All About Bits (CONTROVERSY) | ZL Equestrian
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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Hey guys! Thanks for joining me for another video, this time I break down some examples of the ever-growing controversy of bits, what to use, what I use and much more.
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"I hope this was *a bit* helpful"
I get it. 🤣
This was a really helpful video! Thanks so much for making it
Thanks for all the explanations. It was thorough and helpful. However, oddly, you never showed the kinds of bits that I have :(. Still looking for a video about those. I think one of the bits is called a correction bit. Not sure.
this was informative and educational on the different types of bits out there.
At 20:16 if you look in the back the horse is freaking out ha ha
I don't know why but I'm really starting to feel weird about bits... I know some horses benefit from them and it's a safety thing for many riders but I can't shake this feeling in my gut that doesn't want to shove a hunk of metal in my horses mouth to control him.
It can depend on the training of your horse and what you’re doing with them too! Once upon a time I had a heavy bit in my horse because he would run away and slowly but surely I trained him down to a simple double jointed snaffle. Now I use halter for a nice quiet hack and only use a bit if he’s having a feisty day or if we’re doing some jumping or dressage where I need quick reactions or more communication since there can be a lag with the halter. My whole point is that yes, trust your gut but not every day or situation will be the same. Try different things out and listen to your horse, not the people on the internet that would make you feel bad when they don’t know anything about you or your horse. :)
yet bitless is controlling them the same way just via nose pressure
Can you do a video more specifically about about other riding accessories like Martengales, draw reins, side reins, flash nose bands, figure 8 etc.
elizabethcorin Yep! This is sort of the first piece of that series.
I agree, I would LOVE to see more of that sort of thing, I can't wait for future videos!
@@pariahmouse7794 ok I'm out im leaving i hate you bits horses
I am also not a fan of anything twisted! Thanks for sharing, love to hear different trainer’s (logical) opinions. 😊
Beth Cannon Thanks Beth! 💕
@@ZLEquestrian Thanks for this informative video. I'm going to forward it to my daughter & her equestrian college friends. Bravo, great lecture!
@@joannastgeorge5499 stupid
@joannastgeorge549thsts not going to that school I'm not going to period I don't want to be a horse trainer I'm out
I'm not your friend because you like bits
I would love to see a tack room tour
Hailey Campbell Coming soon!
wait im bitless why am i watching this lmfao
Autumn Sparrowdawn potentially to learn more? hahaha
I'm bitless too, I have no clue why I'm watching this...
Rebecca Murphy maybe it’s because you want to learn?
@@hannahraymond6074 I don't have the want or need to learn about bits. I actually despise them!
Rebecca Murphy then why even click on this video and bother commenting?
ahh yay! happy to hear a professional talk about this. i always try and just use a simple loose ring french link snaffle but do occasionally come across a horse that i need a little more to avoid hauling on his/her mouth, especially out XC. i’ll usually just pick a pelham if i come across that so i can ride primarily on the snaffle rein:) just gotta make sure to avoid anything twisted haha
@@crayeventer2848 , how do you know your horse " likes " it ?
@@crayeventer2848 , can you describe " comfortable " behavior signals / observations ?
@@crayeventer2848 , does " rolling " a bit in a horse's mouth equal comfort ?
@@crayeventer2848 , what evidence do you have to present that " rolling " a bit for a horse indicates comfort ? Does this horse " roll " any other foreign object of pleasure in it's mouth ?
Is it possible that " rolling " a bit indicates discomfort ?
this is so helpful as a beginner! all the different bits kind of intimidated me, so this was a great way to break down the what's, why's, and how's of each type. thank you!!
Ashley Glad I can help!
@@ZLEquestrian will you get anymore horses or a horse for you to own personally?
What if you read the peer reviewed, published studies of researchers stating bits are aversive ?
As a beginner, please don’t use bits at all. Horses don’t usually need them and beginners are notorious for having hard hands and using bits as a way to hang on. Don’t use bits until you know how to actually ride. Or better yet, don’t use them at all: my horse rides perfectly off of leg pressure and rarely needs contact from the hackamore or rope halter (whatever I’m riding in).
@@paxtoncat9795 how many horses do you own?
I used to be the biggest gatekeeper for bitless riding, my stance was that anyone using a bit was abusive. My opinion changed when I actually bought my first horse, that put me in my place 🤣🤣🤣
You’re just feeling guilty thats all
@@vm5954you did good by not using a stupid bits if you do I'm not friends with anyone who force bits in horses mouths
@@dariaharruff7025 It's not by force. And saying you don't want to be friends with someone who uses a bit is like someone saying that they don't want to be friends with someone who uses a collar for a dog or a harness for a cat. I respect that you aren't into riding horses, but saying, "I don't want to be friends with someone who uses a bit for their horse," makes no sense. Just because you see someone who does use a bit, doesn't mean they're forcing the horse to use one as long as they know how to use them properly, and it doesn't give you an excuse to not be friends with them. And just because you see someone riding bitless doesn't mean bitless is more humane since there are people out there who do misuse them, and equines' noses are as sensitive as their mouths.
@@ariellewilson730 I'm been trying to ride a horse with a bit for two years for lessons I'm too old for that crap I told you I was told how to ride a horse with a stupid bit I don't have a choice why can't I have choices when it comes to horses
@@dariaharruff7025 Oh my God, you are aloud to have choices. The issue is that you said you don't want to be friends with someone who uses a bit, something I don't get from you. And whoever taught you how to use a bit the stupid way shouldn't be teaching you how to ride until you decided to quit which is something I respect, even though you don't have to but it's your choice no one else's, except for the 'I'm too old' excuse because no one is too old for anything. I'm in my twenties and I take horse back riding lessons even though it's been a while since my last lesson.
Look, I don't care if you aren't into horse back riding anymore, but just because you see someone using a bit doesn't mean they're always a bully to their horse. 90% is the hands of the rider, the 10% is from the bit no matter how soft their hands are.
Now, I don't have a horse, but I have a cat, and I always talked about getting a harness and leash for her. Are you going tell me that you don't want to be friends with someone who wants to use those things for a cat? Or how about someone who uses a collar for a dog, including one for a cat? You're not going to be friends with them, either?
To be honest some of the bits that have been made are just useless and extra metal that shouldnt even be in the horses mouth
Honestly! What she said about using the least amount of pressure possible is my philosophy as well. If you need to go as far as putting twisted metal in your horse’s mouth, risking damage to all the sensitive tissue there, maaaaybe take a step back and think about how you’ve been training the horse in the first place?
@@lynxaway i agree with you i would never even buy one unless i wanted it for decoration (yaknow inside the house etc)
@@lynxaway I use a slow twist full cheek single jointed on my mare. She's a quarter horse so she falls a lot on to her forehand. she also has a bad habit of trying to dive into the bit because she does so many beginner lessons. I don't need a harsh bit when I ride her but the beginner riders do.
All horses need a different bit it may have extra metal but its whats best for them and there horse
If I was a horse and you put any one of those bits in my mouth, I'll be bucking you right off my back.
So excited to see your channel grow. Such awesome content :) Not many horse channels do this type of stuff. Well done! Thanks
Bitchie bish Thank you! ❤️
@@ZLEquestrianhorseriding its dangerous I'm out I tried horseriding but I didn't like it
Ohh
You can't force people to do anything they don't want to do I like Rick Gore think like a horse he s anti bit
@@dariaharruff7025 It's dangerous because people make it dangerous. 🤦♀️
Thank you for this great explaination! I especially enjoyed that you went back through some of your horses and explained the 'why'. I find so often a suggestion is made to switch bits, but the 'why' is missing. This helps me (a newer horse person) immensely!
Amanda Acheson Thanks Amanda!
I also love learning the "why", it is easy to learn WHAT each bit does and all that, but the WHY and WHEN to use WHAT is something that only experience (or watching someone with experience explain it) can teach! I really loved this!
All of the horses at the barn i ride at can be ridden in a halter with rope reins, but if we do use bits we use the happy mouth we’re a hunter barn. My trainer also believes in using the least pressure possible on horses’ mouths. Thank you for all the helpful tips 😘❤️
That's it Ive had enough of people forcing me to use bits on horses I quit
With the hack-a-bit combo, I feel like people are scared of it because the shanks look so intimidating. but like you explained, it's all in the hands that use them. I love how informational this is! Finally something educating people, and I love that you're looking from both perspectives both bitted and bitless. Less is more, that's what I go by. I always use Dee rings, loose rings, or eggbutt snaffles. With too joints (french link, or losinch) I've found they always give the best with using the least bit possible. ❤
The thing with one riffled side: We use this while driving horses. The even side ist soft and the riffled side is a little sharper.
Sorry for my bad english, I am from Germany. greetings :D
its 2024 not 1800s okay
I think your English is good. Keep practicing. 😁
Absolutely loved this video! I now know so much about bits haha! I’ve never really understood all the terms but now I do
Ablondandahorse Happy to help!
This was really informative!!
Amanda Bonfante Thanks Amanda!
Thanks for sharing! I'm happy to see that your collection of bits is modest in severity 👍 and I like how you mentioned that severity ultimately comes from that hands. I hope this helps people become more educated on how bits function, this is so important!
This is actually so helpful - I work in a tack store and as much googling as I do I always have customers ask me bitting questions where my answer is "Uh........". This is a really great info source and I'll be sharing with my coworkers!
Elanna R That means a lot to me! Thanks so much 💕
@@ZLEquestrian thats a dumb job
@@ZLEquestrian I don't like that you use bits on horses
I love that you kept this video so informational without getting opinionated!! It's great to be able to teach about a controversial topic without making it a "controversial topic". I feel like so many people when they take about bits (or anything deemed controversial) dance around the subject and try to not say anything for fear of criticism, so thank you for not doing that! This is a great informational video every horse person should see!!
Jen McDonald I did my best, thanks a ton Jen! 💕
Not me I don't want to be with horses anymore I'm sorry I hurt your feelings but I'm out
Brilliant video! You did something that very few people do…explain why. Thank you! ❤
"hope this was a bit helpful." hahaha I get it, good one😅
Very helpful. Do you have a link to the eggbutt 3 piece lozenge? I would like to start with this bit and see if our new horse likes it. They have him in a dutton tear drop smooth snaffle and he seems to chew and move this bit around a lot in his mouth. I guess it will be trial and error. Thank you very much
Hanging cheek bit style "baucher" is actually pronounced boo-shay (it's French)
For people saying horses don’t like bits, and they like nose pressure olny. they seam to like it More because they are used to nose pressure from being halted. the first time a horse uses a halter they don’t like it and they get used to it. The same goes with a bit but it is used later in life so it seams they like bitless more when they might be just as comfortable or more in a bit.
its a torture devices its for an idoit horses riders it sucks to use bits i was forced into that crap
My mom: whatcha watching
Me: it’s a video about bits
My mom: ohh is that “huckamore” in this 😂😂😂
I was like GURL
Laughing at Baucher pronunciation. Otherwise good information
bro deathdollie aint real hacker she just own her game so she can do anything 💀
Absolutly amazing video! Havent found anybody explaining that well and detailed. As I am from Germany I would like to know if you can use any bit you like on a show. We have very specific rules for using them on show - depending if you are riding dressage or jumping/eventing and with class you are showing in.
SmörleMörle No, just like you we have regulations. For example, three ring elevators are not allowed in Hunter classes.
Like your videos, and this was informative! I like to think of it like this: bits are tools, and when used incorrectly they can become a weapon. Just like how a hammer is a is a tool until you hit someone with it, it becomes a weapon. Or how a prong collar for dogs is a tool until you're yanking it; it becomes a painful weapon.
Although some of the jargon I want to understand more, can you show us some visual examples of what "heavy hands" "hard-mouthed horse" "a horse than leans on the bit" looks like? Or the difference it makes when you put two different bits in a horse's mouth, what that looks like?
I thought that was a very nice explanation of bits. People really dont understand what bits do, they see a big combo bit and think it must be harsh, but will put twisted wire snaffles in their horses mouth! I love that you keep it as kind as possible in the mouth and rely on training as the real answer, and of course, horses do prefer slight differences in how the bit feels and acts, but I love that you weren't going to go to the point of dulling a horses mouth with unnecessary bite or pressure!
you want us to ride a horse with bits just stop telling us what to do
@@dariaharruff7025 Quit acting like a baby, no one is telling anyone what to do. 😠
A jointed pelham has a really messy action. Have heard that some horses like them but have never tried one. All my snaffles are either mullen or double jointed. Have considered a waterford bobby bit. Have had success with a rubber mullen bit. He didn't chomp that but he did chomp the happy mouth.
Thank you for my first proper look at a hackabit combo. They look interesting.
This was so interesting! Would love to see more of these kind of videos
When you showed me that really jointed bit, I did get a little scared.😂
But then you explained it so well, I might have to get one!! Thank you!
the amount of times a hackabit has saved my life with my bucker/bolter. he quit the habit soon enough without being too harsh
Can you do a video of different breeds of horses? And this really helped thanks! And mabye how to buy a horse for the first time?
Thanks so much for this video! Where would you get a D-ring egg butt snaffle?
Nowhere. D ring and Egg butt are different things
Great video! I am so happy that you started yt.
You explained very detailed and I could see that you really made an effort. It's not just something you filmed in your free time to finde the different examples and everything! I bet there goes a lot of time in preparing this kind of videos :)
The only thing I missed is something about horses with fuzzy tongue action. My gelding has an overbite (about 5 cm) and he knows how to get away from the pressure with his tongue and any contact really. He can fold his tongue behind the mouthpiece oder he WI put his tongue about it. Do you had anything like that? He goes in a happy mullen mouth bit with loose ring.
It is so bizarre to see double twisted wire bits in the hunter ring, but I see so many 😵
I saw a guy let an extremely heavy-handed beginner ride his horse in one of those bits. I had to walk away before I cried.
i personally think myler bits are some of the best. it’s the only bit i’ve successfully ridden my pony in, he hates everything else. we even had to get a ‘custom made’ myler with universal cheek pieces for jumping since it’s the only bit he’s happy in. the mouth piece is for the horse and the cheek pieces are for the rider😊i say coustom made since it’s not actually a myler brand it’s a different brand that has the same thing and they don’t normally stock that type of bit with the cheek pieces as it’s not very common at all.
Outstanding video! I learned more about bits in 30 min than I’ve picked up so far!
I don't like bits I had to ride a horse on one so I'm quitting my future horse riding lessons for good
yay second! obsessed with ur channel
I dont like anything twisted. Thank you for sharing it was very intresting to hear about all these bits and your opinions. Thank you!
Zoe Burns Thanks!! 💕
What size bits do your horses usually go in?
I've seen two horses of the exact same breed and height need two pretty differently sized bits. I'd imagine each and every one of her horses would need a different size!
I know a lot of hackamores (at least the western version) will have a bike chain or a thin piece of metal under the rubber so that may be one of the reasons people get upset over the hackabit. Just a guess
This was so helpful and informative!! Thank you, think I'm going to be changing my horses setup!
Felicia Hudson Awesome!
My pony came with a double twisted bit when I first got him but thankfully. I switched trainers and I don’t think that we ever used it. Looking back, now that I’m 13 and more experienced I don’t know why anyone would put a horse in that.
I always enjoy the topic on bits. And it's always the hands of the rider - except for the bits that do hurt the horses' mouths no matter how much experience the rider has. No offense.
Loved the video!!!! Taught me a lot about bits, I want to try my horse in a ball bit because they are really forward.
GloryHorse15 Thanks for watching!
What do you think of rubber D ring bits? I saw you playing around with one when you were talking and I was secretly hoping you would talk about it! Haha. I just got my 7yr old ottb project (he raced late) and I’m trying to see what he might like best.. I’ve been an English rider for 7 years and I have a soft hand.
Great video. I love your approach to treating each horse as an individual and being sure to use the bit they like/ need compared to just what you want.
Great video and explanations on the bits! I personally don’t mine a slow twist and never had issues. I however don’t like tight twisted, thin bits. I’m the same though I don’t like single jointed bits and my horse definitely likes Mullen mouth or three piece. Most horses seem happier in them too! It’s so fun learning about bits 🤓
Thanks for this informative video, it was very well put together. My journey to find the perfect bit for my mare has been so hard. She has a small mouth (between 4,5 and 4,75). I tried everything from happy mouth to a Myler, snaffle and elevator. To actually found out that she was better with a small mouthpiece 3 pieces with a French link cause turned out she has a « big » tongue for the size of her mouth!!!
I adopted a green qh mare age 15 and she came with a Tom thumb and she is very heavy on the bit. Loose ring snaffle she was not a fan. Any recommendations for my next bit option?
This is great! I had a trainer who did not really know what she was talking about as far as bits and recommended I ride in a French link to have more leverage and pull on my crazy mare...years of independent training later, I was actually using the softest bit I could for my insane mare 😅😅
The French link actually isn't a leverage bit and it is quite soft.
The French link is just the mouthpiece. The cheek piece would be what determines if it has leverage. Like a three ring or Pelham, vs the standard French link eggbutt.
I love this. Thank you, very educational for a non rider, I'll watch this a bunch times to learn. I very much enjoy learning about horsemanship.
Loooove this, thank you Zoey! I’ve always used simple egg bit snaffles so it’s wonderful to learn such in-depth info on so many different bits. I’ve always been curious but never took the time to really research due to how controversial bits are these days. It’s nice to learn from a trainer/someone’s info I actually trust haha. I love hearing different people’s opinions and uses. You never stop learning. Can’t wait to see more of your content! 😊
If only you could do the same video with western bits! I’d pay money to see that!
Even though u have many bridles for training different horses a clip bridle is the best cause it’s easy to change out the bit and size with ease( used to make a bride everyday for my Arabians and changing the bit every week helped their frame)
Really helpful, thank you!!
It's Baucher, like; Bo-Shay...not Bah-Ker 👍
Have you tried putting Vaseline on the corner of their mouths when you put their bit in?
devin mills Yeah it works but it gets tedious when you can buy guards for $3 and last for a long time.
My trainer does it, but I found it was difficult to clean them well 😅
devin mills aquaphor is even better! Vaseline over time dries the skin out, on both humans and horses!
I currently ride in a happy mouth d ring snaffle, from what you have said about the tongue pinching my horse doesn’t need anything but just a simple bit what would you recommend that is the same as a d ring snaffle but isn’t the single, she sometimes throws her head but I can’t tell if that’s just her being young and sassy or if the bit is a problem ? (She’s a very easy horse)
Darby Zadina I would try a d ring three piece lozenge, it’s the same side pressure minus the nutcracker effect.
Why do you ride a horse in two diffrent bits for flat work and jumping?
Thank you for making this video!👏🏼💕
Have you ever considered riding bitless?
would absolutely love a grooming/bathing routine
you should try riding your horses in a hackmore
Abigail Brown I frequently ride in a halter, check my Instagram.
This is very helful for my horses thanks Zoey!
Such a good objective explanation of how bits work!
thats the stupidest thing i was forced to belive in
I'm so pressed that French Link bits are banned by FEI now.
Pepsithegoat I believe it’s only dressage phase eventing but correct me if I’m wrong!
It's just the plate style ones, not the ones with a lozenge
i Watch your channel all the time i love it!
Hi mam iam from india so wich bit can I use
I just love all your videos! Great to see your opinion on bits
Dappled Dreams Thanks so much! 💕
Great info! Thank you
I have old eglentine bit,
You cannot hit the roof of a horses mouth with a two piece snaffle bit. Period.
in collection you can
Wow! Awesome!
This was amazing! This is exactly the type of thing I love, I am fascinated by the different bits and by learning which ones do what and WHY they are good in certain situations, you could go even more in-depth and I would find it fascinating!
I love your videos, and your knowledgeable and considerate approach to horsemanship is great to see! It REALLY is all in the hands of the rider, I wish more people understood that!
More content like this would be very welcome!
Why do u like bits I hate bits and horse riding I quit
@@dariaharruff7025 Why can't you respect others' choices and preferences? There's no one sided choice and preference, you know.
So my trainer had my horse in a full cheek snaffle and said she could ONLY be in a full cheek because she was an OTTB. It was only until after I bought her and tried a few bits to find that she did wayyyyyyyy better in a D ring snaffle. I honestly felt like I had less control with the full cheek and she would constantly fight the bit. She had no problems with the D ring and I didn't even need to use much pressure. Why do you think this is??
Or you could just train the horse to behave they way you want and get out of the mouth altogether.
some horses prefer bits over hackamores/bitless bridles
Thanks for all the info!
Hi…I love this video….not sure if you’ll see this but I have a mare that’s very forward. She likes to throw her head up and rush. I currently ride her in twisted wire bits but hate them 😞 I was taught to have your horse in the lightest bit possible when riding and to work on softness and suppleness with leg and seat cues. My mare is in training to be “all around” jumping trail riding and barrel racing. What but would you recommend off this information? I’d like to have her in the softest bit possible without her running off with me 🙃
Wow 😳
I'm currently riding a horse that likes to "suck" on the bit and refuse to let it go. His owner needs him to be lighter in the mouth(i also feel so but the needs it as she's got reumatism, i Think it's called in english). And he can get really strong thus she has put him in a pelham 3piece, as she needed to be able to stop him(he was very forward when he came to her).
Now as i study more i'm thinking about a watherferd.(if that's how it's spelled)🤔 anyone got a thought about this? To help me understand what might fit him best.
When he takes the bit he more easely loose focus on the rider and can get a bit spooky on random things thus i want to test something else. We do not have any indoor arena so it's always a lot to look at.
And last of all, sorry for my english it's not my first language😅and thanks for all help might get😊❤
As far as the hackabit you have.... The happy mouth mullen is big and bulky. I know that's what really didn't work with my horse, as he has a small mouth. It hurt me to hear him struggle to breathe.
I have a 22 year old Arab mare that spent her whole life a brood. I bought her and started her and with 40 years of experience I still dont understand most of these bits. This mare is very busy with her mouth( like nervous nose twitching) I've started her with just a plain o ring broken snaffle. I'm worried about being to rough with my hands but dont want to hurt her. I've always preferred snaffle and hackemores as well as giving this horse a good experience. Should I stick with the snaffle and just keep training or switch to a different bit. I'm afraid this isnt my area of expertise
Honestly the best video on bits I have ever seen. Very informative, clear explanations, not too biased.
Phenomenal video thank you!
Omg such detailed explanations, kept me interested till the last minute. I don't know who you are, popped up on my channel after I searched for a specific bubble bit I rode a horse with a sensitive tongue in - and instantly subscribed. Will check out your other videos now, I think you jump? I love your approach and focus. Love from Germany :)
Hello
I totally agree with your opinion on the Hackabit. I ride my eventig horse in showjumping and corsscounty with one and it works very well for me. He is a pretty forward going horse and if I ride with a pelham for example, he just puts his head closer to his chest and still be going like crazy. But when using the Hackabit he seems to enjoy the nosepressure and keeps his head much higher. So I can comunicate with a much softer hand and allot clearer comands. I must say it is the best solution for us.
But like you, I keep getting some weird looks from people because of the specal looks of it.
I like your videos verry much. Well done:)
(sorry for any grammar mistakes. I'm not a nativ speaker)
Just for a little information - the reason people(including myself) don't like a hack-bit, is because it's a gag. The gag sends a lot of different cues to different places, and it also rises in the mouth - and considering a bit is typically placed about 1-1.5" from the molars, most gags have enough slide to hit the molar. I personally find it rather appalling that a bit would ever go up that high, not to mention that most people do not put a curb strap on any type of gag, allowing it to over-rotate and really squeeze the horse's mouth between the hack leverage, and the curb, bit, and poll interaction.
Personally, I'd prefer to just use a hack over a snaffle than a hack-bit. I think if the hack-bit had a fixed cheek, there would be too much leverage most of the time due to the length of the hack shanks and it could be very damaging to the horse's mouth, but I dislike the gag as well - so a hack over a snaffle would be my pick. Then, I can use the snaffle when needed but still have the hack for a little poll pressure added if I need it.
I love Waterfords...learned about them late into my horse life. Seem so comfortable for the horse. Watching you talk about the haca bit...sometimes the "worst/biggest" whatever looking bits are much better than a twisted wire, they just look like they are severe...rider's hand's of course to be considered, as you mentioned. with anything. I use to use a "micmar"...looked bad but wasn't , in the right hands. It's like with dog collars...a pinch collar looks worse than a choke collar...but, the choke collar, so so misued by so many . A properly used pinch collar it's place. Oh, if the animals could just tell us, right off the bat. This was a great video...thanks!
I have a horse who is Super dull to the bit.Hes in a Kimberwick and does have the curbchain.what would you recommend for him?
I loved this video. It IS all about the hands and not necessarily the bit!
I have light hands and I like some contact. I have an 18.1h 2300lb Percheron that I tried in a ton of different snaffles thinking I was being kind but he would get so heavy no matter what you did and all the “leg” in the world was doing nothing. And let me tell you, a horse that size pulling like a freight train is exhausting, lol. Finally I got him a mullen mouth pelham and now you can ride him on your pinkies. Not because of any severity but just bc he likes it. He’s light in the front and engages from behind and that’s really all I wanted from him for the little riding he does. In the end it made sense bc he’s a driving horse and used to going in a Liverpool so the mm Pelham is the closest riding bit to that. But then I have another Perchie and he loves the oval link eggbutt. I have the same light hands on both horses, they are similar in way of going and temperament, but they just like what they like in their mouths. I would consider swapping their bits more harsh than anything since the one will pull and dull his soft mouth and the other will fight the leverage and it would ruin his too. So it’s nice to point out that it’s not the bits, it’s the hands.
What do you think of kimberwicks btw?
I ride bitless, always have. Because of this I don't know much about bits and how they work. This was very helpful, so thank you 😊
I don't like chains and long shanked bits. You shouldn't need that kind of pressure on a horse's mouth.
What kind of bit would u suggest for a hard to steer/heavy on the forehand type horse. I have him in a thick eggbutt single jointed snaffle right now...and he responds...but its like he doesnt respect the bit or what im telling him. (Ie circles/turns etc)