Emps: Noooo, I don’t wanna be a God! 😭 Sigmar: Ah sweet I’m a God! Alright boys, here’s my blessings to cave in some Chaos Fuckwits head with a big hammer 🔨
Someone did a video of Slannesh vs Lolth from d&d it was funny to see them complain that Lolth won but if you read into her lore she is HORRIFYING with how many gods/goddesses she’s killed and what she does with them
Does Lolth Turn The Deities she slays into Living Flesh Rugs in Constant Agony. This comment is brought to you by the Skaven. The Skaven; we may not be in 40k yet but we will be, and when we will praying to the Anathema won’t save you.
She consumes them then hangs their corpses in her webs which span an entire plane of existence some are still alive and she feeds on them I think there are dozen’s to hundreds because she exists in other dimensions or worlds like ferun Eberon greyhawke etc
The problem here is that people under estimate the warp. The Immaterium is not something as limited as just some “higher-dimensional reality”. It transcends such. The Warp itself can house a higher-dimensional reality of any size, such as when a member of the Adeptus Mechanicus perceived the infinite-dimensional datascape, which was greater than “every paradigm of scalable time”. The Warp’s geometries defy explanation of any kind, while higher dimensions do not. The being that can not just traverse the Immaterium but have domains there (like the chaos god and the emperor) are closer in power to a being like... Nyarlathotep from Cthulhu than Lolth.
@@mikaelantonkurki Well the thing is that the Chaos Gods are limited by the influence of the Warp and the collective consciousness of all life. Meanwhile in other universes like D&D, you have gods that can restructure reality at will even outside of their home plane, and they're only held back by divine treaties and laws enforced by beings of higher power, who are themselves subject to higher tier gods all the way to something like Ao the Overgod, who is himself only one of countless Overgods that oversee the multiverse.
The 40K gods are about level with most old pagan gods. Much more powerful than standard humans, but are rather limited in scope and can sometimes be beaten with the right tricks and tools. I mean, Sisyphus managed to lock *Death* in a *trunk* for a good while. Not Hades, he's just king of the underworld, *literal Death.*
Ah yes, that lovely story. I recall that Ares (a god associated with the nastier sides of war despite having less of a record for the usual shit than nearly all of his male relatives) had to play detective just to find that trunk and get Death out of it.
The hilarious thing about the Alarith horned helmet is that it's supposed to train them to always keep their balance and keep upright like the mountains they revere and live in/on. But every time I see them I keep wondering how their damn necks haven't broken. They're elves for crying out loud, they don't exactly have the strongest physical forms and something that top-heavy is gonna do a hell of a lot worse than pitch them over face first into the mud! LMAO
The emperor seems to plan too far in the future that he doesn't see what's in front of him until it literally blows up in his face. Now he's a skeleton on a psychic chair
The Emperor's inability to level with normal people and understand what drives them is especially funny to me when considering how the primarchs are said to each embody particular aspects of the emperor's personality. Now consider how both Perturabo and Dorn are both bricks when it comes to understanding people. Perturabo in particular employing his own brand of cold machine logic where, as some people have put it, he could design the perfect system but has no understanding of the people who have to be part of it.
The God-Emperor is a C+ at best kinda god. Yes his followers loyalty is great and mighty...if you're a named character. Or in a named regiment. The average imperial citizen is a blind sheep or dog and sometimes a sheep turns out to be a stubborn ram, but that's it.
@@anthraxcrab2222 read up on SCP 3812 or even watch the reaction video to that. That thing tho I suppose that's cheating since that SCP tops every single fictional entity in any franchise
@@mikaelantonkurki do you know the scarlet king literally corrupts/ruins realities just by being in them? and exists in multiple planes at once? when has emps displayed feats even remotely close to that? the "anathema" traits only banish demons not completely purify the entire warp instantly the way the scarlet king works
@@mikaelantonkurki on further review Which version of the scarlet king are you talking about? the Kaktus verse one? The dust and blood scarlet king? the tufto proposal one? or 2747? i can see why youd say hes comparable to kaktus verse SC but the only 3 are so vastly more powerful than the emperor that i just would like more clarification
The problem with making any judgements about the Emperor is that it's pretty much all speculation and individual interpretation. All details of the Emperor's actual personality, motivations and thoughts have been kept purposefully vague and ambiguous in the lore. We never actually see anything written from His perspective, and we only see Him through the biases, preconceptions, and limited perception of other characters. Was he too far removed from humanity to understand our motives and mindsets? Or was He busy threading the needle of possible futures, doing and saying whatever He needed to in any given moment to shift the future in His plan's favor? Malcador actually comments on this in one of the later Horus Heresy novels just before the Siege of Terra starts, where he reflects that even he has no idea when the Emperor is sincere or when He is only doing or saying what His foresight shows Him would lead to a better outcome for the plan. Personally I prefer the interpretation that the Emperor did actually understand humanity just fine, and that he did understand how His sons thought and operated, but He was playing a never-ending game of 5d chess against all of the Chaos gods simultaneously, always reliant on His foresight to pick out which course of action mitigated risk and maximized the chance of His plan to defeat Chaos coming to fruition. Perhaps explaining the threat of Chaos to the Primarchs would have been more likely to lead to a Bad End than keeping them ignorant. Perhaps outlawing religion was less likely to blow up in His face than allowing it to persist. Unfortunately, mitigating risk does not eliminate it, and one of the possible Bad Ends reared its head and ruined His plan, leaving Him with nothing to do but to run some limited form of damage control as humanity spiraled down toward all the horrors He tried to save them from. I think that interpretation of the Emperor fits the overall setting's theme of tragedy and cruel irony much better than the idea that the Emperor was just some out-of-touch, ivory tower despot who failed by having fewer people-skills than the average dumbass off the street.
One problem with you interoritation; not telling his GENERALS about chaos. And no if normal ass people of Interex can look at chaos relics in a PUBLIC DISPLAY his own fucking kids certainly could handle it. This if nothing else telling us he was at best an antisocial moron. Or killing everything on his path do you really think all of the death and suffering great crusade DIDN'T power chaos?
The eldar were a completely galaxy spanning empire. And in other dimensions. Their numbers could be conservatively projected into the quadrillions before the fall. There likely ARE almost as many eldar as humans left even with 90+% of them gone.
@@am-ranth8955 *chuckle* Hence the CONSERVATIVE part. This assumes the eldar were doing the bare minimum of reproduction. If they were actually getting pregnant during the pre-slaaneshi blood orgies... I don't think we could COUNT their population.
Nope, not even close. The Eldar are VASTLY outnumbered, their craftworlds at best hold several hundred millions of Eldar (I said AT BEST) and the number of craftworlds are unlikely to pass 1000, and that doesn't even compare to the Imperium's numbers.
@@KrakenWind That's a failure of the writers to realize what they actually DID. Like most sci-fi creators, they have no concept of the scales they're playing with. Like a hive would wouldn't fit billions. Or trillions. You could, before the waste heat starting cooking everyone, theoretically get up to a quadrillion people onto a fully arcology filled planet. The numbers 40K plays with are hilariously tiny.
2:57 that's an interesting way of seeing the thing on the emperor and chaos their juxtaposition that their 2 sides of a coin for all above he is from humans and many other lifeforms he is above the innate desires of humans whom the chaos gods represent
Your corpse gods days are numbered. No really. There was a novel that came out a few months ago that reveals that the Emperor has at most a century left and all who know about it were killed by tyranids and chaos.
@@am-ranth8955 In Dragon Ball, Ki strength usually coincides with hax resistance, and the stronger the ki, the greater your ability to resist mental effects and psychic effects. Ki also provides a barrier against such attacks. But yeah, I agree with you, he could, but wouldn't.
hard to say but the emperor followers are more like sheep born and raise up thinking, your body and soul belongs to the emperor and the power in charge treat you like crap for being loyal as payment no choice no decision then boom chaoes god comes say there another way, give me your soul and loyalilty and i give you fire/lighting power as a reward and a better way to live by killing those that hurt you your choice and your decision (even if by manplation) way it is not successfully (plot devise) crazy law enforment and ingusition running around killing 1000s of people each day for hersaey (kill enough you sure get the real hectics) thought seond though , the "two head whats he name" deamon, why not summon on a imperaim world and said " I am the avatar of the aquila, symbal of the emperor, worship me.
Because one head lies and the other tells the truth also he’s like the highest ranking daemon of Tzeentch so if he’s on the planet everything is fubar for the imperium and the cultists are winning.
Emps: Noooo, I don’t wanna be a God! 😭
Sigmar: Ah sweet I’m a God! Alright boys, here’s my blessings to cave in some Chaos Fuckwits head with a big hammer 🔨
The chad Sigmar vs The virgin Emperor.
Someone did a video of Slannesh vs Lolth from d&d it was funny to see them complain that Lolth won but if you read into her lore she is HORRIFYING with how many gods/goddesses she’s killed and what she does with them
Does Lolth Turn The Deities she slays into Living Flesh Rugs in Constant Agony.
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@@InquisitorXarius Yeah, about that...
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She consumes them then hangs their corpses in her webs which span an entire plane of existence some are still alive and she feeds on them I think there are dozen’s to hundreds because she exists in other dimensions or worlds like ferun Eberon greyhawke etc
The problem here is that people under estimate the warp. The Immaterium is not something as limited as just some “higher-dimensional reality”. It transcends such. The Warp itself can house a higher-dimensional reality of any size, such as when a member of the Adeptus Mechanicus perceived the infinite-dimensional datascape, which was greater than “every paradigm of scalable time”. The Warp’s geometries defy explanation of any kind, while higher dimensions do not.
The being that can not just traverse the Immaterium but have domains there (like the chaos god and the emperor) are closer in power to a being like... Nyarlathotep from Cthulhu than Lolth.
@@mikaelantonkurki Well the thing is that the Chaos Gods are limited by the influence of the Warp and the collective consciousness of all life. Meanwhile in other universes like D&D, you have gods that can restructure reality at will even outside of their home plane, and they're only held back by divine treaties and laws enforced by beings of higher power, who are themselves subject to higher tier gods all the way to something like Ao the Overgod, who is himself only one of countless Overgods that oversee the multiverse.
The 40K gods are about level with most old pagan gods. Much more powerful than standard humans, but are rather limited in scope and can sometimes be beaten with the right tricks and tools. I mean, Sisyphus managed to lock *Death* in a *trunk* for a good while. Not Hades, he's just king of the underworld, *literal Death.*
Which was far weaker than any of the higher tier gods death was a low tier being in the pantheon
Also if their at that level j can bring up orphic zeus
@@durrangodsgrief6503 Which is *weird* because death is kinda inevitable.
Ah yes, that lovely story. I recall that Ares (a god associated with the nastier sides of war despite having less of a record for the usual shit than nearly all of his male relatives) had to play detective just to find that trunk and get Death out of it.
@@discountplaguedoctor88 Yeah. Because none of the gods known for having intelligence thought to look in the last place he was seen. Good grief.
The hilarious thing about the Alarith horned helmet is that it's supposed to train them to always keep their balance and keep upright like the mountains they revere and live in/on. But every time I see them I keep wondering how their damn necks haven't broken. They're elves for crying out loud, they don't exactly have the strongest physical forms and something that top-heavy is gonna do a hell of a lot worse than pitch them over face first into the mud! LMAO
The emperor seems to plan too far in the future that he doesn't see what's in front of him until it literally blows up in his face.
Now he's a skeleton on a psychic chair
Indeed
Agreed
Gotta remember, it still took him decades to conquer Earth despite having no comparable rivals, he can't be _that_ powerful.
Nurgle’s love of his followers is like love of a parent that beats you
The Emperor's inability to level with normal people and understand what drives them is especially funny to me when considering how the primarchs are said to each embody particular aspects of the emperor's personality. Now consider how both Perturabo and Dorn are both bricks when it comes to understanding people. Perturabo in particular employing his own brand of cold machine logic where, as some people have put it, he could design the perfect system but has no understanding of the people who have to be part of it.
Even worse, he's a psyker. His lack of emotional intelligence is kind of pathetic for someone that can directly perceive the emotions of others...
The God-Emperor is a C+ at best kinda god. Yes his followers loyalty is great and mighty...if you're a named character. Or in a named regiment. The average imperial citizen is a blind sheep or dog and sometimes a sheep turns out to be a stubborn ram, but that's it.
You couldn't even compare the emperor to half of the keter/apollyon class anomalies in SCP. He just barely has any feats at all
Deleted a single soul from existence one time, weak shit bro
@@anthraxcrab2222 read up on SCP 3812 or even watch the reaction video to that. That thing tho I suppose that's cheating since that SCP tops every single fictional entity in any franchise
Emperor is a peer to the Scarlet King.
@@mikaelantonkurki do you know the scarlet king literally corrupts/ruins realities just by being in them? and exists in multiple planes at once? when has emps displayed feats even remotely close to that? the "anathema" traits only banish demons not completely purify the entire warp instantly the way the scarlet king works
@@mikaelantonkurki on further review Which version of the scarlet king are you talking about? the Kaktus verse one? The dust and blood scarlet king? the tufto proposal one? or 2747? i can see why youd say hes comparable to kaktus verse SC but the only 3 are so vastly more powerful than the emperor that i just would like more clarification
I TAKE OFFENSE TO BEING CALLED A D-TIER GOD, MORTAL!
The problem with making any judgements about the Emperor is that it's pretty much all speculation and individual interpretation. All details of the Emperor's actual personality, motivations and thoughts have been kept purposefully vague and ambiguous in the lore. We never actually see anything written from His perspective, and we only see Him through the biases, preconceptions, and limited perception of other characters. Was he too far removed from humanity to understand our motives and mindsets? Or was He busy threading the needle of possible futures, doing and saying whatever He needed to in any given moment to shift the future in His plan's favor? Malcador actually comments on this in one of the later Horus Heresy novels just before the Siege of Terra starts, where he reflects that even he has no idea when the Emperor is sincere or when He is only doing or saying what His foresight shows Him would lead to a better outcome for the plan.
Personally I prefer the interpretation that the Emperor did actually understand humanity just fine, and that he did understand how His sons thought and operated, but He was playing a never-ending game of 5d chess against all of the Chaos gods simultaneously, always reliant on His foresight to pick out which course of action mitigated risk and maximized the chance of His plan to defeat Chaos coming to fruition. Perhaps explaining the threat of Chaos to the Primarchs would have been more likely to lead to a Bad End than keeping them ignorant. Perhaps outlawing religion was less likely to blow up in His face than allowing it to persist.
Unfortunately, mitigating risk does not eliminate it, and one of the possible Bad Ends reared its head and ruined His plan, leaving Him with nothing to do but to run some limited form of damage control as humanity spiraled down toward all the horrors He tried to save them from. I think that interpretation of the Emperor fits the overall setting's theme of tragedy and cruel irony much better than the idea that the Emperor was just some out-of-touch, ivory tower despot who failed by having fewer people-skills than the average dumbass off the street.
One problem with you interoritation; not telling his GENERALS about chaos. And no if normal ass people of Interex can look at chaos relics in a PUBLIC DISPLAY his own fucking kids certainly could handle it. This if nothing else telling us he was at best an antisocial moron.
Or killing everything on his path do you really think all of the death and suffering great crusade DIDN'T power chaos?
Great Horned Rat is Big E but more dangerous, terrifying, and competent.
The emperor is the God of spite
Inquisitor, this video right here.
Shsssshhhhhh! If you tell them you saw this they’ll purge the fleet command of the entire segmentum!
@@admiralglenn2323 ……meh, as long as *I* dont die. Less competition would be nice.
@@Mrsalt7500 YOU saw it! That means YOU’RE FIRST!
@@Mrsalt7500 Oh no. Looks like I have to call in some favors and disappear.
4:25 can emperor beat beerus
The eldar were a completely galaxy spanning empire. And in other dimensions. Their numbers could be conservatively projected into the quadrillions before the fall. There likely ARE almost as many eldar as humans left even with 90+% of them gone.
@@am-ranth8955 *chuckle* Hence the CONSERVATIVE part. This assumes the eldar were doing the bare minimum of reproduction. If they were actually getting pregnant during the pre-slaaneshi blood orgies... I don't think we could COUNT their population.
Nope, not even close. The Eldar are VASTLY outnumbered, their craftworlds at best hold several hundred millions of Eldar (I said AT BEST) and the number of craftworlds are unlikely to pass 1000, and that doesn't even compare to the Imperium's numbers.
@@KrakenWind That's a failure of the writers to realize what they actually DID. Like most sci-fi creators, they have no concept of the scales they're playing with. Like a hive would wouldn't fit billions. Or trillions. You could, before the waste heat starting cooking everyone, theoretically get up to a quadrillion people onto a fully arcology filled planet. The numbers 40K plays with are hilariously tiny.
2:57 that's an interesting way of seeing the thing on the emperor and chaos their juxtaposition that their 2 sides of a coin for all above he is from humans and many other lifeforms he is above the innate desires of humans whom the chaos gods represent
Pancreas released a video going over the Chaos Gods in detail on the same day that I posted this comment.
How do gork and mork rank as “gods”?
The Biggest and The Bestest
@@adamhuntington2686 Mork would be the Biggest and the Bestest but Gork would be the Bestest and the Biggest.
The Chad Skaven Stormfiends vs the Virgin Imperial Fists.
Video idea what if the old man *dun dun dun* was the emperor
He is just a man a great man but still a man, we should believe?
Well, it's a good thing he's a Man.
Pure heresy. Only the Age of Mythology music is keeping the flamer at bay…
Heresy, the emperor is the best god.
Your corpse gods days are numbered. No really. There was a novel that came out a few months ago that reveals that the Emperor has at most a century left and all who know about it were killed by tyranids and chaos.
The Emperor is the only god
Death to the emperor!!
22:25 Old man, helmets can always get worse
Alright, I heavily disagree on the Goku part. Goku could blast the Emperor apart before he would even compute what was happening.
@@am-ranth8955 In Dragon Ball, Ki strength usually coincides with hax resistance, and the stronger the ki, the greater your ability to resist mental effects and psychic effects. Ki also provides a barrier against such attacks.
But yeah, I agree with you, he could, but wouldn't.
Difficult to throw my thoughts because my knowledge of Age of Sigmar or Warhammer Fantasy is basically 0.
Is it a good read? 🧐
I think i should get the commisar
hard to say but the emperor followers are more like sheep
born and raise up thinking, your body and soul belongs to the emperor and the power in charge treat you like crap for being loyal as payment
no choice no decision
then
boom chaoes god comes say there another way, give me your soul and loyalilty and i give you fire/lighting power as a reward and a better way to live by killing those that hurt you
your choice and your decision (even if by manplation)
way it is not successfully (plot devise) crazy law enforment and ingusition running around killing 1000s of people each day for hersaey (kill enough you sure get the real hectics)
thought seond though , the "two head whats he name" deamon, why not summon on a imperaim world and said " I am the avatar of the aquila, symbal of the emperor, worship me.
Because one head lies and the other tells the truth also he’s like the highest ranking daemon of Tzeentch so if he’s on the planet everything is fubar for the imperium and the cultists are winning.