live concord CA 1987
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2012
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1-25 or 6 to 4 (newer version)
2-You're The Inspiration
3-Forever
4-Will You Still Love Me
5-D bailey-B champlin solo
6-Please Hold On
7-One More Day
8-Dialogue I & II
9-It's Alright
10-Hard Habit To Break
11-Hard To Say I'm Sorry
12-Feeling Stronger Everyday (Reprise)/25 or 6 to 4 (older version)
13-Midnight Hour
14-Knock On Wood
15-I'm A Man
16-Get Away (Reprise)
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It was heaven hearing Forever live when l saw them in 87 in Milwaukee. They played a bunch of goodies off 18. Didn't miss a beat after Cetera
Say what you want about the 80's / Foster era Chicago, but this is an outstanding concert performance!
Bill’s vocals were at their peak in this era.
Wow! Jason nailed it on please hold on! Play that base!
Love it! Thanks for posting. It seems like now they play the same twelve song set for all of their shows.
Amen! And when they try something new (playing Chicago II in its entirety) the audience gets restless and upset. People want to hear the same songs in the same order every dadgum show. And the current tribute act they have become gives it to them, collects the check, and goes home.
1-25 or 6 to 4 (newer version) 0:00
2-You're The Inspiration 4:38
3-Forever 10:20
4-Will You Still Love Me 18:43
5-D bailey-B champlin solo 24:33
6-Please Hold On 27:24
7-One More Day 31:32
8-Dialogue I & II 35:48
9-It's Alright 43:29
10-Hard Habit To Break 49:05
11-Hard To Say I'm Sorry 54:32
12-Feeling Stronger Everyday (Reprise)/25 or 6 to 4 (older version) 58:00
13-Midnight Hour 1:08:02
14-Knock On Wood 1:10:34
15-I'm A Man 1:12:55
16-Get Away (Reprise) 1:18:52
Thank you for that... how come I can never find a Dawayne Bailey version of questions 67 and 68? Chicago didn't put it in their set list in those years, one of their best song. I always wanted to see how Bailey would do that song , I have not found it anywhere yet
@@scottydog62 love that song but not much for the guitarist to play. i loved Dawayne, too bad he did the dirty dance with Paranzaider's daughter
@@dfgall I never heard the whole story,I know she is an activist and free spirit
Jason sounds so good!!
Thank you for posting. Very nice!!!
Peter Cetera has a good tenor voice but he's such an egomaniac. Chicago is still the greatest rock band without Cetera. They don't need him. Never have.
I left this big kind of thoughtful comment then lost the channel i had left it with. So anyway the Yamaha DX7's sound great and this "Inspiration" is a solid performance. Always like Chicago's use of synth bass. Jason's bass playing here is fluid and flawless. He never forgets a fill. He does tend to rush, but it just gives the music a little more groove and urgency.
Please add chapters (via timestamps) sometime so I can link people to specific songs more easily. Thank you.
Love this thanks!
Loved this. How I wish they would perform more of their lesser known repertoire in a live setting like they did on this recording. It would make for a much more interesting musical experience for the attuned listener. Plus, so many of their greatest compositions never made the radio. Thank you so much for sharing. Hearing "Forever", "It's Alright", & "Niagra Falls" for the very first time in a live setting made the thirty year wait worth it! ;0)
Forever is an album cut classic. Lamm gets this one good!!!!
When you're touring to promote a NEW recording, you play some songs off record. When there's no new music, you play the hits because that's what the majority of the audience expects to hear.
There is no Niagara Falls here (can't imagine why) but there is another 1987 live version. It could come from the same source.
They sounded great here. Perfect mix of synthecization and raw instrument playing. Vocally stunning as well. I saw them in 1988, they played some tunes off of 19 and they were great as well. I continued to see them 3 more times in the 90s, but they quit making new music by then so I quit seeing them. They became a tribute band in the 90s and I got tired of it, but I still love their music. They should've experimented with their sound more in the 90s and toured less. They could've made more beautiful music if they put in more time and effort.
Please hold on kicks ass
Chicago at their post Cetera best!
Yep. Jason fooled me here a couple times, he sounds GREAT here
Wow, a live version of One More Day?
Best live concert on UA-cam
This was the peak of the post Cetera Chicago. These guys were cooking' here! Unfortunately, it didn't last and the last 30 years the band has never gotten back to the combined vocal and instrumental excellence you are hearing here. In the 90's, Champlin got bored and Jason just had the daunting task of filling Peter's shoes, which vocally, very people on the planet are capable of doing.
+TruthHurts58 Unfortunately, not even Cetera can now sing as Cetera once sang. Aging sucks.
Poor Champlin just wanted to keep making new music and play it in Concert not just keep relying on the same old song's (he wrote a great song about it, it was almost a cry of help to the band members) DaWayne sound's great here as well.
Wow Forever sounds better live then the studio version
Michael Wright Plaid?
dfgall No it was a song from one of his solo albums from the 90's, I think it's called "same Ol' Song" that's how the chorus goes no beating around the bush with Champlin lol, I think even Jason is on backing vocals too, (can you imagine what the big four band members thought when he brought that song in)
awesome post!!!it seems just a tad bit slow...or maybe it's my ear.
Will you still love me at it's best
This is great.
Jason and Bill trading verses on Feeling Stronger Everyday. Interesting.
They all sound good and tight!
Awesome. 🎸🎶🎹🎷🎺🥁
I can't imagine any Chicago concert without Beginnings, Saturday in the Park, Make Me Smile and Just You N Me.
+RepriseFan Saturday, "Smile" and "JYNM" were performed, just not included in the boradcast.
The 18 Tour concert was nearly three hours long. The entire show was not included in this broadcast.
I think Robert is singing live with his recorded singing in Forever, anybody else hear a weird echo, not present in any other number.
I enjoyed many Chicago concerts from 1971 to 1985. I attended one last time in 1986, after Cetera had left the band, and it was the only time that I left the show before it ended. It didn't sound anything like the Chicago that I had known.
Too bad the live version of Just You And Me isn't included. Saw them in 87 and Walt's soprano sax solo on it is a rock jazz funk classic
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I love Jason very much. Among the fanbase, the people who know me so much, knows how much of a big fan I am of his, and how much I love him and admire him for his immense talent and sweet personality, and for all he had to go through. I have defended him so much through all my life on message forums, and I always had believed in his big vocal and songwriting talent, and I've always defended that Jason should cultivate his own personality and style, and he could be the best artist he can, if he puts all his desire and focus into it.😌
Having said this, I have to say that I got to the conclusion that Jason was still very green and immature vocally at the moment he joined Chicago. Obviously, he was not still prepared for that role, when it comes on the vocal level. He was still not prepared specifically for the role of being the Peter Cetera substitute. Peter was always so applauded and even overrated for his unique, extremely high voice. That was the principal thing that characterized him. And that was the reason people praised him so much all the time, apart from having some big hits during the seventies and eighties with songs written by himself.
I think that Jason was too young, first, and by the time he joined Chicago, he still was not in enough vocal shape...for such a big role. In these concert, he sounds too weak and insecure. In fact, Jason have stated that he actually didn't trusted enough his vocal capacity, that he didn't liked what he heard when he recorded his voice on a tape. (His mom paid for a vocal class with reputated vocal couch Seth Riggs, but his lessons were expensive and I think it was just a single class, I'm not sure.) Even on his signature song "Will You Still Love Me" he sounds insecure, and maybe that's why Bill Champlin always had to be there, to serve as a supporting vocalist, but what Bill actually did was oversing excesively and overshadow Jason even more.
I think Jason still lacked enough vocal experience, and I have heard rumours that he was the only one that really auditioned. Seems like the management was in a hurry to find someone pretty quick, and, after trying to get artists like Richard Marx and Richard Page interested and they both said no, Jason was the only one that was really available at the time.
On this show he sounds too low and restricted, like too shy, and we know that Peter's vocals were always too rude and agressive and solid enough, a very high tenor that always felt so confident, so convincing, always sounded too hard. And Chicago fans were always so used to his vocals and so in love with his voice. It was a real challenge to find someone to that level of experience and vocal confidence. For me, and probably for so many others for years, Jason wasn't still ready in that sense. But even that way, the Originals went with Jason because he was a very good bass player, had the best desire to do things right and being part of the band with big illusion...and he was such a nice guy. Besides, his voice color was similar to that of Peter's, and he could be so moldable, right? (Specially to David Foster's favor😒😈.) That's why Chicago loved Jason so much, and even protected him really hard against all critics. They didn't change their minds.
On other circumstances, had not Peter ever existed, the story may had been very different, and Jason would have probably been so very welcomed, and really loved by people since day one.
In time Jason got better, and developed a major vocal confidence and therefore sang with much more strenght and powerful vocals. Meanwhile, he suffered so much from hard critics, comparisons, and rejection from people...and I feel so bad for him because of all what he had to face. All the unfair rejection. 😔 He's an angel and a true hero.💗👼🏼🦸♂️🌟
He just has to focus in being the best Jason Scheff that he can, and being the greatest singer, songwriter, musician and performer he could, if he really wants too. He doesn't need, anymore, nor should have ever needed, to be like someone else. Just like himself, Jason Scheff.💖
Jason did the best he could under the circumstances. Bill Champlin told John Bolden on "ROCK HISTORY (3yrs ago) that Jason had pitch problems while replacing Cetera and that Scheff is a better singer now since he also left Chicago (in 2016) as Champlin and Scheff had worked together since both have been exmembers of that band. Also Peter Cetera had said in interviews that he felt they had him vocally TOO HIGH on many songs during his years in Chicago and singers even the original singer will deal with "sing it this way" or "sing it that way" . Lou Gramm from Foreigner had said on joining Foreigner, "Mick Jones had me doing things vocally I hadn't done before, I really had to stretch." So what Jason went through replacing Cetera was very typical, he was the new guy. Cetera did lower the keys on many of his song years later and on his "PERFECT WORLD (2001) Album. Not just because of his age but mainly , Cetera himself was NOT comfortable singing so high. He said all this during his solo years . He was smart to retire before he lost all of his singing voice.
I read somewhere that Walt didn't play the great sax solo in Forever on the album, but didn't believe it. I believe it now after hearing him give it his standard solo treatment on this live version. I hope I'm wrong, but it really doesn't sound even close to the great solo on the album, which is a different style and vastly superior. I don't know who played on the album (Marty Grebb?), they weren't given credit. Zader's a talented musician, but lacking as a great sax soloist. Nowhere near Kenny Garret or Wayne Shorter and a lot of other great soloists. Still love ya, Walt! Forgive me if I'm wrong...
pankfan60 Walt is not a great soloist. Oh, well. He gets by.
Walt is an original, but Ray Herrmann is a better musician.
Nice to see the horn boys get some action on forever yo homeboys.
I like Jason, he’s a good replacement for Peter Cetera
Skip to around 35:30 for Dialogue and all the goodness that follows it.
Use your regular drum kit!
Dialogue- need to loosen up a bit too stiff
The song called Forever doesn’t have the Chicago signature. The horns give a little clue that it’s Chicago I know and love. Once all the original members are gone, they need to change the name of the band
I know I’m a critic but I critiqued Chicago for a very long time. I noticed the tempo changes, key changes and timing changes in a song. It just so happens I was right , validated by the band members themselves.
Yay for both versions of 25 or 6 to 4: the shit version ('86 remake) and the real version ('70 original)
Hard To Say I’m Sorry- what happened to the horns, without them it leaves a void like something’s missing.
The sound like a shirt 😂
Stronger Every Day- someone else should sink the lead vocal
Thats Bill Champlin on "Feeling Stronger everyday" doing the verses lol.
Please let someone else sing the lead vocal for Stronger Everyday
The essence of Chicago is absent
They may have not missed a beat but the essential of Chicago is absent
Nobody can do Chicago like the ormembers of
Nobody can do Chicago like the original band members, although some of the replacement members are a fit
Chicago should have been inducted into the Music Hall of Fame at least after Terry Kath died
if not before his death
They already did it in 2016
Gosh, Bill Champlin always wants the protagonic role all the time. Wasn't Jason supposed to be the lead vocalist on You're the Inspiration?? It's not a duet!
Is like Bill always wanted to highlight himself!! I dislike it!!🤨
Jason probably liked Bill filling in gaps on the songs he sang. A display of vocal unity.
Probably because Jason had a difficult time with the high notes !
I Still Miss Jason!😢❤
Bill, I Didn't Miss.