As I understand it, the issue with energy companies that bill us is that they do not produce any energy to sell us. They are purely billing agents (i.e.middle men) however; what they are actually doing is to sell us debt but they are not registered with the Financial Conduct Authority as credit agencies and are therefore acting illegally/unlawfully. Also, they do not own the meters in your home or that are attached to it (external meters).
They don't generate electricity or produce gas but they do buy it from the generating companies like power stations or gas importers...50% of UK gas is imported on ships from Norway,Russia and the U.S.Then they sell it on to us the consumers.Just like most retail trade.Typically the energy suppliers like Octopus end up with just 6% of the income from bills.
My point too. They don’t own the meters?!?! So why are people changing their meters? Def say no to smart meters as that’s more control (forget the radiation as it’s everywhere) it’s about controlling us but why change the meters
@@Lisa_M_V People changing their meters without permission of the supplier is the same as energy theft. It will result in a forced entry visit and a forced fitting of a pre-payment meter. Energy is not pre-paid, the suppliers buy energy on the wholesale market from traders and producers.
Great to see Allegedly Dave again. When he mentioned that a mortgage is a promissory note, it makes total sense. The paper is literally a bank note with a face value that they use as cash.
Banknotes are backed by the treasury,A Promissory Note written by Joe Bloggs is merely a piece of paper which nobody is legally bpound to accept.And it has no face value .Anybody who imagines in their wildest dreams that such a note can settle a mortgage of maybe £200,000 needs to give their head a wobble!
Sign the document, pay to the order of RICHARD VOBES, without recourse Richard Vobes, agent ❤🙌 this changes the mortgage note into a negotiable instrument which then you stop negotiations by special indorsement ✌️🙏
Allegedly Dave is a real legend, not seen him for a while, great to see him again. His idea is great and he is right that the law is on our side, however the lawyers and the judges belong to them and they will not allow us to win this game, so if you see strange cars following you or driving past your house every few minutes realise that they are onto you.
So Dave woke up with this idea recently, that has been floating about for well over a decade, that no one as yet, including Dave, has ever been able to evidence that it will work, and he want's you to pledge "money" to him to attempt to try to see if it will work. Best of luck with that.
@@unkleknobhead well thats how real life works. You can take risk and be first or never take risk and stay were you are. there are costs in any new idea. let's say it works. then they should charge you 75% of what you saved. its fair to the ones that played the long shot. you took no risk and save 25%. not a bad deal. Everything costs money to do. no one should expect things for free. It takes lots of work and dedication to come up with ideas. I charge people for my stuff cz it cost me to learn it. What do you give away for free other then advice that no one is willing to pay for. I would ask him more information before I would discard his idea. it may work
@unkleknobhead it's funny how new ideas are born. Did you talk to the guy before the criticism. Do you understand objective thinking? your comment is a lazy man respond to anything.
There is a tried and tested way of paying of your Mortgage more cheaply and quickly. Most Mortgage repayments are one month in arrears and paid monthly. Pay your Mortgage on time and weekly! If possible always pay more than you have to but these days that can be hard. Paying weekly reduces interest and your Mortgage Term dramatically!!
@@gohan2091 No, they hate that for obvious reasons. Simply pay on time every week, preferably a week early. . Set up a new DD. You probably pay a month in arrears, most do. If you pay weekly on time you will save huge amounts of interest and can pay off your mortgage early. I did this with my last Mortgage. They hated it and tried to stop me. I was paying early and weekly!
@@EnglishVeteran cant get my head around this - so most people have a DD each month to pay mortgage on say 1st of month - how do you change this to weekly? do you simply take your current mortgage payment (lets say £1000 due on Nov 1st) and divide by four so you make £250 DD 1st week in Oct, £250 DD 2nd week in Oct etc?
What cones to mind and often overlooked are the land titles. When the mort gage has been paid in full. Be sure to have written closure and the exact copy of the deed in your hands. Signed off dated with all rights reserved.
Banks do not lend one single penny out on a mortgage the mortgage money is created with a piece of paper where they unique number a date and the amount of money and wet signatures it then becomes a financial instrument which can be traded on the markets. There is more to this but too much for me to explain in a message.
The bank doesn't loan you any money. You've created the money by signing the 'note'.(promisory note). The 'note' was used to fund 'the loan'. The 'note' was added to the banks ledgeras an asset. The bank accepted the 'note' as cash. The bank sold it on the securities market and made a profit from the sale. Did they pay tax on this profit? The bank charged interest on the slleged debt (Usury ). It is fraud from the very beginning and it's eminently provable. They have NOT provided anything of value. There is NO contract.
@@turboslag correct, and also no money changes hands during an exchange, when buying/selling homes, it all happens in the ether, creating another wad for the bankers from your signature, again 'lost at sea' (hid behind filing cabinet - sitting on the spike) then 'claimed as salvage' (amazingly FOUND from behind the cabinet, after a certain time... then it's either paid as defaulted on, or insured as a loss....
That's not what happens - however the BANK do create money out of nowhere, unfortunately it is added to the LOSS side of their accounts sheet because they gave it to you - so to ballance the books you have to pay it back. This is how 'wealth' is created.
Anyone can accept or deny any form of payment they want. If you don’t accept a promissory note then you don’t. It is a worthless bit of paper if both parties don’t agree the worth.
Michael Tellinger. I followed this chap to the letter. And It worked I paid off the electric bill by this time it was £2,203 or there about it was years ago. By the way, I got the local police to sign and whiteness me signing the promissory note. Then I sent it off to Scottish Power company by recorded delivery. job done. To my surprise, Scottish power sent me a letter of apology and they had written off the dept. if I ever had to prove it, I have copies of the written promissory note on my old computer. Many thanks to M.T. WHAT A GREAT MAN.
A promissory note is an AGREEMENT between 2 parties.Nobody has to accept such a note as payment and the note itself is worthless unless it is securitized.
The mortgage document (and any loan) will always be signed already - with an 'X'. That's the bank's sign(ature) giving them the liability from creating the money, but when you counter sign they transfer that debt to you. Romley Stuart goes deep into this and it's fascinating.
I sent a promissory note for my mortgage. No reply from the bank that been accepted. They probably will get money from the insurance waiting for the 90 days. I will definitely join Dave. He have a big heart
I don't trust this. My daughter was in serious debt a few years ago, I contacted Dave, he said to ring back the next day and he would give me the information I needed. I rang him back, but he couldn't remember speaking to me so didn't help me at all.
What happens when you present this new instrument and they the mortgage company decide to close the mortgage and reposess the house? What do you do then?
Essentially he's selling his own fictitious bank and fake currency. Except he can't create a real one due to licencing and regulations. He wants you to pay him a mortgage payment, but doesn't actually explain how the money will be used. He tells you in the video you will lose it. If you think a bank will write off your mortgage because of his fake currency think again. It’s basically a con but not a con because he's honest about you losing your money to him.
He is chancing the honesty that the bank will trust this fraud only because it is the same Ponsi (the illegal bit). He can live off the interest as no.1 Banks are regulated by FCA. Dave won't be. Dave will get jail.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu Dodgy Dave. Why is he dodgy ? Ya know you can't help some people. You can try to get them to think for themselves and see the reality of our existence. But some people either have radical Stockholme Syndrome or they are just too ignorant and dumb to be taught anything. Why don't you research this section of law for yourself Student dad ? You still probably wouldn't believe it would you ? I bet you were a three masker during Covid weren't you lol.
In that particular case the defaulter on the Promissory Note had to pay £23000 plus interest and court costs.Lord Denning's remarks are always quoted out of conrtext.People should read up on the case .The PN does not pay off a loan.
@@SirRogerHerwell Do you watch this channel just to have the opportunity to snipe at people you know absolutely nothing about ? If you want to carry on swallowing the crap that the government Etc puts out, then you do that. But don't criticize others for seeking an alternative. And kindly keep your insults to yourself. People like you seem to be perfectly willing to be absolutely lied to on a daily basis as long as the liar has the correct credentials, correct ? The audacity and pretentiousness is staggering, Sir !!
Ok, finally for me, the fictious problem of paying back 'interest' that wasn't created. Come on fellas!! If the interest payments are recycled back into the economy as SPENDING, (and NOT reinvested for further gain) you can more or less pay back any amount of interest if the repayments over time are right. Think about it. That's why you can be penalised for trying to pay off your 'debt' too quickly, because by so doing you are preventing the process i explained above from happening. It's just the same as the notes in your pocket in that respect. How many times have they been used as payment. The big problem is not the interest, but the principal which gets destroyed and can only be replaced by someone else taking out a new 'loans' to avoid a future potential deflationary mass default.. . . But once again 'credit' created as 'money', in a debt based system, what's it dependent on? . . . . . ENERGY.
Thanks Richard Vobes for that interview; Two things come to mind; any enterprise founded on secrecy, must immediately invite scepticism; “We who received freely, give freely”, Bible verse, means We must not exploit Our ‘insider’ knowledge to make personal gain, as it is ethically hazardous; transparency is a must to support a trust and full disclosure a necessity for consent; so it sounds ‘Dodgey Dave’ as; anyway, Dave said, “that if they can do it,…We an do it too” and so there is nothing to stop Us doing Our own research and due diligence anyway; [Cf. Clearfield Doctrine 1943; Mercantile Law 1880; Bills of Exchange Act 1908];
You can do it yourself but that will cost you time and energy hence why it's only normal that someone would ask for a down-payment to pay off your whole moragege. For me the question is I suppose how much is the down-payment?
thanks @@dannyturnereveryday6022 for that question; We agree that for this whole venture to succeed, it will necessarily require a cost, however, the added bonus of doing all the due diligence and ‘word work’ for Ourselves, is that We can learn at Our own pace, comprehending every step in its jurisdictional detail and thereby be utterly convinced by conduct, that We would actually put complete faith in action, that provide resolve and remedy, whatever conundrum is present; We need to become Our own attorney in fact [Cf. New Zealand Birth Certificate, BDM107, WARNING and Caution; Privacy Act 2020, principle 7, 13; Imperial Law Applications Act 1988, Schedule 1; Wills Act 1837, 2007];
If it's backed by multiple, but separate, mortgage payments, and the total value of PNs he can issue is limited by that value, how can he possibly also pay off everyones mortgages?
Reclaim your mortgage security. Give it back to HMRC. You have an obligation to settle the account with them. All moneys are created, spent and returned to the source. We all have an accounting problem. The banks are holding your security in the incorrect account. They put it into a general account rather than special account. They have stolen your title.
@@evelghostrider they do, but from your instructions and on your account held with HMRC. Remember, your BC identity is the debt conveyancer. You can only create debt. To access the credit side, you need to change your status. Ie. Become the beneficiary of your estate. Or, become the agent for the principal in the crown court and create remedy by issuing a bond to pay down any debt with it. Remember, you are the creditor, they make the assumption and presumption you are the debtor.
The only agencies that can create securities is banks, governments and courts. Courts are just banks. They seek surety from your estate just by your appearance. The Judge is looking for you to be the underwriter for his summons, security. Reject that where possible.
@@tobychenderson very interesting! Do you have any information or would point me in the direction of how to become a beneficiary of "my estate" or how to become the agent for the principal in Crown Court?
The 1099a is essentially in law legal tender in commercial transactions and you are reclaiming your property that the banks, financial institutions said you have abandoned in which they are claiming!
The minute he said that (whilst laughing and fidgeting) my gut reacted! If he cant be truthful about that bit then what else is he lying about? And by telling us all what hes doing will alert the baddies anyway, Der!
@@steveanderson3942but you can withdraw it. I get paid digitally but that money exists. I can buy goods and services with it. This is the way since money was invented pretty much.
Have to love Allegedly Dave! Rumours today that they are starting the financial reset on 1st October 24, if this happens where will that leave us with the promissory notes?
Hi Richard can you find out please as to where does it leave all the people who have maybe had to sell their homes and have allready paid their mortgage off /back Also wasn't it agreed along the lines by the very High Court Judge was it Lady Hales Something along the lines of Just by signing the Mortgage agreement,the document that they ask you not to date That you then allready own the Property Michael O'bernicia got that information through his Father's Court Case to which this High Court Judge stated it
To my knowledge that's correct . You own the house , but you then have a debt with the bank that's secured against your property . Ie if you can't pay they will force the sale of the house as payment .
Inflation primarily occurs due to Fiat currency creation. Printing lot’s of currency devalues that Fiat Currency. The USA $ has depreciated by around 98% in the last 50 years or so. Pound Stirling a similar amount over a longer period. We value everything in Fiat Currency! Therefore, of course your house will appear to be worth a lot more! But, value that same house in Bitcoin, the purest form of money, and your house will be approximately the same value as you paid for it originally. If you then add on the interest you paid on your Mortgage to the original cost of your house and you will be utterly shocked!!!!
Im sure theres a mortgage clause that states the mortgage has to be paid back with a certain denomination of fiat currency, otherwise people would be paying off their mortgage with jewellery, cars, boats etc. A promissory note needs to be agreed upon as a satisfactory settlement by both parties. Interesting concept but i dont think it will work for that reason.
@@teapot6711 A promissory note is a financial instrument and has value. Value is money. The PN is converted into a Security and added to the ledger on the asset side of the balance sheet. The debt is your money on the debt side of the ledger. Reclaiming your security back to your estate brings your HMRC account back to zero, and the credit side of the bank balance sheet is wiped out. There is no debt/value in the mortgage trust and is therefore setoff. You get the title deeds. The bank is down on the deal because they gave the money to the vendor.
An Irish guy paid off his sisters mortgage with a promissory note but was taken to court by the bank, however the court ruled in his favour by saying if the bank can use promissory notes daily then they have to accept them too. its on the web, go check it out. i like the way these guys are trying to use their rules and laws back against them now and at some point the people will win, but most are still sleeping with their eyes wide shut.
That doesn't make sense.If the bank refused to accept a promissory note the maker of the note would have to take the bank to court.Many people who have failed to settle a mortgage with a promissory note have appealed to the Financial Ombudsman but nobody has been successful .Don't forget that a mortgage agreement is a form of promissory note so why would a bank have to accept another promissory note to pay off the first?
@@eskertoo once a special and qualified autograph is put to paper, payment is tendered and delivered. Bills of exchange act (UK and CANADA) UCC 3 (the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
the problem with this is that the Promissory Note INCREASES the national debt. Where as Bills of exchange reduce it. we should all be looking at ways to discharge and balance the books and not playing their system with yet more Usury. ( Money created with interest )
That's exactly why utility send you a bank giro credit and people still add money 🙈 adding to the national debt Don't believe the absolute lie you gotta put a cheque with it😂
If he sets up an energy company and we can charge him for storage of his meters on our property, then we can do the same with the energy companies we are already with and charge them the amount of our bill minus £1 for storing their meters on our property instead. If this is legal he doesn’t need to set up a company.
Micheal Tellinger added a disclaimer enabling the promissory note to be traded on the stack market which nullified the debt making the house yours. Interested to hear
You can only trade a PN on the market if every other trader agrees it is worth something - you could write a PN for £1 million, but on the stock market which is a FREE MARKET it is worth 1p.
Most people don't live in one place long enough to pay off a mortgage in full. Proof is in the pudding- we had a mortgage of 30 years, it came to the point of paying the principal off, paid it and asked for the deed, not one produced it. That was 3 years ago. Not one who was asked to produce it, has given anything but a copy of the original deed transfered to the holder of the debt. This is proof it becomes a traded security and ownership becomes an illusion.
Ah ha, but in law a copy of a thing is not the thing and that should be added to your challenge. You have the right to ask for an appointment where you can physically see the original document you signed because it contains your DNA. If they can’t then you are left with no choice but to suspect some fraudulent activity has taken place by their inability to show you the original 👀
@@davidclayworth2271no thats wrong you dont get it just a vopy but when you pay it off you get the deed from company or bank lender or you ask at the land registry
Once cash or securities are “deposited” in to the bank, it becomes their property. They just owe you the cash value which you see in an account. Fraction reserve banking has been disproved/debunked by Prof. Richard Werner.
Great to hear Dave. Be aware the legend Mary Croft had to go into hiding 20 years ago after writing the 'spell' on the back of a freinds checkbook check to pay off her mortgage because she was in difficulties financially. The bank manager phoned a week later and said her mortgage was paid in full... the bank owners frown on this practice ... good luck to you, watch your back. John Harris was not so fortunate! Hugs to all xxx 💖🙏💫
@@heyitsalanhere taken out bc he chased his full fictions equity, he was warned and just like John would he ignored the warning, then he was made to write a suicide note, allegedly, but wrote it in a way that proved it was under duress... I liked him, he used a childs picture as the Sovereign and a child portrayal of frankenstien as the fiction, hilarious and so truly brilliant! 💖🙏💫
From the Financial Ombudsman UK explaining to a complainant whose Promissory Note was rejected by the bank."Where a creditor AGREES to accept a Promissory Note the debtor is legally bound to pay it but a creditor isn't obliged to accept it instead of money."So clearly the note is not money and a bank can refuse to accept it.
So the amazing idea is to create a promissory note. Is this a new idea? I believe I have heard this idea a billion times. Question: Have you had ANY SUCCESS with it which you can prove?? The problem with the majority of Vobes' guests is that they confuse "ideas" for "proof of concept", which does NOT say much about the intellect of the guests in the first place! It also says VERY LITTLE about Vobes himself. How can you be a credible interviewer/journalist if you FAIL to ask the most essential question: Have you had ANY success with this yourself? If yes - Prove it! This idea was propagated by Winston Shrout et al, more than 15 years ago. I have seen NO success with it at all!
So whose morgages will be paid first? Will people keep their homes and get their deeds? How will there every br enouvh value in thiz tfust with a donation lesz than your bond payment to pay of the bomes? Will people have to continue to pay money to the trust?
None of this is new. It was known about years ago. Keynesian Economics based on Fiat Currency that is being created, is a Ponzi Scheme and all Fiat Currencies fail.
Hi Richard how are youm loving your shows and I'm absolutely amazed by all this fraud and again the mortgage to pay it off so another one for me to watch ❤
how do you pay it off and with what do you pay it off with? cash? ( came from an account in who’s name?) in who’s name is the mortgage and who’s name is on the deeds?
@@darrenwilliams1081 I think he does. You must have to send him your mortgage details, and he does it on your behalf. This is a crazy approach and relies on a single entity. The best approach is to become friends with HMRC and inform them that a disposition of securities has taken place.
‘Trying to minimise the information getting out there’ to quote one of the phrases used in this interview and the lack of information generally should, one would have thought, ring alarm bells. Anyone who tries sell you something that sounds too good to be true is engaging in fraudulent activity. Don’t be fooled by this nonsense! Please.
does the UK have a truth in lending or... full disclosure law? the reason for the question is, if the fraudulent lender does not inform the one signing the mortgage that he/she is pulling the necessary amount from their trust, than the mortgage is not valid. a unilateral corporate sig-nature is not valid, only a bi-lateral contract is binding. as the true beneficiary of the all-caps corporate fiction and executor of the same, the fraudulent lender has no assets in the transaction. therefore the mortgage is paid in full.
Hahahaha, I love to see that light bulb go on and illuminate the darkness. Good on ya mate. I am pretty confident you are on the right track, and can't wait to see how your journey unfolds.
I remember Tellinger's promissory note and all the numpties in the UK who copied it word-for-word even though it referred to South African courts and legislation (i.e.) they did not have the wherewithal to amend it to include the relevant UK information!
It would not work even if they did - if you issue a promisory note you have to be good for the value of it in legal tender, and immediately if the vendor asks for it.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu Do you mean like walking into a bank and asking to exchange a £10 bank note for an equivalent amount in sterling silver and being asked to leave?
@@HaMashiachSaves Yes, however the word 'sterling' now only means a standard of purity of silver - it was retained in monetary usage as an historical label, nothing more.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu Indeed. The "money" we hold in our hands today is not backed by anything. It is Fiat currency (i.e.) nothing more than a 'Promissory Note'. There is no "money" any more in reality, is there? All that's left is 'Debt' and 'Credit', in which 'Debt' is not 'paid' but rather discharged by a variety of financial instruments.
So dodgy daves plan is for you to send him the actual money you owe on your mortgage instead of paying it off. He then keeps your money forever in his own words meanwhile the banks repossess your property and you are screwed twice
what he is doing is common in the lending industry. They do this for construction funding. A lender finds a pool of say 10 people needing money. They lend them money at 15% or more. They pool all the borrowers in one. then they take the portfolio to the bank and borrow against it. Because it's a pool of borrowers, there is less risk of default than on an individual borrower. Its a lower risk to lend to the pool. the revenue due to the interest spread creates the revenue base that if one or two default the pool can maintain the loan payments so the bank is not required to deal with the bad loan. Banks actually prefer to lend to a pool and then individual borrowers.
@@Britishchapp maybe.... I use the bills of exchange Act to pay Hydro for two years now. Do not discard it. There were many changes in 1933 that work for us now.
@@MinisterHenry-jc3vkso you think if everyone pays a small donation they can all have their mortgages paid off? So if 100 people all paid £100, it would entitle them all to £100k (for example) of mortgage to be settled? ie £10k would fund £10m?? I assume you are in the US as Hydro water appears to be an LLC.
@Britishchapp Im in Canada city of Toronto. You have to understand the process it may be possible. Some treaties like the Bills of Exchange Act that I use are international and would apply in any Western nation that is a signatory. You may not have to worry. If Britain keeps picking on Russia, it may not be there soon.
We just need to think outside the box like the Braithwaite family in 16th Century CE who built Bridge house. Built on a bridge, as an apple shop, to avoid paying land tax. Located in Cumbria, England, Bridge House is not "technically" on land, as it is built on or over the watercourse of a river.
Now the penny drops - fantastic Dave! I love it! This whole monetary system needs to be destroyed and I love your plan. Can I join Allegedly Energy when it gets going please? 😆
Unfortunately, it's the only system that we have and it works (mainly to keep the rich richer) - as soon as you tear this down, the same thing will arise in it's place because society needs a means of exchange - currency for an economy to provide the standard of living we enjoy.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu the problem is a predatory class has taken control of money creation. People need to have control of the money in their own countries, whatever will work, but as soon as you hand that control away you are turning yourself into a slave. We would be better bartering than submitting to slavery. And before you say living standards have never been so good, that's only been so the elites could position themselves to maximising their control, things are going to get a lot worse for us serfs from now on.
I’m not saying Dave isn’t honest but what’s just stopping him walking off with thousands or even millions of pounds if it don’t work? And surely should be more than one person in charge of the whole thing.
I think you may have seen through his razor like intellect, to reveal a carefully crafted grift NOT. Do not send money you can't afford to loose 🙂just saying.
If everyone reads corporate law, and then realizes all large entities are corporate, and under corporate law one item everyone does not know, a CONTRACT isn't a contract if the CEO has not physically wet ink signed the contract of anything..Thus all Mortgages that are not signed off by the CEO of the corporation, it is null and void under corporate law..
This is not a great approach, all you have done is created more debt on your estates account. You are not fixing your accounting issue with HMRC. You are making the banks richer.
The game needs to be over, well over. .. maybe THIS time around, we all do indeed, wake up...
or, maybe pay for your obligations?
As I understand it, the issue with energy companies that bill us is that they do not produce any energy to sell us. They are purely billing agents (i.e.middle men) however; what they are actually doing is to sell us debt but they are not registered with the Financial Conduct Authority as credit agencies and are therefore acting illegally/unlawfully. Also, they do not own the meters in your home or that are attached to it (external meters).
They don't generate electricity or produce gas but they do buy it from the generating companies like power stations or gas importers...50% of UK gas is imported on ships from Norway,Russia and the U.S.Then they sell it on to us the consumers.Just like most retail trade.Typically the energy suppliers like Octopus end up with just 6% of the income from bills.
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A couple of minor points, the UK doesn't import gas from Russia anymore and the vast majority (98%) of Norwegian gas is delivered by pipe.
My point too. They don’t own the meters?!?! So why are people changing their meters? Def say no to smart meters as that’s more control (forget the radiation as it’s everywhere) it’s about controlling us but why change the meters
@@eskertooactually that’s bs because they triple dip mostly. Do they got paid. A statement is allegation. It’s pre paid
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People changing their meters without permission of the supplier is the same as energy theft. It will result in a forced entry visit and a forced fitting of a pre-payment meter. Energy is not pre-paid, the suppliers buy energy on the wholesale market from traders and producers.
Great to see Allegedly Dave again. When he mentioned that a mortgage is a promissory note, it makes total sense. The paper is literally a bank note with a face value that they use as cash.
All banknotes are a kind of Promissory Note...but not all Promissory Notes are banknotes!
Banknotes are backed by the treasury,A Promissory Note written by Joe Bloggs is merely a piece of paper which nobody is legally bpound to accept.And it has no face value .Anybody who imagines in their wildest dreams that such a note can settle a mortgage of maybe £200,000 needs to give their head a wobble!
@@SirRogerHerwelllol try convincing Vobes’ mentally retarded, thick as pg 💩💩💩 fans otherwise 😂😂😂
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Sign the document, pay to the order of RICHARD VOBES, without recourse Richard Vobes, agent ❤🙌 this changes the mortgage note into a negotiable instrument which then you stop negotiations by special indorsement ✌️🙏
Allegedly Dave is a real legend, not seen him for a while, great to see him again. His idea is great and he is right that the law is on our side, however the lawyers and the judges belong to them and they will not allow us to win this game, so if you see strange cars following you or driving past your house every few minutes realise that they are onto you.
Are you going to give him £1000s of £ in hard cash?
So Dave woke up with this idea recently, that has been floating about for well over a decade, that no one as yet, including Dave, has ever been able to evidence that it will work, and he want's you to pledge "money" to him to attempt to try to see if it will work.
Best of luck with that.
@@unkleknobhead well thats how real life works. You can take risk and be first or never take risk and stay were you are. there are costs in any new idea. let's say it works. then they should charge you 75% of what you saved. its fair to the ones that played the long shot. you took no risk and save 25%. not a bad deal.
Everything costs money to do. no one should expect things for free. It takes lots of work and dedication to come up with ideas. I charge people for my stuff cz it cost me to learn it. What do you give away for free other then advice that no one is willing to pay for.
I would ask him more information before I would discard his idea. it may work
Try..Empower The People. Simon Goldberg. His processes have been tried and tested.
Don't fall for it Dave..as he says has not tested this.
to risk nothing is to risk everything
@unkleknobhead it's funny how new ideas are born. Did you talk to the guy before the criticism. Do you understand objective thinking? your comment is a lazy man respond to anything.
The note is a promise to pay you in the future when gold and silver returns which has no date
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There is a tried and tested way of paying of your Mortgage more cheaply and quickly. Most Mortgage repayments are one month in arrears and paid monthly. Pay your Mortgage on time and weekly! If possible always pay more than you have to but these days that can be hard. Paying weekly reduces interest and your Mortgage Term dramatically!!
Can you go more into this? I'm interested. Can I just ask my bank for weekly repayments and they will just honour that?
@@gohan2091 No, they hate that for obvious reasons. Simply pay on time every week, preferably a week early. . Set up a new DD. You probably pay a month in arrears, most do. If you pay weekly on time you will save huge amounts of interest and can pay off your mortgage early. I did this with my last Mortgage. They hated it and tried to stop me. I was paying early and weekly!
@@EnglishVeteran cant get my head around this - so most people have a DD each month to pay mortgage on say 1st of month - how do you change this to weekly? do you simply take your current mortgage payment (lets say £1000 due on Nov 1st) and divide by four so you make £250 DD 1st week in Oct, £250 DD 2nd week in Oct etc?
Exactly, thats the right and honest way to do it
@@jenlong8568 do you need to let them know what you are doing - or just cancel the existing DD and setup the new ones.
What cones to mind and often overlooked are the land titles.
When the mort gage has been paid in full. Be sure to have written closure and the exact copy of the deed in your hands.
Signed off dated with all rights reserved.
Hi Richard, we saw Dave in Oulton Broad not so long back...he's a DIAMOND..🤩
Banks do not lend one single penny out on a mortgage the mortgage money is created with a piece of paper where they unique number a date and the amount of money and wet signatures it then becomes a financial instrument which can be traded on the markets. There is more to this but too much for me to explain in a message.
thankyou to both of you some gold nuggets here and its good to see richard asKing the right questions
The bank doesn't loan you any money. You've created the money by signing the 'note'.(promisory note). The 'note' was used to fund 'the loan'. The 'note' was added to the banks ledgeras an asset. The bank accepted the 'note' as cash. The bank sold it on the securities market and made a profit from the sale. Did they pay tax on this profit? The bank charged interest on the slleged debt (Usury ). It is fraud from the very beginning and it's eminently provable. They have NOT provided anything of value. There is NO contract.
So the house is immaterial, just an object to create the money?
@@turboslag correct, and also no money changes hands during an exchange, when buying/selling homes, it all happens in the ether, creating another wad for the bankers from your signature, again 'lost at sea' (hid behind filing cabinet - sitting on the spike) then 'claimed as salvage' (amazingly FOUND from behind the cabinet, after a certain time... then it's either paid as defaulted on, or insured as a loss....
That's not what happens - however the BANK do create money out of nowhere, unfortunately it is added to the LOSS side of their accounts sheet because they gave it to you - so to ballance the books you have to pay it back. This is how 'wealth' is created.
Hi , no wonder the price of building land went up in the 1970's to the extortionate price to day , and the Banks TOOK OVER THE BUILDING SOCIETIES .
They are bussinesses run for profit, however you can use a mutal building society - they still exist.
Anyone can accept or deny any form of payment they want. If you don’t accept a promissory note then you don’t. It is a worthless bit of paper if both parties don’t agree the worth.
Ypu need to make the notel legal tender, then they can't refuse
@@jwright4222 of course they can. Anyone can reject payment of any type they feel like. The whole "you can't refuse legal tender" thing is a myth.
Michael Tellinger. I followed this chap to the letter. And It worked I paid off the electric bill by this time it was £2,203 or there about it was years ago. By the way, I got the local police to sign and whiteness me signing the promissory note. Then I sent it off to Scottish Power company by recorded delivery. job done. To my surprise, Scottish power sent me a letter of apology and they had written off the dept. if I ever had to prove it, I have copies of the written promissory note on my old computer. Many thanks to M.T. WHAT A GREAT MAN.
Yeah, of course you did 🙄
A co conspirator then?😂😂😂
A promissory note is an AGREEMENT between 2 parties.Nobody has to accept such a note as payment and the note itself is worthless unless it is securitized.
@eskertoo once tendered if promissory note is returned then the debt never existed 😉 boe 1882 🙌✌️🙏
This is what it looks like when a bunch of squaddies from 77th Brigade get involved in a conversation
The mortgage document (and any loan) will always be signed already - with an 'X'. That's the bank's sign(ature) giving them the liability from creating the money, but when you counter sign they transfer that debt to you. Romley Stuart goes deep into this and it's fascinating.
It's not a debt it's a credit
Interesting.
This reminds me of the film "Catch me if you can" because really its this simple and if you make something of a document and a true nugget behind it .
When people ask me who I work for I always say the government as for every £10 I earn and spend, £7 of it goes to them in tax.
so clever.
@@arnoldrimmer9161 yes because slavery is still alive and well just named differently!
@@jellytot9838 spot on my friend!
Exactly working for government means liable for tax 😂
70%, is that right? How do you get that figure.
I sent a promissory note for my mortgage. No reply from the bank that been accepted.
They probably will get money from the insurance waiting for the 90 days.
I will definitely join Dave. He have a big heart
Google Financial Ombudsman Decisions DRN7350722 to find out the truth about thinking a Promissory note will settle a mortgage!
@@eskertooShhhhh Dave is trying to get ££££’s, the truth won’t help him do that…😂
You will just pay more interest and possibly loose your credit rating.
He soon have big bank balance too.
How can I join? Do you know?
Is dave still deleting people from his telegram channel for asking questions he doesn't like. ??
No, but he is deleting people for acting like arses
Presumably they are asking for their money back so yes they’ll be deleted.
@@AllegedlyDave ah the closed "open" minds of the loons.
Dodgy Dave.
So I'm blocked from direct replies. Noted. You have to laugh at the brown eye lickers. What ever.
Since the 1930s the only way to pay for something is to discharge you can not use the debt given to you from a job which equals 0 to do anything
Yes you can’t pay a bill as there is no money. You can only discharge. And that way you reduce national debt 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I don't trust this. My daughter was in serious debt a few years ago, I contacted Dave, he said to ring back the next day and he would give me the information I needed. I rang him back, but he couldn't remember speaking to me so didn't help me at all.
Big surprise .
Dodgy Dave😂😂😂
@@pollyanna434 Shocking !, Shocking !!!, Shocking !!!!!!!, I just can't believe it. Shocking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
He's a fraud.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu lol
Melbourne Australia,
I sent two BoE , registered post,one week ago.
I have not received any response yet.🤷♂️✌️
So he’s setting up a trust and asking for donations ? …. Can I make a donation with a promissory note as he said money is worthless ??
Just another D Murphy (get rich quick)!
Maybe but he gets your morgage paid who cares
No, all banks need something real as collateral, to write the notes against. The only things real are land, property, gold/silver, chattels etc.
@@michellegriffiths8955 ok we’ll see how that works out 🤣
@@G-ra-ha-mno not really that’s the lie they sold you they collect money from reserves and make money if you default or pay back
What happens when you present this new instrument and they the mortgage company decide to close the mortgage and reposess the house? What do you do then?
You contact the council and tell them that you are homeless.
You wonder why you listened to this hapless idiot in the fiest place .
Essentially he's selling his own fictitious bank and fake currency. Except he can't create a real one due to licencing and regulations. He wants you to pay him a mortgage payment, but doesn't actually explain how the money will be used. He tells you in the video you will lose it. If you think a bank will write off your mortgage because of his fake currency think again. It’s basically a con but not a con because he's honest about you losing your money to him.
He is chancing the honesty that the bank will trust this fraud only because it is the same Ponsi (the illegal bit). He can live off the interest as no.1
Banks are regulated by FCA. Dave won't be. Dave will get jail.
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What makes you think the BIG banks have not been do ing the same.
Listen. You might learn something.
Like the banks are ripping us off🤔🤔🤔
Yes, there's a fair few auric liquiescence extraction artists in this world lol, great video.
Not to mention urinary ones !
Indeed
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Healing one drop at a time
Dodgy Dave is one, I'm afraid.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu Dodgy Dave. Why is he dodgy ? Ya know you can't help some people. You can try to get them to think for themselves and see the reality of our existence. But some people either have radical Stockholme Syndrome or they are just too ignorant and dumb to be taught anything. Why don't you research this section of law for yourself Student dad ? You still probably wouldn't believe it would you ? I bet you were a three masker during Covid weren't you lol.
What a great interview, great quest.
Lord Denning’s ruling stated that a promissory note only has to be treated as cash if both parties have agreed to it prior.
In that particular case the defaulter on the Promissory Note had to pay £23000 plus interest and court costs.Lord Denning's remarks are always quoted out of conrtext.People should read up on the case .The PN does not pay off a loan.
@@eskertoo that is correct. The pn does not pay off the loan. Returning the security to HMRC does.
@@SirRogerHerwell it's all about your accounting issue you have with HMRC.
@@tobychenderson It's got f*ck all to do with HMRC.
@@SirRogerHerwell Do you watch this channel just to have the opportunity to snipe at people you know absolutely nothing about ? If you want to carry on swallowing the crap that the government Etc puts out, then you do that. But don't criticize others for seeking an alternative. And kindly keep your insults to yourself. People like you seem to be perfectly willing to be absolutely lied to on a daily basis as long as the liar has the correct credentials, correct ? The audacity and pretentiousness is staggering, Sir !!
Ok, finally for me, the fictious problem of paying back 'interest' that wasn't created. Come on fellas!! If the interest payments are recycled back into the economy as SPENDING, (and NOT reinvested for further gain) you can more or less pay back any amount of interest if the repayments over time are right. Think about it. That's why you can be penalised for trying to pay off your 'debt' too quickly, because by so doing you are preventing the process i explained above from happening. It's just the same as the notes in your pocket in that respect. How many times have they been used as payment. The big problem is not the interest, but the principal which gets destroyed and can only be replaced by someone else taking out a new 'loans' to avoid a future potential deflationary mass default.. . . But once again 'credit' created as 'money', in a debt based system, what's it dependent on? . . . . . ENERGY.
Thanks Richard Vobes for that interview;
Two things come to mind;
any enterprise founded on secrecy, must immediately invite scepticism;
“We who received freely, give freely”, Bible verse, means We must not exploit Our ‘insider’ knowledge to make personal gain, as it is ethically hazardous;
transparency is a must to support a trust and full disclosure a necessity for consent;
so it sounds ‘Dodgey Dave’ as;
anyway, Dave said, “that if they can do it,…We an do it too” and so there is nothing to stop Us doing Our own research and due diligence anyway;
[Cf. Clearfield Doctrine 1943; Mercantile Law 1880; Bills of Exchange Act 1908];
You can do it yourself but that will cost you time and energy hence why it's only normal that someone would ask for a down-payment to pay off your whole moragege. For me the question is I suppose how much is the down-payment?
thanks @@dannyturnereveryday6022 for that question; We agree that for this whole venture to succeed, it will necessarily require a cost, however, the added bonus of doing all the due diligence and ‘word work’ for Ourselves, is that We can learn at Our own pace, comprehending every step in its jurisdictional detail and thereby be utterly convinced by conduct, that We would actually put complete faith in action, that provide resolve and remedy, whatever conundrum is present; We need to become Our own attorney in fact [Cf. New Zealand Birth Certificate, BDM107, WARNING and Caution; Privacy Act 2020, principle 7, 13; Imperial Law Applications Act 1988, Schedule 1; Wills Act 1837, 2007];
If it's backed by multiple, but separate, mortgage payments, and the total value of PNs he can issue is limited by that value, how can he possibly also pay off everyones mortgages?
Reclaim your mortgage security. Give it back to HMRC. You have an obligation to settle the account with them. All moneys are created, spent and returned to the source. We all have an accounting problem.
The banks are holding your security in the incorrect account. They put it into a general account rather than special account. They have stolen your title.
So your saying HMRC creates money ? Or have I got that wrong ??
@@evelghostrider they do, but from your instructions and on your account held with HMRC. Remember, your BC identity is the debt conveyancer. You can only create debt. To access the credit side, you need to change your status. Ie. Become the beneficiary of your estate. Or, become the agent for the principal in the crown court and create remedy by issuing a bond to pay down any debt with it. Remember, you are the creditor, they make the assumption and presumption you are the debtor.
The only agencies that can create securities is banks, governments and courts. Courts are just banks. They seek surety from your estate just by your appearance. The Judge is looking for you to be the underwriter for his summons, security. Reject that where possible.
@@tobychenderson very interesting!
Do you have any information or would point me in the direction of how to become a beneficiary of "my estate" or how to become the agent for the principal in Crown Court?
@tobychenderson how do you formally become the beneficiary?
I enjoyed the interview with dave and the different suggestions to pay off the mortgages.
That should read “his mortgage”
Indeed it's a great effort for this new asset.
The 1099a is essentially in law legal tender in commercial transactions and you are reclaiming your property that the banks, financial institutions said you have abandoned in which they are claiming!
Well i for one will be watching dave for updates
Not all Banks Securitise every Mortgage. I believe it was 85% about 10 years ago.
Allegedly Dave!!!. Fabulous guest!. Thank you .
Being Dutch I can't use most of the idea's of Richard or his guests, though I find his talks highly educational and entertaining
Are you quite sure about that? How come?
Being Dutch makes no difference - all of this is BS.
“Only puny secrets need keeping. The biggest secrets are kept by public incredulity.” Marshall McLuhan
I can't believe he's claiming to have woken up with this idea.
🤣🤣🤣
Always someone to disbelieve or comment negatively about brilliant information smdfh bigot 🥺
It's so stupid I'm sure he did ,(After a nice drink of his urine , and a check to ensure the world is flat).
The minute he said that (whilst laughing and fidgeting) my gut reacted! If he cant be truthful about that bit then what else is he lying about? And by telling us all what hes doing will alert the baddies anyway, Der!
This whole thing ignores the fast that when you sell a house the bank that grants the mortgage actually transfers that money to the seller.
They don't transfer money, it's just digital? 😢
@@steveanderson3942but you can withdraw it. I get paid digitally but that money exists. I can buy goods and services with it. This is the way since money was invented pretty much.
@@timsbird1971 there's only like 10 percent of actual cash as FRN's the rest is all digital transactions
Have to love Allegedly Dave! Rumours today that they are starting the financial reset on 1st October 24, if this happens where will that leave us with the promissory notes?
Promissory notes will have no value, might as well used them to light your log burner.
Hi Richard can you find out please as to where does it leave all the people who have maybe had to sell their homes and have allready paid their mortgage off /back
Also wasn't it agreed along the lines by the very High Court Judge was it Lady Hales
Something along the lines of
Just by signing the Mortgage agreement,the document that they ask you not to date
That you then allready own the Property
Michael O'bernicia got that information through his Father's Court Case to which this High Court Judge stated it
To my knowledge that's correct . You own the house , but you then have a debt with the bank that's secured against your property . Ie if you can't pay they will force the sale of the house as payment .
Inflation primarily occurs due to Fiat currency creation. Printing lot’s of currency devalues that Fiat Currency. The USA $ has depreciated by around 98% in the last 50 years or so. Pound Stirling a similar amount over a longer period.
We value everything in Fiat Currency! Therefore, of course your house will appear to be worth a lot more! But, value that same house in Bitcoin, the purest form of money, and your house will be approximately the same value as you paid for it originally.
If you then add on the interest you paid on your Mortgage to the original cost of your house and you will be utterly shocked!!!!
Im sure theres a mortgage clause that states the mortgage has to be paid back with a certain denomination of fiat currency, otherwise people would be paying off their mortgage with jewellery, cars, boats etc. A promissory note needs to be agreed upon as a satisfactory settlement by both parties. Interesting concept but i dont think it will work for that reason.
@@teapot6711 A promissory note is a financial instrument and has value. Value is money. The PN is converted into a Security and added to the ledger on the asset side of the balance sheet. The debt is your money on the debt side of the ledger. Reclaiming your security back to your estate brings your HMRC account back to zero, and the credit side of the bank balance sheet is wiped out. There is no debt/value in the mortgage trust and is therefore setoff. You get the title deeds. The bank is down on the deal because they gave the money to the vendor.
there isn't. copies of mortgage agreements freely available online. How do you sign your autograph? A blank endorsement is perhaps not the way to go.
An Irish guy paid off his sisters mortgage with a promissory note but was taken to court by the bank, however the court ruled in his favour by saying if the bank can use promissory notes daily then they have to accept them too. its on the web, go check it out. i like the way these guys are trying to use their rules and laws back against them now and at some point the people will win, but most are still sleeping with their eyes wide shut.
That doesn't make sense.If the bank refused to accept a promissory note the maker of the note would have to take the bank to court.Many people who have failed to settle a mortgage with a promissory note have appealed to the Financial Ombudsman but nobody has been successful .Don't forget that a mortgage agreement is a form of promissory note so why would a bank have to accept another promissory note to pay off the first?
@@eskertoo once a special and qualified autograph is put to paper, payment is tendered and delivered. Bills of exchange act (UK and CANADA) UCC 3 (the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
the problem with this is that the Promissory Note INCREASES the national debt. Where as Bills of exchange reduce it. we should all be looking at ways to discharge and balance the books and not playing their system with yet more Usury. ( Money created with interest )
That's exactly why utility send you a bank giro credit and people still add money 🙈 adding to the national debt
Don't believe the absolute lie you gotta put a cheque with it😂
Does that promisary note make your mortgage paid in full and each person recieving their deeds from the banks ?
I woke up realising I could fly to Jupiter, so I am working g in this now.
Allegedly guilty of what? Just jokin…i love Dave. An indefatigable seeker of the truth.
indefatigable grifter more like
If he sets up an energy company and we can charge him for storage of his meters on our property, then we can do the same with the energy companies we are already with and charge them the amount of our bill minus £1 for storing their meters on our property instead. If this is legal he doesn’t need to set up a company.
Micheal Tellinger added a disclaimer enabling the promissory note to be traded on the stack market which nullified the debt making the house yours. Interested to hear
You can only trade a PN on the market if every other trader agrees it is worth something - you could write a PN for £1 million, but on the stock market which is a FREE MARKET it is worth 1p.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu Unless it's agreed to have value. That's the point... It's the law. But yes, 100% correct.
The guardian said there's 3 trillion worth of gold. In the coffers is that what money is backed up with.
Most people don't live in one place long enough to pay off a mortgage in full. Proof is in the pudding- we had a mortgage of 30 years, it came to the point of paying the principal off, paid it and asked for the deed, not one produced it. That was 3 years ago. Not one who was asked to produce it, has given anything but a copy of the original deed transfered to the holder of the debt. This is proof it becomes a traded security and ownership becomes an illusion.
Ah ha, but in law a copy of a thing is not the thing and that should be added to your challenge. You have the right to ask for an appointment where you can physically see the original document you signed because it contains your DNA. If they can’t then you are left with no choice but to suspect some fraudulent activity has taken place by their inability to show you the original 👀
You were given the deed when you bought the house. The mortgage company didn't get it. If you lost it in those thirty years then that's your fault.
@davidclayworth2271 the bank/mortgage company/solicitors keep your deed until your mortgage is paid. That's when you own it and take full title
@@davidclayworth2271no thats wrong you dont get it just a vopy but when you pay it off you get the deed from company or bank lender or you ask at the land registry
I got the original deeds not long after the mortgage started@@michellegriffiths8955
Similar to what Peter of England was doing with the were bank..banks refused his chequea
did they? i wondered how on earth he was going to pay off everyones debts lol and have no comeback from the banks etc.
@@colinmillar3792 in 2015 I paid off my council tax with his were bank cheque.The bank refused it saying it wasn't in the swift system.
Its not cheating its commerce😊
Once cash or securities are “deposited” in to the bank, it becomes their property. They just owe you the cash value which you see in an account.
Fraction reserve banking has been disproved/debunked by Prof. Richard Werner.
Great to hear Dave. Be aware the legend Mary Croft had to go into hiding 20 years ago after writing the 'spell' on the back of a freinds checkbook check to pay off her mortgage because she was in difficulties financially. The bank manager phoned a week later and said her mortgage was paid in full... the bank owners frown on this practice ... good luck to you, watch your back. John Harris was not so fortunate!
Hugs to all xxx
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What happened to John H?
@@heyitsalanhere taken out bc he chased his full fictions equity, he was warned and just like John would he ignored the warning, then he was made to write a suicide note, allegedly, but wrote it in a way that proved it was under duress... I liked him, he used a childs picture as the Sovereign and a child portrayal of frankenstien as the fiction, hilarious and so truly brilliant!
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From the Financial Ombudsman UK explaining to a complainant whose Promissory Note was rejected by the bank."Where a creditor AGREES to accept a Promissory Note the debtor is legally bound to pay it but a creditor isn't obliged to accept it instead of money."So clearly the note is not money and a bank can refuse to accept it.
Lots of money for humanity causes don't worry about bank thay are going down lal💜🙏💜🧙♂️
I want to sign up for allegedly energy. I am ready.
This is amazing when will it be ready😊
Love your ideas I trust Dave 😊
In that case give him all your money in exchange for his promissory notes.
More fool you😂😂😂
Dave is awesome!👍
The day I paid off my mortgage, I closed my bank account and withdrew all my money.....
And . . .?
Promissory note in the post to you Dave!!!!!!
Anyone soliciting for money on this platform is to be avoided at all costs!
Made my core vibrate when he said it
So it's a Ponzi scheme. Just like the banks. I kinda get it.
Donation you could pay £1? There is no money anyway so who cares? 😂
You realise that is Vobey boys entire schtick? He is only in YT to get patreon money, etc.
So the amazing idea is to create a promissory note. Is this a new idea? I believe I have heard this idea a billion times. Question: Have you had ANY SUCCESS with it which you can prove??
The problem with the majority of Vobes' guests is that they confuse "ideas" for "proof of concept", which does NOT say much about the intellect of the guests in the first place! It also says VERY LITTLE about Vobes himself. How can you be a credible interviewer/journalist if you FAIL to ask the most essential question: Have you had ANY success with this yourself? If yes - Prove it!
This idea was propagated by Winston Shrout et al, more than 15 years ago. I have seen NO success with it at all!
So whose morgages will be paid first? Will people keep their homes and get their deeds? How will there every br enouvh value in thiz tfust with a donation lesz than your bond payment to pay of the bomes? Will people have to continue to pay money to the trust?
None of this is new. It was known about years ago. Keynesian Economics based on Fiat Currency that is being created, is a Ponzi Scheme and all Fiat Currencies fail.
I absolutely love Dave. What a great guy. Once you go flat, you won't go back.
Once you have successfully paid off your mortgage ... arrange with your lawyer to discharge the lien with your bank.
Hi Richard how are youm loving your shows and I'm absolutely amazed by all this fraud and again the mortgage to pay it off so another one for me to watch ❤
Do you have a mortgage?
The banks are listening to this, they will be ready for it.i hope it is realy good.
how do you pay it off and with what do you pay it off with? cash? ( came from an account in who’s name?)
in who’s name is the mortgage and who’s name is on the deeds?
@@darrenwilliams1081 I think he does. You must have to send him your mortgage details, and he does it on your behalf. This is a crazy approach and relies on a single entity. The best approach is to become friends with HMRC and inform them that a disposition of securities has taken place.
‘Trying to minimise the information getting out there’ to quote one of the phrases used in this interview and the lack of information generally should, one would have thought, ring alarm bells. Anyone who tries sell you something that sounds too good to be true is engaging in fraudulent activity. Don’t be fooled by this nonsense! Please.
Vobes has become a useful idiot for a myriad of scammers.
A promissory note can be enforced in a civil court if the payee does not pay.
does the UK have a truth in lending or... full disclosure law? the reason for the question is, if the fraudulent lender does not inform the one signing the mortgage that he/she is pulling the necessary amount from their trust, than the mortgage is not valid. a unilateral corporate sig-nature is not valid, only a bi-lateral contract is binding. as the true beneficiary of the all-caps corporate fiction and executor of the same, the fraudulent lender has no assets in the transaction. therefore the mortgage is paid in full.
Allegedly Dave looks great for his 61 years both of them do.
Hahahaha, I love to see that light bulb go on and illuminate the darkness. Good on ya mate. I am pretty confident you are on the right track, and can't wait to see how your journey unfolds.
Yes, to drain the resources from idiots who sign up to this 💩💩💩
Hi Dave Great to see you active again. Hope we will see more of you. GOD Bless
Dave is so fricking awesome I almost wish I still had a mortgage just so I could support him in this. Thanks again Richard :)
I remember Tellinger's promissory note and all the numpties in the UK who copied it word-for-word even though it referred to South African courts and legislation (i.e.) they did not have the wherewithal to amend it to include the relevant UK information!
@@SirRogerHerwell Absolutely 👍🏻
It would not work even if they did - if you issue a promisory note you have to be good for the value of it in legal tender, and immediately if the vendor asks for it.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu Do you mean like walking into a bank
and asking to exchange a £10 bank note for an equivalent amount in sterling silver and being asked to leave?
@@HaMashiachSaves Yes, however the word 'sterling' now only means a standard of purity of silver - it was retained in monetary usage as an historical label, nothing more.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu Indeed. The "money" we hold in our hands today is not backed by anything. It is Fiat currency (i.e.) nothing more than a 'Promissory Note'. There is no "money" any more in reality, is there? All that's left is 'Debt' and 'Credit', in which 'Debt' is not 'paid' but rather discharged by a variety of financial instruments.
Satisfaction and accord by way of novation and acceptance
Peace. Yes. Generously lovely man. Thank you for sharing. Peace.
An excellent chat. Best of luck Dave...
So dodgy daves plan is for you to send him the actual money you owe on your mortgage instead of paying it off. He then keeps your money forever in his own words meanwhile the banks repossess your property and you are screwed twice
He said ... A mortgage payment, not the lot. 👍
Yeah pay attention..
@@PeterBrian-iz2nfstill doesn’t sit right with me
@@kevind2163but the rest does?
Yep!
Followed Dave for years he has great information 😊
what he is doing is common in the lending industry. They do this for construction funding.
A lender finds a pool of say 10 people needing money. They lend them money at 15% or more. They pool all the borrowers in one. then they take the portfolio to the bank and borrow against it. Because it's a pool of borrowers, there is less risk of default than on an individual borrower. Its a lower risk to lend to the pool. the revenue due to the interest spread creates the revenue base that if one or two default the pool can maintain the loan payments so the bank is not required to deal with the bad loan. Banks actually prefer to lend to a pool and then individual borrowers.
He is advocating paying off everyone’s mortgages if each person pays a pledge. Do you think that it is possible? I don’t.
@@Britishchapp maybe.... I use the bills of exchange Act to pay Hydro for two years now. Do not discard it. There were many changes in 1933 that work for us now.
@@MinisterHenry-jc3vkso you think if everyone pays a small donation they can all have their mortgages paid off? So if 100 people all paid £100, it would entitle them all to £100k (for example) of mortgage to be settled? ie £10k would fund £10m?? I assume you are in the US as Hydro water appears to be an LLC.
@Britishchapp Im in Canada city of Toronto. You have to understand the process it may be possible. Some treaties like the Bills of Exchange Act that I use are international and would apply in any Western nation that is a signatory. You may not have to worry. If Britain keeps picking on Russia, it may not be there soon.
@@MinisterHenry-jc3vk you think in WW3, you will be safe? 😂
We just need to think outside the box like the Braithwaite family in 16th Century CE who built Bridge house.
Built on a bridge, as an apple shop, to avoid paying land tax.
Located in Cumbria, England, Bridge House is not "technically" on land, as it is built on or over the watercourse of a river.
Now the penny drops - fantastic Dave! I love it! This whole monetary system needs to be destroyed and I love your plan. Can I join Allegedly Energy when it gets going please? 😆
Unfortunately, it's the only system that we have and it works (mainly to keep the rich richer) - as soon as you tear this down, the same thing will arise in it's place because society needs a means of exchange - currency for an economy to provide the standard of living we enjoy.
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@@StudentDad-mc3pu the problem is a predatory class has taken control of money creation. People need to have control of the money in their own countries, whatever will work, but as soon as you hand that control away you are turning yourself into a slave. We would be better bartering than submitting to slavery. And before you say living standards have never been so good, that's only been so the elites could position themselves to maximising their control, things are going to get a lot worse for us serfs from now on.
I’m not saying Dave isn’t honest but what’s just stopping him walking off with thousands or even millions of pounds if it don’t work? And surely should be more than one person in charge of the whole thing.
If something sounds too good to be true it usually is
@@erazered The whole idea is to scam as many people as he can. Vobes is the perfect conduit (useful idiot) for the grift.
I think you may have seen through his razor like intellect, to reveal a carefully crafted grift NOT. Do not send money you can't afford to loose 🙂just saying.
I think you can trust Dave..
@@matman4464 How much money are you going to send him ?.
If everyone reads corporate law, and then realizes all large entities are corporate, and under corporate law one item everyone does not know, a CONTRACT isn't a contract if the CEO has not physically wet ink signed the contract of anything..Thus all Mortgages that are not signed off by the CEO of the corporation, it is null and void under corporate law..
Absolute nonsense - no law states this.
Lovely man that David!
Dave, to do this under the financial acts law, you must under your trust open and obtain a brokerage license off any government.
I used to do a great robot dance many years ago but now I'm a little rusty !
Idiot troll
Call the company and ask them who is the agent for process of service and then use a process server to deliver the papers 💪
They're the agent just as you are for the legal entity
The proof is in the pudding, can I pay the “donation” with my own promissory?
Did you watch the video? 😂
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Don't ask, just try it, see how far you get 😂
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brilliant interview and very exciting
Respect to you Richard and you dave 💯
This is not a great approach, all you have done is created more debt on your estates account.
You are not fixing your accounting issue with HMRC.
You are making the banks richer.