Recently bought a Roland Jazz 40. After having a Vox AC 15, Fender Twin Reverb, Vibrolux, ect. If you want that glassy Fender sound just engage the clean about 1/4 of the way. The new distortion is nice. And you can also add sound, you can't add clean. It's either there or it isn't. Tired of the tube amps. You have to turn them up so loud to get tone you want that they just aren't practical. With the right solid state amp you can keep the volume down and still get a great tone.
Best clean tone I ever got with my Telecaster was through a Legend A60. Clear, full, and loud. Excellent with all the pedals I used. It's on my Why did I sell that? list, the same list that every guitar player has.
The Roland JC120 is definatly THE best clean amp ever made! I haven`t been able to play one yet, but hearing it on Metallica`s concert in Seattle 1989, and other places, it is the next amp on my list for sure !
Here's one that flew below the "clean sounding" radar back in its day: the Peavey Session. The Session was designed as a keyboardists and pedal steel guitarist's amp. It has 200 watts of clean RMS power. It is LOUD and won't break up at all. As a guitarist, I used a Session head in bands I played in back in the 80s. Since it wouldn't overdrive at all, I had a decent pedal for that purpose. As a clean amp it had a lot of body to its sound, and really did sound nice with my guitars.
I have a Twin Reverb RI and Roland JC120 which are both great clean, but the best clean sound I've heard is from a friend's Bassman '59 reissue manufactured around 1996.
I know that you could not possibly know of every great clean amp, but there is one you ought to know about, 1949-51 Gibson GA-50 and GA-50T with tremolo. At approximately 30 watts from 2 coke-bottle 6L6s it has one 12” and one 8” speaker. It’s brown and looks like an old suitcase. I have one and also a ‘65 Deluxe Reverb, a ‘64 AC-30, a 1999 Komet Fischer Trainwreck 60 and many more of those kinds of amps. The GA-50 simply kills every other clean amp I have ever heard. The great Jim Hall used one for a time and said that it gave him the absolutely the best tone he ever had. It takes pedals like a dream even though it was designed and built a decade and a half before pedals were invented. It can play quite loudly with lots of headroom and if turned way up will produce a creamy and powerfully harmonic overdrive. However, that is not the best way to use it. Set at a low level with pedals is the key. Not only does this preserve your hearing and your lease, it preserves the amp as well. Those late’40s speakers are incredibly good sounding and are very hard to impossible to replace or to repair. You must treat them gently. Check one out, they occasionally show up on Ebay and Reverb and there are UA-cam vids (for better or worse) of them as well.
I had an Epiphone Super Eight [4 Jensen 8"] with Hammond Reverb as my first amp back about 1964 or 65 can't fucking remember. Great 30 watt surf guitar amp and a real clean sound. Miss the old girl. Playing thru a Twin now. Love the Twin. It's ALIVE!
I have noticed with amps I have owned over the years that its not just the amp. Its also the pickups and guitars used to get nice clean tones. Not only that, a nice cabinet that has the right matching speaker setup to match the amp and guitars.
Also worth looking into is the Peavey Bandit 65 and the Peavey Backstage Chorus 208. Sweet clear clean tones that sound almost acoustic with single coil guitars.
One thing about Fenders is that a big part of the clean tone is the Jensens. Now, not all Fenders come with Jensens. Celestions have become very common. My issue with Celestions is that they can distort too much and I like transparent speakers. I think they give more headroom and clarity. This is why I love EVs so much as well.
Yeap, I've got one and was surprised he went with the SVT over a V4/VT22 guitar amps. Ironically the SVT preamp is based on the V4B head, just with 6550's instead of 7027A tubes, and more power tubes.
The older Fender black and silver faced twins are some of the best amps ever made. I'm also a fan of the silver and red striped Peavey Bandits, very loud and clean sound.
Four years ago, I couldn’t give away an old Peavey Bandit for anything less than about $80. All of a sudden people started RAVING about them to the point Peavey reissued the damn things. LOL
Music Man amps (the Solid State Preamp/Tube Power) and the Kustom HV100 (preamp tubes and Solid State Power) are hands down the best and loudest clean amps you can ever play through that give that tube warmth in your signal. Straight fact there. Speaking from over decades of experience and being the top Guitar Center Salesman in each store I worked (for the 3 years I was with them). It is my opinion, and a very solid one. Yes, the other amps you mention here are decent, but they can't do what the MM and Kustom can do for pure clean and loud (without a hint of dist/OD). Roland Jazz is pretty good too, however, it is completely solid state.
I bought a JC120 in 1979. Fantastic amp, and I used it all through the 80s with pedals. Also, it has a twin power amps - so it does a true chorus, and you can connect remote cabinets. As for the marshall story, you got it correct except for the transformers - they were radio spares, not mercury magnetics.
Amen -the JC120 is the absolute "Clean" beast - cleanest amp I have ever played - he didn't mention it is a stereo amp too - Unfortunately I can't afford a Kilobuck for one so I got a Randall RG200 - 200 watts and it's clean channel is to die for - like the 120, the dual stage distortion channel is ok, but it sounds better running your pedals through the clean channel and letting the pedals add the flavor.
In my world, there are really only these three contenders: 1. Fender Twin Reverb or Super Reverb. Or, Dual Showman amp head with a 212 cab. Preferrably Jensen speakers in all variants. 2. Music Man 212 130 or 410 60 combo (essencially Music Mans answer to the Twin and the Super respectively. They have a transistor preamp stage and a valve output stage. The opposite of the usual hybrid designs, in other words) 3 Roland Jazz Chorus
I'm a death metal guitarist, and I like my clean channel SUPER clean, absolutely NO dirt! I love my Hot Rod DeVille clean for my lead guitar tracks, and my Crate BV300H for my rhythm tones, the Crate is fuller sounding than the DeVille, but also a super clean glassy ch1, you sorta need an EQ pedal to extract it all, but it's in there for sure!!
For a SS amp, the Fender M-80 Chorus amp head, from the early 90's, has a great clean tone and plays loud. I sold mine when I bought my Marshall but, I found a Fender Princeton Chorus 2X10 combo amp for $100 and has the same tone but is a 50w. Oh, and the chorus effect on these models is about the best I've ever heard!
I have an AC30 Top Boost with greenbacks. The first time I ever played an AC30 I was sold and it took me about four years to save up for it. Whenever I describe the clean tone to people I also use the adjective jangly but "glassy", too. It's just so responsive to the touch. I will never, ever again use another amplifier as my main amp. I'm actually curious as to how on earth George Harrison managed to get such an awful tone out of these babies. lol It's almost impressive.
As far as Fender is concerned, a lot of their inexpensive transistor amps have really nice clean tones as well. Even some Fender amps have, gasp, surprisingly really good high gain sounds. Of course that is a conversation for another day! ;)
@@crazeyjoe I must admit to being rather a poor knowledge on the subject. Which SS amps of the big F have good loud clean sounds and for that matter good gain?
Joe Dazey I thought it a question for today. i wasn't being picky or a shit. I just really wanted to know as I really was looking for an inexpensive solid state amp (aren't we all and I'm Australian so I'm really cheap with $$) with great clean and dirty sounds. The Holy Grail of guitarists everywhere.I really like jazz, blues and 80's hard rock so if anyone can help me I'd be immensely grateful. :-)
@@skinnykarlos710 Absolutely! The Fender Roc Pro 1000 head (100 watts), Rock Pro 700 combo (70 watts), Fender Performer 1000 head or combo (100 watts) are "hybrid" amps. They are 100% solid state powered amplifiers. They both have a single 12AX7 (ECC83) preamp tube in the gain section of the "drive channel. Nice cleans and pretty good "smooth," not buzz saw sounding distortion on the drive channel. There are others, however, these are the first 2 that come to mind. They can be found on the used market for under $275.00 Australian Dollars. Here are some links... reverb.com/item/30268961-fender-performer-1000 reverb.com/item/29630153-fender-roc-pro-1000-head reverb.com/item/18728348-fender-roc-pro-700-guitar-amplifier This is a link to purchase a foot switch for these amps reverb.com/item/29216575-fender-fender-2-button-channel-reverb-footswitch-with-cable-0994056000
I think that fenders have an amazing clean tone. I’m basically a closet player so I never saw the need to spend 2 grand on a twin( even though I want one!) or a vox ac30 (which I really really want!) but I do have an older solid state fender sidekick reverb 65 which I bought in 1987.its been a very solid amp for me. When I was in the military it went with me nearly everywhere(even lost in transit for a month!) it’s been banged around and just keeps going and has an excellent sound still... I also have one of those fender fm212R things that I bought just for my louder days. The amp is hated by most players . It has terrible reviews. But I like mine. The clean Channel is actually pretty damn good.and with a little effort , playing with the controls , channel 2 can be ok too . For my acoustic amp, I have a fishman loudbox and it is fantastic
My 100 watt Heathkit stereo amp that I built in 1966 while in high school. In the late 1960's I had a Plush 100 watt Bass Amp head. It was designed by Carl Marantz and it was a spectacular amp.
Like the "share the music"! So true too! Most of us have items kicking around we find old or ordinary that kids would pee themselves for... great idea!
A couple years ago i picked up a Roland Mobile Cube at a garage sale for $20 brand new, never used. When i got home and online i was shocked to see that they sell for $189. At almost 200 bucks I'm not sure it's worth it but i will say for a little 5 or 10 watt practice amp it definitely packs a punch. I use it primarily for my mobile modular synth because it's not only small and light but it can run on batteries, is stereo and stays clean even cranked way up. It has a bunch of different settings for acoustic or electric guitar, vocals, or synths with a tone knob and both distortion and overdrive which are ok but the stereo chorus sounds pretty decent and the delay and reverb are surprisingly good. Plus it has mono or stereo 1/4 inch inputs, a stereo 1/8 inch input and rca line level inputs and a separate 1/4 inch mic input. It's definitely loud enough for small gigs and perfect for outdoor or traveling noise makers. Convenient, clean sounding with distortion, overdrive, chorus, delay and reverb in stereo for 20 bucks was a steal but if you can find one for around 100 or less buy it because if you don't like it you can probably sell it for more than you paid for it. This is a video of me using it at the garage i worked at lol. ua-cam.com/video/vW2olzw65Q8/v-deo.html
Thought I'd post a few details in a comment about this review, Cuz I have 76' Fender Twin Reverb and I just got a 93' Hiwatt DR103 this past week. The DR actually stands for Dave Reeves (No Big Deal, I like this Guys Channel and watch it quite often cuz it's Very Helpful in Many Ways) So the DR103 Custom Hiwatt 100 is of the Hiwatt Biacrown UK, 51 Hallgate Doncaster Made in England era. It's the version with the dual Normal Channel and dual Bright Channel inputs that can be bridged and used at the same time. I ran that into the 2 OS Rectifier Straight Bottom Mesa Boogie 4x12's Cab that I use for jamming with my drummer. I gotta tell ya, I've been utilizing a Dual Rec 100 watt head for Rig 1 and a Triple Rec 150 watt head for Rig 2, So them Cabs get plenty of juice, but Somehow that Hiwatt head puts out So Much More Power than both of those Mesa Boogie Heads put together! I think it could Blow All 8 of them 12's right outta the Cabinets without even being turned up Half Way. By that, I mean having the Normal Channel at around 1 o'clock so it gives it a Complete warm and full bottom end, with the Bright Channel at around noon to give it a Crystal Clear high end. At those settings, It's getting plenty of the Pre-Amp Tubes working, But only had to turn the Master Volume up to maybe close to the 10 o'clock position and That Was Pretty Violent, To say the least, lol... It could've kept right on going up, but I've Never Ever heard them 2 Cabs have that 'Please Don't Kill Me' sound like that before. That type of Clarity at Such a High Volume is Absolutely Amazing! Them OS Rectifier Straight Bottom Cabinets are some Seriously Tough Cabinets but they are No Match for the Headroom of that Hiwatt. The Hiwatt head does not have Distortion or Reverb, So It's All About Crystal Clear Power, and The Fact that It takes Pedals like a Champ, Is a Tremendous Bonus, So Without a Doubt, It's The Best Musical Investment I've Made Yet, Hands Down. I only paid a lil over $1800 for it with shipping included, So I got into the 'Hiwatt Club' without losing a limb. The 76' Fender Twin Reverb I have, I picked up for only $200 on Let Go. Them Tubes are kinda Beat Up, and the Pots are a lil Scratchy and Dusty, but the Screen is Tear Free, So I'll say it's still in Pretty Good shape considering it's a 42 year old amp. I will also be Inclined to Agree, That Infamous World Renowned Instantly Recognizable Reverb is purely a Gift from God Himself to the Music World, and has Definitely earned it's way into being 1 of The Top Best Sounding Amplifiers of All Time. It weights around 85 lbs, So it spends it's time in the Corner of My room, Nice and Cozy. It don't see No Travel or Gig time, Only Playing and Recording time, and it is Perfect for both, IMO. I hope y'all enjoyed a few extra details about a couple Historical Amps from a neutral persons Point of View. Have a Great Day - Jay
Speaking as a classic rock and Jazz player........My top 3 are; 1. The Fender Blues Jr III with a Frommell mod kit and a Celestion G12H or, Electro Voice 12 in. Blues Jr uses EL84 tubes which some people argue are cleaner than the Deluxe Reverb 6V6. The older EV 12 speaker is the holy grail of tone. Celestions are very clean too. In comparison, stock Fender Jensen speakers are muddy and Icepicky. 90% of newer retail amps have speakers made by Eminence, of which only a rare few custom designs are good. 2. The Johnson Marquis JM60 Stereo amp. The Johnson JM 60 is a hybrid which uses a 12AX7 preamp tube, feeding two 60 watt solid state amps for 60 watts Stereo 120 watts mono. The 3 Digitech Amp modeling channels are American, British and Johnson. The Johnson "clean tube" setting is cleaner warmer and sparkly than the American "Black Face" which is a Fender Twin. I have a Celestion G12H in mine. And, it sounds a tad cleaner than my Frommell modded Deluxe Reverb with a Celestion G12H. The Johnson "Clean Tube" setting, is more like a Fender Princeton. I sat the Johnson and the Deluxe side by side with an A-B switch. The, American "black face" and the Deluxe sounded almost identical. The Johnson "black face" modeling is so true to the Fender twin. I could tell the slight more attack of the twin's 6L6 tubes vs the Deluxe 6V6s. The Digitech amp modeling is just amazing for an amp built in 1992. BTW: Digitech bought Johnson Amps, and produced the Marquis and Millennium's , but the amps were expensive $1200-$2000 new so they didn't sell well. I bought my Johnson off eBay for under $400 which included the J8 effects pedal board. 3. My Frommel modded 2014 Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue, with the Celestion G12H anniversary model speaker. I did a lot of research on the Deluxe Reverb mods because the stock 2014 DR was not sounding like I remember the jangly handwired 65s. It was Icepicky and muddy. Frommel apparently took all the best mods on the internet and incorporated into his kit. The Linda Ronstadt DR mods and the Don Henley of the Eagles mods, kitted it up with a great DIY procedure almost anyone could do. I took my time, and carefully did the mod in 5 Hrs. Frommel selects only top of the line prime capacitors. There are roughly 30 parts in the kit. The results were just stunning. My DR now has the famous Fender sparkle and warm woody tones. My Deluxe Reverb is delicious. I showed my Steel Guitar playing buddy my modded DR. He plugged in his pedal steel said Wow!............. I'm gonna have to mod my Blues Jr. He called me up a few weeks ago to tell me he did the Frommell "supreme kit" mod and the Celestion 12 to his Blues Jr. He was just raving about it. He said the clean head room increased a lot. The tone improvement was amazing. The clarity of the Celestion speaker was a big change too. He is a tone hound and said his Blues Jr NOW sounds better than his $1200 Quilter Steel amp or his 65 Fender Showman. He has been playing 40 years and has had prolly 30-40 of the best tube amps he could find but, now his Favorite is his Blues Jr. He said at 15 tube watts and the EL84s and 32 LBS he can drag it to gigs without breaking his back. and It sounds fantastic.
FENDER Amps are the best sounding, most reliable amps on the planet. Imagine playing through one, since 1966, with no breakdowns, other than changing some 6L6GC tubes. GREAT AMPS!
For years hated fender equipment. Great friend told me you'll know your music taste is maturing when you learn gain doesn't need to be maxed all the time. Recently acquired a 04 deluxe anniversary strat and hot rod deluxe 3 in tweed. I get it now. It may not be the cleanest of fenders but it really seems to be one of the most toured with amps. While I still love the unapologetic destruction from my randall warheads and peavey 5150 this fender is a loved purchase. Now to see what the mesa things all about as a mark 5 35 is now looking at me too. Love the channel.
Thanks man! I’ve recently been teaching myself to back off of the gain control. My tone is now much more articulate than it once was. If you REALLY wanna surprise yourself, turn the gain down on the Warhead and the 5150. I found it’s virtually the same tone but with a lot more definition. ;)
@@RobertWJackson I'm definitely going to try that. Thanks for the tweak idea. Off-topic question but do you have a video explaining your outlook on the reverse Flying V for the Gibson corvus? Actually used to own a Corvette in a few years ago so I love seeing people rip on the can opener guitar
Morgan PR12 combo (maybe the best I've ever heard) Swart Atomic AST Pro head Swart Atomic Jr head Laney IronHeart 120 Orange Crush Pro (surprisingly good)
I believe that Evans Amplifiers are used by many professional pedal steel guitarists, who put their money with Evans, for its high power, huge headroom, light weight, and sweet, sweet clean tone. The pinnacle of solid-state without sterility IMHO. More than a few guitarists use Evans amps like a lightweight Fender Twin for wonderful, high-headroom cleans, and get everything else from their pedalboard. No need for chiropractors and pain meds. (or Roadies), to get “That!” tone.
I bought a old mint JC-120 in 2003 for $300. The guitar player for Al Green used it on tour a few times. Man I miss that amp. Something about running a Overdrive pedal through a JC120 for the first time make you realize how a clean high headroom amp is really a pedal players delight.
My ZT Lunchbox puts out 100wRMS via internal speaker (half the size of the Victory 'with' a speaker inside) and another 100wRMS via external cabinet (handles ANY 8ohm cabinet) ... Total 200wRMS + cabinet... drowning out 100w heads... the small light amp is perfect for travel with a Vox Fx Starstream guitar, or any guitar + a modelling pedalboard (like my Line 6 POD 500X HD)... and it's actually the size of a kids lunchbox!
I have the *Roland JC-77* 80 watts 2x10. Half the weight of JC-120. Rarely needs to go past 2, it's that loud and Clean. Takes pedals and all-in-one processors very well. *Traynor YCV* series is a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe style 2 channel 1x12. I have the YCV40. Takes pedals well, and loud enough on 2 to play bars un-mic'd. I run the amp clean and have 3 dirt pedals in front, depending on the tone I'm after Mojo Mojo Overdrive, Boss Combo Drive (AC30) and Radial Tonebone Hot British. There are many Marshall 2 or more channel amps with amazing clean that I played. JVM100 combo (friend owns) and JMD501 combo (I own)
My favorite that I owned was the peavey 212 classic chorus from early 90s. Basically a Roland competitor and had great clean and stereo chorus sound with a large spring tank. Unlike the crappy Roland overdrive it had respectable, active eq overdrive. I gigged with just that and the foot switch. Sold it due to being so damn heavy. A young man’s amp. Id love a 208 version
Great video. I tried a Princeton Reverb at a music store and was blown away by the great clean sound coming from such a small amp but too expensive for me at the time. I had a great Twin Reverb about 50 years ago but you'd almost need a forklift to hoist it (so heavy). Today I get a decent clean sound from a Blues Jr iii by adjusting the volume lower and master volume higher. I also have a Peavey Envoy (solid state) that is surprisingly great at cleans too.
The Blues Jr.’s have a great clean sound! All of the Fender Hot Rod Series amps do, actually. They just came out with the fourth generation of these and I’m excited to hear them.
1956chip I second the Princeton Reverb. I own it and it sounds like a Deluxe Reverb that doesn’t blow my ears out. At 15 watts its similar volume to Blues Jr but with far superior clean and overdriven sound even after mods on the BJr.
Agree. I am still wanting a Princeton Reverb Reissue and am wondering, 1) is yours a blackface or silverface? 2) at what volume approximately is the breakup? I am assuming that the breakup volume would be slightly lower on the silverface (but could be wrong), thanks.
1956chip Mine is a blackface 65 reissue and has the spec ed 12” speaker so it may stay clean longer than the standard 10”. The sweet spot for me is 4-5. It start breaking up about 5 but can be clean if you play softer. Thats with a strat with very low output (5k neck) single coils so humbuckers or hotter pickups would distort it earlier. 5 is very loud and would be unwise though play at that level much. Comfortable but still nicely loud level is 3.5-4 and its still very close to breakup and will if you really hit hard. Lovepedal Amp 11 pairs nicely for a little lower volume sweet breakup. Sounds great with Tubescreamers but only when at that high vol breakup level. I think thats most fender amps though. I’m very happy with the stock sound.
Some people would choose the vox models over the fender models, really depends on the style you play. Think I heard that Blues players love the Fenders for the reverb and the bite, while Jazz players love the Vox for the warmth and clarity. For me, I think that both amps can deliver, but certain songs or styles definitely beg for a particular amp. I think the Fenders make a stronger case simply because they cater to a wider range of commonly played styles. The Vox is great for showing off extremely difficult playing skills... while the Fender is great for making the average player sound like a dynamo.
All of this and yet absolutely no mention of the Music Man amplifiers. They sound superb and absolutely slaughter both Fender and Roland amps. It’s the pristine sparkly top end of the Jazz Chorus meets the warmth of a Twin Reverb. Quick attack but absolutely massive sounding and a much thicker tone than a Twin Reverb. It takes pedals better than a Jazz Chorus, especially drive pedals. The only amp that I enjoyed equally as much was a Matchless.
I remember playing a used 2x10 music man in a pawn shop close to 30 years ago. can't remember the model #..I thought it was one of the best sounding amps I heard.
Agreed. Music Man amps were the epitome of Leo Fender's progression towards clean headroom - from tweed to blonde to brown to black, and then to Music Man. Real loud. Real clean.
Music Man amps are kind of forgotten by a lot of people these days. Maybe some people were a bit put off by the hybrid layout, which was very unusual. They had a transistor preamp stage and a valve power stage. But I, for one, agree with you. They were absolutely stellar. Fender kind of responded, though, by going for an ultra linear output stage (same design principal as Marshall applied to their infamous 200 watt Major models that Mick Ronson and Ritchie Blackmore used) design on their line from 1977 onwards, which gave the Twin 130 watts and a totally clean, unclipped sound all the way up. They even had a a model called the Super Twin Reverb 'round that time. Ultra linear like the normal model, but with 180 watts. That thing was LOUD(!) and totally, totally clean. Weighed as much as an oil tanker, and put grey hairs in the heads of many a FOH engineer...
My amp made #2 on the list!! Bought a '65 DRRI earlier this year before the introduction of the Tone King versions. I don't know why it took me so long to subscribe here. I've long been fond your interesting, informative videos presented in your inimitably humble fashion, from your well-lit dungeon. lol
Princeton Reverb limited ed with a stock 12” speaker is the best small amp I’ve ever heard. Big sound. I had a blue jr with mods and new speaker and the Pr Reverb blows it away.
I loved my Mesa Boogie Express 25 for clean till I got a vintage JC120. Nothing compares to a vintage JC. Most sound determining parts are the speakers.
Thank you, Robert. Recently been watching JC120 reviews. Too big for my apt. but I agree with your choice after hearing it. I don't like 'chorus' very much but the JC is not average sounding chorus.
JC120 is a killer amp. The Chorus on it is superb. The newer recent versions tackled the overdrive on it and it's somewhat better. Waiting to get a newer version 2nd hand.
Said the following musicians... never: James Hetfield Kirk Hammett Robert Fripp Wes Borland Albert King, Andy Summers (The Police), Robert Smith (of The Cure) Billy Duffy (The Cult, Siouxsie and the Banshees) Pat Metheny. Jeff Buckley Steve Levine [producer of bands such as Culture Club, The Beach Boys and The Clash and a lot of others The amp is a standard in any major studio, btw
so basically you - a random nobody on the internet with... how many platinum awards did you say you have? - are complaining about "tone"? kid, grow up. And btw, both James and Kirk use the head version live, since the 80's. :)
Couldn’t agree more David! I’ve been a die-hard Metallica fan my whole life, and James Hetfield is the reason I learned to play guitar back in the mid-80’s in the first place. I follow them closely, including their gear. They’ve BOTH had Roland JC-120 heads in their rigs for decades now.
The cleanest amp I've ever played was by Tone King. All it did was amplify the sound from the guitar. It had absolutely no tone, as if the EQ was just straight flat. It was great.
I had the chance to buy a carvin x100b from my guitar teacher when i started playing ..... i didn't. That is a mistake that will haunt me on my deathbed
I had one of those. Incredibly loud, nice chorus and vibrato, but the EQ wasn't very forgiving, and I had to change it all the time when I switched guitars. I replaced it with a Peavey Classic 50 and didn't miss it at all, especially the Scorpion speakers. After that I started building my own tube guitar amps, and I haven't felt the need to buy a ready-made amp since.
I had a peavey renown 400 in 86 that was stellar sounding on the clean channel!!.. the volume seemed to be endless as well... I should have never sold it... smh...
Evans amps are great for clean sounds. Many jazz guitarists use them... and they learned about them from pedal steel players, and you know they prefer a clean, clear tone. Really worth checking them out.
Have you ever tried a Carvin AG-100 amp. It’s a combo with push button for acoustic. I’ve had mine for 15 yeas and I still love it. Just curious if you have any thoughts.
As soon as I started playing this video, I was waiting diligently for you to mention the Roland jazz chorus. I was about to feel really let down, until I got to number one. You got that right - the Roland is the king of clean. As for the storage and sound, everyone knows that amp kind of sucks at that, but I will note that as a recording engineer, I recorded a guitarist using a small combo amp version of this amp, a single speaker, 60 W version, and for whatever reason, the distortion on that particular amp sounded really really good. I never heard another Roland amp sound that good distorted. Maybe it’s model-specific…
Always enjoy these lists. I would probably add (3) Mesa Rectoverb 1 x12 combo, (which is also a fire-breathing Dragon), the Laney Cub & the Quilter 101 ( all Fender Princeton-like pristine Clean's ) - but all of your choices were spot-on. Great information here. oNe LovE from NYC
The Peavey Heritage is solid and the Rythym channel is parameticaly variable. The lead channel is as clean or dirt or tube scremer type sound. Both channels take stomp boxes well. It has fx FX loop, speaker Equalized Line Out, Quality spring reverb and PHASER( it was 1980). Even in Low PowerMode it is LOUDLY LOUD yet warm and tasty. Plus, if you need to play Madison Square Garden next Wednesday, It will do the job, as it is a cathode fed 120 watts of clead Cathode fed TUBE POWER when set on High Power Mode.
I don't have very much experience of guitar amps, but the best sounding clean amp I ever had was a Laney TF100. Of course it had great distortion sounds, but I loved it because its clean tones. Back then I played mostly The Shadows and The Ventures songs, and that amp fulfilled my needs perfectly.
Great video. Thanks. I would like to just add my two cents and say that the Fender Champion, a solid state 100 watt version 212, is extremely clean sounding. Recently, I am really curious about the Marshall Origin serious. Marshall designed it to not have the highs and lows taken out like many Marshalls of today are engineered, so with the Origin there is a natural wide spectrum of sounds available. People say that the Origin sounds a little bit like a Fender.
I too, like the Champion 100. Very affordable, sounds good, not too heavy to lug around and way easier to use than the Mustang series. The only modeling amp I would ever buy but of course I haven't seen all of them.
I'm in a band backing an old school R&B vocal group. 90% of the time I need crystal clean yet sweet tones. Playing lots of staccato triads, skinny chords if you will. Most to all of my guitars/amps break up at volume. I'm a Fender man. Maybe I need to obtain a Princeton.
What are your views on the Vox AD 30 VT ? I'm starting to play guitar again after an injury that caused a partial amputation to my right and dominant hand. It's been a struggle learning how to use my hand again and playing guitar. When I saw the injury to my hand, my first thought was, "My God, I can't play". I Liked and Subscribed, Robert. Cheers.
Sorry to hear about your injury, but I’m glad to hear you’re recovery seems to be trending back in the right direction. The AD Valvefronix were the all solid-state version of the Valvetronix amps. Not great, but not horrible. But the VT models with the tube preamps were quite a big difference in tone.
1970s Yamaha G50-112 II Pat Metheney and Mike Stern used them back in the day. Designed in part by Paul Rivera, they were Yamaha's answer to Fender's clean amps. I owned one in the 70s, foolishly got rid of it, and picked up another a couple of years ago for around $150. Headroom for days, nice overdrive (not for metal), built-in parametric EQ, and some of the most tube-like tones I've ever heard form SS.
DR stands for DAVE Reeves, not Dan Reeves. Hate to nitpick; surprised I'm the first one to catch that. I currently play a Science Mother, which is a modified inspired by a DR201 circuit. . .runs 225W clean, 365W pushed hard, has a depth rotary knob similar to an FAC on an Orange, making it more bass friendly, as well as an overdrive channel that incorporates an additional tube ie 2 additional gain stages into the tone, so it ranges from beautiful Hiwatt style cleans to HIGH GAIN. Highly recommended.
The Peavey trans tube series has surprisingly good solid state clean tones. I used to gig with a 112 EFX and a TransFormer 212. Awesome amps, took tons of abuse.
It should be said that anyone who prefers the "clean" tone from a tube amp (usually because they describe it as "warm") is actually getting a slightly overdriven sound (that's where the "warmth" comes from!) If you GENUINELY want a completely clean sound, a solid state amp like the JC (or even a digital power amp with an eq for tone shaping) is the way to go.
I've found that a lot of the Orange Amps, even the solid-states have a a great clean sound. Nice sorta jazzy sounds. The Rockerverbs and the Crush series are good with pedals too.
I couldn’t stand a single-tone that I got out of the Crush series amps. (I admit I have not heard the Crush Pro Series yet.) The Rockerverb’s got so much gain in it that the clean tone for me was ALMOST non-existent. Then I tried a Thunderverb, which has EVEN MORE gain, and it DEFINITELY didn’t have a clean sound. That said, those two amps - especially the Thunderverb - are two of the coolest metal tones I’ve heard. I’d love to have a Thunderverb, but they ain’t cheap.
I totally disagree here. I have the Rockerverb 50 MKI 6V6 with a 2x12 cab with WGS-speakers. I did a lot of preamptube swapping. The clean channel is fantastic and takes pedals really well. I play a lot of funky stuff on this channel and got many compliments on the clean sounds. Also, this channel sounds very nice with an EP-booster in front. And you know what, the drivechannel goes from almost clean!!! to an outrageous overdrive and everything in between. It has four gainstages in one driveknob and it also cleans up very well. You have to know how to use this amp and you have to spend money on quality preamptubes and powertubes. If you say the clean tone is almost non-existent you never spend serious time with this amp. A Roland Jazz Chorus sounds flat and bland in comparison to the RV MKI. My Diezel Schmidt's clean channel sounds ten times better than this solid state crap from Roland. Man, I know, I had them all.
The Jazz Chorus isn’t solid-state crap, it’s one of the most respected solid-state amps out there specifically because of its clean tone. I’ve spent plenty of time with the Rockerverbs. I spent many years working at a store that carried them and I sold them for a living. I don’t have anything bad to say about them at all, I think they’re great amps. I just don’t care for the clean tone. Couldn’t get any headroom out of it without plugging a Tele into it. Play a Schecter with Duncans in it and just wouldn’t stay clean enough loud enough for my purposes.
I own twin, deluxe and super...all reissues. Twin without a doubt is a clean tone monster. Volume maxed clean. My deluxe and super start breaking at 6-7. Clean is kind of a personal opinion. How much volume can you get away before breakup or if miked thru the house.
Yeah those old jazz chorus's are amazing I used 2 of them on stage, 1 for my cleans and one as my chorus through my Dumble. Iv'e moved on to Fenders for my cleans but still love those Rolands.
300watts : perfect amp for clean tones and blowing out all the windows in your house.
How to turn an indoor gig into an outdoor gig in one chord.
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The Fender Princeton Reverb clean is stunning. The 6V6 tubes are the key ingredient. Incredibly rich and clear with a lovely lower mids to bass.
Totally agree, I own one and 6v6 tubes are my favorite.
Recently bought a Roland Jazz 40. After having a Vox AC 15, Fender Twin Reverb, Vibrolux, ect. If you want that glassy Fender sound just engage the clean about 1/4 of the way. The new distortion is nice. And you can also add sound, you can't add clean. It's either there or it isn't. Tired of the tube amps. You have to turn them up so loud to get tone you want that they just aren't practical. With the right solid state amp you can keep the volume down and still get a great tone.
I played on a Roland like that many years ago in a music store. I still talk about the sound of that amp.
Cool that it made the list.
Best clean tone I ever got with my Telecaster was through a Legend A60. Clear, full, and loud. Excellent with all the pedals I used. It's on my Why did I sell that? list, the same list that every guitar player has.
The Mesa Boogie Mark V clean tone is pretty amazing as well. It just gets overshadowed by it's high gain tones.
The Roland JC120 is definatly THE best clean amp ever made! I haven`t been able to play one yet, but hearing it on Metallica`s concert in Seattle 1989, and other places, it is the next amp on my list for sure !
That’s been the base of both James’ and Kirk’s clean tone for pretty much their entire career.
I've been playing a 1983 jc120 since then, love it, cleanest sound. Thank God for the wheels.
Had the chance to perform with the roland jazz chorus last week. Amazing amp. Unreal chorus and clean tone.
Here's one that flew below the "clean sounding" radar back in its day: the Peavey Session. The Session was designed as a keyboardists and pedal steel guitarist's amp. It has 200 watts of clean RMS power. It is LOUD and won't break up at all. As a guitarist, I used a Session head in bands I played in back in the 80s. Since it wouldn't overdrive at all, I had a decent pedal for that purpose. As a clean amp it had a lot of body to its sound, and really did sound nice with my guitars.
I have a Twin Reverb RI and Roland JC120 which are both great clean, but the best clean sound I've heard is from a friend's Bassman '59 reissue manufactured around 1996.
I know that you could not possibly know of every great clean amp, but there is one you ought to know about, 1949-51 Gibson GA-50 and GA-50T with tremolo.
At approximately 30 watts from 2 coke-bottle 6L6s it has one 12” and one 8” speaker. It’s brown and looks like an old suitcase. I have one and also a ‘65 Deluxe Reverb, a ‘64 AC-30, a 1999 Komet Fischer Trainwreck 60 and many more of those kinds of amps. The GA-50 simply kills every other clean amp I have ever heard. The great Jim Hall used one for a time and said that it gave him the absolutely the best tone he ever had.
It takes pedals like a dream even though it was designed and built a decade and a half before pedals were invented. It can play quite loudly with lots of headroom and if turned way up will produce a creamy and powerfully harmonic overdrive. However, that is not the best way to use it. Set at a low level with pedals is the key. Not only does this preserve your hearing and your lease, it preserves the amp as well. Those late’40s speakers are incredibly good sounding and are very hard to impossible to replace or to repair. You must treat them gently. Check one out, they occasionally show up on Ebay and Reverb and there are UA-cam vids (for better or worse) of them as well.
Without a doubt the Roland Jazz Chorus is THE clean amp to gig with.
Agreed!
@ Ian Sheridan You must be new here. LOL
I had an Epiphone Super Eight [4 Jensen 8"] with Hammond Reverb as my first amp back about 1964 or 65 can't fucking remember. Great 30 watt surf guitar amp and a real clean sound. Miss the old girl. Playing thru a Twin now. Love the Twin. It's ALIVE!
Great to see someone focusing on cleans for a change. Really nice demo and totally agree with your No.1.
I have noticed with amps I have owned over the years that its not just the amp. Its also the pickups and guitars used to get nice clean tones. Not only that, a nice cabinet that has the right matching speaker setup to match the amp and guitars.
Also worth looking into is the Peavey Bandit 65 and the Peavey Backstage Chorus 208. Sweet clear clean tones that sound almost acoustic with single coil guitars.
One thing about Fenders is that a big part of the clean tone is the Jensens. Now, not all Fenders come with Jensens. Celestions have become very common. My issue with Celestions is that they can distort too much and I like transparent speakers. I think they give more headroom and clarity. This is why I love EVs so much as well.
I agree 100 percent with your top 2. Twin reverb and Jazz chorus are the best of the best
The Ampeg VT 22. Ampeg's Version of the Fender Twin. Incredibly Clean with Enormous Headroom. Weights as much as an Anchor to the Titanic.
Yeap, I've got one and was surprised he went with the SVT over a V4/VT22 guitar amps. Ironically the SVT preamp is based on the V4B head, just with 6550's instead of 7027A tubes, and more power tubes.
The older Fender black and silver faced twins are some of the best amps ever made. I'm also a fan of the silver and red striped Peavey Bandits, very loud and clean sound.
Four years ago, I couldn’t give away an old Peavey Bandit for anything less than about $80. All of a sudden people started RAVING about them to the point Peavey reissued the damn things. LOL
Music Man amps (the Solid State Preamp/Tube Power) and the Kustom HV100 (preamp tubes and Solid State Power) are hands down the best and loudest clean amps you can ever play through that give that tube warmth in your signal. Straight fact there. Speaking from over decades of experience and being the top Guitar Center Salesman in each store I worked (for the 3 years I was with them).
It is my opinion, and a very solid one. Yes, the other amps you mention here are decent, but they can't do what the MM and Kustom can do for pure clean and loud (without a hint of dist/OD).
Roland Jazz is pretty good too, however, it is completely solid state.
Yamaha G100mk2 and Lab L5 are great sounding solid state clean amps used by lots of players.
The top 3 were spot on...no argument here, dude
A Fender Champion 100 has recently become my favorite amp.
I bought a JC120 in 1979. Fantastic amp, and I used it all through the 80s with pedals. Also, it has a twin power amps - so it does a true chorus, and you can connect remote cabinets.
As for the marshall story, you got it correct except for the transformers - they were radio spares, not mercury magnetics.
Err....no
Amen -the JC120 is the absolute "Clean" beast - cleanest amp I have ever played - he didn't mention it is a stereo amp too - Unfortunately I can't afford a Kilobuck for one so I got a Randall RG200 - 200 watts and it's clean channel is to die for - like the 120, the dual stage distortion channel is ok, but it sounds better running your pedals through the clean channel and letting the pedals add the flavor.
In my world, there are really only these three contenders:
1. Fender Twin Reverb or Super Reverb. Or, Dual Showman amp head with a 212 cab. Preferrably Jensen speakers in all variants.
2. Music Man 212 130 or 410 60 combo (essencially Music Mans answer to the Twin and the Super respectively. They have a transistor preamp stage and a valve output stage. The opposite of the usual hybrid designs, in other words)
3 Roland Jazz Chorus
I agree.. The Loanstar amps sound beautiful and very musical.
TJ Nugent - Loan star because you'll need a loan to get it.
Bass Fishing with the Antichrist hahahah so true!!!
Mesa nomad series cleans are amazing as well. I like the clean channel with a drive pedal.
I'm a death metal guitarist, and I like my clean channel SUPER clean, absolutely NO dirt! I love my Hot Rod DeVille clean for my lead guitar tracks, and my Crate BV300H for my rhythm tones, the Crate is fuller sounding than the DeVille, but also a super clean glassy ch1, you sorta need an EQ pedal to extract it all, but it's in there for sure!!
I read the title and instantly thought Mesa Lonestar and Fender Deluxe Reverb! Excellent list!
Thank you sir!
For a SS amp, the Fender M-80 Chorus amp head, from the early 90's, has a great clean tone and plays loud. I sold mine when I bought my Marshall but, I found a Fender Princeton Chorus 2X10 combo amp for $100 and has the same tone but is a 50w. Oh, and the chorus effect on these models is about the best I've ever heard!
Magnatone Twilighter and Fuchs Clean Machine and Jazz Classic II.
Henriksen solid state amps for jazz guys.
Your channel deserves to be at least 500 times as big as it is. I always enjoy your videos. Thanks.
Thanks man! Perhaps we’ll get there one day. In the meantime, we still have each other, right??? 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
I have an AC30 Top Boost with greenbacks. The first time I ever played an AC30 I was sold and it took me about four years to save up for it. Whenever I describe the clean tone to people I also use the adjective jangly but "glassy", too. It's just so responsive to the touch. I will never, ever again use another amplifier as my main amp. I'm actually curious as to how on earth George Harrison managed to get such an awful tone out of these babies. lol It's almost impressive.
They were plugged into PA systems back in the day which are essentially megaphones so the full tone isn't present during their concerts.
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My brother just gave me a 1980 Roland JC 60. I love it!!
I would be hard put to better that list. The no's 01 & 02 are just stellar pics in my opinion. Just spot on m8, spot on !!
As far as Fender is concerned, a lot of their inexpensive transistor amps have really nice clean tones as well. Even some Fender amps have, gasp, surprisingly really good high gain sounds. Of course that is a conversation for another day! ;)
@@crazeyjoe I must admit to being rather a poor knowledge on the subject. Which SS amps of the big F have good loud clean sounds and for that matter good gain?
Joe Dazey I thought it a question for today. i wasn't being picky or a shit. I just really wanted to know as I really was looking for an inexpensive solid state amp (aren't we all and I'm Australian so I'm really cheap with $$) with great clean and dirty sounds. The Holy Grail of guitarists everywhere.I really like jazz, blues and 80's hard rock so if anyone can help me I'd be immensely grateful. :-)
@@skinnykarlos710 Absolutely! The Fender Roc Pro 1000 head (100 watts), Rock Pro 700 combo (70 watts), Fender Performer 1000 head or combo (100 watts) are "hybrid" amps. They are 100% solid state powered amplifiers. They both have a single 12AX7 (ECC83) preamp tube in the gain section of the "drive channel. Nice cleans and pretty good "smooth," not buzz saw sounding distortion on the drive channel. There are others, however, these are the first 2 that come to mind. They can be found on the used market for under $275.00 Australian Dollars. Here are some links... reverb.com/item/30268961-fender-performer-1000 reverb.com/item/29630153-fender-roc-pro-1000-head reverb.com/item/18728348-fender-roc-pro-700-guitar-amplifier This is a link to purchase a foot switch for these amps reverb.com/item/29216575-fender-fender-2-button-channel-reverb-footswitch-with-cable-0994056000
@@crazeyjoe Thanks Joe. Cheers heaps M8.
I think that fenders have an amazing clean tone. I’m basically a closet player so I never saw the need to spend 2 grand on a twin( even though I want one!) or a vox ac30 (which I really really want!) but I do have an older solid state fender sidekick reverb 65 which I bought in 1987.its been a very solid amp for me. When I was in the military it went with me nearly everywhere(even lost in transit for a month!) it’s been banged around and just keeps going and has an excellent sound still... I also have one of those fender fm212R things that I bought just for my louder days. The amp is hated by most players . It has terrible reviews. But I like mine. The clean Channel is actually pretty damn good.and with a little effort , playing with the controls , channel 2 can be ok too . For my acoustic amp, I have a fishman loudbox and it is fantastic
The JC 120 is just awesome!
My 100 watt Heathkit stereo amp that I built in 1966 while in high school. In the late 1960's I had a Plush 100 watt Bass Amp head. It was designed by Carl Marantz and it was a spectacular amp.
Like the "share the music"! So true too! Most of us have items kicking around we find old or ordinary that kids would pee themselves for... great idea!
Not my idea, I just support them. They’re a fantastic organization. ;)
A couple years ago i picked up a Roland Mobile Cube at a garage sale for $20 brand new, never used. When i got home and online i was shocked to see that they sell for $189. At almost 200 bucks I'm not sure it's worth it but i will say for a little 5 or 10 watt practice amp it definitely packs a punch. I use it primarily for my mobile modular synth because it's not only small and light but it can run on batteries, is stereo and stays clean even cranked way up. It has a bunch of different settings for acoustic or electric guitar, vocals, or synths with a tone knob and both distortion and overdrive which are ok but the stereo chorus sounds pretty decent and the delay and reverb are surprisingly good. Plus it has mono or stereo 1/4 inch inputs, a stereo 1/8 inch input and rca line level inputs and a separate 1/4 inch mic input. It's definitely loud enough for small gigs and perfect for outdoor or traveling noise makers. Convenient, clean sounding with distortion, overdrive, chorus, delay and reverb in stereo for 20 bucks was a steal but if you can find one for around 100 or less buy it because if you don't like it you can probably sell it for more than you paid for it.
This is a video of me using it at the garage i worked at lol.
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Thought I'd post a few details in a comment about this review, Cuz I have 76' Fender Twin Reverb and I just got a 93' Hiwatt DR103 this past week. The DR actually stands for Dave Reeves (No Big Deal, I like this Guys Channel and watch it quite often cuz it's Very Helpful in Many Ways) So the DR103 Custom Hiwatt 100 is of the Hiwatt Biacrown UK, 51 Hallgate Doncaster Made in England era. It's the version with the dual Normal Channel and dual Bright Channel inputs that can be bridged and used at the same time. I ran that into the 2 OS Rectifier Straight Bottom Mesa Boogie 4x12's Cab that I use for jamming with my drummer. I gotta tell ya, I've been utilizing a Dual Rec 100 watt head for Rig 1 and a Triple Rec 150 watt head for Rig 2, So them Cabs get plenty of juice, but Somehow that Hiwatt head puts out So Much More Power than both of those Mesa Boogie Heads put together! I think it could Blow All 8 of them 12's right outta the Cabinets without even being turned up Half Way. By that, I mean having the Normal Channel at around 1 o'clock so it gives it a Complete warm and full bottom end, with the Bright Channel at around noon to give it a Crystal Clear high end. At those settings, It's getting plenty of the Pre-Amp Tubes working, But only had to turn the Master Volume up to maybe close to the 10 o'clock position and That Was Pretty Violent, To say the least, lol... It could've kept right on going up, but I've Never Ever heard them 2 Cabs have that 'Please Don't Kill Me' sound like that before. That type of Clarity at Such a High Volume is Absolutely Amazing! Them OS Rectifier Straight Bottom Cabinets are some Seriously Tough Cabinets but they are No Match for the Headroom of that Hiwatt. The Hiwatt head does not have Distortion or Reverb, So It's All About Crystal Clear Power, and The Fact that It takes Pedals like a Champ, Is a Tremendous Bonus, So Without a Doubt, It's The Best Musical Investment I've Made Yet, Hands Down. I only paid a lil over $1800 for it with shipping included, So I got into the 'Hiwatt Club' without losing a limb. The 76' Fender Twin Reverb I have, I picked up for only $200 on Let Go. Them Tubes are kinda Beat Up, and the Pots are a lil Scratchy and Dusty, but the Screen is Tear Free, So I'll say it's still in Pretty Good shape considering it's a 42 year old amp. I will also be Inclined to Agree, That Infamous World Renowned Instantly Recognizable Reverb is purely a Gift from God Himself to the Music World, and has Definitely earned it's way into being 1 of The Top Best Sounding Amplifiers of All Time. It weights around 85 lbs, So it spends it's time in the Corner of My room, Nice and Cozy. It don't see No Travel or Gig time, Only Playing and Recording time, and it is Perfect for both, IMO. I hope y'all enjoyed a few extra details about a couple Historical Amps from a neutral persons Point of View. Have a Great Day - Jay
Thanks Jason! That’s some great insight!
Speaking as a classic rock and Jazz player........My top 3 are;
1. The Fender Blues Jr III with a Frommell mod kit and a Celestion G12H or, Electro Voice 12 in. Blues Jr uses EL84 tubes which some people argue are cleaner than the Deluxe Reverb 6V6. The older EV 12 speaker is the holy grail of tone. Celestions are very clean too. In comparison, stock Fender Jensen speakers are muddy and Icepicky. 90% of newer retail amps have speakers made by Eminence, of which only a rare few custom designs are good.
2. The Johnson Marquis JM60 Stereo amp. The Johnson JM 60 is a hybrid which uses a 12AX7 preamp tube, feeding two 60 watt solid state amps for 60 watts Stereo 120 watts mono. The 3 Digitech Amp modeling channels are American, British and Johnson. The Johnson "clean tube" setting is cleaner warmer and sparkly than the American "Black Face" which is a Fender Twin. I have a Celestion G12H in mine. And, it sounds a tad cleaner than my Frommell modded Deluxe Reverb with a Celestion G12H. The Johnson "Clean Tube" setting, is more like a Fender Princeton. I sat the Johnson and the Deluxe side by side with an A-B switch. The, American "black face" and the Deluxe sounded almost identical. The Johnson "black face" modeling is so true to the Fender twin. I could tell the slight more attack of the twin's 6L6 tubes vs the Deluxe 6V6s. The Digitech amp modeling is just amazing for an amp built in 1992. BTW: Digitech bought Johnson Amps, and produced the Marquis and Millennium's , but the amps were expensive $1200-$2000 new so they didn't sell well. I bought my Johnson off eBay for under $400 which included the J8 effects pedal board.
3. My Frommel modded 2014 Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue, with the Celestion G12H anniversary model speaker. I did a lot of research on the Deluxe Reverb mods because the stock 2014 DR was not sounding like I remember the jangly handwired 65s. It was Icepicky and muddy.
Frommel apparently took all the best mods on the internet and incorporated into his kit. The Linda Ronstadt DR mods and the Don Henley of the Eagles mods, kitted it up with a great DIY procedure almost anyone could do. I took my time, and carefully did the mod in 5 Hrs. Frommel selects only top of the line prime capacitors. There are roughly 30 parts in the kit. The results were just stunning. My DR now has the famous Fender sparkle and warm woody tones. My Deluxe Reverb is delicious.
I showed my Steel Guitar playing buddy my modded DR. He plugged in his pedal steel said Wow!............. I'm gonna have to mod my Blues Jr. He called me up a few weeks ago to tell me he did the Frommell "supreme kit" mod and the Celestion 12 to his Blues Jr. He was just raving about it. He said the clean head room increased a lot. The tone improvement was amazing. The clarity of the Celestion speaker was a big change too.
He is a tone hound and said his Blues Jr NOW sounds better than his $1200 Quilter Steel amp or his 65 Fender Showman. He has been playing 40 years and has had prolly 30-40 of the best tube amps he could find but, now his Favorite is his Blues Jr. He said at 15 tube watts and the EL84s and 32 LBS he can drag it to gigs without breaking his back. and It sounds fantastic.
FENDER Amps are the best sounding, most reliable amps on the planet. Imagine playing through one, since 1966, with no breakdowns, other than changing some 6L6GC tubes. GREAT AMPS!
You have to imagine that, because it never happened. We all love fender amps, but they lack the versatility of a vox or the reliability of a hiwatt.
For years hated fender equipment. Great friend told me you'll know your music taste is maturing when you learn gain doesn't need to be maxed all the time. Recently acquired a 04 deluxe anniversary strat and hot rod deluxe 3 in tweed. I get it now. It may not be the cleanest of fenders but it really seems to be one of the most toured with amps. While I still love the unapologetic destruction from my randall warheads and peavey 5150 this fender is a loved purchase. Now to see what the mesa things all about as a mark 5 35 is now looking at me too. Love the channel.
Thanks man! I’ve recently been teaching myself to back off of the gain control. My tone is now much more articulate than it once was. If you REALLY wanna surprise yourself, turn the gain down on the Warhead and the 5150. I found it’s virtually the same tone but with a lot more definition. ;)
@@RobertWJackson I'm definitely going to try that. Thanks for the tweak idea. Off-topic question but do you have a video explaining your outlook on the reverse Flying V for the Gibson corvus? Actually used to own a Corvette in a few years ago so I love seeing people rip on the can opener guitar
Knightmare 1690 as a matter of fact... LOL ua-cam.com/video/gcoIgBZ-yO4/v-deo.html
Morgan PR12 combo (maybe the best I've ever heard)
Swart Atomic AST Pro head
Swart Atomic Jr head
Laney IronHeart 120
Orange Crush Pro (surprisingly good)
I believe that Evans Amplifiers are used by many professional pedal steel guitarists, who put their money with Evans, for its high power, huge headroom, light weight, and sweet, sweet clean tone. The pinnacle of solid-state without sterility IMHO. More than a few guitarists use Evans amps like a lightweight Fender Twin for wonderful, high-headroom cleans, and get everything else from their pedalboard. No need for chiropractors and pain meds. (or Roadies), to get “That!” tone.
Awesome list. Thank you!!! Why wasn't Orange included? 😕
Orange amps aren’t really known for their clean tones.
I bought a old mint JC-120 in 2003 for $300. The guitar player for Al Green used it on tour a few times. Man I miss that amp. Something about running a Overdrive pedal through a JC120 for the first time make you realize how a clean high headroom amp is really a pedal players delight.
Try the Carvin Belair 212 Vintage Series. I own 2. It is one of the best clean amplifiers out there. IMHO
My ZT Lunchbox puts out 100wRMS via internal speaker (half the size of the Victory 'with' a speaker inside) and another 100wRMS via external cabinet (handles ANY 8ohm cabinet) ... Total 200wRMS + cabinet... drowning out 100w heads... the small light amp is perfect for travel with a Vox Fx Starstream guitar, or any guitar + a modelling pedalboard (like my Line 6 POD 500X HD)... and it's actually the size of a kids lunchbox!
I have the *Roland JC-77* 80 watts 2x10. Half the weight of JC-120. Rarely needs to go past 2, it's that loud and Clean. Takes pedals and all-in-one processors very well.
*Traynor YCV* series is a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe style 2 channel 1x12. I have the YCV40. Takes pedals well, and loud enough on 2 to play bars un-mic'd. I run the amp clean and have 3 dirt pedals in front, depending on the tone I'm after Mojo Mojo Overdrive, Boss Combo Drive (AC30) and Radial Tonebone Hot British.
There are many Marshall 2 or more channel amps with amazing clean that I played. JVM100 combo (friend owns) and JMD501 combo (I own)
My favorite that I owned was the peavey 212 classic chorus from early 90s. Basically a Roland competitor and had great clean and stereo chorus sound with a large spring tank. Unlike the crappy Roland overdrive it had respectable, active eq overdrive. I gigged with just that and the foot switch. Sold it due to being so damn heavy. A young man’s amp. Id love a 208 version
Great video. I tried a Princeton Reverb at a music store and was blown away by the great clean sound coming from such a small amp but too expensive for me at the time. I had a great Twin Reverb about 50 years ago but you'd almost need a forklift to hoist it (so heavy). Today I get a decent clean sound from a Blues Jr iii by adjusting the volume lower and master volume higher. I also have a Peavey Envoy (solid state) that is surprisingly great at cleans too.
The Blues Jr.’s have a great clean sound! All of the Fender Hot Rod Series amps do, actually. They just came out with the fourth generation of these and I’m excited to hear them.
1956chip I second the Princeton Reverb. I own it and it sounds like a Deluxe Reverb that doesn’t blow my ears out. At 15 watts its similar volume to Blues Jr but with far superior clean and overdriven sound even after mods on the BJr.
Agree. I am still wanting a Princeton Reverb Reissue and am wondering, 1) is yours a blackface or silverface? 2) at what volume approximately is the breakup? I am assuming that the breakup volume would be slightly lower on the silverface (but could be wrong), thanks.
1956chip Mine is a blackface 65 reissue and has the spec ed 12” speaker so it may stay clean longer than the standard 10”. The sweet spot for me is 4-5. It start breaking up about 5 but can be clean if you play softer. Thats with a strat with very low output (5k neck) single coils so humbuckers or hotter pickups would distort it earlier. 5 is very loud and would be unwise though play at that level much. Comfortable but still nicely loud level is 3.5-4 and its still very close to breakup and will if you really hit hard. Lovepedal Amp 11 pairs nicely for a little lower volume sweet breakup. Sounds great with Tubescreamers but only when at that high vol breakup level. I think thats most fender amps though. I’m very happy with the stock sound.
Thanks David D. Very helpful reply for me. Beyond 3 would more than awesome volume/power for my purpose. Stock sound is amazing to me.
Some people would choose the vox models over the fender models, really depends on the style you play. Think I heard that Blues players love the Fenders for the reverb and the bite, while Jazz players love the Vox for the warmth and clarity. For me, I think that both amps can deliver, but certain songs or styles definitely beg for a particular amp. I think the Fenders make a stronger case simply because they cater to a wider range of commonly played styles. The Vox is great for showing off extremely difficult playing skills... while the Fender is great for making the average player sound like a dynamo.
All of this and yet absolutely no mention of the Music Man amplifiers. They sound superb and absolutely slaughter both Fender and Roland amps. It’s the pristine sparkly top end of the Jazz Chorus meets the warmth of a Twin Reverb. Quick attack but absolutely massive sounding and a much thicker tone than a Twin Reverb. It takes pedals better than a Jazz Chorus, especially drive pedals. The only amp that I enjoyed equally as much was a Matchless.
I remember playing a used 2x10 music man in a pawn shop close to 30 years ago. can't remember the model #..I thought it was one of the best sounding amps I heard.
Agreed. Music Man amps were the epitome of Leo Fender's progression towards clean headroom - from tweed to blonde to brown to black, and then to Music Man. Real loud. Real clean.
Have to agree. The Music Man amps would definitely hold its place in the top five.
Music Man amps are kind of forgotten by a lot of people these days. Maybe some people were a bit put off by the hybrid layout, which was very unusual. They had a transistor preamp stage and a valve power stage. But I, for one, agree with you. They were absolutely stellar.
Fender kind of responded, though, by going for an ultra linear output stage (same design principal as Marshall applied to their infamous 200 watt Major models that Mick Ronson and Ritchie Blackmore used) design on their line from 1977 onwards, which gave the Twin 130 watts and a totally clean, unclipped sound all the way up.
They even had a a model called the Super Twin Reverb 'round that time. Ultra linear like the normal model, but with 180 watts. That thing was LOUD(!) and totally, totally clean. Weighed as much as an oil tanker, and put grey hairs in the heads of many a FOH engineer...
ElephantTusks I used to have a Music 212, that was a good amp so was the Musician 110, cranking little amp!
My amp made #2 on the list!! Bought a '65 DRRI earlier this year before the introduction of the Tone King versions. I don't know why it took me so long to subscribe here. I've long been fond your interesting, informative videos presented in your inimitably humble fashion, from your well-lit dungeon. lol
Thanks man! Glad you’re enjoying my channel. Welcome to the family!
Princeton Reverb limited ed with a stock 12” speaker is the best small amp I’ve ever heard. Big sound. I had a blue jr with mods and new speaker and the Pr Reverb blows it away.
I loved my Mesa Boogie Express 25 for clean till I got a vintage JC120. Nothing compares to a vintage JC. Most sound determining parts are the speakers.
Thank you, Robert. Recently been watching JC120 reviews. Too big for my apt. but I agree with your choice after hearing it. I don't like 'chorus' very much but the JC is not average sounding chorus.
I recently got a JC77. Best amp I've ever had.
Rivera s120 or Rivera knucklehead are amazing clean amps. Swart amps are great for clean. Of course Fender.
I love your cuts/edits. It gives you that classic Max Headroom presentation
LOL Thanks man. Other viewers give me guff about it all the time, unfortunately.
I watch, I learn. Thanks Robert.
My pleasure!
Amazed no mention of MusicMan amps. Hands down best sounding clean amp ever. I have an RD50 and it just sings sweet as you like.
JC120 is a killer amp. The Chorus on it is superb. The newer recent versions tackled the overdrive on it and it's somewhat better. Waiting to get a newer version 2nd hand.
Said the following musicians... never:
James Hetfield
Kirk Hammett
Robert Fripp
Wes Borland
Albert King,
Andy Summers (The Police),
Robert Smith (of The Cure)
Billy Duffy (The Cult, Siouxsie and the Banshees)
Pat Metheny.
Jeff Buckley
Steve Levine [producer of bands such as Culture Club, The Beach Boys and The Clash
and a lot of others
The amp is a standard in any major studio, btw
so basically you - a random nobody on the internet with... how many platinum awards did you say you have? - are complaining about "tone"?
kid, grow up. And btw, both James and Kirk use the head version live, since the 80's. :)
Couldn’t agree more David! I’ve been a die-hard Metallica fan my whole life, and James Hetfield is the reason I learned to play guitar back in the mid-80’s in the first place. I follow them closely, including their gear. They’ve BOTH had Roland JC-120 heads in their rigs for decades now.
Robert - these kids nowadays...
Says the TROLL who is absolutely hellbent on proving to everybody that he’s right and we’re all wrong. 🤦🏼♂️
The cleanest amp I've ever played was by Tone King. All it did was amplify the sound from the guitar. It had absolutely no tone, as if the EQ was just straight flat. It was great.
Hey bub when you get the chance and come across a Carvin x100b.
I had the chance to buy a carvin x100b from my guitar teacher when i started playing ..... i didn't. That is a mistake that will haunt me on my deathbed
My absolute favorite is The Fender 65 Princeton Reverb.
The Peavey Stereo Chorus 400 from the 80's is nothin' to sneeze at either.
God, I’d forgotten all about those amps. I haven’t seen one in years!
I had one of those. Incredibly loud, nice chorus and vibrato, but the EQ
wasn't very forgiving, and I had to change it all the time when I switched guitars.
I replaced it with a Peavey Classic 50 and didn't miss it at all, especially the
Scorpion speakers. After that I started building my own tube guitar amps, and
I haven't felt the need to buy a ready-made amp since.
I was coming here to brag about my Peavey Austin 400 from the 80s! It sounds amazing.
I had a peavey renown 400 in 86 that was stellar sounding on the clean channel!!.. the volume seemed to be endless as well... I should have never sold it... smh...
Evans amps are great for clean sounds. Many jazz guitarists use them... and they learned about them from pedal steel players, and you know they prefer a clean, clear tone. Really worth checking them out.
Have you ever tried a Carvin AG-100 amp. It’s a combo with push button for acoustic. I’ve had mine for 15 yeas and I still love it. Just curious if you have any thoughts.
One video of the beat clean of amps for practice in the home please! 🙏
He gave you the answer in the video- low watt amps (5-15) like the Princeton and AC15
Blue Lane Frontier the AC15 is incredibly loud, not really a bedroom amp
As soon as I started playing this video, I was waiting diligently for you to mention the Roland jazz chorus. I was about to feel really let down, until I got to number one. You got that right - the Roland is the king of clean. As for the storage and sound, everyone knows that amp kind of sucks at that, but I will note that as a recording engineer, I recorded a guitarist using a small combo amp version of this amp, a single speaker, 60 W version, and for whatever reason, the distortion on that particular amp sounded really really good. I never heard another Roland amp sound that good distorted. Maybe it’s model-specific…
Always enjoy these lists. I would probably add (3) Mesa Rectoverb 1 x12 combo, (which is also a fire-breathing Dragon), the Laney Cub & the Quilter 101 ( all Fender Princeton-like pristine Clean's ) - but all of your choices were spot-on. Great information here. oNe LovE from NYC
The Peavey Heritage is solid and the Rythym channel is parameticaly variable. The lead channel is as clean or dirt or tube scremer type sound. Both channels take stomp boxes well. It has fx FX loop, speaker Equalized Line Out, Quality spring reverb and PHASER( it was 1980).
Even in Low PowerMode it is LOUDLY LOUD yet warm and tasty. Plus, if you need to play Madison Square Garden next Wednesday, It will do the job, as it is a cathode fed 120 watts of clead Cathode fed TUBE POWER when set on High Power Mode.
Carvin Legacy VL100. An absolute underrated gem amp. Pun intended.
I don't have very much experience of guitar amps, but the best sounding clean amp I ever had was a Laney TF100. Of course it had great distortion sounds, but I loved it because its clean tones. Back then I played mostly The Shadows and The Ventures songs, and that amp fulfilled my needs perfectly.
What’s your thoughts on the blues deluxe RI
Great amplifiers, though I like the DeVille version, better. But you could do a lot worse. Country players love that amp.
Robert's Guitar Dungeon well that’s a good thing since I’m a country player lol. Just layed one away
Nice! I bet you’ll love it then!
Robert's Guitar Dungeon hope so!
Should’ve had the Fender Super-Sonic 100 on this list, probably a top 3 for cleans
As a finger picker I use a peavey Nashville 1000,nothing can touch the full range response..
Larry Cooper oohhh
I've had the AC 15 and Roland jc 120 and loved both. One that I use in the house now is the Yamaha THR1011 which also sounds great.
Great video. Thanks. I would like to just add my two cents and say that the Fender Champion, a solid state 100 watt version 212, is extremely clean sounding. Recently, I am really curious about the Marshall Origin serious. Marshall designed it to not have the highs and lows taken out like many Marshalls of today are engineered, so with the Origin there is a natural wide spectrum of sounds available. People say that the Origin sounds a little bit like a Fender.
I too, like the Champion 100. Very affordable, sounds good, not too heavy to lug around and way easier to use than the Mustang series. The only modeling amp I would ever buy but of course I haven't seen all of them.
I'm in a band backing an old school R&B vocal group. 90% of the time I need crystal clean yet sweet tones. Playing lots of staccato triads, skinny chords if you will. Most to all of my guitars/amps break up at volume.
I'm a Fender man. Maybe I need to obtain a Princeton.
What are your views on the Vox AD 30 VT ?
I'm starting to play guitar again after an injury that caused a partial amputation to my right and dominant hand.
It's been a struggle learning how to use my hand again and playing guitar. When I saw the injury to my hand, my first thought was, "My God, I can't play".
I Liked and Subscribed, Robert. Cheers.
Sorry to hear about your injury, but I’m glad to hear you’re recovery seems to be trending back in the right direction.
The AD Valvefronix were the all solid-state version of the Valvetronix amps. Not great, but not horrible. But the VT models with the tube preamps were quite a big difference in tone.
1970s Yamaha G50-112 II Pat Metheney and Mike Stern used them back in the day. Designed in part by Paul Rivera, they were Yamaha's answer to Fender's clean amps. I owned one in the 70s, foolishly got rid of it, and picked up another a couple of years ago for around $150. Headroom for days, nice overdrive (not for metal), built-in parametric EQ, and some of the most tube-like tones I've ever heard form SS.
most of rirvera but to be fair he used to work for fender.
Great review!!! Matchless are extremely clean, I use them with Fender tube amps, which all sound pretty close to each other.
The Polytone Mini brute, some Carvins...but I prefer the Twin Reverb.
DR stands for DAVE Reeves, not Dan Reeves. Hate to nitpick; surprised I'm the first one to catch that.
I currently play a Science Mother, which is a modified inspired by a DR201 circuit. . .runs 225W clean, 365W pushed hard, has a depth rotary knob similar to an FAC on an Orange, making it more bass friendly, as well as an overdrive channel that incorporates an additional tube ie 2 additional gain stages into the tone, so it ranges from beautiful Hiwatt style cleans to HIGH GAIN. Highly recommended.
My best clean sound still is my Peavey classic chorus 212 solid state
The Peavey trans tube series has surprisingly good solid state clean tones. I used to gig with a 112 EFX and a TransFormer 212. Awesome amps, took tons of abuse.
It should be said that anyone who prefers the "clean" tone from a tube amp (usually because they describe it as "warm") is actually getting a slightly overdriven sound (that's where the "warmth" comes from!) If you GENUINELY want a completely clean sound, a solid state amp like the JC (or even a digital power amp with an eq for tone shaping) is the way to go.
I've found that a lot of the Orange Amps, even the solid-states have a a great clean sound. Nice sorta jazzy sounds. The Rockerverbs and the Crush series are good with pedals too.
I couldn’t stand a single-tone that I got out of the Crush series amps. (I admit I have not heard the Crush Pro Series yet.) The Rockerverb’s got so much gain in it that the clean tone for me was ALMOST non-existent. Then I tried a Thunderverb, which has EVEN MORE gain, and it DEFINITELY didn’t have a clean sound. That said, those two amps - especially the Thunderverb - are two of the coolest metal tones I’ve heard. I’d love to have a Thunderverb, but they ain’t cheap.
I totally disagree here. I have the Rockerverb 50 MKI 6V6 with a 2x12 cab with WGS-speakers. I did a lot of preamptube swapping. The clean channel is fantastic and takes pedals really well. I play a lot of funky stuff on this channel and got many compliments on the clean sounds. Also, this channel sounds very nice with an EP-booster in front. And you know what, the drivechannel goes from almost clean!!! to an outrageous overdrive and everything in between. It has four gainstages in one driveknob and it also cleans up very well. You have to know how to use this amp and you have to spend money on quality preamptubes and powertubes. If you say the clean tone is almost non-existent you never spend serious time with this amp. A Roland Jazz Chorus sounds flat and bland in comparison to the RV MKI. My Diezel Schmidt's clean channel sounds ten times better than this solid state crap from Roland. Man, I know, I had them all.
The Jazz Chorus isn’t solid-state crap, it’s one of the most respected solid-state amps out there specifically because of its clean tone. I’ve spent plenty of time with the Rockerverbs. I spent many years working at a store that carried them and I sold them for a living. I don’t have anything bad to say about them at all, I think they’re great amps. I just don’t care for the clean tone. Couldn’t get any headroom out of it without plugging a Tele into it. Play a Schecter with Duncans in it and just wouldn’t stay clean enough loud enough for my purposes.
Lab Series 5 (Two - 12” with 100 Watts). Seriously clean sound. BB King made his Lucille sing.
Super underrated and designed by the engineers from Bob Moog's dream team of audio EEEs , under the Norlin company, of all people.
Fender twin king of clean
I have not played all these amps, but the RJC is one of the best clean amps I ever played.
Love the AC30CC2, feels like the tone is going through my hand into the neck of the guitar. Glassy tone is how I would describe it.
Ya good amps but a nightmare to drag around
I own twin, deluxe and super...all reissues. Twin without a doubt is a clean tone monster. Volume maxed clean. My deluxe and super start breaking at 6-7.
Clean is kind of a personal opinion. How much volume can you get away before breakup or if miked thru the house.
Yeah those old jazz chorus's are amazing I used 2 of them on stage, 1 for my cleans and one as my chorus through my Dumble. Iv'e moved on to Fenders for my cleans but still love those Rolands.
I have an Ampeg VT-120 combo. SUPER loud clean and you can add some beef to a thin pickup. Awesome amp when it actually works