On the "can't mute audio tracks" thing ... you could always set up a Clip program, then just assign your audio sample to a pad. That's mutable, and playable. As in, you could have versions of that audio file loaded into different pads of your Clip program. Then just assign them all to the same choke or mute group.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the way clip programs currently work on the MPC, hopefully they move more towards how the Force handles clips. Or even just bring over the mixer so you have audio/midi tracks in the same view and can mute them using track mute without switching between the two.
Dope tip. I didn’t realize that events of the audio tracks could be edited between sequences. I always thought 1 audio track laid across all the sequences. This will really help my recording work flow.
YOU SAVED MY NERVOUS SYSTEM, I WAS MAD ALREADY WITH MUTE BUTTON FOR SEQ1 AND SEQ2 FOR MY BASS LINE AUDIO TRACKS :)))) THANKS AGAIN, IT WORKS, BEST TUTORIAL EVER!!!
This is exactly what I needed... I exported an old project from my MPC Studio as audio files and was trying to arrange in the new software. You're the man
The fact that the audio tracks aren’t connected to the sequences is absolutely maddening. It’s not an audio track if it’s a collection of events, it’s BS. Your workaround makes sense, but here’s where I trade this POS in for an octatrack.
They are tied to the sequence, but the implementation is weird in terms of mutes, etc. I wish they were accessible in the same page as regular track mutes.
Dope workflow. Thanks for sharing and I enjoy viewing your videos. Always great quality and very informative. I found you can also mute those regions too as well as erase.
Yep, if you click the speaker with the line through it, you can simply mute the regions as well. I like to erase because it just looks cleaner lol. But if you want to stay flexible you can just mute them also. All about preference really.
Thank you so much this helps a lot I had to bounce my midi to audio and I wanted to arrange it on the MPC it sucks that I have to do it this way. But thanks for breaking it down in a simple way.
Awesome work around. Thanks!! Have recently been bouncing vst sounds to audio tracks and chopping them up and putting them in drum programs. Look forward to giving this a shot!
Great video! Informative! It actually makes sense for it to work this way. If you mute a track/channel in Ableton any sequence or clip on it will be silent.
Thanks for watching! Yeah, it's just a different paradigm for the MPC, but it does make sense. MPC was always known for how it handled mutes/solos per sequence, but with the audio tracks it's a bit more traditional. This makes it still flexible within the MPC workflow.
Thanks for posting this. I'd found this frustrating on the One - I'm using it for DAW-free audio and this ability is fundamental for me. I'm guessing that having deleted that track I can record new parts there. I'm off to try that now. [Now I'm back and it works! Thanks for helping me understand what's going on and what I need to do 👍👍👍]
Hey, nice video but you dont have to erase the sample to just mute it. Underneath the 'browse samples' button in the audio edit screen, there is a mute button. Just select the audiopart and mute it, so you can use it in later editing.
It does it whenever it feels like it cause on one song from one sequence to the next is fully separate but the next song does exactly what your saying.
Audio Tracks have still got me very confused in certain ways. Are Audio Track settings project-wide? Seems weird that the actual Audio Tracks loop follow the sequence length, yet you can have different Audio Tracks in different sequences. It seems like in Track View, the Level, Pan, etc, settings for Audio Tracks stay the same no matter what sequence you are in…the only way I could see getting around this would be to have Audio Tracks on a different Program, but I’m pretty sure Audio Tracks don’t reside in Programs at all, only midi/drum tracks do. Long time MPC user and I think AudioTracks have a lot of potential but I’m still confused
Yeah, there are 8 tracks for the whole project. Inside of those tracks are your audio events. So track 4 will always be track 4, no matter which sequence you're in. If you want to mute it for individual sequences for example, it has to be the audio clip itself that you mute. You could also have an entirely different audio recording in track 4 in a different sequence. So you can technically use different sequences to give yourself different audio recordings, you'd just have to manipulate the 8 tracks or "audio lanes" to do so. Not as fluid as the Force which has 8 tracks but each has multiple clips that are quickly accessible.
@@SoundsAndGear I feel as if Audio Tracks are incredibly flawed. At least I can use Automation to change track level, send, return values, but otherwise it seems very restricting and just not very usable. I can see myself using it for guitar/vocals and stuff, but you can always still use the Sampler for that. Idk, I would actually LOVE to use AT's for some very specific reasons but it's not feasible at the moment.
My main question for the line of mpc's including the live or the mpc one especially, because that's the one I'm most interested in, is can I beatbox 8 individual tracks right into the system itself, and then sequence those tracks where I want them to be in the song. I heard you say that you can't mute the audio tracks live while playing, so does that mean you would have to go into each sequence individually and take out the audio tracks where you don't want them to play? I don't know if anyone on here has heard of the roland rc505 looper, but I'm trying to do something similar to what that can do, and instead of having the 5 audio tracks on the rc505 looper, the akai gives you 8, am I right? Now...would I have to sample the audio, beatboxed tracks into the live or the mpc one, or do you just go with the metronome and record it with the beat as close as you can? I'm just trying to beatbox my audio tracks, put some strings or bells in my song, with the vocals (or are vocals an audio track too?). This can all be done with the live or the mpc one right? If anyone on here kind of multi track records, please drop me some knowledge on this? Thanks
You can mute them love they just show on a different place than the midi tracks. But it doesn’t work exactly like the Roland. You can record 8 audio tracks, you also can record audio in the sampler or use the looper and then assign them to pads.
@@SoundsAndGear So I could achieve the same thing on an akai one as the rc505? The only difference is that it has 8 audio tracks instead of 5, but the roland rc505 is much quicker and faster to loop what you are playing? Have any of you tried the mpc one yet? I am really digging this one now instead of the live, but the live has so much more sounds and capabilities. I'm just trying to figure out if I can beatbox my sound into the akai one and be able to put it on seperate pads like the rc505 or a multi track recorder, and be able to do everything on there, you know, get a little pre amp to record straight into the mpc one, etc...Is it possible to do all of that with an mpc one? I know the live can do almost, if not everything. I heard the mpc one is the same exact thing, besides storage and the amount of sounds and inputs/outputs? Is that true y'all? Thanks
@@natanunorthodox Yeah, you can technically do what you want. I use my MPC to record audio tracks all the time. They will be whatever length you set your sequence to. So if you set the sequence to 4 bars, your audio tracks will be 4 bars, 8 bars then they will be 8 bars. The difference is you don't have a dedicated "button" for each loop where you can set start the recording and stop it. The MPC operates more like a multi track recorder. Though, with the looper, you can get a similar feel, you'd just have to export/assign the loops to a pad after the fact. The One is nice, you can't add a hard drive but it still takes sd cards and usb drives. It has less outputs which may or may not be an issue. It can use the same expansions/libraries (from Akai site) as well as load any wav/audio files. If you don't need a battery it could be what you want.
I'm not sure what you mean. You can add multiple samples to drum programs (you have 8 banks of pads) or you can create multi sample instruments. This video is specific to audio tracks which is separate from sample based programs. These are more for linear loop phrases.
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@@SoundsAndGear are you familiar with the bomb squad production? If so i am about using 10 samples on ome song is that possible to do with the MPC
You can use as many samples as you want, just depends on their length and how much memory you use. You can definitely use 10 samples. Not 10 full songs, but 10 different samples, chops, riffs, etc would be no problem. How you use samples is different than what I am showing here, this is specifically about linear audio tracks.
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@@SoundsAndGear say if i want to use two different drum loops is it better to use them in3 or 4 regions/zones?
No not currently, in "track view" you can see all tracks but not the actual data of all of the tracks, just the controls. There isn't currently a page with all of your track waveforms.
This should come in a new update so you can edit vocals like protools in a standalone way... I know it’s more for making beats but it would be great!!!!
I understand this process, but it removes the real time mixing aspect if mutes would just mute the audio, like on a mixing board. You have to make all your decisions up front instead of spontaneous mixing. What’s kept me from getting the X is that I want 16 loops on the 16 pads and being able to start and stop the loops by pressing the corresponding pad. I STILL don’t understand, how almost two years later you can’t do this on a $2200 sampling machine! Lol. Come on Akai! I don’t want Push2, but my patience is thinning. 😄
Word, you can still do it in realtime, this is just for those that are used to having different sequences with mutes in them. The MPC still records your track mutes and will play them back. I agree on clips though, I thought they would work like Ableton Live on the 16 pads and was super excited about it but for now I just use Audio Tracks mainly. If they improve how clips work it can really take things to the next level. Just let us trigger clips on the pads and capture that as a performance to be edited if we wish.
SoundsAndGear That’s it, you nailed it, if we could record audio loops to the pads and trigger and mute them and record that performance the X would be my centerpiece. I’m an audio guy too looking for quick capture audio clips with independent channels. I can’t think of any system other than Push2 and Abelton that can do this, but I could be wrong. Maybe Cubase and a midi controller?
SoundsAndGear What’s up St. Joe!? I’m enjoying your channel man, we’ve got the same work flow. I just saw your video on the Maschine MK3 with that looping audio workflow, looks just what I’m after, plus it looks like you can start and stop the loops with the pads. I’m getting over my mandatory standalone idea and think I’ll give the MK3 a shot. It looks like a nice blend of the MPC and Abelton type of functionality. The Abelton software just isn’t pleasant to look at, I couldn’t look at that everyday. Think I’ll work in the MK3 with my Cubase setup and have what I need. Also, I find the MK3 to have a nice look to it, kinda streamlined and just enough. Thanks for your UA-cam presence sir. 👍
Yeah man, Machine's audioloop functionality is something I'd been requesting for many years, glad to see it in there. It works pretty smooth too. You mute the loops using the mute mode just like any other pad. Pretty straight forward.
Mpc sucks in terms of song arrangement capabilities. You have to copy things/sequences over and over. It's hard to adjust drum patterns later as once copied it's separate instance. There is no way of layering sequences so you can have for instance few drum sequences which you can arrange with other instruments without constantly copying. Whole workflow sucks and it seems to be good only for loops. Obviously you can do pretty much everything but it takes to much time. Instead focusing on composing you start to waste your time with simpel arrangement issues.
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I wish mpc had a viewable audio multitrack mode ! I’m sure many would love that feature !
I hear ya!
On the "can't mute audio tracks" thing ... you could always set up a Clip program, then just assign your audio sample to a pad. That's mutable, and playable. As in, you could have versions of that audio file loaded into different pads of your Clip program. Then just assign them all to the same choke or mute group.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the way clip programs currently work on the MPC, hopefully they move more towards how the Force handles clips. Or even just bring over the mixer so you have audio/midi tracks in the same view and can mute them using track mute without switching between the two.
Dope tip. I didn’t realize that events of the audio tracks could be edited between sequences. I always thought 1 audio track laid across all the sequences. This will really help my recording work flow.
Yeah, it's super helpful. Just a little different but once you know...super smooth.
That’s a good way to think about it
YOU SAVED MY NERVOUS SYSTEM, I WAS MAD ALREADY WITH MUTE BUTTON FOR SEQ1 AND SEQ2 FOR MY BASS LINE AUDIO TRACKS :)))) THANKS AGAIN, IT WORKS, BEST TUTORIAL EVER!!!
Glad to help
This is exactly what I needed... I exported an old project from my MPC Studio as audio files and was trying to arrange in the new software.
You're the man
Glad to help!
I suspected I had to do that. Thank you for the vid. 5 min later on UA-cam yep 👍! Saves the life of a subtractive editor!
Thanks for watching!
The fact that the audio tracks aren’t connected to the sequences is absolutely maddening. It’s not an audio track if it’s a collection of events, it’s BS. Your workaround makes sense, but here’s where I trade this POS in for an octatrack.
They are tied to the sequence, but the implementation is weird in terms of mutes, etc. I wish they were accessible in the same page as regular track mutes.
Yeah there is a UA-cam video talking about the audio track mutes. Definitely a nice work solution.
Cool, thanks for watching!
You've just made my MPC day a whole lot better. Thank you so much. Only had my MPC for a few days, getting on ok but could not work that out!
Glad I could help!
Just ran into this problem tonight, big thanks bro👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
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The solution was so simple. Thanks for the workaround bro!
Glad it helped!
Dope workflow. Thanks for sharing and I enjoy viewing your videos. Always great quality and very informative. I found you can also mute those regions too as well as erase.
Yep, if you click the speaker with the line through it, you can simply mute the regions as well. I like to erase because it just looks cleaner lol. But if you want to stay flexible you can just mute them also. All about preference really.
Thank you so much this helps a lot I had to bounce my midi to audio and I wanted to arrange it on the MPC it sucks that I have to do it this way. But thanks for breaking it down in a simple way.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome work around. Thanks!! Have recently been bouncing vst sounds to audio tracks and chopping them up and putting them in drum programs. Look forward to giving this a shot!
YESSSS this was a game changer!!!
Thanks for watching!
Haha I'm back man after the new usb interface update. Thanks again 🤣🤣
Thank you so much! Excactly what I was searching for the last couple of days
Glad to help!
Great video! Informative! It actually makes sense for it to work this way. If you mute a track/channel in Ableton any sequence or clip on it will be silent.
Thanks for watching! Yeah, it's just a different paradigm for the MPC, but it does make sense. MPC was always known for how it handled mutes/solos per sequence, but with the audio tracks it's a bit more traditional. This makes it still flexible within the MPC workflow.
thanks man had this exactly this problem yesterday, helped me a lot!
Glad to help!
Dope. Glad you kept the Mpc X 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for watching, I'm glad too LOL
Thanks Joe, I've gotten mad irritated that audio track mutes aren't sequence-dependent but this should help!
No doubt!
Thanks for posting this. I'd found this frustrating on the One - I'm using it for DAW-free audio and this ability is fundamental for me. I'm guessing that having deleted that track I can record new parts there. I'm off to try that now. [Now I'm back and it works! Thanks for helping me understand what's going on and what I need to do 👍👍👍]
Glad it helped!
Hey, nice video but you dont have to erase the sample to just mute it. Underneath the 'browse samples' button in the audio edit screen, there is a mute button. Just select the audiopart and mute it, so you can use it in later editing.
Yep, I mentioned that below. I prefer erasing in this way as it is cleaner for me to look at lol.
Thanks for explaining this was driving me crazy
Glad to help!
So simple... brilliant! Thank you so much man, helps a lot! :)
Glad to help!
great answer to my wrestling with muting audio tracks ! thanks for the help just trash em from a sequence copy . works for me
Glad to help!
Thank you for this. This will allow me to make much better use of audio tracks. You can only have 8 per project, right?
Yep, only 8 per project. Thanks for watching!
Extremely helpful! Thank you for the tip.
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So helpful!! Thanks 🙏🏾
Glad to help!
THANK YOU FOR THIS 🙏🏻
Thanks for watching
Thanks for that tip my guy
This was extremely helpful, I kept deleting my audio track and it would delete it from all my sequences. Rip
Glad to hlep! You can also mute the event it if you wish.
U can Also USE the erase button also
Yes indeed! Thanks for watching.
People NEED to know this....I have heard of people returning the MPC because they did not understand this.....Come on AKAI!!!
Thanks for watching! This is just one way to do it, but I like this way.
Thanks! Life saving
Thanks for watching!
Very helpful thank you
Glad to help
Nice work around 👍
Thanks for watching!
Thank you man 🙏😊
Thanks for watching!
It does it whenever it feels like it cause on one song from one sequence to the next is fully separate but the next song does exactly what your saying.
Thanks for watching.
I have the mpc live 2 can you pull up individual sounds to record to protools like the old mpc 2000 when you get the 8 outputs?
You'd need to use multiple outputs, or plug a mixer/interface up to it to get multiple outs.
Life Saver
Thanks for watching
Audio Tracks have still got me very confused in certain ways. Are Audio Track settings project-wide? Seems weird that the actual Audio Tracks loop follow the sequence length, yet you can have different Audio Tracks in different sequences. It seems like in Track View, the Level, Pan, etc, settings for Audio Tracks stay the same no matter what sequence you are in…the only way I could see getting around this would be to have Audio Tracks on a different Program, but I’m pretty sure Audio Tracks don’t reside in Programs at all, only midi/drum tracks do. Long time MPC user and I think AudioTracks have a lot of potential but I’m still confused
Yeah, there are 8 tracks for the whole project. Inside of those tracks are your audio events. So track 4 will always be track 4, no matter which sequence you're in. If you want to mute it for individual sequences for example, it has to be the audio clip itself that you mute. You could also have an entirely different audio recording in track 4 in a different sequence. So you can technically use different sequences to give yourself different audio recordings, you'd just have to manipulate the 8 tracks or "audio lanes" to do so. Not as fluid as the Force which has 8 tracks but each has multiple clips that are quickly accessible.
@@SoundsAndGear I feel as if Audio Tracks are incredibly flawed. At least I can use Automation to change track level, send, return values, but otherwise it seems very restricting and just not very usable. I can see myself using it for guitar/vocals and stuff, but you can always still use the Sampler for that. Idk, I would actually LOVE to use AT's for some very specific reasons but it's not feasible at the moment.
Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
My main question for the line of mpc's including the live or the mpc one especially, because that's the one I'm most interested in, is can I beatbox 8 individual tracks right into the system itself, and then sequence those tracks where I want them to be in the song. I heard you say that you can't mute the audio tracks live while playing, so does that mean you would have to go into each sequence individually and take out the audio tracks where you don't want them to play? I don't know if anyone on here has heard of the roland rc505 looper, but I'm trying to do something similar to what that can do, and instead of having the 5 audio tracks on the rc505 looper, the akai gives you 8, am I right? Now...would I have to sample the audio, beatboxed tracks into the live or the mpc one, or do you just go with the metronome and record it with the beat as close as you can? I'm just trying to beatbox my audio tracks, put some strings or bells in my song, with the vocals (or are vocals an audio track too?). This can all be done with the live or the mpc one right? If anyone on here kind of multi track records, please drop me some knowledge on this? Thanks
You can mute them love they just show on a different place than the midi tracks. But it doesn’t work exactly like the Roland. You can record 8 audio tracks, you also can record audio in the sampler or use the looper and then assign them to pads.
@@SoundsAndGear So I could achieve the same thing on an akai one as the rc505? The only difference is that it has 8 audio tracks instead of 5, but the roland rc505 is much quicker and faster to loop what you are playing? Have any of you tried the mpc one yet? I am really digging this one now instead of the live, but the live has so much more sounds and capabilities. I'm just trying to figure out if I can beatbox my sound into the akai one and be able to put it on seperate pads like the rc505 or a multi track recorder, and be able to do everything on there, you know, get a little pre amp to record straight into the mpc one, etc...Is it possible to do all of that with an mpc one? I know the live can do almost, if not everything. I heard the mpc one is the same exact thing, besides storage and the amount of sounds and inputs/outputs? Is that true y'all? Thanks
@@natanunorthodox Yeah, you can technically do what you want. I use my MPC to record audio tracks all the time. They will be whatever length you set your sequence to. So if you set the sequence to 4 bars, your audio tracks will be 4 bars, 8 bars then they will be 8 bars. The difference is you don't have a dedicated "button" for each loop where you can set start the recording and stop it. The MPC operates more like a multi track recorder. Though, with the looper, you can get a similar feel, you'd just have to export/assign the loops to a pad after the fact. The One is nice, you can't add a hard drive but it still takes sd cards and usb drives. It has less outputs which may or may not be an issue. It can use the same expansions/libraries (from Akai site) as well as load any wav/audio files. If you don't need a battery it could be what you want.
@@SoundsAndGear Thanks for replying. I appreciate it.
@@natanunorthodox no problem!
Nice!
Thanks for watching
man, how you think - can it's fully replace FL Studio?
Not sure, I'm not an FL guy, I would imagine it depends on how you work and what all you want to do.
Thanks just ran up against this trying to make my sequence into a song.
Glad to help
Is it possible to make the multi layer sampling back in the golden era with the MPC 5000 and newer models with 20 samples in one song (track)?
I'm not sure what you mean. You can add multiple samples to drum programs (you have 8 banks of pads) or you can create multi sample instruments. This video is specific to audio tracks which is separate from sample based programs. These are more for linear loop phrases.
@@SoundsAndGear are you familiar with the bomb squad production? If so i am about using 10 samples on ome song is that possible to do with the MPC
You can use as many samples as you want, just depends on their length and how much memory you use. You can definitely use 10 samples. Not 10 full songs, but 10 different samples, chops, riffs, etc would be no problem. How you use samples is different than what I am showing here, this is specifically about linear audio tracks.
@@SoundsAndGear say if i want to use two different drum loops is it better to use them in3 or 4 regions/zones?
@ You would just load them onto separate pads, no need for zones or regions or anything like that.
can you see all your audio tracks on one screen?
No not currently, in "track view" you can see all tracks but not the actual data of all of the tracks, just the controls. There isn't currently a page with all of your track waveforms.
This should come in a new update so you can edit vocals like protools in a standalone way... I know it’s more for making beats but it would be great!!!!
@@mikemoprobeats164 Yeah it would be great to see it all on there. You can edit your audio tracks, just not all together on the same page.
I understand this process, but it removes the real time mixing aspect if mutes would just mute the audio, like on a mixing board. You have to make all your decisions up front instead of spontaneous mixing. What’s kept me from getting the X is that I want 16 loops on the 16 pads and being able to start and stop the loops by pressing the corresponding pad. I STILL don’t understand, how almost two years later you can’t do this on a $2200 sampling machine! Lol. Come on Akai! I don’t want Push2, but my patience is thinning. 😄
Word, you can still do it in realtime, this is just for those that are used to having different sequences with mutes in them. The MPC still records your track mutes and will play them back. I agree on clips though, I thought they would work like Ableton Live on the 16 pads and was super excited about it but for now I just use Audio Tracks mainly. If they improve how clips work it can really take things to the next level. Just let us trigger clips on the pads and capture that as a performance to be edited if we wish.
SoundsAndGear That’s it, you nailed it, if we could record audio loops to the pads and trigger and mute them and record that performance the X would be my centerpiece. I’m an audio guy too looking for quick capture audio clips with independent channels. I can’t think of any system other than Push2 and Abelton that can do this, but I could be wrong. Maybe Cubase and a midi controller?
Agree man, hopefully they improve this function.
SoundsAndGear What’s up St. Joe!? I’m enjoying your channel man, we’ve got the same work flow. I just saw your video on the Maschine MK3 with that looping audio workflow, looks just what I’m after, plus it looks like you can start and stop the loops with the pads. I’m getting over my mandatory standalone idea and think I’ll give the MK3 a shot. It looks like a nice blend of the MPC and Abelton type of functionality. The Abelton software just isn’t pleasant to look at, I couldn’t look at that everyday. Think I’ll work in the MK3 with my Cubase setup and have what I need. Also, I find the MK3 to have a nice look to it, kinda streamlined and just enough.
Thanks for your UA-cam presence sir. 👍
Yeah man, Machine's audioloop functionality is something I'd been requesting for many years, glad to see it in there. It works pretty smooth too. You mute the loops using the mute mode just like any other pad. Pretty straight forward.
Man I really wish Akai added track mute with audio tracks
Agreed, that's why I love the Force.
Mpc sucks in terms of song arrangement capabilities. You have to copy things/sequences over and over. It's hard to adjust drum patterns later as once copied it's separate instance. There is no way of layering sequences so you can have for instance few drum sequences which you can arrange with other instruments without constantly copying. Whole workflow sucks and it seems to be good only for loops. Obviously you can do pretty much everything but it takes to much time. Instead focusing on composing you start to waste your time with simpel arrangement issues.
Yes, MPC is a loop based sequencer, that's the point.
THANKS MAN IT HELPS A LOT
Glad to help