Unusual Graveyard in Connecticut
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Only numbered graves at this old cemetery. Connecticut Valley Hospital was originally called the Connecticut General Hospital for the Insane. This is their old graveyard which was used until 1957.
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I googled grandpa Jim’s story ! He used to paint the circus wagons for Barnum and baileys, and then one day he vanished from the family home. His absence left the family in agony for decades as they never knew what happened to him until recently. They tracked him down to the hospital and they surmised that he died from Dementia due to lead poisoning. The paints he used at the time were extremely toxic. Such an interesting story.
sad
That was really great of you! How interesting.
that's awful
Thank you for this information. ❤️
May have died from dementia or Parkinson’s, however I question the lead theory because years ago most all oil paints had lead and painters didn’t ingest it , my father melted lead to pour into pipe joints and would try not to breathe the fumes which were same as evaporation but he did anyway. He did this for 20 years until plastic drains came to be . BTW he lived to age 90 . Not saying lead is not harmful, it is and so are xenoestrogens in heated plastics
May ALL their innocent souls Rest In Peace
As a gravestone carver, I gotta say those stones with numbers and grave info are really impressive
How did you get into that kind of work?
Are you busier these days due to COVID?
It's so nice to see such an old cemetery being taken care wth such respect for its residents.
Being a mental institution dating back to the 1800's you can only imagine the horrific things these poor people had to endure. I truly hope each and every one of them is resting in peace. 🙏💜☮️
This is unique. I can't imagine the awful conditions inside that hospital..
I remember when I was little so about 45 years ago . Hearing from someone who worked there and left because they said you could feel the evil that was there. They did some terrible things, electric shock therapy, frontal labodamies and so on. That between that and some of the residents it was just pure evil. They left and never went back.
This is why institutions are not a good idea. It leaves alot of Mentally ill Homeless, but, it really is less cruel and a Human rights issue, to refrain from institutionalizing People beyond their will.
They actually thrive quite well out and about, if they can atleast keep warm and shelter from rain.
@@trerc1 You need to remember the time period. Shock therapy and lobotomies was before medications that were found that worked. Lobotomies were for those that otherwise would be in a straight jacket in a padded cell. This is the first time I have seen where a cemetery actually was kept with the type of records to find the persons grave. A lot will have unmarked graves and no record.
I hate how the deceased mentally ill were numbered on their tomb stones, as if they are lesser human beings. They cannot help they way they are, if anything, they should be treated with compassion.
This is likely due to patient privacy.. I can't say for sure, but a mental hospital cemetery in WA state also numbered their head stones for this reason so as to protect the patients names.
My guess is the name directory was later added after it was petitioned to be released or allowed?
Again I don't know specifically for the cemetery in the video but that's what happened at the cemetery I'm familiar with.
At the Oregon State Hospital, where they filmed "One Flew over the Cuckoos Nest" they found many cans stored that contained the ashes of patients from years ago. I think they were numbered too.
@@beebee33 Unclaimed corpses of prisoners are also labelled with numbers on their tombstones. I dislike that this practice is extended to the deceased mentally ill patients. Unlike the prisoners, these unfortunate poor souls did not do anything wrong.
This was likely done for a number of reasons. 1. it probably wasn't uncommon to not know who these people were because they came in from being picked up off the street or dumped and were too insane to say who they were. 2. the hospitals likely didnt have a ton of money to engrave each stone with a custom name and dates. Honestly this is alot better than most people get. Prisoners, poor, the unclaimed, alot of them just get incinerated or dumped in a mass grave where you have no hope of finding them.
AMEN to that!!! How horrendous that mentally handicapped individuals whether physically challenged or psychologically debilitated suffered horribly 100 years ago, just like they do today!!!
The cemetery looks well cared for.
It is. People do care now.
From 1878 to 1957, that is about 80 years, and just under 1,700 burials here - that works out to about 21 deaths per year, on average. All those poor people. I hope they are now resting in peace for eternity.
My grandparents both worked at CVH in the 1920s - 1940s, my grandmother would have been what is a CNA today and my grandfather used to help with recreation on Fridays. From what I gather, the patients were treated well. My grandparents enjoyed working there.
It’s good to know that the patients were treated well.
Research Willard Psychiatric Hospital in Willard, NY.
When the hospital closed, they found over 400 suitcases in the attic of patients. Belongings were taken away on admission.
A gentleman wrote a book about the contents of the suitcases.
Many patients were admitted by doctors order because they had no other place to go....such as widows, retired housekeepers...maids...and nannies.
That sounds awful, no where to go but here. Thanks for the note!
I always thought that it would be interesting to go on a late night "adventure" inside of there 👻👻👻👻
they may have also experimented on this people. medicine did that a lot. black prisoners, handicapped children or the unwanted were used to experiment on especially when they are confined. I wonder if they still do that today. I would not doubt it
@@ElCid48 Sort of like the so called experimental vaccines today.
@@edwardsharpe6234 Excellent JAB! 👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏼
I really appreciate your channel when I describe your channel I tell people he goes to places National Geographic never heard of thanks for showing us these out of the way places
THE Lizzie Borden is buried at Oak Grove Cemetery in Fall River MA, where they lived. This is a different Lizzie Borden.
Most insane asylums did not mark graves, so this is unique. The stigma of the time meant that graves were numbered, not marked with the names. It was considered shameful to the family. Unfortunately my great-grandmother was among those forgotten to history.
Your great grand ma was NOT forgotten ... you know of her ... she was never a number on a tomb stone ... you know her and are of her ... make her proud ... Dolph out
@StephanCJones: Yes... Accurate... Stigma and the family name on a headstone that would last for centuries is why they went with numbers...
So sad. 😥
We can say from our modern soapbox that people who can't speak back did it due to stigma, but we still practice this with unclaimed bodies. Like the video says in this time it wasn't uncommon to discover later on that your family member has been sent there, clearly in some cases it was too late.
I live in CT, when we were teenagers the original CVH was still standing and we used to sneak in at night despite the fence around it and the constant patrols of state troopers. We found a morgue with gurneys, scalpels everywhere, a microphone hanging from the ceiling, and tons of documents about shock treatment and finding parasites in stool samples. It was a very eerie place and i still have pictures with those floating light things in them everywhere
More strange things happen in new England Connecticut Rhode island Massachusetts there are so many strange stories in new England, from vampire stories from days gone by new blood banks being empty 🫙 bags of blood from animals being desenguinated welcome to new England
Lamont is on that side of the country! I love it when my 2 favorite UA-camrs collaborate! Great video Chris!
Yes!! They really need to do another video together ☺️
I adore you dude! Keep the adventurous spirit going!
667 neighbour of the beast
@2:39 Name Lizzie Borden 476 ! Obviously not the "actual" Lizzie but how unfortunate to have the same name !
I noticed that too Feet! Lol
I just posted the same thing, before I saw your comment.
Given the ominous history, I’m surprised they didn’t skip “666”
Fascinating video, thank you!
How about number 13?
@@ElCid48 Hotels have that one covered.
Should have skipped it. How inconsiderate.
@@gueguense8258 Right!
I read somewhere that 666 is an "error". It was supposed to have been 616. Or that it started out as 616 and was wrongly transcribed after that. 👹
Something along those lines, anyway. 😄
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I'm 75, I watched him too.
I admired Walter Cronkite too, but "On the Road" was Charles Kuralt. Both were very interesting gentlemen.
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Thank you!
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Re: sometimes no one in the famly knew one of their relatives had been sent here: dollars to donuts one person in the family knew - the one who committed their relative and clammed up about it. Admittedly i'm floating this idea, but it seems plausible
I'm sure a ton of crappy husbands/step parents/ in laws/ etc had their family members committed and told their families that they ran away.
@@zeldapinwheel7043 no doubt
What a neat and organized cemetery. Methodic cold calculating. Just numbers on the markets. At least there is now a number key to match with names.
Thanks for another great video
This is amazing of you to remember these people
In our town we have a old mental hospital that's closed but it's still standing and the cemetery is there. We lived 3 blocks from the hospital and the mental patients would break out and be running around and coming down our street in bunches screaming and yelling and trying to get in any house or building they could. The old hospital is now a state office building and the employees kept refusing to go back in cause of paranormal activity being so bad. Even the night security guard won't go inside. He sits in his vehicle all night outside. I have seen crazy shit passing it at night. And so has everyone else. Idk why nobody has made a video about it
Where’s this place ❓
@@mrdiplomat9018 frankfort ky. On Glenn's creek road. Between main street and the connector road. Frankfort cemetery is across the street from it
On Tacoma,WA there is a former mental hospital that became county offices. My sister worked there for awhile and told us how it was supposedly haunted.
Thank you for sharing. As a RN I may I make Thoughts of multiple grave numbers on one stone might include numerous deaths at same time due to 1916 Spanish flu, or polio. Something such as that. Even catastrophic situations like wall/ boiler collapsed. So many weird situations in these old hospitals.
I have an entire missing side to my family who were from the Middlesex, CT area. There is a relative with the last name of and with the right age to be my missing great-great-grandmother. The family vanished completely leaving no trace at all of one branch of the family except for one child who appears out of nowhere at age 7, living on his maternal grandparents' farm.
How amazing. I used to enjoy visiting old Connecticut cemeteries near Suffield CT....I never about this cemetary. I admire your empathy and intelligent narrations.
I love history like this-- the memorials to humans who lived so long ago.
The small out-of-place graves off to the side look like children's graves.
First video I've seen of you and it's awesome, thanks! You and Lamont inspire me to do something similar in my neck of the woods. Great work buddy!
Those separate ones could be people whom they thought were contaminated by certain illness and the one that had multiple numbers could be cremations.
Or special experiments
I thought multiple personalities?
May be they all died in a fire?
so they bury them separate so the rest of the corpses wont be infected?
Could be racial or religious. Back then whites didnt want to be buried with blacks, Christian's didnt want to be buried with Jews, Protestants didnt want to be buried with Catholics, also could be different origins of nationality.
Fascinating bit of history, and all too sad (in terms of how the mentally ill were/are treated). Thanks for brining this to us, Chris.
I wonder if there are any remnants of any buildings left. Good job Chris!
The hospital buildings are still there. Several years ago I did some training for work in the old main hospital building. It houses various offices and stuff for the Department of Mental Health and Human Services for the state of Connecticut in Middletown.
In 2003 they tore down few brownstone buildings over there the masonry company I worked for made runs down for like a weekt to pick up brownstone. We built a lot of brownstone walls for the next few months
This is so interesting, I am amazed they even had all the names of these people. Most of the asylums never have a list of names for their dead, it's always a mystery that leaves you feeling so sad for them. It makes me feel better that, all these numbered headstones have names, and they are on a a memorial. So happy Grandpa Jim was found, I can feel the happiness the family has at this, and I bet Grandpa rests easier. He has a beautiful monument as a reminder to all. Thank you Chris, for some odd reason I didn't get a notice on this, just happened to run across it.
I'm from the uk and this my friend is very interesting.Thanks for sharing
Chris, you have a very calming and soothing voice.
Didn't know this existed. Admirable that these souls got a resting place from a hospital. God is good ♡♡♡
We have a graveyard just like this in my hometown. The state voted to remove all the gravestones (a few at a time) and put the individuals' names on the stones. I visit it every now and then. Thanks for the video 👍🇺🇸😊
Same thing for the patients that were in the Eloise Mental Hospital in Dearborn, MI. We found the graveyard for them through a fence. The headstones aren't even standing up, just laying flat with numbers on them. The hospital first floor was still open with some tourist info and pictures, but the upper floor is still closed off. Theres been some movies made about the place...a good horror one, I believe just called Eloise.
I find your channel very interesting. You really seem to gather a lot of information when you can. Good research. 💀
Maybe the three off to the side were related to each other? I tried to check the directory but didn’t see those numbers. The “mass” burial might be infants? Very interesting I’m glad they have put names to the numbers.
I would hate to be #1. This is too sad for me to handle. 🥺😢😭 good video though, great information.
Nice to see you in my part of the world Chris. That CT. Valley Hospital is still functioning & has a slew of negative reviews that I was reading online. Here's one of the negative reviews I just copied off of the Google page referring to this place and it was not written by one of the patients but by a family member:
Horrible, depressing atmosphere..... The staff is incompetent, lacks compassion, and do not care about the patients. Patients are over medicated and wear dirty clothes. If you purchase new clothing for your family member it is stolen by the staff. There are no activities to engage patients. Many just watch television to pass the time. The food proportions are small. I am in the process of getting my family member out of there. This hospital should be shut down! I hope the Justice department sues them!!
WOW THE MOST INTERESTING VIDEO OF MY WEEKEND SO FAR TY IVE ALWAYS CALLED CEMETERIES ROCK GARDENS
Very interesting never seen a directory like that
Chris, love to see a video of you visiting a Union Prisoner of War camp up North. Many men died under capture in northern and southern POW camps during the war of northern aggression.
If you make it south, Andersonville, GA will make you rethink a lot of your life.
“Who’s buried here?”
My hopes and dreams.
I feel you, squidward 😞
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What a baby
Thanks for another video. I think this may be the saddest insane asylum cemetery I have seen. At least they have names to go with the numbers.
Thanks for coming to my home town and showcasing it! Wish we knew you were in town I would love to buy you a drink next time you roll through!
Where is this exactly? I don’t think it’s mentioned in the video. I’m in Greenwich & there’s historical sites, but nothing quite like this!
My 3x great grandpa died in Traverse city insane asylum in 1899 and we searched for his grave for nearly a decade. There's a mass grave in oakwood cemetery in Traverse city with a memorial stone for the people who died there. I believe they said there were over 800 bodies in the grave?
Later we found his grave, unmarked, in the cemetery where most of his immediate and extended family were buried. We had to contact the local grave digger to get confirmation (he had buried my grandpa's daughter in- law in the same plot and was terrified he was going to hit one of the other coffins since they were buried before they put people in cement vaults)
Middletown CT my hometown I go here every year when Im home nice!! Nobody has done this yet! Super cool you did this thanks!
Sad that they didnt get their name on the headstone
My brother Sam died on 6-6-06, born 6-10-43, RIP Sam, miss him a lot.
Years ago friends were hiking around another unused mental hospital nearby, and found all the files dumped on the ground in the woods. They even found confidential files of two children belonging to a local family (then adults) which they picked up and returned to the family.
The Jerome Grand Hotel in Jerome AZ was once a mental hospital. It was said that many people died there but they have no clue how many. All of the hospital records were thrown away. We went by there about 2 years ago and everything was closed due to the COVID. A worker there let us in and gave us a tour of the place.
Where is the hospital? I lived in CT for 10 years and never heard of it.
@@christinedelman887 Mansfield. The largest was in Norwich.
Graves with more than one may be from the 1917 flu pandemic .
Or cremated buried in one grave.
Hi Chris, Those three stones by themselves : I speculate, perhaps infants still born on site. It would be unrealistic to think there would never be a birth at an asylum housing women yet those children would have been considered bastards and less important. Also, I noticed the graves seemed very close together, too close for a full sized casket. I wonder if the numbers are on the guide stones. That said ; have you visited the Georgia Guide Stones? May I suggest you look into the Georgia Guide Stones and consider doing a video about them if you are in this area. I live in Ga. Thank you for the videos and your thoughtful treatment of the subjects you cover. I consider you the standard to which others aspire.
Thats a sad story. No way for family to find out who's their loved ones.
I was in rehab there and checked out the grave yard upon leaving the treatment center . Cool ass grave yard . The rehab was called Rushford Center .
thank you for sharing this sad no names on graves
Grave stone 69, nice
M.A.G.A
The responding commenter above probably thinks there's two bodies buried in that position.
(Hey they believe everything one blowhard says over facts.)
During the 1950's thru 1980's many mental instructions and prisions had graveyards when residents, inmates died and bodies went unclaimed to be interned on the property
At the Oregon State Hospital, where they filmed "One Flew over the Cuckoos Nest" they found many cans stored that contained the ashes of patients from years ago. I think they were numbered too.
I used to live near Middletown where this cemetery is!
I'm not far from Middletown. Newington here. Been buy that place going fishing at Salmon River.
My mother told me about someone from her grade school who wound up at The Institute of Living in Hartford, CT. Very sad story actually. CT had a lot of mental institutions at one time but most of them are now closed I believe. The Institute of Living is still open though.
A friend did research on an abandoned Jewish graveyard from a mental health institution some years ago in NY state. The state would not release records of names because they felt that hippa laws protected them even after death. It was almost impossible to discover who was buried there
Sad. Just a number.
I would think none had wooden caskets and the multiple numbered headstones were essentially mass graves.
Love going to old cemeteries just walking thru wondering what they were like in life
Did you catch Lizzie Borden’s name on the directory? Cool!
Who is Lizzie Borden?😕
@@tashasmith6179 A (supposed) axe murderer. “Lizzie Borden took an axe, gave her mother 40 whacks. When she saw what she had done, she gave her father 41.” Google her.
@@TheBohemiansWife true story
@@jimritzheimer7465 I noticed that too!
Lizzie Borden is buried in Oak Grove cemetery in Fall River Mass. ( axe murders) 🪓
Oh I know of a great cemetery from long ago, many are in the woods. Very old spooky
I suspect that there used to be buildings in the open space as that was a fire hydrant you saw.
I thought that too!
Interesting
Condolences to those families
Whoa! There was a huge sanitorium in Columbus Ohio. There were 7 cemeteries associated with it but they are hidden and no roads go to them. One is in concentric circles. The one in the middle just has a pentacle on it. Same about nic names. I never knew there were more places like this. I wonder now how many there really are?
Drove through there at 1AM the other day with my dog and nephew. Scared the bejesus outta the dog, never seen him whimper like that.
So sad there names are not on them but as they say we’re just a number in life poor souls can’t imagine what went on in these places
Thank you, interesting video!
Also on the CVH property was a Poor House, it was called The Farm, it was located at the bottom of the hill next to the Ct River, it's now a drug rehab center named Rushford. Many of the graves are from the indigent people that lived at the Poor House, there was no welfare back then, no bankruptcy laws, if you hit rock bottom, you went to The Farm, and you also worked on The Farm. I worked at CVH, I also volunteered there in High School, and I also had many relatives that worked there. My Mother and Grandparents are buried in the Cemetery right next to this one in the video.
The stone with 8 graves, probably holds 8 people who all died at the same time. Note the grave numbers are consequential.
Yes, I wondered if they could have been from the era of the Spanish Flu.
@@nancydb1390 or an accident of sorts. Very sad.
It shows Lizzie Bordon at 2:39 in the very bottom right corner. I'll have to see if it's the infamous one.
Nope not the same one. She's buried in Massachusetts
Lol nope she's in the state over.
I think that just numbering these poor people is so heartbreaking 😥
I’m from Connecticut. My dad worked there.
Interesting. 👀Thanks for the post. 👍🏻🥂
Thank you for this interesting video.
There's an interesting cemetery at Ouachita Baptist University in Arkadelphia, Arkansas.
Cool research dude. Keep it up.
in my hometown... sadly... as far as i know...CVH is still open.
It all seems well kept too
Amazing!
Such a cool cemetery. Thanks for sharing!
Pretty good. Thanks!
Intresting video. Thanks for your work.
There are many unique and fascinating cemeteries in New England.
Most cemeteries didn't keep records straight,some were lost or destroyed and many were buried together in an unmarked grave or separate
Hmmm...wonder if that what that sole cross at 6:42 is?
@@sarge6870 who knows?
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Great video history. Thanks..
The burials, 1,491 of them are listed on the website Find a Grave. They are listed by name, not just a number. There are people that died in CVH having no family that their bodies were donated for medical research. I found that out researching my family history.
Grave 476 says Lizzie Borden. At 2:39 time mark
This is very common near old asylums and mental hospitals.