A bit more updated than the old locomotives but you're on right track 😂😂😂, bought Nissan Qastqai epower myself here in Ireland 🇮🇪 and I'm very very keen and happy with it .just wasn't doing the kms we're were doing in the past. Good and solid on roads and very comfortable but I've always found the Qastqai very comfortable and I've enjoyed driving the Qastqa , this is our fourth just cannot leave them😢.
Sounds like D-VHS (Digital VHS), the new video recording standard Philips tried to introduce to replace VHS instead of DVD 💿 . Old technology in new clothes...
my nissan 2016 Qashqai gives 6.2 L/100 km.. happy with it. i love how stable it is on motorway and feels solid. have bought note e-power for city driving though
Is she petrol or diesel? My Nissan Pulsar (petrol) gives 7.1L/100km and she's going strong.. would only be tempted if I could trade in to get the New epower qashqai if it came under 30,000
This technology is what they should have promoted instead of full EV cars. It's a genius idea. Engine acts asa generator to charge a battery. Less revs, less strain on the engine and more economical. It's also better for the planet because it uses smaller batteries and you don't have to dig up half the world to install ev chargers.
Honestly i find the argument that a cylinder engine isnt better than an electric motor on the drive shaft. Its elegant, responsive and easy to maintain. If we can use petrol / diesel with an ev motor i think its the way.
It's an Internal Combustion Electric Vehicle - an EV. EV is just the drivetrain, the electric motors and regen allowing you to drive a car with electricity and recover some of it when braking. Battery EVs (BEVs) carry their energy in a huge heavy battery. Hydrogen EVs carry their energy in tanks and convert it to electricity in a Fuel Cell (FCEVs). This carries its energy in hydrocarbon fuel and converts it to electricity with a generator, in a way *not dissimilar to the mains electricity you charge a BEV with coming from fossil gas power stations*. This is far more sensible than a bet-hedging hybrid. Seems ideal for all those people who'd like an EV but living in a flat or terrace precludes cable charging.
That's driving a noisy and slow diesel, here you have 190hp with under 8s acceleration and smooth and quiet EV driving feel. Seems like a good progress to me
@@baronxsa some ppl like me actually enjoy the diesel and turbo noise. Not everyone wants a dead silent car. The fuel economy is more important for me especially when I drive 500miles to work every 2 weeks. Also consider that this type of approach is more complex than a simple diesel engine.
Yesterday We were talking about getting EVs but we also looked at prices for Honda generators to put in the trunk. Today I saw this video. I guess We were not so crazy as our purist friends suggested. Now one of the most important question is how the taxes for this car is calculated. Its motor is not part of the drive train so its an EV so it should be taxed as an EV but it has an engine...If its taxed as a normal car then its pointless. I totally agree with the Hybrid CVT transmissions... After talking to the Nissan dealer and find out the tax I will decided.
@@carsguide No you don't need to plug in a Volt if you don't want to. The petrol engine can be used as generator to charge the battery, but why wouldn't you plug it in, it's cheaper to run that way. I guess a bonus for the Nissan is it will escape the up coming road usage charges the EVs and PHEVs will be subjected to.
I liked the review, however this is not new; sort of. The GM-volt did pretty much the same thing, only better. You could go about 70km on a charge, and if you run out of electricity, the generator kicked in for about another 500km of range. This was followed by the BMW i3, which did exactly the same thing, but gave you 120km of range on electricity before the generator kicked in, giving about 160km extra range. The volt came out about 10 years ago, and the BMW i3 a couple of years after. I have owned both these cars, and I got them because of the generator. As stated, this concept is not new, and relies on petrol. It gets the efficiency, smoothness, and instant power of electricity, but you must recharge with petrol - your outlet to recharge the battery is simply cheaper and cleaner. GM and BMW got it right at the time. Now however, the range in modern batteries is much better, and now days you do not need a generator.
Having spun the sums, I cannot see how anyone could save a $ over the conventional model in the life-time of the vehicle. It is not an EV, it is a petrol-electric vehicle that has a battery about the size of 2 or 3 e-bike batteries. I hope any purchaser is more diligent on their research than relying on a few well-lubed journalists.
It’s a hybrid, not an EV. It’s an amazing setup that was done by the Chevy Volt years ago. Is Carsales on drugs???? An EV is an electric only vehicle, a hybrid has an ICE sitting in it. So by that metric a diesel electric locomotive is an EV so forget the Diesel engine it’s all electric baby.
This car has a lot of other features similar to an EV, eg no gears, better acceleration, more power. Wouldnt just be looking at fuel efficiency as a reason to buy this car..
I have been driving a BMW i3 REx for the last 8 years. It has the same kind of series hybrid arrangement as in the Nissan. However, it has a charging socket, with CCS rapid option and can be run entirely as an EV for shorter journeys and longer trips, if you have the time to stop for charging. This car is nothing new and continues to tie the driver to ever more expensive fossil fuel.
@@cpeden71. The i3 REx 94 Ah (UK/EU spec) offers ~120 miles (~190 km) electric range with a further ~80 miles (~130 km) petrol range. The later spec 120 Ah US models offer ~160 miles (~260 km) of electric range.
Quite a different car. The Nissan is driven primarily by the engine, with the tiny battery (more a capacitor really) providing extra power when needed for overtakes etc. The BMW is a true EV which has a full sized battery with associated range. The Nissan's "battery" is computer charged, meaning it can probably maintain greater longevity, while the BMW will be charged and discharged depending on the user. Replacing the Nissan's "battery" would like be much cheaper given the smaller size.
Can someone tell me if performance is constant, can gasoline engine generate enough electricity and keep up when battery is empty, for full power? Is there lag? what happens if you drive fast for longer, uphill, high speeds, etc..? I am curios what are downsides of this design...
So its a newer version of the GM volt, that was dropped by GM (and existed for a time as the Opel Ampera). Whats not mentioned, is that most of these cars were bought as diesel, as petrol was less fuel efficient, gov taxes were more expensive as it emitted more C02. So now we have a petrol powered Nissan SUV with epower covering the fuel efficiency. If you want a half-way house- would a PHEV not be the answer - offering EV power around slow town trips and a gas engine for longer trips or above a certain speed. PHEVs also switch from EV to gas engine use automatically (unless you force one mode for a reason). What PHEV is currently missing is decent EV range. What Nissan is offering is their version of a Prius without the; diesel issues over exhaust cleaning and low speed dirt (plus all the adblue messing). While Diesel is currently more expensive than gas, that will change (hopefully). I can see this working in Transit type vans where business want to clean up their transport, dump diesel (if they could) and get similar to diesel fuel economy (and all the low speed diesel engine problems and expensive exhaust maintenance) while pretending to be EV quiet (and therefore it must be a "zero" emissions EV). I guess Nissan is hedging its bets vs the similar Pure EV - Araya. From the car maker that launched the seminal EV Leaf, this seems a backward step - unless this is the answer to their US fuel efficiency issues for larger vehicles where only a bigger/more expensive battery would work in a PHEV and where incentives are missing for these hybrids and PHEVs.
The fuel economy is very disappointing. It also needs a bigger battery that you can charge. It would make a good EV commuter with the ability go on a road trip. Alas, Nissan have managed to build a less efficient hybrid.
This feels like saying you can avoid gravity if you can pick up your feet with your hands, if it has a petrol engine then it has emissions regardless of what is powering the wheels.
I have been driving BEVs for 14 years & have never suffered from range anxiety or had a battery run flat. I'm on my 5th BEV & most of my journeys are long ones.
Well said!! I’m on my 3rd BEV over 6 years. 118K later, only one balls up (my fault) where I ran out of charge. If you plan ahead you don’t have range anxiety.
Wow 5th.BEV in 14 years Wilkin One and Kia E- Niro 3 cars in 6 years have you guys got money to burn 🔥 buying all these new cars is good for the environment , but it is even better for the car manufacturers
@@MrTpain1945 2 were used cars & the 5th has been held up by the war in Ukraine it's a Skoda. If some don't buy new cars, where will the used cars come from?
I’m interested to see what the costs of servicing the e-power vs petrol model is. My interest in the e-power is to see if the day to day costs are less with the e-power & if it’s a nicer drive. I love my current 2017 qashqai but it’s outdated, out of warranty & even if I have to buy the petrol model first just to upgrade now I will then trade in for the e power when it’s released.
@@twotwinningcavs it really depends on how long you keep the car. Ive seen prius’ come in that are 15+ years old with 200k+ miles on them for battery replacement, which is a couple thousand usd. But most owners wont even keep their car for that long, plus with hybrid brakes, you will have much less brake wear. Generally, for most of its life, a hybrid vehicle will have about the same or even less servicing costs
You wouldn't necessarily get the battery replaced. You could have it refurbished at the fraction of the cost of replacing it. You don't replace your engine if it develops a fault. You have it repaired. It's exactly the same with EV battery packs.....
Yeah, you can't charge it at home, you get to go to the expensive gas station all the time! Chevy Volt did this a long time ago and is now discontinued.
Nissan ,lotus, and others start this project long time also, but lack of research on your part, never realize e-power is derive from the project, but look up evora 414, by the way,the note came out 2016.
This would have been fantastic, 5 years ago. For the US watcher, it is 40mpg, which is not bad. 2.1KWh battery back is pretty tiny. At 40 plus thousand US dollars why not get a less complex EV.
@@Alex-fu1jj That's not an excuse anymore, for instance I'm in Connemara in the West of Ireland in our Renault Zoe, not many chargers around. I have just met a friend who has just driven from England in his Model 3 Tesla & he only has a granny cable with him. Where there's a will there's a way!!
@@wilkoone9155 of course that's the case, where there's a will, there's a way. But is it really how it should be? Cars are meant to be convenient, not requiring weird charging gymnastics when planning a journey.
A question...when released, will this model be subject to the EV/hybrid kilometres travelled tax that some states have already introduced in Australia ? (24 hrs later)..after research I understand that this specific vehicle is not subject to this tax👍
@@carsguide oh my bad. Must of missed that but. I assumed it was like the up coming Outlander PHEV as they are sharing this whole e power thing. Thanks for the info, be great to give it to VicGov on this count 🤣
@@carsguide so perhaps please stop calling it an EV, it is not an EV, it is an alternative type of hybrid. You put fuel in it, without fuel it would last no more than a couple of kilometres. Remember, as journalists you have a responsibility to educate the public property on new technology, people who don't bother to actually research might buy this thinking they have an EV, which is completely false.
So the most important feature of an EV which is not having to go to fill up with petrol is not available and you still have the noise from the petrol engine. What is the point?
You CAN NOT call this an electric vehicle. It is a Petrol vehicle witth an electric transmission instead of a mechanical transmission. It sources ALL of its energy from petrol.
This did sound very impressive to me initially. However, 5.3l/100km is not mind-blowing in this day and age and is a lousy mpg figure. It's the same 44 mpg as both the 1.5 Qashqai DCI and the 1.5 Dacia Duster DCI. It's pants mpg nowadays, and for me, not what I'm talking about. I'm sure I did see another review here on youtube that said this car gets a very impressive 64 to 69 mpg? A bit of a scam surely. 44mpg, wasn't even that impressive ten years ago. 20 years ago I suppose it was considered pretty good. Toyota and Honda have been doing Hybrids for a lot longer, and better, and they use a lot less fuel. My own 2013 Toyota Auris Hybrid gets at least 68 to 80 mpg UK, going along at a speed of 55 to 60 mph.
It would need a much larger battery ( 10 to 12 times more capacity) to make it a practical and viable PHEV..... This Nissan could not complete a 20 to 30 mile trip on battery alone, even at motorway speeds, whereas most PHEV's can.....
WHY? I could understand if you plug it in and just use the engine for long trips. But if the engine is running anyway it might as well be driving the wheels without power train losses.
Tell us which powertrain doesn't have loss, and if you are speaking about loss be greater, then time you research why locomotive use motor, and efficiency in modern motor drives.
Interesting to find out about this car. I was hoping to learn more from the viewer comments but was disappointed at having to wade through a number of abusive comments.
It’s not so different to the system used in Honda hybrids like the Jazz and Civic. They almost always power the wheels via a generator, inverter and electric motor with no gearbox, with the addition of a direct drive mode for high-speed cruising above 60 mph. Although Honda calls their system e-cvt, and like the Nissan it tries to simulate a regular gearbox for a more natural experience, it does not have a CVT gearbox. This wasn’t really a review was it?
The difference he says is that this is a series Hybrid (electric motor drives the wheels, petrol motor only charges the battery), while the Toyota is parallel hybrid (both petrol and electric motor drives the wheels and normally has a CVT gearbox)
same Honda, Nissan, Hyundai and who I may have left out. You may not know, but Nissan first hybrid was parallel hybrid sold only in japan in 2000 call tino hybrid, And it was no mild system it was real fully hybrid. use the same setup as the renault e-tech. Only difference is instead of the DHT it was CVT.
Seems a PHEV traditional would have been a much better choice. That, or a bigger chargeable battery so that daily driving could actually be in all EV mode and then use the generator for longer trips just like a true PHEV would. The efficiency of this doesn't seem better than any regular hybrid, but maybe the benefit is less complexity so less maintenance costs? That seems like a hard thing to sell to people.
BYD (big chinese car maker) just announced to enter the Japan Market an will sell EVs there. BYD also builds the only EV Toyota and Mitsubishi sells. If the Japan car industry does not rethink their direction, there will be no Japanese car industry in 10 years.
not sure the engine is economical enough with mid 5 L/100lm being a small unit and only generating power to charge batteries. My 3.2L diesel 2021 ranger gets 8.8km/L per 100km. I would expect a generator type engine to do sub 4's to make it attractive enough to consider...
Can anyone trust Nissan this day, here is the LEAF, and this series hybrid has been used previously just like in locomotives, mining loaders, and even the Chevy Bolt? After all, who has the guts to trust Nissan/Renault CVT? Anyway great vid
Most current hybrids, not really. The gas engine still powers the car, often times for acceleration, or higher speeds, switching to electric power at lower speeds. (There are likely variations on this theme) This sounds like an attempt at something I’ve always thought the hybrids should do, which is what you describe: use a smaller gas engine as an electric generator to charge the battery as needed, and rely solely on an electric power train to move the vehicle.
5 litre is around 150 kw - WHAT HAVE THEY DONE HERE? A FAKE EV TO MAKE US SPEND 10 TIMES TO MAKE SAME TRIP ON PURE EV?!?!? WHO IS CRAZY HERE?!?!? This is just amazing. We had Chevrolet Volt first generation and it consumed around 1.5 litre per 100km and it had 1.4GM/Opel engine powering I think 80KW generator
I must disagree with the last part- it's not a hybrid car. I drive a hybrid car and this is not a hybrid car for a few reasons: Most hybrid has a CVT transmission and it's the most annoying part when you accelerate hard(er). While the torque is instant at the first 10 meters, due to some help of the electric motor(s). But that instant torque disappears at higher speed because the electric motors in a hybrid car are a lot smaller. When you pass 100 km/h (62 mph) and you need to go up the hill or pass by other cars, the engine and the CVT make a VERY LOUND noise. I live in a hilly country, and I to Germany sometime too, where people often drive more than 130km/h, this e-power car from Nissan would make a lot of sense in terms of noise (comfort).
It's an EV with a petrol range extender wich is good and bad ...Good if you live in an apartment with no place to charge overnight but bad if you like me don't need the extra complexity that you'll have to maintain at a cost plus the additional weight inefficiency but having options is always a good thing plus it looks just as amazing as your regular qashqai👍
It's still has emissions consuming petrol fuel to the Internal combustion engine charging the battery to power the car...it should have been very economical to make it viable....
What absolute balls. BMW i3 range extender versions have been doing this for decades, but crucially, ONLY WHEN YOU REALLY NEED IT. Not having a socket to plug in is ridiculous. All the electricity in this car has been generated by burning petrol, s saying you can ‘cruise round town in electric mode’ is very misleading. It’s always in petrol mode. And saying that 1000km is much more than any ev on sale is also false. The lightyear will do that no problem. This is just Nissan kicking the can down the road so they can still make use of their engine plants. Disgraceful
No illusion. Power it from solar or wind and you're doing much better. For all the usual (fossil fuel funded) commentators harping about how "dirty" the building of EVs is, build and disposal is only 1/3 of the pollution of ANY car. 2/3 are fuel use. Take that 2/3 to zero and you MUST have a cleaner vehicle. The absolute worst you could then say is that it produces 1/3 of the emissions of a "regular" car. Which is a significant improvement.
So has anyone not noticed yet that all new petrol and diesel cars have a terrible range of mpg compared to 10 years ago? Have a look for yourselves. I was talking with a car salesman about it yesterday while my outlander was getting a service. He agreed and said its a push to get us all electric because 10 years ago, a petrol car could well get over 45mpg and some over 60mpg. The diesel cars from then could get over 60 mpg to mid 70's. If you compared those cars mile for mile cost to the current cost of charging and driving an EV, there would be no comparison. The older cars work out to run much cheaper and that's why the current new cars have a terrible mpg range. Even the car in this video was only averaging 40mpg. That's crap. Especially because it has this new, great electric propulsion system.
You put petrol in, and that's what makes it go. Rather than having a traditional gearbox and clutch, you have a very clever generator, battery and electric motor set-up. But it's still a petrol-powered car. It ought to have brilliant fuel economy with all the electric gubbins, but this appears not to be the case.
Wow! The irony is beautiful. I’m assuming, since no motoring journalist could be this ignorant, that this is an ironic endorsement of this hilarious vehicle. A battery turns the wheels, but, wait for it, a petrol engine charges the battery!!! You are so funny. Love your work! 😂
Honestly, after thinking about it, I'm with most of the commentors. This seems like a fairly pointless vehicle. If it had a way to plug into a socket then it would have been even more useful, but this just seems like an attempt to keep using gas motors. It is entirely gas powered. Sure, it technically has a battery pack that gets charged, and an electric motor to move things. But all of the energy comes from a gas powered generator. Definitely skipping this one.
They dodge the bigger battery so you can't plug it in. Yup they should allow us to plug it in and put a bigger battery and the generator should only kick if you want to. Or at least 30% of remaining battery
I was astonished when Nissan decided to market this version of the Quashqai. They already had 10+ years of electric car experience with the Leaf. It was/is patently obvious where the market is heading, and it's not hybrids. I just cannot understand why they did this. Given the huge sales success of the Quashqai, not having a full electric version *right now* is simply throwing a golden opportunity down the drain.....
Pointless , completely misses the point with those consumption figures. My old diesel does just as well actually a lot better and wont have an expensive battery to replace later on. If this is to be a thing ( and it does have its merits), it should be done with a much smaller engine that is really economical and a reasonably big battery that is capable of decent range without using the engine. In short, just fit an ev with a generator lol.
Lose the piston engine, install a micro turbine with a generator that runs on rapeseed oil, leave the battery that you have the option to use an EV charger, and I would buy one in the morning. So would 10's of thousands of others.
I believe this car will be very smooth to drive since it is basically an EV, but I am concerned about the side-effect of letting the engine only run to generate electricity. For example, will there be any problem with the engine's after-treatment system since the engine's rev would not change very often?
I think hybrid Juke's Renault solution is better than e-power. At least it has some sort of shifting. E power is having an engine reving at speed which is completely irrelevant to actual traveling speed feels odd.
It not better, it worst fuel efficiency, than e-power. I the juke has being tested and it slower and less efficient, which is no surprise given the result of the Clio. Nissan e-power is a much better system, which it faster and more efficient.
Similar. But Honda allows engine to drive the wheels directly in certain highway speed. It can squeeze the last few percent of efficiency when condition allows. Overall a more expensive but better implementation.
So... a Chevy Volt, but years after even GM decided that pure EV's are the future? Let me see... all the complexity of an ICE, all the pollution of an ICE, all the costs of refueling an ICE, but also has the costs of an EV as well. Just to have extra range that you can't possibly need except for once every few years. Sounds perfect! Or maybe just buy a pure EV for about the same price and not deal with all of that garbage.
Omg, talk about fancy marketing. “E-power” is just another hybrid. Sure, the gas engine doesn’t power the wheel, but that’s still a flipping hybrid!! My Honda Insight uses the exact same technology, even the same sort of transmission which they call e-cvt. Notice they are not trying to deceive anyone, still acknowledging it’s a sort of cvt. And they call it a hybrid. And it gets equivalent efficiency at a cheaper cost
Cars having only electric motor to power the wheels is the way to go. Qashqai e-Power only needs a bigger battery and both the ability to plug in and fill with gas which I heard Hyundai has plan of building a while back.
maybe the could even make it more simple, by making the battery bigger and leave the hole gas part. That would be cleaner and would need much less maintenance 🤣.
Not a new technology. Chevy Volt ran on this idea from 2011 to 2019 until the concept was fully replaced with full EV like Chevy Bolt EV/EUV. Nissan started with a full EV in 2010, and now toying with this idea.
pretty much a copy of the Chevy volt or Vauxhall Ampera, which incidentally ceased production in 2014 so nothing new here but except you could also plug in the Ampera or the volt..
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A bit more updated than the old locomotives but you're on right track 😂😂😂, bought Nissan Qastqai epower myself here in Ireland 🇮🇪 and I'm very very keen and happy with it .just wasn't doing the kms we're were doing in the past. Good and solid on roads and very comfortable but I've always found the Qastqai very comfortable and I've enjoyed driving the Qastqa , this is our fourth just cannot leave them😢.
So it basically works like a diesel locomotive, a technology we've been using for a 100 years
< 250 years tech counts as innovative!
You should take into account the emission pollution level.
but it hasn't been as widespread in vehicles. That's the benefit here
Sounds like D-VHS (Digital VHS), the new video recording standard Philips tried to introduce to replace VHS instead of DVD 💿 . Old technology in new clothes...
Yup a generator
my nissan 2016 Qashqai gives 6.2 L/100 km.. happy with it. i love how stable it is on motorway and feels solid. have bought note e-power for city driving though
Is she petrol or diesel? My Nissan Pulsar (petrol) gives 7.1L/100km and she's going strong.. would only be tempted if I could trade in to get the New epower qashqai if it came under 30,000
@@Musicfan9900 petrol
This technology is what they should have promoted instead of full EV cars. It's a genius idea. Engine acts asa generator to charge a battery. Less revs, less strain on the engine and more economical. It's also better for the planet because it uses smaller batteries and you don't have to dig up half the world to install ev chargers.
I feel like this misses the whole point of EVs… not like you get unicorn farts when you burn petrol…
Honestly i find the argument that a cylinder engine isnt better than an electric motor on the drive shaft. Its elegant, responsive and easy to maintain. If we can use petrol / diesel with an ev motor i think its the way.
Very cool concept although the consumption is not as good as I would have expected…
There's nothing cool about it; it's wasteful, it's simplified. It's merchandise.
A great review spoilt by UA-cam’s excessive advertising.
It's an Internal Combustion Electric Vehicle - an EV. EV is just the drivetrain, the electric motors and regen allowing you to drive a car with electricity and recover some of it when braking. Battery EVs (BEVs) carry their energy in a huge heavy battery. Hydrogen EVs carry their energy in tanks and convert it to electricity in a Fuel Cell (FCEVs). This carries its energy in hydrocarbon fuel and converts it to electricity with a generator, in a way *not dissimilar to the mains electricity you charge a BEV with coming from fossil gas power stations*. This is far more sensible than a bet-hedging hybrid. Seems ideal for all those people who'd like an EV but living in a flat or terrace precludes cable charging.
What's the 0-100km time? Were you able to test. How does it compare to RAV4 hybrid?
Is it good for doing long distance driving
Just placed my order today at the dealership, cannot wait :)
I test drove the e power x trail yesterday.... naturally I put it in sport mode, it pulls hard!
Fuel economy of 5.3l/100km is no different from an older 1.5 diesel Qashqai
That's driving a noisy and slow diesel, here you have 190hp with under 8s acceleration and smooth and quiet EV driving feel. Seems like a good progress to me
@@baronxsa some ppl like me actually enjoy the diesel and turbo noise. Not everyone wants a dead silent car. The fuel economy is more important for me especially when I drive 500miles to work every 2 weeks. Also consider that this type of approach is more complex than a simple diesel engine.
Yesterday We were talking about getting EVs but we also looked at prices for Honda generators to put in the trunk. Today I saw this video. I guess We were not so crazy as our purist friends suggested. Now one of the most important question is how the taxes for this car is calculated. Its motor is not part of the drive train so its an EV so it should be taxed as an EV but it has an engine...If its taxed as a normal car then its pointless.
I totally agree with the Hybrid CVT transmissions... After talking to the Nissan dealer and find out the tax I will decided.
Tax wise, I can't see much difference between electric transmission and a mechancical gearbox.
Works just like the Chev/Holden Volt 10 years ago!
Except that you had to plug the Volt in. You don’t have to plug this car in.
@@carsguide which is actually a bad thing because a volt allowed you to drive without using any petrol
@@carsguide No you don't need to plug in a Volt if you don't want to. The petrol engine can be used as generator to charge the battery, but why wouldn't you plug it in, it's cheaper to run that way. I guess a bonus for the Nissan is it will escape the up coming road usage charges the EVs and PHEVs will be subjected to.
@@carsguide Untrue. You never needed to plug the Volt in. You'd have to be an idiot to run that way, tho as it would have been much more expensive.
I liked the review, however this is not new; sort of. The GM-volt did pretty much the same thing, only better. You could go about 70km on a charge, and if you run out of electricity, the generator kicked in for about another 500km of range. This was followed by the BMW i3, which did exactly the same thing, but gave you 120km of range on electricity before the generator kicked in, giving about 160km extra range. The volt came out about 10 years ago, and the BMW i3 a couple of years after. I have owned both these cars, and I got them because of the generator.
As stated, this concept is not new, and relies on petrol. It gets the efficiency, smoothness, and instant power of electricity, but you must recharge with petrol - your outlet to recharge the battery is simply cheaper and cleaner. GM and BMW got it right at the time. Now however, the range in modern batteries is much better, and now days you do not need a generator.
Having spun the sums, I cannot see how anyone could save a $ over the conventional model in the life-time of the vehicle. It is not an EV, it is a petrol-electric vehicle that has a battery about the size of 2 or 3 e-bike batteries. I hope any purchaser is more diligent on their research than relying on a few well-lubed journalists.
It’s a hybrid, not an EV. It’s an amazing setup that was done by the Chevy Volt years ago. Is Carsales on drugs???? An EV is an electric only vehicle, a hybrid has an ICE sitting in it. So by that metric a diesel electric locomotive is an EV so forget the Diesel engine it’s all electric baby.
This car has a lot of other features similar to an EV, eg no gears, better acceleration, more power. Wouldnt just be looking at fuel efficiency as a reason to buy this car..
Not sure if it makes much sense, 44 mpg is really not that great. I would say it needs a bigger battery and plug
I don't know how you got 44 mpg. The range is 5.3 equal to 53 mpg, and of you referring to 5.8 in the video, it still is 48mpg.
I have been driving a BMW i3 REx for the last 8 years. It has the same kind of series hybrid arrangement as in the Nissan. However, it has a charging socket, with CCS rapid option and can be run entirely as an EV for shorter journeys and longer trips, if you have the time to stop for charging. This car is nothing new and continues to tie the driver to ever more expensive fossil fuel.
Like the now discontinued Chevy Volts
do you like the i3 REx ? what mileage does it offer ?
@@cpeden71. The i3 REx 94 Ah (UK/EU spec) offers ~120 miles (~190 km) electric range with a further ~80 miles (~130 km) petrol range. The later spec 120 Ah US models offer ~160 miles (~260 km) of electric range.
Quite a different car. The Nissan is driven primarily by the engine, with the tiny battery (more a capacitor really) providing extra power when needed for overtakes etc. The BMW is a true EV which has a full sized battery with associated range. The Nissan's "battery" is computer charged, meaning it can probably maintain greater longevity, while the BMW will be charged and discharged depending on the user. Replacing the Nissan's "battery" would like be much cheaper given the smaller size.
Can someone tell me if performance is constant, can gasoline engine generate enough electricity and keep up when battery is empty, for full power? Is there lag? what happens if you drive fast for longer, uphill, high speeds, etc..? I am curios what are downsides of this design...
So its a newer version of the GM volt, that was dropped by GM (and existed for a time as the Opel Ampera). Whats not mentioned, is that most of these cars were bought as diesel, as petrol was less fuel efficient, gov taxes were more expensive as it emitted more C02. So now we have a petrol powered Nissan SUV with epower covering the fuel efficiency. If you want a half-way house- would a PHEV not be the answer - offering EV power around slow town trips and a gas engine for longer trips or above a certain speed. PHEVs also switch from EV to gas engine use automatically (unless you force one mode for a reason). What PHEV is currently missing is decent EV range. What Nissan is offering is their version of a Prius without the; diesel issues over exhaust cleaning and low speed dirt (plus all the adblue messing). While Diesel is currently more expensive than gas, that will change (hopefully). I can see this working in Transit type vans where business want to clean up their transport, dump diesel (if they could) and get similar to diesel fuel economy (and all the low speed diesel engine problems and expensive exhaust maintenance) while pretending to be EV quiet (and therefore it must be a "zero" emissions EV). I guess Nissan is hedging its bets vs the similar Pure EV - Araya. From the car maker that launched the seminal EV Leaf, this seems a backward step - unless this is the answer to their US fuel efficiency issues for larger vehicles where only a bigger/more expensive battery would work in a PHEV and where incentives are missing for these hybrids and PHEVs.
The fuel economy is very disappointing. It also needs a bigger battery that you can charge. It would make a good EV commuter with the ability go on a road trip. Alas, Nissan have managed to build a less efficient hybrid.
Technically speaking, it's not a hybrid. Hybrids can use electric motors and combustion engine to power the wheels.
@@kapquidlat1122 Depends how narrowly you define Hybrid
@@GlowingTubecan you please explain how is this inefficient? Do you know any suv with better mpg?
@@ctgaming168 Yes, a Toyota Hybrid
@@GlowingTube name one car with more mpg, what is the mpg?
How can it use 5-10l/100km of the engine is only charging the battery? And why is it a turbo engine?
This feels like saying you can avoid gravity if you can pick up your feet with your hands, if it has a petrol engine then it has emissions regardless of what is powering the wheels.
BMW i3 has a ‘range extender’ under the boot which is a generator battery charger and only the battery powers the wheels.
I have been driving BEVs for 14 years & have never suffered from range anxiety or had a battery run flat. I'm on my 5th BEV & most of my journeys are long ones.
Exactly, well said. This Nissan is just a technological cue-de-sac.
Well said!! I’m on my 3rd BEV over 6 years. 118K later, only one balls up (my fault) where I ran out of charge. If you plan ahead you don’t have range anxiety.
Wow 5th.BEV in 14 years Wilkin One and Kia E- Niro 3 cars in 6 years have you guys got money to burn 🔥 buying all these new cars is good for the environment , but it is even better for the car manufacturers
@@MrTpain1945 2 were used cars & the 5th has been held up by the war in Ukraine it's a Skoda. If some don't buy new cars, where will the used cars come from?
@@MrTpain1945 company car. Nothing to do with me. Our 2nd car is a 12 year old petrol.
Note Epower nismoS owner here!
I have an epower note also. I think we are probably the only ones here who get it.
@@glenconboy hey bro，im here from ACT, where about you?
@@joeyzhang876 in Adelaide
@@glenconboy lol, so far away. Do you like the car? I’m planning to trade in my wife’s civic RS to this epower qashqai. Love it so much.
The Note has been great. I have the Nismo. It's a great daily drive.
We haven’t gotten ePower vehicles from Nissan here in Canada yet….not sure why.
I’m interested to see what the costs of servicing the e-power vs petrol model is. My interest in the e-power is to see if the day to day costs are less with the e-power & if it’s a nicer drive. I love my current 2017 qashqai but it’s outdated, out of warranty & even if I have to buy the petrol model first just to upgrade now I will then trade in for the e power when it’s released.
im sure its about the same as any other hybrid vehicle
@@ciello___8307 I don’t know what that is and how it would compare to the petrol version
@@twotwinningcavs it really depends on how long you keep the car. Ive seen prius’ come in that are 15+ years old with 200k+ miles on them for battery replacement, which is a couple thousand usd. But most owners wont even keep their car for that long, plus with hybrid brakes, you will have much less brake wear. Generally, for most of its life, a hybrid vehicle will have about the same or even less servicing costs
@@ciello___8307 Within the warranty period of the car
@@twotwinningcavs oh, for the warranty period? it should be very reasonable.
How would it costs if the battery needs to be replaced and how long will it last?
Both are unknowns, and we don't even know the battery warranty yet!
You wouldn't necessarily get the battery replaced. You could have it refurbished at the fraction of the cost of replacing it. You don't replace your engine if it develops a fault. You have it repaired. It's exactly the same with EV battery packs.....
Yeah, you can't charge it at home, you get to go to the expensive gas station all the time! Chevy Volt did this a long time ago and is now discontinued.
Nissan ,lotus, and others start this project long time also, but lack of research on your part, never realize e-power is derive from the project, but look up evora 414, by the way,the note came out 2016.
Near enough the same fuel consumption as a standard petrol engined car (which costs much less). What's the point?
This would have been fantastic, 5 years ago. For the US watcher, it is 40mpg, which is not bad. 2.1KWh battery back is pretty tiny. At 40 plus thousand US dollars why not get a less complex EV.
Because not everyone has access to a charging spot
@@Alex-fu1jj That's not an excuse anymore, for instance I'm in Connemara in the West of Ireland in our Renault Zoe, not many chargers around. I have just met a friend who has just driven from England in his Model 3 Tesla & he only has a granny cable with him. Where there's a will there's a way!!
@@wilkoone9155 of course that's the case, where there's a will, there's a way. But is it really how it should be? Cars are meant to be convenient, not requiring weird charging gymnastics when planning a journey.
@@wilkoone9155 That's really stupid. Gasoline makes more sense so long as there's no chargers everywhere.
A question...when released, will this model be subject to the EV/hybrid kilometres travelled tax that some states have already introduced in Australia ? (24 hrs later)..after research I understand that this specific vehicle is not subject to this tax👍
Yes its a hybrid.. hybrid tax is 2.1 cents a kilometre in Victoria from july 1
As bush boy said yes as it’s a plug in.
Hopefully the law get rebuffed shortly as it’s stupid at this stage of take up
@@TheMelbournelad It isn't a plug-in, though, so shouldn't be subject to EV tax.
@@carsguide oh my bad. Must of missed that but. I assumed it was like the up coming Outlander PHEV as they are sharing this whole e power thing.
Thanks for the info, be great to give it to VicGov on this count 🤣
@@carsguide so perhaps please stop calling it an EV, it is not an EV, it is an alternative type of hybrid. You put fuel in it, without fuel it would last no more than a couple of kilometres. Remember, as journalists you have a responsibility to educate the public property on new technology, people who don't bother to actually research might buy this thinking they have an EV, which is completely false.
Sounds nice. It is practically a petrol engine with an electrical transmission and a very small non-chargeable battery.
So the most important feature of an EV which is not having to go to fill up with petrol is not available and you still have the noise from the petrol engine. What is the point?
it much quiet and more pleasure to drive than the corolla cross which it it main competitor.
Good review, I've ordered mine😉
What would be the benefit of changing my Lexus NX 300h for this?
You CAN NOT call this an electric vehicle. It is a Petrol vehicle witth an electric transmission instead of a mechanical transmission. It sources ALL of its energy from petrol.
Electricity has to come from somewhere anyway.
@@Xunxunism So can I call my Nissan Leaf a petrol car? As for the source of the energy, my Leaf gets 99% from home solar for the last 2years
Chevy Volt had a similar arrangement, and was launched in 2010.
BUT it consumed around 1.5 litre of gasoline to drive 100km, this is 400% higher consumption :O
This did sound very impressive to me initially. However, 5.3l/100km is not mind-blowing in this day and age and is a lousy mpg figure. It's the same 44 mpg as both the 1.5 Qashqai DCI and the 1.5 Dacia Duster DCI. It's pants mpg nowadays, and for me, not what I'm talking about. I'm sure I did see another review here on youtube that said this car gets a very impressive 64 to 69 mpg? A bit of a scam surely. 44mpg, wasn't even that impressive ten years ago. 20 years ago I suppose it was considered pretty good. Toyota and Honda have been doing Hybrids for a lot longer, and better, and they use a lot less fuel. My own 2013 Toyota Auris Hybrid gets at least 68 to 80 mpg UK, going along at a speed of 55 to 60 mph.
Yes but it’s still a bloody Auris. Sorry.
Kindly be nice and use Kilometres
Seems to me that a PHEV would be better. Not sure why they didn't make it a PHEV in the first place.
Most probably the cost of a plug and the systems to support the plug meant Nissan did not include it.
It would need a much larger battery ( 10 to 12 times more capacity) to make it a practical and viable PHEV..... This Nissan could not complete a 20 to 30 mile trip on battery alone, even at motorway speeds, whereas most PHEV's can.....
This reviewer did a superb job explaining how this powertrain works in a clear, concise way. I wish this vehicle was available in Canada.
WHY? I could understand if you plug it in and just use the engine for long trips. But if the engine is running anyway it might as well be driving the wheels without power train losses.
Agree, daft concept
Tell us which powertrain doesn't have loss, and if you are speaking about loss be greater, then time you research why locomotive use motor, and efficiency in modern motor drives.
Interesting to find out about this car. I was hoping to learn more from the viewer comments but was disappointed at having to wade through a number of abusive comments.
When Nissan makes a better car they'll get better comments.
I think Nissan has totally missed the point of what electric cars are suppose to achieve…
It’s not so different to the system used in Honda hybrids like the Jazz and Civic. They almost always power the wheels via a generator, inverter and electric motor with no gearbox, with the addition of a direct drive mode for high-speed cruising above 60 mph. Although Honda calls their system e-cvt, and like the Nissan it tries to simulate a regular gearbox for a more natural experience, it does not have a CVT gearbox. This wasn’t really a review was it?
You know that Toyota have had hybrids for over 10 years right?
This is series hybrid not parallel
The difference he says is that this is a series Hybrid (electric motor drives the wheels, petrol motor only charges the battery), while the Toyota is parallel hybrid (both petrol and electric motor drives the wheels and normally has a CVT gearbox)
same Honda, Nissan, Hyundai and who I may have left out. You may not know, but Nissan first hybrid was parallel hybrid sold only in japan in 2000 call tino hybrid, And it was no mild system it was real fully hybrid. use the same setup as the renault e-tech. Only difference is instead of the DHT it was CVT.
When is this due to be launched?
I really want an EV but I can't bare the thought of never buying petrol again. OH! Thanks Nissan! You solved my dilema.
Seems a PHEV traditional would have been a much better choice. That, or a bigger chargeable battery so that daily driving could actually be in all EV mode and then use the generator for longer trips just like a true PHEV would.
The efficiency of this doesn't seem better than any regular hybrid, but maybe the benefit is less complexity so less maintenance costs? That seems like a hard thing to sell to people.
It's not a choice? You could make this thing a PHEV too.
BYD (big chinese car maker) just announced to enter the Japan Market an will sell EVs there. BYD also builds the only EV Toyota and Mitsubishi sells. If the Japan car industry does not rethink their direction, there will be no Japanese car industry in 10 years.
not sure the engine is economical enough with mid 5 L/100lm being a small unit and only generating power to charge batteries. My 3.2L diesel 2021 ranger gets 8.8km/L per 100km. I would expect a generator type engine to do sub 4's to make it attractive enough to consider...
You will need two mechanics to work on this!
Purely going by fuel efficiency, the RAV4 still does better
Can anyone trust Nissan this day, here is the LEAF, and this series hybrid has been used previously just like in locomotives, mining loaders, and even the Chevy Bolt? After all, who has the guts to trust Nissan/Renault CVT? Anyway great vid
amazing like OPEL Ampera ! Opel didnt do any ad about the ampera shameless !
That's what I thought hybrids were! I thought the petrol was getting converted to electricity to charge the battery
Most current hybrids, not really. The gas engine still powers the car, often times for acceleration, or higher speeds, switching to electric power at lower speeds. (There are likely variations on this theme)
This sounds like an attempt at something I’ve always thought the hybrids should do, which is what you describe: use a smaller gas engine as an electric generator to charge the battery as needed, and rely solely on an electric power train to move the vehicle.
Is this new or just a copy of the Holden Volt that didn’t sell at all well.
this was a great idea 10 years ago, but in 2022 pure EV is the way to go.
With the current tech on the battery, this or petrol cars still more efficient.
@@kingina9489 naaaaaa
Recent ancap gave it the highest safety rating for any small SUV, fantastic results! Second to Tesla overall
SO ...I'm guessing this version doesn't have a CVT?
No gearbox
@@yellowrattle2428 Yep ..well that's worth
another point out of ten right there.
That's what he said in the review...not sure why you're guessing?
The best opening dialogue to any video I have seen on the web. Brilliant! 👍
5 litre is around 150 kw - WHAT HAVE THEY DONE HERE? A FAKE EV TO MAKE US SPEND 10 TIMES TO MAKE SAME TRIP ON PURE EV?!?!? WHO IS CRAZY HERE?!?!? This is just amazing. We had Chevrolet Volt first generation and it consumed around 1.5 litre per 100km and it had 1.4GM/Opel engine powering I think 80KW generator
I must disagree with the last part- it's not a hybrid car.
I drive a hybrid car and this is not a hybrid car for a few reasons: Most hybrid has a CVT transmission and it's the most annoying part when you accelerate hard(er). While the torque is instant at the first 10 meters, due to some help of the electric motor(s). But that instant torque disappears at higher speed because the electric motors in a hybrid car are a lot smaller. When you pass 100 km/h (62 mph) and you need to go up the hill or pass by other cars, the engine and the CVT make a VERY LOUND noise.
I live in a hilly country, and I to Germany sometime too, where people often drive more than 130km/h, this e-power car from Nissan would make a lot of sense in terms of noise (comfort).
It's an EV with a petrol range extender wich is good and bad ...Good if you live in an apartment with no place to charge overnight but bad if you like me don't need the extra complexity that you'll have to maintain at a cost plus the additional weight inefficiency but having options is always a good thing plus it looks just as amazing as your regular qashqai👍
It's still has emissions consuming petrol fuel to the Internal combustion engine charging the battery to power the car...it should have been very economical to make it viable....
40mpg? What's the point? No, seriously: what IS the point?
What is real petrol consumption??
What absolute balls. BMW i3 range extender versions have been doing this for decades, but crucially, ONLY WHEN YOU REALLY NEED IT. Not having a socket to plug in is ridiculous. All the electricity in this car has been generated by burning petrol, s saying you can ‘cruise round town in electric mode’ is very misleading. It’s always in petrol mode. And saying that 1000km is much more than any ev on sale is also false. The lightyear will do that no problem. This is just Nissan kicking the can down the road so they can still make use of their engine plants. Disgraceful
Pure EV has an illusion of being 'green'.
No illusion. Power it from solar or wind and you're doing much better. For all the usual (fossil fuel funded) commentators harping about how "dirty" the building of EVs is, build and disposal is only 1/3 of the pollution of ANY car. 2/3 are fuel use. Take that 2/3 to zero and you MUST have a cleaner vehicle. The absolute worst you could then say is that it produces 1/3 of the emissions of a "regular" car. Which is a significant improvement.
So has anyone not noticed yet that all new petrol and diesel cars have a terrible range of mpg compared to 10 years ago?
Have a look for yourselves.
I was talking with a car salesman about it yesterday while my outlander was getting a service. He agreed and said its a push to get us all electric because 10 years ago, a petrol car could well get over 45mpg and some over 60mpg.
The diesel cars from then could get over 60 mpg to mid 70's. If you compared those cars mile for mile cost to the current cost of charging and driving an EV, there would be no comparison. The older cars work out to run much cheaper and that's why the current new cars have a terrible mpg range.
Even the car in this video was only averaging 40mpg. That's crap. Especially because it has this new, great electric propulsion system.
They call that a Clayton’s . Petrol is petrol not Electric.
You put petrol in, and that's what makes it go. Rather than having a traditional gearbox and clutch, you have a very clever generator, battery and electric motor set-up. But it's still a petrol-powered car. It ought to have brilliant fuel economy with all the electric gubbins, but this appears not to be the case.
Wow! The irony is beautiful. I’m assuming, since no motoring journalist could be this ignorant, that this is an ironic endorsement of this hilarious vehicle. A battery turns the wheels, but, wait for it, a petrol engine charges the battery!!! You are so funny. Love your work! 😂
Honestly, after thinking about it, I'm with most of the commentors. This seems like a fairly pointless vehicle. If it had a way to plug into a socket then it would have been even more useful, but this just seems like an attempt to keep using gas motors. It is entirely gas powered. Sure, it technically has a battery pack that gets charged, and an electric motor to move things. But all of the energy comes from a gas powered generator. Definitely skipping this one.
I agree, pointless vehicle.
They dodge the bigger battery so you can't plug it in. Yup they should allow us to plug it in and put a bigger battery and the generator should only kick if you want to. Or at least 30% of remaining battery
Makes about as much sense as Toyota's "self-charging hybrid".
I was astonished when Nissan decided to market this version of the Quashqai. They already had 10+ years of electric car experience with the Leaf. It was/is patently obvious where the market is heading, and it's not hybrids. I just cannot understand why they did this. Given the huge sales success of the Quashqai, not having a full electric version *right now* is simply throwing a golden opportunity down the drain.....
Good that you acknowledge the reality, because so far not even diesel cars get there numbers of Toyota's hybrid.
Troll 😅
Nothing like consecutive power losses
This😂
not a new idea the Owen magnetic car made in 1916 had the same gear have a look
It’s a fantastic idea in theory, but sorry the fuel consumption is not good enough, and hardly makes it worth it.
Pointless , completely misses the point with those consumption figures.
My old diesel does just as well actually a lot better and wont have an expensive battery to replace later on.
If this is to be a thing ( and it does have its merits), it should be done with a much smaller engine that is really economical and a reasonably big battery that is capable of decent range without using the engine.
In short, just fit an ev with a generator lol.
Lose the piston engine, install a micro turbine with a generator that runs on rapeseed oil, leave the battery that you have the option to use an EV charger, and I would buy one in the morning. So would 10's of thousands of others.
I believe this car will be very smooth to drive since it is basically an EV, but I am concerned about the side-effect of letting the engine only run to generate electricity. For example, will there be any problem with the engine's after-treatment system since the engine's rev would not change very often?
Watch John Cadogen video re this car 🚘 on u tube
I think hybrid Juke's Renault solution is better than e-power. At least it has some sort of shifting. E power is having an engine reving at speed which is completely irrelevant to actual traveling speed feels odd.
It not better, it worst fuel efficiency, than e-power. I the juke has being tested and it slower and less efficient, which is no surprise given the result of the Clio. Nissan e-power is a much better system, which it faster and more efficient.
Isn’t that the same way the Honda E-HEV works?
Similar. But Honda allows engine to drive the wheels directly in certain highway speed. It can squeeze the last few percent of efficiency when condition allows. Overall a more expensive but better implementation.
The electric generator should be very durable.
I guess a petrol power generator is different from a petrol engine.
it looks stunning
So... a Chevy Volt, but years after even GM decided that pure EV's are the future?
Let me see... all the complexity of an ICE, all the pollution of an ICE, all the costs of refueling an ICE, but also has the costs of an EV as well. Just to have extra range that you can't possibly need except for once every few years. Sounds perfect!
Or maybe just buy a pure EV for about the same price and not deal with all of that garbage.
Omg, talk about fancy marketing. “E-power” is just another hybrid. Sure, the gas engine doesn’t power the wheel, but that’s still a flipping hybrid!!
My Honda Insight uses the exact same technology, even the same sort of transmission which they call e-cvt. Notice they are not trying to deceive anyone, still acknowledging it’s a sort of cvt. And they call it a hybrid. And it gets equivalent efficiency at a cheaper cost
Cars having only electric motor to power the wheels is the way to go. Qashqai e-Power only needs a bigger battery and both the ability to plug in and fill with gas which I heard Hyundai has plan of building a while back.
maybe the could even make it more simple, by making the battery bigger and leave the hole gas part. That would be cleaner and would need much less maintenance 🤣.
@@michaeloffner3224 They did, it's called the Ariya.
Not a Nissan fan but this one is good looking
Not a new technology. Chevy Volt ran on this idea from 2011 to 2019 until the concept was fully replaced with full EV like Chevy Bolt EV/EUV. Nissan started with a full EV in 2010, and now toying with this idea.
3 cylinder….mm…thanks for your time
pretty much a copy of the Chevy volt or Vauxhall Ampera, which incidentally ceased production in 2014 so nothing new here but except you could also plug in the Ampera or the volt..
Toyota has had that for a few years now, it is called a plus
Not as good as a Toyota RAV4 plug-in hybrid,
The fuel consumption is a joke. Buy a vw polo and save tens of thousands
Even a Polo will still cost 4 or 5 times what it would cost to run an EV....
@@Brian-om2hh but is $20k cheaper to buy and doesn’t run on coal fired power
Hybrid car done backwards. Or like driving a hybrid car in charge mode. 🤣
Stop calling this an EV. It's misleading to those unfamiliar with electric vehicles and who might be considering switching to a zero emissions car.