My Favorite Shanked Bit for Gaited Horses
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- Опубліковано 3 лис 2024
- What if you need to ride in a shanked bit on the trail? What if you want to neck rein or show your horse and can't use a snaffle? Try this!
The MacGregor releasing bit.
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I absolutely like this bit and I have it, but the only problem is it rubs the corners of their mouth so you’ll have to use Big guards
@@aliceshaff1300 yes, some horses so need bit guards, but not all.
Rode a quarter horse, with a loose rein. Also an Appaloosa. They both neck reined
They both had a Whoa. .
It's very normal to train quarter horses that. Gaited horses don't have that same kind of training.
Can you do a one rein stop in this bite
So much easier to spell Starnes instead of Schexnader,lol.
I like a mullen mouth bit. Can you give a price for this bit?
I always have ridden in a snaffle until I bought an 8 year old green Rocky Mountain Mare.
She’s had training with a gentleman who put on a lot of miles on her in the mountains. He started
Her in a snaffle but gradually transitioned to a short shank myler bit because she was pulling and was
Ready for a transition. I have been riding her and putting miles on her but noticed when i get into a
Situation that startles me my hands get heavy and not relaxed and she starts throwing her head, which
I know is my fault. I need to work on this but don’t want to hurt her mouth either. I guess my question is,
Is this bit mild enough for someone who normally has light hands but new to the curb bit. I watch your videos
And love your way of training.
i had snaffle bits in ridingschool it is shit on a lazy or unruly horse - the TVR in Arizona had long shanked flat bit and so easy it was for me and the horse -a finger moving only :-)
How much are the bit you’re selling thank you
Yes it makes the horse listen but ITS because og pain
Yes, I totally agree, it can cause pain! Which is why I only recommend this for short training sessions and for those who are worried about their safety. I advocate training rather than big bits, but rider safety is important.
Ivy Schexnayder Why would you get on your horse, to go on the trail, if you don’t feel safe in the first place? People shouldn’t be riding their horses if they don’t feel safe in the first place! Spend more time working with your horse, doing groundwork and building a relationship and you won’t need a bit or any other pain causing devices or tools
Hi Ivy! What is the size of the shanks you prefer? Did the palomino horse you showed wear the original size bit or the prototype? If you rode the horse in both sizes, did he have a preference? Thankyou!
I have a rescue and he has been through some pretty serious abuse we have worked on trust for the last year and I don't think he likes the bit it has a long shank and a medium size port I own quarter horse so not very familiar with Walker bits please help want him to be comfortable and controllable Thank Tina.
There's no such thing as "gaited horse bits". They are like any horse. He may want to go bitless, or in a snaffle, or in a bit like this. You just have to try different things.
Can you please do ride along video with a high headed twh using this bit. Before and after please. I really think this bit can help our gaited horses. Thanks
You have to do this training in a snaffle first, taking vertical flexion and head down. Then you can use this bit. I'll try to get a video of some kind like that, but it may be a little bit. Subscribe to my channel for updates!
Hi Ivy.
Do you need other products? Like other gag bit
Hi Ivy, do you also have a favourite bitless bridle for gaited horses?
I do! I have designed my own bitless bridle that I ride and train some horses in. shop.ivyshorses.com/Ivys-Soft-Touch-Bitless-Bridle-BRDL0001.htm
I am looking to develop another soft nylon kind of bitless bridle that will hopefully be cheaper and a slightly different style.
Ivy Schexnayder thanks Ivy. I'll look into it. 😊
@@IvyS that link is not working. Just so you know.
@@gailmadsenclayton1769 thanks! I've stopped selling this because I can't get it made anymore.
What's your opinion about the bosel ? Do you think it's good for gaited horses?
rrr rrr: If you know how to fit and use it properly, absolutely.
Bosal is good for ANY horse
I’m using the Rocking S snaffle on my Appaloosa mare and it has helped her tremendously. However, she fights me and the bit to try to go faster on the way back to the barn or when she feels afraid. I end up turning her in a lot of circles or just getting her behind another horse to slow down. Do you think this bit will help to make her slow down? I’m not afraid when she does this, but trying to find the best solution so that we both have an enjoyable ride. Thank you for all your videos!
Stacey, I am so glad the Rockin S raised snaffle is working well for you! If your mare is fighting you, the first thing you need to work on is training. That is a training issue. However, if you feel you can't do the training and need to stay safe, this bit is a good option, but it is not a replacement for training. You can also switch between the two bits, doing as much as you can in the snaffle, working to train her to relax more and more, even coming back home. If I have a horse that is rushing home, I just turn them away from home and once they are walking calmly, I head home again. As soon as they speed up, I head away from home again. I also give them opportunity to eat on the road away from home if this will help them enjoy being out.
Thank you for the training tips and quick reply, will try this and I might get the bit as well.
Do you think gaited can compite in other classes then pleasure? Extrem cowboy?
rrr rrr: Gaited breeds are very versatile! Trail classes, endurance, cutting, advanced reining (they can't really compete at the lower levels, as they don't perform the jog, so they will be penalized), barrel-racing, even show-jumping. Gaited breed shows and societies often have classes and/or exhibitions of quadrille dressage--a group of horses and riders performing together.
absolutly, I have used my gaited horse in many and Extreme Cowboy will work.
👏stop👏using👏shanked👏bits👏with👏constant👏contact👏
I totally agree. I never use constant contact and if you watch the video, this video and others, you know I recommend riding on a loose rein!
Finally an intelligent person
@@IvyS Bullshit. You use constant pressure I see & use always use bits.
Hi Ivy, I like that its a short purchase and looks like a good +/- 3 to 1 ratio, however I'm curious as to the shape of the shanks. I get it about the leaned forward mouth helping a horse get more vertical, does the forward curve of the shank also contribute to this? I usually like to get my hands on a bit, balance the mouth on one finger to see where the natural lay of the bit is, I'm having a bit of trouble visualizing this. Thanks. BTW, LOVE your videos, have helped me tons with my Paso Fino who seems to have left his Brio and some gait behind years ago.
This is the bit with the longer shank and includes a description of how it works: www.ehorseequipment.com/inc/sdetail/55634/55638
I am so glad the videos have helped!
email me and I can send you a photo of the bit balancing on my finger. ivyshorses@gmail.com
rivergem03: A forward-curved bit has much more leverage than backwards-slanted or straight ones. It is a powerful bit, and only experienced riders should use it--if you don't have very educated hands, stick with backwards-slanted curbs, like the standard Western grazing bit. The fact is, if your horse needs that much leverage to perform correctly, someone needs more training--your horse, you, or both of you.
Ideally, your horse should have been initially trained to "get vertical" in a halter or bosal. If people rely on the bit to set their horses' heads or collect them up, they are fighting a losing battle.
My Paso Fino is 20 this year and I wish he would have left a LITTLE of his brio in his youth. After all, I'm getting older, too, lol!
It's not forward slanted. It doesn't really matter what shape the shanks are in. What matters is the length and where the attachment point for the reins is. If you look at the side profile, the rein connection point is actually behind where the mouthpiece and the purchase are. Something else I've started to realize. Most people, myself included, instinctually consider a longer shank bad. However there are two ways to look at this. Yes, a heavy hand can put more crank or leverage the longer the shank. However, the longer the shank the slower the reaction time. Meaning a horse has more warning and time to respond before the pressure increases. The shorter the shank the less time the horse has to react before full pressure is applied. It's jerky. Imagine trying to time hopping off a swing with a very long rope vs a short rope. Understanding this has changed my thoughts on bits quite a lot.
Ride without bits!
Congrats!Me too.
Just.. Just stop! It Hurt do much watch allison totterdale what bits do to horses
Are these in stock yet?