Once Quaid e Azam Muhammad Ali jinnah said, Muslim ppl who currently refused Pakistan wlll spend rest of their lives to provide evidence of their love with india... Javed Akhtar clarifications is the best example of that... Aye quaid e Azam tera ehsan hai ehsan.. Salute to Quaid e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah....
@@goldenheart7694 dekhiye janab main hindustani hu 30 saal ka aur mere buzurg hindustani aur mujhe kabhi musalman hindu ke nazariye ko nahi dekha bas yeh kuch waqt chodke. Hukumran aayenge jayinge jo jiski soch hain woh waisa karega but hind ka foundation me mazhab nahi aur na majority logo me mazhab ke tasur nazar ayenge. Masla yeh hua hain ke jo log extreme ideology ke hain woh govt. Me hain aur isse wajah se aap sabko yeh lagta hain ke hindustan me saare musalman pareshan hain, jaanta hu halaat thode kharab hain lekin InshaAllah yeh waqt bhi guzar jayega. Agar hindustan mazhabi hota toh aaj 73 saal baad hind me musalman 25 crore na hote. See the larger picture my friend when u analyze things.
Nice try but I'm surprised Javed saheb couldn't define the terms "ehl-e-safa" and "mardood-e-haram" correctly. As a native Urdu speaker and a long-time follower of Faiz saheb's timeless work, I can assure you that these terms do not mean "clean people" (which is almost a laughable transliteration) and "condemned by religion," respectively. Ehl-e-safa refers to the story of the "Ashaab-e-Safa" (People of the Bench) who were excommunicated by the Arab tribes and mardood-e-haram simply means those shunned from the holy sanctuary (an analogy for those who can not enter the compounds of the government that exemplify the establishment/dispensation). Sad that someone like Javed saheb is unaware of the meaning of such iconic verses.
That was "Ashab e Suffa" not Safa😂😂😂😂 Faiz Ahmed Faiz was not religious persom, he just used these terms as metaphor 😂😂😂 Javed akhtar explained it very well.
Mardood-e-haram is not mentioned here as symbol of religion. Rather, it is mentioned here as symbol of govt. bodies from where ordinary people have been denied access to.
Remember the same Faiz Ahmed Faiz..who planned a military coup ( under leadership of general Akbar Khan ) in 1951 also known as the Rawalpindi conspiracy.. The main reason for the failed military coup was the ceasefire with india in 1951 first kashmir war. The coup plotters ( including faiz ) believed that the Muslim Pakistan should capture kashmir and there should be no peace with india.. Do your research and you will see it's the truth.. And today these so-called JNU students think of faiz as a great revolutionist.
The Faiz poetry refers to important people falling from grace like the statues falling in Kaaba after rise of Islam. Nothing in the poetry refers even remotely to the Hindus. This poem was written against dictatorial rule of former President Zia-ul-Haq in Pakistan again nothing to do with India.
@@tootsie40 urdu poetry is full of tashbehat, which is symbolism. I've read poems of famous authors where the formation of pearls actually presents the journey of sadness and despair to hope. Or a horse ride symbolising the end of the world and after life. In this poem "bhut" are the people/symbols that have placed them selves as gods In the world. Faiz was a communist and even now, on faiz day, you have communist students and journalists who join and make a small protest. In pakistan, alot of anti-army politicians over time(including fatima jinah) have called army as "angels", depicting how they are untouchable etc. I just find it silly that u would rather trust your own silly translation rather than actually trusting the professionals and doing your research.
Faiz ahmad faiz ki poem pakistan ke tanashahi ke khilaf use ki gayi thi... lekin India me jo government hai usko logo ne chuna hai, aur unone chunav ke vakt NRC ke bare me bola tha tabh bhi logo ne bahumat se unko chun ke diya, to yah log kya democracy hatake military dictatorship chahte hai kya???
@@salmansagheer456 Ha bhai, modi ne chunav ke khoshna patra me sab likha tha.. tab bhi logo ne usse chun ke diya.. ab congress ko uss faisle ko revert karna hai to chunav jite ya fir court me modi ke decision pe objection le... dharne, morche nikalne se kya fayda???
@@salmansagheer456 Nahi bhai Muslims ke against me law nahi hai.. ap hi bataye ap yah kaisa bol sakte hai.. ham sab Indian hai.. agar kisi Indian ke khilaf yah law jayega to suprim court to hai hi
Chalo kuchh bhee! A generation of India came to know about Faiz Sahab and his poetry. Faiz Sahab was a poet of the oppressed, he will be relevant till there is injustice anywhere... Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰
Remember the same Faiz Ahmed Faiz..who planned a military coup ( under leadership of general Akbar Khan ) in 1951 also known as the Rawalpindi conspiracy.. The main reason for the failed military coup was the ceasefire with india in 1951 first kashmir war. The coup plotters ( including faiz ) believed that the Muslim Pakistan should capture kashmir and there should be no peace with india.. Do your research and you will see it's the truth.. And today these so-called JNU students think of faiz as a great revolutionist.
IIT Waalaa ho, chahe Javed akhtar ho, chaahe amir khan ho, chahe IAS ,chahe teacher khan sir ho, ho sabhi asmani kitab Ko maan_ne waale he sab jihaadi o ko bachaate huwe paye jayengge.
It is so disappointing to see Javed Akhtar does not know the meaning of Ahl e Safa. It is not ‘safai’, instead Safa is a place right next to Masjid e Haram, where poor people used to live and were taken care by Prophet PBUH. His limited knowledge is really disappointing, given he is fighting the case of this poem.
"People will be condemned by the religion" is sufficient to understand the whole meaning of this peom because which religion. People will be condemned by the one idiology which is islam and according to islam state law is against the Qur'an. And they won't be settled until unless Sharia will be Nafiz on the state.
Arre malik! Point he is making is those clean people, yet condemned by religion(referring to law of the land(dictatorship)), will sit on the throne(masnad). How can you read this as only a pro-Islam poetry? Everything written in Urdu doesn't become a Islamic text.
@@prakash-ny7sj Hahahahaahahahahahaha funniest shit I've ever if you knew anything about his life and politics you'll know he was against an extremist dictator who used Islam not Islam itself its mind-boggling how Indians like something but cant comprehend that it came from Pakistani Muslim so they try to make it anti Islamic to feel better
@@akshatdhaka8042 LOL! How much Hindi literature do you know? And I don’t think you must be knowing any Sanskrit though I may be wrong. Urdu poetry and literature is sublime and read and appreciated by Muslims and Hindus both.
@@sm1111 Yaar main ye Keh raha hoon ki jinke recorded texts duniya main pehle hain unka itna gross generalisation toh mat Karo. Baki tumhari har baat se agreed.
wo to hy or rhe gaa. baqi faiz ahmad faiz ny pakistan ki govt k khilad baat ki thi. butt doesnt mean sanatan moorti god but it means sketch and idea also
@@umairahmad5184 "Wo toh h or rhega". Dekh yahi bakwaas phir dikkat deti h. Kisi ko farak nhi padta tu kis cult ka h. Poem mei Allah ka literal meaning god thha or context mei ek era of peace thha, yeh kyu nhi clear kr deta?? Poet bhi atheist thha aur jo uss poem ka mtlb samjha rha h voh bhi atheist. No offence but dono hi nhi maante Allah mei. Tum dono ek hi jaise ho.
Are you nuts...faiz s Wrote this poetry for Zia ul haq (a dictator) was he a hindu? Was he referring Zia as Hindustan??? Where did this ghazwa hind came from in this couplets?😂😂 Whatsapp university 😂😂
@@muhibullahhamza1415 It's ghaza hind Wo din ke jis ka wada hai Jo lauh-e-azl mein likha hai Aur ahl-e-hukam ke sar oopar Jab bijli kad kad kadkegi, (I hope you know about ahl e kitab) Jab arz-e-khudaa ke kaabe se Sab but uthwaaey jaayenge, (but means murtia/statues ) Sab taaj uchaaley jaayenge. Sab takht giraaey jayyenge. Bas naam rahega Allah ka Jo ghayib bhi hai hazir bhi Jo manzar bhi hai nazir bhi Utthega an-al-haq ka nara Utthega an-al-haq ka nara
oh gawar "Wo din k jiska wada he " is dooms day Faiz narrating quran here when on Dooms day Allah will ask who is the truth now ? Who is god now ? And these dictators who have become god on his earth will be unable to speak. As this day is promised by god . How can you be this gawar , Urdu is Muslims language using Muslims references and narration , you Hindus playing victim cards everywhere try to act relevant,,stop embarrassing yourselves for god sake @@bapidey844
Sab dekhenge sab dekhenge din k jiska pran hai liya Nischit hai vi din aayega Sab dekhenge sab dekhenge Nischit hai sab dekhenge Sab dekhenege sab dekhenge Apne hi ghar se bhagaye gaye Kuch kaate gaye kuch jalaye gaye Hum dashko se ashkon me doobe rahe Ek shan bhi na pukare gaye Jo peeda humari dekhenege To vo bhi thar thar kaapenge
Hahahahahaha they are criticising the protester for singing mighty faiz. Try singing yeh ghazi yeh teray pur israr bunday, jinhain tu nay bakhsha hai zaukh e khudai, do neem unki thokar say shera o darya, simmat kar pahar unki haibath say rai.
No this is not Real defenation. Faiz said : Jab Arz e khuda ke kabba se Se but uthwaya jayenge Means When Idols from the kabba of God's earth will be removed. This Hints towards a historical accident when prophet Muhammad ﷺ conquered Mecca then All mecca accept Islam. Then He removed the idols from kabba and destroyed. Okay
Remember the same Faiz Ahmed Faiz..who planned a military coup ( under leadership of general Akbar Khan ) in 1951 also known as the Rawalpindi conspiracy.. The main reason for the failed military coup was the ceasefire with india in 1951 first kashmir war. The coup plotters ( including faiz ) believed that the Muslim Pakistan should capture kashmir and there should be no peace with india.. Do your research and you will see it's the truth.. And today these so-called JNU students think of faiz as a great revolutionist.
That shows collective wisdom of Indians as nation..storm in the tea cup..can't understand straight verses unless a rare literate person has to clarify to them..what was the fuss about before that? Koi sharam koi haya?
If vande mataram is anti Muslim then hum dekhenge is anti Hindu. When ignorant Muslims shout that they will break idols , in India next to a temple, that means they are using this song to convey hatred. Why is smashing idols considered correct by Faiz?? That is wrong.
I never thought this will be a debate. There is pure mis communication due to unawareness of urdu and its poetic style. The context of this poem was zia era when he ruled in 1980's decade.There is nothing wrong or anti hindu in this poem. Faiz was not against any religion or belief nor he hate even some said he was athiest.
Remember the same Faiz Ahmed Faiz..who planned a military coup ( under leadership of general Akbar Khan ) in 1951 also known as the Rawalpindi conspiracy.. The main reason for the failed military coup was the ceasefire with india in 1951 first kashmir war. The coup plotters ( including faiz ) believed that the Muslim Pakistan should capture kashmir and there should be no peace with india.. Do your research and you will see it's the truth.. And today these so-called JNU students think of faiz as a great revolutionist.
Urdu poetry is full of tashbehat, which is symbolism. I've read poems of famous authors where the formation of pearls actually presents the journey of sadness and despair to hope. Or a horse ride symbolising the end of the world and after life. In this poem "bhut" are the people/symbols that have placed them selves as gods In the world. Faiz was a communist and even now, on faiz day, you have communist students and journalists who join and make a small protest. In pakistan, alot of anti-army politicians over time(including fatima jinah) have called army as "angels", depicting how they are untouchable etc. I just find it silly that u would rather trust your own silly translation rather than actually trusting the professionals and doing your research.
This is not Pakistan this is India where idols are sacred, keeping India in the context, this song should be changed if it only against the government not Hindu faith.
People of urdu haven't given one useful thing to the world apart from social unrest & shayari. Only these people think that they are educated because they know urdu. I pity them all.
This ghazal of the great Urdu poet Faiz Ahmed Faiz. Sung by Iqbal bano who are Pakistanis. Stop Singing because you don't even know the meaning of this. But it's nice to hear name "Allah" from your mouth.
wah Javed sahb wah.... great explanation,,,, Kya understanding hy aapki Faiz Ahmad Faiz ki... A Sindhi from Sindh, Pakistan, Love the Ghazal, Love Pak-Bharat.
Sirf naam rahega Allah ka.....this is Indian secularism in a nutshell. That is why they will lose every election and scratch their head and wonder what went wrong?
Wow I can't believe I am actually correcting honorable Javed Sahib. My Urdu has improved lately I just realized it.. So here it goes Arz-e-Khuda ka kaaba means House of Power like parliament, Presidency etc. Ahl-e-Safa means (Akhwan-e-Safa) "Brethren of Purity" It was a radical open-minded secret society of Muslim Scholars and scientists in the 8th century who began to question the authenticity of Islam and other religions. So in a way modern people. Mardood-e-Haram means untouchables, achoots (People who are look down upon) Political interpretation: the masses. Masnad means The Office. Bas naam rahe ga Allah ka jo ghaib bhi hay aor Hazir bhi: It means the name of God will become insignificant because he'll remain there with least disturbed by human sufferings. In the next line Faiz sahib eloquently used (Goonje ga An-Al-Haq ka naara) it means an era of human accomplishments will start. And religions will become null and void.
Oh uncle agar ye line hoti jab sare ibadat gah giraye jayenge aur naam rahega bas raam ka tab aap defend kar lete uss poem ko???? Puri duniya ka dictionary dhund kar hi kaba ka kaba ke ilawa koi matlab nahi nikalta aur udhar se sare buut uthaye jane is kya matlab hai pata hai hume.... arz e khuda ke kabe me kaun sa insaan ka buut rahta hai ji...aur 'sare buut ' matlab sare.... koi zalim hai uska hota to zalimo ki buut uthaye jayenge ye mention karne ki alfaz kya poet ka nahi rahta... "saare buut matlab saare buut " koi special nahi ho sakta uncle ji... saare but hathake Allah ke buut nahi dalenge idhar to agar Allah = God hai unki v kuch forms ki buut hote hain kayin naam hai religion hota hai ..... itni v samajhdari nahi jo cheez Islamic republic of Pakistan me bahot sweet lagta hai wo Hindustan me nahi ho sakta hai
Obviously this was written against Zia ul Haq a dictator.... So here in Pakistan it was written accordingly and later it became the symbol of resistance Truly a WhatsApp university graduate in 😂
Really don't we have other things to discuss that we are discussing this arje barje. Economy slowdown MMR IMR Rupee fall and oil price hije nothing we can discuss we can discuss what is irrelevant today modern world.
Kisi ko ghanta fark nhi pdta ...logo ko ye krne me Maza bahot aa rha h qki apparently inko lgta h yelog sensible responsible aware educated log h . Ghnta !
Lol javaid akhtar didnt know the meaning of ahl e safa? Such an ignorant person from islamic history. Safa was a place at Prophet's time where poor students who were newly converted to islam and were thrown out of their families were resided. They sat there and read n understand Quran. Since they were poor and miserable, they were not allowed in Harum i.e. Kaaba by Quraish who were ruling the place then and were anti islamic. So the poet said that ahl e safa whom the chiefs of that time were taking as unworthy of Kaaba (harum) will in future sit on the throne (will take the governance in their hands). He meant to say the poor down trodden will rule the world and tyrant will be thrown out.
Yes bilkul nahi hai Proof Dene ki Ek ahmadiya ko proof Dene ki. Jarurat nahi Abdus Salaam ko jisne first Nobel prize jeeta unko proof Dene ki jarurat nahi Shia muslim jinko kaafir bolke masjid mai blast kiya aur sipahe sahiba ne rally nikali unko proof Dene Ki jarurat nahi.
Goal of Hinduism is Higher MORALS . Shri Ram Kills Ravan who Kidnap sita. Shri Krishna fights for saving Justice and Good from Evil of Kans / Duryodhan ......... While Goal of Islam is ?
Javed says he is atheist and yet he is defending a problematic aspect of islam. Even if the poem is figurative, it is based on a belief held by muslims and an actual event.
To be honest with u all in this poetry scenarios are so perfectly defined regarding general situation of our society and what will happen in future .. Most specifically when Islam will spread to all over the world and before that there will be a war .
Just explain the "sab but uthwaye jayenge and bas nam rahega Allah ka " I too used to listen to this song with reverence but not anymore when I studied the words. After all how is that being a communist, Faiz mentioned Allah. Now we all know all communists show love for Islam and hate for Hindus. Sadat Hassan Manto was a true Communist. Ms Qurtulain Haider was a true Communist they had an equal eye.
Once Quaid e Azam Muhammad Ali jinnah said, Muslim ppl who currently refused Pakistan wlll spend rest of their lives to provide evidence of their love with india... Javed Akhtar clarifications is the best example of that...
Aye quaid e Azam tera ehsan hai ehsan.. Salute to Quaid e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah....
So true
@@sakeenaakhtar2613 Are u?
Hahahahahaha hadd hain Yaar bhai. 73 saal hua azad hoke ab agar kuch waqt se yeh ho raha hain aap usse saara jayeza lagana bequfi ki alamat hain.
@@723743 73 saal ki history b per lain aap..... Clarifications hi milan ge...
@@goldenheart7694 dekhiye janab main hindustani hu 30 saal ka aur mere buzurg hindustani aur mujhe kabhi musalman hindu ke nazariye ko nahi dekha bas yeh kuch waqt chodke. Hukumran aayenge jayinge jo jiski soch hain woh waisa karega but hind ka foundation me mazhab nahi aur na majority logo me mazhab ke tasur nazar ayenge. Masla yeh hua hain ke jo log extreme ideology ke hain woh govt. Me hain aur isse wajah se aap sabko yeh lagta hain ke hindustan me saare musalman pareshan hain, jaanta hu halaat thode kharab hain lekin InshaAllah yeh waqt bhi guzar jayega. Agar hindustan mazhabi hota toh aaj 73 saal baad hind me musalman 25 crore na hote. See the larger picture my friend when u analyze things.
Sir why are you explaining to these carnival of idiots ? Itni samajh iske poore generation main nahi hogi🤣
Ha ha ha ha ha
Zabardast ha ha ha ha
Isiki ki puri generation me koi samajh nahi he.
Haha shi mein.
Haa in mullo ki maa ki samaj hu m
😒 all I heard was Allah only....nothing else...khuda ne kidhar dunia banayi h.? 😒 Iske ander ka muslim nai jaayega ...despite they r from India
Nice try but I'm surprised Javed saheb couldn't define the terms "ehl-e-safa" and "mardood-e-haram" correctly. As a native Urdu speaker and a long-time follower of Faiz saheb's timeless work, I can assure you that these terms do not mean "clean people" (which is almost a laughable transliteration) and "condemned by religion," respectively. Ehl-e-safa refers to the story of the "Ashaab-e-Safa" (People of the Bench) who were excommunicated by the Arab tribes and mardood-e-haram simply means those shunned from the holy sanctuary (an analogy for those who can not enter the compounds of the government that exemplify the establishment/dispensation). Sad that someone like Javed saheb is unaware of the meaning of such iconic verses.
Thinking the same!
He tried to put it in simple words for kids
Obviously Javed sb can precisely describe these terms but its a matter of fact that he is an Indian and wants to live there 😜
Javed Akhtar ko bhut ache se inke matlab PTA he pr usko hindhuo ko pagal banana he isliye ghuma fira k bol rha he
That was "Ashab e Suffa" not Safa😂😂😂😂
Faiz Ahmed Faiz was not religious persom, he just used these terms as metaphor 😂😂😂 Javed akhtar explained it very well.
Mardood-e-haram is not mentioned here as symbol of religion. Rather, it is mentioned here as symbol of govt. bodies from where ordinary people have been denied access to.
USKO BATANA BHI TW HAI KAY MAIN INDIA SAY PYAR KRTA HUN MORE THAN ISLAM.
"Truth is like a poetry"
Saare but uthaye jayenge
Every Idol/deities will be destroy.
That's why hate this religion. Bloody Islam.
Kashmir files 🔥
Remember the same Faiz Ahmed Faiz..who planned a military coup ( under leadership of general Akbar Khan ) in 1951 also known as the Rawalpindi conspiracy.. The main reason for the failed military coup was the ceasefire with india in 1951 first kashmir war. The coup plotters ( including faiz ) believed that the Muslim Pakistan should capture kashmir and there should be no peace with india..
Do your research and you will see it's the truth..
And today these so-called JNU students think of faiz as a great revolutionist.
Javid Akhtar's mobile password is 123456 😂😂 (2.16)
Yes hahahahaha
Good observation
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arre bhaisaab!!!!!!! lol
are bhai kya observation hai
The Faiz poetry refers to important people falling from grace like the statues falling in Kaaba after rise of Islam. Nothing in the poetry refers even remotely to the Hindus. This poem was written against dictatorial rule of former President Zia-ul-Haq in Pakistan again nothing to do with India.
Hmm but why did the statues fall though? Ever tried questioning the morals of a warlord that destroyed Arabic paganism?+
@@tootsie40 absolutely, it's obvious and yet it's somehow being ignored
You are it had nothing to do with india.. Indian Muslims takes these as literally they are shouting against Hindus here, 😂😂😂😂
@@tootsie40 urdu poetry is full of tashbehat, which is symbolism. I've read poems of famous authors where the formation of pearls actually presents the journey of sadness and despair to hope. Or a horse ride symbolising the end of the world and after life.
In this poem "bhut" are the people/symbols that have placed them selves as gods In the world. Faiz was a communist and even now, on faiz day, you have communist students and journalists who join and make a small protest.
In pakistan, alot of anti-army politicians over time(including fatima jinah) have called army as "angels", depicting how they are untouchable etc. I just find it silly that u would rather trust your own silly translation rather than actually trusting the professionals and doing your research.
@@rafayop9610 professional apologists for what your unwashed brethren do on the streets on the daily?
Ab poetry me bhi logo ne dharm dhund liya.......kya bekkar media hai jo ise aur fela rhe hai.
Shukar hai tm bhi maan gaye ho ky Indian media aisa hai
Media Terror ka dosra nam h
@@asifkhan5036 bro Indian media is a shame to india.
@@asifkhan5036 media chahy Indian ho ya pakistani such bolu to dono fasadi hen
Ye propoga propoganda h sb
Aise toh poora ka poora Hinduism hi poetry h bhai fir padaai muslim logon ko b usko
If Poetry has no religion
This poem against zia ul Haq the dictator, first clearly understand Faiz
Faiz ahmad faiz ki poem pakistan ke tanashahi ke khilaf use ki gayi thi... lekin India me jo government hai usko logo ne chuna hai, aur unone chunav ke vakt NRC ke bare me bola tha tabh bhi logo ne bahumat se unko chun ke diya, to yah log kya democracy hatake military dictatorship chahte hai kya???
@@SOMESH54321 democracy hi countries k lye best dictatorship is worst part of government
@@salmansagheer456
Ha bhai, modi ne chunav ke khoshna patra me sab likha tha.. tab bhi logo ne usse chun ke diya.. ab congress ko uss faisle ko revert karna hai to chunav jite ya fir court me modi ke decision pe objection le... dharne, morche nikalne se kya fayda???
Muslims k against ya law hai unho nay tu BJP ko vote bhi nahi dia hooga,
@@salmansagheer456
Nahi bhai Muslims ke against me law nahi hai.. ap hi bataye ap yah kaisa bol sakte hai.. ham sab Indian hai.. agar kisi Indian ke khilaf yah law jayega to suprim court to hai hi
Chotya log is ko bhe Hindu Muslim kr rhe hn media Indian 🤪😂🤣
@Sa Ba Bhai ap ke sach p ha kese suntte ho agar Hindu Muslim kr ke sunno ge to ease he lagy ga
Bhai aapas ki baat hai, army walon ki jalti nai hai Faiz se?
P.S : Black Vigo ni bhejna.. lol.
Chalo kuchh bhee!
A generation of India came to know about Faiz Sahab and his poetry.
Faiz Sahab was a poet of the oppressed, he will be relevant till there is injustice anywhere...
Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰
not for Kashmiri pandits though, they were kicked out in the name of allah
@@prophetg306 Irony is your fellow hindus are using this song in Kashmir files
@@durontooprotiroddho8316 Just to show how Islamist whenever in majority kills all minority. It's a war cry and a drum beat of fascism
@@prophetg306 so what can Faiz do?
@@aloksrivastava2797
Not make communal crap
The lack of knowledge is the main problem 🙏🙏
Afzal Guru was a professor tha.. this is not about knowledge don't mislead it by saying this.. this is because of a book and it's oretors.
Kashmir files 🔥
@@surajrawat2527 👌👌👌
लोल अरे लव डे़ यहां उर्दू का क्या काम जब भारत की भाषा संस्कृत है
Remember the same Faiz Ahmed Faiz..who planned a military coup ( under leadership of general Akbar Khan ) in 1951 also known as the Rawalpindi conspiracy.. The main reason for the failed military coup was the ceasefire with india in 1951 first kashmir war. The coup plotters ( including faiz ) believed that the Muslim Pakistan should capture kashmir and there should be no peace with india..
Do your research and you will see it's the truth..
And today these so-called JNU students think of faiz as a great revolutionist.
Javed sir, good you could explain the actual meaning of the poem. Hope this puts to rest this unnecessary controversy.
Vivek agnihotri used this song against the very soft jihadis who sing it to glorify their hate
IIT Waalaa ho, chahe Javed akhtar ho, chaahe amir khan ho, chahe IAS ,chahe teacher khan sir ho, ho sabhi asmani kitab Ko maan_ne waale he sab jihaadi o ko bachaate huwe paye jayengge.
It is so disappointing to see Javed Akhtar does not know the meaning of Ahl e Safa. It is not ‘safai’, instead Safa is a place right next to Masjid e Haram, where poor people used to live and were taken care by Prophet PBUH. His limited knowledge is really disappointing, given he is fighting the case of this poem.
When you copy nd don't know meanings lol
Right.
There is a word to word translation then there is what the words refer to. What Akhtar said here doesn't change what the poet was referring to.
جب سب بت گرائیں جائیں گے
بس نام رہے گا اللہ کا
اور کفر ختم ہو جائے گا
اسلام کا بول بالا ہو گا
انشاءاللہ انشاءاللہ
"People will be condemned by the religion" is sufficient to understand the whole meaning of this peom because which religion. People will be condemned by the one idiology which is islam and according to islam state law is against the Qur'an. And they won't be settled until unless Sharia will be Nafiz on the state.
Arre malik! Point he is making is those clean people, yet condemned by religion(referring to law of the land(dictatorship)), will sit on the throne(masnad). How can you read this as only a pro-Islam poetry? Everything written in Urdu doesn't become a Islamic text.
He song itself is anti Islamic fundamentalists
@@prakash-ny7sj Hahahahaahahahahahaha funniest shit I've ever if you knew anything about his life and politics you'll know he was against an extremist dictator who used Islam not Islam itself its mind-boggling how Indians like something but cant comprehend that it came from Pakistani Muslim so they try to make it anti Islamic to feel better
Indians have little knowledge about poetry and literature.
To be honest this is not their poetry and they likely did not know the context..still there was no need to jump to such conclusions.
Yes true we don't any thing about Urdu literature likewise you don't know anything about Sanskrit and Hindi literature.
Oldest literature humara hi hai bhai.
@@akshatdhaka8042
LOL! How much Hindi literature do you know? And I don’t think you must be knowing any Sanskrit though I may be wrong.
Urdu poetry and literature is sublime and read and appreciated by Muslims and Hindus both.
@@sm1111 Yaar main ye Keh raha hoon ki jinke recorded texts duniya main pehle hain unka itna gross generalisation toh mat Karo. Baki tumhari har baat se agreed.
Hm dekhenge
THE KASHMIR FILES
Naam udega ola ka. Hum udayenge
Javed akhtar is himself anti hindu .. UP me Ka ba up me kashi ba aur Mathura baki ba
He is anti Muslim too … he is non believer of god … an atheist… just because God does not exist
Muslims are very good for making jalebi
Better explanation by .. RJ SAIMA .. really will win your heart
This poem was written against a dictator “Zia-ul-Haq” by one of the poet who turned secular.
No,faiz was good muslim.
How can someone defend such line. We all know what that means
This is why literature is important too... Along with science !!
HOW DARE U ??
SCIENCE IS FOR ADVANCEMENT OF HUMANITY !
LITERATURE IS REFLECTION OF HUMANITY ✴️ !!
SO MY FRIEND, LITERATURE IS WAY ABOVE SCIENCE. !!
Shukriya javed sahaib in jahilon ko ap ny samjhaya😂😂🤲🏻
javed akhtar is clearly moaning because he knows what it's written . It's written about gazwa e hind . Sirf nam rahega allah ka ??
wo to hy or rhe gaa. baqi faiz ahmad faiz ny pakistan ki govt k khilad baat ki thi. butt doesnt mean sanatan moorti god but it means sketch and idea also
@@umairahmad5184 "Wo toh h or rhega". Dekh yahi bakwaas phir dikkat deti h. Kisi ko farak nhi padta tu kis cult ka h. Poem mei Allah ka literal meaning god thha or context mei ek era of peace thha, yeh kyu nhi clear kr deta?? Poet bhi atheist thha aur jo uss poem ka mtlb samjha rha h voh bhi atheist. No offence but dono hi nhi maante Allah mei. Tum dono ek hi jaise ho.
Are you nuts...faiz s
Wrote this poetry for Zia ul haq (a dictator) was he a hindu? Was he referring Zia as Hindustan??? Where did this ghazwa hind came from in this couplets?😂😂 Whatsapp university 😂😂
@@muhibullahhamza1415 It's ghaza hind
Wo din ke jis ka wada hai
Jo lauh-e-azl mein likha hai
Aur ahl-e-hukam ke sar oopar
Jab bijli kad kad kadkegi,
(I hope you know about ahl e kitab)
Jab arz-e-khudaa ke kaabe se
Sab but uthwaaey jaayenge,
(but means murtia/statues )
Sab taaj uchaaley jaayenge.
Sab takht giraaey jayyenge.
Bas naam rahega Allah ka
Jo ghayib bhi hai hazir bhi
Jo manzar bhi hai nazir bhi
Utthega an-al-haq ka nara
Utthega an-al-haq ka nara
oh gawar
"Wo din k jiska wada he " is dooms day
Faiz narrating quran here when on Dooms day Allah will ask who is the truth now ? Who is god now ? And these dictators who have become god on his earth will be unable to speak.
As this day is promised by god .
How can you be this gawar , Urdu is Muslims language using Muslims references and narration , you Hindus playing victim cards everywhere try to act relevant,,stop embarrassing yourselves for god sake @@bapidey844
Scholar Javed, lol. Makes his own translations and easily manipulates young fools.
How conviniently he akipped Naam Rahega Allah ka! Classic Al-Taqqaiya
Nevr seen Javed Akhtar so flustered - poll khul gayi faiz ki
AND WHO WILL DECIDE WHO IS CLEAN AND WHO NOT...?
It depends on the individual. Whatever he or she believes in.
Sab dekhenge sab dekhenge
din k jiska pran hai liya
Nischit hai vi din aayega
Sab dekhenge sab dekhenge
Nischit hai sab dekhenge
Sab dekhenege sab dekhenge
Apne hi ghar se bhagaye gaye
Kuch kaate gaye kuch jalaye gaye
Hum dashko se ashkon me doobe rahe
Ek shan bhi na pukare gaye
Jo peeda humari dekhenege
To vo bhi thar thar kaapenge
💔
Muhammad Ali Jinnah once said, those Muslims who remain in India will always prove themselves..
Hahahahahaha they are criticising the protester for singing mighty faiz. Try singing yeh ghazi yeh teray pur israr bunday, jinhain tu nay bakhsha hai zaukh e khudai, do neem unki thokar say shera o darya, simmat kar pahar unki haibath say rai.
Beautifully explained by Javid Akhtar Sahab..
No this is not Real defenation.
Faiz said :
Jab Arz e khuda ke kabba se
Se but uthwaya jayenge
Means
When Idols from the kabba of God's earth will be removed.
This Hints towards a historical accident when prophet Muhammad ﷺ conquered Mecca then All mecca accept Islam.
Then He removed the idols from kabba and destroyed.
Okay
Remember the same Faiz Ahmed Faiz..who planned a military coup ( under leadership of general Akbar Khan ) in 1951 also known as the Rawalpindi conspiracy.. The main reason for the failed military coup was the ceasefire with india in 1951 first kashmir war. The coup plotters ( including faiz ) believed that the Muslim Pakistan should capture kashmir and there should be no peace with india..
Do your research and you will see it's the truth..
And today these so-called JNU students think of faiz as a great revolutionist.
Faiz was never a religious person. Iqbal bano sang this poem in India in 80s and no one criticized it.
Bas naam rhega Nallah ka
अबकी बार हम दिखाएँगे…
१००० वर्ष से हम भी देख रहे है…
अत्याचार, आतंकवाद, घिनौनापन…
हम भूले नहीं है … हमने माफ़ नहीं किया है …
That shows collective wisdom of Indians as nation..storm in the tea cup..can't understand straight verses unless a rare literate person has to clarify to them..what was the fuss about before that? Koi sharam koi haya?
This made dengerous to 🌎
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Javed ji woh Muslim h doesn't mean d8 u need to protect a Pakistani for dz
He is an atheist bro
Before criticising Javed Atleast u should have known he has an atheist .
@@wanderersview1110 So now a days atheist started to mingle in controversy..So u might be Budha... Atheist is not only word it vows karma
@@pjain9248 One doesn't become atheist by killing Humanity inside.Fools like u won't understand .
@R Bali Meri religion ne dusre religion Ko nich nh kehna sikhaya.. U continue...We are proud to be India's ancient religion..
Kashmiri files also same song naaa ,... The real meaning said by Vivek agnihotri
If vande mataram is anti Muslim then hum dekhenge is anti Hindu.
When ignorant Muslims shout that they will break idols , in India next to a temple, that means they are using this song to convey hatred.
Why is smashing idols considered correct by Faiz??
That is wrong.
hum dekhenge✊ koi kuch bhi kahe if you havent been to one of those protests in your 20s and 30s, you havent lived.
Mansad😂😂😂😂. Its masnad...Jin gadho ko Urdu ka alif Tak na ata ho ..aise jahil faiz saab ki poetry par sawal utha rahe h😂😂
GREAT REPLY AND TASHREEH BY JAVED SB👍👍👍👍👍
The Great Javed Akhtar Sab
Love you from Pakistan 🇵🇰
Narrow minded people but well explained by javed sab
Common sense is missing now a days in so called journalists.
Kashmir files 🔥
@@surajrawat2527 IPL 2022. KKR vs CSK.
Ya her jhotey khuda key khalaf hay chahe Butt ho ya king
I never thought this will be a debate. There is pure mis communication due to unawareness of urdu and its poetic style. The context of this poem was zia era when he ruled in 1980's decade.There is nothing wrong or anti hindu in this poem. Faiz was not against any religion or belief nor he hate even some said he was athiest.
Poem was written against military coup of 1979 not against india.
Like Tarek Fatah says, ye Urdu mei jhoot bolne waale log hai
Javed akhter explained comprehensively this is true meaning of this poem...
Remember the same Faiz Ahmed Faiz..who planned a military coup ( under leadership of general Akbar Khan ) in 1951 also known as the Rawalpindi conspiracy.. The main reason for the failed military coup was the ceasefire with india in 1951 first kashmir war. The coup plotters ( including faiz ) believed that the Muslim Pakistan should capture kashmir and there should be no peace with india..
Do your research and you will see it's the truth..
And today these so-called JNU students think of faiz as a great revolutionist.
Very good explanation, with perfect sense.
Kashmir files 🔥
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Hindi me poetry me ek baat hoti hai...""Chayawad""...isme poet double meaning me poetry likhta hai ....how we can 100%justify Faiz...
Javed sahab now we know the actual meaning...so dont try to fool us😡😡
Urdu poetry is full of tashbehat, which is symbolism. I've read poems of famous authors where the formation of pearls actually presents the journey of sadness and despair to hope. Or a horse ride symbolising the end of the world and after life.
In this poem "bhut" are the people/symbols that have placed them selves as gods In the world. Faiz was a communist and even now, on faiz day, you have communist students and journalists who join and make a small protest.
In pakistan, alot of anti-army politicians over time(including fatima jinah) have called army as "angels", depicting how they are untouchable etc. I just find it silly that u would rather trust your own silly translation rather than actually trusting the professionals and doing your research.
Oh pleaseewe no amount of manipulation can change the real meaning
This is not Pakistan this is India where idols are sacred, keeping India in the context, this song should be changed if it only against the government not Hindu faith.
very Brillient explanation by javed Sahab lots of Love from Pakistan
Raj kare gi khalke khuda jo ma bhi hun or tum bhi ho this line justifies that the poem was not anti hindu
People of urdu haven't given one useful thing to the world apart from social unrest & shayari. Only these people think that they are educated because they know urdu. I pity them all.
Angrez chalay giy apni najayz aulad chorh kar
@@aghakhani27 unme se ek ne mere comment pe reply kar diya.
@@AjaySharma-nx2qp dilll ko tasali dene ka ye khial Acha hain lowday
@Agha Khani reply se pata ragrha he ke chot sahi jagah lagi he. Mera kaam khatm, an tu Bak bak kar yaha pe. 🖕
Javed Akhtar sir a gem of man.
ask him to sing "vande matraam" he will answer you.
This ghazal of the great Urdu poet Faiz Ahmed Faiz. Sung by Iqbal bano who are Pakistanis. Stop Singing because you don't even know the meaning of this. But it's nice to hear name "Allah" from your mouth.
Am shocked to see the knowledge of Javed Akhtar about Islam and strange explanation.
La illahi illaha is not communal but bharat mata ki jai is communal # hinduphobia
wah Javed sahb wah.... great explanation,,,, Kya understanding hy aapki Faiz Ahmad Faiz ki... A Sindhi from Sindh, Pakistan, Love the Ghazal, Love Pak-Bharat.
Justification of cruelty
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Sirf naam rahega Allah ka.....this is Indian secularism in a nutshell. That is why they will lose every election and scratch their head and wonder what went wrong?
Sir Javed kindly explain it correctly , don't worry about your career .
Why You are misguiding the people and getting afraid from these people
It doesn't need more explanation , this poem is very clear as water.
Incomplete and some translation is done wrong by Javed sb.... That's unfortunate
Wow I can't believe I am actually correcting honorable Javed Sahib. My Urdu has improved lately I just realized it.. So here it goes
Arz-e-Khuda ka kaaba means House of Power like parliament, Presidency etc.
Ahl-e-Safa means (Akhwan-e-Safa) "Brethren of Purity" It was a radical open-minded secret society of Muslim Scholars and scientists in the 8th century who began to question the authenticity of Islam and other religions. So in a way modern people.
Mardood-e-Haram means untouchables, achoots (People who are look down upon) Political interpretation: the masses.
Masnad means The Office.
Bas naam rahe ga Allah ka jo ghaib bhi hay aor Hazir bhi: It means the name of God will become insignificant because he'll remain there with least disturbed by human sufferings. In the next line Faiz sahib eloquently used (Goonje ga An-Al-Haq ka naara) it means an era of human accomplishments will start. And religions will become null and void.
اناالحق کا مطلب ہے کہ میرے اندر اللّٰہ ہے
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نہیں ۔ اناالحق کا مطلب میں حق ہوں یا میں ہی سچ ہوں۔
Very good explanation .
Javed Akhtar is doing
Bhens k aagey beem banana.. 😆 😆 🤣
Very good expiation sir.....
Those who are in love with this poem may migrate to some other country.
Oh uncle agar ye line hoti jab sare ibadat gah giraye jayenge aur naam rahega bas raam ka tab aap defend kar lete uss poem ko???? Puri duniya ka dictionary dhund kar hi kaba ka kaba ke ilawa koi matlab nahi nikalta aur udhar se sare buut uthaye jane is kya matlab hai pata hai hume.... arz e khuda ke kabe me kaun sa insaan ka buut rahta hai ji...aur 'sare buut ' matlab sare.... koi zalim hai uska hota to zalimo ki buut uthaye jayenge ye mention karne ki alfaz kya poet ka nahi rahta... "saare buut matlab saare buut " koi special nahi ho sakta uncle ji... saare but hathake Allah ke buut nahi dalenge idhar to agar Allah = God hai unki v kuch forms ki buut hote hain kayin naam hai religion hota hai ..... itni v samajhdari nahi jo cheez Islamic republic of Pakistan me bahot sweet lagta hai wo Hindustan me nahi ho sakta hai
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Bas naam rahe ga Allah ka? Wa bhai wa? Iska matbal tal diya?
Obviously this was written against Zia ul Haq a dictator....
So here in Pakistan it was written accordingly and later it became the symbol of resistance
Truly a WhatsApp university graduate in 😂
Really don't we have other things to discuss that we are discussing this arje barje.
Economy slowdown
MMR IMR
Rupee fall and oil price hije
nothing we can discuss we can discuss what is irrelevant today modern world.
Right@bro
Kisi ko ghanta fark nhi pdta ...logo ko ye krne me Maza bahot aa rha h qki apparently inko lgta h yelog sensible responsible aware educated log h . Ghnta !
We can discuss anything. People are discussing everything. Don't pretend.
All items is your god
What we can do
Lol javaid akhtar didnt know the meaning of ahl e safa? Such an ignorant person from islamic history. Safa was a place at Prophet's time where poor students who were newly converted to islam and were thrown out of their families were resided. They sat there and read n understand Quran. Since they were poor and miserable, they were not allowed in Harum i.e. Kaaba by Quraish who were ruling the place then and were anti islamic. So the poet said that ahl e safa whom the chiefs of that time were taking as unworthy of Kaaba (harum) will in future sit on the throne (will take the governance in their hands). He meant to say the poor down trodden will rule the world and tyrant will be thrown out.
Alhumdulilah Proud to be a Pakistani Hume kse ko prof dene ki zarorat nhe ha Ka hum Muslim ha ya nhe
Yes bilkul nahi hai
Proof Dene ki
Ek ahmadiya ko proof Dene ki. Jarurat nahi
Abdus Salaam ko jisne first Nobel prize jeeta unko proof Dene ki jarurat nahi
Shia muslim jinko kaafir bolke masjid mai blast kiya aur sipahe sahiba ne rally nikali unko proof Dene Ki jarurat nahi.
Hum kia chahte hen Azadi,
Free Kashmir, free Kashmir......
Hum dekhege, lazim he hum b dekhege hum dekhege
Bs nam rahega Allah ka, sb but uthae jaege
Goal of Hinduism is Higher MORALS .
Shri Ram Kills Ravan who Kidnap sita. Shri Krishna fights for saving Justice and Good from Evil of Kans / Duryodhan .........
While Goal of Islam is ?
Then sree ram happily watches sita taking agni pariksha just because people said she wasn't pure. What morals are you talking about?
aryan batra you need to understand Secret Religious meaning of Sita Agni Pariksha . Your HALF-Knowledge 😆😆
He is using Taqiyya
indian media ko pata kuch hota ni hai... poem samjh atee ni hai mgr shor machane lag jate hain...
It's good that you are clarification but then again I can't help but think... Ab in jahilo ko kya samjhana Jo har cheez mein deen dharam dekh te hai
Jaise vande mataram me
@@SOMESH54321 exactly!
Javed says he is atheist and yet he is defending a problematic aspect of islam. Even if the poem is figurative, it is based on a belief held by muslims and an actual event.
Its not
Nothing is anti-hindu in it.
Hum dekhenge jab kaba mai but rakhwaye jayenge hum dekhenge..
Agar kisi ko samjh nahi aaya to Manoj muntashir ki video dekho IS PA unhone na bhi bhot acha samjhaya ha
Look this poor disappointed face who wanted a masala news ... But Javed Saab disappointed him gracefully ♥️
Now after Kashmir files release it isn't anti hindu
Ab password mujhe pata chal gaya , ab dekho mein kya karta hun😂😂😂😂
To be honest with u all in this poetry scenarios are so perfectly defined regarding general situation of our society and what will happen in future .. Most specifically when Islam will spread to all over the world and before that there will be a war .
Just explain the "sab but uthwaye jayenge and bas nam rahega Allah ka "
I too used to listen to this song with reverence but not anymore when I studied the words. After all how is that being a communist, Faiz mentioned Allah. Now we all know all communists show love for Islam and hate for Hindus.
Sadat Hassan Manto was a true Communist. Ms Qurtulain Haider was a true Communist they had an equal eye.
Aage ki sun . An ul haq ka meaning main hi khuda hun . Chutiye