Ben Hogan's Secret... It's The Right Knee!!!
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This is cool. I’ve been looking at numerous Hogan proponents On UA-cam. Today I added a move of the trail knee at the ball and striped it. Very encouraging to have that idea validated.
Christo , unknowingly , Hogan spilled the beans re: “The Secret “ in Curt Sampson’s book , “Hogan” , in italics at the top of one of the chapters , I don’t know which one, as I looked at the book at a Barnes & Noble near me years ago but don’t have the book . He said , “ you know why I’m so G..D…Good ? Cuz’ I Don’t Move My Right Knee !” I remember that quote because that has been my “go to “ key for years when I get off track ! I’m 75 and a retired Teaching Professional in NM and never have been a Hogan devote’ as you are , but this IS is his “ secret “ , I believe ! John ps. ( He was talking about NOT moving the knee on the backswing )
Christo as a fellow Ben Hogan fan, urs is by far the best Ben Hogan channel on UA-cam . There are UA-camrs out there explaining Ben Hogans swing and if he was alive he would probably drive a golf ball at them from 250 and hit them right between the eyes.
After almost 30 years of studying the golf swing.... And getting to point where a know what to do for anyone out there this channel explains exactly what Hogan did. I 🤔 ur right on the knee also he does mention much about it in the downswing... But he did pay alot of attention to it in the backswing but then never mention too much about it in the downswing. If ur ever in Ireland please let me know.
"Throwing the right knee INTO the ball" is incredibly misleading. If you're trail knee kicks out toward the ball (meaning target line) you're asking for the right hip to fire out too early + early extension. This is a move that most bad golfers already do and why so many of them look so jammed up and have the "elvis" foot (up on toes) at impact. You're right knee shouldn't go past where it was at address.
Doesn't matter what this guy says ben hogan felt like he was doing, no great ball striker throws his right knee toward the target line. The target? Meaning where the ball is *going* to go? Maybe.
Christo as a fellow Ben Hogan fan, urs is by far the best Ben Hogan channel on UA-cam . There are UA-camrs out there explaining Ben Hogans swing and if he was alive he would probably drive a golf ball at them from 250 and hit them right between the eyes.
After almost 30 years of studying the golf swing.... And getting to point where a know what to do for anyone out there this channel explains exactly what Hogan did. I 🤔 ur right on the knee, also he doesn't mention much about it in the downswing... But he did pay alot of attention to it in the backswing but then never mentions too much about it in the downswing. If ur ever in Ireland please let me know.
I just think of stepping off my right foot to start the down swing and my right knee " runs at the ball" just like it says in that awesome book Jody wrote.
Pretty damn good book. Reading it now. The man was sublime.
i've been concentrating more on the left hip and knee coming down, maybe too much, gonna try the right knee action as explained, thnx for the hogan secret. i've had his two books for 40+ years and always go back to them.
I must say, you have done an amazing job. Like you, I am a Hogan disciple. I bought every book and especially the Jodie Vasquez book is one of my favorites. But that you have met with so many greats, (Jody, Jack, Chichi etc.) on the subject of Hogan is just amazing. I saw your stuff early on. I'm simply flabbergasted at where you have taken this. Great stuff!
essentially using your right leg as a "brace". Reminds me of porzak golf and his "hip bump" that kicks that right knee in to start the swing
I think you could contrast Sam Snead type swings which move the left knee back first to get the “Snead Squat" and those that break the right knee in first. The Snead squat type swings seem more armsy/flippy and the right knee ones more rotational/open at impact.
Great topic!
Moving the right knee first means there is no weight shift resulting in a 150 yard drive.
@@macattack5272 if you say so 🤣 Contrast Hogans right knee and Sneads right knee, Hogans breaks in fast and he effectively drags his right foot through the swing with massive weight shift, much more than Snead. Same with Knudson. Jody Vasquez reckons Hogan told him that right knee action was his ‘secret’, although I’m not so sure about that, I tend to think it’s more the right elbow relationship to his left arm, like Moe Norman says. Knudson liked to move through the ball a lot though as well, and was very accurate, so maybe it was.
Where is Jodi Vasquez located? What part of Texas? I too swing like he describes. I am saying my goodbyes here in cold Oregon and heading out to Texas - Corpus Christi area.
He’s in Fort Worth!
Hogan's early swings looked so much more fluid, long and powerful and rhythmic. in fact his best years were in the late 40s before the accident... people focus on 1953 because of the 3 majors... but in terms of tournaments won, the 40s were the Hogan decade!! I wonder if Hogan would have made the adjustments he made after the accident if there was no accident... I heard he was 5'7" and heard he was hitting drives 300 yards... is there any actual data out there to determine how long he actually hit the ball on his drives. I think it was more like 250 yards.
i hear his distances were like this 1iron 195 2iron 185 3iron 175 4iron 165 5iron 155 6iron 145 7iron 135 8iron 125 9iron 115 PW 100 SW 80 and driver 265 and 3 wood 235. is far as the truth is i dont know if this is right but i here theses where the distances in 48.
He has his distance chart in Power Golf. He was a longer player in his time. Usually he didn’t swing all out with his irons.
I knew this was familiar - I read Jody’s book a while ago where he pointed this out along with the cupped left wrist - pages 53 to 63😂 I’m very right side oriented so like this thought/move. But it doesn’t look right when I do it, although now I think I know why, and it’s because I have NO right sidebend! I have now elevated sidebend to top place in my list of factors that distinguish good swings from poor ones (and I have none!!) - when practising it I feel like Lee Trevino 🤣🤣 There’s a video out with Ben repeatedly hitting shots on a practise area, which is a good watch as it really shows this knee action.
whats the video?
@@BGM6474 Ben Hogan - in pursuit of perfection. An amateur filmed his practise at the 1967 masters and then added commentary against slow motion swings. I bought it on DVD but the is a copy (not sure if it’s all of it, check the dvd details) on UA-cam : ua-cam.com/video/LKcxxTkysgc/v-deo.html
@@AndrewDCDrummond Thanks for this!
@@AndrewDCDrummond Thanks for the video
@@MiracleSwingExperience I got a question ive found that i got more of a late rotation i rotate after i hit the ball but i hit every shot straight and it feels like a got alot of space and i feel is if im rotating hard what should i do to make the rotation start first?.
1:32 - The frame at or just before impact, we see his lead hip is much higher than his trail hip, and the hips are open probably 45-65 degrees, his trail elbow is bent at impact, and his trail side has significant lateral side bend. I encourage everyone to pause their own footage of their swing at impact and see if your hips are parallel or is the lead side much higher? If they are parallel that means you don't have enough lateral side bend nor rotation. Ben is literally hitting the ball with his trail side hip pointing at the ball, NOT his belly button pointing at the ball. He understood golf is a side on sport.
fyi: right knee isn’t mentioned until 6:20
So running the knee at the ball... this can be interpreted 2 ways.... if you actually run the knee at the ball think of this... the knees are on a parallel line to the ball target line... like parallel train tracks... to actually run the knee at the ball would mean moving it in a direction that if the club were moving the same direction would be a push to the right.
Or you could just have the knee move along the train tracks ... a parallel line to the ball target line.
So which is the correct one... the knee moving at 45 degrees toward the actual ball or the knee moving toward the other knee which would be along the original knee line at address.
This was not explained by Jody... so there will likely be different interpretations... kinda like people trying to interpret the Bible... Lol
I’ve been around and around with this. I believe because the swing is a circle, from the top it starts at the ball and ends at the target.
@@MiracleSwingExperience mike austin
I read the book name "science golf of ben hogan" and when i look at the picture in the book. I can't imagin how to do cute angle and relase too the ball. Until i see video on internet and i get why he can do that. Human can not understand dynamic movement that explain by stop motion picture. But in video it has a rhythm. And rhythm of hogan is a rhythm of water. Non stop fluidly.
look up mike austin
I do have a big balance issue where in the swing I go forward onto the balls of my feet in the backswing and then stay there I miss hit and shank the golf club I have the 50th anniversary edition of the book I'm a bit odd as I'm left handed but play golf and racket sports right handed
christo, i purchased the 'hogan code' but never have watched it. how do i get access to it?
"At the ball'? Needs more explanation. It must mean towards the target so it gets parallel to the ball? At the ball - i.e. forward - is a killer.
At the ball is not forward - Right knee moves away from the ball in the backswing so firing at the ball in the downswing makes sense. It's actually a move DOWN and towards the ball as well I think from watching.
yes.
I have a question that I have not been able to get an answer to and I thought this might be a good place to try. I have a knee replacement in my right knee and I am a right handed golfer. Knee replacements DO NOT have much (if any) lateral flexibility, I cannot bend my right knee sideways into my left leg as I hit an iron or wedge shot. My question is, can anyone offer me a suggestion for a compensative movement? I wish more golf teachers were able to think outside the box a little better because I have had lessons from three different places and none of them were able to offer me any ideas at all about how to get around my limitations, despite the fact I've done pretty well on my own and I am quite strong. Any ideas would be very appreciated.
Difficult for anyone to offer advice in case you follow it and get injured.
I have a similar issue and I found using a closed stance helps me also play a ten yard pull slice.
Ultimately your solution is going to be to consider a stance, alignment and ball position change and to consider playing one shot shape.
It’s also a question of ankle and hip mobility, the human knee doesn’t have lateral flexion it’s a compound move.
Ben Hogans's secret was the same as Moe Norman's, practice 12 hours a day.
Awesome video ,, This is one of the best on the secret subject that I’ve seen , Can you do a video explaining the way he concentrated , and prepared for tournaments .
This is basically what I’m talking about
I’m the video I sent you.
I’m confused because this is contradictory to this video at 40 seconds that u posted to keep right leg posted and not flexed. There are also videos of hogans swing where it appears braced and not bent on the backswing. So which is it? Here is the video at 40 seconds where u state to brace right leg
ua-cam.com/video/J5wgSpAZw3A/v-deo.html
Thanks for the question. Braced does not mean extended or straight. Hogan's right leg would straighten sometimes and at other times he would keep the flex at his knee. It was "braced" in the sense that he never swayed off of the ball away from the target. That is what braced is referring to by folks that study Ben Hogan.
Mike Austin and Dan Shauger always stressed the right running around. Steve Pratt carries that knee movement forward.
Sure the right knee is important in a right handed swing, but so is the left knee working in tandem with the right. Left knee braces the left leg which acts as a pillar around which the swing moves. But hey, tomorrow it'll be something else and that's why we play this intriguing game.
OMG, that’s so true. I worked on it today and wound up someplace completely different! 😆
He missed 20 majors due to injury and WWII
People forget that .... and in his prime age years
That's true. Gary Player said he missed 30!
yeah it's the secret, not the fact that hogan hit balls from sun up to sun down, if u had such a secret would u be hitting balls all day long, what u should be saying is hogan found through hours and hours of practice what worked under pressure for him and unless ur willing to work like hogan what u are doing is sending alot of people backwards in their games
the only thing there is that his right knee moves to the right in the first part of his backswing, as the angle of the lower part of his right leg extends into the upper part of his leg, forming a straight line at the top and increasing the angle of the upper part of his leg. this loads power in the left side of the right thigh. and, the thigh is clearly the driving force in the downswing
Left know works in a direct line in towards the other knee not forward, its simple and works. However you wont win a major as natural talent is where you 24 hcp will remain stuck.
then Scottie Scheffler became number one the golfer whose balance is unfathomable 😉just a thought
More misinformation from the Garcia camp. Hogan said the knees work toward EACHOTHER nothing about "at the ball" BS
I wish you would stop insulting Ben Hogan by constantly claiming ' his secret ' he told the world that there was NO secret. To even arrive at his mind and knowledge would take YOU 500 lifetimes. Just STOP it please, you are grasping at straws regarding Hogan, you don't even come close to conveying what he did. You are approaching Hogan from an amateur perspective and you probably do not know what that statement even means. You have great enthusiasm I'll give you that but stop insulting Hogan please just stop it ! Oh he had a secret oh he had a secret and I know what it is it is the right knee.....you have no idea what goes on before that knee reacts, otherwise you would not see it as a secret but as a normal and expected reaction to something else....that something else you should easily know but as you pursue Hogan from the wrong path then you don't know what causes that knee to do what it does! Good Day.
ITS THE RIGHT KNEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is probably Moe Norman’s secret too…
The Hogan code my ass
Ben Hogans real secret is 1000 shots per day
Unfortunately it was both knees. Hogan drove BOTH knees right of the the target to start the downswing. In the video, your left knee works straight back NOT toward the target in a closed position which creates a slice or pull. I love the "Training Guides" but most miss what actually happens. When you start the downswing the left knee must be closer to the target line than the right, THEN you can drive the right knee toward the ball. I'm sure you still spin out and hit it left or slice it on occassion. Try it. The knees start CLOSED. This guy has no secret. If you look at the videos you put up, you'll see that the left knee has cleared long before Hogan gets to the delivery position. He never gets to the postion you imitate in this video. Thanks for the effort.
What do you know
All this overthinking lol.
Ben Hogan had a great swing, however Jack Nicklaus has the greatest record in golf history. He won a total of 117 tournaments and 18 majors, an accomplishment no one will ever equal. Bobby Jones won all four majors in one year, 1930. But the greatest ball-striker of all time was Moe Norman.
Yeah and if Hogan had of not been in that accident or served in the war he would have won more majors than Nicklaus. End of the day Jack Nicklaus used to watch Hogan hit balls, Hogan never ever watched Jack or any other pro hit balls end of discussion