Fun Fact: The Fryer Brothers thought that their sentences were too harsh and were begging for a lighter sentence, to no avail. All of their appeals were exhausted a long time ago and they will NEVER get out of jail.
Don't be so sure. What happens when one of these scumbags gets cancer and then asks for "compassionate release"? Think that won't happen? It almost happened with one of the Manson murderers a few years ago. Liberal judges are all about letting old guys out of prison because they are "too old" to hurt anyone.
I'm sorry but I can believe it, I work in an environment, where people have no empathy, no kindness, but once in a while a meet a nice person, I see in this world how we treat people, how we treat the great animals on this earth, there are some great people out there, but I have more faith in my four dogs, my family, and God, little faith in people!!!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Personally Jason, after seeing too many of guys like these in this world, I hope you never, ever do understand. I hope you continue the good fortune of staying the heck away from people like this. *edit: To be clear, after seeing too many people like this I still don't understand.
Omg when you showcased that photo of the 3 criminal brothers...I can't imagine the horrors these kids endured. That poor girl!! 😞 these guys are CREEPY!
From what I remember reading about this case earlier, the farm Sandra was taken to was not abandoned, but rather was owned by a local farmer that one of the brothers worked for. Basically he had taken Sandra to his place of employment. Which is why it was not unusual that he happened to be driving by days later when he was spotted and detained by the police. He worked there.
Many farm houses in Iowa are abandoned, but, the land is still worked or livestock is kept there. Still, at night, there are no humans anywhere to be seen.
I watch a lot of true crime, and when you cover abandoned sites like this, you do an amazing job. You honor victims and teach your viewers about sensitivity and history. Thank you for that.
Condolences to the families and Ms. Sarah as well. I was abducted from a shopping center parking lot by a man with a knife, driven to a remote area, tortured and sexually assaulted on 12-26-73 at 20 yrs. old. I was extremely fortunate to survive. As Ms. Sandra experienced the Troopers didn’t believe me either. I was admitted to the hospital for awhile then released. When the detectives drove me around I was finally able to locate the remote area he had taken me to and some people in the house where he had had first parked the vehicle had ID’d the fur from my hood of my coat and his vehicle. The detectives left me alone in their car in the dark while they spoke with the residents. They then returned to the vehicle and one turned to me and said, “We didn’t believe a word you said until we spoke to those people-*we thought you just got in a fight with your boyfriend....* I had no idea at all my credibility was ever in question. My heart was completely shattered. I will never, ever, ever trust or go to the police again for anything. I’d rather die. My assailant was executed years later for the rape and murder of a number of other young women. No, his execution didn’t feel like “Justice” to me at all but hey, I’m just a victim.
I am so sorry this happened to you. You didn't deserve to be hurt and you didn't deserve how the police treated you. I would be lying if I said I was unhappy to find out that your attacker is no longer in this world, but it makes sense that the concept of justice has proven elusive. You cannot erase or atone for some crimes.
You are not just a victim, you are a survivor. We both are. Although my assault didn't go as far as yours, I can to some extent understand how you feel. I'm sorry those officers treated you that way. And you are right it doesn't feel like justice. For some reason, I still look at his mugshot and I don't get gratification. However, I am grateful to be in here. You are here too 🫂❤️🫂
I'm sorry to hear your story and I've heard too many like it. There is several cultural problems with police that cause them to be ineffective at best. They are trained to believe everyone is lying and they are also conditioned to not get involved unless they have too. I spent most of my life around law enforcement, including in my immediate family and even the best meaning officers are mostly ineffective at best. Sadly a similar situation is affecting the medical industry, the days of doing the job to help people are over, they don't trust their patients to tell them the truth and believe their stories. If you try to be your own advocate they feel their authority and competence are being questioned. Our society is quickly losing the human elements and compassion. I'm happy you were strong enough to peservere through tragedy and evil, but sad you had to.
If someone ever did that to my kids, I would be in prison for the rest of my life because those murderers wouldn't be alive for very long after that. I feel so bad for the families of those poor kids.
@@purple-edge you don't think so? I've never been locked up but I had a co-worker who did 20 years and also watched quite a bit of Big Herc and Jay Williams. From what I understand there are a lot of people behind bars for getting retaliation for something that was done to their children.
Back in 1988 my mom told about this murder story . I wanted to go camping with my cousins at an old abandoned farm here in Texas . that story made me change my mind . I was only 9 years old . may them four boys rest in peace .
My parents were buying an acreage rent to own from the Seversons. My mother told me that their daughter was invited go go along with her friends to Gitchie that night. But, she had homework and her parents told her "no." Who knew that having homework may have saved their daughter's life??! The old saying was "I've got the itchy for Gitchie." It was the party place. No park ranger, no closing, no gates. Now it's all blocked off, overgrown, sad, and haunting....
You deserve your own Netflix show, the way you tell the story of these horrible murders is captivating whilst being respectful. Thank you for your channel and keep up the good work.
I recall a weird horror film from 1978 called Manitou were a native American fetus or something resided on the back of a suburban white woman (yeah, I know). I remember the chant to sumon it "Gitchie Manitou." It had nothing to do with this horrific crime. Just Hollyweird doing its thing.
What is Ojibwe? Is that a Native American tribe? I'm sorry, I've just never heard that. It looks familiar but I'm not sure. I'm not trying to be rude, I just am seriously curious. Tia😊
The books are Gitchie Girl, written by Paul Hanman and Sandra Hamman, the other book, by the same authors is, Gitchie Girl Uncovered. They can be found on Amazon
I do so admire Sandra for her strength and bravery to turn these no counts in. She is their true friend not forgetting them and the memorial stones in their memory.
Yes, it was a rock shelter with a fireplace. Gitchee Manitou was an Iowa State Park. My folks and I used go there for nature walks with the dogs. Kids had beer parties there just as they do today. The graffiti is sure colorful, I remember when there was NO grafitti there. I went to school with Mike Hadrath, he lived a block away. I remember his empty seat in speech class at Washington High School. There was no mention of the event by the teachers at the time, certainly NO counselors were present for support.
Such a sad story. I always wonder why people have to deface sites with spray paint like this one. It's as though they can't stand it that the place represents another story; they have to make it all about them instead.
Children, although they like to think they are adults, with no talent although many like to think they are artists. Good artists don't sulk around in the shadows like cowards defacing others property.
You told the terrible story, with such emotion, such empathy, You are such a nice person, hope this year more and more people subscribe to your channel, you deserve it!!!!!!!!! 🤗
Google Camp Scott Girl Scout murders in OK. I'm a true crime buff & had never heard of that one either & that kinda freaks me out. These local crimes happen & after a few decades, it's like they're forgotten. Oh & make sure you watch the old documentary on the Camp Scott murders on UA-cam. It's enough to curdle your blood.
The shelter was built by the CCC in 1934. But there was no caretaker for it , so it started getting wrecked pretty soon after that. It was declared a historic site and there was a movement to restore it about 20 years ago. But it doesn't look like anything ever came out of that.
@@davidvankirk607 Yes. We've got a lot of them in New England. A lot of our beautiful state parks were established by the CCC. Teens - under supervision - worked on creating the parks. The boys were given $5 a month and the rest of the $ was sent to their parents during the Great Depression. A lot of the stone buildings and fireplaces are still used today in the parks.
@@redpine8665 My grandpa worked on them when he was a young man in West Virginia. I never understood when i was a kid how he knew every road through the trout streams and exactly where it would take us were talking miles of backcountry mountain roads and my dad explained to me well when you built them you should know where they are taking you.
That type of stone shelter was common in the parks where I grew up in Illinois. They would have timber framed roofs and open wall areas with a fireplace and benches or table inside. Meant for picnics, etc.
Most of then were built by the Civilian Conservation Corps in the 1930's, nice to know Iowa doesn't seem to give a damn about maintaining it anymore ...
My family, as kids, much enjoyed visits in one in Sagamore, Camden Maine. Staying at the Camping part, we'd picnic and hangout in the CCC rustic rock and timber shelter on rainy stretches. Have a campfire in the big fireplace. Put dry seaweed on it: made sounds like popcorn popping as the seaweeds' flotation air bladders popped. Pretended the shelter was a Viking lodge or Pioneer lodge...
@@carlcushmanhybels8159 if you ever come to Long Island,NY, you can have a very similar experience. You can’t the have fires on most of the beaches(Besides the barbecues) but definitely camp fires at the coastal camp grounds. It’s wonderful ☺️
That building with the fireplace was the Park Pavillion. It offered a place to gather under a roof, with picnic tables, and you could have a nice fire and warm up the Pavillion. It would have had glass windows as well. It was a good place to get out of the rain and wind and a place to be in the evening before the park closed.
I can feel your heart breaking as you're tell this story, how can people be so evil they were just kids. You're a brave man to be walking all alone out there it seems haunting.
I have a huge problem knowing that I'm providing anything for rapists and murders. I ESPECIALLY don't want to pay for the zzz drug, 10¢ worth of potassium directly to the heart is fine.
I find your videos to be super relaxing, even when you’re talking about horrible things that happened apparently. I love your channel, mate. Keep up the great work!
I've never heard about this horrendous case, so thank you for covering it. That building and the graffiti on it is just crazy looking. What a horrible TRAGEDY on an otherwise perfect day for these innocent kids 😞
@@oldbatwit5102 why stupid? Please explain. I take it that UA-cam has given you all authority and made you chief of such posts! Waiting.......waiting ............
We're the authors of the bestselling books "Gitchie Girl" and "Gitchie Girl Uncovered." The Gitchie murders and the lone survivor, Sandra Cheskey, have somewhat of a cult following in this area. We've watched all of the UA-cam videos related to Gitchie Manitou, and yours is probably the most accurate one we have watched. You did an excellent job. Even the spot along the river where you believe the shootings likely occurred looks to us to be the same location where we think it probably happened. Partly due to the recent coverage of Gitchie Manitou State Preserve, this once seldom visited area has become a much more popular destination. Those who follow paranormal events feel this is one of the most haunted places in the United States. Sandra Cheskey now sees it as place where she can meditate in peace and feel close to the boys who lost their lives there. Keep up the good work!
Wow! I was 11 when this happened. So, I wasn't big on watching the news. But, even in Western New York, the parents kept a closer watch on their children. Nice tribute to the memory of these kids. Stay safe and healthy out there! Thank you for sharing a part of your day with us!
I was 5, and from WNY also. I remembered the words "Gitchie Manitou" after all these years but had no cognitive connection to anything until watching this.
I grew up in South Dakota about 90 miles from Ritchie Manitou and have family that lived in Rock Rapids at the time. It was rural South Dakota/Iowa, people never thought something like that could happen in that area so the kids had much more freedom than they did in other places.
Growing up a New York is a lot different that's a very big place if you grow up in smaller places and Rural Towns.... I am not trying to be rude and just simply saying we didn't have As much going on as we do now I live in a town of the population now 3500 wasn't that much when I was growing up but we hit every house awhina across the highway I was like 8 years old My half sister was 5 years older liver supposed to stay together but we didn't but like I said it's a smalltown wouldn't have to worry about much
@@Bella1neverknows670 You should remember, New York is not New York City. Upstate is very rural. My town had 3k people, the school district was the largest in the state in terms of land area, but had the fewest students. My graduating class had 72 people in it. Mostly farm kids, of which I was technically one. Lived on a farm, but had horses and hay. Most had dairy cows, angus, or grapes.
I remember the news report about this case. Even though I lived in Illinois, it was national news. I was twelve at the time, almost 13, the same age as the survivor. I was convinced there were men out there with deer rifles who would get an idea to do the same thing and I became afraid. I used to like to go to an out of the way spot with my friends to hang out, but we stopped doing that after hearing about what happened in Iowa. That poor girl has my prayers.
WOW Your mom really got lucky. As a former teenage girl myself. I'll bet she was matter than a wet hen. Until she learned what happened to her friends. This is just horrible.
Sandra must be in her sixties if she’s still alive. I can’t imagine the traumatic affects she’s had to endure through her lifetime and wonder how she’s doing these days. Never knew about this horrific story til now.
I was 11 years old at the time this happened and it's creepy to know as a carefree child this evil was going on.. I hope they are resting in peace! Ty..
This is horrific. Rest in peace Stewart, Dana, Roger and Mike..I am so glad that Sandra survived, because of her those murderers and rapist got caught. Really weird prison that gets a phone call and lets a prisoner out for a few hours.
I remember this. I was in the 5th grade. This happened about 60 miles from my home town in NW Iowa. We traveled to Sioux Falls SD many times as I had many relatives living there. Was big news at the time as these kind of things didn't happen there. The stone structure with the fire place was a covered open shelter for gatherings. Common in that area at many parks.
Hey Brad, Glad this never happened to us while we were drinking beer out at the Secret Place. Been a long time, never expected to find you in the UA-cam comment section.
Truth almost always more horrifying than fiction. Your vids are remarkable - uncovering little-known or forgotten events/places/curiosities, and you're very conversant about the facts as you lead us on your tour. How you discover them I don't know, but your channels and your style are great.
Another sad story. I'm not advocating a rush to judgement, but, in cases where there is insurmountable evidence along with vile criminality, the death penalty, applied in a timely manner, is a deterrent. We have moved to a system where the victims have little to no rights and criminals have them all.
@@johngnipper8768 You're no better than the murderers. State-sponsored murder is still murder. Vindictiveness is not a virtue, it's a symptom of being cruel and stupid.
Wow! Incredible and sad story! May they all Rip🙏😢thank you for the history!👍i just dont understand why them psychopaths didnt get the death penalty! That really pisses me off how screwed up this country is! Peoples like that dont deserve to walk this earth!
This place is about 30 minutes from my house and I had no clue of this incident until sandy, her husband, and Sandra came to my town to talk about her story, and I got a signed copy of her book
This is the time the brothers got caught. They obviously did crap like this before. I grew up as a teen in the late 80s early 90s and people used to get away with a lot before cameras, cell phones and dna. I imagine the 60s and 70s were insane with people like these brothers running around.
Yup exactly my thoughts, before social media dna and all this technology you could get away with a lot of stuff and its seems this wasn't their first rodeo.
Your demeanor is so calming. These stories shouldn’t calm me but I let your videos play in the background while I’m working. I think my job has driven me to the edge a bit; I fucking hate it. But I love your videos.
This was fascinating - I've been watching your videos for years now but the way you retold this story and recreated the scenes had me riveted. I grew up in the country too and remember hanging out in places like this as a teen - no realizing how dangerous they could be. You should definitely do more of these TrueCrime videos.
Would people put graffiti all over the remains of a Nazi concentration camp? Nah, thought not. Bear in mind that some of that graffiti may have been put there by people who had no idea that these horrible events occured there.
WOW - that would have been so scary! So glad they were caught! This is like those Girl Scout murders back in the day! Those still creep me out to this day!!!! Pat
I just watched this and subscribed. I love how you tell a story and show the scene of the crime, stating it may not be exact, but you have me hooked!! I was sick to my stomache by what happened to this girl. Then, of course, the police don't believe it??? Men can be bad, and I mean scary. I am old enough now to articulate and somewhat move past the things I have experienced myself as a young lady. Parents, Hang on tight to your kids, especially teens. Don't ignore their cries for attention!!
Wow. What a story. I had never heard of this, but news didn’t always get to where we were (rural) unless it was on the national news and we happened to be watching. Well done, I subscribed. I can’t imagine what the girl went through after finding out her friends were truly dead. What a bad lot of brothers; makes me wonder what their home life was.
Wow, how can 3 people happen to be so evil and in the same family. Also, this was a good example of why you shouldnt trust or teach people to overly trust authority figures. They still listened to them even after they shot them
I lived in Sioux City Ia at the time and remember this being on the news. I didn't know the story behind it until now. A very sad story that never should have happened. I hope she has lived a good life despite that horrible night.
There was an incredible book written about this within the last few years called Gitchie Girl. It is an incredible read, you wont be able to put the book down. You can get it on Amazon. I am from Sioux Falls and we used to go to this place when we were younger and it is an eerie feeling, especially at night!!
This is like something out of a horror movie, I presume there may have been some inbreeding with the brothers family? And I don’t say that to be derogatory
violent brain disorder.. probably anthrax, farm poop natural. I knew a whole family with a disorder.. they had deer poaching in common...and marijuana.
@@timnewman1172 definitely not just some rural America problem. Inbreeding is practically a lifestyle in shitholes like Chicago. Between the poverty stricken ghettos and the brainless "progressive alternative sexual lifestyle" champions, I'd say it's more prevalent there than rural communities. Most country folks are good people who are hard working and god fearing, much unlike the trash from metropolitan areas. Just saying 😉👍
Jessica Hrutkay ...are you joking? He's a grown-a** man, not a little girl, why would he not go there alone?!! My god your generation is SO weak and cowardly, it's sad and pathetic..
@@branon6565 my generation? U don’t know my age! Wtf is wrong with you insulting someone you’ve never met online?!?! Do u have nothing better to do with your time??? You are sad and pathetic
How cold and sickeningly horrible for these young people who were murdered! I’ve never heard of this true crime, until now. You are remembering these valuable, loved and senselessly lost human beings, to everyone and we appreciate your thoughtfulness and respect for them. I honestly felt fear, and sick in my stomach, as you reported this story. May God rest their souls in peace.
This was a very well done recount. You told the story so well. It's crazy Sandra survived, although I'm glad she did! To the story of the police not believing her! After being raped, threatened & probably believing herself she was going to die. What a wild but tragic story! Such senseless murders. Heartbreaking
I really appreciate the lengths you go to visit and memorialize these sites, regardless of the circumstances that bring you to them. Thanks for doing these.
I couldn't imagine someone doing that to any kids, I couldn't go threw life with out my kids I would just break down and just give up on my self but the other half of me would hunt them down and make them half a slow death that's really mean to say and it would make some of you mad, but my kids are everything to me and my wife would agree!
Paula Holmes ....your name is Paula, you said you've got kids and they mean everything to you, and yet you said you have a wife....think about your comment for a hot minute....
Sir, your presentation and respectful attitude/mindset you bring with this video and not only this one, your others as well. I love it and leaves me craving more of your videos. And that your not all about subscribers and views. Thank you!!! The research you provide. Thank you!! Please continue on your genuine journey and the work you provide to us!
Fun Fact: The Fryer Brothers thought that their sentences were too harsh and were begging for a lighter sentence, to no avail. All of their appeals were exhausted a long time ago and they will NEVER get out of jail.
Our justice system has become so corrupt that I also hope they NEVER get out of jail!
Actually, since the Fryer’s murdered FOUR people, they should have received the death penalty! Why should taxpayers support them?
Good. Here in the UK they'd have got a slap on the wrist, no doubt.
Melissa McDonald Don't be ridiculous!!
Don't be so sure. What happens when one of these scumbags gets cancer and then asks for "compassionate release"? Think that won't happen? It almost happened with one of the Manson murderers a few years ago. Liberal judges are all about letting old guys out of prison because they are "too old" to hurt anyone.
I can’t imagine the PTSD that she lives with and all survivors like her have for the rest of their lives.. Rest In Peace to the victims
PTSD is no joke. I have it from seeing soilders killed for a piece of rock we keep giving back
There is an article with video of her going back to the site in 2013. She is very brave.
@@LeBasketballGuyyea, a very brave girl.
Those four boys were killed for no reason. It amazes me how vile some humans can be towards others.
Actually he got his facts wrong 3 boys and 1 girl died look it up
Look at the murder of unborn babies.
@@beverlyarcher3744 4 boys and 1 girl...look it up...Dana was a boy but had long hair like a girl
@@T1971-w4c Look at the murders of born people! Atlanta and Phoenix just today! And that's only the headlines.
@@T1971-w4c really ..not even comparable
I'll never be able to understand how some people can be so evil 😔
Agreed
Psychopath !
I'm sorry but I can believe it, I work in an environment, where people have no empathy, no kindness, but once in a while a meet a nice person, I see in this world how we treat people, how we treat the great animals on this earth, there are some great people out there, but I have more faith in my four dogs, my family, and God, little faith in people!!!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Not everyone's brain is wired the same way and not everyone is raised the same.
Personally Jason, after seeing too many of guys like these in this world, I hope you never, ever do understand. I hope you continue the good fortune of staying the heck away from people like this.
*edit: To be clear, after seeing too many people like this I still don't understand.
Omg when you showcased that photo of the 3 criminal brothers...I can't imagine the horrors these kids endured. That poor girl!! 😞 these guys are CREEPY!
Don't kid yourself.. girls love creepy dudes.. Pay attention
@Todes zauberer778 .There's a difference?
@Todes zauberer778 Agreed...
Yeah... The photos of the killers look like real slimey scum .
Cant imagine how scared those victims where. .
Heartbreaking.
acgillespie uh no we don’t. we would like to stay 200 feet away from creepy dudes 😟
47 years ago and I'm just learning about it in 2021 sad. Event.
I’m suprised there never was a movie about it
Me too. How awful. Those brothers deserved the death penalty!
@@tonyblue1388 there was 1978 I believe
Yes! You're a slow learner. Lol
First time I've ever heard of this too. So unnecessary and Evil. I was 14 years old when this occurred. Those brothers should have been executed.
From what I remember reading about this case earlier, the farm Sandra was taken to was not abandoned, but rather was owned by a local farmer that one of the brothers worked for. Basically he had taken Sandra to his place of employment. Which is why it was not unusual that he happened to be driving by days later when he was spotted and detained by the police. He worked there.
Makes since, thanks
Many farm houses in Iowa are abandoned, but, the land is still worked or livestock is kept there. Still, at night, there are no humans anywhere to be seen.
That's some high IQ, big brain decision making on the part of that psychopath.
@@scottcantdance804 would you prefer they be hyper intelligent geniuses who never get caught?
I watch a lot of true crime, and when you cover abandoned sites like this, you do an amazing job. You honor victims and teach your viewers about sensitivity and history. Thank you for that.
Stay strapped everytime u go anywhere
Yeah but these were teenagers. They don't think about this kind of thing happening. There biggest concern is being late on curfews. Its so sad
@I Love Koonboat and what can you legally protect yourself with.
Keep a big iron on your hip
@@Msvana2u legally don’t mean anything if your dead just protect yourself no matter what
A big iron on your hip.
Condolences to the families and Ms. Sarah as well.
I was abducted from a shopping center parking lot by a man with a knife, driven to a remote area, tortured and sexually assaulted on 12-26-73 at 20 yrs. old. I was extremely fortunate to survive. As Ms. Sandra experienced the Troopers didn’t believe me either. I was admitted to the hospital for awhile then released. When the detectives drove me around I was finally able to locate the remote area he had taken me to and some people in the house where he had had first parked the vehicle had ID’d the fur from my hood of my coat and his vehicle. The detectives left me alone in their car in the dark while they spoke with the residents. They then returned to the vehicle and one turned to me and said, “We didn’t believe a word you said until we spoke to those people-*we thought you just got in a fight with your boyfriend....*
I had no idea at all my credibility was ever in question. My heart was completely shattered. I will never, ever, ever trust or go to the police again for anything. I’d rather die.
My assailant was executed years later for the rape and murder of a number of other young women. No, his execution didn’t feel like “Justice” to me at all but hey, I’m just a victim.
I hope you have healed from this experience. It sounds like you were lucky to survive.
I am so sorry; sometimes all we have is ourselves & the Lord:(
I am so sorry this happened to you. You didn't deserve to be hurt and you didn't deserve how the police treated you.
I would be lying if I said I was unhappy to find out that your attacker is no longer in this world, but it makes sense that the concept of justice has proven elusive. You cannot erase or atone for some crimes.
You are not just a victim, you are a survivor. We both are. Although my assault didn't go as far as yours, I can to some extent understand how you feel. I'm sorry those officers treated you that way. And you are right it doesn't feel like justice. For some reason, I still look at his mugshot and I don't get gratification. However, I am grateful to be in here. You are here too 🫂❤️🫂
I'm sorry to hear your story and I've heard too many like it. There is several cultural problems with police that cause them to be ineffective at best. They are trained to believe everyone is lying and they are also conditioned to not get involved unless they have too. I spent most of my life around law enforcement, including in my immediate family and even the best meaning officers are mostly ineffective at best. Sadly a similar situation is affecting the medical industry, the days of doing the job to help people are over, they don't trust their patients to tell them the truth and believe their stories. If you try to be your own advocate they feel their authority and competence are being questioned. Our society is quickly losing the human elements and compassion. I'm happy you were strong enough to peservere through tragedy and evil, but sad you had to.
If someone ever did that to my kids, I would be in prison for the rest of my life because those murderers wouldn't be alive for very long after that. I feel so bad for the families of those poor kids.
Nahh ... a jury wouldn't let that happen.
gesundheit, the bible says once you take someone's life, you have forfeited your own
@@staceyking7911 Lev. 24:19-21
Pretty much everybody says that.. and pretty much nobody does that..
@@purple-edge you don't think so? I've never been locked up but I had a co-worker who did 20 years and also watched quite a bit of Big Herc and Jay Williams.
From what I understand there are a lot of people behind bars for getting retaliation for something that was done to their children.
Back in 1988 my mom told about this murder story . I wanted to go camping with my cousins at an old abandoned farm here in Texas . that story made me change my mind . I was only 9 years old . may them four boys rest in peace .
Where at in Texas? I live in North Texas.
@@boomyashocka7400 it was down here deep in south Texas in the McAllen area . the old farm is long gone . its been subdivided into a subdivision.
My parents were buying an acreage rent to own from the Seversons. My mother told me that their daughter was invited go go along with her friends to Gitchie that night. But, she had homework and her parents told her "no." Who knew that having homework may have saved their daughter's life??! The old saying was "I've got the itchy for Gitchie." It was the party place. No park ranger, no closing, no gates. Now it's all blocked off, overgrown, sad, and haunting....
You deserve your own Netflix show, the way you tell the story of these horrible murders is captivating whilst being respectful. Thank you for your channel and keep up the good work.
In case anyone was curious:
Gitchie Manitou means Great Spirit in the Ojibwe language.
I recall a weird horror film from 1978 called Manitou were a native American fetus or something resided on the back of a suburban white woman (yeah, I know). I remember the chant to sumon it "Gitchie Manitou." It had nothing to do with this horrific crime. Just Hollyweird doing its thing.
@@leechurchill1965 I SEEN THAT MOVIE .IT WAS CALLED MANITOU..AND TONY CURTIS WAS IN IT.😁
What is Ojibwe? Is that a Native American tribe? I'm sorry, I've just never heard that. It looks familiar but I'm not sure. I'm not trying to be rude, I just am seriously curious. Tia😊
@@jamierupert7563 You are correct. Ojibwe is a tribe of Native American/First Nation people. They are also referred to as Chippewa.
@@lindsaynaeve6600 Thank you so much😊
Death penalty should be mandatory for these heinous crimes.
@qυιηтεssεηтιαl qυεεη Everyone wants to keep breathing, take that away from them.
@qυιηтεssεηтιαl qυεεη Really? How come nobody ever tries to get their life sentence without the possibility of parole, commuted to death?
Along with mandatory drug testing before death or mandatory organ donation. Make some use out of them
Need to use violent pos criminals for chemical testing
Unfortunately, the death penalty is often postponed for such incredibly long periods, the guilty party dies in prison anyhow.
There are two books written about this horrific crime. They are both written on the lone survivor's memories of what happened.
Thanks, will check them out
Name?.... ISBN#...Etc.?..Author?
The books are Gitchie Girl, written by Paul Hanman and Sandra Hamman, the other book, by the same authors is, Gitchie Girl Uncovered. They can be found on Amazon
what did she say, i want to know her recollections
@@jfrtbikgkdhjbeep9974 clearly the story he just told is her recollection as she was the lone survivor.
I do so admire Sandra for her strength and bravery to turn these no counts in. She is their true friend not forgetting them and the memorial stones in their memory.
Thank you for this amazing description of what happened.
Yes, it was a rock shelter with a fireplace. Gitchee Manitou was an Iowa State Park. My folks and I used go there for nature walks with the dogs. Kids had beer parties there just as they do today. The graffiti is sure colorful, I remember when there was NO grafitti there. I went to school with Mike Hadrath, he lived a block away. I remember his empty seat in speech class at Washington High School. There was no mention of the event by the teachers at the time, certainly NO counselors were present for support.
sad isn't it?
Thats bizarre they never mentioned why he never returned to school.
damn they had a "lets not talk about it" attitude
Things back then were let's say different
Yep, stay quiet, don’t say anything…crap…everybody knew something happened..not protecting anyone..
Such a sad story. I always wonder why people have to deface sites with spray paint like this one. It's as though they can't stand it that the place represents another story; they have to make it all about them instead.
It's getting worse. I'm in PA & see more & more of nature defaced.
I know, it's disgusting.
Cause they feel like just because its abandoned
Children, although they like to think they are adults, with no talent although many like to think they are artists. Good artists don't sulk around in the shadows like cowards defacing others property.
@@xr6lad what about banksy ?
You told the terrible story, with such emotion, such empathy, You are such a nice person, hope this year more and more people subscribe to your channel, you deserve it!!!!!!!!! 🤗
Finally found a true crime i never heard of. RIP
Google Camp Scott Girl Scout murders in OK. I'm a true crime buff & had never heard of that one either & that kinda freaks me out. These local crimes happen & after a few decades, it's like they're forgotten. Oh & make sure you watch the old documentary on the Camp Scott murders on UA-cam. It's enough to curdle your blood.
The creepy part is that in america these kind of places are all over.
Me too now I got something to research
Hi, I'd never heard of these crimes either. I'm from the UK, there seems to be many crimes like these in the US.
How sad that those men were free to do this in the first place. They were nothing but pure evil.
The Lord works in ways
The shelter was built by the CCC in 1934. But there was no caretaker for it , so it started getting wrecked pretty soon after that. It was declared a historic site and there was a movement to restore it about 20 years ago. But it doesn't look like anything ever came out of that.
What was it built and used for? Hunting?
edit : nevermind, I just googled it myself. It was a picnic shelter, if anyone else wants to know.
@@twizz420 yep
wow those CCC camps where everywhere.
@@davidvankirk607 Yes. We've got a lot of them in New England. A lot of our beautiful state parks were established by the CCC. Teens - under supervision - worked on creating the parks. The boys were given $5 a month and the rest of the $ was sent to their parents during the Great Depression. A lot of the stone buildings and fireplaces are still used today in the parks.
@@redpine8665 My grandpa worked on them when he was a young man in West Virginia. I never understood when i was a kid how he knew every road through the trout streams and exactly where it would take us were talking miles of backcountry mountain roads and my dad explained to me well when you built them you should know where they are taking you.
That type of stone shelter was common in the parks where I grew up in Illinois. They would have timber framed roofs and open wall areas with a fireplace and benches or table inside.
Meant for picnics, etc.
Most of then were built by the Civilian Conservation Corps in the 1930's, nice to know Iowa doesn't seem to give a damn about maintaining it anymore ...
My family, as kids, much enjoyed visits in one in Sagamore, Camden Maine. Staying at the Camping part, we'd picnic and hangout in the CCC rustic rock and timber shelter on rainy stretches. Have a campfire in the big fireplace. Put dry seaweed on it: made sounds like popcorn popping as the seaweeds' flotation air bladders popped. Pretended the shelter was a Viking lodge or Pioneer lodge...
Probably they don't want people going out to them anymore. Liability, fire hazards or whatever. A damn shame if you ask me
@@Mac-po1srNo, the State of Iowa seems like it doesn't give a damn about anything "public" anymore...
@@carlcushmanhybels8159 if you ever come to Long Island,NY, you can have a very similar experience. You can’t the have fires on most of the beaches(Besides the barbecues) but definitely camp fires at the coastal camp grounds. It’s wonderful ☺️
That building with the fireplace was the Park Pavillion. It offered a place to gather under a roof, with picnic tables, and you could have a nice fire and warm up the Pavillion. It would have had glass windows as well. It was a good place to get out of the rain and wind and a place to be in the evening before the park closed.
How sad these kids just wanted to have fun
I can feel your heart breaking as you're tell this story, how can people be so evil they were just kids. You're a brave man to be walking all alone out there it seems haunting.
I was getting the same feeling. Didn't like that he was alone. Did he say it was a park?
Yes..you almost feel the creeps are still there.
@@susanbrown2909 remind me of those hill Billy movies that kill people 😳
@@skittlescupcakes7233 that’s exactly what happened
@@sugarbum99 This world full of hatred and evil people smh 🤔😢😫
All of these criminals should be immediately eliminated. No reason to be alive.
Some people just won't understand the logic of that.
We put down animals that kill humans, but somehow, human monsters are spared.
I have a huge problem knowing that I'm providing anything for rapists and murders. I ESPECIALLY don't want to pay for the zzz drug, 10¢ worth of potassium directly to the heart is fine.
Vote Democrats. They are why we don’t have the death penalty. They want to kill babies. But not these animals.
hifi trucker : Absolutely.
@@Itsisawnotiseen and who put the LSD in your kool-aid, sugar?
I find your videos to be super relaxing, even when you’re talking about horrible things that happened apparently. I love your channel, mate. Keep up the great work!
Thanks!
Yes! Sometimes go to sleep listening to the ones I’ve already watch. His voice is super soothing!
@@Esthetician106 same
nothing relaxing about this, jus sad.. :(
Me too. His voice is so relaxing. You should also read voice overs for E books. I think you would be very successful! 💯
The survivors guilt she must have felt when she learned the boys were dead 😕. I hope she too has found some peace in her life.
I've never heard about this horrendous case, so thank you for covering it. That building and the graffiti on it is just crazy looking. What a horrible TRAGEDY on an otherwise perfect day for these innocent kids 😞
Same here. Sad ☹️
Dont go in the woods at night without Mr Glock ! Bad guys hate it when the lead turns on them .
Mr.Smith and Mr.Wesson are pretty good friends of mine, backed up by their six allies.
Stupid, juvenile posts.
@@oldbatwit5102 why stupid? Please explain. I take it that UA-cam has given you all authority and made you chief of such posts! Waiting.......waiting ............
Exactly that's why if i every go camping in woods bring at least 2 or 3 guns and lots of ammunition
@@derekminns2332 Three guns is never enough. I take at least four, and a couple of grenades.
I actually grew up near there. This was something I knew about as a kid, but never knew the details. Thanks for covering their story.
I grew u for awhile right there and never heard about this.
I live 4 miles away...."itchie for the Gitchie." Not anymore...
Excellent video - please post more True Crime.
We're the authors of the bestselling books "Gitchie Girl" and "Gitchie Girl Uncovered." The Gitchie murders and the lone survivor, Sandra Cheskey, have somewhat of a cult following in this area. We've watched all of the UA-cam videos related to Gitchie Manitou, and yours is probably the most accurate one we have watched. You did an excellent job. Even the spot along the river where you believe the shootings likely occurred looks to us to be the same location where we think it probably happened. Partly due to the recent coverage of Gitchie Manitou State Preserve, this once seldom visited area has become a much more popular destination. Those who follow paranormal events feel this is one of the most haunted places in the United States. Sandra Cheskey now sees it as place where she can meditate in peace and feel close to the boys who lost their lives there. Keep up the good work!
Sandra goes there to meditate? How interesting.
You hear about horrible crimes these days all the time but it's been going on since mankind began. Thanks for sharing the story.
The fact this happened 15 minutes from my house it just mind blowing to me
Wow! I was 11 when this happened. So, I wasn't big on watching the news. But, even in Western New York, the parents kept a closer watch on their children. Nice tribute to the memory of these kids. Stay safe and healthy out there! Thank you for sharing a part of your day with us!
I was 5, and from WNY also. I remembered the words "Gitchie Manitou" after all these years but had no cognitive connection to anything until watching this.
I'm from wny. I wasn't born until 82 though
I grew up in South Dakota about 90 miles from Ritchie Manitou and have family that lived in Rock Rapids at the time. It was rural South Dakota/Iowa, people never thought something like that could happen in that area so the kids had much more freedom than they did in other places.
Growing up a New York is a lot different that's a very big place if you grow up in smaller places and Rural Towns.... I am not trying to be rude and just simply saying we didn't have As much going on as we do now I live in a town of the population now 3500 wasn't that much when I was growing up but we hit every house awhina across the highway I was like 8 years old My half sister was 5 years older liver supposed to stay together but we didn't but like I said it's a smalltown wouldn't have to worry about much
@@Bella1neverknows670 You should remember, New York is not New York City. Upstate is very rural. My town had 3k people, the school district was the largest in the state in terms of land area, but had the fewest students. My graduating class had 72 people in it. Mostly farm kids, of which I was technically one. Lived on a farm, but had horses and hay. Most had dairy cows, angus, or grapes.
Your empathy is wonderful
I remember the news report about this case. Even though I lived in Illinois, it was national news. I was twelve at the time, almost 13, the same age as the survivor. I was convinced there were men out there with deer rifles who would get an idea to do the same thing and I became afraid. I used to like to go to an out of the way spot with my friends to hang out, but we stopped doing that after hearing about what happened in Iowa. That poor girl has my prayers.
Though I'm a long time True Crime buff, I've never heard of this case before. Thanks for putting it up.
Absolutely chilling.Thank you for covering this sad story.
Your videos are very well done. They give people a starting point for further research. Keep em coming. Great commentator. Many kudos!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, never heard about this tragedy. May they Rest in Peace and very sorry for what Sandra had to go through, what a hero. 💐
Ugh, the evil that exists in this world is overwhelming. But the perseverance of those who survive evil encounters is inspirational.
Absolutely fascinating story, and I especially liked the “on location” part of the storytelling.
Great video 👍
My mom I was supposed to go out with those guys that night but luckily, my grandmother would not let her
WOW Your mom really got lucky. As a former teenage girl myself. I'll bet she was matter than a wet hen. Until she learned what happened to her friends. This is just horrible.
Because grandma knew that bad things happen when you go out like that.
Crazy
Someone was looking over her, that's really scary thow.
I almost got in a car in 1988 that ended up hitting an oak tree at 110 miles per hour killing all aboard resulting in multiple closed casket funerals.
I feel so bad for that poor girl and the boys families. Thank you for sharing this story.
Why didn't you take us to the site of the original abandoned farm? A very sad case indeed
Sandra must be in her sixties if she’s still alive. I can’t imagine the traumatic affects she’s had to endure through her lifetime and wonder how she’s doing these days. Never knew about this horrific story til now.
The Lord works in ways
A tragic story. Thank you for keeping their stories alive, so time doesn't erase the memories of them. May they all rest in peace.
Again, thank you for another fantastic video. You do a great job finding such interesting topics.
At this time I lived 70 mile from here and don't remember hearing anything about this murder. So strange.
They should have fried the Fry brothers.
To a crisp !
Funny
I was 11 years old at the time this happened and it's creepy to know as a carefree child this evil was going on.. I hope they are resting in peace! Ty..
I've never heard of this before. You did a good job telling the story.
Thanks for sharing this story and paying tribute the victims. May they all rest in peace.
This is horrific. Rest in peace Stewart, Dana, Roger and Mike..I am so glad that Sandra survived, because of her those murderers and rapist got caught. Really weird prison that gets a phone call and lets a prisoner out for a few hours.
More great stuff. I've never heard of this case. Thank you so much for the work you put in.
I remember this. I was in the 5th grade. This happened about 60 miles from my home town in NW Iowa. We traveled to Sioux Falls SD many times as I had many relatives living there. Was big news at the time as these kind of things didn't happen there.
The stone structure with the fire place was a covered open shelter for gatherings. Common in that area at many parks.
Hey Brad, Glad this never happened to us while we were drinking beer out at the Secret Place.
Been a long time, never expected to find you in the UA-cam comment section.
Brad, long time no see or hear, Haven't heard from you since Dallas
Truth almost always more horrifying than fiction. Your vids are remarkable - uncovering little-known or forgotten events/places/curiosities, and you're very conversant about the facts as you lead us on your tour. How you discover them I don't know, but your channels and your style are great.
Another sad story. I'm not advocating a rush to judgement, but, in cases where there is insurmountable evidence along with vile criminality, the death penalty, applied in a timely manner, is a deterrent. We have moved to a system where the victims have little to no rights and criminals have them all.
Well said.
Nah. The death penalty isn't a deterrent, it's vengeance.
@@denzelelysium Punishment is what it is
@@johngnipper8768 You're no better than the murderers. State-sponsored murder is still murder. Vindictiveness is not a virtue, it's a symptom of being cruel and stupid.
@@denzelelysium Well aren't you special, turn the other cheek . That's what I call stupid.... but knock yourself out.
Wow! Incredible and sad story! May they all Rip🙏😢thank you for the history!👍i just dont understand why them psychopaths didnt get the death penalty! That really pisses me off how screwed up this country is! Peoples like that dont deserve to walk this earth!
Capital punishment was abolished in the U.S. State of Iowa in 1965.
Thanks for this Chris. I’ve never heard of this before.
This place is about 30 minutes from my house and I had no clue of this incident until sandy, her husband, and Sandra came to my town to talk about her story, and I got a signed copy of her book
This is the time the brothers got caught. They obviously did crap like this before. I grew up as a teen in the late 80s early 90s and people used to get away with a lot before cameras, cell phones and dna. I imagine the 60s and 70s were insane with people like these brothers running around.
Yup exactly my thoughts, before social media dna and all this technology you could get away with a lot of stuff and its seems this wasn't their first rodeo.
Your demeanor is so calming. These stories shouldn’t calm me but I let your videos play in the background while I’m working. I think my job has driven me to the edge a bit; I fucking hate it. But I love your videos.
Hello Chris. 🙂🙃😉
Wow, what a scary, bizarre story. Good job telling it. Thanks for sharing it. 🤎
I don't subscribe to a lot of UA-cam bloggers, but you do an excellent job of re-visiting the sites of these historic crimes. Keep up the good work!
RIP Gitchie Manitou Murder Victims
This was fascinating - I've been watching your videos for years now but the way you retold this story and recreated the scenes had me riveted. I grew up in the country too and remember hanging out in places like this as a teen - no realizing how dangerous they could be. You should definitely do more of these TrueCrime videos.
I hate seeing places like this so heavily graffitied ... Makes me wanna go to these places were people DIED and power wash off all that paint.
Would people put graffiti all over the remains of a Nazi concentration camp? Nah, thought not.
Bear in mind that some of that graffiti may have been put there by people who had no idea that these horrible events occured there.
@@johnrandall125 did you really compare the concentration camps to a abandoned park pavilion
I had never heard about this story before. Thank you for making this video! Take care.
So heartbreaking. I cannot even imagine what horrors these boys and the brave survivor had to endure. RIP.
Is she still alive
Imagine the parents!
@@skittlescupcakes7233 That's what I was going to try to look up They said the 2 books that were written and there on Amazon and she helped write
@@skittlescupcakes7233 I believe she would be around 61 yrs old
You're a good storyteller, and have lots of empathy. We need more people like you in this world. 👍🏻
WOW - that would have been so scary! So glad they were caught! This is like those Girl Scout murders back in the day! Those still creep me out to this day!!!! Pat
Are you talking about the ones in Osage County Oklahoma
I just watched this and subscribed. I love how you tell a story and show the scene of the crime, stating it may not be exact, but you have me hooked!! I was sick to my stomache by what happened to this girl. Then, of course, the police don't believe it??? Men can be bad, and I mean scary. I am old enough now to articulate and somewhat move past the things I have experienced myself as a young lady. Parents, Hang on tight to your kids, especially teens. Don't ignore their cries for attention!!
Another amazing off the beaten path excellent vlog. Chilling story, heavy topic. Evil people suck.
its sad to see those buildings defaced. such disrespect
also, the ones at lake worth, tx. had fireplaces, meant for picnics.
Wow. What a story. I had never heard of this, but news didn’t always get to where we were (rural) unless it was on the national news and we happened to be watching. Well done, I subscribed. I can’t imagine what the girl went through after finding out her friends were truly dead. What a bad lot of brothers; makes me wonder what their home life was.
Wow, how can 3 people happen to be so evil and in the same family. Also, this was a good example of why you shouldnt trust or teach people to overly trust authority figures. They still listened to them even after they shot them
Inbreeding
@@douglasmacomber2277 they certainly looked like it huh 🤢
I love watching your videos and the depth you put into them. These are better then some of the documentaries I’ve seen. Subbed!
I lived in Sioux City Ia at the time and remember this being on the news. I didn't know the story behind it until now. A very sad story that never should have happened. I hope she has lived a good life despite that horrible night.
There was an incredible book written about this within the last few years called Gitchie Girl. It is an incredible read, you wont be able to put the book down. You can get it on Amazon. I am from Sioux Falls and we used to go to this place when we were younger and it is an eerie feeling, especially at night!!
This is like something out of a horror movie, I presume there may have been some inbreeding with the brothers family? And I don’t say that to be derogatory
violent brain disorder.. probably anthrax, farm poop natural. I knew a whole family with a disorder.. they had deer poaching in common...and marijuana.
That is the dirty little secret, lots of weird family situations in rural America!
@@timnewman1172 definitely not just some rural America problem. Inbreeding is practically a lifestyle in shitholes like Chicago. Between the poverty stricken ghettos and the brainless "progressive alternative sexual lifestyle" champions, I'd say it's more prevalent there than rural communities. Most country folks are good people who are hard working and god fearing, much unlike the trash from metropolitan areas. Just saying 😉👍
Why would you "presume" that? Because you saw a movie once?
I think the Royal families of Europe are pry the most inbreed families ever.
I like your matter-of-fact approach and the respect you have for the subject. No sensationalism.
I wish you the best, sir.
It’s so creepy there. Surprised you go alone! Great video and such a tragic story!
Right?
Jessica Hrutkay ...are you joking? He's a grown-a** man, not a little girl, why would he not go there alone?!! My god your generation is SO weak and cowardly, it's sad and pathetic..
@@branon6565 my generation? U don’t know my age! Wtf is wrong with you insulting someone you’ve never met online?!?! Do u have nothing better to do with your time??? You are sad and pathetic
How cold and sickeningly horrible for these young people who were murdered! I’ve never heard of this true crime, until now. You are remembering these valuable, loved and senselessly lost human beings, to everyone and we appreciate your thoughtfulness and respect for them. I honestly felt fear, and sick in my stomach, as you reported this story. May God rest their souls in peace.
This was a very well done recount. You told the story so well. It's crazy Sandra survived, although I'm glad she did! To the story of the police not believing her! After being raped, threatened & probably believing herself she was going to die. What a wild but tragic story! Such senseless murders. Heartbreaking
I really appreciate the lengths you go to visit and memorialize these sites, regardless of the circumstances that bring you to them. Thanks for doing these.
I couldn't imagine someone doing that to any kids, I couldn't go threw life with out my kids I would just break down and just give up on my self but the other half of me would hunt them down and make them half a slow death that's really mean to say and it would make some of you mad, but my kids are everything to me and my wife would agree!
Paula Holmes ....your name is Paula, you said you've got kids and they mean everything to you, and yet you said you have a wife....think about your comment for a hot minute....
@@branon6565 Think about your comment for a hot minute. Ever hear of using someone else's account?
@@branon6565 Or being gay?
You did a very good job of telling this story my friend....maximum respect...
I can tell this shook you up my my friend... peace...
Sir, your presentation and respectful attitude/mindset you bring with this video and not only this one, your others as well. I love it and leaves me craving more of your videos. And that your not all about subscribers and views. Thank you!!! The research you provide. Thank you!! Please continue on your genuine journey and the work you provide to us!
The brothers actually pulled off a prison escape attempt years later.
Not a story I ever heard. Any kids worst nightmare, horrific. Great documentary. Cheers, Paul
Thats really sad I have never herd about this in my entire life. My heart goes out to all the families affected by this.
I've never heard about it either
Soo very sad, I hope Sandra is doing ok, R.I.P. for the boys. Thank you for sharing!!