Did you have to get a power commander for the fueling or did the motorcycle ecu adjust the fueling adequately enough?... I have the same setup on my Thrux R.
Agreed, have to say that Triumph do make good exhaust choices for their bikes. I actually think that Triumph use V&H for their original exhaust?! Correct me if I'm wrong.
I can understand your pleasure at these mods because I did similar on my T120. Vance and Hines plus xpipe. It isn't much louder but the engine does feel more free and it is more fun in low gears in town. Good job for doing it yourself! I am not so patient ha ha. Keep up the good videos.
I have the V&H slip on with a motone x pipe and db killer removed, sounds perfect now!! Added a booster cable, it runs so much smoother at lower rpm's .
I was thinking if that exact same set up. Would cops in California pull me over and give me a ticket for being too loud, having me change it in the end too? And what is the difference between a booster plug and a power commander?
@@joshchacko7729 You have to be diplomatic around cops. Try to go past them in lower revs and refrain from doing anything obnoxious. Pull in the clutch to glide past them silently if you have to. Cops usuy only bother people who are revving unnecessarily or doing burnouts etc.
Hodaka pic for the win! Three suggestions: 1. Condor stand. Roll bike in, pop the back or front end up if need be. No fall, no worries. 2. Loctite 3. Torque wrench. I was cringing when you tightened some of those bolts. A little corrosion and they will snap or be marred trying to take loose. That was a lot of work, thanks for the vid. Sounds bad-ass-tastic!
Stuart commented that the v-clamps were fiddly. (!) I'll say. I ordered a set of real V-clamps but they came too big so after waiting a week I went back into the battle with the Triumph parts. Scraping a bit of gasket ff each on the concrete floor made all the difference. Enjoy your ride.
Great video! Now that you’ve made these changes, you may want to consider doing the “12 Minute Tune” for the Triumph 1200s. It made a huge difference on my 2018 Bobber.
Great video Adam. Did the same to my T120 including the DNA filter and removing the snorkel. I will doing this to my speed twin too. makes a world of difference. Just remember when all your mods are done to start the engine without touching the throttle and all to idle till the fan kicks in. Triumph dealer told me to do this to reset adaptions.
I thought about the V&H slip-ons for my new Speed Twin. Glad I didn't get them as they're too close to the stock cans although I'm sure withOUT the db killers in they'll be much better. I instead ordered the Remus pipes from the Thruxton and hope to have them in a week or 2. Will take the db killers out for sure. Still up in the air about the x-pipe though. Time will tell.
I feel like the stock exhaust sounds the deepest, although higher frequencies will seem louder and you will be heard better. I like the deepest sounding exhausts in general tho, awesome video
TEC X pipe is worth the faffing around. 3 hours with someone who knows what their doing with all the right tools and it’s always the last clamp that fights back. Sounds good even with the standard cans plus a bit of weight saving.
I love this Bike it sounds great, I have a Trophy with a Carbon Delkavic slip on exhaust, most likely cut about 20 lb of the bike and the triple sounds madder than hell at about 9000 RPM :-)
In the final comparison starting at 18:45, the stock exhaust clearly sounds deeper and, at least to me, better. The V&H and the V&H + X pipe have a higher pitch and less refined sound. I'm not against performance mods and if the V&H + X pipe gives you a feel, (you claim it has more torque), that's great. But from a sound perspective, at least from the perspective you shot in the video, stock wins IMHO.
Adam Croll I have a similar set up on my Speed Twin. X pipe and V&H silencers. What I have found is the there is a lot popping on a closed throttle. Now I quite like that up to a point but feel it is excessive and somewhat spoils the ride. I have fitted a booster plug but find this makes absolutely no difference. Enjoyed your videos.
@adamcroll I'm curious what's inside the stock exhaust tips? I wonder if you drilled out those rivets could you remove any baffeling or make straight pipes out of them? I have a 2021 speed twin (Not the new 2021), I just got it. I have the xpipe on order. I'm interested in various aftermarket ends, but they're all really pricey. Wondering if you could DIY the stock tips?
Hi Stephen...little late to respond but if you haven't got that far...I I have a '22 Speed Twin and actually like the stock sound. I like it even better after I took the baffles out. Super easy job on the US model. Once the the tack weld on the retaining screw was ground off with a dremel, the baffles should slide ride out. Mine were a bit to tight to just slide out but i made a little j hook jig that pulled them right out with out having to pry on them...super easy. I am waiting on a Freespirits XL pipe and want to see how it sounds with the decat and the stock pipes without the baffles. Might be able to keep it less expensive without having to buy pipes if the stockers sound good enough without the baffles.
I bought the Tec X-Pipe a year ago for my speed twin. I'm not sure i I should fit it or not. I'm living in Spain and they check emissions here for the MOT (ITV). This means I would have to reinstall the cat every time I get my bike tested. I'm not sure if the time it would take is worth it.
Great video other than...Why didn't you take the baffles out before you did the X-pipe and again why not do a sound comparison with and without the baffles after you fitted the X-pipe???
Nice touch. A little too quiet. Back in the day we would take out baffles, install a small Bates headlight, toss any turn signals, if it had them....or get them small and close in. Those rear signals look good. ....low drag bars, no or very short front fender....love those parallel twins.....Matchless, Triumph, BSA, ..... then Honda came to town and opened up a huge bike lot....thirty or so to see, instead of two or six bikes. Thanks
no need to do the air cleaner the stock filter set up flows more air then the engine can use also you need to reset the ecu start the bike and let idle DO NOT TOUCH THE THROTTLE after the fan comes on and cycles off turn off the engine then your good TEC parts makes a cam that will bump up the hp to 114 it is the same grind that is used for the collector edition thruxton
@@atlbikenight shop.tecbikeparts.com/t/watercooled-performance the USA web site is not very well run this is the UK site but they have said all parts are available in the US.
Hey Adam,how about installing the tech bike performance cam to the speed twin. It would be a good project and I would to see what difference it makes to the bike.Cheers.
So were these, they have a triumph logo embossed on each silencer. I’ve always been a fan of V&H pipes given the choice I’d pick V&H over arrow anyway.
Great looking bike and seat. I know I'm whining but can't we get Thruxton R forks and shocks on this bike? That would be perfect. Also, sounds great. Worthy upgrade.
@Adam Croll Hi, Adam, when you installed the X Pipe, did the bike sounds more raspy to you? Almost like an exhaust leak where the X Pipe connects? I felt around and don't seem to feel any exhaust leaks but wanted to see what you experience was when you installed it.
I wouldn’t describe it as raspy, at least not in an exhaust leak kind of way, I’d say it’s more of a deep visceral bass sound improvement for mine, in my opinion of corse. Everyone’s ears are different though. As long as you can’t find a leak then I guess it’s up to your opinion of the sound, and of corse every slip on exhaust will change it as well.
Adam Croll Ok thanks, I will go and check everything again and make sure I didn’t make any mistakes. The throttle is smoother after the additional of the booster plug and this X Pipe, both of which I did thanks to your videos. SC project exhaust cans are on the way. Thanks for the reply!
Personally I think the stock pipes sound better.... but then I’ve just put thruxton pipes on mine ..... purely for the look .... glad you like them ....ps get a ramp sir , makes life soooooooo easy ...regards Fred
Great video. Very detailed and clarifying. Thanks for that. Question about something I am experiencing dow here in Rio de Janeiro/Brazil that I would like to know if you have the same perception. So, here is very hot and engine temperature is some kind uncomfortable. So, did you feel any reduction of engine temperature around the legs spot mainly when the radiato´s ventilators are on? (most sensible on traffic jams). Thank you very much
awesome video man! Love the format. Glad you removed the catalytic converter. I own a street twin and removed my cat and its 99.99% the same process. Was laughing at you curse the process out. HAHA I had the same reaction but in the end its so worth it. Also Put a high flow air filter in
@@glengerdes2447 If you really like to experiment and build you own, you just have to own old stuff. BTW, do you know that when they passed the smog inspection law, it was supposed to be a rolling 30 year window. Yet in 2005 when the 1976 models would roll out of the 30 year window, our lying swine legislators repealed the 30 year rolling window and froze the date at 1975 and earlier.
Emission testing has ended for all vehicles in Washington 2020 ! DB issues upheld by individual municipalities !! Speeding enforced mostly by photo ! Cheers
Can you remove baffles on the V&H? I thought they were fixed. Also Adam is the sound difference noticeable? I was thinking of fitting an Xpipe on my Thruxton R. Its difficult to tell just how loud it gets on UA-cam vids. Still only standard cans atm though.
Adam, thanks for the video. I see you removed the tank. on the tec-bike website video, they did not? just curious if it was a necessary step to install the X-Pipe? thanks
Nice vid Adam loved the way you couldn't wait to open the package, reminded me of my kids on Christmas Day.Realy like your tail tidy can you post a link regards Robbie Wales UK
Anything you do CAN void the factory warranty, but they'd have to prove your mods caused the failure. Like, changing the exhaust pipe didn't cause the brakes to fail or the oil pump to seize, etc.
No, it is technically illegal to remove it but there is a lack of enforcement. Motorcycles don’t have to have inspections at any time even if sold to a new owner. Only issue for me would be if I needed engine warranty work.
Would it make a difference if I removed catalytic converter and installed nex x pipe from the other side of the bike? Not the side where the kickstand is.
Im sure that would work, I did have to loosen both sides of the frame rails to give myself enough room to get it out though. So either side should be ok!
It's not live sound I'm hearing but the stock has more low mid frequency & a deeper bark to it which is my preference. The mod has more clarity to the sound but not as much a classic Triumph exhaust note rumble IMO. BUT this "torque" aspect to the mod you mentioned is another deal maker to consider. Is it? Well done Adam!
Main reason for Vance and Hines is the looks but then you didn't give us a shot of the looks difference. Also could you list which tools I need for each job?
He didn't check that unfortunately ! For the price of the x-pipe, I think it's not mandatory to put those V&H slip ons. On any 2 cylinder Triumph bike, you could improve the sound and response just by removing the cat converter which is very restrictive.
Nice set up. Just fitted the same x-pipe to my speed twin this evening. You mention torquing everything up... where have you found the torque settings for the frame bolts? Can’t find them anywhere. Cheers. 👍🏻
How much weight did you save? I’m curious if you weighed the slip ons and x-pipe before you put them on and weighed the stock mufflers and cat after you took them off. I went to a Triumph dealership yesterday to look at this exact bike and I definitely think this will be my first upgrade. Also thinking about ohlins on the rear.
I don’t think this bike needs the help from a power commander, in another video I do change the air filter out for more air flow. I personally hate the way exhaust wrap looks, so I avoid it even if it does lock in some of the heat!
@@AdamCroll Would you atleast suggest a dyno tune one time if I do the whole exhaust set up you've done as well as an air filter on the speed twin? Also, I'm fine with the looks, but I've heard that wrapping can actually be bad for the bike in the long run. I aim to die old, but still on my bike. Do you know anything abou that?
I’ve never done a dunk run on any bikes, it would be cool to know what’s going on with the performance. Everything I’ve read says the triumphs ECU adapts pretty well on its own.
Would removing the cat effect emissions? Here in the U.K. any vehicle once it reaches three years old must have a test every twelve months including emissions.
So Sad !! Here in Washington state, all emission s testing ending 2020 ! Motorcycles were never included ! So, if you weren't concerned with warranties/ contracts of service , motifications/ performance upgrades are possible shortly after taking possession . If you know what you're doing/ builder , these bikes are great candidates for all sorts of improvements. Cheers
I never tested that as I put the silencers on first. But from what I’ve been told it’s almost the same tone and sound. The V&H pipes just look better (IMO) probably not worth the extra money though.
I'm curious about octane before and after the decat, booster plug and exhaust mods. I know the manual recommends 87 but California being what it is, I'm wondering what you run and if you've tried 89 and 91. Any issues? Performance improvement?
Which setup sounds best?! are the V&H silencers worth the money for their good looks?
now you should try it without the dbkiller
Did you have to get a power commander for the fueling or did the motorcycle ecu adjust the fueling adequately enough?... I have the same setup on my Thrux R.
@@thecomedian4967 no power commander, everything I've read says that the ecu will adapt on its own. so far so good!
Could you possibly provide the model of V&H slip this is and maybe a link? Thank you so much.
Found it! Triumph A9600524 Vance & Hines Slip-On Exhaust Kit
I like the stock better!
Agreed
Agreed, have to say that Triumph do make good exhaust choices for their bikes. I actually think that Triumph use V&H for their original exhaust?! Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes
X pipe ruins the 1200 exhaust sound
I have the Vance & Hines with the decat X-pip and the bike now runs the way it was meant to. I'm very happy with it.
3:36 skip to sound test :)
why???? Is funny c'mon!!!
I can understand your pleasure at these mods because I did similar on my T120. Vance and Hines plus xpipe. It isn't much louder but the engine does feel more free and it is more fun in low gears in town. Good job for doing it yourself! I am not so patient ha ha. Keep up the good videos.
First thing I noticed is that you had two days in a row without rain. All our Michigan friends will understand! Pipes sound great!
I’m a big fan of vance and hines exhausts but I’m sorry the stock exhaust sound much better.
I have the V&H slip on with a motone x pipe and db killer removed, sounds perfect now!! Added a booster cable, it runs so much smoother at lower rpm's .
I was thinking if that exact same set up. Would cops in California pull me over and give me a ticket for being too loud, having me change it in the end too? And what is the difference between a booster plug and a power commander?
@@joshchacko7729 You have to be diplomatic around cops. Try to go past them in lower revs and refrain from doing anything obnoxious. Pull in the clutch to glide past them silently if you have to. Cops usuy only bother people who are revving unnecessarily or doing burnouts etc.
I would start to freak out right before the tank removal step 😅
Great job!
Hodaka pic for the win! Three suggestions:
1. Condor stand. Roll bike in, pop the back or front end up if need be. No fall, no worries.
2. Loctite
3. Torque wrench. I was cringing when you tightened some of those bolts. A little corrosion and they will snap or be marred trying to take loose.
That was a lot of work, thanks for the vid. Sounds bad-ass-tastic!
A Hodaka Road Toad was my first introduction to two wheels when I was a child! (My Dads)
Thanks for the mods and the comparo! Loved watching it - thanks for taking the effort to produce this video and all the DIY stuff!
I will have this bike by the end of the year! Great video.
Stock sound feeling better
The seat looks more like a civilized this millennium bike,a nice improvement!
Beautiful bike, and all of the takes sounded great tbh.
Stuart commented that the v-clamps were fiddly. (!) I'll say. I ordered a set of real V-clamps but they came too big so after waiting a week I went back into the battle with the Triumph parts. Scraping a bit of gasket ff each on the concrete floor made all the difference. Enjoy your ride.
Great video Adam! Yes the new pipes are gorgeous and worth it
Great video! Now that you’ve made these changes, you may want to consider doing the “12 Minute Tune” for the Triumph 1200s. It made a huge difference on my 2018 Bobber.
Thanks for loading and showing us how it sounds. Incredible difference, great job 🤙🏻
Great video Adam. Did the same to my T120 including the DNA filter and removing the snorkel. I will doing this to my speed twin too. makes a world of difference. Just remember when all your mods are done to start the engine without touching the throttle and all to idle till the fan kicks in. Triumph dealer told me to do this to reset adaptions.
I thought about the V&H slip-ons for my new Speed Twin. Glad I didn't get them as they're too close to the stock cans although I'm sure withOUT the db killers in they'll be much better. I instead ordered the Remus pipes from the Thruxton and hope to have them in a week or 2. Will take the db killers out for sure. Still up in the air about the x-pipe though. Time will tell.
I feel like the stock exhaust sounds the deepest, although higher frequencies will seem louder and you will be heard better. I like the deepest sounding exhausts in general tho, awesome video
Video in the works of me trying it out without the baffles / dB killers. It’s much different now!
@@AdamCroll cool ill check it out, I saw a video of someone who put a tec 2-1 on their speed twin and it sounds awesome too
Hi Adams nice video I have a doubt I have vance and Hines euro version in India how do u remove the baffle
TEC X pipe is worth the faffing around. 3 hours with someone who knows what their doing with all the right tools and it’s always the last clamp that fights back. Sounds good even with the standard cans plus a bit of weight saving.
Great video fantastic bike. The dealership has now delivered my speed twin 🇬🇧👍
Hi, Adam. Thanks for share your VDO.
Best sound with stock exaust
Great work. One of the best Triumph exhaust videos I’ve seen 👍🏻
I love this Bike it sounds great, I have a Trophy with a Carbon Delkavic slip on exhaust, most likely cut about 20 lb of the bike and the triple sounds madder than hell at about 9000 RPM :-)
In the final comparison starting at 18:45, the stock exhaust clearly sounds deeper and, at least to me, better. The V&H and the V&H + X pipe have a higher pitch and less refined sound. I'm not against performance mods and if the V&H + X pipe gives you a feel, (you claim it has more torque), that's great. But from a sound perspective, at least from the perspective you shot in the video, stock wins IMHO.
In person it’s better! It’s hard to translate the difference in bass through the microphone to computer speakers or phone 📲 speakers!
Adam Croll
I have a similar set up on my Speed Twin. X pipe and V&H silencers. What I have found is the there is a lot popping on a closed throttle. Now I quite like that up to a point but feel it is excessive and somewhat spoils the ride. I have fitted a booster plug but find this makes absolutely no difference. Enjoyed your videos.
I would like to inquire about the specifications of the graphite gasket for this exhaust. The tail section of my bike's exhaust pipe is a bit loose
@adamcroll I'm curious what's inside the stock exhaust tips? I wonder if you drilled out those rivets could you remove any baffeling or make straight pipes out of them? I have a 2021 speed twin (Not the new 2021), I just got it. I have the xpipe on order. I'm interested in various aftermarket ends, but they're all really pricey. Wondering if you could DIY the stock tips?
Hi Stephen...little late to respond but if you haven't got that far...I
I have a '22 Speed Twin and actually like the stock sound. I like it even better after I took the baffles out. Super easy job on the US model. Once the the tack weld on the retaining screw was ground off with a dremel, the baffles should slide ride out. Mine were a bit to tight to just slide out but i made a little j hook jig that pulled them right out with out having to pry on them...super easy. I am waiting on a Freespirits XL pipe and want to see how it sounds with the decat and the stock pipes without the baffles. Might be able to keep it less expensive without having to buy pipes if the stockers sound good enough without the baffles.
I'm doing the decat now. HOLY SHIT this is a pain in the ass!
Yes it is, I cut out a ton of swearing in my video! Lol
I'm doing custom ss pipes straight to OEM cans !
Cheers
X-Pipe with stock exhaust. 👌
I bought the Tec X-Pipe a year ago for my speed twin. I'm not sure i I should fit it or not. I'm living in Spain and they check emissions here for the MOT (ITV). This means I would have to reinstall the cat every time I get my bike tested. I'm not sure if the time it would take is worth it.
Thanks for making the video man, new pipes sound great! I'll be picking up a Speed Twin soon, keep up the good work!
Nice video. Seek looking shocking but great insight.
Amazing sound. Thanks for sharing this..
Congrats from Brasil
Dude, I hate to tell you this but stock exhaust sounds the best, IMHO. Glad you like the new set-up though. Ride her vigorously.
Update to the video coming soon with the baffling out / dB killers. Way different now!
looking forward to hearing that
Good video! I love my speed twin!
Great video other than...Why didn't you take the baffles out before you did the X-pipe and again why not do a sound comparison with and without the baffles after you fitted the X-pipe???
Nice touch. A little too quiet. Back in the day we would take out baffles, install a small Bates headlight, toss any turn signals, if it had them....or get them small and close in. Those rear signals look good. ....low drag bars, no or very short front fender....love those parallel twins.....Matchless, Triumph, BSA, ..... then Honda came to town and opened up a huge bike lot....thirty or so to see, instead of two or six bikes. Thanks
Well that comment digressed quickly. 😂
@@Accurize2 seems so. Different generations…. !
no need to do the air cleaner the stock filter set up flows more air then the engine can use also you need to reset the ecu start the bike and let idle DO NOT TOUCH THE THROTTLE after the fan comes on and cycles off turn off the engine then your good
TEC parts makes a cam that will bump up the hp to 114 it is the same grind that is used for the collector edition thruxton
What is the link or part number to the cam? Could not find it on the website
@@atlbikenight shop.tecbikeparts.com/t/watercooled-performance
the USA web site is not very well run this is the UK site but they have said all parts are available in the US.
Personally I prefer the deep note of the stock TBH, wonder if there is any real HP difference.
good morning, what size are the screws of the tilting reels. min 1:15 - 1:30
The X pipe decat & stock silencers should do the trick.
Hey Adam,how about installing the tech bike performance cam to the speed twin. It would be a good project and I would to see what difference it makes to the bike.Cheers.
I will install that some day for sure!
Why didn’t you put the Arrow pipes on. They were designed in conjunction with the Triumph factory?
So were these, they have a triumph logo embossed on each silencer. I’ve always been a fan of V&H pipes given the choice I’d pick V&H over arrow anyway.
Currently, only V&H are available for the speed twin as oem.
@@AdamCroll He meant the headers. You wouldn't need an X pipe in that case.
Great looking bike and seat. I know I'm whining but can't we get Thruxton R forks and shocks on this bike? That would be perfect.
Also, sounds great. Worthy upgrade.
@Adam Croll Hi, Adam, when you installed the X Pipe, did the bike sounds more raspy to you? Almost like an exhaust leak where the X Pipe connects? I felt around and don't seem to feel any exhaust leaks but wanted to see what you experience was when you installed it.
I wouldn’t describe it as raspy, at least not in an exhaust leak kind of way, I’d say it’s more of a deep visceral bass sound improvement for mine, in my opinion of corse. Everyone’s ears are different though. As long as you can’t find a leak then I guess it’s up to your opinion of the sound, and of corse every slip on exhaust will change it as well.
Adam Croll Ok thanks, I will go and check everything again and make sure I didn’t make any mistakes. The throttle is smoother after the additional of the booster plug and this X Pipe, both of which I did thanks to your videos. SC project exhaust cans are on the way. Thanks for the reply!
Personally I think the stock pipes sound better.... but then I’ve just put thruxton pipes on mine ..... purely for the look .... glad you like them ....ps get a ramp sir , makes life soooooooo easy ...regards Fred
I had British Customs slip on pipes on my 900 Thruxton, couldn't believe the weight saving, are the V&H pipes much lighter.
What do you think of the Remus exhausts compared to the V&H for the speed twin?
I haven’t heard one yet, I am glad the aftermarket is ramping up and making more choices for us though!
What socket did you use for the two engine bolts? Torx?
Great video. Very detailed and clarifying. Thanks for that. Question about something I am experiencing dow here in Rio de Janeiro/Brazil that I would like to know if you have the same perception. So, here is very hot and engine temperature is some kind uncomfortable. So, did you feel any reduction of engine temperature around the legs spot mainly when the radiato´s ventilators are on? (most sensible on traffic jams). Thank you very much
I could not tell any difference but here in LA I can feel that heat any time I’m in heavy traffic for sure!
3:44 Best sound ever!!!🤣😂😅
Would you take the 2022 newer model speed twin 1200 over the previous 2019 model with an exhaust or suspension upgrade ?
awesome video man! Love the format. Glad you removed the catalytic converter. I own a street twin and removed my cat and its 99.99% the same process. Was laughing at you curse the process out. HAHA I had the same reaction but in the end its so worth it.
Also Put a high flow air filter in
How long before we get smog checks for motorcycles here in Cali?
Note the work-around with third party shipping just getting the cat delete.
I’m hoping never! Haha it’s probably inevitable though 😫
Your right. I collect motorcycles. I can see it happening .
@@glengerdes2447 If you really like to experiment and build you own, you just have to own old stuff. BTW, do you know that when they passed the smog inspection law, it was supposed to be a rolling 30 year window. Yet in 2005 when the 1976 models would roll out of the 30 year window, our lying swine legislators repealed the 30 year rolling window and froze the date at 1975 and earlier.
Emission testing has ended for all vehicles in Washington 2020 !
DB issues upheld by individual municipalities !!
Speeding enforced mostly by photo !
Cheers
Well done!! Love that year of tank paint. Do you think that tank would be a direct fit to a new 2023 Speed Twin?
Are you going to take the baffles out? Would be nice to hear it
I might eventually try it, I’m imagining it will be too loud though 🤔
Can you remove baffles on the V&H? I thought they were fixed. Also Adam is the sound difference noticeable? I was thinking of fitting an Xpipe on my Thruxton R. Its difficult to tell just how loud it gets on UA-cam vids. Still only standard cans atm though.
Bohemoth I think the US have removable baffles and UK/EU are fixed
Man, that's way more dinkin' around than George did on the Tec Bike Parts video. I'm sort of rethinking doing a decat!
It's not that hard. Really worth it or I have seen whole new exhaust recently that runs straight over to the other. Lots more money though.
@@scottyporter6093 I actually did one, using the Motone X-pipe. I'm confident I could do another one in under 2 hours.
Adam, thanks for the video. I see you removed the tank. on the tec-bike website video, they did not? just curious if it was a necessary step to install the X-Pipe? thanks
It ended up being easier for me but yes it seems you don’t have to.
Where can I buy the Vance and Hines slip on
After I put a water pump on my Corvette I think I said the same thing
Nice vid Adam loved the way you couldn't wait to open the package, reminded me of my kids on Christmas Day.Realy like your tail tidy can you post a link regards Robbie Wales UK
X pipe made it crispy
Do any of these mods void the factory warranty?
Not 100% sure but if it does I’ll put it back to stock if I ever need a warranty claim.
Anything you do CAN void the factory warranty, but they'd have to prove your mods caused the failure. Like, changing the exhaust pipe didn't cause the brakes to fail or the oil pump to seize, etc.
Did you end up smelling like exhaust fumes when you took the x pipe off?
Nice video, thanks. Do you still have your right side can? I dropped my bike and need one.
Hey Adam where did you get the x pipe?
I kind prefer the sound of the stock pipe
At some point, will you have to put the catalytic converter back on for registration?
No, it is technically illegal to remove it but there is a lack of enforcement. Motorcycles don’t have to have inspections at any time even if sold to a new owner. Only issue for me would be if I needed engine warranty work.
@@AdamCroll Is there no smog test needed at some point?
No smog laws for motorcycles yet. Hopefully never!
@@AdamCroll gotcha. Thanks for the info!
Did you happen to do a dB comparison between the stock and Vance & Hines?
The stock pipes do sound better….Deeper more pleasing sound…
How much weight have you taken off your speed twin? Have you swapped out the battery for a lithium one?
Would it make a difference if I removed catalytic converter and installed nex x pipe from the other side of the bike? Not the side where the kickstand is.
Im sure that would work, I did have to loosen both sides of the frame rails to give myself enough room to get it out though. So either side should be ok!
Thank you! I don't have a rear stand and I didnt want to put a small scissor jack on the oil pan. Love the videos, keep them coming!
You don’t need to remap with the Xpipe on the speed twin right?
Was wandering this too?
Clutch in to start, Mate.....😄. Thanks for a great video👍
It's not live sound I'm hearing but the stock has more low mid frequency & a deeper bark to it which is my preference. The mod has more clarity to the sound but not as much a classic Triumph exhaust note rumble IMO. BUT this "torque" aspect to the mod you mentioned is another deal maker to consider. Is it? Well done Adam!
Main reason for Vance and Hines is the looks but then you didn't give us a shot of the looks difference.
Also could you list which tools I need for each job?
@@MrKdr500managed to do it myself and learned a new skill! What were you saying ?
I was thinking about stock exhaust with x pipe. Thoughts?
Everyone thinks that’s the way to go! As far as cost (saving $)
Bypass the xB or manifold ?
Very nice seat, is it deeper than the original?
So stock pipes and a decat will do the trick? 🙏👌🏼Trying to save $$$😜
Yes I think that would sound almost the same!!
yes, exactly
@@AdamCroll Thanks. And keep up the documentation of the evolution of your beautiful bike 💙
Yes it will. Mine sounds great with just the TEC de-cat added.
@@alm4132 did the same and the results are brilliant 👍
Nice vidéo. How is the sound with x-pipe and stock silencers ?
He didn't check that unfortunately ! For the price of the x-pipe, I think it's not mandatory to put those V&H slip ons. On any 2 cylinder Triumph bike, you could improve the sound and response just by removing the cat converter which is very restrictive.
@@MrToonfish OK, thanks.
Adam. Did you have to check the fueling after the x pipe? Did you experience any disruption or chnage to the map by triumph ? Thanks man
Did you have to get a tune.... After the x pipe installation
First I did a booster plug, then I removed that and did a ecu flash.
Where did you buy the Vans and Hines. I can't find them online...
From my dealership directly from triumph.
Nice set up. Just fitted the same x-pipe to my speed twin this evening. You mention torquing everything up... where have you found the torque settings for the frame bolts? Can’t find them anywhere. Cheers. 👍🏻
I used thruxton torque numbers 😛
@@AdamCroll I used an impact gun!
Riders ! There is a standard torque scale per bolt size available on the web / dealer . Default your owners/manufacturers shop manuals.
Cheers
How much weight did you save? I’m curious if you weighed the slip ons and x-pipe before you put them on and weighed the stock mufflers and cat after you took them off. I went to a Triumph dealership yesterday to look at this exact bike and I definitely think this will be my first upgrade. Also thinking about ohlins on the rear.
Is there any way to fit a centre stand ??
Adam, where did you purchase your rear bobbings from ????
Amazon! the triumph thread is 8mm. here is a link: amzn.to/2RCnrQu
How would one get the x-piped shipped to CA for off-road use of course?
I had it sent to my sister in Colorado, then she shipped it to me.
I had mine shipped to my sister in Pennsylvania. She sent it to me in California.
Fuck that ! Do what ever you want to your bike !! Do you have emission testing for motorcycle s there ?
Rubbish!!
Would you recommend a power commander if I were to change the air filter too? And what do you think about wrapping the exhaust?
I don’t think this bike needs the help from a power commander, in another video I do change the air filter out for more air flow. I personally hate the way exhaust wrap looks, so I avoid it even if it does lock in some of the heat!
@@AdamCroll Would you atleast suggest a dyno tune one time if I do the whole exhaust set up you've done as well as an air filter on the speed twin? Also, I'm fine with the looks, but I've heard that wrapping can actually be bad for the bike in the long run. I aim to die old, but still on my bike. Do you know anything abou that?
I’ve never done a dunk run on any bikes, it would be cool to know what’s going on with the performance. Everything I’ve read says the triumphs ECU adapts pretty well on its own.
adam, the stock exhaust is the original from the speed twin? if yes, why the vnh sounds nearly the same with the original one?
Would removing the cat effect emissions? Here in the U.K. any vehicle once it reaches three years old must have a test every twelve months including emissions.
So far in the US motorcycles are exempt from emissions testing. Keeping my fingers crossed that it stays that way!
Motorcycles in the UK do not undergo emissions testing in the MOT.
So Sad !! Here in Washington state, all emission s testing ending 2020 ! Motorcycles were never included !
So, if you weren't concerned with warranties/ contracts of service , motifications/ performance upgrades are possible shortly after taking possession . If you know what you're doing/ builder , these bikes are great candidates for all sorts of improvements.
Cheers
Hows the sound with stock exhaust + x pipe?
I never tested that as I put the silencers on first. But from what I’ve been told it’s almost the same tone and sound. The V&H pipes just look better (IMO) probably not worth the extra money though.
Nice job!!
I'm curious about octane before and after the decat, booster plug and exhaust mods. I know the manual recommends 87 but California being what it is, I'm wondering what you run and if you've tried 89 and 91. Any issues? Performance improvement?
I’ve tried 89 on a few occasions and did not notice any difference.
I couldn’t find the VH for speed twin online, can you provide the site you bought it from? Appreciate it.
I purchased directly from my dealership