It must be so much more fun for you Sarah to have help, however the 'usp' of your site is seeing you 'learning for yourself' how to do things. There are already enough sites showing competent mechanics working on cars - don't loose your uniqueness...
Mr Dos is getting super close to being done. I am excited over this given the fact I remember when it was just a pile of problems! You’ve been patient and Mr Dos has fought you hard, but you have kicked his candy ass! You go girl! Keep it up! Yah, yah!
That it's one lucky mr2. The combination if your meticulous attention to detail and Charlie's exceptional engineering and machining skills should make this thing amazing. Can't wait to see the smile on your face when you finally get to enjoy all your hard work
I’m impressed by the fact you are aware of The Rollin Stones “tongue”. You and Charlie are right about changing a vehicle’s stance. Very smart engineers have spent countless hours perfecting this delicate balance. Great video.
One of the reasons I originally started watching your channel was you and Charlie working together was really entertaining. Kept watching after you guys went your separate ways because you do great work and I enjoy your projects. I'm glad you guys are working together in what ever capacity works for you both and I'm jumping over to Charlie's channel right now to Subscribe.
One of your best videos ever! I first learned about this from "How to Make Your Car Handle" by Fred Phun. Eliminating the bump steer is one the finer points of getting a car to handle well, and I didn't understand it until I read this book. Sarah did even better with the explanation.
I must have watched 100 of your viddies, over the last two weeks, and you're my new favorite car expert. If I win the lottery, you have mega financial backing.
Alignment makes a world of difference. I had a 2002 Acura rsx, got into a ice accident where it hit and jumped a curb. The collision place “fixed” my car but didn’t do the alignment of the suspension. After a couple years and a couple of noticeable unevenly worn tires, I went to a actual alignment/tire garage. They told me and showed me that all four wheels were literally pointing/off in 4 different planes. Which was why I felt like the car was spinning in a circle every time I cross a icy metal grooved bridge.
Excellent content! I love the detail you put into your work, whether it is torquing bolts to spec, cleaning and painting parts before they are re-installed, and now this detailed effort to lower your MR2 correctly. I am the same way with my cars and it is nice to see a like minded enthusiast.
Wow...so impressed with your work and learning a ton! I can't wait to see you finishing up Mr. Dos and taking it out. If you would have had a performance shop do everything that you are doing it would have cost a fortune!
I find that using a scissors jack like found in most cars to change a tire (you can get them cheap at a wrecking yard or pick & pull) works great with a bump steer gauge because you can move it up or down easily. I welded a 3/4” nut to the jack so I can use my cordless power drill and a 3/4” socket to move the jack quickly. Love seeing you do some of the alignment yourself. Get a couple of pieces of plywood cut to 12” x 24” and you can do your toe measurement yourself. Lean the boards up against the side of the tire, one on each side of the car. Using two tape measures compare the distance between the fronts of the boards and the rears of the boards, at ground level, that number is your toe in or out depending on which measurement is larger or smaller. Keep up the great work!
Looks like your MR2 is really coming together well! You should bring it to the MR2 Nationals in Texas this May. There are tons of fun events happening all weekend, and I'm sure plenty of people would love to see it in action.
Wow! That's really an impressive bit of work, Sarah. I've always known about bump steer, but never knew how to measure it, much less, how to correct it. Those links Charlie made look really high--quality too. Heim joints and all. Happy Valentines Day too.
"ALUMINIUM"!!! Thank you! Finaly an American pronouncing that correct! It's a first for everything :-) Now, I'm waiting for "SOLDERING" :-) Thanks, Sarah! Doing great while my MR2 MK3 is in winter hybernating.
❤❤❤Wow your MrDos suspension videos have been amazing! I have performed all of the above on my Volvo AWD wagon... it is indeed, a lot of work to make geometry correction for lowered car. Almost wish i left it alone, lol. I did go as far as making my own 4-wheel alignment machine using high-precision line lasers and Tenhulzen camber-caster tools.
I was thinking along those lines with building my own alignment machine set up until a machinist friend handed me a stock car magazine showing how to do a string alignment using simple tools. After reading the article long ago, a roll of string, tape measure and a camber caster gauge will do the alignment on just about anything with 4 wheels. Most racing teams still do alignments this way and the accuracy is all dependent on how consistent you are in measuring from the same location each time you check say toe on the front and back of the tire. I was skeptical of the "antiquated low tech" method but after verifying the alignment on my 64 Bel Air was 1/4 degree or less difference via a laser alignment machine at a shop, I was sold on the string method as being a viable solution far less expensive. Being consistent in points of measurement is where getting the same readings comes into play when using the string method. Your car should handle far better than stock with all the work you put into correcting the geometry. I came across a Volvo wagon around the late 70s while at a light in Ocean City MD that was lowered with a LS V8 conversion. Total sleeper that would haul the groceries, family and some. 😁
Great "How to" video once again. 👍 On a side note, with all the ugly splits we see all over the place, it's very nice to see Charlie and you remained good friends. Too much hate in this world. You two are proof that you can call it quits but still respect and enjoy each others company. Much love and respect. 💕
WOOHOO! Tag team Master Mechanic's it great to see how you guys dial in the geometry measurements. Honestly I didn't know how much it does make a difference when it comes the hundreds of an inch? Good to know!
Very awesome video! I didn't know there were corrective kits for that when lowering a car, so many *many* thanks for that! Also really awesome to have a friend that can make parts for you!
Wow so much measuring and working it out , I like to lower ride look, but not to low and the wright angle but older car's don't have all of those things so a bit easier 👍🏾
Also just my opinion, I'm glad that Charlie is helping you and that you guys can work together and do projects. It really bothered me when you were so upset when you guys ended it. Everybody needs somebody to help them.
I live in Ohio ( land of the orange barrels ) lot of people lower their cars for looks but the back tires end up on an angle . I know they love it & I don't put them down I just ask how many tires & mufflers they had to change so far . In the land of the orange barrels too low is bad . !!! Nice car good to see lady's working on them
You and your video have a glow about it even the cat wants to say hi hopefully you and Charlie and the cat had a great Valentine’s Day maybe we will see you in some of his videos
FYI, finding an alignment shop willing to align a non stock vehicle might be tough as most will not align it or may align it but the results may not be what you desire. I have 2" dropped spindles on my 64 Bel Air that are designed to keep the same geometry as the stock ones but still have the upgrade of disc brakes. Most alignment shops are looking to get the vehicle in and out quickly with minimal work in adjustment due to the alignment fee charged. If the vehicle is in the "green zone", it doesn't get adjusted and the margin for that zone is wide which may still result in previous wandering or pull etc that was present prior to getting the alignment. I bought a Longacre camber caster bubble gauge years ago to do my own alignment as the "close enough" for most vehicles wasn't close enough for what I prefer. I also encountered most alignment machines not having the capability to go back that many years in their catalog of specs to do the alignment. So my suggestion would be to pick up a Longacre or equivalent camber caster magnetic hub mount gauge which will pay for itself with the cost of 2 to 3 alignments. Longacre also makes toe plates that utilize two tape measures to check the toe or using the string method which I use as it has been reliable and accurate. The other plus side is that you can align anything you own from that point forward including your sand rail, utv or Subaru as it's another valuable tool in your arsenal. While the thought of doing an alignment may sound intimidating, it is relatively straightforward and a useful skill as knowing how to buff paint once you learn the principles of camber, caster, cross caster, toe and bump steer.
The reason why the spring had to come off is due to suspension motion ratios. Meaning when the tire is on the car and weight is on the suspension, the tire is farther out from the control arm inner bolt (fulcrum) than the place where the bottle jack was lifting the LCA. Lifting the LCA closer to the fulcrum effectively makes the spring rate higher, which is why the car comes off the quick jacks or jack stands before you get to normal ride height. That's also why with coilover suspension, adjusting the spring perch up or down changes the ride height of the car more than the distance the spring perch changed.
First of all great nails , secondly happy Valentine's day wish u love in all shapes and forms and thirdly thank you for stellar and continuous content , u rock Sarah! ✌😎
Great content and videos Sarah! Plus extra bonus for Rocking the Rage against the Machine shirt! You and Emilia Hartford are the only female youtubers I watch. Keep up the good work and knowledge coming.
I can appreciate all the work you're putting into the suspension but my 2 was slammed only on sportline springs/tokico adjustables and I never had issues with bumpsteer or spinning out during spirited driving. You might be indestructible after this...
Love the content of these videos, and doing your "Permanently permanent" work on the suspension. Believe it or not, up to this video, I thought you were correcting "bum" steer...
G'day, Sarah! I enjoyed the video! How about... Mr. Fabri-Cobbler for the win! By the way, (did you know) my uncle is the bass in a barbershop quartet. Yesterday was his first time to sing 'so low'. Lol! 🤣 Thank you! Cheers! 😊✌🏼❤️🛠
This is a whole new level for you ,superb content pleased your working with Charlie ... you seem happier with a little help.😃
came to the comments to say the same, looking much happier with a work buddy :)
It must be so much more fun for you Sarah to have help, however the 'usp' of your site is seeing you 'learning for yourself' how to do things. There are already enough sites showing competent mechanics working on cars - don't loose your uniqueness...
@@MiniPerformance lol exes are the absolute worst type of "buddy" to have around
Glad Charlie is still willing to help you and you parted on good terms. Its good to have help sometimes.
bump steer is where the toe in or toe out changes during suspension travel when going over a bump
Mr Dos is getting super close to being done. I am excited over this given the fact I remember when it was just a pile of problems! You’ve been patient and Mr Dos has fought you hard, but you have kicked his candy ass! You go girl! Keep it up! Yah, yah!
I love your attention to detail, it's second to none!❤
It's really nice to see that you are helping out your grandparents
That it's one lucky mr2. The combination if your meticulous attention to detail and Charlie's exceptional engineering and machining skills should make this thing amazing. Can't wait to see the smile on your face when you finally get to enjoy all your hard work
95% of the techs at my dealership don't understand bump steer. You rock!
I'm not flat rate, lol.
Wowsers.........nothing flat about Sarah. I wonder what the rate is......
I’m impressed by the fact you are aware of The Rollin Stones “tongue”. You and Charlie are right about changing a vehicle’s stance. Very smart engineers have spent countless hours perfecting this delicate balance. Great video.
One of the reasons I originally started watching your channel was you and Charlie working together was really entertaining. Kept watching after you guys went your separate ways because you do great work and I enjoy your projects. I'm glad you guys are working together in what ever capacity works for you both and I'm jumping over to Charlie's channel right now to Subscribe.
Sarah you do such a great job in explaining things. Plain simple terms we can understand. Glad Charlie is helping you. As always great video.
"Aluminium" - it warms my British heart to hear you say that 😁
Same here!
One of your best videos ever! I first learned about this from "How to Make Your Car Handle" by Fred Phun. Eliminating the bump steer is one the finer points of getting a car to handle well, and I didn't understand it until I read this book. Sarah did even better with the explanation.
That's a great book ! Learned a lot of info that I applied to my lowered Datsun 510. Handled so much better !
I must have watched 100 of your viddies, over the last two weeks, and you're my new favorite car expert. If I win the lottery, you have mega financial backing.
Alignment makes a world of difference. I had a 2002 Acura rsx, got into a ice accident where it hit and jumped a curb. The collision place “fixed” my car but didn’t do the alignment of the suspension. After a couple years and a couple of noticeable unevenly worn tires, I went to a actual alignment/tire garage. They told me and showed me that all four wheels were literally pointing/off in 4 different planes. Which was why I felt like the car was spinning in a circle every time I cross a icy metal grooved bridge.
Wow the more you watch Mr. Charles, the more impressed you are. The dudes awesome. You two make a great team
Excellent content! I love the detail you put into your work, whether it is torquing bolts to spec, cleaning and painting parts before they are re-installed, and now this detailed effort to lower your MR2 correctly. I am the same way with my cars and it is nice to see a like minded enthusiast.
Wow...so impressed with your work and learning a ton! I can't wait to see you finishing up Mr. Dos and taking it out. If you would have had a performance shop do everything that you are doing it would have cost a fortune!
I find that using a scissors jack like found in most cars to change a tire (you can get them cheap at a wrecking yard or pick & pull) works great with a bump steer gauge because you can move it up or down easily. I welded a 3/4” nut to the jack so I can use my cordless power drill and a 3/4” socket to move the jack quickly. Love seeing you do some of the alignment yourself. Get a couple of pieces of plywood cut to 12” x 24” and you can do your toe measurement yourself. Lean the boards up against the side of the tire, one on each side of the car. Using two tape measures compare the distance between the fronts of the boards and the rears of the boards, at ground level, that number is your toe in or out depending on which measurement is larger or smaller. Keep up the great work!
I'm always amazed at the work you do from the perspective that I could never do what you do. You go, girl!
I like to see that you put care into your work. Some people just don’t care as they should!
Charlie coming over to help you with your rear ..lol
OCD almost always pays off it’s going to be awesome very happy for you, have a happy Valentine’s Day!
Sarah showing the world how to do it right, as usual! Def checking out Charlie's channel. :)
Silver metallic finger nails....that has to add at least 20HP to MR-DOS. LOL Another great video Sarah.
I could watch ya redo the suspension for the rest of my life.. dang banging love mr2s
Wow, this work is great, far beyond what I'm capable of, thanks for the info Sarah and Charlie.
Getting WAYYY better vibes with these Charlie vids. Whatever you guys are doing is working and it shows.
Cool to see you supporting Speedway Motors. They make some great stuff.
Toe in on compression is probably good for a car known for snap oversteer. The rear end will feel more stable with mid corner bumps.
I always look forward to your posts
Looks like your MR2 is really coming together well! You should bring it to the MR2 Nationals in Texas this May. There are tons of fun events happening all weekend, and I'm sure plenty of people would love to see it in action.
Wow! That's really an impressive bit of work, Sarah. I've always known about bump steer, but never knew how to measure it, much less, how to correct it. Those links Charlie made look really high--quality too. Heim joints and all. Happy Valentines Day too.
You did very well on explaining the use of the jig and it's purpose
Good to see ya working on cars again
Wow. I’d literally just want to drive it. This MR2 has been stripped and put back together so many times now. That was exhausting to watch 😂
"ALUMINIUM"!!! Thank you! Finaly an American pronouncing that correct! It's a first for everything :-) Now, I'm waiting for "SOLDERING" :-) Thanks, Sarah! Doing great while my MR2 MK3 is in winter hybernating.
Science Sarah would have figured this out in no time!!😉 Happy Valentine's day ❤️
❤❤❤Wow your MrDos suspension videos have been amazing! I have performed all of the above on my Volvo AWD wagon... it is indeed, a lot of work to make geometry correction for lowered car. Almost wish i left it alone, lol. I did go as far as making my own 4-wheel alignment machine using high-precision line lasers and Tenhulzen camber-caster tools.
I was thinking along those lines with building my own alignment machine set up until a machinist friend handed me a stock car magazine showing how to do a string alignment using simple tools.
After reading the article long ago, a roll of string, tape measure and a camber caster gauge will do the alignment on just about anything with 4 wheels. Most racing teams still do alignments this way and the accuracy is all dependent on how consistent you are in measuring from the same location each time you check say toe on the front and back of the tire.
I was skeptical of the "antiquated low tech" method but after verifying the alignment on my 64 Bel Air was 1/4 degree or less difference via a laser alignment machine at a shop, I was sold on the string method as being a viable solution far less expensive. Being consistent in points of measurement is where getting the same readings comes into play when using the string method.
Your car should handle far better than stock with all the work you put into correcting the geometry. I came across a Volvo wagon around the late 70s while at a light in Ocean City MD that was lowered with a LS V8 conversion. Total sleeper that would haul the groceries, family and some. 😁
@@andrewawf9889 Strings do work well, but i found they get in the way, or bumped out of alignment. Plus i had to be fancy I guess :-)
Great "How to" video once again. 👍 On a side note, with all the ugly splits we see all over the place, it's very nice to see Charlie and you remained good friends. Too much hate in this world. You two are proof that you can call it quits but still respect and enjoy each others company. Much love and respect. 💕
WOOHOO! Tag team Master Mechanic's it great to see how you guys dial in the geometry measurements. Honestly I didn't know how much it does make a difference when it comes the hundreds of an inch? Good to know!
Very awesome video! I didn't know there were corrective kits for that when lowering a car, so many *many* thanks for that!
Also really awesome to have a friend that can make parts for you!
Nice one Sarah pretty bang on with not to much adjustment 👍 Charlie did a fantastic job on the parts 😁
Excellent content.
Always has been. You are getting so polished with your production
Is Anybody else here glad Charlie is going to be helping out Surrah with her 'Rear End'??
lol
You look better! I have been watching you a long time - when Charlie was first on there! I'm glad to see him back!!!
Wow so much measuring and working it out , I like to lower ride look, but not to low and the wright angle but older car's don't have all of those things so a bit easier 👍🏾
I love budders
I think any great alignment technician knowing your modifications would due all that for you and be happy to help
Charlie is extremely talented that's awesome.
Nice job Sarah, you always doing everything as perfect as possible. I really like your videos.
Excellent! HAPPY VALENTINES DAY!
Hope you had a nice Valentine’s Day and are feeling better. 🙂
Also just my opinion, I'm glad that Charlie is helping you and that you guys can work together and do projects. It really bothered me when you were so upset when you guys ended it. Everybody needs somebody to help them.
I have absolutely no idea what you were doing here...but I watched it anyway 💕
I live in Ohio ( land of the orange barrels ) lot of people lower their cars for looks but the back tires end up on an angle . I know they love it & I don't put them down I just ask how many tires & mufflers they had to change so far . In the land of the orange barrels too low is bad . !!! Nice car good to see lady's working on them
nice to see charlie back in videos
hi Sarah! just want to say thank you. i am having so much fun going through your vids starting at oldest first. i have about 8 months to go. hugs!
Excellent video and explanation of the suspension geometry. Thanks
You and your video have a glow about it even the cat wants to say hi hopefully you and Charlie and the cat had a great Valentine’s Day maybe we will see you in some of his videos
Yay Charlie!
Dealing with thousands of an inch has to be exhausting.
Those parts are sweet looking. Very pimp. 👍🏻
FYI, finding an alignment shop willing to align a non stock vehicle might be tough as most will not align it or may align it but the results may not be what you desire.
I have 2" dropped spindles on my 64 Bel Air that are designed to keep the same geometry as the stock ones but still have the upgrade of disc brakes. Most alignment shops are looking to get the vehicle in and out quickly with minimal work in adjustment due to the alignment fee charged. If the vehicle is in the "green zone", it doesn't get adjusted and the margin for that zone is wide which may still result in previous wandering or pull etc that was present prior to getting the alignment.
I bought a Longacre camber caster bubble gauge years ago to do my own alignment as the "close enough" for most vehicles wasn't close enough for what I prefer. I also encountered most alignment machines not having the capability to go back that many years in their catalog of specs to do the alignment.
So my suggestion would be to pick up a Longacre or equivalent camber caster magnetic hub mount gauge which will pay for itself with the cost of 2 to 3 alignments.
Longacre also makes toe plates that utilize two tape measures to check the toe or using the string method which I use as it has been reliable and accurate. The other plus side is that you can align anything you own from that point forward including your sand rail, utv or Subaru as it's another valuable tool in your arsenal.
While the thought of doing an alignment may sound intimidating, it is relatively straightforward and a useful skill as knowing how to buff paint once you learn the principles of camber, caster, cross caster, toe and bump steer.
The reason why the spring had to come off is due to suspension motion ratios. Meaning when the tire is on the car and weight is on the suspension, the tire is farther out from the control arm inner bolt (fulcrum) than the place where the bottle jack was lifting the LCA. Lifting the LCA closer to the fulcrum effectively makes the spring rate higher, which is why the car comes off the quick jacks or jack stands before you get to normal ride height. That's also why with coilover suspension, adjusting the spring perch up or down changes the ride height of the car more than the distance the spring perch changed.
I did finish a MEE degree program. Happy to help if I can.
Wow.. this is a whole new level of detail regarding checking suspension geometry.
Very cool to see you and charlie work together once again :)
Thank You. wow, the best footage of Butter I've ever seen, boy lookin' good 👍
What’s up Garage Sarah! Happy Valentine’s Day. 😉
thank you Sarah - absolutely fascinating! don't think I'll be lowering my land rover - possibly the opposite! enthralling nonetheless 😃😘
You did great explaining it girl
ok sarah nice to see u and charlie working together nice one take care love the vids
Next level geek in action here! Love it!
First of all great nails , secondly happy Valentine's day wish u love in all shapes and forms and thirdly thank you for stellar and continuous content , u rock Sarah! ✌😎
Sarah, keep being happy 😀, we the subs like that your happy
I was very impressed by the Rolling Stones reference.
You could put a small piece ot two of 2x6 under the bottle jack to take up space.
“That’s Butters”. “Hi Buttface”. LOL Crack me up.
Great content and videos Sarah! Plus extra bonus for Rocking the Rage against the Machine shirt! You and Emilia Hartford are the only female youtubers I watch. Keep up the good work and knowledge coming.
Well done. You did do pretty good explaining. Nice one!
Great ginger cat!!🐈🐈🐈🐈
Great nails Sarah 😎 sparkly. Great video 👍 hella great info I learned a lot. Thanks and happy Valentine's 💘🤗
Lovely Jubbly, as always, a very interesting video.
Hey girl. You can call that tool the "Gene Simmons tool"
I enjoy watching your videos.
😬👍👍
But gene Simmons sucks
Sarah and Woman Driver need to Collab. Period. They would blow up. I'm doing my part for my demographic.
Happy Sarah's day and tune
Nice work! Gotta check my bump steer now
Great video,head hurts with all this math....lol...oh well off to Charlie channel to watch the fabulous fab work...
Sarah, you're such a cutie. I'm happy that pretty little mr2 is getting upgrades. Hope your valentines day was good.
Yay! Sarah vid on Friday!!
Maybe we'll see you at Street Car Takeover tomorrow?
What a great device.
Seeing lots of Charley lately.....y’all back together again......good for u!
I can appreciate all the work you're putting into the suspension but my 2 was slammed only on sportline springs/tokico adjustables and I never had issues with bumpsteer or spinning out during spirited driving. You might be indestructible after this...
Channel so much better now that Charlie is back.
Great explanation. 🍪 Your best will always be good enough for me.
Love the content of these videos, and doing your "Permanently permanent" work on the suspension. Believe it or not, up to this video, I thought you were correcting "bum" steer...
tech Tip: buy a set off heim joint dust boots. with some grease fore a longer life span.with out the wil worn out faster.
Wow that car is clean!
Great video. Cool nails! I hope you're feeling better😊
G'day, Sarah! I enjoyed the video! How about... Mr. Fabri-Cobbler for the win! By the way, (did you know) my uncle is the bass in a barbershop quartet. Yesterday was his first time to sing 'so low'. Lol! 🤣 Thank you!
Cheers! 😊✌🏼❤️🛠