wearing leggings or sweatpants, barely able to eat enough in a day, no time to be dolling myself up every day. Also the main reason I stay home is for my son. For his well being. That point feels lost in the trad movement? It's more about pleasing your husband and dressing a certain way.
I just want to add a little thought here, while I do understand why people criticize homeschooling, there is a massive difference between this "homeschooling" which these tradwives push and the sort of homeschooling I did. My parents homeschooled me, but I had an actual curriculum, and did actual lessons. I learned history, math, geography etc, I had exams. This nonsense that they are pushing is not even schooling.
Same here. I had pretty superior elementary and middle homeschooling, but went to public high school and was glad I did. There’s a massive variety.
Data male, your my new dude. I like your videos. Real and you hit every point 💯
Glad you enjoy!
"Shocked the world" 27:55
Omg, the narcissism, the hubris, I can’t
@@wghd6782 To be fair, with how much renewed discourse it's sparked, I can't blame Hannah for feeling like the whole world is against her.
Whether she's just protecting her cash cow or too blinded by ideology to see the situation she's in, I hope she can one day recognise the unhealthy dynamics her content often endorses.
I love the amount of research that you put into these videos👍🏼
ur videos on call of duty and the military entertainment complex sent me here! you present your points very clearly and don't seem to encourage any of your biases. how sociologically lovely. thank you for this video! hope to see more nuanced takes from you on the new social phenomena
Oh this is definitely going on my big essay list!
Stumbled across one of your videos the other day (the insidious ahistoricism of first-person shooters) and was deeply impressed - a thoughtful, well-structured argument. This video is equally well-articulated. Subbed and i look forward to watching your channel grow. Not a bigee, but can i suggest you do something different with your microphone placement? It's a bit distracting - at first, i thought you were maybe quadriplegic or simply in one of those cocooning gamers chairs. Keep you the great work.
Ahh yeah, lemme get the popcorn! Time to WATCH this! Loved the "Alt right playbook" series, and this feels like a nice addition to that genre 😊
babe wake up a new Data Male video just dropped
Your videos are great man i'm really surprised you have so little subscribers for such high quality videos, keep up the good work
Damn, making great Videos about relevant topics, enlightening the impressionable youth before they fall into toxic, dangerous bubbles. You really Fell up 😪
Damn, this channel is banger after banger.
Amazing vid as always!!
First good looking essayist on UA-cam
another Data Male classic, thanks 👍🏿
Banger video as usual
The best way to radicalize anyone (the correct way) (imo) is to start a cooking club with them, socializing while helping eachother with basic needs. :)
11:25 that was some top tier comedy :D
Perfectly dry delivery, too.
I dig the whole evil marketing guy framing you got going on here. And emphasis on the word "guy" because this exact same script wouldn't hit as hard if it was delivered by a woman. In a way, you've made yourself the face of the patriarchy underpinning this whole ostensibly woman-centric genre, it's clever!
great video 💙🤍💙
Great video I had no idea these trad wife influencer was a thing, you did a very great job explain what's behind. ps all this AI voices sounds they use are super creepy to me.. I can't stand it 😅
I completely agree with your video essay, but I do feel that it’s missing something. The idea of completely living off the land in the modern day is ridiculous and dangerous, let alone the insane cost of managing it or even purchasing the property like you mentioned. However, and that is something I heavily encourage and a Marxist, is not to necessarily downplay simple menial labour if possible. Two or three chickens in a cage in your backyard, and some simple crops here and there besides your work are healthy aspects of life that can help you escape from the dreaded 9-5 day. While traditional living is extremely revisionist, “traditional” aspects implemented in modern living are more often beneficial and also educational. Having your kid feed the chickens before heading to public school is in my opinion a progressive power of living a good life outside of the capitalist crushing machine
I live in an apartment building.
I do not understand how anyone who has attended school could possibly believe in home schooling. Do they not remember that they probably didn't ace every subject (never mind the fact that you need a university degree to be qualified to teach a subject)?
There are some valid reasons I've heard, like providing a way out of abuse, from peers or teachers, or systemic problems like racism.
The thing is though, those parents often hire a private tutor because they put their kids' wellbeing and education BEFORE their online ideological clout.
Parents like those I discussed in the video don't care about what's best for their kids. If they did, they wouldn't exploit them for content.
They care about feeling correct.
Is not about education
Is about brainwashing
I’m supportive of a combination of public schooling and homeschooling because I know how schools in general can spread extensive imperialist lies and historical revisionism. I want to be there to educate my child on subjects that I would know much better than a teacher, including history, social sciences and law.
TBYS made a video on the registered dietitian with an ED called "no food rules" and it was very badly done. I remembered your video on Abbey Sharp and wanted to suggest you look into her content and maybe you'll feel like making a video on her? There really needs to be more awareness about her unethical practices but no one who took on this topic so far has done a good job talking about it. I think you'd do it brilliantly though.
I know that's not the point, but judging by the shelf, it must be a really heavy teapot.
Thanks for calling me out as coming here from Any Austin's recommendation.
Lets be honest you have to be REALLY rich to be a tradwife. Rich and white.
Exactly. Late stage capitalism successfully pulled both women and men out of the home to work as wage slaves so now a traditional family that works for themselves on their own land is a dead idea. And the amazing thing is the same late stage capitalist society has now convinced most (not all) people under its sway that the image of the traditional family is "problematic" "hateful" or "racist" etc etc. self sufficient families SHOULD BE AND WERE the norm until the Industrial Revolution.
@@Winaska Do most people really think the image of a traditional family is problematic, hateful, racist, etc., or are people more skeptical of people who idealize the aesthetic because some of them tend to come from the position of "Look what we had before "they" took it from us!", the "they" usually being a minority boogeyman of choice such as free women, feminists, sjws, people of color, queer people, trans people, and not the actual core of the problem such as late stage capitalism, an uber rich ruling class, politicians in the pocket of said ruling class, etc.
The idea of learning more self sustaining skills and sharing both the knowledge and resources with your community is considered in more than a few leftist circles radical action. We could, when possible, learn to garden in our yards or try to create community gardens and learn to cook and share what we make and grow with others. I'm super down for that. I just won't tolerate anyone who wants to do that in service of creating a whites only fascist homestead into my community.
@@gregvs.theworld451 if the idea of returning to a more agrarian-pre-capitalist society is radical leftism that's hilarious. Remember that at one time industrialization and capitalism were the great left wing progressive movements over and against "medieval backward feudalism." "left" "right" "radical" etc are all limited political jargon that fails to grasp the reality because they are all relative to one's position in society and in history. Its not about politics, its about reconstructing what the last 200 years of "progress" stole from humanity. Taking us away from the natural world and natural organic communities and placing us first in factories and then in suburbs... and all of that was seen as "progress"
@@gregvs.theworld451 i did blame it on late stage capitalism. remember that capitalism and industrialization were once hailed as great progressive movements over and against "backward" and "medieval" agrarianism and feudalism (a misunderstood concept almost always). calling self-sustaining families "radical" sounds weird to anyone who knows their history. The "progress of the last 200 years of human history was not progress at all, made things worse. What you call radical is merely a return to a more natural and organic human existence, which would have been recognizable to any human pretty much from ancient times until the 18th century. It would be...conservative... but in a radical way i suppose. But that just proves that all these political terms are ultimately useless cause they mean so many things to so many different people. What was progressive a century ago is now usually seen as backward. of course that see-saw of opinion is part and parcel of capitalism and post-modernism: they want to keep us swinging back and forth so we cannot settle down and actually form an identity, culturally or individually. returning to organic, traditional human communities is the only way out of the trap.
@@Winaska I don't disagree with what you say that from a historical standpoint these ideas aren't radical or profound, but it is worth considering to meet people where they're at. Nobody alive today was around 200+ years ago, and while consciously history buffs can know self sufficiency wasn't all that long ago, I think some part of our monkey brains still feels like the idea of rural agrarianism was a million years ago (Provided the individual reading this wasn't raised on a farm or something). Combine that with the fact that, for a lot of people living today, late stage capitalism is the system they were born and raised under and all they've ever known, I think that as annoying as it may be we may have to pitch concepts of self sufficiency as bold and novel concepts that fly in the face of the system they've known since forever but is a better way than what we have right now.
Comment for the algorithm!
Face reveal babiiiiiiii
Fortunately i live in a country where you still have people farming stuff for fun, mostly fruits and vegetables (not grains). Noone here is under the delusion of farming being easy, even if it's just a single litchi tree 🤣
Living off the land is a great idea. Doing it alone is fkn horrible.
Face?!
1:17 that’s an intense face. Didn’t think you would look like that
Hay, the soldier keeps marching on. Thought i blocked this channel. Oh, well. Misogyny in service of women. Yeah, that's what i expected.
Well if you blocked him, why are you commenting right now? Blocking someone implies that you dislike them, so why continue to comment?
Is this mansplaning?. Is this a man angry with mundanity an simplicity?
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
If everything you put out is critical. Are you just Cynical?…
Cynicism is not a bad thing
@@nallely__rodriguez erm I think it is because we are all here for a very short time, cynics have a mental block on trust and whimsy
Been waiting for this