I'd argue that Tomura Shigaraki from bnha is a Karkat turned Signless, or at least a corrupted "shadow" equivalent due to AFO's influence - he mellows out and gets quieter later on but clearly likes hearing himself talk at the start of his arc - incredibly stubborn, dead set on his goals and reacts very badly to failure - has red eyes and only gets more red in his design as his arc continues, peaking at the red coat at the end of the MVA arc and the red trenchcoat in the second movie (which seems to be mostly canon so I'm counting it) - uniquely marginalized (kind of, through a very complicated and fucked up series of events leading up to and including his indoctrination by AFO) - significant relationship with anger, no explanation needed - not straight, because I said so (spinneraki ftw) - interested in people, he's surprisingly observant and often analyzes others (though he's not always right), we see it with his attempt to recruit Stain, trying to recruit Bakugou by bringing up him getting chained up at the tournament, how he approaches learning Kai's motives and then putting all his trust in Toga and Twice during the overhaul arc, his later admission he wants to destroy everything... except what makes the other league members happy, how he talks about Twice wanting to save Giran during the MVA fight, just his behavior towards the league in general - mental health is significantly impacted based on if and when he remembers his mother (and family in general), having literal panic attacks as a child and dissociating and puking mid fight as an adult, was abused by his father and only kept somewhat happy pre-quirk manifestation by his mom, sister, maternal grandparents, and later the knowledge of his paternal grandmother's identity - regularly monologues at his opponents on why and how they suck and how the league will kick their ass, all of his rants are just more verbose versions of "L + skill issue + seethe + mald + cope" because he canonically played league of legends as a teen and knows no other ways of reacting to victory, this behavior only lessens once he gets literally possessed When we first meet him in his twiggy tumblr sexyman era, he matches Karkat almost to a T - after getting groomed into dissociation and partial amnesia, he loses all memory of his family for most of his life, including his mother - starts out as a very irritable and incompetent leader and his first actual mission fails spectacularly, his second one goes fine for a while and then falls apart within minutes - definitely in hiding, could be argued to be partially due to marginalization - again, I don't gotta explain him being grumpy and prickly, he calms down a little but it never fully goes away - very bad at what he does at first, ie leading the league - self-centered and doesn't like admitting his mistakes or when his temper causes him to lose out on allies He gradually improves and is quite competent by the end of MVA, which is the peak of his arc before his character development is backtracked due to aforementioned possession - reverses his amnesia and remembers he had a good mom (depending on your definition) - fully actualized leader, earns the respect and admiration of his most critical team member and also that giant fucking rock dude - again I'd argue the way he treats Twice, both during MVA and the overhaul arc, as counting under "helping others on their own terms" but that could just be my bias talking because I'm partial to the monochrome deadpool - before the start of MVA the league has been on the run for a month with very little guidance from Tomura, during the early parts of the arc he goes without sleep for days while still not communicating with his crew, and then after the end of the arc he isolates himself to let the doctor experiment on him - found family babyyyyy - not gay as in happy but queer as in polycule (and also gay as in homosexual) again, because I said so (minus Toga obviously) - we don't know how the current arc is going to end but I'd argue the way he reacts to AFO possessing him and his behavior afterwards are being at least somewhat equivalent to unwilling martyrdom, death of the mind and the self rather than the body, if you will Also Spinner is 100% a Vantas too, though I don't know if he's more Karkat or Kankri, I'm leaning towards Karkat because he's a knight of void but idk - certified yapper - very hardheaded and takes a while to convince to change his beliefs or approach in any way - pink by birth, red by choice - is actually a part of a marginalized group in the setting, self-isolated due to rampant bigotry, and later has to face a chapter of a hate group that specifically call him out and dehumanize him because the league is robbing their base - has his outbursts occasionally but mostly has a very subdued relationship with his anger, which is justified in most cases, either because someone is being bigoted towards him, are acting like they're better than him, or the subplot of MVA where he's upset with Tomura's lack of direct leadership for the month where the league's floundering, but even if his anger isn't loud it's still important to his character and development - incredibly, deeply, painfully in love with Tomura, I will not take any criticism, this isn't even headcanon at this point they're just gaymers - his interpretation of the right thing at the start is borrowed from someone else but he fully believes and sticks to it, later on his idea of it evolves (in both positive and negative ways) but he's equally as committed to it, he disregards his actual desires and emotions in favor of doing something he thinks will help Tomura - he doesn't hate himself, he hates how empty and hollow he is and how he's never able to do enough to justify his place in the league/by Tomura's side (and other copes void players with marginalized identities tell themselves to avoid crying in the bathroom at 11 pm) - regularly puts himself in danger, up to and including accepting being given a quirk that fucks up his body and mind, all because he thinks it's his sole duty to help Tomura (there's a very unhealthy pattern here but the guy saw two of his friends die, one hospitalized and arrested, and the last person his age that treats him like a person is his gamerbuddy mancrush that got possessed and put through unimaginable torture, so it didn't exactly come out of nowhere) - very low self-worth, as previously established - beats himself up mentally but also actually hurts himself by taking on ridiculous responsibilities for Tomura's sake - is manipulated into being a leader and symbol for a revolution without having any input on how it's run - used to be a shutin due to living in a bigoted community in the south - very grumpy and prickly, just a very sensitive guy in general, all his feelings are big feelings - probably in denial about liking men - ass at fighting when he's first introduced, gets better eventually but never really masters it - while Spinner himself is not a bad-faith parody, the newest war arc includes a mutant quirk revolution which includes a self-interested rich mutant leading the rally for personal gain, a bunch of mutant civilians getting angry at and attacking "human-faced people" (actual quote), and a mutant UA student claiming what they're doing is "setting the movement back 30 years", all the while the quirk Spinner was given prevents him from speaking or even thinking clearly, leading to him basically being used as a living mascot by the rich guy, this seems to be hori's attempt at "criticizing" social justice movements, needless to say it's bad - this changes later but he starts out basing all of his actions purely on Stain's words, not even because he fully believes in them but because Stain is the first person he's seen countering the status quo and he feels carrying on his legacy gives his life purpose, he almost compromises the league's first mission because he holds Stain's ideology above all else, and he brings it up a lot for the first few arcs he's in - Spinner is autistic, I will not elaborate (please ask to me elaborate please please please pl) - his internal set of rules is basically just what Stain said, and he sticks to those rules to the letter until around the middle of the MVA arc - we don't get to learn if and how his views on hero society change after MVA, but before that he still believed that hero society was good in theory but needed to be cleared of bad apples, he even idolized All Might despite being a part of a group that was fighting and actively trying to kill him, and he was conflicted about Tomura's decision to kill cops when retrieving Kai, I hate to admit it but he's a reformist, or at least started out as one - denial about the corrupt system, denial about his own unhealthy coping mechanisms, denial about being manipulated by AFO, denial about being hopelessly in love with his best friend, there's no shortage of denial just take your pick There's not much here for Signless other than themes of isolation and being an unwilling martyr, but these are my half-baked thoughts born from the darkest saddest depths of my autistic obsession with a gaggle of fictional gay criminals
@@BlenditMedia I think about this series way too much lol especially the villains so I have a lot of these ready to go :3c I'm eating drywall as we speak
love the fact that this video is starting to affirm my recent, already pretty strong suspicions that number 5 from the umbrella academy is lowkey a bit vantas coded
@@BlenditMediaidkkkk THERES JUST SOMETHING ABOUT HIM. i mean the dude has a literal physical fight with himself (very karkat) (the entire fighting w ur future and past and alternate past future selves thing honestly) just something about the way he like. feels so responsible for the fate of the world? also very dad-leader trying to keep his family from killing eachother and desperately trying to get them to work together? the ISOLATION. oh the isolation THAT'S LIKE HIS ENTIRE THING. he's not associated w the colour red really but i feel like he's very. red-coded? in a way? the daddy issues. "not very good at what he does, at first" what else can i say besides. they should honestly rename him to five "really sucks at time travel to the point he refuses to attempt it most of the time bcs he knows it'll probably backfire" hargreeves at this point my man does NOT know what he's doing!!! also it's just something about the way he talks. like he talks very "karkat if he was somewhat normal and calm and not so shouty all the time" imo
this started as like. a random shower thought about a week ago and has now consumed my entire brain. all i think about now is five/karkat parallels it's a curse
The more I watch the list, the more I realize my Homestuck human OC (who exists on my own AU version of Earth C), Dawn Ionnut, is a Vantas... Edit: She's NOT sexist, but GOD does she fit pretty much everything else...
.....I am ALSO 5 minutes in and rapidly realizing one of my favorite characters in my most recent written works is a Vantas, just flavored with more general misanthropy rather than specifically misogyny. Ooops?
yeah, i'm removing the ones with the old host. i don't know how those episodes got unprivated but i really, really do not want the old episodes to be up. sorry about that. you were right that the episode about TUA was recorded in early 2020 though; unfortunately that tipped me off that something happened to those videos' privacy settings.
@@BlenditMedia Sorry about that. I'm glad I could help you figure that out. I would love to see some of those characters/pieces of media revisited in the future if you decide to do more Homestuck content. (TUA and MHA). I'm new to this channel so I didn't know something happened with the old host.
I am in the process of revamping this channel, and while i probably won’t be returning to exactly the old format, I really want to revisit both of those pieces of media now that there’s more of both. And yeah, in retrospect it is hilarious that I pinned Klaus as the transmasc-coded one and not Viktor lol. I also tried not to be public about what happened; we just had a falling out and she asked to be disassociated from the podcast. Didn’t want to go back on that request haha. Seriously though, thank you for commenting and thank you for your interest :) i really really hope to come back to these someday.
I see where you're coming from most people it isn't the slur to but all, I'm still a very young queer in a fairly accepting area and I've never met someone who considers it's a slur but I am young and I cannot speak for the entire community.
I appreciate the thought from a member of our queer family 💜 I guess where I'm coming from (as someone who identifies as fagdyke gender and queer sexuality) is that for all that I love the word and hold it close to my heart, I do still want to hold space for the people who do not relate to it.
When Sunset Shimmer is qualified as a Vantas
Oh now THAT is a good pick!!!
white people arent analyzing characters through jungian archetypes anymore, theyre using homestuck characters
That is so interesting. I have never imagined Kankri as having a southern drawl, but it makes so much sense in hindsight.
Yeah it suits him
MY AUTISM GO BRRRR MORE OF THIS BEAUTY PLEASE 💖✨️🤩
Finally someone who doesn't call Catra a Vriska and gets it.
Yeah I think y'all called that one cause it's Adora that's the Vriska
@@BlenditMedia i will continue to endlessly scream my "glimmer is a vriska" propaganda until the day i die
.....fuck I forgot about that when I made the graphics in 2021 lmfao
@@BlenditMedia honestly, I forgot you made those until you released this. Now I have more media literacy videos to add to the media literacy playlist
Oooh would you be able to link that?
I'd argue that Tomura Shigaraki from bnha is a Karkat turned Signless, or at least a corrupted "shadow" equivalent due to AFO's influence
- he mellows out and gets quieter later on but clearly likes hearing himself talk at the start of his arc
- incredibly stubborn, dead set on his goals and reacts very badly to failure
- has red eyes and only gets more red in his design as his arc continues, peaking at the red coat at the end of the MVA arc and the red trenchcoat in the second movie (which seems to be mostly canon so I'm counting it)
- uniquely marginalized (kind of, through a very complicated and fucked up series of events leading up to and including his indoctrination by AFO)
- significant relationship with anger, no explanation needed
- not straight, because I said so (spinneraki ftw)
- interested in people, he's surprisingly observant and often analyzes others (though he's not always right), we see it with his attempt to recruit Stain, trying to recruit Bakugou by bringing up him getting chained up at the tournament, how he approaches learning Kai's motives and then putting all his trust in Toga and Twice during the overhaul arc, his later admission he wants to destroy everything... except what makes the other league members happy, how he talks about Twice wanting to save Giran during the MVA fight, just his behavior towards the league in general
- mental health is significantly impacted based on if and when he remembers his mother (and family in general), having literal panic attacks as a child and dissociating and puking mid fight as an adult, was abused by his father and only kept somewhat happy pre-quirk manifestation by his mom, sister, maternal grandparents, and later the knowledge of his paternal grandmother's identity
- regularly monologues at his opponents on why and how they suck and how the league will kick their ass, all of his rants are just more verbose versions of "L + skill issue + seethe + mald + cope" because he canonically played league of legends as a teen and knows no other ways of reacting to victory, this behavior only lessens once he gets literally possessed
When we first meet him in his twiggy tumblr sexyman era, he matches Karkat almost to a T
- after getting groomed into dissociation and partial amnesia, he loses all memory of his family for most of his life, including his mother
- starts out as a very irritable and incompetent leader and his first actual mission fails spectacularly, his second one goes fine for a while and then falls apart within minutes
- definitely in hiding, could be argued to be partially due to marginalization
- again, I don't gotta explain him being grumpy and prickly, he calms down a little but it never fully goes away
- very bad at what he does at first, ie leading the league
- self-centered and doesn't like admitting his mistakes or when his temper causes him to lose out on allies
He gradually improves and is quite competent by the end of MVA, which is the peak of his arc before his character development is backtracked due to aforementioned possession
- reverses his amnesia and remembers he had a good mom (depending on your definition)
- fully actualized leader, earns the respect and admiration of his most critical team member and also that giant fucking rock dude
- again I'd argue the way he treats Twice, both during MVA and the overhaul arc, as counting under "helping others on their own terms" but that could just be my bias talking because I'm partial to the monochrome deadpool
- before the start of MVA the league has been on the run for a month with very little guidance from Tomura, during the early parts of the arc he goes without sleep for days while still not communicating with his crew, and then after the end of the arc he isolates himself to let the doctor experiment on him
- found family babyyyyy
- not gay as in happy but queer as in polycule (and also gay as in homosexual) again, because I said so (minus Toga obviously)
- we don't know how the current arc is going to end but I'd argue the way he reacts to AFO possessing him and his behavior afterwards are being at least somewhat equivalent to unwilling martyrdom, death of the mind and the self rather than the body, if you will
Also Spinner is 100% a Vantas too, though I don't know if he's more Karkat or Kankri, I'm leaning towards Karkat because he's a knight of void but idk
- certified yapper
- very hardheaded and takes a while to convince to change his beliefs or approach in any way
- pink by birth, red by choice
- is actually a part of a marginalized group in the setting, self-isolated due to rampant bigotry, and later has to face a chapter of a hate group that specifically call him out and dehumanize him because the league is robbing their base
- has his outbursts occasionally but mostly has a very subdued relationship with his anger, which is justified in most cases, either because someone is being bigoted towards him, are acting like they're better than him, or the subplot of MVA where he's upset with Tomura's lack of direct leadership for the month where the league's floundering, but even if his anger isn't loud it's still important to his character and development
- incredibly, deeply, painfully in love with Tomura, I will not take any criticism, this isn't even headcanon at this point they're just gaymers
- his interpretation of the right thing at the start is borrowed from someone else but he fully believes and sticks to it, later on his idea of it evolves (in both positive and negative ways) but he's equally as committed to it, he disregards his actual desires and emotions in favor of doing something he thinks will help Tomura
- he doesn't hate himself, he hates how empty and hollow he is and how he's never able to do enough to justify his place in the league/by Tomura's side (and other copes void players with marginalized identities tell themselves to avoid crying in the bathroom at 11 pm)
- regularly puts himself in danger, up to and including accepting being given a quirk that fucks up his body and mind, all because he thinks it's his sole duty to help Tomura (there's a very unhealthy pattern here but the guy saw two of his friends die, one hospitalized and arrested, and the last person his age that treats him like a person is his gamerbuddy mancrush that got possessed and put through unimaginable torture, so it didn't exactly come out of nowhere)
- very low self-worth, as previously established
- beats himself up mentally but also actually hurts himself by taking on ridiculous responsibilities for Tomura's sake
- is manipulated into being a leader and symbol for a revolution without having any input on how it's run
- used to be a shutin due to living in a bigoted community in the south
- very grumpy and prickly, just a very sensitive guy in general, all his feelings are big feelings
- probably in denial about liking men
- ass at fighting when he's first introduced, gets better eventually but never really masters it
- while Spinner himself is not a bad-faith parody, the newest war arc includes a mutant quirk revolution which includes a self-interested rich mutant leading the rally for personal gain, a bunch of mutant civilians getting angry at and attacking "human-faced people" (actual quote), and a mutant UA student claiming what they're doing is "setting the movement back 30 years", all the while the quirk Spinner was given prevents him from speaking or even thinking clearly, leading to him basically being used as a living mascot by the rich guy, this seems to be hori's attempt at "criticizing" social justice movements, needless to say it's bad
- this changes later but he starts out basing all of his actions purely on Stain's words, not even because he fully believes in them but because Stain is the first person he's seen countering the status quo and he feels carrying on his legacy gives his life purpose, he almost compromises the league's first mission because he holds Stain's ideology above all else, and he brings it up a lot for the first few arcs he's in
- Spinner is autistic, I will not elaborate (please ask to me elaborate please please please pl)
- his internal set of rules is basically just what Stain said, and he sticks to those rules to the letter until around the middle of the MVA arc
- we don't get to learn if and how his views on hero society change after MVA, but before that he still believed that hero society was good in theory but needed to be cleared of bad apples, he even idolized All Might despite being a part of a group that was fighting and actively trying to kill him, and he was conflicted about Tomura's decision to kill cops when retrieving Kai, I hate to admit it but he's a reformist, or at least started out as one
- denial about the corrupt system, denial about his own unhealthy coping mechanisms, denial about being manipulated by AFO, denial about being hopelessly in love with his best friend, there's no shortage of denial just take your pick
There's not much here for Signless other than themes of isolation and being an unwilling martyr, but these are my half-baked thoughts born from the darkest saddest depths of my autistic obsession with a gaggle of fictional gay criminals
I feel like you have tapped into some of the deep philosophical conversations we were having in 2021 about BNHA because this rocks
@@BlenditMedia I think about this series way too much lol especially the villains so I have a lot of these ready to go :3c I'm eating drywall as we speak
@morrowzoranov yaaaaaaay it’s chalky :) i love media analysis
oh my god best thing to see on my youtube while im high thank you blend it media
YAY I WAS HIGH WHEN I MADE IT DGSJSJDHDJS
love the fact that this video is starting to affirm my recent, already pretty strong suspicions that number 5 from the umbrella academy is lowkey a bit vantas coded
Oooooh please elaborateee
@@BlenditMediaidkkkk THERES JUST SOMETHING ABOUT HIM. i mean the dude has a literal physical fight with himself (very karkat) (the entire fighting w ur future and past and alternate past future selves thing honestly) just something about the way he like. feels so responsible for the fate of the world? also very dad-leader trying to keep his family from killing eachother and desperately trying to get them to work together? the ISOLATION. oh the isolation THAT'S LIKE HIS ENTIRE THING. he's not associated w the colour red really but i feel like he's very. red-coded? in a way? the daddy issues. "not very good at what he does, at first" what else can i say besides. they should honestly rename him to five "really sucks at time travel to the point he refuses to attempt it most of the time bcs he knows it'll probably backfire" hargreeves at this point my man does NOT know what he's doing!!! also it's just something about the way he talks. like he talks very "karkat if he was somewhat normal and calm and not so shouty all the time" imo
this started as like. a random shower thought about a week ago and has now consumed my entire brain. all i think about now is five/karkat parallels it's a curse
The more I watch the list, the more I realize my Homestuck human OC (who exists on my own AU version of Earth C), Dawn Ionnut, is a Vantas...
Edit: She's NOT sexist, but GOD does she fit pretty much everything else...
I have so much more Knowledge now!
and I can torture my friends with the fact that Shrek is Karkat
Yaaaaaay all my friends hate it when I say that toooooooo
Bucky!!! Love to hear you again on Blend it media. A new episode is a great day. Time 4me to see Vantas characters everywhere 🤣
Hehehe yay I'm glad to be back! I gotta make a community post with the checklists
.....I am ALSO 5 minutes in and rapidly realizing one of my favorite characters in my most recent written works is a Vantas, just flavored with more general misanthropy rather than specifically misogyny. Ooops?
My job here is proceeding as planned >:3
Babe wake up new blend it media video!
Posted at 1am MST when all the homestucks are awake lol
I was up I just didn’t know who you were two days ago😂
Music is too loud.
I don't think this I'm going to watch this right now but I'm glad it exists. Thanks for the good work!
Hope you enjoy it!
An an individual with autism, I'm interested in your reasoning why you believe Kankri it. A few examples would be nice, if that's okay.
Oh jee, I wonder why my comment was ignored. Couldn't possibly be selective ableism...
rin okumura is a karkat and yukio is a kankri.... it all makes sense
hell yeah, staying subscribed paid off!!
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜thank you💜💜💜💜💜💜
Welcome back!!!!!!!
Thank u!!!!!
@@BlenditMedia :)
Idk if y'all have played wandersong but I see Miriam the Witch as a vantas
It’s absolutely on my list but I unfortunately haven’t gotten around to it yet 3: good eye tho!!!!
Ocean O'Connell Rosenberg from Ride the Cyclone is such a Kankri but like ableist instead of sexist
YES
Homer + Flanders = Vantas
i love this video so much but the music is so loud
Hey is the but make it Homestuck videos disappearing for anyone else?!
yeah, i'm removing the ones with the old host. i don't know how those episodes got unprivated but i really, really do not want the old episodes to be up. sorry about that. you were right that the episode about TUA was recorded in early 2020 though; unfortunately that tipped me off that something happened to those videos' privacy settings.
@@BlenditMedia Sorry about that. I'm glad I could help you figure that out. I would love to see some of those characters/pieces of media revisited in the future if you decide to do more Homestuck content. (TUA and MHA). I'm new to this channel so I didn't know something happened with the old host.
I am in the process of revamping this channel, and while i probably won’t be returning to exactly the old format, I really want to revisit both of those pieces of media now that there’s more of both. And yeah, in retrospect it is hilarious that I pinned Klaus as the transmasc-coded one and not Viktor lol.
I also tried not to be public about what happened; we just had a falling out and she asked to be disassociated from the podcast. Didn’t want to go back on that request haha. Seriously though, thank you for commenting and thank you for your interest :) i really really hope to come back to these someday.
queer isnt a slur
it was, but it isnt
just subbed (thumbs up)
Believe me, I call myself queer often, but I did want to be respectful of people who don't like hearing it.
I see where you're coming from most people it isn't the slur to but all,
I'm still a very young queer in a fairly accepting area and I've never met someone who considers it's a slur but I am young and I cannot speak for the entire community.
I appreciate the thought from a member of our queer family 💜 I guess where I'm coming from (as someone who identifies as fagdyke gender and queer sexuality) is that for all that I love the word and hold it close to my heart, I do still want to hold space for the people who do not relate to it.
Good vid but could really use better audio mixing.
Yeah unfortunately I realized that too late D: ty tho ♥♥♥
Is Robin not Shoeonhead?
Oh my goodness no, Robin is a good friend who's a very cool person now into BNHA and JJK!
3 minutes in I think my my Mc is one ops-
Minus the Messinac complex and (some) misogyny and rudeness.
He's polite to most people
And his mind can be changed.
The main difference so far is that my Mc is all about self improvement even if he kinda hates himself
Mines mostly a karkat but he is autistic
ADAM PARRISH HYDSJKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
disgustingly realizing im a vantas
portgas d ace is a karkat and its not even funny
I would call ROTTMNT leonardo/donatello vantases. karkat/kankri, respectively! and perhaps splinter...?