Pres Evoker Finally Nerfed?! Many Hero Talents Buffed! Patch Notes Review

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  • Опубліковано 6 лис 2024

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  • @ExoKiller4
    @ExoKiller4 Місяць тому +63

    Hpal nerf is honestly the most inexplicable balance change I've ever seen

    • @danielmooreorless
      @danielmooreorless Місяць тому +3

      They just gotta keep the pattern every patch notes needs a nerf to hpal then by next patch we get another rework :)

    • @Darkrampager
      @Darkrampager Місяць тому +2

      The demo buffs s4 shadowlands was worse, they BUFFED the best spec

    • @RdawgT
      @RdawgT Місяць тому +1

      Playing Holy already felt bad having to use like 3 globals to do significant aoe healing. It felt very mid and this nerf seems very dumb.

  • @serge2cool
    @serge2cool Місяць тому +100

    That promotional insert was hilarious Drat, love it! 😆

  • @simoncasson1526
    @simoncasson1526 Місяць тому +50

    RIP Holy Paladin

  • @Moonwired
    @Moonwired Місяць тому +19

    As a holy paladin main, I am both confused and upset. Raiding was sort of fine, m+ is absolutely horrifically bad.

  • @GonzytheMage
    @GonzytheMage Місяць тому +18

    I normally skip ads but this was without a doubt the finest advertisement I've ever seen in my entire life.

  • @guffels
    @guffels Місяць тому +57

    Get that bag dratty (I skipped the ad)

  • @Phyr123
    @Phyr123 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you yet again for going above and beyond. You link the notes which is so helpful.

  • @Worst_Casts
    @Worst_Casts Місяць тому +11

    I think the big thing is just they are willing to do big swaths of balance changes to overall specs and specific hero talents between patches which is great to see even if I don’t agree with every single change it’s nice to see

  • @Nadrii
    @Nadrii Місяць тому +87

    Wake up babe, new Dratnos drop

    • @theronwilliams1044
      @theronwilliams1044 Місяць тому +1

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    • @JimBobe
      @JimBobe Місяць тому +2

      Okay okay! Im up!!

    • @kernel2006
      @kernel2006 Місяць тому +1

      He’s probably thinking about other girls. *Me wondering when they’re gonna buff Keeper of the Grove resto Druid*

    • @FNigslol
      @FNigslol Місяць тому

      So cringe when people steal comments for likes

  • @brandonm3621
    @brandonm3621 Місяць тому +1

    I was already using Templar on my Ret...this is awesome! Loving the Prot buffs for my other paladins too!

  • @TheK3vin
    @TheK3vin Місяць тому +1

    Love watching these videos, but I also greatly appreciate you linking the notes you talk about in the description, so I can actually find them if I'm not in a situation to watch it.

  • @QUILLWYRM
    @QUILLWYRM Місяць тому +2

    bro that ad read was wildly awkward I loved it, keep it up.

  • @dantrethekid1539
    @dantrethekid1539 Місяць тому +1

    The mark of a good content creator is how they introduce and play out their ads. It stayed true to your type of humor and it wasn’t long. Great job Drat get your paper!

  • @jace4817
    @jace4817 Місяць тому +2

    Love the promotion! Grab that bag man

  • @Machete__Squad
    @Machete__Squad Місяць тому +2

    Objectively the best sponsor segue to exist on UA-cam.

  • @ryanorr1
    @ryanorr1 Місяць тому +1

    Super smooth sponsor transition

  • @googleaccount2821
    @googleaccount2821 Місяць тому +6

    The BM Hunter changes mean BM will no longer be used in Raid either. I guess BM is just for Delves.

  • @msk5992
    @msk5992 Місяць тому +1

    You including the patchnotes are the little things which make me subscribe & like every video you post. Keep it up

  • @BoundlessBoredom
    @BoundlessBoredom Місяць тому +2

    Dratnos is the new top product sponsor

  • @SpcGrdnr
    @SpcGrdnr Місяць тому +14

    Dratnos has sponsors! He's made it

  • @johnMa7869
    @johnMa7869 Місяць тому +1

    Can't wait to watch the monthly dratnotes :D

  • @steiige
    @steiige Місяць тому +3

    New dratnotes just dropped holy 😮

  • @filipfenix
    @filipfenix Місяць тому +1

    Man those Resto paladins definitely needed another one.

  • @VkaraujoHusk
    @VkaraujoHusk Місяць тому +4

    The smooth transition to the promo hahahaha XD

  • @rosco3
    @rosco3 Місяць тому +4

    Mountain Thane Prot is insane now, the AoE damage will be insane, don't think the rage generation nerf is enough, it was overcapping rage in AoE pulls

    • @Daemos66
      @Daemos66 Місяць тому +2

      Yeah, there's no way Colossus pulls ahead. It feels rage starved by comparison to MT. I don't see there's changes doing anything to that.

  • @chewyy50
    @chewyy50 Місяць тому +1

    Let’s go Dratty getting sponsors on these now. New dratty tech to print money

  • @unclvinny
    @unclvinny Місяць тому +1

    It’s got what plants crave!

  • @Aethermie
    @Aethermie Місяць тому +4

    thank god they nerf prevoker (saying it as a prevoker main myself). Now delete fucking augmentation-crocodiles from M+ and I'm happy with my class.

    • @ThePolarpop
      @ThePolarpop Місяць тому

      Huh. Never heard of them referred to as crocodiles.

  • @penqu1ns
    @penqu1ns Місяць тому +1

    SPONSORED VID LETS GO GET THAT BAG

  • @Ahcyc
    @Ahcyc Місяць тому +3

    Being someone who prefers Arms this season has just been so frustrating, the spec just keep catching stray after stray as blizzard tries to tune fury without any kind of compensation buffs for arms. The Warrior discord is even saying the fury changes are coming out as a net gain for fury, neutral on ST (which is what they really need) and a small gain on AoE while Arms its a 1% nerf on ST and AoE and Colossus is still over 9% behind Slayer on ST.

  • @PendlayRoe
    @PendlayRoe Місяць тому +1

    15:50 Manather did some sims, now frostfire frost is only 5.8% behind in single target and actually slightly ahead in AoE (0.5%). It used to be 14% behind in ST so it's getting there :)

  • @kayladecant7332
    @kayladecant7332 Місяць тому +1

    Best part about the Vengeance Mastery buff? I feel less bad using my mast-heavy gear when off-speccing as Veng

  • @samharper1082
    @samharper1082 Місяць тому +1

    Good to see you back squire

  • @JohnFromTheInternet.
    @JohnFromTheInternet. Місяць тому +4

    BM hunters will now not only be bad at AOE, but also ST.... yay

  • @evildarkeevildark5943
    @evildarkeevildark5943 Місяць тому +3

    Poor warriors are like top of the nerf list in every hotfix :D...
    good i play prot warr and we got just a little bit nerf with rage but i hope its fine :)

  • @timmy3211
    @timmy3211 Місяць тому +1

    Absolutely wild that they would nerf blistering scales without nerfing white swings across the board, or reducing the xalatath damage bonus on 12s

  • @robertocortesortiz1528
    @robertocortesortiz1528 Місяць тому +2

    BUFF HOLY PALADIN WHAT IS THIS

    • @fastydave
      @fastydave Місяць тому

      You're an ISU fan, you should already be wearing your nut cup

  • @afkjustin
    @afkjustin Місяць тому +2

    Can you do a "conclusion" or "thoughts" at the end? Thanks.

  • @jonathanmatthews8862
    @jonathanmatthews8862 Місяць тому +2

    Master of Harmony is actually a well designed spec; it’s just behind in numbers. For tanks it was only a bit behind but for Mistweavers it wasn’t even a close second. To the point that you would feel like you are griefing your raid if you play it. That’s not really where the hero specs should be.

  • @brucewayne4172
    @brucewayne4172 Місяць тому +1

    Chronowarden prevokers feelin good

  • @JoshSmiththeoneandonly
    @JoshSmiththeoneandonly Місяць тому

    that wallpaper was sick!

  • @RunicSoulEater
    @RunicSoulEater Місяць тому +4

    Ah yes, take the thing resto shamans have zero of, an external, and make the kinda external we had even worse. Of course, how did we never think of this.

  • @morgenmuffel5747
    @morgenmuffel5747 Місяць тому +10

    They need to demote the BM hunter dev and hire one that understands the spec and can run a basic sim. With these changes they nerfed BM ST by 9%, making it now the worst spec in mythic raid and bottom 3 in heroic. As it was already the weakest DPS in M+, the dev just single-handedly killed the spec in all forms of group content

  • @zuralani1
    @zuralani1 Місяць тому +1

    Almost every havoc response to aldrachi being buffed was negative. People were RELIEVED when the total buffs turned out to probably not change anything. That shows how bad that hero tree is in terms of design, yet it is having absolutely no changes in 11.0.5.

  • @chaoticpotato6404
    @chaoticpotato6404 Місяць тому +1

    Paid promotion Dratnos!?!?!? Our boy has hit the Big Leagues!!!!

  • @chrisbreen6484
    @chrisbreen6484 Місяць тому +1

    that promo was so clumsy that i actually watched it because it was funny 😂

  • @Kevmoeman
    @Kevmoeman Місяць тому +2

    They need to buff Colossus size, 5% size? I want to be able to see the Colossus in town like "oh shit that's a Colossus warrior" vibes, need more size

  • @VitaliyIndie
    @VitaliyIndie Місяць тому +2

    nice lean sip 💯

  • @TheJackhicksisc
    @TheJackhicksisc Місяць тому +2

    Wait was the sound when drinknos said "aaaah" after swigging the drink added in post or just insane timing with a part of the background music? Either way I'm astonished.

  • @scanGfu
    @scanGfu Місяць тому +8

    I guess frost DK is considered balanced

    • @Crayzyy
      @Crayzyy Місяць тому +2

      It hasnt been good since Wotlk so i think its fine for it to be good.

    • @schmidth
      @schmidth Місяць тому +1

      ​​@@Crayzyy100%, if something is good for the first time in forever just let it stay good for at least ONE whole season. Or do yall just wanna see augmagespriest again?

  • @BorgWolf359
    @BorgWolf359 Місяць тому +1

    I'm keeping an eye on the changes but am not playing until November after the 20th Anniversary drops! All of this will change again by then at least three more times! They need to fix the Earthen brokenness!

  • @Sekraiii
    @Sekraiii Місяць тому +1

    Guess they forgot the Sub Rogue buffs to Black Powder on the US patch notes, but 35% dmg increase to black powder might make it a bit better for m+ along with the Ass aoe nerfs

  • @sombrego2260
    @sombrego2260 Місяць тому

    The Coalescece for Mistweaver is a huge buff that could make the spec honestly OP for the dumbest reason. It used to be 10% and it means now that whenever you apply the buff all of your throughput is 30% higher which is a huge number.

  • @rockstar6goalkeeper
    @rockstar6goalkeeper Місяць тому +1

    Aldrachi Reaver is a vengeance tree, and those buffs are really good for it. I don't think havoc will be forced to play AR now

  • @Delemaroth
    @Delemaroth Місяць тому +3

    That was possibly the most awkward ad in the history of youtube

  • @Schilani
    @Schilani 29 днів тому

    For the BDK Sanlayn changes: The main issue for me is still and always will be, that with that tree you now have to use two defensive cooldowns offensively. Not only do you use DRW offensively and don't really care about the parry chance it gives, but you also need to use Vampiric Blood offensively. And not just that, you have to stack so much health and uptime on the boss, that you can use it less than every 30 seconds. And don't you dare ever drop those 30 seconds, because then your output just plummets. In comparison Deathbringer is a lot more lenient.

  • @Xynth25
    @Xynth25 Місяць тому +5

    BM eating a 9-15% ST nerf and still 40% behind MM in aoe lmao...feelsbad

  • @tbreeze79
    @tbreeze79 Місяць тому

    I'm sticking with my Resto Druid. Everyone jumping on Resto Shaman and Evoker boat. I like being challeneged in Mythic+ for healing with my Resto Druid.

  • @mietek958
    @mietek958 Місяць тому +20

    That BM change is 9% nerf for single target and 9% buff for aoe, seems fine but in reality BM is now 10-15% behind on single target in comparison to MM and survival, and 40% behind on AOE in comparison to MM which means that it is basically dead as dps spec.

    • @SouthernDrinkSlinger
      @SouthernDrinkSlinger Місяць тому +5

      Exactly this. They nerfed the one thing BM actually had going for it...

    • @TheDopeGoblin
      @TheDopeGoblin Місяць тому

      Those single target changes are not 9 percent nerfs. You’re way overestimating the single target nerd

    • @avalectra1
      @avalectra1 Місяць тому

      Yeah but you can literally do everything while moving. 100% uptime always.

    • @Smartiezs
      @Smartiezs Місяць тому +4

      @@avalectra1 every specc has enough movement tools to execute their rotation without loosing dps, we are not in classic anymore. maybe it takes a bit longer than bm to learn the fight, know when you need the movement in the fight, but when you progress the fights you will see people catch up very quick to their speccs full potential while hunters stay almost the same dpswise. bm is good for nothing now, not good in st, not good in burst aoe, not good in sustained aoe, not good in execute, not good for bursting down a new priority target. if movement really is a problem, why not give bm something they have to stand still, but do more dmg.

    • @havtor007
      @havtor007 Місяць тому +2

      ​@avalectra1 Fire Mage does 99% of their damage on the move you never see this argument about fire mage.

  • @ziggs123
    @ziggs123 Місяць тому +5

    Voidweaver baby ❤

  • @James_Johnson79
    @James_Johnson79 Місяць тому +2

    San’Layn’s biggest detriment is that Reaper just throws out like 3 or more huge scythes.
    Maybe if the blood abomination showed up a lot more often it would give it that visible ooof it needs.

    • @mrmoveup
      @mrmoveup Місяць тому

      Yes. Make it proc on demand. Let's say from dancing rune weapon. Having proc based tank defensive is troll. Though there is some kind of this change coming up in the anniversary patch. Would be perfectly happy with San being more defensive and easier to play spec vs death more offensive and skill intensive

    • @James_Johnson79
      @James_Johnson79 Місяць тому

      @@mrmoveup thing is I’m not sure what real defensiveness it brings, but it and the “condemn” animation vamp strikes use are the only really cool thing about the hero tree.
      So let it have that pizzazz in a regular cadence that can also be used on demand at the points where we need help with defense and aggro - the start of a pull.

  • @phulcq6716
    @phulcq6716 Місяць тому

    I've barely touched my mage this expansion but from the beta I remember frostfire being super, super awkward to play due to the projectile behaviour of frostfire bolt. For frost I think it had a slower travel time than frostbolt, which meant it wouldn't do the classic shatter combo, which feels bad (even if numerically it works out fine). And for fire I remember it feeling really weird with heating up procs, again I think probably due to a slow projectile time. If they haven't done something about those interactions since then I suspect people will be avoiding frostfire, even if the numbers are competitive.

  • @Priisti
    @Priisti Місяць тому +1

    RIP BM. lets see what next patch gives.

  • @zacharyperry1254
    @zacharyperry1254 Місяць тому +6

    Does anyone else read the blue post in Draty-D's voice too?

    • @guffels
      @guffels Місяць тому +1

      why would I read it when this video is always out same day

  • @PhoTC
    @PhoTC Місяць тому +2

    Anytime everyone's taking one spec all of the time it's good that they are buffing the other one - *cries in oracle disc*

  • @NerdNavigator
    @NerdNavigator Місяць тому +10

    *slow clap for gutting BM single target damage while doing pretty much nothing for AoE* Great job blizzard.

  • @nmisteli7385
    @nmisteli7385 Місяць тому +3

    Whoever is touching hpal at blizzard is just lost as hell

  • @tek512
    @tek512 Місяць тому +2

    Well, Unholy DK is dead now. It wasn't even overperforming to start with. That nerf makes no sense.

  • @ztormur6504
    @ztormur6504 Місяць тому +2

    oh my god, i love that sponsor bit. pure gold !

  • @mekevinnn
    @mekevinnn 28 днів тому

    You know it's real when you see at least one mage spec being buffed

  • @geoffreybentley5619
    @geoffreybentley5619 Місяць тому +3

    dps warriors just need a rework.

    • @markuslc1888
      @markuslc1888 Місяць тому +1

      agreed

    • @ThePolarpop
      @ThePolarpop Місяць тому +1

      I dont even like warrior and I agree for you

  • @Cyballistic
    @Cyballistic Місяць тому +3

    Wtf is the balance “team” doing. Hpal changes are absolute incompetence.

  • @joaomacedo4837
    @joaomacedo4837 Місяць тому +4

    Sometimes I wish I was more like Dratnos

    • @TheMartianBotanist
      @TheMartianBotanist Місяць тому +4

      Be yourself unless you can be dratnos then be dratnos

  • @thelastspectre8141
    @thelastspectre8141 Місяць тому +2

    Rogues, "we EXPECT this to be an overall net increase" do we expect anything from blizzard in terms of balancing...they are litterally reverting 80% of there nerfs to alot of these classes from when they nerfed them in beta, for example shadow priest just now most of them like void blast was nerfed back them just to get buffed yet again when they should have just left it alone from the start

  • @Frowntain
    @Frowntain Місяць тому +3

    I hate that they nerfed outlaw so hard only to undo the nerfs once they realized how terrible the tier set was but only after the RWF.

    • @phenax1144
      @phenax1144 Місяць тому

      Yeah they just have no idea how to handle rogue i doubt a single dev playes rogue at this point

    • @okkipooky8612
      @okkipooky8612 Місяць тому

      I mean they DID know the tier set was weak because of outside sources doing the sims and also internally blizz agreed.
      Which is why they “nerfed” the spec and gave the power to the tier to make the tier better….
      It just didn’t have the result they wanted so they are buffing the baseline back up.

  • @kernel2006
    @kernel2006 Місяць тому +2

    Ya boy’s staying hydrated 💪

  • @Checkem
    @Checkem Місяць тому +2

    brawndo, it's got electrolytes

  • @HowNowBrownCow69
    @HowNowBrownCow69 Місяць тому +2

    10/10 Ad Dratty

  • @datguy2271
    @datguy2271 Місяць тому +1

    As a Brew player, I think the devs doesn't understand anything.
    With 4pc, the main dps source is Keg. Shado-pan buffs Keg, while Harmony doesn't. Why would I run Harmony even with the tuning? Now the only good thing about Harmony is that you get more Celestial Brews, and a bit more healing from Purifying. That's sounds ok, expect that both of these defensive spells are pretty dogshit. Celestial Brew is basically just 1-2 casts of Ignore Pain. Amazing.
    Brewmaster obviously needs buff to its base kit rather than hero talents. Hope they come soon.

  • @deejkeithanmusic
    @deejkeithanmusic Місяць тому +2

    First patch in my life where none of my 4 mains got nerfed.

  • @hudsonhoch
    @hudsonhoch Місяць тому +2

    brb buying 1000 pure kick drinks

  • @luxyslovy
    @luxyslovy Місяць тому +1

    Funny to see that ret went from "D tier never used" to "I dont think this spec needs a buff" in the span of a month.

  • @nickh4354
    @nickh4354 Місяць тому +2

    Me Fury. Me give no group benefits, no utility, no single target damage, but me kill trash good.

  • @haydenwallace2056
    @haydenwallace2056 Місяць тому +1

    BM is essentially fucked until they release the full rework. ST will be mid and AOE is still abysmal.

  • @PlukeMaps
    @PlukeMaps Місяць тому +1

    I hate dealing with templars 5 spender without wasting holy power wish it wasnt buffed tbh or it was 4 spender instead

  • @CreatorOfWrath
    @CreatorOfWrath Місяць тому +2

    Oh boy, a tiny buff to wildstalker.... that changes nothing for feral. They aren't having any changes in the anniversary patch, so I have no idea what plans blizz has. Hopefully, something will happen soon because they will be in the gutter soon.

    • @Ben-iv4yb
      @Ben-iv4yb Місяць тому

      Are you on crack?

    • @perfectman3077
      @perfectman3077 Місяць тому +1

      Hasn't feral been in the gutter for the past 10 years anyway??

    • @ThePolarpop
      @ThePolarpop Місяць тому

      ​@@perfectman3077minus like 2 seasons inbetween, yeah.

    • @perfectman3077
      @perfectman3077 Місяць тому

      @@ThePolarpop it is baffling how much love some of these new trash classes get, yet the much loved classes who made the game popular are left in the dumpster.

  • @Shewars
    @Shewars Місяць тому +1

    "I'm died I guess" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @johndoee4964
    @johndoee4964 28 днів тому

    I went from carrying my raid group to watching my heals do nothing at all. I'm now losing to Hpaladin, RDruid and Holy Priest, can you guess which class I play?

  • @KyleSportsman
    @KyleSportsman Місяць тому +5

    Well we had fun Fury mains

    • @loganwebb5086
      @loganwebb5086 Місяць тому +2

      yeah i dont have time level and gear anoither character think im done for season

    • @ThePolarpop
      @ThePolarpop Місяць тому

      Saw other warriors saying this is super fine for em but I have no idea

  • @Kamia2003
    @Kamia2003 Місяць тому +2

    More rogue buffs plz(not Assa AoE just ST)

  • @ic3t3ap3ach
    @ic3t3ap3ach Місяць тому

    where are the healing buffs to other classes?

  • @whirlwinddragon
    @whirlwinddragon Місяць тому +4

    Pres Evoker here - the overhealing thing on Consume Flame is deceptive, because Consume Flame currently spits out massive amounts of healing onto every target it can find, including pets. Pets are usually at full health, so that's basically all overhealing, causing the overhealing number to appear higher in logs than it actually is. Going into the log you showed, it looks like the actual overhealing done by Consume Flame on players is closer to 10-20% on average (with a few outliers such as the pres evoker itself). So this nerf will probably kill Flameshaper Preservation... but Preservation as a spec will be fine because Chronowarden is also very strong and is more fun to play anyways.

    • @dakotawoodruff2622
      @dakotawoodruff2622 Місяць тому +3

      Time to blanket raids with echos and cast Lifebind/Spiritbloom. more "fun" for some I guess.

    • @ThePolarpop
      @ThePolarpop Місяць тому

      M+ pres evoker here who just learned how to do the flameshaper build last night so I could apply to guilds to raid ..but played chrono spirit week 1 and 2 for tier set in non guild raids.. I'm not sure which id prefer long term but definitely think the flameshaper build was fun as a shiny new thing at least. Dont mind spiritblooming tho. Just please god no reversion perma entire raid w minor emerald blooms DF s1 shit again

  • @alexandergiresi7731
    @alexandergiresi7731 Місяць тому +1

    what the heck is this purple drink ad in the middle of my patch notes

  • @bneva123
    @bneva123 29 днів тому

    I still cannot believe Frost DK hasn't been touched but Fury (which is worse) has gotten like 4 nerfs. I don't even care that Frost is good, but make balancing consistent.

  • @fred114b
    @fred114b Місяць тому +1

    The BM nerfs are devestating to the spec. small AOE increase very large single target nerf

  • @tommythecat10
    @tommythecat10 Місяць тому +1

    FINALLY

  • @Blackbirdone11
    @Blackbirdone11 Місяць тому

    So the buff for prot pala dont ghange anything it dont raise the 2.9% tank balance on prot to anywere.

  • @IchWillDasMW3
    @IchWillDasMW3 Місяць тому +1

    FYI, mage is kinda in the same boat as aldrachi where we are hoping Frostfire doesnt get buffed any more. It does fundamentally not work very well with either specs kit. Fire wants to cast fireball as rarely as possible anyways which is the skill that Frost Fire bolt is replacing. Also the travel time of the skill is super high making awkward to use. Frost has problems where in contrast to frost bolt the new version calculates damage on cast not impact, resulting in the core frost combo of bolt into flurry into double ice lance not working.

    • @ThePolarpop
      @ThePolarpop Місяць тому

      Wait seriously? I havent played mage in a while but was a serious frost and fire mage back in bfa and on. . . ???? Why would they ever make something that replaces not shatter the way every single other frost mage spell is setup??

  • @alexanderadams9008
    @alexanderadams9008 Місяць тому

    Some attention to aff and destro would be nice

  • @tom9764
    @tom9764 Місяць тому +1

    Dratnos, I love you