Ryan Davis on LeBron James vs Michael Jordan GOAT Debate
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Bro that guy the Jordan fan is a clown, u see how mad he was, when the facts was thrown on his face
LeBron fans argue with logic while Jordan fans argue with emotions
"And it's not even close" is str8 Gospel 👑🐐 great debate Ryan 🤝🏾🥂
At 8:50 mark, “add Lebron to the Nuggets… Host: “Ok”😂😂😂😂😂 priceless
Ryan keeps giving these Jordan stans facts, yet they argue on subjective nonsense and what they "feel".
If Kobe was killing some of these dude's they saying would kill MJ, how did Kobe do against those same players they say would cook MJ😮
lebron had waaay better teammates than MJ! Make goggle your friend. lebron had more Hof, and all-star teammates than MJ ever thought of having. MJ drug roleplayers, and non-scorers to 6 Chips.lebron has played with A.D.& D-Wade. lebron should've won 8 rings with his roaster! 😂.
@user-xm5du8hu1q Look Bro. When you compare masterclass paintings, you compare a Rembrandt with a Picasso. You don't compare the guy who made a copy of a Rembrandt with a Picasso. Kobe, at his best, was a copy of MJ - a chip off the old block. That's good, but he's always ever been a "Chip". Don't get carried away by the revisionist history cause he perished too soon and tragically.
@user-xm5du8hu1q Lmao! You Jordan stans are delusional and can't be helped. You guys are lost causes. Yall like a boxer who is way past his prime, but he is still trying to make a sad comeback.
You can tell that dude don’t watch ..he said Paul gasol wasn’t good ..then Tried to bring wilt into the arguement to help mjs case like ..wtf ..certain ppl shouldn’t be able to talk sport 😂😂😂
and whats wrong with Wilt... or Kareem oh right because then native of longevity and the GOAT because of most points goes out of the window... since few people put Kareem over MJ due to longevity argument even though he had most points ....
Well Gasol was good but when he played with Kobe he was taught a lot of things about the game from Kobe meaning Kobe made his players better, Gasol became great and a Hall of Fame’er because of Kobe.
Wilt Probably really is closer to MJ than people realize besides Kobe, Wilt set so many records he is the strongest Center player in history he man handled guys he made the fadeaway and now everyone uses it, Wilt has the 2nd highest scoring average behind MJ and that’s because he stopped scoring on his own to help in other areas. After he retired he beat a prime Magic in a UCLA pickup game prime Wilt and Prime MJ also like I said Kobe is in that conversation
You young dudes got to learn the history man it’s a lot of players that was great and this generation learned from them
Pau Gasol scored an average of 17 points while playing as the second option for the Lakers. I wouldn't say that's particularly impressive. He was adequate, at best.
The white dude is the typical Jorbum fan.
Bro stop it, "Jorbum"???
@moorishamexemal-morocco4204 it's OK when yall do it? But it's a problem when we do it lol jordasion
Big facts
And the others are Lebron fanboys
You lost all credibility by calling Jordan a bum
Ryan Davis is telling the truth but the truth is not doesn't matter anymore it's what's perceived nowadays
The media created a narrative and when I was coming up you never heard players from yesteryears trash talked only in this Lebron era so thanks to Stephan A and Skip for this mess and Lebron James because he told everyone I should be your number 1 and then took the post down.🤨
Truth you say? 4/10 if you count that bubble ring 2 losses is a sweep. 2 a gentleman’s sweep 1 of em is an old core players of Spurs.
First 2 chips he won is with top players at the time DURING their primes. He RAN to D Wade and Pat for Help.
Then choke in the Finals series. Not A GAME but for a SERIES (Finals Series) That’s your goat? That’s a fact bruh, that happened.
That’s the standard to look up to now?
Going On Another Team every time shit hits the fan ain’t gonna be
The Greatest Of All Time.
But that’s only my opinion.
Jordan is Mythical God of Basketball in Media because that's the decade of their lives MJ Didn't without Pippen similar player like LeBron James now only that people have is Jordan never loss in the Finals 6 appearance s 6 Finals MVPS and 6 championships the devil's number right and the mascot on the Team Bull 🐂 look at the horns Fuck Jordan
"Yall think some shit that never happens is supposed to happen to lebron james" ...... BARS! thats a hell of a take
It's so true. Take Durant for example. Dude has been in a Big 3 on four different teams. And only won a ring when he joined a team that was already a champion without him. LeBron dragged anyone he played with to the Finals and won Finals MVP with three different teams.
I agree with Ryan 100%.
Fair conversation.... RD absolutely demolished this debate... i mean flawless victory... this wasn't fair this was an absolute destruction
Exactly! “Were you talking about Kareem being the best player when he had the most points”?! No. Are Lebron fans saying Kareem is #2 now? No. Karl Malone #3 scorer, do they got him as #3 or even on their top 10? No. No consistency.
Kareem played a lot weaker era
He wasn't a good play maker
He literally won 4 of his rings because of Magic
He doesn't have the longevity of lebron, Kareem was basically over in his 18th year
Lebron is still playing and already has 40k 11k 11k
And kareem literally had Oscar in his 2nd year
Use your brain before using your mouth
Kareem wasn’t big as Lebron and neither was the lead..
You do know the record wasn’t 38k when Kareem broke it, that could be another reason why nobody cared..
But, Jordan got a plaque for 30k and he wasn’t even the first player to reach 30k
Your point is invalid, sir lol
That dallas team is severely underrated
Thank u they had the hardest path and won against what people themed the superteam they were a fucking problem
@marvyae23 alot of people don't really watch basketball or understand it so they just say shit off of feelings
But at the end of the day Miami was still the favorite and a super team
@@suntansuperman26 which makes dallas even more impressive
@@marvyae23 Yea the win was impressive. I remember watching it and was glad they won seeing how Wade and LeBron mocked Dirk for being sick
We dnt judge nba players on all time stats we judge basketball players on yr to yr awards and per game stats it’s non debatable
The white guy riding Jordan is crazyyyy
Mj fans only speak on opinions not facts. Ryan davis spitting nothing but facts.
Jordan is the goat 🐐 deal with it
@@puncho8799keep crying and telling yourself that. If you felt that way you wouldn't had to comment to me
@@christophergonzales2627 You’re the one that’s crying. I’m speaking the truth and you just don’t wanna hear it. But you will get over it✌🏽🤣
@@puncho8799 you keep crying to my post. Keep commenting and crying
@@christophergonzales2627 You keep crying and responding to me I wonder why 🤣
When Ryan Davis made that "Kevin Durant Defense wins Championships" diss video. He gave the reason why MJ is the GOAT over Lebron. He seems too intelligent not to know this.
Like Ad bosh and love wasn’t perinatal Allstars wtf 😂😂😂😂
What are we talking about tho before or after they played with Lebron? Because it’s a huge difference gang 🤷♂️
@@Cornell_Alvarez99 they were Allstars before and while playing with James it’s non debatable
@@kylonp7311 don’t give me that bullshit because if Kevin love was good then why’d he average 8 points in the 2016 finals Hmm? Kevin love was average at best when he was in Cleveland. Love me some Chris Bosh but he wasn’t built for the heat culture like he was supposed to be….so that ain’t Lebrons fault. I’m tired of niggas trying to make cases for Kevin Love and Chris Bosh, they were good players before they got to Lebron while puttin up good stats on horrible teams. Ad on the other hand….I gotta higher chance of busting a nut on Jeanie buss Face before this nigga plays a full seasons worth of basketball 💀… these niggas were Allstar players props to them but if they were so good then why didn’t we get the same results pre Lebron hmm? Cmon man stop it! I don’t even like Lebron James like that but Stevie wonder can see that shit 💀
@@kylonp7311The numbers were worse when they played with Bron. Love avg less points in the finals than Jr smith. Is smith an allstar. Other than Ad, his SUPERSTAR teammates, were in their declining years. Jordans Superstars were in their prime.
@@jezzerdee dude kyrie love bosh wade ad we’re all prime when they joined lebum scam with the excuses no player is on the decline at age 25 26 27 that’s the prime of there career no how about everyone who plays with lebum numbers go dwn lebum makes everyone spot up shooters like love bosh and kyrie for example before love and bosh played with lebum they avg over 20ppg while playing with lebum they avg under 20ppg deal wit it goofy😂😂😂😂
Dis dude is crazy to say Lebron wit da heat wasn’t good enough 😂
Casual take Ryan Davis
Lesteroid is ranked between 10 and 15 at best. Based solely on his achievements, there is a case to be made for placing him in the top 3. However, if his winning record and skill set are taken into consideration, he falls somewhere between 10 and 15.
Allen Iverson showed us who mike was.. as he got up off the ground he knew his time was up.
Name the players jordan guarded that was better then the people bron has had to go against
That’s the key phrase - LBJ is the best to ever touch a basketball and it’s not even close. True facts. No one can do what he does on the court.
Lebum also had a kyrie avg in 28 and getting 40 points in that 3-1 comback something mj didn’t have
Draymond getting suspended also helped lmao
lebron get momentum from kyrie on that comeback
Keep crying
But here’s the crazy part about that series. People look at 73 wins and Cavs being down 3-1 and think damn the Warriors was putting it on them and Jordan himself never faced that. But the funny part is I don’t think Jordan would even be down 3-1 to that team. That Warriors team didn’t even perform better than the ‘93 Suns. 2016 Warriors had 3 players averaging 15+ ppg, 1993 Suns had 4 players doing that. Curry the leading scorer only averaged 22 ppg, Thompson 19 ppg and Green 16 ppg that’s 57 points between their top scorers. On the other hand Barkley had 27 ppg, KJ and Majerle both had 17 ppg and Dumas 15 ppg, that’s 76 points between their top scorers and Jordan averaged 41 ppg on them setting a record that’s still standing mind you
Bron also lead both team n all 5 major categories plus back to back 40 piece but yes kyrie
It's not easier to score. Players' skills today make it look easier.
No. It’s the rules that make it easier. The fact they dont call carries and travels say so. Almost every crossover today would be a turnover before Allen Iverson. Pretty much the Globe trotter were doing everything happening today 40 years ago.
Players today legit travel like mad and doesn’t get called for it. They have a lot of freedom that past players didn’t have, that’s it
By the way tell Leflop the Joker said hi 🤣🤣🤣
Tell jordasion bird said hi😂😂😂
@@jamesmatushin5457 he did he said hi Larry can you hold on to my 6 rings 😂😂😂
@@jamesmatushin5457 and then LeBron said Michael can I borrow 2 rings 🤣🤣🤣
@@jamesmatushin5457 just freindly debate my Freind ✌🏽and ❤️
Hmm....Reading the comments in this thread.....folks really feel Jordan is better than Lebron who is:
Number 1 all time in scoring {40,000 points and counting)
Number 1 all time in playoff scoring and counting
Most consecutive games scoring 10 points per game (By a lot)
Most consecutive seasons averaging 25 points per game
Most all star votes all time (by tens of millions)
Most top 5 MVP voting season (all time)
4th all time in regular season assists
Most playoff assists
Most NBA Player of weeks awards (not close)
Most NBA Player of months awards (not close)
Most All NBA Seasons
Took three (3) different teams to the Finals and won Finals MVP (different coaches, sidekicks, benches, cities, owners, management - not easy)
When someone says THE BLOCK what play do you think of
When someone says CHASE DOWN BLOCK what play do you think of
Has the most YOUNGEST TO....NBA records
and now
Is getting the most OLDEST TO....NBA records
Is the youngest player to every 1,000 scoring mark in NBA history ...1000,2000, 3000, 4000 ....38,0000
and is now the Oldest and Youngest to 39,000....40,000 etc....
Most playoffs series won all time
Real close to having the most wins all time
And might end up playing the most seasons, minutes, games played all time
All that....AND MORE......and the comments in this and other threads...think its crazy that LBJ is better than Jordan.
Our kids kids kids....wouldn't understand these hot takes.....we were all witnesses!
Nice longevity stats 🤣 Jordan has game to game dominance and achievements that really matter and he has a full Hall of Fame career over LeBron 🐐💯👌🏽
I mean Rodman is considered the best rebounder yet isn’t even top 20 on the all time rebound list. Magic is considered the best pg yet isn’t the all time assist leader he isn’t even top 5. Stats never was the indicator for who is greater but LeBron fans use it because they think it helps their argument. LeBron can’t beat Jordan in what made Jordan the GOAT so now you guys have to use a different approach. The argument has always been Jordan accomplished more in less time which is still true with LeBron being in year 21
Ryan articulated his points well, but he was off on several things. The Peja point was odd. He was nowhere near his prime when he was on the Mavs. He averaged 0.5 ppg in the finals and barely played that series. Why bring up his Sacramento stats from years earlier? Bottom line is, yes the Mavs were the better and more complete team, but Lebron severely underperformed. He was outscored by Bosh and Wade in that series. They could have won if he played to his standards.
5 mins into the video i knew this ryan dude didnt know what he was talkin bout
When he brought up FG% I'm pretty sure everyone tuned him out.
because he was bringing up facts?
Everything he said was a fact
Ryan has done his homework
Unintelligent Mj fanboys
If you wanna support jordan, put logical point against logical points
Not just "HOW CAN YOU"
Always love when they say Pippen saved MJ.. WTF?! Pippen was drafted only 3 years later.. and he sucked his first 4 years. DWade, AD, Kyree etc all owe LeBron their life for dragging them to championship..
U see how they try to water down the mavs Tyson Chandler just rebounded n played defense lol like dude didnt win dpoy
Y’all wanna believe a comic with no neck yea ok 😂
Dude with the beard just proves mj fans dont know shit about basketball
6-0 > 4-6 is more impressive
Naw quitting twice is despicable
Devin Booker would give MJ buckets? TF?
He would, every time. Mitch Richmond always gave Mike buckets. Allen Houston as well.
Mj would do the same in return and did
@Ace-fe8gc Allen Houston barely did anything. Where did his career go? How many MVPs? How many championships run?? Shut up
@@Ace-fe8gcstop the cap I'm from Chicago and watched ever bulls games starting in 89 And Devin Booker isn't strong enough or quick enough to give Jordan problems or bucket's. Jordan was an elite defender lead the league in steals 3 yrs in a row. Jordan played against Mitch Richmond and was 13-4 all time, yes he gave MJ buckets but he never dominated MJ and MJ dominated the whole team and still had more points than Mitch did after every game and beat Mitch more times. Allan Houston never dominated MJ when they played and yes everyone gets scored on sometimes but even at 33 34 MJ was still elite defender and y'all bringing up players who were 10 yrs younger with more youth and energy to spare. You understand the physical abuse MJ went through in his early years in the league from multiple teams especially the pistons and still averaged 30+. Allan Houston was 5-16 vs Jordan in his career so where was the buckets he was giving mj. Do your research before you hand pick player's you think gave MJ problems.
Yall slow
If the players are today I saw elite why do they have to go run to go team up in order to win a championship? If they’re so much better then you should be able to do it through the draft but they’re not. That’s why they have to run and go play with each other in order to win a championship, that’s for your elite players. Your so-called kills. They have to team up in order to win a championship.
Everyone tries to crucify kd but brons move was just as weak. Him wade and bosh were the top 3 free agents that year and teaming up with them moved his best competition out of his way basically and he still failed to do what he said he would in miami.
Mj control the game lbj control who's coming who's go out le gm😂
Let’s make a list of guys who are starters today. Guys who average double digit points per game.
I’ll start:
Austin Reeves 😂
Your team goes to finals because those people made their path to greatness... became maybe the best player that year because they are together. that makes the Bulls unstoppable. MJ made his teammate great when he is in Bulls. MJ the GOAT.
what did he do in the 80s
@@andreasmakoben2455win a lot of individual awards
And a lot of losing, so the awards are not that impressive
@@andreasmakoben2455That’s like saying LeBron’s first 2 MVPs aren’t impressive because he didn’t win. Funny enough Jordan spent 5 years in the 80’s and won more accolades than LeBron who spent 6 years in the 00’s
It’s about who dominated their era the best and it’s Jordan hands down 🐐💯👌🏽
Stats don’t tell the whole story
MJ fans dont either... go figure
Sir MJ is recognized internationally the media never had to lie about MJ to build him up, MJ never had to pay people to say he was the Goat he let his game speak for its self and MJ also made it clear that his first 7 yrs not getting to the finals and loosing is what drove him to win.
You obviously don’t watch Lebron standing. Around on the floor no defense took him 21 yrs to get a better 3 ball and still has a broken jumper look the man is a great player but it’s levels to this stuff the rules change so this generation could score easily it’s a difference you don’t have a center clogging the paint plus the NBA let’s you travel the ball 🤣🤣 you must not pay attention to the game
Yes you got crazy fans with all players but and I admit there are some decent Bron fans I can talk to that actually make sense as to why they feel Bron is the best now I don’t agree with it but I can talk to them and we disagree and move on but to the other ones that are crazy and get personal nope they don’t know Basketball they only watch Bron
Ryan given facts other buddy speaking with emotion
Are you fucking kidding me the boy who is Jerry report is the people today they change the rules to make it easier to score you
This way u cant argue wit mj fans 🤣🤣🤣
Grant hill was giving mj buckets to
This guy doesn’t know a lick about high level sports or athletes man. Unreal.
These other players named dont get the formula if MJ comes to the league today or in the mid 90s.
Mike 7days a week
How the F do people put Lebron past Kobe?
jorbum fans always up in their feelings when hearing facts about bron
Honestly, MJ is the GOAT and lj is as good as done, there's nothing he can do to surpass MJ, he is done. Longevity and padded stats is good, but not great to take the seat from the real GOAT.
real goat only one with a select people 😂how are you the greatest when u always had a side kick
That’s his fault he jumped from team to team
Wade said interview with Shannon, JJ barea killer then
Lebron knew the plays due to him playing for a lot of teams.
Because you never saw Michael Jordan go on the go play with magic you never saw Isaiah Thomas go on the go play with Julius Erving or Larry Bird these today players can’t play that’s why they have to team up in order to win a championship
Michael Jordan dominated the league , lebron dominated a conference , and had dynasty’s built on his watch .
2011 Finals is the funniest part of this video. Ryan Davis trying to convince these guys that Lebron is the GOAT for MAKING it to the finals but then losing to Dallas, after Lebron got outscored by Jason Terry. And then he spends a bunch of time talking up Peja Stojakovic who in that series averaged 0.5 pts, 0.8 reb and 0.0 assists. Yeah Dallas was clearly stacked and Miami was outmatched but Lebron is the GOAT for even getting them to the Finals
This is how stupid our youth have become...
Lakers down 2-0 to the Nuggets with the "GOAT" crying about replays brought me here.
Why didn’t mj drag the bulls to the finals before jerry built a team for him?! Mj wanted to win but he alone wasn’t enough, Lebron never had someone build him a team, he left to go to Miami he came back when Cleveland drafted top prospect not free agents but drafted players to trade and get love. Then came to LA with a bum ass young team and got AD and won
Ryan full of it. I hate that these dudes don’t have better points. Celtics Big 3 won it first time oh and against the Pau and Kobe.
Nobody with 6Ls is better than jordan
Rayn Davis made a comment talking about teams coming together and needing time but the Celtics come together and they win the 07-08 championship so once people like him that like LeBron love taking things out of context to support LeBron
Caron Butler was the Mavs 2nd best player. How much did he play in the finals? He didn’t he got injured early in the season. Let’s talk about LeBron James has averaged 17.8 ,7.2, 6.8 assists in 6 games against the Mavs. Scoring a finals low of 7 points in game 4. Ya know who came to a team and won the 1st year, KD. Guess who he swept from this stats Davis read off, Lebron James.
Miami was not even supposed to be in the Finals in 2011, Boston was. Only reason Miami made it is because LeBron went OFF that series. Meanwhile Dallas SWEPT the 2time defending Lakers, gentleman SWEPT OKC (who made the Finals the NEXT year). I still think Miami should have won, if LeBron played like he did vs the Celtics and Bulls
Jordan is the greatest
Lebron is the Best
Bron is behind Kobe in the GOAT debate.
LeBron also has the most turnovers, most shots taken and about to have the most shots missed plus even though he has the most points in history, Jordan still owns the highest PPG in history. Jordan just did more in less time.
He actually scored more points than Jordan with less shots
@@KingBossDawg2more 3s made too and attempted
These young cats don't know shit
Havlicek was 8-0 in the finals and nobody says he's the GOAT, the 6-0 finals record doesn't mean you can drag subpar players deep into the playoffs or the finals. If Hue Hollins didn't call that phantom foul on Pippen, the Bulls would've gone to the final WITHOUT Jordan band possibly won!!
Maybe so, but if they weren't robbed by that call, that would have put them in the ECF, where they'd need to also win to make the Finals. They didn't almost make the Finals, just the ECF.
I want to comes down to his team needs him in the clutch he has failed, failed failed and you saw it last night against Denver or he can go out one through five. He could not go on Jokić at all. Three times he was on Jokić and he got scored on.
Michael Jordan is objectively better than LBJ… The guys arguing for MJ don’t know enough
Subjectively…
He said whos jordan plays againts tha white guy and whos beating lebron way back 2011 and swept to nuggets and jokic
Say what you want but as time moved on, the people jordan was beating had to retire before Bron could win… and Bron lost more than he won after those retirements.
If MJ was playing with someone who played hoops on his level, he would just shift into another gear and will his team to play better. Stop it, Ryan. LeBron isn't better than MJ.
Your LeBron James is blaming his teammates if he loses a playoff series but not Jordan....
Subjective in terms of individual stats.. he is better. Jordan is better in feelings and emotions
Really! MVP Lebron, Champion DWade and Franchise Player Chris Bosh is not enough to win a championship really???!!!! you had to go to Joel Anthony to say that Miami was not a better team that Dallas?? The Miami Heat were the heavy favorites Man.. You can't just admit Lebron had a meltdown in that series.. My God
LeBron James played harder competition
Lebron never played on a dynasty and only has 4 rings compared to kobe and Jordan who actually had dynasties
The Celtics came together and won asap
LeBron has great longevity stats, but Jordan has a full Hall of Fame career over LeBron 🐐💯👌🏽
My argument for this debate is the same I had with Kobe and LeBron. It took awhile for LeBron to become better than Kobe and it took awhile for me to say that he is, but I’m fine with the fact the LeBron is better than Kobe. And LeBron is finally better than michael Jordan. It’s okay. People, especially the old heads saw Jordan score and play basketball like something they never seen before and they can’t help but keep mj up there forever. It’s okay guys. LeBron is better than Jordan. MJ can be second GOAT of all time. Ain’t nothing wrong with that tbvh. And Kobe can be third
Here's a version of how this has now swung around among some Jordan influencers (UA-camr Jonny Arnett, for example). The original fall back was that maybe LeBron was the better/overall more impactful player, but Jordan had the better career. You had the infamous Pippen comment that LeBron may be the best all around player (which he was intimidated into taking back and talking out of both sides of his mouth), and even Skip Bayless (!) saying LeBron was the best all-around player he'd ever seen. This was what Oscar Robertson meant in 2010, when he said 'LeBron was much better than Jordan' (before LeBron had any rings, but two consecutive MVPs, a scoring title, and a Finals appearance).
Now Jonny Arnett has switched to saying LeBron actually has the greater (as in, GREATEST) career (or that we can see he'll end up with that), but that Jordan was a better player. Slowly, people are turning to agree that LeBron's career is the greatest (and that is what GOAT means, after all). It takes different things for various people to come to this conclusion, but his old Celtics rivals Kevin Garnett and even Paul Pierce gave it up after LeBron passed Kareem. David Robinson said that when LeBron passes Kareem, he'll run out of excuses to pick Jordan over him. Shaq implied the same thing.
This white bearded guy was roasted by facts of ryan davis
Just think Mj did all that in 15 yrs Lj still barely getting it done with all them stack teams
This is why Kobe is not considered the greatest.. whenever you bring up the Mavs swept the defending champion lakers, people try to ignore it and say Lebron should’ve won 😂😂😂😂
Mj fan don’t want to hear the truth!! Smh
Jordan was before his time he won one chip an was named the best player in basketball thats was wild but we cant say an prove why Bron aint better MJ fans can give context in there argument but Bron fans cant
Prime MJ and Prime Wilt have 2 of the greatest once in a lifetime type of status, you guys can’t be watching the same Basketball man this guy Lebron it’s time to retire.
Ryan is telling the truth. It’s just not politically correct to ever say MJ isn’t the goat
MJ is my fav but Bron is the Goat.
Imagine choking on jordan that hard.
He never won without pippen and he's never beat larry bird even once. Guys like curry kyrie luka would be giving jordan the work. Lebron would drive down the lane and bully him.
Most of the NBA players chose Jordan as the GOAT... That says a lot...
U said it, Most!! Not all.
Cause lebrone had the ball in his hands 90 percent most the time
White guy needs to be educated
Ryan can argue a great point for Bron, however, people just give the wrong rebuttal to his points. He brought up the Mavs being better that year, NO. Bron played like trash , therefore the Mavs took advantage. He didn’t talk about Bron getting outplayed by Jason Terry, yes that happened. Every fourth quarter they played that series, Bron got outscored by Dirk… yes , that happened as well… look that up too. GOATS don’t play like that when it matters most, I’m sorry, not sorry! Bron IS NOT the GOAT. MJ is the undeniable GOAT, and it’s not even close!
Bron cant b d best after all those superteams he created & only won 3. Bron has done way less with more. Ryan acting like all these players now isnt putting up histerical numbers while Bron is in the league
First of all the cavs shouldnt have been down 3-1 in the first place. Their big 3 was better than golden states big 3. All golden state had was shooting, if you ran steph off the line the series was over, klay and draymond are not beating you and this was scrawny steph who was not finishing at the rim how he used to. They point out Mikes negatives to prop up bron but if you talk about bron's failures its hating smh. Every narrative they try its witch hunt "he's pass first" yet after 21 seasons he still isnt first in assist and has had the best players of any nba star ever. Mike only took a couple more shots a game than bron. You have to tell both sides, the finals losses, first in turnovers and missed field goals, the lack of defense it all plays into your legacy no job that hires you ignores the bad because of the good its a libra scale.