DJI Mini 2 / SE | Master Airscrew Stealth Propeller Upgrade REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 27 лют 2022
- I spent a couple of months flying my Mini 2 with the Master Airscrew Stealth propellers and this is my review.
NOTE: One item I didn't touch on specifically but should have, is propeller guards. Because the MAS propellers are a touch longer, it's quite likely that they will make contact with your Mini 2/SE prop guards and should probably not be used if you plan on using the guards.
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Finally found a video with a side by side comparison! so much easier to hear the difference when there isnt 5 minutes between the tests.
Nice! It's really the only way to tell, I think. Cheers!
Thank you for putting the weight difference in! I couldn't find this information anywhere besides your video!
You bet and thanks for watching! Cheers!
As always an excellent review!!! Covered all of my questions perfectly!!! Thank you!! I will definitely be ordering some of the orange ones!!
Thank you! I need to order some more orange ones myself. I trashed 3 pairs shooting b-roll for my videos. The yellow and red ones are ok but I really love the orange. Cheers!
This was a very well made and high quality review, I was not expecting this when I tried looking up if there were ways to make my drone a little quieter so I don't bring too much attention to it. Excellent! If you had an affiliate link I'd use it.
Thanks so much for the kind words. It made my day. Cheers!
SO glad to see this review randomly appear in my feed. I just ordered two packs of MAS red blades for my new old stock mini 2 that I just got here in Japan. Speaking of Japan, MAN is it a pain to fly a drone here as I am finding out... so much red tape and hoops to jump through it isn't even funny. I'm secretly flying it around the campus where I work, as it is large enough & there's enough space that I can do so without getting within 100ft of any neighboring buildings/houses in the right areas. Thanks for a great, useful review.
Thanks for the comment! I live and fly in Canada and sub-250g is as frictionless as it gets. Nearly restriction free. I'm enjoying it while it lasts. Happy, safe flying!
Not a lot of people know this but when you get a pack of these Master Air Screws they do have some high spots on them , like where they molded them & if you know what your doing you can significantly reduce the noise even more if you carefully cut the molded high spots off of the propellers & use a watch makers plastic crystal buffing wheel with the right compound to smooth all of the ruff spots down being really careful not to thin out the propeller , I did this very thing & got a fantastic result from doing so & had a reduction of noise by 7 decibels & a even lower pitch . I took these propellers even further quieting them better than Master Air Screw them selfs . You want a smooth propeller with no high spots on them because any high spot on the propeller will indeed make the propeller itself noisier & have a higher pitch . Now they work very well & I,m satisfied with the results .
Very cool!! Thanks for the info! 😀
I have the black and red color. The props were awesome and I don't have any issue with it so far. Very well made and excellent performance. Thanks for sharing and cheers from Malaysia. 🙂🙏
Hey Nazz, thanks for the comment. I love hearing from directly from people using the same products. Happy, safe flying and cheers from Canada!
Great review and thanks for all of the detailed information. I ordered a couple sets. Blue and Orange.
Thanks and thanks for watching! Love the colour choice. Cheers Louis!
Greetings. 🙂👍👋😁. I also use the master Air screw propellers. They work great and I really like them.
It made it abit faster on the turns. Much quieter and I like the red color.
Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful video and God bless you always.
Thank you Shane. I am loving my MAS props as well! Orange is my fav but sadly I took a chunk out of one orange prop shooting b-roll for another video. Need to order a new set and might add blue in to the mix as well. Cheers!
Excellent Review Video Steve. Thank You.
Thanks for watching Doug! Cheers!
I've been using their props for a while. Nice review.
Thanks Don! Yeah, I love them!
Steve great review thanks my friend cheers!!!
Thanks Reggio, cheers! Happy, safe flying!
Hi Steve. I have the first mini and the air 2s. Will try the props for both drones. BTW production value is looking good! Stay safe and be well.
Thanks John! If you pick some up, let me know what you think. I have been making small tweaks to my studio space, thanks for noticing - haha! Cheers!
Great review I will be getting a set of these for sure
Thanks! I really like mine and they are still my go-to props on the Mini 2. Cheers!
An honest and great review I'm gonna order them now thank you
Thanks and thanks for watching. I am going to order a couple more sets myself, I broke one orange prop shooting b-roll for another video and orange was my favourite. Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts I'm going for red but orange would be ideal in case I lose it which I shouldn't 🤞
@@gratchgratch7919 Haha! I got my Mini 2 stuck way up in a tree once and orange props (or perhaps any colour for that matter) would have saved me a ton of time trying to find it.
Thank you Sir :-) always a joy to see Molly :-)
Thanks Fred! Molly is usually part of the crew, weather and hiking distance permitting. She had one other scene, a better one perhaps but it got swapped out with a different clip in the final cut. Cheers!
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Nice video 😎, liked & subscribed, thanks for sharing ‼️
Thanks! Happy, safe flying!
Thanks for the video! These are cheap enough that I'm going to give them a shot. I noticed in your side-by-side comparison that the battery was 2 degrees C cooler with the improved blades.
Thanks for watching! That's a great catch on the battery temperature, I didn't even notice that. I still use them on my Mini 2 (and Mini 3 Pro) and I have had no issues. Let me know how they work out for you. Cheers!
I have been using the master air screw props for my air 2s and mini 2 for months and never have any issue with it. Love the different colors that they provide.
Oh yeah, the colours right?! Love 'em! Never understood why DJI didn't add some colourful options, especially for the Mini line. Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts Agree about DJI not providing that option. They could be making a lot of more money if they provide that option as alternative color variant for the propellers.
Totally! I've been begging for that since the Spark day - haha! Cheers!
Yep, use these on all my drones including mini2 and as you say they are very good.
Nice! Nice to have quality third-party options.
Hey Steve, very thorough review of the Master Air Screw props. I performed a similar test of the Master Air Screw props on my Air 2S but unfortunately they did not perform as well. Thanks again for the review...: )
Thanks and thanks for watching! Interesting about your experience with your Air 2S. What was the problem? Did you reach out to MAS?
@@SteveCoutts I was getting prop motor warnings and they didn’t fair as well as the OEM props after a collision. I did not reach out to MAS. I posted a video showing the testing and damage
@@ghost1917 That is really interesting. I didn't have any issues. Log files were clean and my Mini 2 and MAS props even survived a minor crash. I did a bit of Googling to see other folks experience while I was testing and generally the feedback was good. Only the odd issue here and there. I wonder if you just had a bad set of props. I guess there is always risk with third-party accessories though. It is why I mentioned the bit about warranty and DJI Care Refresh. Happy, safe flying. Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts I ran two separate sets of props and received the same error message, perhaps I have a hypersensitive Air 2S...lol
And I yes I totally about the possible care refresh issue regarding third party accessories. I carry the Care Refresh on my Air 2S...thanks again for the feedback and detailed review....: )
Alway enjoy the content bro
Thanks and thanks for watching! Cheers!
That Color is so cool
I LOVE the orange colour! Cheers!
Hey Steve, it's been a while since you posted a new video. Glad to see you!
Hope you and your family are in good health.
Thank you for this testing video.
Now you given a green light on the MAS props, I thing I'll have to buy one for myself 🙂.
One question, will they fit folded in the original blade storage guard?Happy flying
Hey Danny, thanks for watching! Yes, everybody is good here. I went about 5 months without posting a video. Just really burnt out and too much other stuff getting in the way. Working hard to get back to my regular posting. I hope everything is good with you and your family. To answer your question, yes, they fit just fine with the propeller holder. They do NOT work with the prop guards though, they are a bit too long for that. Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts 🔥 out? I know the feeling. Took me a good year. Take care and listen to your body. Life is stressful enough.
@@dbua1979 Yup. Wow, one year. Thanks Danny, you take care as well.
G’day Steve.
I’m a later starter, picked up a Mini 2 a couple of weeks ago and had only 2 flight outings due to weather. When it hasn’t been raining, the wind has been up.
Anyway, I’m guessing that the new blades have slightly more pitch giving extra lift at lower rpm. This can cause the lower pitch when hovering and the movement on ground at minimum motor rpm. Years ago when I was flying light aircraft we coarsened the pitch on our 😮plane’s prop and previously the plane would remain motionless at idle, but after the pitch change, well, we could almost get it to take off with a long enough runway, 😂😂, and it lowered our rpm at cruise (100kts) by quite a bit, but decreased our max climb rate by 200fpm which is substantial. When all said and done economy really wasn’t a winner, but I was happy with the reduction in cruise rpm, funnily enough fuel flow and airflow didn’t show a great deal of improvement.
Enjoyed your vid, thanks for posting.
Cheers from downunder.
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Thanks for watching and thank you for the comment. Really interesting stuff actually. I'm sure most drone fliers spend zero time thinking about their propellers. When the Mini 1 was first released it was a little underpowered and if your props were even slightly damaged or warped, the thing would literally drop out of the sky. Replacing the props typically fixed the issue. That's the closest I've come to actually considering how pitch and propeller integrity impacts flight characteristics. Pretty cool stuff.
Cheers from British Columbia, Canada!
Can't stand DJI, but Master Airscrew are great. Nice review
LOL! Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment. Cheers!
Used these Stealth props on my mini 2 for about 3 months and it was basically install and forget. They worked fine and seemed slightly quieter. My only concern was when I got a warning about a damaged prop. It appears the DJI blade guard may have damaged one of the blades, though I can't see any actual problems. Got constant warnings until I replaced the prop. And this led to a frustrating realisation: I got Stealth blades in yellow, orange and red. So when one of my orange blade had the issue, I had to swap in a yellow set on that motor. So now the colors don't match. I wish I had just gotten all one color. And I also wish they had GREEN blades so I could easily setup red and green port and starboard colors. That would be really useful. But otherwise I have been pleased with the product. The orange blades were nice for safety purposes.
Thanks for the comment. It's always good to hear first hand feedback. Yeah, the MAS props are a bit too long for the propeller guards, so you can't use them for that. I probably should have included that bit in my review. Your idea for port and starboard colours is great! Happy, safe flying!
Red and green for port and starboard. What a cool idea.
Great review, Steve! Good to know the weight keeps the drone under the 250g mark. The vibration is a bit worrisome...
Thank Don! Like I said in the video, I am not stressed about the vibration. Flights were smooth and trouble free and that was my biggest concern. Where you see the drone moving it's sitting on a tabletop covered in white, smooth paper. Not a lot of friction. True, the DJI props do NOT create the same movement but I have to wonder if it's just due to longer, wider props pushing more air. If I put the drone on a rougher surface with the MAS blades it wouldn't move. The video was already getting too long to go down that rabbit hole so I just made folks aware and moved on. It may just be the price you pay for a bit more power and longer flight times. MAS could have just cloned DJI props and added colour but I suppose they wanted give folks a reason to buy them. Cheers!
Interesting review thanks. The point that you made about the vibration with the new blades I found to be an important one - it obviously is as a result of the blades being out of balance, which will cause additional stresses on the motor(s) and airframe. This is potentially going to cause early failure and possibly loss of control/crashing/maybe loss of the drone. Not something I'd want to risk...
Before posting my review, I checked around to see what others were saying about the propellers. I found a few complaining about vibration but it seemed worse than what I was experiencing. I believe in one instance Master Airscrew replaced the props.
Finding the other reviews mentioning vibration was the only reason I specifically tested for it, otherwise I likely would not have even noticed it. I feel the vibration was observable only because my tabletop is covered in photo background paper, which is surprisingly slippery.
When the drone was on a more typical surface, it did not wander. There were no other signs of imbalance.
I didn't think the vibration was serious enough to warrant dismissing the props but I included the information in the video so folks could make their own judgements like you have done.
I still use them on my Mini 2 and have had no issues. Whether or not they create a long term issue only time will tell. Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts Thanks v much for the further detail in your reply - it's obviously not affecting the camera to an extent that is noticeable either, I'll have a look for other reviews. Cheers, Will.
@@will_doherty No worries. They have pretty much been on my Mini 2 since the review. I only removed them a couple of times for photos or other testing. They are my day-to-day props, I do fly a lot and I haven't noticed any issues. I broke a couple of sets shooting b-roll for other videos but other than that, no complaints. Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts to fix vibration get some type of heat resistant grease and apply it to the side of bearing caps in the motors, you don't have to remove anything just use a toothpick or something and rotate a couple times after you apply some grease. It will work it's way into the bearing overtime and make the drone quieter.
Thank you ✌🏼️
Thank YOU for watching! Cheers!
Hi Steve finally installed a set of MAS props I also got a vibration when sat on a flat surface,,, This said after investigation and looking closer at them whist idling I noticed that the rear right blades (on my install) were running at different heights when looking at them edge on. I found that one of the screws was actually slightly bent at the thread end. I replaced this with an original DJI supplied screw and this brought the props back into line and the vibration stopped.
Just something I thought people may wish to visually check after install.
Thanks for great the content. :-)
Hi David, thanks for taking the time to investigate that further. I will give that a try and see if fixes the issue for me as well. Thanks for watching and happy, safe flying. Cheers!
I ordered the green and red :)
Awesome! I'm partial to orange but I have the yellow and red ones too. Cheers!
How ud oing?, Steve~ Bravo-very breathtaking , see ya!~
I'm doing good, thanks! Trying to get back in to the swing of things. Thanks for stopping by, cheers!
Great review bud! I got these and they are quieter. I nicked a couple of blades though. Was wondering if I could replace those with my originals while I wait for my new set? I.E using an A/B set of Master & an A/B set of my originals? Thanks.
Awesome! I really love mine and have been using them exclusively since the review. Hmmm... good question. My gut tells that you probably shouldn't. I feel like it would work but the MAS props are a touch longer and have different characteristics, which may cause unexpected results or at the very least, cause an unbalance putting unnecessary stress on the motors and/or aircraft. If you want to try it regardless, I would put them on in diagonal pairs. So one pair on the front left, one pair on the rear right or vice versa. I feel like that would be the best way to balance them out. Of course though, I'm just guessing here, I have never actually tried it.
Thanks for the vedio
Thanks for watching! Cheers!
Thanks Steve. This is something I hadn't really been aware of and had been thinking about adding my own colour to the standard blades to aid with visual awareness. I purchased a set (red) for my Mini 2 and tested for noise levels: in a stationary hover - indoors and therefore zero wind - the Master Airscrew blades were 6.2 dBa quieter than the standard DJI blades (81.1 compared to 87.3); which is a reasonably significant delta. I was not able to measure for pitch/tone, but as your review ckearky demonstrated, the MS blades definitely have a lower, and I'd say less annoying pitch. I only wish they also came in green, as I'd to fit red and green to the aircraft, for port and starboard identification..!
Thanks for the comment Robert. I didn't have a decibel meter at the time I reviewed these props - I do now. I didn't go back and measure the noise level so thanks for that! That is significant but I think the pitch makes a big difference. Just like the Mini 3 Pro vs the Mini 2, not a big decibel difference but more pleasant pitch on the M3Pro.
Good idea with the red/green props. I do wish they had more colours but as long as they have orange, which they do, I'm happy. I have said it for a long time now, I really don't understand why DJI doesn't sell coloured props. Boring black props on a boring grey drone. DJI is leaving money on the table for sure. Cheers!
Parabéns pelo conteúdo, estou a procura dessas hélices para por no meu mini2, quero trazer para o Brasil.
Obrigado por assistir e obrigado pelo comentário! A Master Airscrew envia para mais de 200 países em todo o mundo, portanto você poderá obter hélices diretamente deles. Boa sorte!
Hi.
I was wondering if you found it to have added enough weight to exceed the 250g?
Also, does it still keep up with the level 5 wind resistance?
thanks.
The Mini SE and Mini 2 have similar takeoff weights of 242g. The MAS props are ~1.7g heavier so accounting for that you are still quite a bit below the 250g.
Theoretically the larger, heavier props should afford the drone a bit more wind resistance but I would suspect the benefit would be minimal. Cheers!
but if there's additional vibration - could this impact negatively on filming and photos?
I'd love to see that tested!
Hey Scott, I haven't noticed anything and I am quite picky about the quality of my photo/video work and I continue to use the MAS props. The little bit of extra vibration while idling on the ground doesn't seem to translate it to an issue in flight. Cheers!
I would like to try these but I`m concerned it will void DJI Refresh plan. Good review Steve. Like # 102!!!!
Exactly why I put it in there. I don't think it's common knowledge and I think it's best that folks know so they can make informed decisions. My Mini 2 is out of warranty and I don't have Care Refresh, so it's really not a risk for me. Thanks and cheers!
If you have to use refresh, just install stock blades before sending it in!
Do you think the extra vibrations will cause excessive wear over time?
Honestly, no. If the drone wasn't sitting on a paper surface, which is actually quite slippery, I probably would not have even noticed. On a more typical surface no movement was visible while idling. The only reason I did the test in the first place is I came across some posts about vibration with the MAS props while doing research for the video and I wanted to test it for myself.
You should be inspecting and replacing props on a regular basis. Between that and the amount of flight time it would take to potentially cause a problem, I think many folks will have either stopped flying or moved on to the next drone.
I have never understood why DJI doesn't make coloured props. I feel like most folks would rather buy OEM parts. Cheers!
Do you find the volume of the mini 2 with master airscrew to be the same level as the mini 3 pro... i currently find the mini 2 a bit too loud so im considerin buying these.
thanks
I didn't have a decibel meter when I made this video but I do now. I tested them about a month back and the Master Airscrew props ran approximately 2db quieter (70db for DJI, 68db for MAS). That's not a lot but combined with the lower pitch of the MAS props they definitely sound quieter. Cheers!
The lower sound pitch was nice compared to the high pitch. Maybe do sound level test at heights of 10 feet, 50 feet, and 100 feet to see if “stealth” does apply.
Got a review coming for MAS props + Mini 3 Pro so will definitely keep your suggestion in mind. Cheers!
Hi steve, I hope you'll notice this. May I asked if this prop still fits the prop guard of dji?
Hi! Good question. The Master Airscrew propellers are a bit longer than the DJI OEM parts so unfortunately they do make contact with the prop guards. I wish I had of noticed that before posting my video. Regardless, I did add it to the video description once I discovered it. Cheers!
Basically, a little bit better in every way. Quieter, more efficient, better performance, color options...
Question. Does the weight differential push a mini 2 SE over 250g?
Yep.
Nope. Even though the Master Airscrew props are heavier, the drone is still comfortable under 250g. Cheers!
with those 2 grams more (at least in EU) there are chances to go out from the C0 category ... which may make more complicated to fly it
in restricted areas
I don't know the EU laws specifically but the takeoff weight (including SD card) of the Mini 2 with Master Airscrew propellers installed is less than 240 grams. In Canada, anything under 250 grams is good. Cheers!
Interesting test, odd it did that slight moving at idle due to extra vibration...might be an issue if you launch off the box like I do sometimes⚠️😲😳
Edit- I like the fact they come in bright colours, helping a lot if you ever lose your drone, the stock grey and black is a tough colour to search for in dense undergrowth! 😲😁
Just a shame they don't do any for the original Mavic Mini ☹️
I did that test specifically because when I came across some complaints about vibration while researching for my review. I honestly didn't think it was too bad considering the drone was sitting on a paper surface, which is quite slippery. Regardless, it doesn't affect my day-to-day use.
I absolutely LOVE the colours for practical and aesthetic reasons. I don't understand why DJI hasn't made colourful options for their lower priced drones especially. I feel like they would be a popular option and most folks, I suspect, would rather have OEM parts. Cheers!
I’d argue finding Grey and Black in Undergrowth here in Oregon would be Easier then the color of the undergrowth which is legit Orange and Yellow.
If the Mini 2 is 249g then the Stealth props extra weight will take them over the 250g limit, won't it?
Nope. The takeoff weight of the Mini 2 with an SD card and Master Airscrew propellers is actually 239g. Cheers!
I have mini 2 se could anyone tell me a good combo package for landing gear and propellers
I still use the Master Airscrew props with my Mini 2 (same as SE) and still love them. I just recently got another set of the orange ones because I broke too many shooting video stuff indoors. Cheers!
I never understand why DJI don't make props in different colours I too find it very useful especially two different colours as help orientate the drones.
So I may check these out !?
I am exactly the same. It makes no sense to me that DJI wouldn't offer different colour options. I think they are leaving money on the table. Cheers!
Jus remeber,"Red on right, returning".
What is the net weight with the Master Airscrew blades installed?
Take-off weight, with the MAS blades and an SD card installed is 238.9 grams, still very comfortably under 249g. Cheers!
I wish someone would make props with a colored reflective surface. I think it would make the drone easier to spot at long distances.
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That's a great idea!
The Master Airscrew propeller blades offer a nice change of colour, though I found no difference to sound volume or performance with them in the Mini 2 compared to DJI's props.
My test results were different than yours but honestly, all else being equal, I would buy them just for the colour. I can't comprehend why DJI still doesn't offer some colourful options. I'm sure lots of folks wold love to customize their drones while sticking with OEM parts. Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts Cheers to that and to having more options.
Are the mini2 blades the same as the dji mini2 Se ?
Yes. Mini 2 and 2 SE use the same blades. Happy, safe flying!
So the blades from mini 2 fits on the SE model?
The propellers DJI sells for the Mini 2 are also compatible with the Mini SE. Master Airscrew propellers are the same, they work on both the Mini 2 and SE. Cheers!
Im assuming that difference in weight will now take the se over the 250 mark, wouldn’t it? They don’t give you a lot of weight to play with before you cross that threshold
On DJI's site they list takeoff weight of the SE at 242g (see footnote at the bottom of the spec page) so you would still be well under 249g even with some minor weight difference due to manufacturing variance. Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts awesome, thank you! I thought that it came in at 249, for some reason.
Excuse me sir, Can the DJI Mini 2 use the DJI MINI 3 PRO propeller?🤔 Thx
There are two problems with that. On the Mini 3 Pro, there are posts on the motors on to which the propellers mount. The Mini 2 does not have those posts. If you use the Mini 2 prop screws on the Mini 3 propellers on the Mini2, there is a significant gap between the head of the screw and the top of the prop, which could be problematic. The Mini 3 Pro screws are too short to grab on the Mini 2 so neither screw is suitable.
The second issue is that the Mini 3 Pro propellers are significantly longer than those of the Mini 2. While the props don't overlap from left to right, they do from front to back. It looks like they should clear vertically as they are at different heights but I suspect that overlap will change the flight characteristics considerably and could result in something very bad happening - haha.
So, yeah, probably not a good idea. 😀Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts Okay sir, Thanks for the explanation.👌
Do these propellers make them even quieter than the mini 3 ?
I didn't have a Mini 3 vs Mini 2 MAS prop comparison, so I did one. The Mini 2 with OEM props is the loudest of the bunch. The Mini 2 with MAS props and the Mini 3 Pro with OEM props is almost identical. I would say the Mini 3 Pro has a slightly lower pitch though. Bare in mind, it's all very close. There is about 1-2 decibel difference between loudest and quietest. The pitch, I think, makes the biggest difference as the MAS and Mini 3 Pro have the most pleasing sound. Cheers!
Sand down the raised letters to reduce noise and vibration
Yeah, I'm not sure I want to get that serious about it - haha! My Mini 2 still sports the Master Airscrew props and neither noise or vibration have been an issue. Really for me it's all about having some fun colour choices. 😀
@@SteveCoutts yes I understand, when I got my mavic 2 pro I got fixated on every aspect and when it came to the master screw blades I also studied the sounds and did a comparison. That's when I noticed the raised letters on the blades and thought why did they do that? I know it's not a big deal but aircraft propellers don't have anything like that how would that help performance? I really didn't notice a difference but my test wasn't surgical obviously it won't hurt to do that and I would not recommend it if you don't have the right tools but keep in mind these props are massed produced and I've found flashing on the edges before.
@@SteveCouttsI just got my props and I'm not sure if MAS is copied by China but mine had a good amount of flashing at the edges. Maybe a quality control issue? They had the official packaging but no box just props in a bag with extra screws. The mavic props dont have the extra flashing on the edges. I will say this when I crashed my MP2 I had the red props on and it made finding my drone very easy the red against the white snow made it easy to spot from 50 yards.
My problem was identifying cw & ccw there’s no way to tell,my drone never lifted off the ground!!
DJI and Master Airscrew props are marked/unmarked to indicate the correct motor for installation. It's briefly shown at 1:44. Cheers!
I recently purchased and installed these props but unfortunately the Props Guard detected warning came on automatically. Anyone know how to overcome this issue?
Interesting. I have three sets of MAS props and each set has been on my Mini 2 at some point and I haven't seen the problem you're describing. My first thought is if you have a second pair, try those instead and see if you have the same issue. Next I would contact Master Airscrew support and see if they can offer any assistance. Last option would be to post a query in the DJI Forum (forum.dji.com) and see if any one there has any suggestions for you. Good luck!
@@SteveCoutts found a solution by jus simply turning off the payload mode when this "props guard" or payload detected warning comes on... problem solved... thanks :)
@@hardybackyardgeo Ah ha! Simple solution! Thanks for sharing.
Even with the original props you can get a difference of 1minute more or less on the same flight.That vibrations will probably cause micro cracks in the construction over time and thats the reason why you never should use third party props.
I used them for weeks before composing my review and still use them. No complaints. Regardless of the prop being OEM or 3rd party, they still wear out over time and need to be inspected and replaced on a regular basis. I suppose there is always a touch more risk using 3rd party but I have had good success in the past. The MAS props are definitely higher quality than some of the others I have used. Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts Can you confirm now for sure that you have more flight time with the master airscrews or is it pretty much the same?How is your longterm experience now?
@@sebw3964 During my testing, yes, consistently more flight time but it was a very specific test. Same days, weather and flight path in sport mode, generally full throttle back and forth and idling until forced to land. Consistent and measurable gain with the MAS props.
I received the props in mid-December 2021. I flew with them exclusively until uploading my review. The only time they have been swapped out since is when I broke a set (hit the wall shooting indoors), testing M2 vs M3Pro stock drones or for photos. I prefer them mainly for the colour/visibility and noise/pitch. Day to day I don't notice extra flight time or better performance because it's not that significant of a difference and it's not what I am paying attention to when flying.
If you're thinking about buying them specifically for an extra minute of airtime, it's probably not worth it. It's going to be one of those "your mileage may vary" things. Depending on how/where/when you fly maybe you'll get extra, maybe you won't. In my opinion the number one advantage is visibility/look, number two is noise. Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts If i would buy them,only because of the lower Pitch.Like that.But for my taste just to expensive for only one set of props.The othe downside is they are more fragile like the stock ones.One brach and they shatter in 100 pieces.That vibrating is a kind of Dealbreaker.Stuff can get lose or damaged over time.Mid air not so funny.I wonder if Somebody tried to get the Mini3 Pro screws on the Mini2.Cheers
Not entirely sure if this works for the mini 2 SE? can someone confirm?
The propellers work for both the Mini 2 and Mini SE. It's right on Master Airscrew's website. Cheers!
I don’t see any of the mavic mini props anymore on the website 💔
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@@SteveCoutts sucks :/ dji is sold out as well. Looks like I’m going to have to upgrade 🫡
2Db isn't a lot. lower tone changes perceived loudness
Yes, exactly. It's definitely a nicer pitch though. Cheers!
any difference at max speed?
No difference in maximum speed. I thought that the Master Airscrew blades made maneuvering feel snappier but I really have no hard data to back that up.
How do it give u more fly time
I don't have a technical answer for you. All I can say is that in my testing, with as similar flight paths and operations as I could make them, the Master Air Screw props consistently resulted in longer flight times. Cheers!
Somewhere I read the master airscrew props can hit the body of DJI mini 2
I have not read that for these propellers nor has that been my experience. They will make contact with the prop guards however because they are a touch longer than the DJI OEM props. I still fly with the MAS props. Cheers!
Long term? Should I confirm my purchase? I’m on the fence
LOL. Still using them. Still problem free. I didn't mention it in the video but it's in the description, they are a bit too long for prop guards so just a heads up on that. I also took a good chunk out of one the other day shooting b roll. I crashed in to a shelf. My favourite orange ones too. Now, I'm rolling half orange, half yellow. Still stand by the review. Solid third-party props. Cheers!
I don’t use prop guards, I have motor covers, on a mini se so nothing bad to say about them? Besides user error, it happens haha
@@devinarnold3635 No, honestly, I can't say anything negative about them. I have been using them since December 2021, when I received them. Pretty much flying exclusively except when I switched the props back to DJI OEM for testing. No problems. No errors in the flight logs. They are a bit quieter but the more pleasing pitch is the most noticeable. Definitely a big boost to visibility. Love the colours! Still never understood why DJI doesn't offer some colourful options. I am going to order a couple more sets myself. One orange to replace the set I broke and probably blue because it just looks awesome!
@@SteveCoutts awesome! Thank you so much, I ended up buying a few, and definitely got some colors! Your idea about mixing colors is cool! Thank you for your time to reply! Happy flying from Louisville!
The heavier props put the drone into the register for fcc law
The Mini 2's takeoff weight with OEM props is ~238g. The MAS props are ~2g heavier than DJI props. The Mini 2's takeoff weight with MAS props is a full 9g under the FAA limit. Cheers!
Any diffrence in speeds?
Nope. Pretty much a wash. Cheers!
@Steve Coutts
Sand off the part no. from the propellers and any remains from the casting.........
........and both the Airscrew and DJI standard sets of propellers will be CONSIDERABLY quieter !
(leftovers on the edges is a DISASTER for the micro aerodynamics of the propeller - and the letters seems to be a delibrate attempt to knock it completely off the rails - astounding that the DJI designers did not have the final say in this after all their effort to make the propellers perfect - the letters could have been imbedded in the material instead of made to stick out - on a perfect 90 degree angle from the surface maximizing the air resistance and micro turbulence - no wonder the noise !)
Interesting. I will have to try that. Cheers!
your wife thought they were quite as her ears covered by her hat lol
LOL. Canadian toques have built-in acoustic features so we don't get run over by rogue moose in the winter. 😀
Wouldn’t a decibel Meter be a basic Redford such a test ?!
A decibel meter would have been nice if only to have a precise measurement but really I don't think it matters all that much. Drones are so noisy that any improvement in sound will be noticeable and there definitely is an improvement. More important though is how they perform and can they be trusted. My testing focused more on having confidence in a third-party propeller manufacturer. Happy flying, cheers!
Nice review. One drawback of these propellers is that it will push Mini 2 over 250g limit. You either care about it or don't but it's a fact.
Hi Matti, that's not true. The Mini 2's takeoff weight with the MAS propellers and an SD card installed is 239.9g by my scale. Still room to add an ND filter too! The Mini 2 was actually lighter than the original Mini, by like 10+ grams or something. Most of that reduction came from reduced battery weight. Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts hmm… yes you are right. I weighted my Mini 2 and it is 239g plain vanilla. Propellers + ND-filter might tip the scales, though. But due to your review I ended up ordering two sets of these. Thanks.
@@MattiRemonen_Hki Hey Matti, I use the Freewell gear ND filters and they only weight about 1g each, so still plenty off room before you hit the 249g mark. Let me know how the props work out for you. I may actually buy some more. Probably another set of orange and I think the blue looks pretty cool too. Cheers!
If you’re that close to weighing over, just don’t charge the battery all the way.
@@joshua7999 the drone will get lighter as it flys so there is no real point in doing that.
I'm alway suspicious of ppl that say while I was given the item free it will not affect my decision but no ones going to cut of the hand that feeds them with freebies and if they do criticise it it's usually in a way that's not going to make them out to be assholes. Nevertheless cool video.
Understandable. In this "age of the influencer" it's hard to know who is acting with integrity. Ultimately, I feel it comes down to the character of the person, which is something that is only revealed over time. Certainly not in a single video.
I am quite particular about the gear I review and it results in those products typically becoming a part of my daily kit. My Mini 2, Mini 3 Pro and Mini 4 Pro all fly with MAS propellers. Eagle-eyed subscribers may notice that in my other videos. Case in point my Mini 4 Pro unboxing video. I bring my Mini 3 Pro in to the video for comparison sake and it's sporting MAS props.
By your logic I guess someone who purchases the gear they review is more trustworthy? Could be for some folks but again, I think it comes down to the character of the individual. Perhaps they are just a fan boy of the brand. Maybe they are giving favourable reviews in the hopes of getting free product in the future. How would you know?
I don't make a living from UA-cam. I do it mostly for fun but do enjoy getting some free stuff that I would actually use. It takes me an INSANE amount of time to do a proper review so it's nice to get a little reward for all the work. Besides being good content, I primarily review stuff to help folks make more informed buying decisions. Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts Thanks for the detailed clarification mate. Cheers
@@NathanChisholm041 You bet! Cheers! 😀
I got mine (M2)on your recommendation 2 months ago and as for noise, the pitch is definitely more desirable.
My only complaint is that they are a tad longer than stock and that means the don't fit very well in my blade guards.
Yeah, they are a bit too long for prop guards. I thought about including that tidbit but I dropped it in the end. Honestly for me, it's having a trustworthy option for colourful props above everything else. I never understood why DJI hasn't added some colourful propeller options, especially for their Mini line, which is probably their best seller. 😀 Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts you should have to pay for anything that you review it does bring a bit more credibility to your “unbiased” review
Is it compatible with Mavic Mini 1 ?
No. They are only compatible with the Mini 2 / SE. Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts Thanks
Doesn't this make the drone go.over 250 grams?
Nope. Still comfortably under 250 grams. Cheers!
the amount of noise is the same, only the tone changes
I didn't have a decibel meter when I made the video so I couldn't test it. The lower pitch is the most noticeable aspect and even if it is not quieter, it is definitely more pleasing to the ears. Cheers!
1:52 pretty sure dji says that just so they can sell more props
LOL. You're probably right. 👍
I think they are quieter
I didn't have a decibel meter when I made the video but now I do. Maybe it's time for a follow-up? 😀
@@SteveCoutts I have the same drone dji mini se I’m getting stealth propellers
Your comment about blades vibrating causing mini to move when on the ground idling. That's not correct, the master airscrew props are producing more lift at the slower rpm causing the drone to be light on its gear... Good review otherwise. Also technically you can mix colors as long as the blades weigh the same and are the same pitch direction. Using your gram scale or a prop balancer works as well.
Thanks for the info, cheers!
Did not make any difference in the end for my mini 2. I even tested DB levels with oem and ms work hardly any difference in noise level that any subject nearby can still hear, nor distance improvement over many flights. Colors make no sense if you flying unless there is some efficiency I was not aware of 🤔
For me this is a pitch (sorry for the pun).
Real improvement lies in seriously reducing DB (by at least 50%) which in my case would be from around 85DB to 40DB at 1.5m height and1m away from DB reader
MAS only claims "up to" a 2db improvement in noise. I said they sounded "a touch quieter" with a pitch "more pleasing to our ears" being more noticeable. I even let the noise level from both sets play so viewers could judge for themselves. Not sure why you're surprised by the noise level unless you purchased before my vid.
A part of me likes prop noise though because I like to know when a drone is in the area when I'm not the one piloting it.
I explained my testing methodology in the video and consistently got more flight time, observable in the log files. If you don't put some effort in to dedicated test, I suspect you wouldn't even notice a benefit. MAS only claims "up to" 3% improvement but like anything, your mileage will vary.
Other than aesthetics, which I LOVE, the only benefit to coloured props is visibility. Definitely improved with the bright colours. Speaking from experience, finding a grey drone with black props high up in a tree is a painstaking, almost impossible task. Brightly coloured props make it so much easier.
I love my MAS props and they will continue to rock my Mini 2. I actually need to grab another set of orange because I killed one of mine hitting the wall shooting b-roll for another video - doh! Cheers!
I bought air screw stealth propellers for my Mavic 2 Pro and i am very disappointed. Absolutely no better, and maybe worse than the ones that came with the drone.
Did you reach out to MAS for a refund or replacement? I can't say a bad word about mine. Still flying with them and still love them! Honestly, my preference would be that DJI would make some colourful options but they don't seem to be interested in doing that. Cheers!
@@SteveCoutts I just contacted Amazon and they gave me a complete refund didn’t even ask for them back
I like carbon fiber blades better
I've reprogrammed my dji mini to turn on when people walk in to my yard..it has its own home on top of my house 🏠 and even will self charge itself when the battery runs low...the perfect watch dog 🐕.
Nice 👍🏾
We need a video on they set up.
But then ur drone will come above 250G
No. The takeoff weight of the Mini 2 with the Master Airscrew propellers is ~239.7 grams. DJI lists the takeoff weight of the Mini 2 at 242 grams, although they say that weight can vary. The extra 1.7 grams of the Master Airscrew propellers will not push it above 249 grams. I should have mentioned that in the video. Sorry for the trouble, cheers!
Pay for it like the rest of us do, you’ll have far more credibility amongst the plebes
As someone who’s hard earned money pays for cameras, lenses, drones, microphones, lights, batteries, memory cards, etc getting something for free now and again is a nice and welcome bonus. I get product offers every single week, most I ignore. When an opportunity comes along to use and review a quality product that would be of interest to me and my audience and it’s not going to cost me anything, I usually jump at it.
Seen as a one-off video, I get it. The credibility comes through my channel as a whole and as you see me continue to use the MAS props I gushed about in future videos. Cheers!
A little too late….no one cares about the mini 2 anymore…..old tech……nice try…….
I disagree. Cheers!
Says who...🤔
Videos like this are not very credible and are just advertisements. I'm leaving this channel...
Yeah, perhaps I was gushing a bit more than usual in this one. I have tried third-party props in the past for my Mini 1 (ua-cam.com/video/fuEwpzRbpHM/v-deo.html) and although they worked well for me, the quality was definitely suspect and I stopped using them. I have been dying for fun, colourful props from a brand I could trust for my Mini 2 for a long time now. MAS has a good reputation for quality products, so it's certainly no stretch by me to back that up. Seen as a one-off I get it. The credibility part comes from my channel as a whole and seeing me continue to fly with the props I gushed about. Cheers John!