I see a lot of Uub comments. Based on how 17, 18, and Yamcha are dressed, this should take place within weeks of Buu being defeated. Humans need a bit more time to go from a single cell to several trillion. Then again, Vegeta's power level was like 20,000 as like a sperm, so y'know.
Well can't answer who the strongest human is because Krillin is human but Tien is not he is from the three-eyed race which is not necessarily a human he is part human but he's a hybrid
@BMATRIX what does 18 being stronger than Tien have to do with Krillin? We don't even know if he sparred with her. Krillin got them cheats when he got his potential unlocked, but I like it and it doesn't bother me.
Krillen definitely did not keep up his training the way Tien did. Tien NEVER at any point stopped but Krillin most likely did for a good while as he became a parent.
the only way arc that tien would be krillin in is the 22 bodukai after that its krillin to prove it krillin fought goku in blue and managed to push the kamehameha slightly and when goku came to recruit tien he was training his disiples so u cant say he has been training non stop he might be but he has no one to train with other than choatzue and he got absolutely recked by master rochi and if u compare tien to krillin in super its not even fair i love tien but this fight is biased
@@SingularityAli. what the heck 23rd budokai would destroy Krillin. Tien was always stronger than Krillin. At a point Yamcha was stronger than Krillin, Yamcha had began his king kai training before Krillin got his potential unlocked, and was pretty equal to him in 23rd budokai.
@@accountnotusedanymore9119 ten is not even comparable to krillin now an easy comparison would be dragon ball super and yamacha was only stronger in the kid goku saga and even then krillin surpassed him.
@@SingularityAli. yea but technically Yamcha was stronger in Z as well. Yamcha had caught Bubbles before Krillin got his potential unlocked. So just for a few episodes, Yamcha was stronger.
@@accountnotusedanymore9119 first of all, that episode was a filler, so the fact that yamacha surpassed them means he was stronger than vegeta as well, and as I said its a filler
Tenshinhan was seen as behind only Goku and Piccolo up until the Saiyan Saga, where he had a higher PL than Krillin. While he presumably got stronger and got his potential unlocked by the Grand Elder Guru, Tenshinhan was actually in the Other World training on King Kai's planet. Tenshinhan was able to stop 2nd form Cell in his tracks while literally every non-saiyan was useless against him. During the 7 year timeskip Krillin gave up life as a fighter in favor of being a father and husband. Tenshinhan however always stayed true to the principle of training. Krillin just has a bigger following, which is why he's portrayed as the top dog among the humans in DBS.
The problem with the Neo tri beam feat is that it's not representative of Tien's actual power. The tri beam was stated in the original DB to be leagues higher in power output than the Kamehameha, which is why it can kill it's user. It was enough to stall and frustrate cell but not actually deal damage. Now if Tien actually used the Kaio-ken, he'd probably deal a little damage, but he would die for sure.
@@sonicjr53 That’s true, but in a no bars held match, Tien would beat Krillin. As long as he’s willing to kill him, Tien’s Neo-Tribeam would definitely have the power to defeat Krillin
It's Tien. Simple. He stayed relevant even in Buu saga (saving Gohan by deflecting a Buutenks blast). Even in non Canon showings (Bojack) Tien is pushing Trunks to SS1.
@@thunderlordabove420 Reincarnation or not... He was born to be full-blooded human. Doesn't matter what he was in a past life. That's like saying Goku was born a cricket on Freeza planet 113, but got killed and reincarnated into a Saiyan... He's still a Saiyan known as Kakarot/Goku, didn't matter his past life and no one would've known otherwise. Uub still isn't listed as the strongest human, even if he was born 100% human with no alien bloodline. He didn't unlock any sort of ability to fight until the last episode of Dragon Ball Z, which apparently took place some time after Super in terms of timeline. He wasn't in contention. And I am not going off of GT's storyline. As far as I'm concerned... Krillin is the strongest human, Yamcha is second and Uub potentially was third in line just above Mr. Satan.
@@Sprint2899No by the point Kid Buu was a thing, Fat Buu was out of him. You can argue there may have been some latent instinct left, but Kid Buu was trying to kill Hercule. His unorthodox groveling just thru Kid Buu off his game.
Tien vs cell. Tien vs super buu beam aiming for gohan. I highly doubt killing could compare. Tien never stopped training and krillin retired like 3 times
@@stephenquinn7931 kid goku* Which was also the weakest saiyan at that time. Even raditz who was supposed to be the weakest of the vegita group was a lot stronger then goku when they first met.
@@fe9335 still Vegeta has refused to let go of his rivalry despite the fact he has NEVER Beat Goku, even when all of Goku's previous rivals have just realised they can't beat him and moved on with their lives, also yamcha would be a better dad to Trunks then Vegeta ever will be
"Surely not Yamcha!" I swear, it's literally like these guys can't help but throw shots at Yamcha every chance they get. Shit is incredibly lame, and Mondo really should be ashamed of himself for showing a guy who, during the Buu saga, was shown (in the anime) to be practically equal to Krillin such unwarranted disrespect.
Thank You man! Desperate to impress the DBZtards who are responsible for the show's current state. It's like when will they learn, honestly! This shit had nothing to do with him man was just sipping his drink can't you just leave him be.
@@sarcasticsuperjerk18 No, it's not in good fun, and I don't have to calm down. The fact is the disrespect and disregard toward this character have been blatant and prevalent for decades. It's not "good fun" for people who are fans of the character, and who continue to have to endure the outright lies and slander against this character til this day.
@@Crimson_Titan You make it sound like it's a crime to poke fun at Yamcha. I'm a hardcore Yamcha fan, and I agree that the dude deserves _so_ much more than what he's already got. But I like to poke fun at him like many of us poke fun at other characters just for a laugh. Yamcha haters make no sense, babbling nonsense that Yamcha dies the most or he's the worst Z fighter (Goku and Krillin die the most, he's actually died the least with 2 deaths). Just find comfort in the fact Yamcha memes are dead, the people who still try to make them aren't funny, and move on.
@@dracopalm7240 horrible point. It clearly wasn’t a full power Kamehameha, so whatever transformation Goku was in was irrelevant. This is also the same Goku who sandbags in life or death fights, you really think he’s trying with Krillin? 😅
As stated in the manga by Yamcha to Marron, Krillin is the strongest human. Which he likely means Earthling considering all none-gods, or demons, are seen as humans in Dragon Ball.
Krillin: Stopped training/fighting and started a family. Tienshenhan: Lives his entire life around Martial Arts culture. Trains daily and takes his job as a Teacher who runs a Dojo very seriously. Logic: Krillin is somehow the more better fighter in the series. As someone who trains in both JKD and Kickboxing, I always felt that was such BS. For Saiyan character you can make up endless crap as to why someone is "Stronger". But come on, human characters? Yeah, yeah DB is fiction, but it's still stupid and makes no sense. Krillin is just better because he's best friends with the main character while Tein is dislike by the creator himself of all people. Human characters my @$$ LOL! Tein would destroy Krillin because Tein dove deep and continued to go further and improve. In an anime with HEAVY focus on fighting. It always irritated how Krillin is viewed as world strongest human but Tein actually is a better fight in reality. That's like saying: Player A is better than Player B at a video games but Player A is the one using hacks and has a modified controller which easily give them advantages but hardly plays the game compared to Player B who understands the game very well and has hundreds of hours in playtime.
Tien knew he wouldnt be the strongest but he said he would push himself no matter what and be the greatest martial artist the world has ever known not the strongest but the best martial artist.
Because of Tien, Roshi quit. Now Roshi is just plot deviced to have been training off screen and suddenly surpass Tien and Krillin (Even that Jiren BS in the Manga for which I have a headcanon explanation)
@@ZeEnforcerGoku is a better martial artist tbh. Even Cell acknowledged his martial genius. Tien is perhaps Roshi’s greatest successor though as top martial artist on Earth
SAIYAN SAGA: TIEN Though they are both fairly close in power the Daizenshuu does say Tien had a slightly higher power-level when they fought Nappa than Krillin. However this can be up for speculation because all the Z-fighters were supressing their true power-levels, so their full power is unknown. What is known are their feats during battle against Nappa. Tien is the only fighter to engage Nappa, for a substantial period of time, alone, and with one hand. Though he is getting beaten, he is still fighting to the point Nappa says he's a "tough bastard". Krillin however mostly fights Nappa in a duo with Piccolo, therefore appearing stronger than what he actually is. Tien is brutalized far more than Krillin and takes more damage, yet stays in the fight until he kills himself. Krillin takes some damage but is later knocked out by the shockwave of Nappa's blast, which is not as impressive as Tien durability. Both Tien & Krillin nearly kill Nappa in their own ways. Krillin's attempt is impressive but it mostly plays on Nappa's stupidity and lack of knowledge of the Destructo-Disc, once Nappa realised how it worked, it posed no threat to him and was easily avoidable. Tien however nearly kills Nappa with raw power, Nappa is able to avoid it but does suggest afterward that it would've killed him had he not seen it coming, and even Vegeta is in shock of how much power Tien had. So even though Krillin's attempt was good, it was more him trying to outwit Nappa, while Tien was just going to annihilate him with sheer power, which I find more impressive. NAMEK/FRIEZA SAGA: KRILLIN: Once Krillin & Gohan get their potential unlocked on Namek, its suggested their power-level is about the same as Vegeta's was in the Saiyan Saga when he was on Earth (give or take) So if that is in anyway accurate that puts Krillin far above Tien at that time. Unless you count filler which in that case Tien is far stronger than Krilliin because he fights two members of the Ginyu-Force simultaneously and defeats them both on King Kai's planet, but in actual canon Krillin is stronger. ANDROID/CELL SAGA: TIEN After the three year preparation for the Androids it's unknown who's stronger, but I believe the story indicates Tien is stronger. When Yamcha is punched through the chest by Android 20 the first three people on the scene are Goku, Piccolo, and Tien. They are also the three that fly off to fight the Androids in the desert, which could mean nothing, but to me suggests those are the three strongest amongst that group (bar Vegeta & Trunks of course) But undoubtable the greatest feat Tien has is his performance against Semi-Perfect Cell. Krillin's punches didn't even make Semi-Perfect Cell flinch, he just stood there and smiled. So the fact Tien could forcible hold Cell down and smash him into the ground over and over like that is not only the best thing Tien has ever done, its one of the impressive moments in DBZ. So in that moment Tien is far above Krillin. BUU SAGA: TIEN Seven years after Cell, Krillin has retired, its unknown if he's stronger or weaker than he was in the Cell saga, most likely Krillin has regressed rather than increased in strength. Tien however has gone into isolation, during that time, to do nothing but train. So its safe to assume Tien has increased in power, while krillin has probably decreased. Krillin is able to charge Super-Buu and stall for about 5 seconds, which is ultimately futile, but it is something. Tien on the other hand is able to deflect Buu-Tanks' blast saving Gohan, which is actually very impressive considering Buu-Tanks is stronger than both Ultimate Gohan & SSj3 Goku. So I believe Tien is stronger during this period. All in all I believe Tien is stronger than Krillin, despite popular opinion. In pure martial arts he was able to defeat Goku in a competition, and when it comes to power levels and feats 90% of the time his are better than krillins. Anything past DBZ I don't care about because DBS is trash.
@OHGAS because in the cell saga, goku was suppressed in ssj and he was asleep so he didn’t rais his ki because he didn’t expect it. And in super, goku didn’t want to kill the bandits so he heavily suppressed himself to like king piccolo level
something about the cadence in which you tell the story, reminds me of that episode of rick and morty where that guy wants morty to hear the story he wrote...
Counting only the canon (the manga made by Toriyama, not Dragon Ball Super or movies, specials or anime fillers): Before Saiyan saga: Tien > Krillin After the battle against Vegeta (including Freeza, Cell and Majin Boo sagas): Krillin > Tien End of the story (when Oob appears): debatable, but maybe Tien > Krillin
can you please do a series about piccolo? Why if Piccolo used the knowledge he gained from Kami, does he not have access to it? (I imagine there are many secrets in the Lookout like the room where he met the old gods. They might be able to teach Piccolo something) What if Piccolo fused with Guru? (would he get special techniques? could we still have perunga) What if Piccolo fused with all the Namekians? What if Piccolo fused with the 2 Namekians from universe 6? What if Dende fused with Guru, wouldn't this more or less save Guru? and 2 more on a different path: What if Piccolo performed the fusion dance with a clone of himself? If the old King Piccolo could lay eggs and make new Namekians, then if Piccolo fused with absolutely every other Namekian, couldn't he recreate the species and train them, then allow them to fuse and make some more, train those and continue this creating - training - fusing process untill he would build a race of imensly powerfull namekians, capable of defeating almost anyone.
I love this but I hate how they always overlook Yamcha. Let’s not forget Yamcha could beat Krillin in training. And officially surpassed Krillin in the Buu Arc.
@@aleksplavcev8044 Yamcha has not been Stronger than Krillin since the initial point of DB. That’s a long time. Tienshinhan, Yamcha & Krillin. Tienshinhan has “Always” and I do mean always been the Strongest of the 3. I got all the receipts. Despite that, Tienshinhan, Yamcha & Krillin have always been relative to each other power level wise. Meaning, no matter who the Strongest of the 3 is, they all can defeat each other. This has been showcased in DBZ when they are in training. In the training process, Yamcha has been seen matching, actually matching Tienshinhan, and outperforming Krillin. Even so, when it comes to their final day of training and ready to fight a new threat. Yamcha always is weaker than Krillin, no matter how close their power levels are. From Frieza Arc, Cell Arc & The Buu Arc. Krillin has without a doubt been stronger. However, The Buu Arc is the game changer. After, most of the Z fighters are killed by Super Buu. In Otherworld, a spiritual plane of existence. Yamcha & Krillin start training under King Kai. But this time, Yamcha emerges as the Stronger of the 2. He defeated Olibu, a very powerful fighter, and the other an unarmed fighter. Krillin’s dialogue also compliments Yamcha’s superior power level. Make no mistake, Any feat here you see Yamcha do, Krillin is capable of the same. To a varied degree. But the same nonetheless. We see Yamcha & Krillin fighting later on, this shows us they are still close in power level. Bout as close as Goten & Trunks were, prior to training in The Hyperbolic Time Chamber. After the boys received training in The H.B.T.C. their power leveled were equals 100% to achieve perfect harmony when fusing. It’s not a requirement, but it is the best result when achieving metamorian fusion. Somethin about Otherworld has a great influence over Supernatural fighters. It gives em the umph and edge they need to dedicate themselves to training, fighting and gettin stronger than ever. This is the motivation Yamcha needed in life. Evidence that this is true, is Goku reaching Super Saiyan 3 in Otherworld. Saiyans are born motivated to fight. So any Saiyan with a long duration of time in the afterlife, would only stand to gain tremendously stronger. If Vegeta spent 9 months in Otherworld, he’d be as Strong as Super Buu, no doubt. Yamcha & Krillin got a significant power boost in a very short time. Time moves differently in the spiritual realms, it would only make sense the influence under fighters is the same benefit, or more. Yamcha surpassing Krillin in the Buu arc is a big moment. But most fans never caught it do to remaining focused on the Saiyans.
Tien shouldve won not krillin in my opinion, krillin lives with 18 but he's human not saiyan and he trained for a few days with her while Tien never stopped training
Tien should be able to clap Krillin without Kaioken lmao he is always stronger than Krillin in Cell saga, Buu Saga. The only reasin Tien looks weak in DBS is because Toei hate him and love Krillin more since he is Goku's best friend.
Tien Shinhan is part of the Three-Eyed People which is a alien tribe. He's a human hybrid and not a pure human. Thus, making Krillin the strongest human in the Dragon Ball universe.
Tien is descendent from that race, but not a hybrid, not half, not fourth, not even 1/16th of that race, after all, in our real world: most humans have Neandarthal or Denisovan DNA, even Africans who were once believed to be pure Homosapiens, we recently learned that west Africans have an admixture in their DNA that is not pure human either, so unless you consider sub-saharan Africans to be the only humans on earth, I'd say Tien counts as a human. Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr (from that GT movie) are about 6% Saiyan, or 1/16th Saiyan, their kids however would be around 3% Saiyan, which is about the same Neandarthal DNA white people have, so their kids should count as humans, but not them.
Toriyama never said he was an alien. The 3 eyed clan can be humans who unlocked the third eye through meditation and training, since we do see him always meditating and training.
Tien or Krillin lets see: 22nd Budokai: Both Tien and Krillin fought Goku and Tien definitely lasted longer in his fight than Krillin did. King Piccolo: Krillin gets killed in one shot by Tambourine while Tien takes several hits from Drum who is stronger than Tambourine. Frieza: Krillin gets one shotted by Recoome while Tien is able to take both Jeice and Burter and wins.(Also before anyone says it's filler Toriyama approves it so yeah) Android/Cell: Krillin fights Imperfect Cell and doesn't do well and has to be saved by Tien and Piccolo, later Tien fights Semiperfect Cell and holds him down for a while. Buu: Krillin only rushes and throws one punch before being instant killed by Super Buu, Tien deflects a ki blast and dodges a attack from Gotenks Buu. There is no denying it Tien has always been stronger than Krillin.
Super: I'd do it but the anger is already elapsing. Borderline Krillin stomps. (I mean he beat Goku into Super saiyan.) Tien only did so in a movie which very well could fit into main continuity. (which I don't consider super part off.)
Wasnt krillin tired against Tambourine if we go by the manga Technically tien used a technique that could hold down cell it wasnt the fact he was stronger You are also not counting Super where Krillin did more then Tien
Actually that is true. 17 is the strongest human. No matter how you look at it, he's a human at core while being a cyborg. When it comes to biology he's more human than Tien since he's not an hybrid like him.
Tien never learned the Kaio-ken. I know it's a fan theory, but there's little to no proof King Kai even taught him the technique. Even in the video games. In Dragon Ball Xenoverse, both Krillin, and even Yamcha, are able to use Kaio-ken, yet Tien can't. (Krillin trained under King Kai briefly, after his death during the Buu Saga, in the anime) Neither Tien, Chiaotzu, or Piccolo have ever been shown using the technique in any media. Even if he could, there's more to a fight then raw power. The Kaio-ken is a dangerous technique, and using it in a long, drawn-out fight could prove fatal. Krillin could still win just by avoiding Tien long enough for the technique take it's toll. But it's a mute point regardless, because obviously Mr. Satan is the strongest human
I mean isn’t it obvious Tien doesn’t get any love in the series? You would think if anyone could use Kaio Ken it would be him since he trained with King Kai the longest and his 3rd eye is capable of learning a technique just by looking at it. Dragon ball Powerscaling & logic is a joke nowadays because of Toriyama, no point in taking it serious let’s be honest
Idk. Really. Solar flare, destrucro disk. Buts that just my opinion. I love this kinda stuff Also Japan hates Tien...sadly. hes really cool. I love most chatacters. Also their small triumphs
In my observation, while Tien is always training, his methods seem less effective. He primarily trains solo, and his only partner, Chiaotzu, is vastly weaker than him. In contrast, Krillin, despite his habit of not training during peaceful times, benefits from having a stronger training partner in Android 18. As shown in Dragon Ball, characters who train with someone stronger than themselves tend to grow more quickly and effectively.
Despite what Toriyama says about Krillin, anyone who has followed these 2 characters would know based off of the way they were written in the series, Tien would be the undisputed most powerful human due the the fact that he never stopped training. Krillin & Yamcha have both stopped training for years on multiple occasions.
@@hassankhalid8917 are we watching the same dragon ball Did you guys watch dragon ball super where roshi claps tien lol And krillin is out here cucking a fighter that cucked android 18
@@RanMaru144 Roshi could clap Krillin too. Android 18 hold back when she is training with Krillin. Also Tien is still stronger since he last longer in the tournament.
@@hassankhalid8917 ok this is false for many reasons Android 18 loses to a character that we wee visibly on screen krillin clap Also we see that roshi in the top refer to both krillin and goku as surpassing him in power made him train again but he still refers to them as superior to him and proud they became so strong
See, considering the Daizenshuu said the only users of Kaiou-Ken were King Kai, Goku and Tenshinhan... I'm inclined to believe Piccolo could NOT use the Kaiou-Ken. But just because he suppressed his ki like it was mentioned in the anime, and then just powered up to his max level. Also, glad the author knew that Tenshinhan used Kaiou-Ken in short bursts to turn his Kikohou into a Shin Kikohou, which is why he could handle Semi-Perfect Cell when Piccolo and 17 lost to the Imperfect version. But to be fair, I believe Tenshinhan is still physically stronger than Krillin too. There's a trope that's been used throughout all of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z in the animation studio for those who are stronger... Also, the fact that Tenshinhan had to rescue Krillin from his Cell Jr and was the only human standing - albeit worn out just like Piccolo, during the fight against them... Should be reason enough to believe he's stronger as well. Krillin is the STRONGEST Human, canonically... There's no debate about it... But Tenshinhan derives from the Triclops tribe that was mentioned in the Daizenshuu's early stages and back in Dragon Ball... Sadly nothing more came out of that backstory, but we know it's an alien race that landed on Earth. So Tenshinhan isn't a full-blooded human. Making Yamcha the second strongest human. Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Tenshinhan have human and alien DNA... And they never one refer to themselves or are referred to by "human". They've always been called "earthlings" - go back and read the manga... Not once were any of them "humans". Even when Napa and Vegeta show up, they addressed Krillin as a human when Napa scouted his power level, but called Tenshinhan an "earthling" after he arrived a bit later. But while Krillin is the strongest human, I refuse to believe that Tenshinhan is weaker. Especially if Krillin just doesn't train and it's stated by Akira Toriyama himself that in Super, the only warriors who never retired from training were Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and Tenshinhan. And don't get me started on Roshi being stronger than Tenshinhan... THAT is another can of worms altogether.
@@Hammy175 ... Read the Daizenshuu then... He's got alien blood. Krillin and Launch are full human. He's not. Akira Toriyama stated as much. Everyone knows this... He does have human blood, but again... Same category as Gohan, Goten and Trunks... Not fully human.
@Sky Dome uh based on what we see in z no his not lol look I know u probably like tien but krillin has always been portrayed to have the most potential out of the humans only thing that was holding him back was his personality hell he even did good against piccolo when he got over himself his self conscious And when he stops being self conscious and fights confidently his the clearly the better fighter
@@RanMaru144 but if you actually compared tien and krillin in dbz back in the android saga krillin was able to hold of cells first form for a bit cause cell wasn't as agile as krillin but tien was able to stop semi perfect cell to let 18 escape by using his neo tri beam and both tien and krillin where weaker than the androids for tien to hold off semi perfect cell and to also be weaker than the androids is crazy and back in the namek saga krillin got his ass kicked by recoome after unlocking his potential and in king kias planet tien could beat jeice and burter, if they where to fight back in dbz tien would've had the upper hand.
@Koala Wrath Maybe Tien meditated specifically to unlock his third eye. Regardless if I'm wrong, Toriyama never confirmee that Tenshinhan was an alien, just that he came from the Three-Eyed Clan. The Z Fighters were surprised when they found out Goku and Piccolo were aliens... not to mention DB is a world where dinosaurs walk the earth in a futuristic esque world where a dog is king of the Earth. Lol Tien isn't an Alien, he came from a clan of 3 eyed men, and anything else is an assumption that wasn't confirmed.
I kinda disagree with the notion that the humans could use kaio ken. Not because they were human, but because of the same reasons super saiyan goku couldn't use kaio's techniques. They obviously never said it, but the one difference between goku and the rest of the cast is that goku is the only one pure of heart but super saiyan goku wasn't. It's also why we never see super saiyan goku make a genki dama. I guess this is also why we see a return to kaio ken once goku uses the god ki.
The three eyed clan was never truly explained. Perhaps they were humans who unlocked their third eye through meditation and training, since you know Tien always meditates and always trains.
To be honest, Toriyamas statement of Krillin being stronger doesn't matter as we and all other fans can agree he stopped caring about the show after the Frieza saga so his statements don't really matter, tho RIP legend, also i can imagine Launch rooting for Tien in the background.
That limit breaker technique reminds of a move I made up, called spirit breaker, it doubles the power of you ki based attacks but drains your ki faster. It's manly used in short bursts.
Bro amount of training doesn't matter lol krillin just has more potential then tien Like logically tien trains all the time so he should be stronger then frieza but his not cause potential
@@awesomemonkey9736 dont really matter who deserves to be stronger what matters is who is stronger and its krillin as much as I dont want him to be it's just the facts of the situation
I see a lot of Uub comments. Based on how 17, 18, and Yamcha are dressed, this should take place within weeks of Buu being defeated. Humans need a bit more time to go from a single cell to several trillion. Then again, Vegeta's power level was like 20,000 as like a sperm, so y'know.
Uub is a reincarnation of Kid Buu
Well can't answer who the strongest human is because Krillin is human but Tien is not he is from the three-eyed race which is not necessarily a human he is part human but he's a hybrid
Nice TFS reference 😂
@@TrapGawdd lol
Nice reference
Logically tien never retired and lives for martial arts but toei loves krillen more so hes always going to get the shine
While krillin is my favourite character tien really deserves to be the stronger one simply because he never stopped
@BMATRIX what does 18 being stronger than Tien have to do with Krillin? We don't even know if he sparred with her. Krillin got them cheats when he got his potential unlocked, but I like it and it doesn't bother me.
@@albertgalan7829 of course he sparred with her i mean we even see it in dbs
@BMATRIX your telling me the guy who was so weak bullets could hurt him while tein went to train and your telling me krillin is stronger?
Some people are just naturally more talented regardless of hard work
Spoiler: The baldy won
Uh.....which one?
@@albertgalan7829 Master Roshi
@@OidBuddy piccolo
@@albertgalan7829 me
@@albertgalan7829 Stone Cold Steve austin...
This man really called chiaotzu tiens longtime hetero lifemate...
I had to play it back to make sure I wasn't trippin 😆🤦🏽♂️
Hey wish i had a hereto life-mate :(
@@Gamer420life I believe most people call them friends
Mr. Amazing yeah, one of those things!
and they were roommates
9:34 anyone notice Saitama drinking something while watching?
Lol i see it 🤣🤣
Battle of the strongest bald humans my ass ~ Saitama, whilst drinking juice box.
lol I saw it the moment it planned lol.
Meanwhile 17 is just doing park ranger duties, not even hearing about this until weeks later
Krillen definitely did not keep up his training the way Tien did. Tien NEVER at any point stopped but Krillin most likely did for a good while as he became a parent.
the only way arc that tien would be krillin in is the 22 bodukai after that its krillin to prove it krillin fought goku in blue and managed to push the kamehameha slightly and when goku came to recruit tien he was training his disiples so u cant say he has been training non stop he might be but he has no one to train with other than choatzue and he got absolutely recked by master rochi and if u compare tien to krillin in super its not even fair i love tien but this fight is biased
@@SingularityAli. what the heck 23rd budokai would destroy Krillin. Tien was always stronger than Krillin. At a point Yamcha was stronger than Krillin, Yamcha had began his king kai training before Krillin got his potential unlocked, and was pretty equal to him in 23rd budokai.
@@accountnotusedanymore9119 ten is not even comparable to krillin now an easy comparison would be dragon ball super and yamacha was only stronger in the kid goku saga and even then krillin surpassed him.
@@SingularityAli. yea but technically Yamcha was stronger in Z as well. Yamcha had caught Bubbles before Krillin got his potential unlocked. So just for a few episodes, Yamcha was stronger.
@@accountnotusedanymore9119 first of all, that episode was a filler, so the fact that yamacha surpassed them means he was stronger than vegeta as well, and as I said its a filler
Tenshinhan was seen as behind only Goku and Piccolo up until the Saiyan Saga, where he had a higher PL than Krillin. While he presumably got stronger and got his potential unlocked by the Grand Elder Guru, Tenshinhan was actually in the Other World training on King Kai's planet. Tenshinhan was able to stop 2nd form Cell in his tracks while literally every non-saiyan was useless against him. During the 7 year timeskip Krillin gave up life as a fighter in favor of being a father and husband. Tenshinhan however always stayed true to the principle of training. Krillin just has a bigger following, which is why he's portrayed as the top dog among the humans in DBS.
The problem with the Neo tri beam feat is that it's not representative of Tien's actual power. The tri beam was stated in the original DB to be leagues higher in power output than the Kamehameha, which is why it can kill it's user. It was enough to stall and frustrate cell but not actually deal damage. Now if Tien actually used the Kaio-ken, he'd probably deal a little damage, but he would die for sure.
@@sonicjr53 That’s true, but in a no bars held match, Tien would beat Krillin. As long as he’s willing to kill him, Tien’s Neo-Tribeam would definitely have the power to defeat Krillin
@OHGAS kienzan is beast but it has a 3 ft range as opposed to a 20-50ft range of the tri-beam.
@OHGAS krillin misses his disck like 90% of them time. Ive never seem tien miss a tri beam
@OHGAS Tien is immune to solar flare if you watched the og dragon ball
It's Tien. Simple. He stayed relevant even in Buu saga (saving Gohan by deflecting a Buutenks blast). Even in non Canon showings (Bojack) Tien is pushing Trunks to SS1.
@PhOnIXR7 you understand that Tien held off 2nd form cell. When did krillin surpass that level of strength?
@@jonytwobyfour4 jn super
@@jonytwobyfour4 krillin is comparable to 18 who is stronger than a super saiyan vegeta (lowballed) whos stronger than a base goku whos multiversal
@@dracopalm7240 whatcha dbs. Krillin is probably closer to puar than 18
Who is the strongest human? Tien vs Krillin
* Uub is typing *
Well uub is technically an ancient evil turned to human thing so not fully human or even human just a human line body
What about 17? He is not a android he is s Cyborg a human with robot parts.
@@midekunedano9026 still counts as mechanical
@@midekunedano9026 but yeah there's that
@@thunderlordabove420 Reincarnation or not... He was born to be full-blooded human. Doesn't matter what he was in a past life.
That's like saying Goku was born a cricket on Freeza planet 113, but got killed and reincarnated into a Saiyan... He's still a Saiyan known as Kakarot/Goku, didn't matter his past life and no one would've known otherwise.
Uub still isn't listed as the strongest human, even if he was born 100% human with no alien bloodline. He didn't unlock any sort of ability to fight until the last episode of Dragon Ball Z, which apparently took place some time after Super in terms of timeline. He wasn't in contention. And I am not going off of GT's storyline.
As far as I'm concerned... Krillin is the strongest human, Yamcha is second and Uub potentially was third in line just above Mr. Satan.
I'd pick Tien. the guy's underrated. Always have believed he was the strongest human.
By far. And more talented too. Being able to replicate a technique after seeing it just once? Are they mad? No human is better than Tien...
@@l0rd0gaming51 krillin is tho he dog walks tien easily
@@g3neralcross911 I you watched dragon ball in the very beginning, you'd understand why it makes no sense.
@@l0rd0gaming51 if you watched dbz and dbs you would understand how wrong you are
We all know Hercule is the stongest human. He literally dodged Kid Buu's attacks in the buu saga
Only cuz fat buu was still in him
@@Sprint2899No by the point Kid Buu was a thing, Fat Buu was out of him. You can argue there may have been some latent instinct left, but Kid Buu was trying to kill Hercule. His unorthodox groveling just thru Kid Buu off his game.
It’s satan stop using that butched censored English version of his name it’s actually Mr. Satan not hercule
@@israelduke327 people like you are the reason we cant enjoy jokes anymore
Tien vs cell. Tien vs super buu beam aiming for gohan. I highly doubt killing could compare. Tien never stopped training and krillin retired like 3 times
Neither, Yamcha is the multiverse's strongest
@BMATRIX Someone who's beat goku more times than Vegeta
@@stephenquinn7931 kid goku*
Which was also the weakest saiyan at that time. Even raditz who was supposed to be the weakest of the vegita group was a lot stronger then goku when they first met.
Everyone knows the Farmer with a shotgun is Stronger than Yamcha xD
@@betawarier346 farmer with a shotgun is not human, he is above us
@@fe9335 still Vegeta has refused to let go of his rivalry despite the fact he has NEVER Beat Goku, even when all of Goku's previous rivals have just realised they can't beat him and moved on with their lives, also yamcha would be a better dad to Trunks then Vegeta ever will be
This is an interesting issue to cover..!!!Thank you Mondo Cool for uloading this fantastic fan manga!!!
"Surely not Yamcha!" I swear, it's literally like these guys can't help but throw shots at Yamcha every chance they get. Shit is incredibly lame, and Mondo really should be ashamed of himself for showing a guy who, during the Buu saga, was shown (in the anime) to be practically equal to Krillin such unwarranted disrespect.
Thank You man! Desperate to impress the DBZtards who are responsible for the show's current state. It's like when will they learn, honestly! This shit had nothing to do with him man was just sipping his drink can't you just leave him be.
Finally A DBZ Fan With Sense
Calm down, I'm a bit frustrated too but sometimes it's just all in good fun.
@@sarcasticsuperjerk18 No, it's not in good fun, and I don't have to calm down. The fact is the disrespect and disregard toward this character have been blatant and prevalent for decades. It's not "good fun" for people who are fans of the character, and who continue to have to endure the outright lies and slander against this character til this day.
@@Crimson_Titan You make it sound like it's a crime to poke fun at Yamcha. I'm a hardcore Yamcha fan, and I agree that the dude deserves _so_ much more than what he's already got. But I like to poke fun at him like many of us poke fun at other characters just for a laugh. Yamcha haters make no sense, babbling nonsense that Yamcha dies the most or he's the worst Z fighter (Goku and Krillin die the most, he's actually died the least with 2 deaths). Just find comfort in the fact Yamcha memes are dead, the people who still try to make them aren't funny, and move on.
Yamcha crying in the background
Tien was thinking about frieza and how krillin took him on but krillin should think hmmm. Tien held off semi perfect cell lol
Krillin rivaled a kamehameha from super saiyan blue goku
@@dracopalm7240 horrible point. It clearly wasn’t a full power Kamehameha, so whatever transformation Goku was in was irrelevant. This is also the same Goku who sandbags in life or death fights, you really think he’s trying with Krillin? 😅
Is Tien really a human tho 🤔
Its like a state of peace he earned
Tien is a triclops but shares human triats
I just think tien just has one big pimple
@@VisionaryIntelligent uh no his a human with a triclops ancestor his mostly human with a distant ancestor triclops
No, he isn't.
Interesting video, I honestly always was wondering about this. :)
Awesome vid man. Great narration :D
As stated in the manga by Yamcha to Marron, Krillin is the strongest human. Which he likely means Earthling considering all none-gods, or demons, are seen as humans in Dragon Ball.
When people say Krillin is stronger than Tien I get seriously mad
he is in the sayain arc to the moro arc
Krillin: Stopped training/fighting and started a family.
Tienshenhan: Lives his entire life around Martial Arts culture. Trains daily and takes his job as a Teacher who runs a Dojo very seriously.
Logic: Krillin is somehow the more better fighter in the series.
As someone who trains in both JKD and Kickboxing, I always felt that was such BS. For Saiyan character you can make up endless crap as to why someone is "Stronger". But come on, human characters? Yeah, yeah DB is fiction, but it's still stupid and makes no sense. Krillin is just better because he's best friends with the main character while Tein is dislike by the creator himself of all people.
Human characters my @$$ LOL! Tein would destroy Krillin because Tein dove deep and continued to go further and improve. In an anime with HEAVY focus on fighting. It always irritated how Krillin is viewed as world strongest human but Tein actually is a better fight in reality. That's like saying:
Player A is better than Player B at a video games but Player A is the one using hacks and has a modified controller which easily give them advantages but hardly plays the game compared to Player B who understands the game very well and has hundreds of hours in playtime.
Tien knew he wouldnt be the strongest but he said he would push himself no matter what and be the greatest martial artist the world has ever known not the strongest but the best martial artist.
Because of Tien, Roshi quit. Now Roshi is just plot deviced to have been training off screen and suddenly surpass Tien and Krillin (Even that Jiren BS in the Manga for which I have a headcanon explanation)
@@ZeEnforcerGoku is a better martial artist tbh. Even Cell acknowledged his martial genius. Tien is perhaps Roshi’s greatest successor though as top martial artist on Earth
Been while since I've been here. Remember when you were at 12k subs. Boy you have grown up over the last year.
SAIYAN SAGA: TIEN
Though they are both fairly close in power the Daizenshuu does say Tien had a slightly higher power-level when they fought Nappa than Krillin. However this can be up for speculation because all the Z-fighters were supressing their true power-levels, so their full power is unknown. What is known are their feats during battle against Nappa. Tien is the only fighter to engage Nappa, for a substantial period of time, alone, and with one hand. Though he is getting beaten, he is still fighting to the point Nappa says he's a "tough bastard". Krillin however mostly fights Nappa in a duo with Piccolo, therefore appearing stronger than what he actually is. Tien is brutalized far more than Krillin and takes more damage, yet stays in the fight until he kills himself. Krillin takes some damage but is later knocked out by the shockwave of Nappa's blast, which is not as impressive as Tien durability.
Both Tien & Krillin nearly kill Nappa in their own ways. Krillin's attempt is impressive but it mostly plays on Nappa's stupidity and lack of knowledge of the Destructo-Disc, once Nappa realised how it worked, it posed no threat to him and was easily avoidable. Tien however nearly kills Nappa with raw power, Nappa is able to avoid it but does suggest afterward that it would've killed him had he not seen it coming, and even Vegeta is in shock of how much power Tien had. So even though Krillin's attempt was good, it was more him trying to outwit Nappa, while Tien was just going to annihilate him with sheer power, which I find more impressive.
NAMEK/FRIEZA SAGA: KRILLIN:
Once Krillin & Gohan get their potential unlocked on Namek, its suggested their power-level is about the same as Vegeta's was in the Saiyan Saga when he was on Earth (give or take) So if that is in anyway accurate that puts Krillin far above Tien at that time. Unless you count filler which in that case Tien is far stronger than Krilliin because he fights two members of the Ginyu-Force simultaneously and defeats them both on King Kai's planet, but in actual canon Krillin is stronger.
ANDROID/CELL SAGA: TIEN
After the three year preparation for the Androids it's unknown who's stronger, but I believe the story indicates Tien is stronger. When Yamcha is punched through the chest by Android 20 the first three people on the scene are Goku, Piccolo, and Tien. They are also the three that fly off to fight the Androids in the desert, which could mean nothing, but to me suggests those are the three strongest amongst that group (bar Vegeta & Trunks of course)
But undoubtable the greatest feat Tien has is his performance against Semi-Perfect Cell. Krillin's punches didn't even make Semi-Perfect Cell flinch, he just stood there and smiled. So the fact Tien could forcible hold Cell down and smash him into the ground over and over like that is not only the best thing Tien has ever done, its one of the impressive moments in DBZ. So in that moment Tien is far above Krillin.
BUU SAGA: TIEN
Seven years after Cell, Krillin has retired, its unknown if he's stronger or weaker than he was in the Cell saga, most likely Krillin has regressed rather than increased in strength. Tien however has gone into isolation, during that time, to do nothing but train. So its safe to assume Tien has increased in power, while krillin has probably decreased. Krillin is able to charge Super-Buu and stall for about 5 seconds, which is ultimately futile, but it is something. Tien on the other hand is able to deflect Buu-Tanks' blast saving Gohan, which is actually very impressive considering Buu-Tanks is stronger than both Ultimate Gohan & SSj3 Goku. So I believe Tien is stronger during this period.
All in all I believe Tien is stronger than Krillin, despite popular opinion. In pure martial arts he was able to defeat Goku in a competition, and when it comes to power levels and feats 90% of the time his are better than krillins. Anything past DBZ I don't care about because DBS is trash.
I like always tien more than krillin cause tien kept training.
@BMATRIX he can be harmed by bullets
@BMATRIX krillen did retire, his entire character arc in super was him getting back im shape
@OHGAS yeah cause he was slacking and not training like goku
@OHGAS because in the cell saga, goku was suppressed in ssj and he was asleep so he didn’t rais his ki because he didn’t expect it. And in super, goku didn’t want to kill the bandits so he heavily suppressed himself to like king piccolo level
@BMATRIX good bro I am with u
I actually was wondering about this, thanks for the answer
9:45
I'm just gonna leave it here for you guys to find
Saitama 😂
I like how fan mangas arent trying to push powerlevels to the extreme
something about the cadence in which you tell the story, reminds me of that episode of rick and morty where that guy wants morty to hear the story he wrote...
krillin having that epic fight with that panda guy was pretty cool in the moro arc. i hope we continue to see good things from him
Well explained. 👍🏾👍🏾
Could i get an explanation of what limit breaker is ?
Plus Krillen has his potential unleashed when he was with elder Namek
Counting only the canon (the manga made by Toriyama, not Dragon Ball Super or movies, specials or anime fillers):
Before Saiyan saga: Tien > Krillin
After the battle against Vegeta (including Freeza, Cell and Majin Boo sagas): Krillin > Tien
End of the story (when Oob appears): debatable, but maybe Tien > Krillin
Generally speaking humans have two eyes and one nose.
So it can be neither tien nor krillin lol!
So Yamcha is the strongest human?
@@TheDevilFox. no, the world champion who beaten both cell and buu, the man himself SATAN!
@@kanadaafrika9469 Mr Satan dosnt count since he is a god
@@Ridisword satan is a satan not a god
If only Tien (and Piccolo) had the Kaioken in the main series.
I’ll always say Tien is stronger then krillin
And you’ll always be wrong
And you’ll always be right
And you will always be right
And I’ll always say the opposite lol
Personality is part of a character's strength. Tien has no personality thus Krillin is the strongest.
9:39 idk why the bald guy in the crowd looks like saitama
No way, Yamcha's wolf fang fist is #1, only in heart :'(
Tien isn’t human but he is stronger than krillin
A direct link to read this awesome fan manga (In English) would be nice.
Just asking for a friend.
9:35 is that saitama sipping from a cup.
You forgot about Yamcha
9:39 u can see Saitama spectating drinking his juice 😂
Yamcha is the strongest because he's the best ball player there is end of story.
can you please do a series about piccolo?
Why if Piccolo used the knowledge he gained from Kami, does he not have access to it? (I imagine there are many secrets in the Lookout like the room where he met the old gods. They might be able to teach Piccolo something)
What if Piccolo fused with Guru? (would he get special techniques? could we still have perunga)
What if Piccolo fused with all the Namekians?
What if Piccolo fused with the 2 Namekians from universe 6?
What if Dende fused with Guru, wouldn't this more or less save Guru?
and 2 more on a different path:
What if Piccolo performed the fusion dance with a clone of himself?
If the old King Piccolo could lay eggs and make new Namekians, then if Piccolo fused with absolutely every other Namekian, couldn't he recreate the species and train them, then allow them to fuse and make some more, train those and continue this creating - training - fusing process untill he would build a race of imensly powerfull namekians, capable of defeating almost anyone.
I love this but I hate how they always overlook Yamcha. Let’s not forget Yamcha could beat Krillin in training. And officially surpassed Krillin in the Buu Arc.
Officially surpassed Krillin ?...
@@aleksplavcev8044 Yamcha has not been Stronger than Krillin since the initial point of DB. That’s a long time. Tienshinhan, Yamcha & Krillin. Tienshinhan has “Always” and I do mean always been the Strongest of the 3. I got all the receipts.
Despite that, Tienshinhan, Yamcha & Krillin have always been relative to each other power level wise. Meaning, no matter who the Strongest of the 3 is, they all can defeat each other.
This has been showcased in DBZ when they are in training. In the training process, Yamcha has been seen matching, actually matching Tienshinhan, and outperforming Krillin. Even so, when it comes to their final day of training and ready to fight a new threat. Yamcha always is weaker than Krillin, no matter how close their power levels are. From Frieza Arc, Cell Arc & The Buu Arc. Krillin has without a doubt been stronger.
However, The Buu Arc is the game changer. After, most of the Z fighters are killed by Super Buu. In Otherworld, a spiritual plane of existence. Yamcha & Krillin start training under King Kai. But this time, Yamcha emerges as the Stronger of the 2. He defeated Olibu, a very powerful fighter, and the other an unarmed fighter.
Krillin’s dialogue also compliments Yamcha’s superior power level. Make no mistake, Any feat here you see Yamcha do, Krillin is capable of the same. To a varied degree. But the same nonetheless.
We see Yamcha & Krillin fighting later on, this shows us they are still close in power level. Bout as close as Goten & Trunks were, prior to training in The Hyperbolic Time Chamber. After the boys received training in The H.B.T.C. their power leveled were equals 100% to achieve perfect harmony when fusing. It’s not a requirement, but it is the best result when achieving metamorian fusion. Somethin about Otherworld has a great influence over Supernatural fighters. It gives em the umph and edge they need to dedicate themselves to training, fighting and gettin stronger than ever. This is the motivation Yamcha needed in life. Evidence that this is true, is Goku reaching Super Saiyan 3 in Otherworld. Saiyans are born motivated to fight. So any Saiyan with a long duration of time in the afterlife, would only stand to gain tremendously stronger. If Vegeta spent 9 months in Otherworld, he’d be as Strong as Super Buu, no doubt.
Yamcha & Krillin got a significant power boost in a very short time. Time moves differently in the spiritual realms, it would only make sense the influence under fighters is the same benefit, or more.
Yamcha surpassing Krillin in the Buu arc is a big moment. But most fans never caught it do to remaining focused on the Saiyans.
All I care about is these two using the potara earrings to make Kien or Trillin or Tenshillin.
"Who is the strongest human? Tien vs Krillin!"
*Yamcha left the chat*
*Saitama entered the chat*
by the end of super it was confirmed tht krillin is the strongest human followed by tien then roshi so there is no debate
Tien shouldve won not krillin in my opinion, krillin lives with 18 but he's human not saiyan and he trained for a few days with her while Tien never stopped training
Tien should be able to clap Krillin without Kaioken lmao he is always stronger than Krillin in Cell saga, Buu Saga. The only reasin Tien looks weak in DBS is because Toei hate him and love Krillin more since he is Goku's best friend.
but... Tien isnt human though? Everything else is neat though.
Sams
Tien Shinhan is part of the Three-Eyed People which is a alien tribe. He's a human hybrid and not a pure human. Thus, making Krillin the strongest human in the Dragon Ball universe.
I came for this comment. In two ways...
Tien is descendent from that race, but not a hybrid, not half, not fourth, not even 1/16th of that race, after all, in our real world: most humans have Neandarthal or Denisovan DNA, even Africans who were once believed to be pure Homosapiens, we recently learned that west Africans have an admixture in their DNA that is not pure human either, so unless you consider sub-saharan Africans to be the only humans on earth, I'd say Tien counts as a human.
Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr (from that GT movie) are about 6% Saiyan, or 1/16th Saiyan, their kids however would be around 3% Saiyan, which is about the same Neandarthal DNA white people have, so their kids should count as humans, but not them.
Toriyama never said he was an alien. The 3 eyed clan can be humans who unlocked the third eye through meditation and training, since we do see him always meditating and training.
Wait, so youre telling me, that it could have been possible that yamcha was the strongest human in the 23rd tournament? Im just saying possible
Tien or Krillin lets see:
22nd Budokai: Both Tien and Krillin fought Goku and Tien definitely lasted longer in his fight than Krillin did.
King Piccolo: Krillin gets killed in one shot by Tambourine while Tien takes several hits from Drum who is stronger than Tambourine.
Frieza: Krillin gets one shotted by Recoome while Tien is able to take both Jeice and Burter and wins.(Also before anyone says it's filler Toriyama approves it so yeah)
Android/Cell: Krillin fights Imperfect Cell and doesn't do well and has to be saved by Tien and Piccolo, later Tien fights Semiperfect Cell and holds him down for a while.
Buu: Krillin only rushes and throws one punch before being instant killed by Super Buu, Tien deflects a ki blast and dodges a attack from Gotenks Buu.
There is no denying it Tien has always been stronger than Krillin.
Super: I'd do it but the anger is already elapsing. Borderline Krillin stomps. (I mean he beat Goku into Super saiyan.) Tien only did so in a movie which very well could fit into main continuity. (which I don't consider super part off.)
@@powerjolt7215 that's bad power scaleing goku supose to beat him in base in the same show goku punched krllin across the earth that stuff was funny
He it also was a draw between him and goku but tien won
Wasnt krillin tired against Tambourine if we go by the manga
Technically tien used a technique that could hold down cell it wasnt the fact he was stronger
You are also not counting Super where Krillin did more then Tien
Actually that is true.
17 is the strongest human.
No matter how you look at it, he's a human at core while being a cyborg.
When it comes to biology he's more human than Tien since he's not an hybrid like him.
Tien: Hey Krillin, I like your hair
Krillin: Right back at ya Tien
Tien: Thanks, my mom does my hair
Well, with the ToP Arc, it'd have to be assumed Roshi's the strongest currently.
Androids don't count.
By tournament standards, wouldn’t Mr Satan be the strongest?
When you are so early that the only joke in comments are you
Okay but imagine how busted a SSGSS Goku 20x kaioken TRI bream would be
Tien never learned the Kaio-ken. I know it's a fan theory, but there's little to no proof King Kai even taught him the technique. Even in the video games. In Dragon Ball Xenoverse, both Krillin, and even Yamcha, are able to use Kaio-ken, yet Tien can't. (Krillin trained under King Kai briefly, after his death during the Buu Saga, in the anime) Neither Tien, Chiaotzu, or Piccolo have ever been shown using the technique in any media.
Even if he could, there's more to a fight then raw power. The Kaio-ken is a dangerous technique, and using it in a long, drawn-out fight could prove fatal. Krillin could still win just by avoiding Tien long enough for the technique take it's toll.
But it's a mute point regardless, because obviously Mr. Satan is the strongest human
I mean isn’t it obvious Tien doesn’t get any love in the series? You would think if anyone could use Kaio Ken it would be him since he trained with King Kai the longest and his 3rd eye is capable of learning a technique just by looking at it. Dragon ball Powerscaling & logic is a joke nowadays because of Toriyama, no point in taking it serious let’s be honest
I'm disappointed. There was so much more talking than actual fighting and that Krillin didn't even go out with a bang against Tien.
Krillin: Lets go tien
Tien: This wont be easy Krillin
Yamcha: Hey you forgot the most important Z Fighter
No, stabs through chest
Fun fact: The Z-Fighters actually begged Yamcha not to participate due to the fact that the Tournament would lack any sort of challenge if he did.
Another Fun Fact: Yamcha beat Oozaru Goku ^^
Idk. Really. Solar flare, destrucro disk. Buts that just my opinion. I love this kinda stuff
Also Japan hates Tien...sadly. hes really cool. I love most chatacters. Also their small triumphs
In my observation, while Tien is always training, his methods seem less effective. He primarily trains solo, and his only partner, Chiaotzu, is vastly weaker than him. In contrast, Krillin, despite his habit of not training during peaceful times, benefits from having a stronger training partner in Android 18. As shown in Dragon Ball, characters who train with someone stronger than themselves tend to grow more quickly and effectively.
Saiyan saga: tien
Namek saga: Krillin
Buu saga: tien
Dbs beginning: idk
Dbs ending: krillin
That sums it up.
We should get something like this in dragon ball super.
I disagree with this so hard but its okay .. Krillin shows he can go toe to toe with ssj goku.. but its whatever .. this is alot of head canon...
Wait what about Master Roshi I believe he is the strongest human.
Except he can't fly.
Where is Master Roshi?
Jay and silent bob reference in a dragonball story.......... epic!!!!
The answer is Yamcha. He's the only one remotely close to human ^^
Oh fuck
We never thought of power levels by counting out aliens
Despite what Toriyama says about Krillin, anyone who has followed these 2 characters would know based off of the way they were written in the series, Tien would be the undisputed most powerful human due the the fact that he never stopped training. Krillin & Yamcha have both stopped training for years on multiple occasions.
I always liked Krillin more than Tien, was really hoping he would win, but Tien kept on training so ok.
Me too but Tien has always be stronger than Krillin and he keep training so saying he is weaker than Krillin is a big disrespect to Tien
@@hassankhalid8917 are we watching the same dragon ball
Did you guys watch dragon ball super where roshi claps tien lol
And krillin is out here cucking a fighter that cucked android 18
@@RanMaru144 Roshi could clap Krillin too. Android 18 hold back when she is training with Krillin. Also Tien is still stronger since he last longer in the tournament.
@@hassankhalid8917 ok this is false for many reasons
Android 18 loses to a character that we wee visibly on screen krillin clap
Also we see that roshi in the top refer to both krillin and goku as surpassing him in power made him train again but he still refers to them as superior to him and proud they became so strong
@@RanMaru144 ok so who was that character Krillin clap but 18 cannot?
See, considering the Daizenshuu said the only users of Kaiou-Ken were King Kai, Goku and Tenshinhan... I'm inclined to believe Piccolo could NOT use the Kaiou-Ken. But just because he suppressed his ki like it was mentioned in the anime, and then just powered up to his max level. Also, glad the author knew that Tenshinhan used Kaiou-Ken in short bursts to turn his Kikohou into a Shin Kikohou, which is why he could handle Semi-Perfect Cell when Piccolo and 17 lost to the Imperfect version.
But to be fair, I believe Tenshinhan is still physically stronger than Krillin too. There's a trope that's been used throughout all of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z in the animation studio for those who are stronger... Also, the fact that Tenshinhan had to rescue Krillin from his Cell Jr and was the only human standing - albeit worn out just like Piccolo, during the fight against them... Should be reason enough to believe he's stronger as well.
Krillin is the STRONGEST Human, canonically... There's no debate about it... But Tenshinhan derives from the Triclops tribe that was mentioned in the Daizenshuu's early stages and back in Dragon Ball... Sadly nothing more came out of that backstory, but we know it's an alien race that landed on Earth. So Tenshinhan isn't a full-blooded human. Making Yamcha the second strongest human. Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Tenshinhan have human and alien DNA... And they never one refer to themselves or are referred to by "human". They've always been called "earthlings" - go back and read the manga... Not once were any of them "humans". Even when Napa and Vegeta show up, they addressed Krillin as a human when Napa scouted his power level, but called Tenshinhan an "earthling" after he arrived a bit later.
But while Krillin is the strongest human, I refuse to believe that Tenshinhan is weaker. Especially if Krillin just doesn't train and it's stated by Akira Toriyama himself that in Super, the only warriors who never retired from training were Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and Tenshinhan. And don't get me started on Roshi being stronger than Tenshinhan... THAT is another can of worms altogether.
I think Tien is human and just has a quirk like Krillin or Launch
@@Hammy175 ... Read the Daizenshuu then... He's got alien blood. Krillin and Launch are full human. He's not. Akira Toriyama stated as much. Everyone knows this... He does have human blood, but again... Same category as Gohan, Goten and Trunks... Not fully human.
@@JeiJohnson Thats a pointless reckon because of favouratisim.
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Krillin survived full power Super Saiyan god Super Saiyan Goku kaméhaméha
End of discussion
Its easier for goku too be weaker in ssjb because it has a higher ki control than base form
@@Dilpickle2002 that's bs
Krillin has been the strongest ever since he got his potential unlocked on namek.
It makee more sense for Tien to be stronger, as he has been training for years, while Krillin has been lazy
Bro tien is just less talented then krillin
Krillin has more potential so he fan afford to do less
@Sky Dome uh based on what we see in z no his not lol look I know u probably like tien but krillin has always been portrayed to have the most potential out of the humans only thing that was holding him back was his personality hell he even did good against piccolo when he got over himself his self conscious
And when he stops being self conscious and fights confidently his the clearly the better fighter
Do people forget that krillin has a family and a job
@@Zegory nope everyone knows that
@@RanMaru144 but if you actually compared tien and krillin in dbz back in the android saga krillin was able to hold of cells first form for a bit cause cell wasn't as agile as krillin but tien was able to stop semi perfect cell to let 18 escape by using his neo tri beam and both tien and krillin where weaker than the androids for tien to hold off semi perfect cell and to also be weaker than the androids is crazy and back in the namek saga krillin got his ass kicked by recoome after unlocking his potential and in king kias planet tien could beat jeice and burter, if they where to fight back in dbz tien would've had the upper hand.
Goku went just to get vegeta. 5:29
Bruh how did goku manage to grab vegeta like that
"Sense when do humans have three eyes?"
“Since when do humans have no nose?”
Tien is a descendant from the 3 eyed people, a group of people who probably went to earth and breeded with humans so tien is a hybrid
Lackifall or maybe he's a descendant of niggas who unlocked their third eye through meditation and training, you know, since Tien always meditates.
@Koala Wrath Maybe Tien meditated specifically to unlock his third eye. Regardless if I'm wrong, Toriyama never confirmee that Tenshinhan was an alien, just that he came from the Three-Eyed Clan. The Z Fighters were surprised when they found out Goku and Piccolo were aliens... not to mention DB is a world where dinosaurs walk the earth in a futuristic esque world where a dog is king of the Earth.
Lol Tien isn't an Alien, he came from a clan of 3 eyed men, and anything else is an assumption that wasn't confirmed.
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I kinda disagree with the notion that the humans could use kaio ken. Not because they were human, but because of the same reasons super saiyan goku couldn't use kaio's techniques. They obviously never said it, but the one difference between goku and the rest of the cast is that goku is the only one pure of heart but super saiyan goku wasn't. It's also why we never see super saiyan goku make a genki dama.
I guess this is also why we see a return to kaio ken once goku uses the god ki.
why was saitama in the background
Excellent. As it should be. All is well in the world. 2020-Tien !!!
But Tien isn’t fully human. He’s part of the theee eyed clan...
The three eyed clan was never truly explained. Perhaps they were humans who unlocked their third eye through meditation and training, since you know Tien always meditates and always trains.
When you are early and don't know what to say: *I like turtles*
Yeah i like the new dokkan battle lr too
@big smoke Lmao
I like cranes personally
@@RamielEdits hollup my g ill look for the guy who asked 🏃♂️
I like turles
To be honest, Toriyamas statement of Krillin being stronger doesn't matter as we and all other fans can agree he stopped caring about the show after the Frieza saga so his statements don't really matter, tho RIP legend, also i can imagine Launch rooting for Tien in the background.
Well explained about both there powers
What about Yamaha?
5:37
so.. goku kidnapped vegeta? hahaha
That limit breaker technique reminds of a move I made up, called spirit breaker, it doubles the power of you ki based attacks but drains your ki faster. It's manly used in short bursts.
" Long time hetro lifemate " :D
Logically, Tien. Plot wise, Krillin unfortunately
Bro amount of training doesn't matter lol krillin just has more potential then tien
Like logically tien trains all the time so he should be stronger then frieza but his not cause potential
@@RanMaru144 Krillin stopped training while Tien kept it up. Krillin was even worried about bullets. Yeah, Tien deserves to be stronger
@@awesomemonkey9736 dont really matter who deserves to be stronger what matters is who is stronger and its krillin as much as I dont want him to be it's just the facts of the situation
@@RanMaru144 What facts are those got any proof other than a drunk writer claiming a fact then later revoking it
The strongest man in the world with no powers or super strength Is
MR SATAN!!!😂
This was nice and vary satisfying