All of Mr. Thapar's interviews on this subject should be compiled, and curated. These interviews, in themselves, are an indispensable record, for now and posterity, that would aid in understanding this complex issue in an unbiased, palatable, and just manner. The same holds true for the Manipur story, and many more issues. Historians and scholars will refer to these recordings with deference as the intellectual and journalistic treasures they are.
If someone is pro Israeli, pro Hamas, pro PA, pro NSF, pro Dahlan, pro Fatah, pro Marwan, pro Mustafa or pro Fatah . . . this set of interviews are among the best ever assembled. This is a treasure for anyone, no matter what country someone is from. Karam Thapar's ability to understand, synthesize and explain are extraordinary. PM Modi should ask Karan Thapar to be one of the leaders within PM Modi's cabinet.
Yeah I agree, he’s really well prepared, with excellent questions and a critical cast of mind. I only wish he had a decent microphone, as it sounds like he’s yelling in a room with a deep echo.😅
I was pro Israel until I saw several documentaries, reports, data and realize that it is an apartheid state which is conducting genocide since it's formation. What hamas was not justifiable but completely explainable, predictable and avoidable.
brother i swear this is the same story of all of us, my father went to Europe to study in 1964, then he could get back after 1967, ! in 1992 he tried hardly to get visa just to visit his parents as his father was dyeing and they refused we are still displaced
You've been brainwashed. What are the prospects of Jews in the neighbouring intolerant countries? How many are left there? At least, Israel is a democratic country where Muslims achieve high posts (including in the parliament).
And I was pro-arabic (as I was born in USSR, where arabs were always good and Israel was always evil), but then read a number of books and decided that Israel is right at 90%. And after the last hamas attack - at 99%.
Have been watching and raising my concern for Palestine for decades. Hamas came up in late 1980s, only because Yasser Arafat's PLO couldn't eke out a solution by signing peace accords. Before Hamas got organized, Israel had innumerable other excuses to ravage Palestine. They bulldozed Palestinian houses to build illegal settlements, and when youngsters, whose houses were razed, pelted stones on the tanks and bulldozers, Israel deemed it fit to bomb Gaza to punish the Palestinians who opposed the destruction of their own houses on their ancestral land. Even when there was Gazans were not throwing stones, Israel just used to declare that in some or the other multi-storied building a Hamas operative was living. And this was enough to bomb innocent Palestinians. This 2023 Hamas attack is the first serious attack on Israel. But have seen continuous annihilating of Palestine by Israel for decades. And almost every time they attack Gaza, they shower Gaza with white phosphorus, destroy electricity, water systems etc. Israel has made Gaza an open prison where nothing could enter without the permission of Israel. Haven't seen bigger injustice being done to a people for 76 years. Just imagine there are 76-year-olds in Gaza who have never seen a normal life.
I've had a lot of respect for Karan Thapar over the last few years, but he has completely surpassed himself these last couple of weeks (as well as over Manipur). His choice of guests is exemplary and his intelligent and humane questioning has been brilliant - this is a harrowing time and to be able to learn from intelligent calm discussion makes all the difference. Thank you.
Hats off to you Karan Thapar. What a combination it was - Prof Rashid Khalidi's erudition, articulation and candour matched with your outstanding journalism. An interview to marvel at, share and archive. Thanks a zillion for the fearlessness and sincerity. Regards M
💔Many a time the gentleman could hardly hold His emotions in. The pain of displaced and dispossessed people is incomprehensible. May Allah swt grant that Palestine come back to the Palestinians. Whole of it in its entirety.
More and more i listened to these discussions courtesy Karan my respect and awe for the Mahatma increases. His unique way of leading our freedom struggle against the colonial west using Non cooperstion and Non violence was amazing. Resisting all calls for violent action agaisnt the colonial rule gives us as a country the moral fortitude to question these colonial westren powers even to thia day. Dont get distracted by the mindless propaganda of the Rifht against Gandhi. No matter what they do to drum up the terrorists like Godse the current narrstive of the west against Plaestine people should be an eye opener for us. Remember churchill called the Mahatma as terrorist as well eventhough the Mahatma didnt fire a sibgle bullet during our freedom struggle. The vile colonial powers systematically has olayed this game of resistence as terrorism to thier own ends. Salute once again to the Mahatma for shwoing us the way and giving us Moral fortitude in these tough times. Please spread this message.
Not long before his death the Palestinian author and thinker, the most astute and balanced of them all, Edward Said said as a mild cautionary note, " Hamas is the Islamitic face of the Palestinians and probably more beholden to their Gulf Arab backers than their own people". Prophetic oracle.
Congratulations Mr. Karan Thapar for conducting such a commendable interview of Prof Khalidi. Your own very impartial and truthful insight on the situation in Gaza in its historic perspective, itself speaks of your true believe in humanity and its values. Thank you, Sir, for all the great work which you are doing. Pease keep it up.
Mr. Karan Tapar is a real manifestaion of independent journalism. I, Gohar Ali Khan ( professor in English) am special fan of Karan Tapar, though he is a Hindu and I 'm a Muslim, from top to toe, even then I adore him because is transparently impartial person and a good human being.
I've nothing to say but hear and learn. But I want to say, Lade Lade maaf kao, Gandhiji ko yaad karo. And nobody will listen. Great interview by Karan Thapar. The professor had good knowledge of the region's history.
" What is truth?" Pilate didn't wait for answer. "Truth" is a metaphysical subject. Ironically scientists, historians.. keep using this word. "War of the Jews" by Titus Flavius Josephus (37-100 AD) was an eye opener for me.
Most of the politicians bear guilt feelings. When India was partitioned a lot of the political leaders did things that they might have felt guilty about later, Jinnah, etc and the politics of Kashmir. But we should be able to put that behind except for historical reference and move on. The present leaders should not dwell too too much on what past leaderships of previous presidents of US and UK.
The present leaders of neither party directly involved in this conflict are dwelling on the past. It's not a past historical conflict, it's an ongoing one. One party wants the other to not exist completely in their own motherland and the other party refuses to comply. Both parties are currently pursuing their respective goals. Until one of the parties stops pursuing their goal or one of them succeeds completely or both come to a comprehensive compromise solution, it won't become history, so that they can _"put it behind except for historical reference only and move on."_
Scintillating interview of Prof. Rashid Khalidi. I really liked it. Hope to see him again. Though I felt little disappointed to know that younger Palestinians are in favour of armed resistance rather than peaceful and non- violent methods. Can't believe Gandhian methods can fail to yield result( especially in this case) With growing US presence in West Asia and growing interest of China, Russia in this region war seems imminent. I am quite aware of the misbehaviour of Israeli authorities towards Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank. Few amature foreign traveller's ( including one from India) have well documented these atrocities and stringent discriminatory practices unfeignedly in their travel vlogs . I happened to see one of these traveller's account about Hebron, west Bank, Jerusalem, Bethlehem etc and felt sorry for them.
I would tell Karan Thapar that I don't think Hamas would have allowed free and fair polls in Gaza soon precisely because Hamas has seen recent polls and know they would lose.
Karan Thappar has maintained his standards, while bringing in the information as,it is with minimum partiality personal thought influences, God may continue it's,blessings on him and his family.
That way history started for the Jewish people when they were driven out of their homeland centuries ago in ths same way as history didn't start for the Hindus with the Muslim invasions of Hindustan.
Fantastic series of interviews, hopefully to show the palestinian side. Unfortunately this will be seen only by the regulars of The Wire, unless these are shared by the viewers.
Sir,almost everybody knows the historical aspects of creation of Israel and palestian people subsequent to the creation. But what is the way forward,as victimhood and injustice are not sufficient to right the wrongs. World history is full of such wrongs and injustices on all sides of contestants.
Excellent interview. Where Arafat failed after joining with Saddam, Hamas is failing after joining with Iran. Palestine has to give up resistance and join Israel to coexist amongst each other. Iran resistance is winning, not Palestine.
Why on earth, PM Modi of India has sided with Israel? It must be due to the fact that he is an anti Muslim character. Hence he will side with the occupying regime of Israel against Muslims. He was the First Minister of Gujarat State when the ancient Barbary Mosque was destroyed in that State. It was the opposite when the Gandhi party ruled India and was a founding member of Non-Allied Movement.
2/07/2023 - Israel is currently holding over 1,100 Palestinians without trial or charge, the highest figure since 2003, an Israeli rights group said. THIS CONTEXT 2?!
You'd think by now people would see that when people live in no hope(read Palestinians, many indigenous people around the world, etc then it makes sense people will do extreme things
Karan. why the Hamas not releasing the hostages thus exacerbating suffering of their people? Please ask this question squarely to the ones who are supporters of Hamas.
Because Hamas has very few weapons compared to the U.S. supported IDF. Israel is holding 10,000 Palestinians, many of this youngsters in jail without trial.
The Palestinians have the right of resistance only by not violent means. They have a choice to mutual recognition but refuse it because their real belive is to free all Palestine "from the river to the the sea " .But they went to the brutal way and Israel had no choice but react .
Other than this interview, I can't find any videos on this channel that covers the attacks on 7 October. Seems a lot of content comes after Israel started their airstrikes.
If the leading Arab nations condemn Hamas, I will. If not, I won't. If the Arab nations around get sympathetic, open their borders and come out with humanitarian assistance and accommodation for the Palestinians, I too will. Else, I won't. I think the best thing to do is to take cue from the Arabs, Because you and me can never know the Palestinians and the Hamas like their own brother arabs can. I read that the UAE condemned the Hamas. I know Egypt isn't opening up. Turkey and Iran don't count, because they have their own game going. Iran isn't even Shia. Why should I, as an Indian, cry for the Palestinians and declare that the Hamas isn't a terrorist organization like Erdogan did? I choose Israel, because a friend in need is a friend indeed, and Israel helped us during Kargil War. And it is our second biggest weapons supplier too. We are for the two nation solution. We support an independent Palestine. But sorry, we can't support the people of Gaza right now, because the organization they elected as their representative has just carried out a shockingly inhumane terrorist attack. India's stated position is We strongly condemn terrorism. Everything can come later.
I'm often surprised by how little Karan chooses to challenge ideas in these interviews. It feels more like a podium for each guest to spout whatever narrative they believe, rather than discuss facts on the ground. It's a shame as I appreciate his deep empathy for each of his guests.
Why can't Israel,'s position be pre 1948 in Palestine. Jews be asked to go to countries from where they came to Palestine. Or else USA or Canada can take all Jews to make independent Israel.😮
So history started in 1948! Isn't it a too convenient argument? When Israel was invaded and enslaved in 7th century by Umar, was there any Palestine state inside Israel? If a religious group is sanctioned for extermination explicitly by the scripture of another religious group, the former has all rights for their survival and to do everything possible for the preservation of their sacred land of faith. There were no instance in the history where the Jews invaded another country. The same is however could not be said about some other religious groups. History is replete with too many instances of enslavement and extermination. Look at what happened to Zoroastrians and their country of several millennia heritage. So if the productive world is smelling coffee, one can't fault them.
We don’t know whether prevention of entry of Jews in US and UK during the Second World War time was right or wrong given the circumstances of the time BUT IT CERTAINLY DOES NOT JUSTIFY WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW. The scenario during the world war was that Israel was stateless so the political system might have been uncertain as to how to deal with Jews. My question is, why were the Palestinians so underdeveloped before Israel was born in 1948? Before Israel was born Palestine could have been a developed nation if they really wanted to develop and grow. Israel, without any base territory, developed what was given to them. HOW DO PALESTINIANS LAY CLAIM ON WHAT ISRAEL BUILT, DEVELOPED AND PROGRESSED? Of course Israel would want to protect what they created from unworthy people who didn’t care to progress from the outset. During the same time that Israel grew in stature, Palestinians could have grown parallely. Why was Israel progressing at a faster speed than Palestine that was an older country?
Hello Mr Karan Thapar, have you tried to think the same about Kashmiri’s in Kashmir?? U always seem to support the Muslims cause.., though they adopt violence.
Can you justify Israel killing 50 times the Palestinians compared to Jews during its Illegal occupation Illegal displacement Illegal settlements Illegal apartheid Illegal killings Illegal collective punishment ? Take all the time you need …
What did the Palestinians do before Israel was born? They had everything that was there. Israel became a great nation because of their commitment to progress. It took them decades to build. Palestinians could have progressed before Israel was born. Palestinians could have developed while Israel was developing. But the vision and missions of Israel and Palestine were different. Each chose their path. Israel won the race of progress because of their hard work. Thereafter the polity of both changed
Thank you for bringing in such important conversations in, maybe Kangana Raut should read history and listen to this exchange before gushing with enthusiasm on her support to the Israeli ambassador to India....
I recommend looking into Israeli & Jewish scholars who have come out _against_ Zionism. Professors Illan Pappé, Noam Chomsky, & Dr Gabor Mate. There are numerous interviews available here. Also people like Gideon Levy & Norman Finkelstein. What they have to say will shock you.
We are free people. We are free to choose. There is enough scholarship out there that might compel one to take the stand she took. If you are a true liberal, you should allow people to form and express their opinions which might be different from yours. How can you insinuate that someone so accomplished as Kangana Ranaut is an ignoramus? Let me assure you that there is enough scholarship out there that totally justifies the intellectual and moral stand she has taken. Who are you, may I ask, to disapprove of her?
@@user-rg7jt4xp9y Is Kangna a SCHOLAR in Middle-East History too? People thought she has a Ph. D. in Indian History.....when she said....... India gained INDEPENDENCE IN 2014!!! That woman is so accomplished!!!! Amazing. btw... .2 + 2 = 4 is NOT an opinion....but a fact. Also.... 2 + 2 = 3 is neither an opinion nor a FACT. It is IGNORANCE!!!!
@@user-rg7jt4xp9y So is he. So is he. There is more than enough scholarship out there that might compel one to take the stand *he* (assuming the original commenter is a "he") took. The same can be said about you too. He is free too to choose and form and express an opinion, including *_an opinion_* on somebody else's opinion. That's exactly what he did here. Nothing more, nothing less. If you are a true liberal, you should allow people to form and express their opinions which might be different from yours *_or others._* How can you insinuate that, _he is _*_NOT_*_ ALLOWING people to form and express their opinions which might be different from his?_ He merely expressed *_his_* views / opinions on somebody else's opinions - which he is perfectly entitled to do. He did *NOT* prevent or obstruct (or even proposed any) her from expressing her opinions. Clearly you are misspeaking here by misrepresenting his views/statement. Let me assure you that there is more than enough scholarship out there that totally justifies the intellectual and moral stand he has taken. Who are you, may I ask, to disapprove of him?
@@shantabalu You don't need to be a scholar to gain sufficient knowledge and form an opinion on a subject. You just need to be curious, intelligent and open-minded; listen to both the sides and take a stand based on Dharma, not based on ideological inclinations. Kangana is a free thinker and is more than capable of forming legitimate opinions and boldly expressing them, no faqs given. That, I can assure you.
Call me naive, but what Hamas was thinking that their act of barbaric butchery would not be avenged by robust Israeli retribution? Did it advance the cause of the good people in Gaza one little bit? The butchery on 7/10 was indeed a new low in history. It would be dishonest not to call it inhuman. Palestinian scholars' post-mortem of the massacre on 7/10 is an explanation but cannot be an excuse for their heinous acts.
Where's the world effort to restore Palestinians rights and justice before Hamas attack? Nothing. World prefer Palestinians to keep quiet and endure oppression.
Then what did you expect the Palestine to do? To keep on taking the 'barbaric' aggression of the Israelite throughout their life without even showing their spine once?
Very one-sided view. Nearly every point is very questionable (e.g. number of refugees and reasons why they become refugees). And no arguments of the other side is mentioned - e.g. jews expelled from arab countries (in the time of peace, not running away of war). I would say, that the israel's point of view on many questions sounds much more logical. And, IMHO, the moral qualities of anyone who puts an equal sign between deliberate killing of civilians and military casualties is more than questionable.
The Jews found refuge in Arabs states when they were kicked out of Spain and Italy. You have to wonder why the Jews keep being kicked out over and over . Is there something wrong with them that no one wants them anywhere ?
Just what has happened with the Taliban,taking over the governance of Afghanistan. Coming into mainstream occupation of the country and transforming it into a highly islamised state. Extreme occupation, I would say.
Good question by Karan. How credible is Khalid’s claim that Israel helped build Hamas in the initial stage. Rashid is unable to back it up by factual occurrences.
Direct quote of Netanyahu: “Those who want to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state should support the strengthening of Hamas and the transfer of money to Hamas,” he stated at a Likud party meeting in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy, to differentiate between the Palestinians in Gaza and the Palestinians in Judea and Samaria.”
@loretoanthony6464 The quote from Netanyahu and other information about this has been all over the news. It's surprising anyone could miss it. Perhaps some people need to pay more attention.
@@jacqdanieles Perhaps they didn’t think Hamas would create terrorism. It was hoped that Hamas would improve the lives of Palestinians. However hamas made no provision for civilians safety while they plotted the attacks. They surely knew that there would be retaliation
@@loretoanthony Netanyahu made these statements *while Hamas was designated a terrorist organization.* First you denied the claim made in the interview. Then when it's proven, you try to justify the actions. There's no rational argument to be held with zionists apologists .
Who stifled their economy? The Hamas militants along with much of the other people therein and focused on building the militant organisation instead of building a beautiful country. The Palestinians of Gaza even had work permits to work and move around in Israel but they instead planned and put in place whatever they needed for the strike iron Israel civilians.
Gaza is an open air prison. The land, sea, & air access is controlled by Israel. Food, water, electricity, & medical supplies are controlled by Israel. It is a known fact that Israel calculated the minimum caloric requirements & restricted the entry of food supplies to those bare minimums. When you herd a population of 2.2 million into a concentration camp, you expect it to become a viable economy?
We have our personal opinions and they are not based on what is said by which country. Our opinions are based on what we are seeing, listening and applying our minds. I choose to stand with Israel. I have not seen or heard of any statements of purpose by Hamas, their actions are appalling when they prevent civilians from moving to safe zones, Also the absence of any planned protection of civilians prior to and post launch of the operations.
Or Israel could stop bombing and committing genocide than moving 2 million people from their homes. Moving civilians out of Gaza plays into the hands of the Israelis. Once they're removed, they will not be allowed to return, thereby conveniently achieving ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. Dangerous though it may be, it is their land, and they have the right to be there.
Karan, You love doing one-side programs on Gaza all the time, so I suggest you move there. Indians won't miss you and Gaza could fix your spine for sure.
The more accurate analogy was that the Godhra train burning, like the Hamas attack, were brutal terrorist attacks. But Modi and Israel took a terrorist attack and turned it into an excuse for genocide.
If Godhra train burning indeed was a terrorist attack.. it was a heinous crime nonetheless.. what fascinates me that Gujarat police never could prove that it was a terrorist attack. People say it was a conspiracy. Anyways Do you think ethnic cleansing is an effective response of a terrorist attack?
Hamas's actions are not justifiable at all. They are a terrorist group. But nation-states do not respond to terrorism with genocide. France had deadly terror attacks, especially in 2015. It did not respond by bombing 7000 people to their deaths in 10 days. We have faced countless terrorist attacks as Indians. We don't respond by aerially bombing Srinagar or stopping food, water, medicine and electricity to Kashmir. Civilised democracies respond to terrorism by sending in special forces to fight the terrorists while trying to co-opt the civilian population of the place. Basically what we are doing after Pulwama. Fight the terrorists, neutralise them, but don't bomb Kashmir mercilessly from the air and drop 6000 bombs per day calling it counterterrorism.@@Anp562
PAST PROPOSALS TO THE SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM HAS been rejected and FAILED: THE ONLY SOLUTION IS TO REMOVE BOTH the Palestinians and JEWS from that area. UN run it with a fresh start and let both parties make up their mind what they want to do while they live out side that AREA. UN FORCES TAKE TOTAL CONTROL OF THAT AREA, and let both parties fight their claims away from that area. Each party may live with their supporters. JEWS live in USA/Europe and Palestinians go to Jordan, Egypt etc., (whoever accepts them). UN THEN NEEDS TO MEDIATE THE DEAL WITHOUT ANT OUTSIDE INFLUENCE. LOOK AT HISTORICAL BACKGROUND and LEGITMATE RIGHTS of each party and let A COMMITTEE set up by UN make a plan and enforce it strictly. Any party not obeying the committee decision should be punished and kept away from the area. Once they agree to the rules and terms of the UN committee they start moving back either in a SINGLE COMMON TERRITORY or separate territories. UN LEAVES THEN on satisfactory acceptance by both parties.
All of Mr. Thapar's interviews on this subject should be compiled, and curated. These interviews, in themselves, are an indispensable record, for now and posterity, that would aid in understanding this complex issue in an unbiased, palatable, and just manner. The same holds true for the Manipur story, and many more issues. Historians and scholars will refer to these recordings with deference as the intellectual and journalistic treasures they are.
If someone is pro Israeli, pro Hamas, pro PA, pro NSF, pro Dahlan, pro Fatah, pro Marwan, pro Mustafa or pro Fatah . . . this set of interviews are among the best ever assembled. This is a treasure for anyone, no matter what country someone is from.
Karam Thapar's ability to understand, synthesize and explain are extraordinary. PM Modi should ask Karan Thapar to be one of the leaders within PM Modi's cabinet.
Yeah I agree, he’s really well prepared, with excellent questions and a critical cast of mind. I only wish he had a decent microphone, as it sounds like he’s yelling in a room with a deep echo.😅
I’m fan of Karan’s work. Over the past few days he’s done a commendable job of bringing myriad of insights from the range of scholars.
Another fabulous interview, Mr. Thapar. Indeed, all your interviews on this topic are essential. Thank you ever so much.
Great insight by Professor Rashid. Very eloquent.
I was pro Israel until I saw several documentaries, reports, data and realize that it is an apartheid state which is conducting genocide since it's formation. What hamas was not justifiable but completely explainable, predictable and avoidable.
brother i swear this is the same story of all of us, my father went to Europe to study in 1964, then he could get back after 1967, !
in 1992 he tried hardly to get visa just to visit his parents as his father was dyeing and they refused
we are still displaced
You've been brainwashed. What are the prospects of Jews in the neighbouring intolerant countries? How many are left there? At least, Israel is a democratic country where Muslims achieve high posts (including in the parliament).
And I was pro-arabic (as I was born in USSR, where arabs were always good and Israel was always evil), but then read a number of books and decided that Israel is right at 90%. And after the last hamas attack - at 99%.
Have been watching and raising my concern for Palestine for decades.
Hamas came up in late 1980s, only because Yasser Arafat's PLO couldn't eke out a solution by signing peace accords.
Before Hamas got organized, Israel had innumerable other excuses to ravage Palestine.
They bulldozed Palestinian houses to build illegal settlements, and when youngsters, whose houses were razed, pelted stones on the tanks and bulldozers, Israel deemed it fit to bomb Gaza to punish the Palestinians who opposed the destruction of their own houses on their ancestral land.
Even when there was Gazans were not throwing stones, Israel just used to declare that in some or the other multi-storied building a Hamas operative was living.
And this was enough to bomb innocent Palestinians.
This 2023 Hamas attack is the first serious attack on Israel.
But have seen continuous annihilating of Palestine by Israel for decades.
And almost every time they attack Gaza, they shower Gaza with white phosphorus, destroy electricity, water systems etc.
Israel has made Gaza an open prison where nothing could enter without the permission of Israel.
Haven't seen bigger injustice being done to a people for 76 years.
Just imagine there are 76-year-olds in Gaza who have never seen a normal life.
@@omarkhalaf1379if we people know or not they are victim..they are holocaust souivoro
Some people afraid of cat being comes out of bag from your programs. Always the true Strength of TRUTH is TRUTH itself. Keep it up Karen 👍
Well said. Karen indeed.
I've had a lot of respect for Karan Thapar over the last few years, but he has completely surpassed himself these last couple of weeks (as well as over Manipur). His choice of guests is exemplary and his intelligent and humane questioning has been brilliant - this is a harrowing time and to be able to learn from intelligent calm discussion makes all the difference. Thank you.
Hats off to you Karan Thapar. What a combination it was - Prof Rashid Khalidi's erudition, articulation and candour matched with your outstanding journalism. An interview to marvel at, share and archive.
Thanks a zillion for the fearlessness and sincerity. Regards M
💔Many a time the gentleman could hardly hold His emotions in. The pain of displaced and dispossessed people is incomprehensible. May Allah swt grant that Palestine come back to the Palestinians. Whole of it in its entirety.
that would involve mass murder of israeli jews? I hope you are not serious.
Glad you're doing this, Karan. I believe India is on the wrong side of history in this, but had no choice because of its own record.
Great guest and great questions.
Prof. Rashid Khalidi. what a Man... Thank you Karan... for asking for asking objective questions...
More and more i listened to these discussions courtesy Karan my respect and awe for the Mahatma increases. His unique way of leading our freedom struggle against the colonial west using Non cooperstion and Non violence was amazing. Resisting all calls for violent action agaisnt the colonial rule gives us as a country the moral fortitude to question these colonial westren powers even to thia day. Dont get distracted by the mindless propaganda of the Rifht against Gandhi. No matter what they do to drum up the terrorists like Godse the current narrstive of the west against Plaestine people should be an eye opener for us. Remember churchill called the Mahatma as terrorist as well eventhough the Mahatma didnt fire a sibgle bullet during our freedom struggle. The vile colonial powers systematically has olayed this game of resistence as terrorism to thier own ends. Salute once again to the Mahatma for shwoing us the way and giving us Moral fortitude in these tough times. Please spread this message.
Not long before his death the Palestinian author and thinker, the most astute and balanced of them all, Edward Said said as a mild cautionary note, " Hamas is the Islamitic face of the Palestinians and probably more beholden to their Gulf Arab backers than their own people". Prophetic oracle.
Thank you Mr. Karan Thapar for having Prof. Khalidi.
Congratulations Mr. Karan Thapar for conducting such a commendable interview of Prof Khalidi. Your own very impartial and truthful insight on the situation in Gaza in its historic perspective, itself speaks of your true believe in humanity and its values. Thank you, Sir, for all the great work which you are doing. Pease keep it up.
Mr. Karan Tapar is a real manifestaion of independent journalism. I, Gohar Ali Khan ( professor in English) am special fan of Karan Tapar, though he is a Hindu and I 'm a Muslim, from top to toe, even then I adore him because is transparently impartial person and a good human being.
What has this to do with him being hindu huh? You don't respect Hindus or something
I've nothing to say but hear and learn. But I want to say, Lade Lade maaf kao, Gandhiji ko yaad karo. And nobody will listen. Great interview by Karan Thapar. The professor had good knowledge of the region's history.
A revolutionary and boldest statement by Guiterrez। who could be his "sponsor" ? He shifted 180 degrees .very intriguing and startling.
Excellent reporting sir g
M. Thapar, I am so happy that you interviewed M. Khalidi. Thank you!
" What is truth?" Pilate didn't wait for answer. "Truth" is a metaphysical subject. Ironically scientists, historians.. keep using this word. "War of the Jews" by Titus Flavius Josephus (37-100 AD) was an eye opener for me.
Rashid Khalidi.. I read his book "the Hundred Years War on Palestine"
Great sirji God bless you and your family and friends 🙏 ❤️ and wish you all the best 👍 👌 Jai hind bhai 🙏 ❤️ 👍 👌 Allah hafiz
Most of the politicians bear guilt feelings.
When India was partitioned a lot of the political leaders did things that they might have felt guilty about later, Jinnah, etc and the politics of Kashmir.
But we should be able to put that behind except for historical reference and move on.
The present leaders should not dwell too too much on what past leaderships of previous presidents of US and UK.
Absolutely right.
The present leaders of neither party directly involved in this conflict are dwelling on the past. It's not a past historical conflict, it's an ongoing one. One party wants the other to not exist completely in their own motherland and the other party refuses to comply. Both parties are currently pursuing their respective goals. Until one of the parties stops pursuing their goal or one of them succeeds completely or both come to a comprehensive compromise solution, it won't become history, so that they can _"put it behind except for historical reference only and move on."_
Thank you for this interview.
The best and most informative discussion so far on the current crisis. Deep unbiased analysis.
Great interview
Good Journalism. Thanks Karan sir. Jay Maharashtra. Jay Marathi.
Excellent discussion
Scintillating interview of Prof. Rashid Khalidi. I really liked it. Hope to see him again. Though I felt little disappointed to know that younger Palestinians are in favour of armed resistance rather than peaceful and non- violent methods. Can't believe Gandhian methods can fail to yield result( especially in this case)
With growing US presence in West Asia and growing interest of China, Russia in this region war seems imminent.
I am quite aware of the misbehaviour of Israeli authorities towards Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank. Few amature foreign traveller's ( including one from India) have well documented these atrocities and stringent discriminatory practices unfeignedly in their travel vlogs .
I happened to see one of these traveller's account about Hebron, west Bank, Jerusalem, Bethlehem etc and felt sorry for them.
Karans Kurated & Kulled interviews in the subject of Palestine and Israeli apartheid are par excellence
The same things happen around the world. Bilateral
negotiations depend on the two sides.
I would tell Karan Thapar that I don't think Hamas would have allowed free and fair polls in Gaza soon precisely because Hamas has seen recent polls and know they would lose.
Karan Thappar has maintained his standards, while bringing in the information as,it is with minimum partiality personal thought influences, God may continue it's,blessings on him and his family.
That way history started for the Jewish people when they were driven out of their homeland centuries ago in ths same way as history didn't start for the Hindus with the Muslim invasions of Hindustan.
When the Jews were expelled from Spain and Italy, they found refuge in Arab nations
Every micro detail of this interview is apposite and thought provoking
Fabulous work
So much insight into history of Palestin & Israel conflict. Great conversation.
Fantastic series of interviews, hopefully to show the palestinian side. Unfortunately this will be seen only by the regulars of The Wire, unless these are shared by the viewers.
Sir,almost everybody knows the historical aspects of creation of Israel and palestian people subsequent to the creation. But what is the way forward,as victimhood and
injustice are not sufficient to right the wrongs. World history is full of such wrongs and injustices on all sides of contestants.
NIce interview. Can you pls add captions?
Even Canadian prime minister at the time called mcanzie king when asked how many Jew Canada can take ofter World War Two he replied non is to many
In US too. You not allowed to refuse to buy Israeli products.
Excellent interview. Where Arafat failed after joining with Saddam, Hamas is failing after joining with Iran. Palestine has to give up resistance and join Israel to coexist amongst each other. Iran resistance is winning, not Palestine.
Why on earth, PM Modi of India has sided with Israel? It must be due to the fact that he is an anti Muslim character. Hence he will side with the occupying regime of Israel against Muslims. He was the First Minister of Gujarat State when the ancient Barbary Mosque was destroyed in that State. It was the opposite when the Gandhi party ruled India and was a founding member of Non-Allied Movement.
Because world leaders are terrified of Jewish money power
😂😂Lol which country are you from if you can't know basic facts about India lmao
Love your commitment
West only focusses on What Happened. West doesnt want to discuss Why it Happened....
2/07/2023 - Israel is currently holding over 1,100 Palestinians without trial or charge, the highest figure since 2003, an Israeli rights group said. THIS CONTEXT 2?!
You'd think by now people would see that when people live in no hope(read Palestinians, many indigenous people around the world, etc then it makes sense people will do extreme things
Karan. why the Hamas not releasing the hostages thus exacerbating suffering of their people? Please ask this question squarely to the ones who are supporters of Hamas.
Because Hamas has very few weapons compared to the U.S. supported IDF.
Israel is holding 10,000 Palestinians, many of this youngsters in jail without trial.
@@jacobjorgenson9285did you convert to Islam
👍👍👍👍👍dosti Bane rahe karan
The Palestinians have the right of resistance only by not violent means. They have a choice to mutual recognition but refuse it because their real belive is to free all Palestine "from the river to the the sea " .But they went to the brutal way and Israel had no choice but react .
First what to start.Identify common factor.
Other than this interview, I can't find any videos on this channel that covers the attacks on 7 October. Seems a lot of content comes after Israel started their airstrikes.
Has he condemned the terrorists?
Free Palestine
Palestine have the right to defend themselves.
If the leading Arab nations condemn Hamas, I will.
If not, I won't.
If the Arab nations around get sympathetic, open their borders and come out with humanitarian assistance and accommodation for the Palestinians, I too will.
Else, I won't.
I think the best thing to do is to take cue from the Arabs,
Because you and me can never know the Palestinians and the Hamas like their own brother arabs can.
I read that the UAE condemned the Hamas. I know Egypt isn't opening up.
Turkey and Iran don't count, because they have their own game going. Iran isn't even Shia.
Why should I, as an Indian, cry for the Palestinians and declare that the Hamas isn't a terrorist organization like Erdogan did?
I choose Israel, because a friend in need is a friend indeed, and Israel helped us during Kargil War. And it is our second biggest weapons supplier too.
We are for the two nation solution. We support an independent Palestine.
But sorry, we can't support the people of Gaza right now, because the organization they elected as their representative has just carried out a shockingly inhumane terrorist attack.
India's stated position is
We strongly condemn terrorism.
Everything can come later.
Where on earth do people have walls around them. Israel managed to put walls around people and the world did nothing.
Hamas never change his charter .
I'm often surprised by how little Karan chooses to challenge ideas in these interviews. It feels more like a podium for each guest to spout whatever narrative they believe, rather than discuss facts on the ground. It's a shame as I appreciate his deep empathy for each of his guests.
Does an illegal occupier have the right to "defend itself" when it is an occupier for 57 years?
More importantly, does an occupied people have the right to defend themselves ?
What is the purpose of Hezbullah? Their purpose is similar but different targets.
Does the UN support such organisations?
Why can't Israel,'s position be pre 1948 in Palestine. Jews be asked to go to countries from where they came to Palestine.
Or else USA or Canada can take all Jews to make independent Israel.😮
WHAT ABOUT THE GUILT OF HAMAS IN THE CURRENT CONFLICT?
If you make peaceful Revolution impossible, you make violent Revolution inevitable
So history started in 1948! Isn't it a too convenient argument? When Israel was invaded and enslaved in 7th century by Umar, was there any Palestine state inside Israel? If a religious group is sanctioned for extermination explicitly by the scripture of another religious group, the former has all rights for their survival and to do everything possible for the preservation of their sacred land of faith. There were no instance in the history where the Jews invaded another country. The same is however could not be said about some other religious groups. History is replete with too many instances of enslavement and extermination. Look at what happened to Zoroastrians and their country of several millennia heritage. So if the productive world is smelling coffee, one can't fault them.
Accute shortage of HOOR in JANNAT 😅😂
We don’t know whether prevention of entry of Jews in US and UK during the Second World War time was right or wrong given the circumstances of the time BUT IT CERTAINLY DOES NOT JUSTIFY WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW.
The scenario during the world war was that Israel was stateless so the political system might have been uncertain as to how to deal with Jews.
My question is, why were the Palestinians so underdeveloped before Israel was born in 1948?
Before Israel was born Palestine could have been a developed nation if they really wanted to develop and grow.
Israel, without any base territory, developed what was given to them.
HOW DO PALESTINIANS LAY CLAIM ON WHAT ISRAEL BUILT, DEVELOPED AND PROGRESSED?
Of course Israel would want to protect what they created from unworthy people who didn’t care to progress from the outset.
During the same time that Israel grew in stature, Palestinians could have grown parallely. Why was Israel progressing at a faster speed than Palestine that was an older country?
How many billions of American aid & Gernan reparations went to, & continues to go to Israel to build the country?
Hello Mr Karan Thapar, have you tried to think the same about Kashmiri’s in Kashmir?? U always seem to support the Muslims cause.., though they adopt violence.
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Why do you want to look into history of 75 yrs why not 1700 yrs. Nothing can justify Hamas attack & Israel right to exist on earth.
Why the he'll did jews ran leaving their home land 1700 years ago why not they are fighting since 1700 yrs cowards 😂😂😂
It's not justification it's an explanation why it happened.
The Devine right. So God now works as a real state agent 😂
Can you justify Israel killing 50 times the Palestinians compared to Jews during its
Illegal occupation
Illegal displacement
Illegal settlements
Illegal apartheid
Illegal killings
Illegal collective punishment ?
Take all the time you need …
@@exposed5869because Jews are always beenkicked out where they live, and you have to wonder why ?
FREE palestine Sea to river and Land
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Charan thappad is rakhi brother of benazir bhutto.
Netanyahu Wants to Stay in Power
Even I think the same as what Israel is saying
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What did the Palestinians do before Israel was born? They had everything that was there.
Israel became a great nation because of their commitment to progress. It took them decades to build.
Palestinians could have progressed before Israel was born. Palestinians could have developed while Israel was developing.
But the vision and missions of Israel and Palestine were different. Each chose their path. Israel won the race of progress because of their hard work.
Thereafter the polity of both changed
Colonial mindset. Should Britain have used this argument to justify holding on to their colonies?
Thank you for bringing in such important conversations in, maybe Kangana Raut should read history and listen to this exchange before gushing with enthusiasm on her support to the Israeli ambassador to India....
I recommend looking into Israeli & Jewish scholars who have come out _against_ Zionism. Professors Illan Pappé, Noam Chomsky, & Dr Gabor Mate. There are numerous interviews available here.
Also people like Gideon Levy & Norman Finkelstein.
What they have to say will shock you.
We are free people.
We are free to choose.
There is enough scholarship out there that might compel one to take the stand she took.
If you are a true liberal, you should allow people to form and express their opinions which might be different from yours.
How can you insinuate that someone so accomplished as Kangana Ranaut is an ignoramus? Let me assure you that there is enough scholarship out there that totally justifies the intellectual and moral stand she has taken. Who are you, may I ask, to disapprove of her?
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Is Kangna a SCHOLAR in Middle-East History too?
People thought she has a Ph. D. in Indian History.....when she said....... India gained INDEPENDENCE IN 2014!!!
That woman is so accomplished!!!! Amazing.
btw... .2 + 2 = 4 is NOT an opinion....but a fact.
Also.... 2 + 2 = 3 is neither an opinion nor a FACT. It is IGNORANCE!!!!
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So is he.
So is he.
There is more than enough scholarship out there that might compel one to take the stand *he* (assuming the original commenter is a "he") took.
The same can be said about you too. He is free too to choose and form and express an opinion, including *_an opinion_* on somebody else's opinion. That's exactly what he did here. Nothing more, nothing less.
If you are a true liberal, you should allow people to form and express their opinions which might be different from yours *_or others._*
How can you insinuate that, _he is _*_NOT_*_ ALLOWING people to form and express their opinions which might be different from his?_ He merely expressed *_his_* views / opinions on somebody else's opinions - which he is perfectly entitled to do. He did *NOT* prevent or obstruct (or even proposed any) her from expressing her opinions. Clearly you are misspeaking here by misrepresenting his views/statement. Let me assure you that there is more than enough scholarship out there that totally justifies the intellectual and moral stand he has taken. Who are you, may I ask, to disapprove of him?
@@shantabalu You don't need to be a scholar to gain sufficient knowledge and form an opinion on a subject. You just need to be curious, intelligent and open-minded; listen to both the sides and take a stand based on Dharma, not based on ideological inclinations.
Kangana is a free thinker and is more than capable of forming legitimate opinions and boldly expressing them, no faqs given. That, I can assure you.
Bogus media ,...Tata donated media.
FREE palestine juresalam is capital city of Palestine people
Call me naive, but what Hamas was thinking that their act of barbaric butchery would not be avenged by robust Israeli retribution? Did it advance the cause of the good people in Gaza one little bit? The butchery on 7/10 was indeed a new low in history. It would be dishonest not to call it inhuman. Palestinian scholars' post-mortem of the massacre on 7/10 is an explanation but cannot be an excuse for their heinous acts.
Where's the world effort to restore Palestinians rights and justice before Hamas attack? Nothing. World prefer Palestinians to keep quiet and endure oppression.
Then what did you expect the Palestine to do? To keep on taking the 'barbaric' aggression of the Israelite throughout their life without even showing their spine once?
Very one-sided view. Nearly every point is very questionable (e.g. number of refugees and reasons why they become refugees). And no arguments of the other side is mentioned - e.g. jews expelled from arab countries (in the time of peace, not running away of war). I would say, that the israel's point of view on many questions sounds much more logical.
And, IMHO, the moral qualities of anyone who puts an equal sign between deliberate killing of civilians and military casualties is more than questionable.
These premeditated, prejudiced interviews are utterly pathetic. A glaring example of how not to conduct an interview.
The Jews found refuge in Arabs states when they were kicked out of Spain and Italy. You have to wonder why the Jews keep being kicked out over and over . Is there something wrong with them that no one wants them anywhere ?
Just what has happened with the Taliban,taking over the governance of Afghanistan. Coming into mainstream occupation of the country and transforming it into a highly islamised state. Extreme occupation, I would say.
The Taliban are afghans
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Very correctly no two State solution is abstruse
Good question by Karan.
How credible is Khalid’s claim that Israel helped build Hamas in the initial stage.
Rashid is unable to back it up by factual occurrences.
Direct quote of Netanyahu: “Those who want to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state should support the strengthening of Hamas and the transfer of money to Hamas,” he stated at a Likud party meeting in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy, to differentiate between the Palestinians in Gaza and the Palestinians in Judea and Samaria.”
@loretoanthony6464 The quote from Netanyahu and other information about this has been all over the news. It's surprising anyone could miss it. Perhaps some people need to pay more attention.
Look up Norman Finklestein or Noam Cho sky in this
@@jacqdanieles Perhaps they didn’t think Hamas would create terrorism.
It was hoped that Hamas would improve the lives of Palestinians. However hamas made no provision for civilians safety while they plotted the attacks. They surely knew that there would be retaliation
@@loretoanthony Netanyahu made these statements *while Hamas was designated a terrorist organization.*
First you denied the claim made in the interview. Then when it's proven, you try to justify the actions.
There's no rational argument to be held with zionists apologists .
Who stifled their economy? The Hamas militants along with much of the other people therein and focused on building the militant organisation instead of building a beautiful country.
The Palestinians of Gaza even had work permits to work and move around in Israel but they instead planned and put in place whatever they needed for the strike iron Israel civilians.
Gaza is an open air prison. The land, sea, & air access is controlled by Israel. Food, water, electricity, & medical supplies are controlled by Israel. It is a known fact that Israel calculated the minimum caloric requirements & restricted the entry of food supplies to those bare minimums.
When you herd a population of 2.2 million into a concentration camp, you expect it to become a viable economy?
We have our personal opinions and they are not based on what is said by which country.
Our opinions are based on what we are seeing, listening and applying our minds.
I choose to stand with Israel.
I have not seen or heard of any statements of purpose by Hamas, their actions are appalling when they prevent civilians from moving to safe zones,
Also the absence of any planned protection of civilians prior to and post launch of the operations.
Or Israel could stop bombing and committing genocide than moving 2 million people from their homes. Moving civilians out of Gaza plays into the hands of the Israelis. Once they're removed, they will not be allowed to return, thereby conveniently achieving ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. Dangerous though it may be, it is their land, and they have the right to be there.
Karan, You love doing one-side programs on Gaza all the time, so I suggest you move there. Indians won't miss you and Gaza could fix your spine for sure.
You don't have to watch reality if it challenges your preconceived notions. Go watch the brainwashing of Wion.
“2002 Riots also didn’t happen in vacuum. Happened due to godhra train burning”
- said no librandu ever
The more accurate analogy was that the Godhra train burning, like the Hamas attack, were brutal terrorist attacks. But Modi and Israel took a terrorist attack and turned it into an excuse for genocide.
@@anshuecon And how do you expect them to react? If hamas's actions are justifiable, why aren't Israel's actions justifiable?
If Godhra train burning indeed was a terrorist attack.. it was a heinous crime nonetheless.. what fascinates me that Gujarat police never could prove that it was a terrorist attack. People say it was a conspiracy. Anyways Do you think ethnic cleansing is an effective response of a terrorist attack?
@@AnirimaGhosh Never could!? 31 people were convicted for the train burning..
Hamas's actions are not justifiable at all. They are a terrorist group. But nation-states do not respond to terrorism with genocide. France had deadly terror attacks, especially in 2015. It did not respond by bombing 7000 people to their deaths in 10 days. We have faced countless terrorist attacks as Indians. We don't respond by aerially bombing Srinagar or stopping food, water, medicine and electricity to Kashmir.
Civilised democracies respond to terrorism by sending in special forces to fight the terrorists while trying to co-opt the civilian population of the place. Basically what we are doing after Pulwama. Fight the terrorists, neutralise them, but don't bomb Kashmir mercilessly from the air and drop 6000 bombs per day calling it counterterrorism.@@Anp562
I think Rashid is giving misleading narratives.
I think you're a disinformation troll
A shame you have not and cannot argue ANY point he has made
@@jacobjorgenson9285 I have made numerous comments along, read them
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PAST PROPOSALS TO THE SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM HAS been rejected and FAILED: THE ONLY SOLUTION IS TO REMOVE BOTH the Palestinians and JEWS from that area. UN run it with a fresh start and let both parties make up their mind what they want to do while they live out side that AREA. UN FORCES TAKE TOTAL CONTROL OF THAT AREA, and let both parties fight their claims away from that area. Each party may live with their supporters. JEWS live in USA/Europe and Palestinians go to Jordan, Egypt etc., (whoever accepts them). UN THEN NEEDS TO MEDIATE THE DEAL WITHOUT ANT OUTSIDE INFLUENCE. LOOK AT HISTORICAL BACKGROUND and LEGITMATE RIGHTS of each party and let A COMMITTEE set up by UN make a plan and enforce it strictly. Any party not obeying the committee decision should be punished and kept away from the area. Once they agree to the rules and terms of the UN committee they start moving back either in a SINGLE COMMON TERRITORY or separate territories. UN LEAVES THEN on satisfactory acceptance by both parties.