One Easy Trick to Make Cool Salamanders

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  • @EonsOfBattle
    @EonsOfBattle  10 місяців тому +18

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    • @Emu0verlord
      @Emu0verlord 10 місяців тому +1

      Day 2 of asking EonsOfBattle to make a review of All quiet on the Martian front 2nd edition return of the tripods.

  • @TheTygre
    @TheTygre 10 місяців тому +160

    The sandpaper as dragon hide is a stroke of absolute genius, but I also want to give a shoutout to the beads as bubbles idea. Took me completely by surprise.

    • @KHFanForAll
      @KHFanForAll 9 місяців тому +3

      Yes! As a student of cosmetology and a lover of miniature wargaming, I LOVE the idea of using items from both hobbies interchangeably. The nail art section is teeming with creative solutions for environments and tools!

    • @Sharklops
      @Sharklops 5 місяців тому +3

      Scale scales and bubble doubles!

  • @MxlexywithaY
    @MxlexywithaY 10 місяців тому +636

    When i first heard about the Salamanders being friendly to normal humans i thought they were basically firefighters, i'm sorta not wrong

    • @medeaMULTIMEDIA
      @medeaMULTIMEDIA 10 місяців тому +54

      reverse firefighters

    • @AzkuulaKtaktu
      @AzkuulaKtaktu 10 місяців тому

      Damn now I want yellow salamanders with red hats shooting water from their "hosers"

    • @MxlexywithaY
      @MxlexywithaY 10 місяців тому +35

      @@medeaMULTIMEDIA yeh, FIRE-fighters

    • @bagel_guy9495
      @bagel_guy9495 10 місяців тому +10

      Literal fire fighters

    • @deadfrogfoot
      @deadfrogfoot 10 місяців тому +7

      fighting fire with fire

  • @mr.potato2223
    @mr.potato2223 10 місяців тому +131

    Congrats, you've single handedly revelutionized how people put scales on their models

  • @Purportedzero
    @Purportedzero 10 місяців тому +61

    EOB is by far my favorite miniature painting channel. Jay is just such a goober and gets so into what he’s doing and is so incredibly talented at painting and making good painting done quickly more digestible for plebs like me. Love Nick in the background editing too. Keep up the awesome videos

  • @noobflyboyx3301
    @noobflyboyx3301 10 місяців тому +141

    I love the sandpaper idea. The dragon skin effect is really nice.

    • @magnusmillerwilson
      @magnusmillerwilson 10 місяців тому +1

      Yes, you beat me to it. I was skeptical until the prime and it looks REALLY good and is REALLY easy! I’m definitely gonna try that. What grit did he say it was? 50?

    • @stagthechainsawbeserker3926
      @stagthechainsawbeserker3926 10 місяців тому

      @@magnusmillerwilson I think he said 30

    • @clashhoyland9583
      @clashhoyland9583 10 місяців тому +6

      ​@@magnusmillerwilsonI'm pretty sure he said 80 grit

    • @Schmaglow
      @Schmaglow 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@clashhoyland9583he did indeed say 80 grit

    • @jamescreed6259
      @jamescreed6259 8 місяців тому

      80 and 30

  • @Brickerbrack
    @Brickerbrack 9 місяців тому +2

    I used to play Salamanders years ago, when I was still in the game. I _love_ your sandpaper scales idea; that's a stroke of genius!
    I made really simple lava bases for most by covering them in wall filler/spackle and carving cracks into them, then painting the cracks in red and yellow, and the actual surface in black...

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 10 місяців тому +59

    Jay, the Crotch-King; he knows what's hanging.
    Thanks for another fun video, and a peek at a great paint job. The simplified hot-rod flames look very strong.

  • @JayTeacakes
    @JayTeacakes 10 місяців тому +19

    Salamanders always get an upvote! Nice idea on the sandpaper, I did the miliput&greenstuff sculpting for my Salamanders Intercession Killteam but might have to steal that idea for the Scout KT I want to build

  • @joshward2868
    @joshward2868 10 місяців тому +8

    The day I’ve wished for has finally arrived! I’m an avid Salamanders fan and have been (not so) patiently waiting for Jay to put his version of them out. 15/10 video!

  • @Krasher247
    @Krasher247 10 місяців тому +72

    SOUL DRINKERS !!! Do them next :)
    But first finish the salamander!!! The lava base was waaaaayyyy to yellow, and the hot rod flames need orange :)

  • @macaulylovatt8009
    @macaulylovatt8009 10 місяців тому +10

    Honestly I'd love to see your take on the legion of the damned or maybe a chapter with a metallic colour like the celestial lions either way love your work and looking forward to more

  • @nacidocoqui
    @nacidocoqui 10 місяців тому +4

    2:56 We're just gonna gloss over that, eh? There's... a lot to unpack here... 🤣 Great little kitbash, final result came out great!

  • @ChristianSanchez-qz7gk
    @ChristianSanchez-qz7gk 9 місяців тому +2

    8:57 The chapter symbol on the shoulder is backwards 😮

  • @sir_ridley388
    @sir_ridley388 9 місяців тому +1

    all the extra bits that makes salamanders unique are my favorite part. also makes them great for 3d printing all their bits and bobs but that sandpaper idea is fantastic.

  • @DannyRollinson
    @DannyRollinson 10 місяців тому +19

    I think next chapter should be your take on Carcharodons! The shark chapter

  • @austagtheglorious4534
    @austagtheglorious4534 10 місяців тому +3

    The sand paper as scale hides is genius! I've been meticulously placing individual scales and it's madness!

  • @NigeyWigey
    @NigeyWigey 10 місяців тому +1

    The sandpaper trick is super good! You can definitely do a squad with little effort!

  • @valkainen7359
    @valkainen7359 10 місяців тому +4

    I'd like to see you do a really gnarly Iron Hands Space Marine, with bionic arms or legs, just full on embrace the "Flesh is Weak" vibe.

  • @MagicVerve
    @MagicVerve 2 місяці тому

    Man, your attitude and wisdom is by far, no competition, the best 40k content ive come across. You have a new lifelong subscriber.

  • @zeterzero4356
    @zeterzero4356 10 місяців тому +9

    Love this. Stealing that sand paper idea. Also SPACE SHARKS.

  • @TheDeadPoolfan
    @TheDeadPoolfan 10 місяців тому +4

    You gotta do a crimson fist marine ,a soul drinker, Excoriators, a executioners, and imperial fist marines and then you can have a last wall protocol kill team with your black templar

  • @elfbait3774
    @elfbait3774 10 місяців тому +3

    Crimson Fists have always been a favorite of mine, since Rogue Trader.
    Personally, I think no other chapter has been done more dirty by GW than them. They were the OG poster children for the game. Right up on the cover of the book and the first plastic boxed set. Somehow, the Ultramarines eclipsed them and then more chapters came on the scene that kep pushing them further into the background.

  • @xtremeslayten9534
    @xtremeslayten9534 10 місяців тому +2

    Blood angels would undoubtedly look amazing in your painting style

  • @stefanhirschvogel254
    @stefanhirschvogel254 10 місяців тому +10

    Great job, sometimes its just about the fun and not to collect an army. I would love to see a carcharodon next 😁

  • @LordMuelli
    @LordMuelli 10 місяців тому +5

    Nice Job with the Salamander! Would love to see your version of Crimson Fists!

  • @Sliperypickle000
    @Sliperypickle000 10 місяців тому +3

    as a salamander player seeing those kitbashed sanding paper dragonskins i am so happy because i never thought of that and i wanted more customization that dosent require printing! also can we get more specific details on that needle allocator thingy you used to make the centers of the greenstuff balls for the skins?

  • @mattfalk85
    @mattfalk85 2 місяці тому

    That was awesome! I’m Just getting into 40k myself and I went with the salamanders! I like their compassion for humanity

  • @lampario2862
    @lampario2862 10 місяців тому

    I'm new to 40k, decided on salamanders, and just finished building my space marine half of the leviathan box last night. The timing of this video is awesome! Thanks man

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 10 місяців тому +18

    VULKAN LIVES!

  • @MrFairbanksak1
    @MrFairbanksak1 9 місяців тому +2

    "Space marines are the good guys"
    Sir. SIR.

  • @virgilromero3252
    @virgilromero3252 10 місяців тому

    Solid work on the Salamander! I’ve about 10k worth of them, currently finishing up the last of the first company detachment and a helmeted version of Adrax.
    Thank you for the sand paper tip, I’ll give it a shot with 50 grit on my judiciar kitbash

  • @KevinoftheCosmos
    @KevinoftheCosmos 10 місяців тому

    You are so freakin good at improvising creatively with materials. One of the many reasons that you're my favorite minis channel.

  • @zzorz1023
    @zzorz1023 10 місяців тому

    Blood Angels will always be Space Marines for me. But the blaze orange ones of my youth 💅 lately I've been doing like you and just painting one-offs of different chapters. Will definitely do a Salamander now 🫰

  • @Jared-Whitfield
    @Jared-Whitfield Місяць тому

    You helped me narrow down what army i wanna build . Its between raven guard and salamanders . Now i gotta choose lol

  • @SamuelWorsdale-yh6gm
    @SamuelWorsdale-yh6gm 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you Jay! There just isn’t enough Salamanders content out there!

  • @almightygyro
    @almightygyro 10 місяців тому

    Coming from a salamanders player, I'm so glad you did this and you've given me some good ideas to spice mine up. Thanks!

  • @alessiodecarolis
    @alessiodecarolis 10 місяців тому

    You just showed how with simple things we can improve also a regular SM. I started to follow your tutorials for bases, and they'd been very useful. A cheap alternative for resin could be two part epoxy glue, I used it mixed with red paint for a bloody lava's base, and was very good .

  • @treyturner9707
    @treyturner9707 10 місяців тому

    As a Salamanders player I am shocked by how good those sandpaper scales came out and I don't know how no one else has ever thought of it before

  • @ThicknSwift
    @ThicknSwift 10 місяців тому +1

    Salamanders player here, just wanted you to know I’m definitely going to be stealing the the sandpaper scales in the future it looks awesome. 😊

  • @joshvalenti9154
    @joshvalenti9154 10 місяців тому

    The sandpaper idea is genuinely a game changer ill definitely be using this when i get around to building my salamanders

  • @CynicFenrir
    @CynicFenrir 10 місяців тому +4

    Some Kroot marines would be cool to see. Or a small short of single character marines from Custom chapters. Have a short form facts sheet and you can go through pick a few or rng who’s chapters make an appearance

  • @bikzimusmaximus5250
    @bikzimusmaximus5250 10 місяців тому

    A fun thing people do over in gunpla is using pink primer for reds, so if that is a new or enticing concept, you could try painting a blood angel next.

  • @djsaunter
    @djsaunter 10 місяців тому

    Always happy to see Salamanders get some love. I was excited they got added to the stock transfer sheet (feel bad for Raven guard players that were bypassed for a successor, though Raptors are cool and those players must be super excited).
    I feel like the drake head on the left pauldron is backwards though.
    Similar to tattoos, I feel like you want the nose of a face/creature pointed to the front centre.
    I might try that gritty sandpaper trick myself, I like it. Maybe use Vallejo Plastic Putty to add little spikes/spines here and there like on Adrax's cloak

  • @blepkip8347
    @blepkip8347 10 місяців тому +11

    The Sons Of The Phoenix have an amazing scheme and style (and some spicy lore) and dont get as nearly as much love as they should

  • @GregPetrick
    @GregPetrick 10 місяців тому

    Great Job! I'm working on painting my Leviathan Space Marines as Salamanders and this got me even more excited!

  • @Jimothyjohns
    @Jimothyjohns 10 місяців тому +3

    0:46 Jay's talking a lot of smack about Space Marines considering he's within purging distance

  • @DaBearSquid42
    @DaBearSquid42 10 місяців тому +1

    Love this series Jay! Really fun watching you paint up a new and unfamiliar chapter for a day

  • @da.jo.kerrrr
    @da.jo.kerrrr 10 місяців тому

    THAT LOOKS AWESOME! As a salamanders player, I LOVED THIS.

  • @MentoliptusBanko
    @MentoliptusBanko 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for listening to my comment and painting a Salamander. The only loyal space marine I painted in my life is a Salamander (I paint chaos space marines and chaos demons mostly) because my son (who paints blue space marines) wanted me to paint "one of his minis" with him. So I chose the most cool...I mean most hot, chapter to paint :)

  • @MrAevans3
    @MrAevans3 10 місяців тому

    looks great...I'm primarily a chaos marine and Aeldari/harlequin collector, but I somehow always end up with a starter box for the new editions, so I have a slowly growinng Red Hunters army that I use as a pallette cleanser when I need tppaint sommething different.

  • @TDavis1121
    @TDavis1121 5 місяців тому

    I use the sandpaper idea on all of my sergeants and heroes it’s awesome. And I use the speed paint mixture with just an extra drop of shamrock green

  • @EpicSmith9311
    @EpicSmith9311 10 місяців тому

    I know another black scheme must sound miserable to paint, but I would genuinely love your take on a really good batch paintable recipe for Raven Guard. Or maybe something challenging like Grey Knights, where you try out a NMM versus TMM scheme and see which one comes out on top!

  • @halocombatevolvedmagnum612
    @halocombatevolvedmagnum612 10 місяців тому

    Definitely going to try this. It’s been too much of a hassle to track down templates and materials to recreate scale hide for my guys and this looks perfect!

  • @ryane.3539
    @ryane.3539 10 місяців тому

    This year I was going back and forth between World Eaters and Salamanders. After spending so many hours painting trim on the World Eaters… I am starting to wish I went with the Sallys.

  • @ethansayers3318
    @ethansayers3318 10 місяців тому

    This was awesome! I'm enjoying the little series going on here. Now that you've painted a Salamander, what more could I want? Blood Angels would be pretty neat!

  • @Drummercommander
    @Drummercommander 10 місяців тому

    I asked if you could tackle a Salamander a short while back and you obliged :D Awesome looking model! I love how you kept the backpack black: it's already detailed enough

  • @oceanman1687
    @oceanman1687 10 місяців тому +3

    Great work as usual man. Absolutely nailed it 👍

  • @figureartout
    @figureartout 10 місяців тому

    I Recently Painted a Salamander on my Channel and I loved it. Yours Looks Awesome, I love the sandpaper tip Thanks

  • @Why_does_this_exist_YouTube
    @Why_does_this_exist_YouTube 9 місяців тому

    I would love to see more of these videos of standalone chapters. On the topic of what chapters to do, I would say the Raven guard, the idea for them is just cool

  • @foreverfornever1124
    @foreverfornever1124 10 місяців тому

    Fun tid bit for any space marine fans out there, Killteam is actually the way to go if you want to dabble in other chapters. I own Salamanders. yet all 3 of my current space marine teams are painted in crimson fist, space wolves, and raven guard, all being jazzed up with unique bits to get them extra special since Ill never own these amries. Im looking forward to the Scouts as I want them to be Dark angels with a more medieval asethetic, sort of like knight squires

  • @graefx
    @graefx 10 місяців тому

    I'm really impressed with the sandpaper scales. I've never seen that before and the result is brilliant. Though I'd be a little worried over it's durability.

  • @timothyjohnson2350
    @timothyjohnson2350 10 місяців тому +1

    Hey man, I really like your videos and you've got some really great stuff in them. I'm a Salamanders player and I gotta say the base had great potential but you made a toxic spill instead of lava. What's up with that man? On the other hand, the sandpaper is a genius idea!

  • @MrArbiter103
    @MrArbiter103 10 місяців тому

    A minotaur space marine would be a great next project, as it would be a great opportunity to see if your "dry brushing metallics over a non-metallic base coat" technique would work on a whole model. Plus theres lots of opportunity for kitbashing

  • @drakewilson6369
    @drakewilson6369 3 місяці тому

    Hey I just wanted to see what yellow you used for the flames, or if citadel has a close shade. I’m doing Sally’s and look at this video often

  • @Skatzmangames
    @Skatzmangames 10 місяців тому

    Have you considered Deathwatch? you can mix match and customize to your hearts contempt. I enjoy putting details from different chapters on various squads and lets you play a small narrative when building them. Like an assault squad lead by blood angel or space wolf. The Novels are great and often highlight the fact that it is Marines from various Legions and chapters working together in squads.

  • @calumchamberlain2861
    @calumchamberlain2861 10 місяців тому

    Thank Jay for painting up one of my Lads.
    He looks awesome!!!!😁.
    Crimson fist , Blood Raven or a Raven Guard next? Maybe a Raptor if you haven't done one yet ?

  • @SwabianClancy
    @SwabianClancy 10 місяців тому

    I've been thinking for months about how I can simulate lizard skin without having to do a lot of modelling. I've never come across sandpaper, but this is brilliant. I'll give it a try.

  • @MyOwnUTube1
    @MyOwnUTube1 10 місяців тому +2

    As a salamnders collector I hope GW sees this and gives them more love 😢

  • @jameslisle22
    @jameslisle22 10 місяців тому

    Man, I love a good Salad-mander. Who would have thought that after painting like seventy of them, Jay could still give me new ideas?
    Small lore nitpick: according to the codex, the salamander on the shoulder pad should be rampant - that is too say, facing forward. However, since I'm a pretty firm believer in "do what you want," ehhhhhh

  • @WastelandGod
    @WastelandGod 10 місяців тому +1

    Hi Jay, Do you use any airbrush thinner or airbrush flow improver at all when varnishing with the Vallejo Satin Mecha Varnish? If so what kind of ratios are you using? Thank you in advance!

  • @thekeaton9578
    @thekeaton9578 10 місяців тому +2

    Funny I was painting salamanders last night and I thought how would rob paint it well I guess I have my answer 😂great paint job as always

  • @magnuschristiansen7941
    @magnuschristiansen7941 10 місяців тому +1

    wow what a good ide i am defiently stealing that ide with a rough sand paper thanks you sir

  • @keeganpatrick2051
    @keeganpatrick2051 10 місяців тому

    That turned out great! I love seeing them get some attention. As a Salamanders player my only gripe is that the Salamander transfer is backwards on his left shoulder

  • @Tharbiskahn
    @Tharbiskahn 10 місяців тому

    I'd love to see your take on either the thousands sons or the Alpha legion. I don't particularly care for the legions in story, but their color schemes are super vibrant and cool in my opinion; especially the Thousand Sons.

  • @louimath5520
    @louimath5520 10 місяців тому

    One trick I've seen for yellows is to use either pink or magenta as a base and then go over with yellows. Helps make it pop a lot

  • @Ragnarok6664
    @Ragnarok6664 3 місяці тому

    Love it, absolutely my favorite Astartes Chapter, was slightly worried about the lack of ”unique” models/chapter kits available

  • @chaosof99
    @chaosof99 10 місяців тому +1

    Yay Salamanders! Great job on painting the best chapter. I'll definitely have to try the sandpaper trick on a character model at some point.
    And as valid as the critique on Citadel contrasts is, Karandras green is the best color for Salamanders armor. You just have to paint with a big brush and/or quickly, and since it will be the first color you put down over the undercoat you can be as messy as you want anyway.
    Also, you put the wrong dragon head decal on his left shoulder. The Dragon's head always faces forward, similar to how american flags are oriented on soldiers uniforms. However, you made the right choice on the right pauldron with the flame. All Salamanders have the Flame and not the battle role symbols, something I myself only learned recently and I own north of 6000 points of Salamanders.

  • @paulvl4433
    @paulvl4433 10 місяців тому

    Dark Kraken are a really cool Successor chapter of the Salamanders, they come from an ocean planet and do all of their training underwater. You don't see a lot of depictions of underwater combat in 40k, so I think you could do A LOT of unique stuff with them, especially going into that deep sea aspect by painting Heavy intercessors, their gravis armor would be perfect for deep sea combat.

  • @dellboy15
    @dellboy15 10 місяців тому +1

    This looks so good! What grit of sandpaper did you use? I need to try this on my Salamanders!

  • @anazron805811
    @anazron805811 10 місяців тому

    Have you considered painting some chaos? I'd love to see how you paint a Thousand Sons Rubric or Sorcerer with your painting methods, if you have a few days to do all the trim.

  • @kalebkj0926
    @kalebkj0926 10 місяців тому

    Someone said it but a little more orange probably woulda sold the lava a little better (could be just the camera pumping up that yellow lol) also I wonder if you painted the bubbles like a grey/black/dark red since when the bubbles get pushed up they start to cool since the skin of the lava is so thin and contacting cooler air.
    All in all super awesome paint scheme! Love the channel keep up the awesome work!!

  • @Imber_Pluma
    @Imber_Pluma 6 місяців тому

    have you done the split off from the salamanders, the black dragons yet? I'm thinking about starting up an army of them and would like to see some ideas for getting the adamantine bone claws/horns done.

  • @slow_runner
    @slow_runner 10 місяців тому

    Simple yellow flames yes! I find that it's the way to go unless you want to drive yourself nuts freehanding the flames with multiple colors.

  • @damiengoulet2396
    @damiengoulet2396 10 місяців тому

    Every so often, I imagine a situation involving a Salamander meeting one of his relative and it always makes me smile. Like, imagine a salamander marine, this 8 feet tall, 400 pounds of muscle and grit, beast of a man visiting his grandma. She hugs him and goes like "you look scrawny compared to the last time I saw you, are you sure they are feeding you enough on duty ?"

  • @benives254
    @benives254 10 місяців тому

    Your segways into the patreon are becoming almost seamless!
    😉
    The sandpaper is genius!

  • @Sharklops
    @Sharklops 5 місяців тому

    That hint of OSL with the yellow glow really brings it together

  • @Yakkahboo
    @Yakkahboo 10 місяців тому

    I use Army painter speed paint for the most part but ive started using vallejo xpress as well. particularly Lotus Black. That stuff is magic.

  • @chrismattock9557
    @chrismattock9557 10 місяців тому

    The sandpaper / dragon skin is such a great idea !
    Well done.

  • @pres1974
    @pres1974 10 місяців тому

    It would be awesome to see you do one on lesser known chapters similar to what the Lich's Laboratory did. I always enjoy seeinf he weirder less common color schemes being realized.

  • @cheevocabra
    @cheevocabra 10 місяців тому

    STOMP STOMP! The sand paper idea is genius! Love the channel and thanks for giving our Sallies some love!

  • @harkinsaquatics
    @harkinsaquatics 10 місяців тому

    As a 24 year long Salamanders player. I have 100 heresy marines and Vulkan, over 350 old marines and a whole mechanized unit and of course I have about 125 primaris marines. It's been a love hate relationship with the flames and the darkness. My marines have gone from forest green in the heresy to classic marine and now my primaris are almost bright green. I have moved them along to make them appear less scary and more a hope of the imperium.

  • @why22214
    @why22214 10 місяців тому

    Love the look of the sand paper gotta try it on my devastators

  • @CopperAndCutGrass
    @CopperAndCutGrass 9 місяців тому

    That sandpaper for salamander skin trick would have been hella handy back when I was working on Salamanders. Kinda makes me itch to revisit them.

  • @thevincatYT
    @thevincatYT 10 місяців тому

    I think Dark Angels next is a no brainer! There is hype from all the recent releases so there will be a built-in audience. Plus, I'm getting back into the hobby after about 15 years and starting a Dark Angels army, so I'd selfishly love some tips :)

  • @broncofun5636
    @broncofun5636 10 місяців тому

    Another great video! What chapter have you painted so far? have you painted BA, yet? Maybe do a seguinian guard?

  • @CMDR_BananenKeks
    @CMDR_BananenKeks 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for the Sandpaper Idea. I was thinking about how I tackle my Salamanders and this make it super easy. One question though. If you go over the painted Sandpaper, does it still scratch?

  • @shootingstar0312
    @shootingstar0312 10 місяців тому

    Oh my god!
    The little bubbles and sand paper are BRILLIANT,
    Im gonna use that from now on
    Also im REALLY happy that i have a similar way of painting them
    But I do use Karandras green contrat paint from gw and also a zenithal, but i keep it lighter almost more grey
    And today i got army painter metalic contrast paints for gold and melta muzzles, they work beautifully
    I can recommend them if you havent tried them yet
    But it really makes me happy to see someone i look up to have a almost identical way of painting 😊

  • @erickavery1
    @erickavery1 10 місяців тому

    Brother Jay welcome to the best Chapter! Also its not a big deal but the shoulder trim on Sallys is green canonically but it looks really good gold.
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  • @elishafogel7351
    @elishafogel7351 5 місяців тому

    Hey, I just found your channel, this is really cool stuff. I bought the Codex Adeptus Astartes: Space Marines and started reading the lore. I was wondering where I can start to read about the Salamanders, I really liked them when they came up in the codex and want to learn more.