The Woman Who Rejected Her Career To Be A Housewife | Stacey Dooley Sleeps Over

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  • Опубліковано 15 січ 2024
  • Stacey Dooley is back with more Sleeps Over! Stacey continues to explore a cross-section of society by spending 72 hours in the company of six unique households. From sleeping in the spare room to sharing family meals and going on outings, she will get involved in every aspect of their lives in a bid to understand them and the community they represent!
    Stacey Dooley sleeps over at the home of the Sedile family, where Lillian, a mother of two, is a member of the growing community of 'tradwives' - a group of women who have rejected career ambitions in favour of becoming the archetypal traditional housewife. Stacey joins Lillian and her husband Felipe, 'the boss' of the household, as they celebrate 10 years of marriage. Stacey will question if this promise to obey their husbands makes these women as happy as they suggest.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 246

  • @miramataija1628
    @miramataija1628 Місяць тому +15

    I get why the women feel that is is more rewarding to put their energy into the family than work outside home. But why does it have to come with a tyrant of a husband?

  • @725Kellybean
    @725Kellybean 4 місяці тому +123

    I’ve been a stay at home mom for almost 30 years. I raised the kids, took care of the house, and homeschooled.
    I am not a trad wife. My husband and I are equally in charge of everything.

  • @hello_tonmk1402
    @hello_tonmk1402 2 місяці тому +22

    I absolutely don't like the husband.

  • @oliviadutrow7073
    @oliviadutrow7073 4 місяці тому +98

    I understand where they’re coming from and agree with parts. But I also agree that there can be traditional roles with equal respect. I’m not super sure I see that here.

    • @isaacengineer2280
      @isaacengineer2280 4 місяці тому +11

      Where don't you see that here? both man and woman are equal and have to play a role for a family to run well. she is happy, not restricted, she spends the money that he makes for the family, has her allows as he said, and raising a fantastic kids with excellent morals and values. if both of them are working the government and society will raise your kids. This is great for our society that their are still Trad wife's and Trad husbands.

    • @TiffanyAllen1784
      @TiffanyAllen1784 День тому

      @@isaacengineer2280They typically aren’t trad husbands, though. They expect women to fulfill all their traditional roles, but how many of them can hunt and fish and plow and build a house? Some dude sitting at a desk isn’t pulling his weight in this sort of relationship the way she is. And there’s nothing strong or secure about needing another adult to submit to your will.

    • @TiffanyAllen1784
      @TiffanyAllen1784 День тому

      @@isaacengineer2280Also, you’re kind of announcing to the world that you’ve never made a woman happy if you’re saying she seems happy to you.

    • @isaacengineer2280
      @isaacengineer2280 День тому

      @@TiffanyAllen1784 A man who is hunting is hunting for food. In this case is hunting for job so they can make money and earn a living to provide for their family. Men naturally are trad husband because they have to provide, protect, and lead a family. Men don't just wait for a woman to provide, protect them because that's not a woman duty and responsibility to create an optimal family. Women are naturally fit to take care of kids and build the home while the men are more suitable for going out there an earn to provide. Can a woman earn too, yes But then both parents are busy and the government and society raises your kid because you have to put them in daycare and they learn poor behaviors that are not good for growth and development. The optimal way is one works outside to earn a way and one is at home to take care of the kids and make a home and raise a great family. I am very happy both of them are happy. I wish you all the best.

    • @TiffanyAllen1784
      @TiffanyAllen1784 День тому

      @@isaacengineer2280 I wish you a life without a single woman giving you the time of day. You’re as unfit to head a family as this dude.

  • @PT-zz9ks
    @PT-zz9ks 4 місяці тому +106

    As a former expat I see this a bit differently. I think Lillian is isolated in a new country and bored and uses her role as a wife and mother as a way to occupy her time and mind and essentially give her something to do. They are also living in a country but not actually experiencing the culture and also isolating their children, which will have effects on their socialization.

    • @d.m.3753
      @d.m.3753 4 місяці тому +8

      Interesting point, hadn't looked at it from that angle yet.

    • @emphasisonafro
      @emphasisonafro 4 місяці тому +17

      She was shown with a group of friends who also made the same choice. No one forced her to marry him, have kids, move to England, and stop working. She’s an adult woman who made her choices and if she’s fulfilled it’s none of anyone’s business. This woman has 3 degrees and is a former model. If she wanted a job (or a divorce) she could get one. It also looks like they are socializing their kids with like minded families. That’s their decision

    • @grumpyschnauzer
      @grumpyschnauzer 4 місяці тому +5

      True but your assumptions could also be what provides Lillian with purpose and purpose comes in all shapes and sizes with regards to lifestyle.

    • @Mejiaelis
      @Mejiaelis 3 місяці тому +4

      Don’t see that at all

    • @Aila_h
      @Aila_h 2 місяці тому +1

      Isolating their children? How so?
      I was raised by a trad mother and was homeschooled my entire life- my social life as a child was incredibly fulfilled and full of daily adventures with children of all walks of life. You aware that homeschooled children are put into sports and activities such music, arts, dance…
      My mother had a very enriching social life as well.
      People need to stop judging what they don’t know. If you don’t know what homeschool or trad life consists of then don’t give an uneducated opinion.

  • @stephaniecervantes5515
    @stephaniecervantes5515 Місяць тому +14

    Just watching this and realized the first thing the dad commented on about Stacey was her earrings....just a bit telling that he finds her appearance the most important thing about her on first impression

  • @tanya2660
    @tanya2660 4 місяці тому +164

    As a feminist I think she has the right to make decisions about her life that she feels are the best for her and her family.
    Deciding to stay at home with the children is not incongruent with feminism.

    • @jorge-7121
      @jorge-7121 4 місяці тому +3

      It is incongruent. You are being disingenuous.

    • @tylerwilkerson5828
      @tylerwilkerson5828 3 місяці тому

      Absolutely! Feminists believe that the nuclear family is the 'base' for socialisation that oppresses women.

    • @SpeakTheTruthLouder
      @SpeakTheTruthLouder 3 місяці тому +4

      @@jorge-7121 No, you are being disingenuous.

    • @vanessaandreatta9098
      @vanessaandreatta9098 3 місяці тому +12

      I totally agree, feminism is freedom to be any female you wish to be, and to not to be treated differently because of your choice, gender, or family. Respect is core

    • @amarokie
      @amarokie 2 місяці тому

      Ah yes the myth of choice feminism

  • @tammyjackson5927
    @tammyjackson5927 4 місяці тому +46

    If you are a trad wife, the husband must treat in a way that makes you feel valued & loved! A good wife is true treasure & husband should treat trad wife as such! If the husband is controlling & demanding this marriage will not work!

  • @sawyer0815
    @sawyer0815 3 місяці тому +31

    Excuse me what??? A rock march?????? What is wrong with him?!!!!

  • @blamethereview
    @blamethereview 4 місяці тому +79

    The babies carry heavy things when they are not good? They are gonna have the most rebellious teens for sure

  • @melissawingfield8666
    @melissawingfield8666 4 місяці тому +46

    They have a shared bank account, but the woman gets an "allowance?"

    • @emphasisonafro
      @emphasisonafro 4 місяці тому +6

      Yes, money she can spend on herself and her upkeep as a woman

    • @melissawingfield8666
      @melissawingfield8666 4 місяці тому +12

      @@emphasisonafro My point was that she should be able to take out what she wants, no matter how much or little it is. If they trust each other it's not like she's going to empty the account.

    • @emphasisonafro
      @emphasisonafro 4 місяці тому +13

      @@melissawingfield8666 It’s called a budget. No she shouldn’t take out as much as she wants, and neither should he. They do trust each other as they have clearly budgeted money specifically for her to do whatever she wants with it. He clearly said she pays all of the bills he just makes sure the money is there to do so.

    • @WamuyuGatheru
      @WamuyuGatheru 2 місяці тому +2

      I think all couples who share accounts have that - a limit to personal spending

    • @rovalq1
      @rovalq1 Місяць тому

      She looks like she comes from big money also! Don't think she is worried 😂

  • @norah.5396
    @norah.5396 3 місяці тому +25

    This was so painful to watch. Stacey, I admired you a lot being kind and nice as always while it was clear that this was your horror version of life

  • @hhlentz
    @hhlentz 2 місяці тому +26

    When Stacey was talking with the husband outside, it’s clear that he’s not really listening to her opinions based on his body language and immediate and constant responses of, “Yeah, yeah.”

  • @sawyer0815
    @sawyer0815 3 місяці тому +24

    Omg worst nightmare ever what an insecure guy to be needing a wife that just shuts the f up

  • @Walaoehpaul
    @Walaoehpaul 2 місяці тому +7

    She's crying because Stacey who's the person why things were normal is leaving.

  • @rubygarcia3327
    @rubygarcia3327 2 місяці тому +12

    My goal is to be a stay-at-home mom/wife, homeschooling, and being a housewife. I can't wait!!

  • @clt2744
    @clt2744 2 місяці тому +8

    A Rock March?? Symbolising Jesus carrying the cross? Are they for real?!

  • @circesercy2190
    @circesercy2190 4 місяці тому +43

    2 masters degrees and she has confused "masculine men" with insecurities and a reason for cheating 🧐🤐.

    • @alexandrak.7644
      @alexandrak.7644 3 дні тому

      she is actually right about that. data backs it up^^ is the radical feminism brainwash really that strong? 🧐

  • @nicoledeleon8737
    @nicoledeleon8737 2 місяці тому +17

    I am just very concern about the kids, I can see they are not happy. I hope this is not another case of a narcissist manipulating the whole family .

    • @miramataija1628
      @miramataija1628 Місяць тому +6

      Children can't grasp abstract concepts at such a young age. His explaination for them carrying stones is just an excuse for him to dominate them. He clearly didn't leave his old culture when he moved.

    • @hannah50353
      @hannah50353 Місяць тому +1

      This is definitely a case of narcissistic abuse. The children’s relationship with their father and mother is very telling, there is little trust there, I saw fear and uncertainty in the girl's eyes.😢

    • @TiffanyAllen1784
      @TiffanyAllen1784 День тому

      Of course it is. Reasonable people don’t need to have control over other adults. Especially not someone who is supposed to be their partner in life.

    • @TiffanyAllen1784
      @TiffanyAllen1784 День тому

      @@miramataija1628You have no way of knowing where he picked up that abusive behavior. You need to take a look at how some conservative Americans who’ve lived in the US for generations raise their children. He could have just as easily learned it from them. The terminology they’re using certainly sounds more like American conservatism. No need to blame it on another culture. There’s plenty of that in the west.

  • @justjules6975
    @justjules6975 3 місяці тому +62

    The little girl is afraid of the dad and it’s painfully obvious. I think things are not as nice when company is not there. As a DV survivor this had red flags all over it for me.

    • @SpeakTheTruthLouder
      @SpeakTheTruthLouder 3 місяці тому +4

      " I think things are not as nice when company is not there."
      There is nothing about this that says that. You are projecting negative feelings onto other people.
      And "the little girl is afraid of the dad and it’s painfully obvious."
      First, that is not obvious at all. Just because she is looking at him when he talks and she isn't dancing? And I grew up in a family where my mom was always yelling at my dad, and yet I was afraid of my dad. Girls, you are REALLY projecting hard.

    • @justjules6975
      @justjules6975 3 місяці тому +10

      @@SpeakTheTruthLouderNo I’m speaking the truth louder😉 I see what I see here.

    • @miramataija1628
      @miramataija1628 Місяць тому +5

      I think it seems not as nice with the cameras on. Imagine what it is like when the camera is off.

    • @itsgoingtobeok-justbreathe4808
      @itsgoingtobeok-justbreathe4808 26 днів тому +1

      yup....he's not just traditional....he's a domineering brute i suspect

    • @TiffanyAllen1784
      @TiffanyAllen1784 День тому

      @@SpeakTheTruthLouderIt sounds more like you’re projecting. It is painfully obvious to anyone who recognizes the signs. You’re clearly not adept at reading emotions. The only happy person in that household is the person subjecting everyone else to his whims. And there’s nothing strong or masculine about needing everyone else to submit to you to feel powerful. Actually, confidently strong people don’t need that.

  • @jjoh158
    @jjoh158 2 місяці тому +6

    I’m shocked at him telling her clothes may not be flattering on her and her being a whole tall beautiful model. Which I’m sure everything looks beautiful on her

  • @d.m.3753
    @d.m.3753 4 місяці тому +54

    What I find interesting is that she didn't start off as a trad wife... There are enough women who always wanted to be trad wives. Yet, he didn't pick one of those women. I think part of his interest in her was to make a career woman into a trad woman. I think it's an interesting way for him to show his dominance.

    • @ghhm2705
      @ghhm2705 3 місяці тому +5

      I think they both evolved into similar beliefs after the children came along, but I say this as a wife and mother that experienced becoming a “trad wife” after our children came along (unplanned).

    • @acfatemi
      @acfatemi 3 місяці тому +3

      Running a home, building good family life and bringing up children well is like having a small business; maybe the husband wanted an intelligent & capable business partner?
      Choosing a reliable partner in this mission is essential, for both the husband and the wife.
      Women with higher education make better mums bc they are more able to find and process relevant information about children’s wellness. Also a woman with a higher education are usually well organised and disciplined. A woman that could have had her own career don’t view the man merely as money machine. There’s some security with a wife that could at any time step out in the workforce in a situation of distress such as husband having an accident or illness and not able to work or if the husband find himself in between jobs

    • @d.m.3753
      @d.m.3753 3 місяці тому +4

      @@acfatemi He could have done so with a woman who had traditional values. There are women out there with degrees who are looking to be stay at home wives after college for instance. I went to school with them actually. They often got engaged during their senior year to a fellow student. What I am referring to are values not whether they have a degree or not.

    • @d.m.3753
      @d.m.3753 3 місяці тому +2

      @@ghhm2705 I see what you are saying. I def think becoming a mother/parent can change your perspectives on the work life balance. But what had me come to this conclusion was more how she expressed that he had to coach her into it. And that if she would have made a similar salary to him she would have continued working. That is what has me worried. Also that he wants to have a final say in what she wears etc. It comes across as controlling which he seems to enjoy.

    • @acfatemi
      @acfatemi 3 місяці тому +2

      @@d.m.3753 🤔obviously it is something I am missing here.
      Is the husband really dominant or just showing off according to his cultural heritage? To me it seems that the wife is controlling everything behind a silent smile ( I know a chinese lady like that, one of my best friends). Sometimes people act in public according to the dominant ideology of their society (I’ve seen this in my life): in Sweden a wife would say that she & husband share all the housework though she in fact does much more than him, in Spain (some years ago) the wife would be boosting that she does everything and then You see the neighbour husband doing the dishes when door is open for a moment… It is always difficult to know what is really going on…
      However, selling an idea of a dominant husband with the rest of the family in submission might be dangerous. So, what is the difference between a ”tradwife” and a traditional housewife?
      I don’t get the nuance you seem to imply???

  • @katekuenstler9465
    @katekuenstler9465 4 місяці тому +42

    I found interesting the daughter emotionally latching onto Stacey. I wonder if this is normal development or if Stacey reminds the daughter of Lillian somehow? Or maybe she’s seeking out more emotional connection? it stuck out how she cried when Stacey had to leave, wrote Stacey a letter because she’s shy. Clearly Stacey’s presence meant something to her. I just wonder how typical it is for her age. I remember doing similar things, and I didn’t quite get the emotional support I needed as a child. Not that her behavior means she’s not getting enough love or attention but I definitely wonder about the dynamics of the family in terms of vulnerability, expressing negative feelings, etc.
    a lot to take from a snippet in a video I realize

    • @SpeakTheTruthLouder
      @SpeakTheTruthLouder 3 місяці тому +4

      It is not about YOU. Immature women need to stop going under every comment section and project everything that happened to them on others. Your conclusions are always to make some stranger, usually men, your hate target. Repeat this to yourself next time; "I am not God. I am not the center of the universe. I don't have to find strangers to hate because I refuse to forgive someone whom I THINK PURPOSELY hurt me. I can GROW UP and take ownership of my life, and learn to forgive. I am not THAT important and definitely not more important than anyone else."

    • @alexexplains9580
      @alexexplains9580 3 місяці тому +14

      As a nanny, often kids attach like this when their home life is unstable or they feel like they don’t have enough positive attention from their actual family. It’s very sad actually, knowing that kid will be left without the bond they’ve created and knowing they don’t have option to experience with their life as it is.

    • @alexissandusky
      @alexissandusky 2 місяці тому +8

      As someone in healthcare who had to take childhood development courses in college as a mandated reported it’s very atypical for a child to cling to and find more comfort in a stranger over their parents or a person in a parental role to them and is typically a sign of a bonding issue stemming from lack of proper emotional support but other common reasons are physical neglect and physical abuse and it can lead to a diagnosis of CAD.

    • @hadrianryan4179
      @hadrianryan4179 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@SpeakTheTruthLouder calm down, Sunshine, you sound hysterical.

    • @miramataija1628
      @miramataija1628 Місяць тому +3

      My collegue who has worked with children for 25 years taught me that children who show that behaviour are not feeling safe. Before that I thought aww look how social those children are, gravitating towards every adult they meet.

  • @sawyer0815
    @sawyer0815 3 місяці тому +16

    I feel so awfully sorry for her she has been so brainwashed by him

    • @acfatemi
      @acfatemi 3 місяці тому

      I think it is the other way 😂

  • @ameliorated
    @ameliorated 2 місяці тому +14

    Things took a bit of a turn at rock march and no tv for that week. What could the kid be doing that requires this as a response?

    • @miramataija1628
      @miramataija1628 Місяць тому +4

      He is just a tyrant. You can see how he despises his male friend for doing chores around the home.

  • @alisonhawke1813
    @alisonhawke1813 4 місяці тому +15

    It seems like the only way this marriage could be healthy is if the husband and wife respected each other. There are WAY too many ways this could end in abuse or long built resentment. I’m not saying it can’t work, but it would take a worthy partner.
    Being vulnerable CAN be bad, if you are vulnerable with the WRONG person. Someone who does not have your best interest at heart. It scares me how easily this could become unsafe 😢❤
    That being said, they both seem to feel safe and valued. So good for them 🤷🏻‍♀️💜
    I think having two partners who can interchange roles based on household needs is best. It seems these days with so much environmental/economical unrest it is SAFEST for both partners have the means to work. How much, where, to what extent, should be up to the couple. Albeit, that can be tricky ❤
    I worry about consent in sexual relationships here…………

  • @mountainyaya
    @mountainyaya 4 місяці тому +54

    Having been a tradwife for 35 years, I LOVE it! My husband treats me as an equal and WANTS to hear my opinions. He usually will wait until we are both on the same page before making major decisions. However, if a decision HAS to be made and we aren’t together on things I willingly want to yield to him. There is MUCH security for me and our children this way. ❤

    • @piggy0317
      @piggy0317 4 місяці тому +6

      This is exactly how I feel. Congrats on 35 years! There's a security that comes with being able to let your partner lead.

    • @beabasson3132
      @beabasson3132 4 місяці тому +2

      Wonderfully stated

    • @jorge-7121
      @jorge-7121 4 місяці тому

      EQUAL ? Men and women are not equal

    • @acfatemi
      @acfatemi 3 місяці тому

      @@jorge-7121equal (in value), YES! However not the same….
      Choose to honour complementarity 🥂

    • @TiffanyAllen1784
      @TiffanyAllen1784 День тому

      More security? Nobody is guaranteed anything in life. What happens if he’s injured and can’t work? Or if you become a widow? Or if he runs off with someone else and takes all the financial assets with him? That’s not security. You know what ‘traditional’ means, right? So what traditionally, historically happened to women in your shoes when something happened to the family unit? It wasn’t anything resembling security, that’s for sure.

  • @patsy-hm9rg
    @patsy-hm9rg 4 місяці тому +35

    I could never be a Trad wife personally but isn’t that what feminism was all about? The right to choose? This woman had two Master degrees yet chose this lifestyle for herself. If she is happier being subservient to her husband then this was her choice. Who are we to judge her?

    • @piggy0317
      @piggy0317 4 місяці тому +6

      I love this comment. I'm a Tradwife and the only people who ever have anything negative to say are feminists. I thought the whole point was to be able to live how we want to live, but apparently that only counts if you don't choose to be a housewife.

    • @patsy-hm9rg
      @patsy-hm9rg 4 місяці тому +4

      @@piggy0317 btw I consider myself to be a feminist. I raised two sons after my ex decided he didn’t want to be a husband. I worked in various fields in order to support them to adulthood

    • @patsy-hm9rg
      @patsy-hm9rg 4 місяці тому +5

      I truly believe in the equality in pay. I am also pro-choice.

    • @piggy0317
      @piggy0317 4 місяці тому +2

      @@patsy-hm9rg I consider myself to be a feminist as well, but a traditional feminist. I very much believe a woman should get to choose what happens to her body, and I also believe there's no right way to be a woman. But many many modern feminists disagree with my decision to be a homemaker.

    • @piggy0317
      @piggy0317 4 місяці тому +1

      @@patsy-hm9rg and of course equal pay. Equality in all areas. I think the disconnect is that people think we're agreeing to inequality when we choose to stay home. But that couldn't be farther from the truth.

  • @fionagallego4756
    @fionagallego4756 4 місяці тому +34

    This guy's family is from South America where the machismo is very prevalent.
    He's just doing what he has been bred to do, be the "man" of the house and his word is final.
    Marriage is where one partner complements the other, not rules the other.

    • @jorge-7121
      @jorge-7121 4 місяці тому +3

      You are wrong. It is stupid to try to run any organization without a clear leader - CEO , just stupid. Also, his family is not from South America, but I'm not surprised, for a feminist I don't expect any accuracy about facts.

    • @fionagallego4756
      @fionagallego4756 4 місяці тому

      South America or Central America, they're all have the machismo complex. Just like this guy, his world is final.
      A marriage is a partnership, we are supposed to live in a democracy not a dictatorship.
      You don't know me, therefore, you can't classify me as a feminist.
      Also, you can't say that I'm wrong when you don't know me from anyone in this world.

    • @monicadelreal8212
      @monicadelreal8212 4 місяці тому

      Obviously your listening skills are not the greatest. He said his family origins are from Central America. Not South America. If you don’t like her life, then don’t follow it. She’s a true feminist. She got the right to choose her lifestyle. Unlike you. So judgmental of another lady who chooses something different for her life. Let’s see how your picture perfect life is. I bet nothing happier than Lilian’s life. Jealousy veering its ugly head, is becoming of you. I can see it. It’s ok to be jealous. But, grow up.

    • @APurpleRain
      @APurpleRain 4 місяці тому

      ​@@jorge-71213:59

    • @TiffanyAllen1784
      @TiffanyAllen1784 День тому

      This guy grew up in the United States and is using terminology that it is consistent with white, conservative, Christian ideology. You’re kidding yourself if you think that sort of thing isn’t just as prevalent in the US.

  • @sawyer0815
    @sawyer0815 3 місяці тому +21

    Obedience 🤦🏻‍♀️ he needs more than just therapy

  • @flourishwithMJ
    @flourishwithMJ 3 місяці тому +16

    Life is not about career, achievements, fame, or acquisitions. All of those do not last. It doesn't matter how successful you are in career, but if all your relationships are out of whack, it's not going to be a happy life. Life is all about relationships. Learning how to love is the number one point of life.❤

    • @acfatemi
      @acfatemi 3 місяці тому +1

      True❣️❣️❣️❣️

    • @SpeakTheTruthLouder
      @SpeakTheTruthLouder 3 місяці тому +1

      Agree

    • @leahc2020
      @leahc2020 3 місяці тому

      it can also be about both. making a difference in the world while also cultivating meaningful relationships

  • @LucianaOliveira-rn2kk
    @LucianaOliveira-rn2kk 3 місяці тому +3

    First time seeing one of your productions, Steacy. Great work! Very inpressive how you manage to keep it diplomatic during 72 hours, without strongly confronting them. At the same time, they do know that you disagree with their lifestyle, or, better put, would not adopt it. So I can't help but wonder why they would agree to have their lifes dissected? Is there any kind of commercial agreement? In other words: are they offered payment?

    • @mizboom
      @mizboom 3 місяці тому +3

      I think people with strong opinions that go against the mainstream just want their voices heard. They’ve clearly reflected on their lifestyle and consciously chosen it but they must feel the world disagrees with them. So they might just want to show where they’re coming from and find acceptance. I’m pretty sure there is no payment.

    • @SpeakTheTruthLouder
      @SpeakTheTruthLouder 3 місяці тому

      I don't know what is wrong with your thinking that makes you feel they should worry about hiding anything. They obviously have nothing to hide and are pretty happy. The woman is clearly very confident and happy. From just appearance there clearly isn't nothing to hide. The husband and wife totally talk equally much, and the wife clearly is MORE educated than you and older to know what she is comfortable with. There is literally nothing wrong here, and you're sitting here literally making up ulterior motives and speculations that come from nothing but your own unbelief. Try to stop being so critical of others and think about what you need to do with your own mentality instead.

  • @staceymoy1589
    @staceymoy1589 4 місяці тому +24

    Why does many people always say that little girls dream to be like to be saved by a knight in shiny armor, to be a wife and mother? I believe each woman has their own path in this life on earth. As a little girl, I never dreamed to be a mother and wife. I didn't know what I wanted to grow up as. I don't take pleasure in doing housework. I feel blessed to be where I am; I'm truly content as a single woman without any children at home. My day job I actually care for other people's kids and I'm good with that. I trust God in helping me to fulfill my purpose on earth as the way I am; may His love shines through me and his glory shown through me.

    • @acfatemi
      @acfatemi 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes, we have different callings in life. God doesn’t do copies, each person is unique

    • @SpeakTheTruthLouder
      @SpeakTheTruthLouder 3 місяці тому +2

      She is talking about the majority, not all people at all times. She did not say little girls dream to be wife and mother. She said only little girls dream to be saved by a knight in shiny armor. I do believe everyone dreams of being saved. Knight in shiny armor is just something representative of that idea. Jesus Christ is that knight in shiny armor. She is not wrong. But to put that hope in your husband or your being used by God are both not the real point. God Himself should be our delight. There is no more significance in either one. Our worth is in how much Jesus Christ paid for redemption - it is in not our lifestyles or situations. All this shall pass quickly, only love, faith and hope remain - and believers in Jesus Christ. So as a single, I'd say don't take it to heart what people say.

    • @acfatemi
      @acfatemi 3 місяці тому +1

      @@SpeakTheTruthLouder yes, true, I agree! Though it is a constant (sometimes daily) spiritual battle: to trust in God, in Jesus, and not try to find another saviour….. that is the Devils plan or if You rather like psychology, a set up to become a victim of a predator. A husband is only a knight if he himself trust in God and thus in some way represent God just as a christian wife represent the church and reflects the love & beauty of God

    • @miramataija1628
      @miramataija1628 Місяць тому

      Me neither. I have never understood why people say all girls dream of their wedding. Of all the friends I had growing up only one talked about marriage and kids as a kid.

  • @juliamaciaslopez6632
    @juliamaciaslopez6632 4 місяці тому +12

    I think the icky part about this is the whole man > woman and if woman > man, he could cheat. My mom was a housewife for years because it was stressing taking care of two toddlers + working, while my dad is self employed and works all day everyday. So he told her that it would be no problem if she stopped working. He recognises she does work a lot, cause taking care of children and a house is work. When we got older she went back to work, but spends less hours at the office to go grocery shopping, cleaning, cooking, etc.
    If I got married, I would love that dinamic. We both work but if for some reason one of us feels like they can’t with everything, we could take some time off work. Of course it would only be if we had the sufficient income to do that lol

  • @juliakent2560
    @juliakent2560 2 місяці тому +3

    I LOVE being a stay at home, homeschooling mom and wife. Its the most fullfilling things i have ever done. My husband works and i GET to cook for my family and spend time with them. I LOVE taking care of my house and make it beautiful. I ENJOY having a close family and jouful marriage. We arent as strict and interpret "obeying" differently. We make decisions together and have a shared bank account. But we have set tradtional roles that i very much enjoy! I love it much!

    • @akinolaomotola7019
      @akinolaomotola7019 29 днів тому

      Lovely!❤I believe having a good partner helps in one being a trad wife

  • @rovalq1
    @rovalq1 Місяць тому +1

    My parents have been married for 53 years. My mum quit working as soon as I was born one year after they got married and raised my brother and I while she could have done anything else she wanted. But truly run a household, even with a housekeeper, what she always had is tiring and busy to also be able to have some time for herself. She is 75 years old now and still up and down. Sometimes, she drives 300km just to check the country house stuff/employees by herself. Amazing to see them together. Dont have friends, go to the beach or the country every weekend, she is always with her lipstick on when he is about to arrive from work. Unfortunately, I haven't found a man like him. And as said a friend of mine, he is one in 5 million. 😢 she has her own money, not joint accounts! He pays her and he has no idea how she spends... Amazing!

  • @user-rp7tm1vx7e
    @user-rp7tm1vx7e Місяць тому +3

    I don't find that this has to do entirely with being a stay at home mom. Many people and as others commented on here, have that setup and are not having their husband choose their clothes, etc. He comes off as very dominant and i don't find it a normal family dynamics. The punishment seems excessive, i believe these kids will grow with a lot of personal issues. It is so sad to see the little girl like this.
    And, as we all know, our most personal relationships will have a great impact in our well being. I don't think that this is about a balanced partnership but more that he found someone who will blindly follow him.

  • @alinapopescu872
    @alinapopescu872 4 дні тому

    I'm 46, no family, no children, not much of a career. Live a happy life, ladies. Careers are not going to hold your hand, be supportive, keep you warm and make you smile.

  • @alma6768
    @alma6768 Місяць тому +5

    I smell a rat here - there's something creepy going on. I feel so sorry for those poor kids. Things are not always as they seem on the surface. This video is really haunting me... 😢

    • @adaml5851
      @adaml5851 14 днів тому

      The smell.. is probably your upper lip.

    • @alma6768
      @alma6768 14 днів тому

      @@adaml5851 Definition of 'to smell a rat'
      If you smell a rat, you begin to suspect or realize that something is wrong in a particular situation, for example that someone is trying to deceive you or harm you.

  • @luv4mybffl
    @luv4mybffl 2 місяці тому +4

    The wife’s face when Stacey asked about sex…something tells me she doesn’t have much agency over her body…

  • @captainhml3868
    @captainhml3868 4 місяці тому +13

    This lifestyle presupposes the husband makes enough for the family to live on one income.

  • @beabasson3132
    @beabasson3132 4 місяці тому +9

    Those kiddies!! Super adorable!!🥰

  • @AdrianneKiara
    @AdrianneKiara Місяць тому +4

    Lillian blink twice if you need out

  • @haveasitatmytablepodcast
    @haveasitatmytablepodcast 2 місяці тому +11

    All what i see here is a beautiful family. Lilian is living her fairytale and has every right to do so. As a 25years old woman who works, i do plan to be a traditional wife down the line once my husband is able to have the financial ability to carry the house. There are so many things i will love to do like sewing, gardening, etc which i can't do now because i am completely consumed with work and frankly i am getting exhausted with this current life. I will like to take a step back and just take care of my famile and enjoy life more.

  • @teresabarrett3266
    @teresabarrett3266 4 місяці тому +15

    Dear Stacey,
    I’ve just come onto your videos today. Excellent work. Thank you.
    Your commentary regarding the “feminine mystique”
    is clear. No doubt, this weekend assignment has challenged your personal opinions. i appreciate your willingness to go places that are so different than where you come from. True honest dialogue is an art form.
    You do it well.
    Dear one,
    i have so much to tell you.
    i see my younger self in you.
    i bought the life of feminism.
    i am twice your age.
    i’m the youngest sister to first wave feminists. my dreams were shaped by my older siblings. live free or die.
    as i aged, i became more out of synch with my peers. ie: (marriage & children.)
    i grieved for want to become a mother, for years.
    as time progresses it is clear to me that if I marry, most likely i’d be a second wife. Men my age either did not want children, or they already had children and didn’t want more. I missed the boat.
    at 39yrs old, I just decided to get pregnant. My clock was ticking so hard i knew i could no longer await the Fates.
    deep down I knew my window to have children was quickly drawing to a close.
    now, I am mother to one child. My son is grown into a fine 22yr old young man.
    it didn’t take long at all, as a single mother, to realize at the core of myself: I am a feminine traditionalist.
    i took parenting very seriously. what values did i want my son to guided by?
    what kind of man will hope him to become? Seriously.
    I wanted my son to have strong moral fiber. i wanted my son to be a leader, not a follower. i wanted my son to care about the underdog. These qualities of a manhood are distinctly found in Jesus Christ as it is written in
    The Bible.
    Motherhood has transformed my life and my perspective regarding feminism.
    Now,
    i only wish i had not been so rebellious and independent.
    if I could go back
    i would choose to be a traditional woman & wife.

  • @cristinatontini9816
    @cristinatontini9816 4 місяці тому +3

    Oh my. It's a very different situation for me. I couldn't stop working. Interesting.

  • @trinisweetie87
    @trinisweetie87 Місяць тому +3

    This is disturbing.....

  • @katiek1856
    @katiek1856 2 місяці тому +6

    Wow that woman at the wedding thinks boys are getting left behind. Clearly she does not understand why there is such a thing called a women’s rights movement.

  • @sawyer0815
    @sawyer0815 3 місяці тому +4

    Her husband is the dominant thing right there her ranting about feminism is ridiculous she needs to wake up

  • @musicftw711
    @musicftw711 2 місяці тому +2

    It’s scary that some women will give so much of their freedom away to the man they married. You can be a stay at home mom and still be an equal partner. I don’t get why they think they have to submit. Religion makes things scary sometimes.

  • @itsgoingtobeok-justbreathe4808
    @itsgoingtobeok-justbreathe4808 26 днів тому +4

    I see the manly-man made no move to help her down the steep steps with her suitcase.

  • @user-nu2vg5lw3o
    @user-nu2vg5lw3o 13 днів тому

    Im at stay at home mum and i am given an allowance that i can spend on myself. I am happy with this arrangement and i believe marriages would be stronger if they had these roles

  • @haveasitatmytablepodcast
    @haveasitatmytablepodcast 2 місяці тому +2

    A trad wife can do many things like start a youtube channel, get into writing, painting, sewing, gardening, pottery, cooking that can bring about fulfilment

  • @jillianlea9690
    @jillianlea9690 4 місяці тому +4

    I can't imagine wanting someone that doesn't give an opinion

  • @DraKBC
    @DraKBC 3 місяці тому +3

    God and family are so important and precious!

  • @sawyer0815
    @sawyer0815 3 місяці тому +5

    He doesn’t know the baby was born 3 or 4 months ago?

  • @sunflowermyeyes9758
    @sunflowermyeyes9758 2 місяці тому +5

    Oh. He gives me the ick. ‚Obedience….we carry a heavy book bag to remind ourselves what Jesus had to go through‘ 🫠 he’s a clear narcissist. Hope she’s not regretting it some day. She seems smart & really nice.
    33:40 I mean it’s also to make women more equal and to fight for woman rights, to have a female voices in powers. This is such a privileged look 😶‍🌫️ I’m sorry but that does sound brainwashed.
    He just absolutely loves to own her and to be the boss. Buy a dog then, dude. 35:37 those whole part….good god. I’m actually appalled, each to their own though I guess haha I hope she’s as happy as she claims 🥲

  • @acfatemi
    @acfatemi 3 місяці тому +3

    Minute 42:01 , obeying a man is what most women do (directly or inderectly) out in the workforce. When husband leaves in the morning, the wife is her own boss and director in creating the home & family life that is her masterpiece in the art of living

    • @dlalalabu5956
      @dlalalabu5956 26 днів тому

      No not really. Youre not obeying a man youre obeying your boss and they pay you. In the world order you mention gender is everything however when it comes to your boss it means nothing. You have a male boss you have a female boss and both of them would fire you if you dont do your job right lmao

  • @Katherannereese
    @Katherannereese 4 місяці тому +15

    Groping is not flirting or romance... Ew.

  • @sawyer0815
    @sawyer0815 3 місяці тому +8

    Omg tumble dryer as a gift

  • @kraee4652
    @kraee4652 2 місяці тому +2

    This family is an extreme. I agree with the principle of roles in the home, but there is a balance, as with everything in life. As a woman/wife/mother, there is nothing that gives me more satisfaction in life than doing those “traditional” things. In my life, I chose a very honorable man as my husband and I trust him completely to make decisions for our family, but he also converses with me and asks what I think before a decision is made. Ultimately I trust that he has our family’s best interest at heart. He likes to cook and is good at it and I hate it so he does the cooking. I love to build and create things, do yard work and be outside and he doesn’t enjoy those things so I do them. Ultimately, I hate the fact that we can’t survive on one income so I have to work and can’t do the things that I feel like I was created to do that brings me the most joy, being a mother, wife, and homemaker. Those things are empowering to me. It shouldn’t be seen as being weak (when in a healthy household).

    • @naty1012
      @naty1012 Місяць тому

      I feel the same way and my husband would rather me work seeing that it is more secure for the interest of us and our future children ( we don't have yet) but I much rather this "trad" lifestyle for religious and personal reasons.

  • @danaomoush8996
    @danaomoush8996 3 місяці тому +6

    Why do they keep speaking in metaphors

  • @Mika-pd9jw
    @Mika-pd9jw Місяць тому +1

    I like this family and fully agree with them 👍👏🏻

  • @crystalw8050
    @crystalw8050 2 місяці тому +2

    He said all the quiet parts out loud..

  • @grumpyschnauzer
    @grumpyschnauzer 4 місяці тому +10

    I think what has made her situation better is the type of man she chose. If a woman puts herself in that vulnerable position but chose an abusive or undermining/controlling disrespectful man or an irresponsible man, that would be a very scary situation for the woman and women aren’t psychics… they can’t tell if they are choosing wrong. What I don’t understand is that she is so intelligent and educated because of her opportunity to go to school and she is depriving that from her children. Become a school teacher and help many students grow.
    My father once got a vaccum for my mother at Christmas… she was furious and felt so unseen and ignored for her desires. My mother would have been considered a Tradwife back then but then my father became irresponsible, reckless and had a mental breakdown into a mental health crisis and my mom was single with 3 girls struggling to keep us afloat. She then met a man who tried to do the gender role thing but he was very verbally abusive so my mom kept her job and clung to saving her own money. Now that he has cancer and might not be around, my mom has built her nest egg for when she is continuing life alone.

    • @akinolaomotola7019
      @akinolaomotola7019 29 днів тому

      Hmm thisss. I strongly believe the woman has to be very careful in choosing cause it can be bad if they end up with a wrong partner

    • @akinolaomotola7019
      @akinolaomotola7019 29 днів тому

      And then saving of money,if they end up with a waster.

    • @TiffanyAllen1784
      @TiffanyAllen1784 День тому

      You don’t think making small children carry around rocks as a punishment is abusive?

  • @amyniemann9564
    @amyniemann9564 3 місяці тому +3

    I love being a traditional wife.

  • @yo-hs8ll
    @yo-hs8ll 4 місяці тому +11

    Lilian is such a nice woman. Her smile makes family happy.

  • @katymerk1750
    @katymerk1750 14 днів тому

    I had to stop watching this episode. That sweet little girl describing a "Rock March" absolutely broke my heart. I wanted to squeeze her through the screen and tell her that hugs and acts of kindness are the best way to remember Jesus's love, not carrying rocks! I hope the parents rethink this punitive practice. It seems wildly out of proportion to anything those young, innocent children could need.

  • @Kitkat-wu3ow
    @Kitkat-wu3ow 4 місяці тому +11

    Its interesting. They isolated themselves from the community.

    • @acfatemi
      @acfatemi 3 місяці тому +1

      And yet they seem to have a sizeable social circle! I think many families where both parents are working are far more isolated bc there is simply not enough time & energy to entertain or take part in activities outside work and home

  • @brennapetersen8522
    @brennapetersen8522 28 днів тому +2

    Uh, those poor kids...

  • @heidiquayle5054
    @heidiquayle5054 11 днів тому

    I know people who chose this path - before children and they were women who felt joy in creating a sanctuary for their family. I loved being a mom but love actually being a partner with my husband so this wouldn't work for me. I think if a woman makes that choice it's her choice, good for her.

  • @Justmeforwhatitisworth
    @Justmeforwhatitisworth 6 днів тому +1

    This man is a psychopath. I am scared for his children.

  • @laffingdukk
    @laffingdukk 6 днів тому +1

    the wife's smile does not seem real. Can't put my finger on it but i feel it. That being said, there's a lot of worse ways to raise a family, so if this works for them--more power to them.

  • @an67481
    @an67481 2 місяці тому +1

    I was one of the best students in my country up till age 26... However I think that the workplace and 9 to 5 is depressive and sick. With all that I know about health, ecology, psychology, philosophy and theology... I want to be a healthy, balanced and nurturing Trad Wife to my man and my children.

  • @sawyer0815
    @sawyer0815 3 місяці тому +1

    Hold on when was this filmed? Stacey has a husband and kid right?

  • @sawyer0815
    @sawyer0815 3 місяці тому +3

    Oh god she s lost it. Did she ever go to therapy and figure out her issues?

  • @sawyer0815
    @sawyer0815 3 місяці тому +11

    Groping?!!!!?!??!? He’s an animal and needs to grow up

  • @CuriousLindZ
    @CuriousLindZ 4 місяці тому +3

    The fact that these women have such a need to put a lable and rules to all this instead of just saying me n my husband how the system n work 2g. That's what works for us and our family n they need to name it apply all these rules n add the shock value to it all goes to show her uncomfortable they are with it subconsciously with in them selves. Just play do whatever your best skills are?
    Also who the fffff can afford 2 live on a one person income w 3 kids lol

  • @dlalalabu5956
    @dlalalabu5956 26 днів тому

    I think this phenomenon happens in women who got their masters to make their parents proud instead of being cunning on the matter and loving it

  • @janellemargot4376
    @janellemargot4376 Місяць тому +2

    Oof that was hard to watch

  • @kelleymayo8149
    @kelleymayo8149 27 днів тому

    If being a housewife was affordable I would love to be a stay home mom. I’m a 32 year old college student. I don’t work because I’m focusing on school.

  • @LauraBCBF
    @LauraBCBF Місяць тому +1

    Gasping the hole episode 😮

  • @circesercy2190
    @circesercy2190 4 місяці тому +4

    Im getting "Father's knows Best" vibes and some definite "Madmen" behind close doors 😂🎉 but if they're equally happy and truly in love with each other , and raise healthy grounded balanced children (minimal trauma) then celebrate them!

  • @carrielopez1728
    @carrielopez1728 4 місяці тому +7

    I would have loved to be a stay at home mother but I have 4 kids and could only provide with both of us working. Luckily I am a nurse so worked night shift when the kids were little and I didn't have to put them in daycare. But it was exhausting. I'd come home on Monday morning and hubs would leave for work and I'd have to stay awake for greater than 24 hours. The feminist movement created an environment where women are now having to work even if they'd prefer not to when their kids are little.

    • @acfatemi
      @acfatemi 3 місяці тому +6

      There is actually economics research that indicates that double income hasn’t raised the living standard at all. It has only raised cost of housing as the extra income boosted prices on the real estate market. I am a female economist and I am starting to question if women have been fooled in order for big business to make more profits 🤔

    • @dlalalabu5956
      @dlalalabu5956 26 днів тому

      Its not the feminist movement its the politicians who licks companys' ass made this environment and put the economy in this situation. Without feminism, you wouldnt even know how to write because you couldnt go to school babes

    • @TiffanyAllen1784
      @TiffanyAllen1784 День тому

      @@acfatemiWomen don’t generally go around saying “I am a female.” Sure you are. 🙄

  • @sanchiyadav5420
    @sanchiyadav5420 2 місяці тому +1

    I dont think there is anything wrong with being a housewife it is not meant for all, of course, but feminism is about choice, so it's not wrong. I think as partners as you need to spilt duties , if husband is working then the women takes care of the house and vise versa and if wife n husband both are working spilled house and family duties. So i think its functional for them , they seem harmless ,amazing, and a functional family. What is concerning to me is being reliable on the husband or submitting to the husband or wife financially , emotionally, in cognitive aspects , in decision-making and so on it will make you infreior and vulnerable, so thats something about trad wife trend which i find too alarming and concerning , as it makes you helplessly dependent, there are so many things that can go wrong from a psychological standpoint from both parties involved, everyone must be independent regardless of the gender, there are so many things that are wrong with this movement but submitting to someone is absurd for mental , emotional , financial and social aspects . I think that it is very crucial for anyone man or women to be independent. Marrage, is a partnership, not a boss and employee relationship.

  • @jcravenclaw
    @jcravenclaw 10 днів тому

    My biggest nightmare

  • @sawyer0815
    @sawyer0815 3 місяці тому +3

    Build in his dna 🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @laurabradley1992
    @laurabradley1992 3 місяці тому +1

    Different strokes for different folks.

  • @laffingdukk
    @laffingdukk 6 днів тому

    i certainly wouldn't mind being a stay at home wife and mom. but the obedience part is weird. should be equality but just different domains of responsibility

  • @balance3201
    @balance3201 3 місяці тому +3

    Nothing special most of the world s wives are traditional

  • @youtubefaves6365
    @youtubefaves6365 3 місяці тому +2

    I think that the wife in this documentary is way more intelligent than the husband (2 master’s degrees!) & I get the impression that for her it’s a kind of experiment and she’ll see how long it lasts. I think the husband takes it much more seriously; it suits him just fine, and it’s also advantageous. Unlike the wife, he comes from a Christian culture & he continues the Catholicism he grew up with in South America (and then some… the children having to carry a brick or books on their back if they had misbehaved during the week…doesn’t sound like healthy discipline). Seems like it’s the wife needs to play the whore/mother role in this situation if he needs to grope her (as he says) when he comes home. There has to be a balance between the 1950’s marriage model and this strange 21st century reenactment.
    I think they would do well to look at a marriage like that of Winston Churchill and his wife Clementine; both strong characters whose marriage lasted almost 60 years & she never shied from offering him advice; in fact he sought her advice & she could be tough with him. The trad wife movement is creepy in that it promotes an unreal (almost doll like) image of a woman.

    • @miramataija1628
      @miramataija1628 Місяць тому

      Having two degrees isn't only proof of her intelligence, it could also indicate that she is a A type of personality who always want to become the best in everything she does. Now she wants to be the perfect wife. Before she was the perfect student.

  • @jolandevanderhoeks7970
    @jolandevanderhoeks7970 3 місяці тому +2

    When we got married, I did not want the word "obey" in our vows. Now that I have a better understanding of our roles according to the Bible, I am happy to obey. Still a working mom though ❤

  • @skoldpaddaa
    @skoldpaddaa 2 місяці тому

    If the husband is not physically or verbally abusive i dont see anything wrong but it sounds little cave ages.. from the other side well they are together 10 years it shows something

  • @sarangasmaa9528
    @sarangasmaa9528 3 місяці тому +7

    I think we must separate being a housewife and being a trad wife .... I come from a culture where the mom is more encouraged to be a housewife especially if the father is capable of providing a very stable life style... so my mom grandma and some of my aunts are housewives but its nothing like what its portrayed in this episode .... there is no such thing as servitude and absolute obedience and whatever..... housewife means both the wife and husband stand on equal footing but taking care of different sides of the marriage but doesn't hurt if the father still helps and involves himself in the day to day life of the household and it doesn't mean that the wife should always behave a certain way and doll herself up etc.....

  • @annjanovsky8054
    @annjanovsky8054 2 місяці тому +6

    Red flag when the husband says quote:can't wait for Stacey to leave so they can get back to 'normal ' hmmmmm🤔

  • @colleenroyle588
    @colleenroyle588 2 місяці тому +1

    Is this woman for real?🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

  • @isaacengineer2280
    @isaacengineer2280 4 місяці тому +10

    This is fantastic. Muscularity and femineity at its finest. They both play a vital role in caring for each other and taking care of their kids and building strong values to the kids. Less TV for the kids and focus on been more present at home. Marriage is not about happiness but rather love for duty, labor, commitment, and sacrifices to care for each other by playing each others roles despite each others flaws. All these things creates a happy environment for both husband, wife and kids to be happy.

  • @lucap3667
    @lucap3667 2 місяці тому

    I dont share this trad family movement, but everyone in the comments making inferences and not listening to her. This doesn’t look so progressive. People seems to can’t accept Lillian making her own decisions freely and happily.

  • @lauchzwiebel
    @lauchzwiebel 29 днів тому +1

    She has no idea what feminism is. She can be that bolt on social media because of feminism and not because of her husband and those men who agree with him. They did not fight for women’s rights or did they

  • @BabatukE
    @BabatukE 4 місяці тому +12

    The guy seems to think hes a second after god. Wife has many opions and allowed to express them but he decides everything in the end. So basically she doesnt have a voice after all? His little boss game is gonna end when the kids grow up and refuse to listen to his crap anymore 😂 Altho as they are homechooled they dont really now how normal world works. 😢

    • @isaacengineer2280
      @isaacengineer2280 4 місяці тому +2

      Yes she will have opinion about things and suggestions on what should be done, but ultimately one person has to be the final decision maker after considering all inputs from both of them by taking pieces of each and coming up with a great final decision to implement. Every nation, organization, Team, school, workplace, military has a President/Captain , Vice President and that is how things gets done. Some has to lead and someone has to follow.

    • @Chefgrlangel
      @Chefgrlangel 4 місяці тому +2

      @@isaacengineer2280well said