Top 10 WORST Guitar Amplifiers EVER!
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- Top 10 WORST Guitar Amplifiers EVER!
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"I dont wanna own a booger amp"
What about Mesa Boogie lol
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Messy booger
playing with boogers as long as it has "Mesa" in front of it, which clearly is a sign of bias. the 6262 Infimum is a pretty close match up of the peavey 5150 block letter and of the more recent 6505s, not totally the same, but it is also about a grand less off the shelf for a new 6505 III+. now i can't speak for the 2x12 combo version (maybe why they don't make them anymore? hmmmmm, speakers making an amp and all) but my infinuim 6262 head into a 4x12 Marshall 1960 or even better into my Harley Benton G212V with Celestion V30's *drool* is s friggin' beast of a high gain amp and in my opinion sounds as good or better in some instances than the recent offerings from marshall, blackstar, laney, etc. this point goes even further with anyone else in the same zip code on price alone.
Behringer made a lot of improvements on the Infinium series amps. I was referring to the first generation more than anything else in this video. Those first gen Bugera amps were GARBAGE.
@@RobertWJackson Agreed. I picked up a 333xl infinium and it hasnt given up on me yet. Though it does keep blowing tubes 🤔🤔🤔
None of my amps on this list
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I hope he doesn’t do a top 15 worst
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Same here...
I watched this to see if my amp was on the list but thank god it isn’t 😂
Mines here
same, just bought a dsl15 on the budget, had some sweat goin
I hope more people find this list. We need to keep those Laney prices down.
I almost bought wiggy when I saw it in a pawn shop. Just as a piece of furniture.
Bought a kemper rack head and ooh man am I ever happy.
Edit: I have boogie and fender tube amps as well. And some Kemper profiles blow them away especially for recording.
If you want to make trve norwegian black metal, these are the amps to use.
I play classic rock and the toneblaster covers it well I really shocked it made this list
My ears hurt thinking about the last time I heard a Raven. Inducing pain in the listener would be fairly cvlt.
Don't you mean vse?
And when you want to make a true Norwegian Black Metal album cover gather a bunch of sticks in a pile.
@Jon Goat the Marshall Valvestate was my first amp. I bought it thinking, cool now i have a Marshall and a valve amp! What a piece of crap.
practice amps do not suck if you're a beginner you don't need a massive amp. it makes more sense to have a small one that you can bring around with you
Even some of these amps he doesn't like, he still has some positive feedback.
Great tone but a gap in frequency, nice tones but reliability in the jacks etc.
Good review techniques, honest and accurate.
Thanks man!
The trick to the Spider II was using the footboard with it. The presets were pretty useless, but if you knew how the amp worked (not intuitive) you could dial in useful sounds. The issue then is that you can't really utilize that without the footboard.
But there were several hidden features that Line 6 just didn't make people aware of, I guess they didn't need to since the amp sold so well anyway. But I loved the thing, I had a full stack version and a practice amp, just last year I went out and picked up another practice amp at pawn just because everything that I've bought as an "upgrade" in the 15+ years since my Spider II era just never satisfied as much.
I think most people just had no idea how to dial in a tone on them, and they were super touchy.
Agree with this; the Spider II is a great first amp as with any modeling/emulating amps from this era you can usually pick one up for about $60 shipped which gives a new player a good taste for different effects.
I absolutely agree with you...the pedalboard made all the difference! Tuning,volume control,wah-wah and the ability to hold 4 usable sounds. It took a while to dial those usable sounds in!
What were the hidden features?
Im in Australia And this piece of sh... turned me off playing it disillusioned me from finding an amp that had a great tone ..... the music store which was the only one for a good distance around looking back was full of clueless salemans and the amps that were tube i'm positive were horrible sounding as they must of hadtheir tubes woren to the bone . But i digress the line 6 spider as are most non valve amps ...bad but i was sold on the line 6 beautiful design and exterior the great knobs and i guess the great name spider ..and that i never owned an amp before . terrible amp
I can only assume that you had burst ear drums from it, because I can assure you that to everybody else it sounded dogshit. Have you seen "Mars Attacks"? I would only use one as a boat anchor
anyone remember crate amps
billpepper the Blue voodoo was a cool amp! Their best imo.
There was some very good sounding crate heads. Back around 1987 don't remember what model numbers but I remember seeing a head or two in more than one studio. LMFAO
those crate solid state practice amps are good for one thing and one thing only. Drenching them in gasoline and watching them burn. Some of the Crate tube amps, however, surprisingly hold up.
Had a G40C gigged with it a lot! Back in the day!
I have a 1978 Crate CR-1 without distortion or reverb and I need to make some repairs to fix the signal path. 20 watts with a line out and a single channel 20watts, sounds decent just needs some restoration work
Say what you want about Kustom amps, but many Motown artists, Creedence Clearwater Revival, The Jackson 5, Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins, and Roy Clark would disagree. In the 60s, Kustom was one of the better quality makers around. Maybe they just didn't age so well?
but but but they don't METAL therefore they must suck! LOL
I think people are sleeping on those amps because guitar culture has deemed them to not be "worthy."
But, I agree with your point entirely.
@@johnlawrence7403 the coupe deville reissue in like 02 or 03 , somewhere in that decade they came back out with the 2 12 coupe deville tuber and shit , I freaking adore mine
1960s amps... Kustom vs marshall or Fender, Orange, Ampeg, Gibson, Vox... There is no question Kustom was one of the "Top" amp brands... Laughable
The old Kustom amp company is gone. The name is sold to someone else and the amp line really has no links to the originals. That said, the modern Kustom coupe tube amp amp sounds great.
Careful now, I play Kustom, they make great distorted amps. Admittedly I've had mine refurbed and installed a new speaker but it's still a beast of an amp with spring reverb built in.
In the early 80s I tried a laney 1x12 closed back combo. Lots of tight bottom end. I traded some gear for it. My band was gigging a couple of times a month. At each use, the volume would swell from set volume, down to nothing for half a minute, then back up. The dealer sent it out and was told it looked like it had been run over by a truck, on the inside, and repair would be a few hundred bucks. I was offered store credit and I took that.
The ID Core is exactly the amp you say you're going to exclude from your list. I have an ID Core and as a bedroom/practice amp, it's great. Also have a 50W Line6 Spider II, and you're 100% correct. The clean channels boosted with a TS9 Tube Screamer can produce an OK sound, the distortion channels are brittle and unusable.
ALL that John Fogerty/ Creedence stuff was brought to you by the boys in ''Chanute Kansas''
I really like my Kustom, and its 3-12 cab. A lot of them suffered from (as almost all amps) Electrolytic Capacitor failures . Replace those, clean your pots and plug it into a slab of mahogany with p-90's and your ready to ramble tamble to green river as your friends hear it through the grapevine.
dantheglassman642004 John was famous for Rickenbackers though?
The feeling I get is that they probably supplied backlines to bands for next to nothing back in the 70s, as I've seen some pretty big bands using them in the videos from that era. I didn't think their tone was that bad either..
Yes......I don't have a Rick though.... I was referring to my LP junior
I saw Fogerty live several years ago and he was playing a PRS through a JCM 900. I've seen him playing live in a lot of videos and he uses a lot of different gear. I may be wrong, but I don't ever recall him using Fender guitars. Amps yes, but not guitars. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
I did not see videos or pictures of it but I’ve read somewhere an interview of Fogerty saying he used a Telecaster.
Great series! I laughed when I saw the Kustom amps. My cousin in Alabama was a great player and had a series of Kustoms he played his Gretsch through. The tuck-and-roll was great for throwing in his car because it wouldn't scuff up his interior. I bought a 1969 Fender Pro Reverb in 1995 and thought I had overpaid at $725. What a nice sound. Not exactly "portable." Wish I had bought more equipment when I was younger. Time flies. Enjoy it while it lasts...
One time in the late 60's I played a gig using Kustom Amps because a store donated them for us to use and buy you are correct these are the worst amps I have ever heard or played thru !!! Garbage Amps
At least you got them for free lol
Yep! I had a black Kustom 200 tuck and roll amp back in about ‘69 or ‘70.... Expensive, and not worth the money!
The Blackstar ID Core series may be blah, but the original ID:TVP series sounds phenomenal.. I've had pro players come up to me in shock that it was a "modelling" amp (which it's not really - it's modelling power tube types, not specific amps). They've just released the Silverline series which is supposed to be an upgrade to the ID:TVP, but I'm not going to run out and get one just yet as my ID:260 TVP can compete all day long.
This guy sux, amp that bob
ah the awesome Spider II..... i used to love mine and thought it sounded awesome... but i also couldn't play so didn't realise just how awful it really was.... Couldn't bring myself to sell it and make someone else suffer through that pain... still sat in my garage unused... probably pushing 10+years now... might turn it into a table.... it might look cool then
That was my first amp... I turned everything up to 10 on the insane channel. I thought I sounded like Zack Wylde...I actually sounded like a dying cat.
hahaha I'm tempted to dig the spider out of my garage, see if it works and see just how bad it sounds
I LOVE YOUR HONESTY. HONEST IS ALMOST GONE WITH THE DODO BIRD. IT IS VERY REFRESHING TO READ YOUR STATEMENT. ROCK ON.
JOE DIRT I wish someone was honest with me when I bought the damn thing I’d have skipped straight over it and gone for the peavey they also had, although was more expensive
HA----I SUCK LONG STORY WHY BUT I WAITED A LONG TIME TO BUY A TC-50 COMBO (BY MESA BOOGIE)AT MY AGE NOW IT WILL BE THE LAST AMP I WILL EVER BUY. THANKS FOR THE LAUGH ALSO HAVE A GOOD WEEK.
Today, for the price of a months worth of Starbucks coffee, I bought a used Line 6 AX2 212 TubeTone Amp for USD $120, which included the Line 6 Pedalboard, and a DIY hardback binder of the manual, and other printout reference sheets.
The Amp itself has like three of four small blemishes on the grill cloth, but the rest of the amp is in pristine condition, and after a few hours with it, works perfectly.
I've gone through many many amps, and still have quite a handful of amps and I have to say, this old amp which was made in 1998 or so, sounds better than even my newer modelling amps, and darn near as loud as my all tube Marshall 40 watt combo. A gem of a find. and i have always wanted this amp, too. The amazing thing is, that I did own a Line 6 catalyst, and this 26 year old amp STILL sounds better than some of their newer stuff.
I used a 4 10 combo kustom amp playing gigs for 8 years. Yes, I had to go thru the internals and redo a lot of solder joints. I was fixing consumer electronic for a day job . Most of the trouble was the pcb mounting had no shock protection, mounted direct to the chassis, which was screwed tight to the cabinet. Any real jolt would be problematic. Clean headroom on my 150 watt combo was good. This was 72 til 80. I used a wan, dynacomp, early univox fuzz, and a foxx tone machine volume overdrive. Sounded great
When I worked retail in the 80's we had the Jackson/Charvel line and Jackson made a red stack amp that was the worst semi-expensive amp I ever heard and still decades later holds true . It sounded like dead power tubes when they were new , all middle , the bass and treble were useless . I know they belong on that list .
Damn that "music" in the background is dreadful
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@@RobertWJackson you are most welcome, but its still shocking "music"
I was actually referring to FalconerPhoto.
@@RobertWJackson lol ah i see
@@scampthelazycat9891 the guitar and instruments were actually well played and composed, the song itself was rather strange and “used car lot commercial” esque I’ll admit lol
I have a Line 6 Spider Jam amp. I bought it after a friend of mine demonstrated all the backing tracks it came loaded with and the recording capabilities it has. It's fun to fool around with and practice with, and I have used it at a few like small gigs where room was a problem, (like coffee shop setting) so I could also use it as a PA, but I always just used the clean channel with my guitar because the modeling or effects don't sound that great. So, anyway my point is--yes the Spider amps are good but a lot of the effects/modeling stuff are not that good--fun for practice in MHO, but kind of sucky for dialing in that tone you might be looking for.
I had a Laney AOR head and loved it. But I run EQ and pedals separately so I would have never used that push pull feature. He's right. Excellent tones. But I needed the LP I traded for it more at the time. It was the white Laney Pro AR 100.
I've been re-tubing Marshall style tube amps since about 1982 or so. I've only ever used Groove Tubes. I learned how to rebias "American" 6550 Marshalls so that they could run EL-34's from Aspen Pittman's "Tube Amp Handbook". Most of the guitar players I know use some variation of either a 50 or 100 W Marshall style head and a 4x12 cabinet. I did run across a Kustom TRT 100 about 8 years ago. The guitar player that owned it brought it to me to see if we could do anything to improve the way it sounded. At the time GrooveTubes was still owned by Aspen Pittman, not Fender. There is a guy named Myles Rose that is the guitar amp tech to the stars and he ran GT's Special Applications Group department. I delt with Myles pretty regularly and hit him up for suggestions on the TRT 100. The TRT 100 actually has 2 switchable tube preamp sections. We ended up putting a SAG Marshall High Gain kit in one of the preamps and a SAG Fender Soft Touch kit in the other preamp. We put a quartet of "S3" 6L6 tubes instead of EL-34's into the output section. To this day that was the best sounding "Marshall" style amp, I have ever heard. When I was testing it I was running it into a 4x12 cabinet from the mid-seventies that had original 25W greenbacks in it. The amps owner had a Peavey 4x12 cab that had 65W speakers and the amp sounded terrible with that cab.
“I’ve only ever used groove tubes” is like saying “I only eat out of trash cans”
ryan heinrich stated "“I’ve only ever used groove tubes” is like saying “I only eat out of trash cans”"
I'm not sure if you understood what I was implying but it sounds like you think Groovetubes are trash. That's funny. It sounds like you don't know as much about tubes as you think you know. I've tried dozens of brands of tubes. I've tried brands like JJ, EH, Sovtek, Svetlana, JSC Voskhod, Reflector and other Russian tubes with names I don't recall, a bunch of Chinese tubes and many NOS GE's and Mullards. GrooveTubes bought the dies and the equipment and remaining stock of materials used to manufacture Mullard 12AX7's and some GE preamp tubes. GT sells a new 12AX7 Mullard style tube (GT-12AX7-M) made with this equipment so that they can guarantee the quality of the tube. GT also manufactures the GT EL34 which is based on the original Mullard EL34 of the ‘60s - the stock tube in all early Marshall and Hiwatt amps. Mullard produced it for about 15 years, and this is a faithful reproduction of the classic XF2 dual-getter version. I have certainly purchased some NOS tubes that sounded fantastic but they are very expensive and you can't always find them. I can get GrooveTubes and they are always consistent. I only buy and recommend GrooveTubes from the Special Applications Group (SAG). Just slapping a random set of GrooveTubes in a guitar amp will not make it sound better. You have to choose the right tube for the amp and right tube for the sound and style of playing you intend to get. Top guitar players and top builders use GrooveTubes. Myles Rose of Guitaramplifierblueprinting.com has been using GT for decades. He is the person responsible for starting the SAG at GT. I would love to know who you think supplies better quality tubes. The following artist and this is a very small portion of the full list, make enough money to choose any tube they want and they use GT. Maybe you should let these artist know about your "trash can" discovery. Aerosmith, Bryan Adams, Warren Hayes and Dicky Betts of the Allman Brothers, members of Dwight Yoakum's band, Alabama, Ted Nugent, Tommy Shaw, Chuck Berry, Steve Stevens, Buddy Guy, Mike Campbell, Vivian Campbell, Eric Clapton, Robert Cray, Ry Cooder,George Thorogood, David Gilmore, Billy Gibbons, Jeff Healy, Alan Holdsworth, Dan Huff, Tony Iommi, Eric Johnson, Kiss, Krokus, George Lynch, George Massenberg, Metalica, Steve Morse, Little Feat, Motley Crue, Judas Priest, Prince, Bonnie Raitt, Lee Ritenour, The Scorpions, Brian Setzer, Lynard Skynard, Talking Heads, Tesla, UFO, Joe Walsh, Hank Williams Jr., Steve Vai, Brad Paisley,and Eddie Van Halen.
Guitar World had an article, may be 1990 or 19991, talked about Mullard and a couple of the American tube machines were sold to China. EPA rules put the American tube industry out of business as it had US Steel. The industry did not die from a lack of interest in the product. May be Guitar World got it wrong. I don't know.
Tube machines feed parts and material to a person running the machine. Each tube is built by a person guiding the machine. One machine has multiple stations. Multiple people build multiple tubes at the same time. Tube building/construction is NOT an automated process.
The list of players you list as GT users simple means that GT supplied them with tubes at some point in time, which allows GT to say those players use them. Thats Marketing 101.
Groove Tubes, Tube Amp Doctor, Ruby, Mesa, Marshall and others grade and re-lable tubes. They often contract for certain tubes to be built to certain specification, but they do not build their own tubes. These companies buy JJ, EH, Genelex Gold Lion, Soviet and others in huge lots, test and grade to their standards the re-label the tubes to their brand name. JJs are usually re-labled and marked with CZ. GT-E34Ls are obviously JJ. GT EL34-Ms are copies of the old Mullard XF2 EL34s. TAD contracts for an EL34 that has elements of XF2 and XF4 old Mullards. New Mullard EL34s are copies of XF4 old Mullards. Tubes that fail testing, are thrown out if dead, or resold cheaply back into the open market.
There are companies like Doug's Tubes and Tube Depot that do testing and grading but do not re-label. I really like the GTs in my Fender Blues Deluxe. I use highly tested new Mullards in my JCM 2000 100watt Marshall TSL. I use TAD EL34s in my 410HJS 100 watt Marshall. I want to try the GT-EL34-Ms one day. I suspect they won't disappoint me!
Groove Tubes does not build ALL of their tubes but they do in fact build some models of their tubes. I have provided links below that describe the equipment and materials GT acquired to manufacture some models of the tubes they sell. Click on the link below titled "Making tubes in the USA at Groove Tubes."
If you are a guitar player and really care about how tubes affect your tone, download and read the Tube Primer. It is split into 2 documents.
www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/Tubeprimerandselection330.pdf
www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/Tubeprimerandselection320-2.pdf
This is the main page for Myles Rose's website:
www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/index2.html
From Myles Rose of guitaramplifierblueprinting.com
Over time I have heard comments in regard to the higher cost of Groove Tubes own tube offerings and comments that they sell the same tubes as everybody else and just stick their name on them. In some cases, they do sell the same tubes, but the GT logo does not go on the tube until the tube goes through their own unique testing process.
If you think all of this is hype and does not matter, that is your opinion, and either you are open to additional information or not. There are tubes like the new USA GT 6L6GE, that whether you think it is great or not, you may want to give it a listen before you jump on the word of some lone individual. Perhaps look to see what tube folks like Eddie use in his 5150s. Whether you like his music or not, its hard to miss that he has either a firm understanding of tone and a matched output section or he is pretty darn lucky. He can get his harmonics and sounds anywhere on the fretboard.
On the subject of the same tubes, there are differences worth noting. Many tubes are made by the world's tube factories to specific GT designs and specifications. Some of these are the KT-66HP (which at first glance looks much like the Chinese variant, but is not made in China), the GT-E34LS which comes from the JJ factory but is not the same tube as the JJ E34L (look at the plate assembly), notice the heat sinks on the plates of the GT version), and other tubes such as GT's own, USA self-made 6L6GE. The KT-88SV is a different tube in regard to plate assembly as another example. These are all tubes built off GT developed and produced tooling.
This article references the reissue of the GT6L6GE which is a faithful reproduction of the famous General Electric 6L6 "clear top" power tube.
In 1998, Groove Tubes purchased from Richardson the original critical materials and machines GE used to produce both the GE6L6 and GE6CA7 (aka EL34), along with the original production processing formulas. In other words, Groove Tubes was able to acquire the recipe, the original ingredients, and the kitchen too! Next, several original GE vendors were enlisted to faithfully reproduce many of the internal components. For example, the company who made the original mica insulators has provided the identical part, on new tooling from original GE drawings. Also, the special plate designs are made on the same vintage 4 slide machines and are identical to the original parts, using the original GE plate material that is no longer in production. GT was able to purchase enough original GE plate material for many years of production. This special multi-layered alloy formula appears a soft dull gray after heat processing and gives this tube it's soft, warm tone...as well as contributing to its superior power
performance.
Full article here:
www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/groovetubes.html
Making tubes in the USA at Groove Tubes.
Pictures of the original machines used by GE and purchased by GT
www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/gttubes.html
Preamp tubes and the importance of matched phase inverters (MPI)
www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/GTlink.html
I've used GT's ever since the mid-80's as well when they were the go to selection for most and that's what the stores stocked. IMO they are/were the Budweiser of tubes tonally and very popular because of the early branding and marketing, but IMO they fail far too often (especially for the price), are tonally bland (see Budweiser comment), and my most recent dealing with them, were poorly matched. I've been using JJ's since the early 2000's (GT repackages these same JJ Czechoslovakia built tubes as theirs for some tube types as well, but don't select and match them as well as the main JJ supplier does) and my experience with them at every level is superior to the old GT's which I still have a few lying around. The JJ's have thicker glass and just a much more robust build structure and quality and typically handle a bit more power. The 6L6's, 6550's and especially the KT-88's are tonally awesome. By comparison, the old GT's looked like they break if a farted on them. Now, there are some old obscure NOS tubes out there that are real nice as well (if you can find them and afford them) that are also tonally superior to GT's depending on the sound you're looking for of course.
BTW: Grove tubes hasn't made tubes since 2008 when the San Fernando factory closed, so if you think they still making any you are mistaken. They are simply a middleman business owned by Fender that only tests, grades and matches tubes from sources in, Europe, Russia and China.
My first bass amp was a Kustom 150 with the 2-12 cabinet in that funk blue color. I had a matching bass in the same psychedelic colors and it had flat wound strings and weighed a ton!!!! loved it!
Used the kustom 3 15' bass cabinet for death metal vocals at the end of the 80's.Brutal lows
I think the Wiggy looks retro in a late 50's and early 60's way.
The Bugera 1960 Infinium is a really great sounding amp head.
I was VERY reluctant to buy it because I have had several bad experiences with Behringer over the last couple of decades, but that amp is incredible for $400.
Plug in a strat, select neck pickup, and you have THAT sound.
Does it sound exactly like a Plexi? I doubt it, especially considering that not all vintage Marshall Plexis sound alike to begin with, but it sounds damned good for $400.
Of course I am running through a proper British Marshall 4X12 though, I wouldn't touch those Bugera cabinets with a ten foot pole.
Don't let a bad experience with a first generation Bugera keep you from this monster.
I actually think Bugera pulled their heads out of their asses with the updated Infinium stuff. I have no problem with Bugera whatsoever. (I made fun of their name in the video strictly as a joke. LOL) But That first generation of their amps SUCKED.
I've got a Booger V22 and V5 Infinium, the lead channel on the V22 is not great but the clean is a good pedal platform. I love them, never had any issues with either.
You're just experiencing the Behringer R&D philosophy: wire some random wires together, put it in a box and see what people think. Then go to version 2 and knock it out of the park. I remember the UNFATHOMABLY awful 300W bass head they first came out with, my university were suckered into buying one for the music room and literally every bass player brought their own amps to practice there xD The octave pedal made for a good standup comedy routine though. EDIT: Almost forgot the Orange Micro and Micro Terror, which are almost as good as the Joyos, only reason I don't rate them so highly is the awkward scoop knob rather than a real tone knob, and the lack of cab simulated headphone output (Orange has unusable headphone outs)
I got a Bugera 6660 with a Mesa cab with V30's and it sounds good. Currently I play death metal and it sounds good. Regards from Mexico.
TheChamp I’ve got the V55 older non infinium version. I love the thing. Such great dimension to the clean sound it’s really nice. I wouldn’t trust it gigging or traveling But it sits in my little studio and sounds really great. Never had a problem with it and I bought it used.
There was a work around for the laney. I bought a used one when I was around 16 and the guy had modded it. Still have it today. Still sounds great.
So the trick with my particular Laney AOR 50 series 1, an 8 knob in specific, is to pull out either the treble or mod pot and dial in presence medium to high. Through an orange cab, it seems to bring it to life.
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When you find 2 you've had here. 😔😔
If you believe in your amp and have talent; either God given at birth or acquired over time, then most likely others will too.
I disagree with your assessment of the tuck and roll original Kustom amps. I was there when they came out and our band used the PA system and the huge Bass amp. Never had a minutes trouble with them and they sounded fine and had plenty of power. Then again, we weren't Distortion Freaks back then. I have a K50 from 1970 and I love it. For Jazz and Pop, they are fine amps. For Chainsaw Music, not so much.
Yeah I think you got it right - they weren't distortion freaks back then. Depends what you want from the amp. Creedence used them exclusively on stage - just a good down to earth 100w amp. Each amp has several 'sounds' each different from competitors or they wouldn't sell. I like the sound and found them pretty good - just not as popular as some others. Solid state - pretty good for the day.
Kustom amps weren't actually under-powered - they were over-named! Kustom named their amps based on the peak power, as Peavey also did early on. So a Kustom 200 was basically a 100w RMS machine. Once you understood that marketing BS, the Kustoms gave every inch of that RMS power, and reliably, IMO.
Don't hate 'em just because they had a stupid naming system, looked funky and dated (even back then), and had limited tone capabilities! :)
I have a 20 watt Traynor tube combo that I really like but the reverb is a little weak, any experience with them? I also own a Fender Deville and you, IMHO, can't beat its reverb
Whenever an amp has excessive built-in effects. Stay far away!
Yes... those effects are always digital and therefore rubbish. Moral of the story... stay away from digital.
I don’t agree with that. I love digital delay and digital reverb. The Boss DD-7 is my all-time favorite delay pedal. (No, I have not yet tried the new DD-8.) Analog has its place, but so does digital.
Boss katana mk2 50?
Okay. There are some good digital effects. EH 16 sec delay is good. But on an amp. No.
I love my Vox modeling amp, even though i also own a great tube amp
Graphic eq's help a lot with low mid and high frequencys
I have a Blackstar ID Core v2 and I love it. It does it all and it all sounds good, especially if you tweak it with the computer app.
I’ve got a Marshall Valvestate 8100 and I love it for metal! The cleans are pretty decent on it only obstacle with this amp I find is the boost/high gain channel has a tendency to sound like a swamp in the distance or sounding overly contoured, it’s my first stack so I’m enjoying it. I look forward to getting a better amp and cabinet.
Use the Valvestate clean with your gain pedals and when you use the gain from the amp use a BBE Stomp
The Kustom Tuck & Roll was around in the late 90's and 00's too
How about flip it and do the 10 best cheap practice amps? :)
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The Roland Micro Cube better be on it! It was my first guitar amp and still my favorite practice amp.
Robert's Guitar Dungeon do tiny tube amps count? like the Blackstar HT1/HT5, Orange Micro Terror and the Joyo Bentamp series?
Yep, those count!
I picked up a used Peavey Rage from the early 90's for $20. I was really surprised at how decent the tones were at bedroom levels.
I'm totally crushed now. I'm 56 and my whole life has been spent trying to find a Kustom Bass stack!!! 1. for the collectibly, 2. It's so cool, 3. they were bad ass, 4. so retro, 5.classic styling, 6. great tone, 7. total punch, 8.tons of raw power. Now you got me thinking i'm heading down the wrong path.....
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Don’t second guess yourself just because I don’t like them. If you dig them, get one! Although, I don’t know how collectible they really are. They’re not really very expensive at all on the vintage market.
Don't be. His hate on Kustoms, is lack of knowledge and his personal opinion only!
Kustom actually a good bass amp, guitar not so much
I HAVE A 1966 AMPEG B 15 WITH TUBES. ALSO I HAVE A HAGSTROM BASS FROM 1966. THEY SERVED ME WELL PLAYING INA ROCK BAND BACK THEN.
I had a Kustom from that era, '70, '71. It had a 100 watt head. The cabinet had a 15" speaker, and a 15" horn. A high frequency horn. I was in my mid teens, and totally clueless about guitar tone. But I remember pretty much never using my bridge pickup with that amp.
Sure wish I could time travel back to that era, knowing what I know now, but still looking as hot as I did when I was 16. Dream on, Old Dude...
My all tube Kustom 36 Coupe 2X10 Black Roll and Tuck has served me well for years at small venues. The clean tone is magnificent and the gain is killer. Reverb is deep and rich. Eminence speakers sound great and lots of head room for a combo. I realize you were talking more about the older Kustoms, but I'm here to tell ya, they impressed me with this baby. I just wished you could have mentioned the 36 Coupe 2X10 or 12". Maybe even the 72 Coupe 2X12 combo. Anyway thx.
I had a long winded and tactful response pertaining to how you may be wrong about the Wiggy, Kustoms and the Laney amps... But you seem a bit biased, which is fine because this is your channel, not mine. BTW I 100% agree and applaud you for the Marshall you added to the list.
I have a Kustom 250-4 that I use as my one and only bass amp along with an Ampeg SVT 15" cab. The tone circuit is precisely similar to Fender and a lot of people have borrowed it from me, all of whom offered to buy it.
wiggys rule, owned several, dont anymore but if i could i would.
I got a Marshall TSL 60 watt head and 1960 Lead 4x12 recently, sounds fantastic with my Schecter Syn Gates Custom
Hey there Robert, another great video, I have hopefully 2 easy to answer questions, I have a Blackstar ht5r, and it had great reviews, my issue is that its sound is so muddy, have you had any experience with these amps? And how to clean up sound ? I also have the Blackstar ht 40 and absolutely love this amp but the 2 amps sound completely different, and not what I expected from ht-5r, my other question is about the washburn A-20 Carlos Cavazo of quiet riot used to play one of these back in early 80's (and is only person I know played an A-20), I would like to buy one any advice you can pass on bout this guitar would be great, i apologize for long question, thanks Ed
Unfortunately I don’t have much to offer on either of those. I’ve played the HT5R’s before, but I didn’t experience any muddiness coming from them. Usually if that happens, it usually means you need to back off on either the bass control or the gain control or both. As for the A-20, that was Washburn’s Explorer model, basically. I’ve played a few of them over the years. Cool guitars as long as you can find one that’s not too banged up.
I bought an a20 at a pawn shop in Chicago by Wrigley field way back in the 90's. It had a telecaster type wiring, 1 volume, 1 tone with a 3 way switch. They have a v shaped neck that took me a while to get used to. I replaced all the electronics, because they were old and crackling, with new pickups and coil splitting controls.
I have a Blackstar ID core 100 watt and I love it.
Atomic Apocalypse same man
Atomic Apocalypse i prefer the id (not core) 150 head. Returned my id core 2×10 which I believe was 100 Watts. Found a Diezel 4X12 for 700 do that otobably helped the tone alot lol
Same
I have the Blackstar Beam for home use and I love it.
i have the idcore 10 and with the insider software you can make it sound good, my main amp is a TVP260 but i use the iD10 for pratice as its wayyyy lighter.
I liked the 50 watt combo version of the Ibanez Toneblaster.
You hit the nail on the head about the Laney bass. That is why I sold mine. I was told that there were some mods that would correct it that were put out by Laney. And the cascading takes a lot of time to dial in.
I remember years ago having a Marshall MG 102 solid state. It was my first "Proper amp" it was a 100w solid state 2x12 combo and it was an absolute peice of shit on the dirty channel. Cost me nearly £400 which is alot of money when you're about 16-17 and I saved for ages. It was only good for the clean channel and it hated pedals.
I don't know what the newer ones are like but it was absolute pure junk. It would just randomly stop outputting sound and you had to reset the amp which was apparently a common problem.
The fan keeping it cool would stop randomly and the god awful distortion was a noisey mess.
Don't even get me started on the speakers.
I like the AOR Laneys! I'm a single coil guy so the big bass is good for me, singles stay clear with more bottom. I also think the Bogner Alchemist sounds amazing, they remind me of the Steve Via Carvin Legacys. The first ones might have had reliability issues but they fixed that. The 2x12 is a great sounding amp with one of the best clean channels on a channel switching amp.
I had a Line6 spider and I agree it sucked, the MA Marshall does too. I agree with most of his list, I've never owned one but playing through them those "Booger-a" :-) amps seem to have improved a lot although I wouldn't buy the 6262, maybe a V55 or 1960 head if it was a good price. I actually have thought about picking up a Bugera 1960 for a modding platform if 1 it was a later infinium model and 2 it was a really cheap price.
I sold my AOR for a Traynor YBA-1. I miss my 50 watter in a sense because it’s such a unique tone. I could totally see this being a amp for single could. It played nice with my P90s.
Hey, Credence Clearwater and the Revivals used (or at least appeared on TV with) Kustom tuck 'n' roll amps. Mine had dual JBL D130 15" speakers in it, the absurd efficiency of which made it LOUD. One night we played a club that had a very narrow stage with a riser that went all along the back so that the drummer went in the middle of the riser and our amps went on either side of the drummer. This had the effect of placing my amp right at ear-level for me. "Dear God!" I thought, "is this what I've been doing to the poor bastards in the front row all this time?" Bad amps, bad music, bad food, sleeping in the van . . . those were the days.
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Have to put a kind word in for Bugera. Their quality has vastly improved in the last ten years. I own the V-22, the dreaded blue light model. I’ve had it for ten years and no issues. It has a beautiful lush clean tone and is a very good base tone for pedals. Add a Wampler and you get the best Marshall sound outside of a plexi. I also own a Bugera 5W and I play it as much as I do my Fender ‘57 Champ reissue. Best tube practice amp for the money, IMHO. YMMV, but Bugera does not deserve a lot of the hate sent its way.
KillingerDOOM I had the tubes swapped soon after I bought it. Knock on wood as far as the capacitors are concerned.
Garbage
Traded in the 200 watt Black Star half stack for a Bulgera xxl combo 2 x12 tube 100 watt after playing it for almost an hour. Not only is it easy to dial in it fits in the car and keeps up with the big boys. Thats was 2014 havnt budged either since. I bought used at GC $330 USD now a days $450 and up easily.
I've had the 6262 infinium combo and loved it..
I've been playing a Bugera g20 into a Marshall 212 for years. No issues and it sounds great, plugged straight in, no pedals needed. 😊
My first amp was a line 6 spider classic 15 boosted with a cheap $21 distortion Pedal (kokko distortion), took me about 2 in a half years to perfectly dial it in, now after almost 4 years of owning it, I'm already looking for a half stack
I think the 60s/70s Traynor YBs and YGs are the most underrated amps of all -with the right late breaking tubes and care -they make an unreal guitar experience -throw in some of the old Acoustic Amplification Amps too
Shhhhh... Don't let everyone in on the secret. We can keep the prices down on these guys a while longer and sell our hoard off in a decade or so from now. :-)
That's a great point. I will stand down.
You could mention the hidden cost of a blizzard of chiropractic and physio bills in their future; that might discourage them. My first amp, back in the early 70s, was a Traynor. We all had them. They were everywhere. I don't remember the specific model, but mine was essentially a Fender Twin Reverb, that was the target market. They can sound great, but those MFs are not light.
Ha -agree -if you want beauty sometimes you have to lug the load. Although I refuse to lug a twin anymore -Deluxe or AC15 for me. 1968 Deluxe is the desert island amp of amp history IMO -most versatile most tone combo ever.
I have a Traynor YB-1
one of the biggest problems we faced in the late 60-s and 70s was theft, i was in a band we were backing up ELO in Vancouver canada, to our horror someone stoled some of our amps, there were some of those kustom amps which were relatively new at the time we ended up having to use, what a pile of crap, but at that time it seemed like everyone was trying to jump on the bandwagon, of bigger is better, i still today , like the twin reverb fender with a couple of old-time Lansing speakers in a box as my favorite sound, i belive that the old tube amps coupled with a old fender, or les paul, works for me every time,
I have had 5-6 different amp over the years (Peavey, Crate), now I own a Blackstar. I find the Blackstar sounds pretty decent - so not sure why you disliked that one so much. Maybe with a super small speaker, they (like the ID Core 10), they don't sound great ? I have the ID Core 40.
Exactly. Of course it sounded bad, it was just a practice amp. ID did a great job emulating tubes, but not for me purely because of no send return ports so not good for personal pedals, everything is on their proprietory footswitch and software.
One of my bass player friends had an old 2x15 silver kustom tuck & roll amp/cab.
I remember it being very loud... But not good.
I think it shocked me once or twice while using it.
I had a Peavey T-Max 500 plugged into a Peavey 1x15 black widow & an Eden Nemesis 2x10.
Man the late 90's early 2000s were awesome.
I think a great challenge would be to pick the bad sounding amps up and coax a good sound out.
I'm sure just seeing those Kustom Amps/PA's made a lot of people think back to their first high school garage band. They weren't the greatest and I've never gotten more electrical shocks from anything else in my life, but there was ALWAYS a used set at your shady local music store/Pawn Shop or in the Want Ads for CHEAP.
Holy cow, remember Want Ads?
The three worse I've run across are 1) The original version of the Fuchs Blackjack 21. Anaemic sounding, no breakup even if dimed despite being loosely based on a Trainwreck, poor construction and quality control 2) Carr Hammerhead. Everything you didn't like about early Mesa Boogie Mark series. Difficult to set up, harsh-sounding. Just not a fan. 3) Genz Benz Black Pearl. Poor quality control. Poor sounding. 4) Any "red knob" Fender.
I'd argue that the Mesa Boogie sounds even more like booger than Bugera.
I love my Honeytone $25 amp. I use it for recording. I got some friends to admit they liked my guitar tones on some songs and then I told them it was all Honeytone. I got silence and disbelief.
Jim Belanger I got a broken amp. For 5$ and someone thought I was using an amp sim
Say what you want about line6 but my hd500 has been rock solid and if Steve Howe uses one live it's good enough for me.
ArielsSmartyPants He was referring to the spider series...check out my reply
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Not that I give this guy any credit as an authority on what sucks and what doesn’t suck, he didn’t criticize Line6, he only criticized the Line6 Spider2. I had a Spider3 75watt practice amp, sounded pretty good but the motherboard fried after only a year or so and rendered my $300 lost forever, shoulda bought the warranty. Total loss. However, my Line6 4x12 half stack is awesome, great tone, running strong after 4 yrs, i would put it up against a Marshall any day.
Tony South Dakotah anything is better than marshall
Fredrik Svärd do you mind if I ask.. what do you dislike about Marshalls? I had to have my JCM 900 modified for more gain but have had it for years and love it.
@@realtruenorth 70's 50 watt Marshall head is hard to beat. The VS 100 head is underrated and surprisingly great, and can be bought used for very cheap
I bought a Marshall AVT50h a couple years ago and paired it with my 1960a cabinet. I've never been able to get it to sound good. I had heard it took pedals well and was great for metal. I just replaced it with a Marshall DSL100h. Much happier now.
I gigged with an avt50 head for years. I did like the sound better than solid state Marshall's, but it only had 1 tube in the preamp section so....not much of a tube amp. It did take pedals well, I used a digitech rp series pedal for different amp models, made it much more versatile.
I personally really liked the Spider series. When i was a kid and first learning guitar, I received a Spider 2 for Christmas and i was in hog heaven. It makes for a pretty cool practice in my opinion.
Don't get me wrong. Does it sound like my Fryette Pitbull Ultralead? Hell to the no, but i have a nostalgia spot for em.
I don't understand the larger IDCore series, I think the small one you talk about with a carry strap and multiple effects is very handy and wouldn't expect it to sound any better than the amps you said you wouldn't cover in this because you expect them to sound bad right? so why cover that one? I thought it would be excluded right?
That being said, I don't know why they have the big expensive ones and might agree they should be on the list... also have you ever played through an IDCore Beam? It's as small but the cabinet is designed to also function as an MP3 player, you can play acoustic, bass etc... It's an amazing practice amp, has bluetooth to play songs through and has the bass response the other small ones lack, but it's not cheap. It's the only IDCore I really love but as noted, $99 new with a strap for the others, what do we expect right?
I'm with ya on all the others!
The ID Core is a great amp! The stereo speakers make the effects sound huge! The models are decent and it is a great practice amp at 99 bucks. Probably the best at that price infact.
I have the 100 watt head version and it sounds decent. It's not a tube head that's for sure, but good for shows due to its light weight.
He said ID series but I think he was referring to the core line. I've never played one so I cant say how they sound, but the ID TVP series solid state amps sound very good. It doesn't have tube feel, but the tube modeling concept is very cool. It does give you an introduction into how different tube produce headroom. And I get great tone out of it. Not a tube amp but for the money the TVP's are great solid state amps imo.
Yes! You have to get one with the stereo speakers in it. It’s sounds really good for a small practice amp
i have an id core that i picked up on the secondary market so i can play in my apartment. i thought it would be worse, but its ok with headphones on. that said, i replaced it with a UA Ox Box. lol! one extreme to another.
Makes a great DI to Pro Tools to. Sounds kinda like Marshall after a few adjustments. if you layer the tracks its pretty beefy to the average listener as well.
15:25 I actually bought a Raven RG100H from a pawn shop the other day for $90. Got it home and hooked it up and Channel 1 had a nasty hum to it, like it was blown or something. Channel 2 was clean at first. Kept it overnight to see if I could get the gremlins out of it. By the next day, Channel 2 now had just as bad a hum to it as Channel 1. The whole thing sounded like it was about to die. So I took it back and got my money back. Ended up getting a Behringer GMX212 modelling amp and hooking it up to my Kustom KPC12 4x12" cab. Sounds amazing.
I bought a used Raven 4x12 and a Behringer V-Tone.
The 4x12's in the cab are TOTAL shit.... They're paper and generic as hell.
I replaced EVERY 12" with Celestion 50 Rockets (8Ω) speakers. The Behringer is not the best, nor worst, but it sounds a LOT better than a RAVEN Head.
But, how strange that we have similar purchases---keep on rockin'!
Celestions or EMINENCE Man O' War 12"s are good, too.
i know a few stoner doom bands who wouldn't turn down that Laney lol
Clearly seems to work for Sleep. Notably in the Dragonaut clip it's visible.
I believe Tony Iommi used a Laney as well (might be why Sleep got into them, knowing their general appreciation for Black Sabbath). The bass control probably wasn't much of a problem for Iommi with his use of a treble booster.
@@noesunyoutuber7680 I remember reading somewhere that he turned his mids and treble all the way up and the bass all the day down on the amp, on top of using the treble booster. Them old Laneys sounded darkkkk
Never played through an amp that I didn't like...except for those damned Ravens! They were the most God awful nasty sounding pieces of crap ever, thank the guitar gods that I never had to gig with one! I had the misfortune to use one of the halfstacks at my brother's gf's house though (he told me that he had a "great amp" there for me to jam on...shoulda known better) and after about 10 minutes of trying my damndest to get a sound out of it that didnt completely offend my sensibilities, came to these conclusions: the gain sucked horrible, the clean tone sucked just as bad, the digital reverb was AWFUL, the EQ sucked to the point of being unusable, the built in effects REALLY sucked, and the cabinets/speakers sucked on a level I never thought possible at any price point...this amp's overall "tone" was reminiscent of what it would sound like if you were to play a poorly EQ'd recording of thousands of fingernails scraping across a blackboard, through a 70s era Soviet television with a blown speaker then reamplified through an abnormally shrill sounding bullhorn at full volume, inside an empty dumpster...just not as aurally pleasing! But it did have one redeeming feature. When I turned it off, it stopped making that gut wrenching, soul sucking, horrifically nasal noise...that was good!
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IMO the laney amp with the push pull bass knob is designed for a low volume bedroom setup. I dont know about you but at low volumes the bass knob needs a huge bass boost to sound full. I never thought it was useful at higher volumes but at low volumes i think this is where that knob shines
I bought a Marshall mg 250 about 15 years ago, My first Marshall, didnt even try it out, what a idiot I was, never been happy with it...Good for just missing around with it at the house but very seldom use it then,
thank you. I never bought one but the first couple I heard actually made me switch to Mesa for good. What Marshall shit out with those MGs embarrassed me to be associated with them.
I own a Bogner alchemist and mine broke after two weeks, I opened it up and replaced the 4 rectifier diodes in power supply and re tubed it and have been using the amp for 13 years now, and get some fantastic tones out of it to this day. I am a trade school tech though and have the skill to fix any tube amp.
I got a free 4-12 cabinet.it seems built ok.dont know what the speakers are in it but my Hartke piggyback was louder which shocked me.i got an acoustic head which I fixed and its ok.im considering putting some new speakers in the Raven cabinet.cant beat it for free
I love my little "cheap" Orange Crush 12 amp that "sucks". Not only good for practice but mic'ing for recording too.
Same I've had an orange crush for 10 years now and its still the best sounding amp I've played through at low volumes.
@@broed731 It's great for home recording. Surround it with sound panels and mic it. Love my Orange Crush.
I had an Alchemist amp and I totally agree: great sounding amp. But surprisingly, teh biggest issue was the foot switch/switching system. I dont know if Mr. Bogner designed that section too, but it just sucked. What a footswitch does (if it's not midi) it's triggering a relay in the amp or going through some transistors that work as switches. The Alchemist footswitch is based on a bunch of resistors: if you pressed whatever switch, it activated some resistor, but then if you pushed some other switch, it added/substracted resistence to the footswitch. And those resistor values had to be ACCURATE, if they weren't it started acting weird switchng channels by itself. Dissapointing as hell...
Then a few years later I ended up using a mates spider v live and I had to have a fan blowing in the back because it overheated and cut out at least twice in a set
Loved the sound of the old Kustom bass amps. Saw Creedence the first time they came through Seattle. That bass sound was the bomb.
Is there a solid state Amp you like ? (Besides the roland cube)
Of course, there are plenty. But that’s a topic for a future video. ;)
A friend of mine use to watch a local teen show in North Jersey. Max Weinberg had a local band that often played the show in the 60s, but my friend remembered his band because of the naugahyde Kustoms that the band used. Looked cool.
I just got a belcat ka-25rc, doesn’t seem loud but it over powers every amp I play it beside.. and the low tones are so strangely interesting and incredible.. I will post a video of it soon
Fun video, I agree mostly. One thing, though, I have a Blackstar ID:Core 10 V2, with the stereo 3" speakers, and I wholeheartedly disagree. I find it gives me a lot of great, inspiring tones at volumes that won't wake the wife or baby, it's super lightweight, and it's simple to use. Getting rid of mine to help fund a Marshall DSL40 I just bought, but only because I have a Boss Katana and Blackstar Fly 3 that do low-volume stuff well too... They don't do it as well as the ID:Core 10, though.
Oh, and I kinda like the way the Peavey Wiggy looks. But I couldn't own one because I'd probably get slapped regularly for asking people to check out my Wiggy.
Also, let me add that the V2 improves issues of the first iteration. Almost regret buying a 40w V1 instead of a smaller V2 since I don't even gig and play with headphones most of the time anyways, but it was $100, I didn't know they had notable differences at the time, and at least it's stage worthy in the event I finally get the balls to play for a crowd.
I actually liked the smaller blackstar for a small amp to travel with.
The Marshall DSL40 is terrible. Imo
Spider 2 only #6? I'd put it at #3, #2 is the Spider 5 and #1 will be a Randall combo I don't remember its name
I didn’t put them in any particular order. They all suck. LOL
I believe that Randall is better with a head and cab
It was actually the WH40 from Randall that made me go out and get some heads.... let's not forget the room you are in, the guitar and power can make even the best of amps sound like crap.
Anna Hootman Totally! The player is the biggest factor of how an amp sounds. I haven't run into many pro level amps that can't dial in a usable tone on it. There's been a few though
@Robert I'm currently looking at the Blackstar Studio 10 KT88. I mostly play rock and metal at home. Would you recommend that amp?
I’ve never heard it, actually, so I couldn’t say one way or the other. I would also check out the Marshall DSL20 in the same price range.
@@RobertWJackson ok, thanks mate!
I had that Laney head. It used to belong to Vinnie Moore. I ran a Boss EQ and Metal Zone and Peavey reverb through it. It didn't have much gain because Vinnie had it modded to run on half the tubes. However it was loud as hell 😊
You mean the Laney AOR100? I guess Vinnie modded it to run on 2 EL34 tubes instead of 4, then it doesn't affect the gain at all, just a little less loud, but 50 watts are loud enough!
The early 200 Kustom amps were the most reliable I ever owned.
I Have played a 70's kustom twin that kicked ass(sounded like a early twin reverb to me) I thought i was the only one who realized how good these amps are but then i heard Phil Mcknight talk highly of the early 70's models when he went to germany and over there the early kustoms are sought after and go for heavy cash..
we have a speaker cab circa 68..we owned it 40 years now got it used,, still works and sounds great we used it for guitar ,,bass,,keys,,even as a sub one night when we blew our 18 we plugged it right in that spot and went right back on the 2/15s did a better job and no issues.. my husband used one of them amps for years to no issues good sound
This guy isn't old enough to have sold Kustom amps when they were owned by Bob Ross. Reliability was their forte. A lot of front line acts used Kustom equipment. This guy was selling the chinese made Kustoms.
So I couldn’t have possibly come across a used one or two in my day, right?
to add to this some small little guitar band from cali, Creedence Clearwater Revival, notoriously used kustom tuck and roll amplifiers..........and they don't sound half bad.
One of the absolute worst sounding solid states is those small Orange Lunchbox amps, those sound god awful. They had so much potential
Tiny terror - aren't they all valve?
arbitermatt pretty sure they have like a valve preamp, don’t quote me though. They’re not impressive. Joyo has them beat with their line of mini heads
The Tiny Terror and Dark Terror are all tube. The Micro Terror and Micro Dark are tube preamp and solid-state power amp.
Robert's Guitar Dungeon I’m glad you of all people corrected me. Keep up the good content man! Been watching you for a good year now, love these top 10 style videos
John fogerty toured solo and with CCR using a kustom amp/cab... check out 2-3 songs on his live DVD premonition... not bad sounding at all.
I've got the Line 6 Spider II head. It depends how you set it up, but you can get some good sounds out of it (if you can figure out how to do it). So it must have been a poor speaker in the Combo.
A redeeming feature of the Laney at least is an amp modder can easily solve the too much/too little bass issue with a component value swap... As you say it would need a mod but it is cheap and easy to do at least
I have two Laney AOR fifty watt heads, and was at first a bit offended to see them on the list, then he goes on to say they are actually good sounding amps except for the pull bass boost function.. which i have to say i agree with! The bass boost really does suck!! I modded both my amps, i removed the bass boost function and made several other mods to make it closer to a JCM800 Marshall circuit, which they're already similar to in a few ways.
I am actually on the opposite end of the spectrum for the tone blaster. I own the next generation the tbx150h. That thing does the super saturated slamming brutal death metal sound so well. It's quite versatile,does take abit to EQ though.
💯% agree
This dude really doesn't strike me as an old skull death metal kid growing up on ramen noodles and and food stamps
@Subix Barbarasson Who are you talking to?
I'm torn on the Laney AOR Pro Tube Lead series. Two of the best sounding amps I've ever heard were AOR 100s. I know what you mean about the bass boost issue. One of the amps was definitely NOT modded, but did not have the bass boost issue at all. The one I played through at a rehearsal studio, which I did not own, might have been modded. It was not uncommon in Los Angeles in the 80s to find modded AORs because of the bass boost issue. But without that problem these amsp kicked very hard. But here's another issue. They were not the most reliable amps. You could get lucky and find a good one, or a bad one on the fritz. I tried an AOR 50 at a guitar shop with a clipping transformer. My father, an electrical engineer by trade AND guitar player noticed this and questioned the salesman on it. When he had no answer the manager got involved and tried to tell us that the clipping transformer we heard was not a clipping transformer. This was a new amp, not used. Needless to say, my dad saved me about six hundred bucks that day. Laney cabs were very good. The 50 stacks had two corner to corner Celestion 12s while the 100s had the 4X12 deal. L.A. was the hotrods amp capital of the world in those days. I was trying new amps every week. Engls, Riveras, Soldanos, Bogners, VHT Pitbulls, etc. About this time Peavey came out with their fantastic VTM which never got any real traction. I know it was endorsed by Michael Fath and perhaps Steve Morse. Anyhow, I know Morse played Peaveys as well. Just can't remember which model. But once Peavey came out with the 5150 they sold like hotcakes. Great amps. I don't know what the deal is with Peavey now. I heard they moved all production to China.
You are so right about the Laney pro tube. I have a 50 watt combo. I have battled with that bass control issue since I've had it. I gigged with it for a few years in the 90s. I've been using and gigging other amps since, I still have it around and play with it sometimes when I want good metal tones but I got to Crank It up.
I own 3 Bugera amps. A 45W vintage head. A T50 Infinium, and a V22 Infinium, along with 2x10 bass enclosure. I can afford just about any amp if I wanted to spend the money. I played many amps before buying these, and nothing gave be the sound I was looking for, and the new Infinium technology is the best feature I have seen in and amp. Mix and match tubes if desired, and self biasing. I get more compliments on my sound. More so than our other guitarists very exspensive Messa. He has even borrowed my V22 Infinium, and loved it. He is planning one in the future. Play one, and put aside and amp snobbery, and you will be pleasantly surprised.
The V22 is supposed to sound similar to the Vox A 130.
Thanks for the info. I am looking to buy an amp, mostly for louder music with dirty distortion. I am looking at a Bugera T50 head with 2x12 TS cabinet, or a Buger v55 infinium (head only). Any thoughts on these?
This guy says the 6262 is trash, but I also see a 6260 combo for sale in my area. Worth a try, do you know? Cheers
I said the ORIGINAL 6262 is trash. The newer Infinium series amps seem to be fine. Lots of people love them.
@@RobertWJackson gotcha. Any advice on the 6260 120w 2x12?
I like them because they make me money when I have to repair them :)
@0o0oo0o Yeah, make sure it says “Infinium” on it. LOL
Vox AC 30s sound shit to me, but some folks swear by them. Fender are my favorites.
A Vox AC30 sounds like shit to you... get help
Ha! I have the Tone blaster mentioned here. I got it included in a deal when I bought another amp that I actually wanted.
The guy was using the tone blaster as the “wet” part of his effects.
I only really plugged into it once and that was to see how loud it got at full bore. I’ll have to try it out again- just for fun.
For 120 watts its wasn’t that loud. My tube amps would have drowned it out...
I bought a brand new Gibson Lab5 to replace my aging Ampeg VT22. Sometimes you just have to learn the hard way. Took less than a week to decide the Gibson sounded like sheet. The only real problem with the VT22 was the weight. For the last 15 years or so I have been using a Peavey Classic 30. If it wasn't loud enough, put a mic in front of it.