Good to see Richard out there with you, I have enjoyed his videos very much as pottery is a love of mine. Of course here in Michigan the oldest I find is Native American Indian. The oldest I have found is from the Early Woodland which dates back several thousand years. Love your video Si!
How you weren't blown away with the wind is beyond me- not a picking to pin you down 😂 brilliant video, great contribution from Richard- I had no idea about the tempering of grey ware 😁 every day is a school day! Thank you and please stay safe- all of you- you will soon be out there at the coal face again ❤
The horse was actually quite young, less then 10 years old, you showed tue 2nd incisor and it still has its cup (the indent in the middle), which wears down and disappears in the upper jaws first incisor after 9 years, 2nd incisor after 10 years and 3rd incisor after 11 years, in the lower jaw its after 6 years for the 1st, 7 years for the 2nd and 8 years for the 3rd incisor
@@gaylereid8264 Shergar was a horse kidnapped by the IRA "February 1983) was an Irish-bred, British-trained Thoroughbred racehorse. ... In 1999 a supergrass, formerly in the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA), stated they stole the horse. The IRA has never admitted any role in the theft. The Aga Khan, Shergar's owner, sent the horse for training in Britain in 1979 and 1980." Wilipedia This by "Sporting Intelligence" "In February 1983, Shergar was kidnapped for ransom by the IRA, who killed him when the abduction went wrong and buried his body in a bog in the north of County Leitrim.Jun 4, 2011" Very sad, poor boy😞
The skulls are really interesting and I'm so glad Richard was along for the Roman pottery finds! Thanks for continuing to post during this difficult time!
Whenever I see 'Pot Boilers' I can't help but be reminded of the story "Stone Soup". And you can't just use any old stone to heat water, some will explode! Makes me wonder if the story isn't just a cultural memory of the before times.
I don’t know for sure but why wouldn’t it? I think you’re right! It’s fascinating how many fictional stories have come to light as being true in origin! ✌🏼🙏🏼❤️ for you and yours! ❤️, A Dorothy In Kansas
Love watching you and Nic. You both give history and other good information instead of just chattering like so many others. Thank you for allowing me to go mudlarking with you from the great state of Tennessee.
Horsome episode Si...what a fantastic idea to get it dated!! I shall definitely like to help you find out. Really enjoy Richard's wealth of pottery knowledge, how cool are those finger prints! Thank you for sharing guys!
That was fascinating, I learned so much. Great film as always. I love that you really give us viewers a great sense of being there with you lovely mudlovvers. What a storm you were out in. Thanks for sharing
Horse heads probably used in eel fishing. Hence the broken bits. Eels get right up inside so the fisherman smashes the bone to get in. They still do it in Poland.
(this is Li commenting, not David) Si, thanks so much for all your videos! I just love watching them. You are the best mudlarker on youtube, and you seem like such an interesting person. Cheers from Canada :) ♥
Flint is formed from silica which formed inside chalk during the Cretaceous period. There are lots of reasons for 'crusts' on flint but I liked Richard's theory here regarding boiling water, flint is a very good conductor of heat. Calcite also forms in flint and can be found encompassing flint echinoids. Hope the horse skulls do turn out to be roman -they're cool finds though no matter what the age and have donated £5 to the fund 🤗
What the heck, I was going through mudlarking videos and stumbled across this video, before introducing Richard, I was like... hang on a second, I recognise that face, I used to live in Surrey and would regularly see him, a really nice man!, small world.
Interesting finds. I enjoyed this. I agree that the it would be fascinating to find out how old it could be. Did it fall in battle? Was it butchered? Could it have washed up from a shipwreck that sank in a storm? I’m curious. Richard is a font of information. He readily identifies the pieces just by looking at it.
Thanks Si. To know if your horse was an old or a young horse before it died it takes a little knowledge of how their teeth grow as they age. It's a little difficult from a video. Basically a quick look at the angkevof the front teeth will do. The more acute the angle where the teeth meet the skull, the younger the horse. The angle flattens out as they age and the front teeth appear longer and reaching. That's interestingly where the expression " long in the tooth " came from when referring to us old giesers . Horse's are grazing animals so always have a wear pattern on the enamel so it's easier to guesstimate age by angle of the front teeth. ( I owned horses for 35 years and loved assisting the horse dentist yearly)😁👍💙 plus being a nurse anatomy and physiology fascinated me.😉
An excellent Si-finds episode! Can’t wait for the carbon dating results... there may also be dna material in the teeth? An equine society would be interested in the horses’ origin & lineage (if there are descendants).
Not too old, “Mid 18th” Century. I’m so jealous! If I found something from the 1700s I would be ecstatic. To those of us in the US, that’s a long time ago. I wish we had a longer history, but it took you Brits a long time to get around to settling here! (along with everyone else…)
Si, have you ever heard the saying "long in the tooth"? It comes from the fact that the older the horse (& other equines) the longer their teeth. Opposite to primates, like ourselves. Back when people didn't know their ages, people had to make assumptions, often based on things like grey hair, skin condition but also teeth length. Having no dental health back then, older people would all have shorter, worn down teeth. This is part of the reason if looks so odd to us when elderly people get pristine full length teeth with their dentures & veneers etc. I studied human evolution & anthropology at uni, is why I know this stuff. Cheers from NZ
Finding a bunch of horse-skulls in one place makes me think of what's found around old tanneries; wonder if that's what these could be from? The skulls were often removed first to help the animals' carcasses drain and because brain-matter decays very fast and gets particularly stinky. Horsehide was considered to be fairly high-grade leather in the past, stiffer than regular cattle-leather and a bit on the waterproof side. It was used a lot in carriages and luggage, whips, harnesses, boots, you name it, and some people preferred softened horsehide for greatcoats when they traveled because of how finegrained it was. Tanneries were usually right on the edge (or even outside) cities due to the horrible smells, and they needed a close-by water source, so you find the sites along rivers and streams all the time; they date back quite literally thousands of years. As for that narrower horse that Trimmy found, I wonder if it might've been a donkey? Good to see Trimmy and Richard out with you; I have to admit that I'm a fan of Richard's-- so sue me, massive competence is terribly attractive! ^_^ Love to watch his videos, the man's depth of knowledge is *amazing.*
Great video and informative, I looking at the teeth you found look so huge , is it part of the same thing? Also seeing the burning on both bones , could be that they was involved in the fires of Londinium in that era may be? Thanks for sharing!
Interesting vid, certainly makes you think. Precision dating of the skull, to an exact date might be difficult. You have so much history in such a small space there on your island.
Hello Si ....if you have a large tooth spare ....I could do with one as my mate I detect with has just punched one of mine out a few weeks ago when I found a gold ring . I will wait by the letter box for something to do ! Stay safe every one x
Ignore any negativity in the comments Si, people are getting cranky because they're stuck at home. Over half way to your target already! Woohoo! If it slows down, maybe you could auction off some of the stuff you've found over the years? Hope you're still safe and well 😘💕❤️
@@Sifinds You're welcome 😊 and Congratulations! 🎉 If you're wondering how I knew about it hours before your video... I also subscribe to 'The Man with the Hat' and he posted about it. Don't want you sat at home thinking 🤔 'she says she's not a stalker but somehow seems to know my every move' 🤔😂
Great video,Simon. Richard is a powerhouse of knowledge,I am super impressed by his bank of information,regarding Roman sherds. And what became of the horse skulls? I will donate,if the carbon dating has yet to be done,along with the wooden shoe form that you featured in another video! You have a friend in me,regarding carbon dating,I will donate ,to make sure that history is confirmed,verified,vindicated,always!!! I’ll see you in September,totally Thames time.
Great Video, as per usual! BTW, cows and sheep don't have upper teeth. Horses do. The first skull part is the forehead (with eye sockets) and the nasal ridge which ends before the nostril area. At 9:36 the skull that Mr. Trim found is definitely a horse's upper jaw. It has the long gap between the incisors and the molars (where the bit rests). It is most likely a male horse. If you look closely, there is a tooth socket in that gap. Most female horses do not have these "wolf teeth". To judge the age of an horse, there are numerous charts online that can help you determine that. The easiest way is to use the upper incisors wear pattern. Since you have both the center teeth in quite good condition, it should be a cinch! LOL Famous last words, eh! Just looking at that loose tooth, I would suggest between 5 years and 10 years of age. The little pointy cone-shaped tooth is a wolf tooth. At 18:35, that is a section of the lower jaw, back between the molars. Cheers from Florida!
Wow! Great video! - the skeletons are stunning! If ever you want to get rid of them?? 😱😉🥰 send them to me! or maybe a tooth on a necklace, through our mutual friend?? So many possibilities! Go Fund Me sent, too 💙 Richard, thank you so much, for the in-depth knowledge of Roman pottery
The holes you thought were eye sockets are actually the temples. The horse's eyes are further down the side of its head by a bit. Judging size of them, you're looking at a pony or a cob. The one is young. Probably 4 or 5 years old and definitely a stud or gelding. Did you ever get them dated?
Sad you have to cover your @ss and put the filmed on date so people don't bash you for it. Keep posting your awesome adventures and finds; we'll keep watching. 👍👍✌✌
People still dont take the time to read it though and they jump to conclusions....I hope si has some more footage to make a few more videos during lockdown xxx
There is flint and chert, both microcrystaline the same as jasper and agate, the reason they are different names, flint is nodular like the white lumps found on the Coast, Chert is formed in slabs and very saught after by flint workers making replica arrowheads etc.
Interesting linguistics finds today, Simon: I had never before heard the literal meaning of 'potboiler' - those prehistorics must have been an impatient group, when they want their tea they want it now! Also, we can really see where the expression 'long in the tooth' came from (it does refer to horses teeth and age). Great post!!
hi si, it takes 10,000 years for a fossil to fossilize so if the horse teeth and skull are then it's over 10,000 years old if not then it's less than 10,000 years old :0) I have my own fossilized horse tooth and it's heavy as it's turned to stone, fossilized :0)
@@billyanderson321 true but I think it's accepted that it takes 10k to fossilize fossils but like you say some fossils under different setting can fossilize quicker :0) the only problem is we are not around long enough to see it unfortunately :0(
I know this is a fairly old video but I saw a leaf that looked familiar 🤔 did you stumble on someone's gorilla grow of the old Jamaica 🇯🇲 old Holburn??
Horsome episode. When I saw the incisors (front teeth) of your skull, my instincts told me 'young horse' due to the angle and length of the incisor, and the very large 'cup' or infundibulum on the occluding surface. I would suggest the age of the horse at death would be between 3.5 and 5 years. Only a guess without seeing a full set of incisors. I have a degree in equine science, but not as much knowledge as a vet or equine dentist! FYI Si!
Wonderfully educational video, as always. I do have suggestion/request... Would it be possible to attach a filter to your microphone when recording on the foreshore? It might cut the wind noise a bit. Your ''Larks'' are so Interesting and it is a bit difficult to hear your critique on what artifacts you have resurrected. Thank you.
Hello Si, thanks for the video. I hope you have footage to put out some more now that you've been banned from mudlarking for the time being ☹️. Stay safe. Let's find out when that horse roamed the earth 👍. Donation sent.
Wreckdiver59 hi mate. Yes got a fe more up my sleeve matey. Thank you so much for the donation. So kind of you! The target has now been reached with your help!
When your out in the mud and your finding bits of large Roman pottery, are they funeral pots? How did they get so far out from the shore? Was the water not covering where you are finding the pots two thousand years ago? Was it dry land back then or was the pots taken out into the water? Cheers 👍
Mudlarkers & detectorists on UA-cam, really need to learn to shield their mics from the wind when it's blowing. Something I learned when making fishing vids.
Great videos. And great finds. I collect paeolithic handaxes which I find on the Suffolk and Norfolk beaches if u interested in looking at them if u have a email I can send u some pictures of them. Nice thing about them is the colours and patina they have on them. All diffrent sizes and shapes to. Cheers Ryan.
the horse is probably not real old based on the angle of the incisors and the presence of an incisor cup. When horses are real old the incisors project more forward and the teeth are longer. In addition the cup of the incisor at 12:20 is still present which means the teeth have not worn down beyond the cup. I would guess this horse was probably around 7 years old
If you could find a forensic artist, they could do a reconstruction based on the skull :) Maybe at least tell you something about the size and life of the horse (age, injuries, etc)
Thanks for watching! To see the results of the carbon dating programme click here > ua-cam.com/video/od6qdN6Q640/v-deo.html
I’m watching too many of these. Saw the pipe “ oh yes, mid 1700s..” and I was right. Oh dear.
Great stuff!
Great video, thanks for the plug! Hope to see you when life gets back to normal!
Cheers Rich!
Good to see Richard out there with you, I have enjoyed his videos very much as pottery is a love of mine. Of course here in Michigan the oldest I find is Native American Indian. The oldest I have found is from the Early Woodland which dates back several thousand years. Love your video Si!
I find pot boilers here also but the Indians used round rocks.
Richard and Si, two of my favorite mudlarkers!
😊
Paleontologist refer to the skull you found as "RHH" - Random Horses Head. They were common in 400-800 BC. They are still common today.
Really love your videos! You, Nicola and Richard are the best, I'm learning so much! Thanks!!
Nikkkita * my pleasure!
Si-nice to see Richard. I always find him so interesting to listen to. His pottery knowledge is profound!
Gene Miller it certainly is!
Great to see Richard The Pottery Don out with you, Si! Horses head find is excellent, have donated! 🤟🏻
OLD FATHER THAMES Thanks sweetie!!! Target reached. Woohoo!
How you weren't blown away with the wind is beyond me- not a picking to pin you down 😂 brilliant video, great contribution from Richard- I had no idea about the tempering of grey ware 😁 every day is a school day! Thank you and please stay safe- all of you- you will soon be out there at the coal face again ❤
Samantha Cotterill Thanks Sam! Hopefully back out there soon! Still got a few vids in the bank for y’all!
Yay! That makes me happy 😀
The horse was actually quite young, less then 10 years old, you showed tue 2nd incisor and it still has its cup (the indent in the middle), which wears down and disappears in the upper jaws first incisor after 9 years, 2nd incisor after 10 years and 3rd incisor after 11 years, in the lower jaw its after 6 years for the 1st, 7 years for the 2nd and 8 years for the 3rd incisor
Ah interesting thanks!
Hence the reason you never look a gift horse in the mouth...he may no teeth left...
Wow!! Thank You for sharing this!! No idea age of horses could be so precise!! What is a "Shergar"??!!
@@gaylereid8264 Shergar was a horse kidnapped by the IRA
"February 1983) was an Irish-bred, British-trained Thoroughbred racehorse. ... In 1999 a supergrass, formerly in the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA), stated they stole the horse. The IRA has never admitted any role in the theft. The Aga Khan, Shergar's owner, sent the horse for training in Britain in 1979 and 1980." Wilipedia
This by "Sporting Intelligence"
"In February 1983, Shergar was kidnapped for ransom by the IRA, who killed him when the abduction went wrong and buried his body in a bog in the north of County Leitrim.Jun 4, 2011"
Very sad, poor boy😞
The skulls are really interesting and I'm so glad Richard was along for the Roman pottery finds! Thanks for continuing to post during this difficult time!
Theresa C. My pleasure. I’d been saving this one
Whenever I see 'Pot Boilers' I can't help but be reminded of the story "Stone Soup". And you can't just use any old stone to heat water, some will explode! Makes me wonder if the story isn't just a cultural memory of the before times.
I don’t know for sure but why wouldn’t it? I think you’re right!
It’s fascinating how many fictional stories have come to light as being true in origin!
✌🏼🙏🏼❤️ for you and yours!
❤️, A Dorothy In Kansas
All good thoughts for you and yours all them positive vibes too ! Tricky times to say the least but let's all just MUD ALL THROUGH XXX 😍 LARK ON !!!
@@googlethis313 It's probably true because it's never stopped and even today it's part of bushcraft.
Love watching you and Nic. You both give history and other good information instead of just chattering like so many others. Thank you for allowing me to go mudlarking with you from the great state of Tennessee.
Cheers to the 3 Thames Weather Worriers! Thank you, just a winning team.
Horsome episode Si...what a fantastic idea to get it dated!! I shall definitely like to help you find out. Really enjoy Richard's wealth of pottery knowledge, how cool are those finger prints! Thank you for sharing guys!
Lissy Moz Hey Lissy, thanks for your confidence in the idea. You’re a star!
Si-finds Thames Mudlark Just a star gazer here, really; your wonderful idea Simon! Stay blessed
Richard had mud everywhere, lol. Great video guys.
PompeyChris71 yeah he got stuck, numerous times but I didn’t have the heart to film it
@@Sifinds Lol. I bet his wife was pleased when she saw the state of him. I was laughing every time he came on. He was in a right state.
That was fascinating, I learned so much. Great film as always. I love that you really give us viewers a great sense of being there with you lovely mudlovvers. What a storm you were out in. Thanks for sharing
MsDig65 👍🏻😂
Loved the pottery segment - fascinating!
Horse heads probably used in eel fishing. Hence the broken bits. Eels get right up inside so the fisherman smashes the bone to get in. They still do it in Poland.
I'm Polish and I had no idea people still do that... interesting
@@clare8523 So i was told. There's no better way to catch a few eels with so little effort.
Eels always get up inside ya.
I find it troubling that dead horses are found in the Thames and wonder why they landed there.They are such beautiful animals when alive..
Hello Si and Richard👋 Thank you so much☮️🇨🇦❤️
One time I thought I had found a large shard of roman grey ware with an intricate design - I picked it up and I had found a scrap of an old tyre 🙃
Haha
(this is Li commenting, not David) Si, thanks so much for all your videos! I just love watching them. You are the best mudlarker on youtube, and you seem like such an interesting person. Cheers from Canada :) ♥
David Anderson Aw thanks Li! I appreciate that x
Flint is formed from silica which formed inside chalk during the Cretaceous period. There are lots of reasons for 'crusts' on flint but I liked Richard's theory here regarding boiling water, flint is a very good conductor of heat.
Calcite also forms in flint and can be found encompassing flint echinoids.
Hope the horse skulls do turn out to be roman -they're cool finds though no matter what the age and have donated £5 to the fund 🤗
Marina Budd Thank you so much for the donation! I can’t wait to find out it’s age. Yes Rich is a font of knowledge. And a true gent!
The horse is Shergar, I love Richard he is so knowledgeable.
Thanks guys.👍💙
What the heck, I was going through mudlarking videos and stumbled across this video, before introducing Richard, I was like... hang on a second, I recognise that face, I used to live in Surrey and would regularly see him, a really nice man!, small world.
No way! What's your name, I'll tell him... if you want...
Good finds, horse and pony skulls look good. Your friend certainly knows his pots.
Will you make a Mudlover logo patch to sew onto a jacket? I would love that.
That would be great! I also want fabric made from some of Si's art prints, but that's probably too much to ask.... 😁
I can try Tonina...
Interesting finds. I enjoyed this. I agree that the it would be fascinating to find out how old it could be. Did it fall in battle? Was it butchered? Could it have washed up from a shipwreck that sank in a storm? I’m curious. Richard is a font of information. He readily identifies the pieces just by looking at it.
Coni Torres Yes he couldn’t be on mastermind with his specialist subject. Lol
Thanks Si. To know if your horse was an old or a young horse before it died it takes a little knowledge of how their teeth grow as they age. It's a little difficult from a video. Basically a quick look at the angkevof the front teeth will do. The more acute the angle where the teeth meet the skull, the younger the horse. The angle flattens out as they age and the front teeth appear longer and reaching. That's interestingly where the expression " long in the tooth " came from when referring to us old giesers . Horse's are grazing animals so always have a wear pattern on the enamel so it's easier to guesstimate age by angle of the front teeth. ( I owned horses for 35 years and loved assisting the horse dentist yearly)😁👍💙 plus being a nurse anatomy and physiology fascinated me.😉
annette fournier thank you for the good advice!
@@Sifinds 💜
An excellent Si-finds episode! Can’t wait for the carbon dating results... there may also be dna material in the teeth? An equine society would be interested in the horses’ origin & lineage (if there are descendants).
I was showing my daughter the horse skull and we decided its a Sycorax from Dr who lol. Jokes apart , cant wait to find out how old it is .
Haha
Thanks for the upload si, this helps a lot clearing my mind during the lockdown❤
I hope youre doing well too, stay safe mate.
Yes mate, gonna put out some older stuff I've been saving for a rainy day, well I guess this it!
Not too old, “Mid 18th” Century. I’m so jealous! If I found something from the 1700s I would be ecstatic. To those of us in the US, that’s a long time ago. I wish we had a longer history, but it took you Brits a long time to get around to settling here! (along with everyone else…)
Si, have you ever heard the saying "long in the tooth"? It comes from the fact that the older the horse (& other equines) the longer their teeth. Opposite to primates, like ourselves. Back when people didn't know their ages, people had to make assumptions, often based on things like grey hair, skin condition but also teeth length. Having no dental health back then, older people would all have shorter, worn down teeth. This is part of the reason if looks so odd to us when elderly people get pristine full length teeth with their dentures & veneers etc. I studied human evolution & anthropology at uni, is why I know this stuff. Cheers from NZ
Great video! I look forward to new videos every Sunday. I’m partial to the pottery as I am a potter. 😊
DeAnn Kauffman Thank you!
I tried looking, did you ever find out the age of the horse?
Scratches... could they be butchering marks? Fascinating episode! (And, I love Richard's book!)
Lisa Lorentz Thanks Lisa, these adventures always give more questions than answers don’t they. Haha
Your friends are very nice!
Finding a bunch of horse-skulls in one place makes me think of what's found around old tanneries; wonder if that's what these could be from? The skulls were often removed first to help the animals' carcasses drain and because brain-matter decays very fast and gets particularly stinky. Horsehide was considered to be fairly high-grade leather in the past, stiffer than regular cattle-leather and a bit on the waterproof side. It was used a lot in carriages and luggage, whips, harnesses, boots, you name it, and some people preferred softened horsehide for greatcoats when they traveled because of how finegrained it was. Tanneries were usually right on the edge (or even outside) cities due to the horrible smells, and they needed a close-by water source, so you find the sites along rivers and streams all the time; they date back quite literally thousands of years. As for that narrower horse that Trimmy found, I wonder if it might've been a donkey?
Good to see Trimmy and Richard out with you; I have to admit that I'm a fan of Richard's-- so sue me, massive competence is terribly attractive! ^_^ Love to watch his videos, the man's depth of knowledge is *amazing.*
YsabetJustYsabet Thanks Mudlover. Yeah Rich is cool as
Loved the transfer ware, awesome as always, stay safe in these crazy times. 🇨🇦🐘😘
Marion Bowler Thanks M x
Oh my gosh, you can actually see the ridges of the potters fingerprints on that white sherd. Cool!
annette fournier I know. Amazing right!
Hello Si, be safe and thanks for the video
debcarnes100 cheers Mudlover!
Great video Si. Looking forward very much to finding out about the skull. x
You and me both!
Great video and informative, I looking at the teeth you found look so huge , is it part of the same thing? Also seeing the burning on both bones , could be that they was involved in the fires of Londinium in that era may be? Thanks for sharing!
Achillia Roberso it’s the roots and all
Hi mudlover hope u fine some good things 💙💜❤️
Thankyou for sharing.
Interesting vid, certainly makes you think. Precision dating of the skull, to an exact date might be difficult. You have so much history in such a small space there on your island.
You've found a Kelpie ;)
Goodness, another one, an entire horse cemetary! Definitely equids, anyway.
Hello Si ....if you have a large tooth spare ....I could do with one as my mate I detect with has just punched one of mine out a few weeks ago when I found a gold ring . I will wait by the letter box for something to do ! Stay safe every one x
Metal Detecting UK With Metal Detectives of Dorset You’re joking right? Did he really punch you? 😂
@@Sifinds watch the video ! Lol ! ...the one with the caravans lol .
Your flogging a dead horse there
@@chubbyroyston3880 Lols ..great comment !
Hi Simon, just donated, can’t wait for the results. Keep on ‘larking ! Cheers from Melb.
Thank you kindly!
Love Richard 🤗
Ignore any negativity in the comments Si, people are getting cranky because they're stuck at home. Over half way to your target already! Woohoo! If it slows down, maybe you could auction off some of the stuff you've found over the years? Hope you're still safe and well 😘💕❤️
Beth Dixon we have made it Beth!!! Thanks for your donation. It’s so appreciated!!!
@@Sifinds You're welcome 😊 and Congratulations! 🎉 If you're wondering how I knew about it hours before your video... I also subscribe to 'The Man with the Hat' and he posted about it. Don't want you sat at home thinking 🤔 'she says she's not a stalker but somehow seems to know my every move' 🤔😂
Did you ever get the results for the carbon-dating?
Great video,Simon.
Richard is a powerhouse of knowledge,I am super impressed by his bank of information,regarding Roman sherds.
And what became of the horse skulls?
I will donate,if the carbon dating has yet to be done,along with the wooden shoe form that you featured in another video!
You have a friend in me,regarding carbon dating,I will donate ,to make sure that history is confirmed,verified,vindicated,always!!!
I’ll see you in September,totally Thames time.
Great adventure stay safe
Good to see Professor in your video, Si. Good luck with the skull.
Cheers matey!!!
Great Video, as per usual! BTW, cows and sheep don't have upper teeth. Horses do. The first skull part is the forehead (with eye sockets) and the nasal ridge which ends before the nostril area. At 9:36 the skull that Mr. Trim found is definitely a horse's upper jaw. It has the long gap between the incisors and the molars (where the bit rests). It is most likely a male horse. If you look closely, there is a tooth socket in that gap. Most female horses do not have these "wolf teeth". To judge the age of an horse, there are numerous charts online that can help you determine that. The easiest way is to use the upper incisors wear pattern. Since you have both the center teeth in quite good condition, it should be a cinch! LOL Famous last words, eh! Just looking at that loose tooth, I would suggest between 5 years and 10 years of age. The little pointy cone-shaped tooth is a wolf tooth. At 18:35, that is a section of the lower jaw, back between the molars. Cheers from Florida!
Juadonna Henry thank you!
Wow! Great video!
- the skeletons are stunning!
If ever you want to get rid of them?? 😱😉🥰 send them to me!
or maybe a tooth on a necklace, through our mutual friend??
So many possibilities!
Go Fund Me sent, too 💙
Richard, thank you so much, for the in-depth knowledge of Roman pottery
Zandain Thank you for the donation! Very much appreciated!!!!
Very interesting finds, great video, Thanks
Cheers!
Great video Si and friends.
I'm always learning new things being subscribed to you 🥇
🙂🍻👍🏻
MrVxrman thanks matey
The holes you thought were eye sockets are actually the temples. The horse's eyes are further down the side of its head by a bit. Judging size of them, you're looking at a pony or a cob. The one is young. Probably 4 or 5 years old and definitely a stud or gelding.
Did you ever get them dated?
Well looks like your getting it tested, congrats on the curiosity of your viewers.
You were right about the placement of the bones
Happy valentine day 🎉🌺 from Shirley white
Sad you have to cover your @ss and put the filmed on date so people don't bash you for it. Keep posting your awesome adventures and finds; we'll keep watching. 👍👍✌✌
People still dont take the time to read it though and they jump to conclusions....I hope si has some more footage to make a few more videos during lockdown xxx
Great video Si 👍☺
Thanks Deb! x
👍😷 Nice video guys you guys stay blessed I'll see you on your next
Cheers Rog
700 raised!!! Caint wait to see how old it is
Awesome finds...good luck on dating it...the horse that is.
Karen Packer haha. Thanks
@@Sifinds thought the humor would keep us all cheered up!!! Lol
Flint is a compressed chalk, I found that out from reading Terry Pratchett books (I double checked that as well :) )
Absolutely love Terry Pratchett! 👍👍✌✌
There is flint and chert, both microcrystaline the same as jasper and agate, the reason they are different names, flint is nodular like the white lumps found on the Coast, Chert is formed in slabs and very saught after by flint workers making replica arrowheads etc.
@Eliza Grogan
Forgot to say, flint is black, Chert comes in many colours especially orange like in shingle
I love your videos.
Interesting linguistics finds today, Simon: I had never before heard the literal meaning of 'potboiler' - those prehistorics must have been an impatient group, when they want their tea they want it now! Also, we can really see where the expression 'long in the tooth' came from (it does refer to horses teeth and age). Great post!!
Marcel Audubon Thanks mate. And thanks for the donation!! 👍🏻
Well, they didn't have microwaves!! Anything to get-her- done.
it saved the pot from cracking on the fire.
So have you found out how old it is yet?
hi si, it takes 10,000 years for a fossil to fossilize so if the horse teeth and skull are then it's over 10,000 years old if not then it's less than 10,000 years old :0) I have my own fossilized horse tooth and it's heavy as it's turned to stone, fossilized :0)
robert martyr doesn’t always take 10k years. Under right settings, petrifaction happens very rapidly.
@@billyanderson321 true but I think it's accepted that it takes 10k to fossilize fossils but like you say some fossils under different setting can fossilize quicker :0) the only problem is we are not around long enough to see it unfortunately :0(
Donated... looking forward to seeing the results 😊
FizzWizard Thank you so much!!!!!!
Very interesting video.
I know this is a fairly old video but I saw a leaf that looked familiar 🤔 did you stumble on someone's gorilla grow of the old Jamaica 🇯🇲 old Holburn??
Hey Si. Interesting time for a carbon dating fundraiser.
Downright comical, but oddly uplifting at the same time.
I hope you raise the money.
Allan Turpin Target reached mate. Gotta respect the Mudlover crew!
@@Sifinds- sweet.
Lol idk if I'd be wanting to dig up skulls or unearth the bubonic plague chilling in a bottle lol
Horsome episode. When I saw the incisors (front teeth) of your skull, my instincts told me 'young horse' due to the angle and length of the incisor, and the very large 'cup' or infundibulum on the occluding surface. I would suggest the age of the horse at death would be between 3.5 and 5 years. Only a guess without seeing a full set of incisors. I have a degree in equine science, but not as much knowledge as a vet or equine dentist! FYI Si!
Wicked thanks Shaun!
Fun collaboration. I just donated, hope the skull turns out really old. :-)
Thank you so much! Me too!
Interesting find on the horse's skull. I did not realize how big their teeth were. Hope your able to find out how old the skull is.
Cheers Sally
Wonderfully educational video, as always. I do have suggestion/request... Would it be possible to attach a filter to your microphone when recording on the foreshore? It might cut the wind noise a bit. Your ''Larks'' are so Interesting and it is a bit difficult to hear your critique on what artifacts you have resurrected. Thank you.
Hello Si, thanks for the video. I hope you have footage to put out some more now that you've been banned from mudlarking for the time being ☹️. Stay safe.
Let's find out when that horse roamed the earth 👍. Donation sent.
Wreckdiver59 hi mate. Yes got a fe more up my sleeve matey. Thank you so much for the donation. So kind of you! The target has now been reached with your help!
When your out in the mud and your finding bits of large Roman pottery, are they funeral pots? How did they get so far out from the shore? Was the water not covering where you are finding the pots two thousand years ago? Was it dry land back then or was the pots taken out into the water? Cheers 👍
AWESOME VIDEO!! :)
Thanks Mudlover
Richard looks like the kind of guy that would stare at me from afar in the library.
Name the library...I'll be there...but I might be staring at a book!
@@richardhemery6916 Haha! Took me awhile to realise it was you! I'm really bummed the libraries are closed as theres important research to be done!
@@TortugaLuv Yes, libraries face enough competition from the internet without this! Nothing will replace the smell of a real book for me, though.
Mudlarkers & detectorists on UA-cam, really need to learn to shield their mics from the wind when it's blowing. Something I learned when making fishing vids.
I missed what the name of your friend is. The one who wrote a book. Richard? Glad to see you all out mudlarking. 👍😊
Yes Richard. This was before lockdown
Totally top drawer finds ! ..always as lush as ever ;-) #crushonsifinds
shucks
@@Sifinds 😍 you are welcome ☺️
Great videos. And great finds. I collect paeolithic handaxes which I find on the Suffolk and Norfolk beaches if u interested in looking at them if u have a email I can send u some pictures of them. Nice thing about them is the colours and patina they have on them. All diffrent sizes and shapes to. Cheers Ryan.
Ryzie Mac well can’t speak for Si but I’d love to see pics of the
the horse is probably not real old based on the angle of the incisors and the presence of an incisor cup. When horses are real old the incisors project more forward and the teeth are longer. In addition the cup of the incisor at 12:20 is still present which means the teeth have not worn down beyond the cup. I would guess this horse was probably around 7 years old
Martha Anderson cool. I’d be more interested in what era he was from than actual age to be honest
If you could find a forensic artist, they could do a reconstruction based on the skull :) Maybe at least tell you something about the size and life of the horse (age, injuries, etc)
Lynn W know any?
The easiest way of telling if it is a roman horse is it will speak italian.
Symon Sheppard 🤣
@@conitorres9774
Sorry Coni, what does that mean please.
@@symonsheppard7151 It's a laughing emoji.
Neophema Ty😀
@@Neophema
Thank you for telling me, i'm old.
The thumbnail looks like a unicorn
Just watch the intro its the best. The well rest just do!!!!!!!!
Poor lads are out there in the bitter cold making a video for us and people moaning about the wind noise 🤔another great video lads well done 👏