Idt he was necessarily saying that he couldn’t be the #1 in the finals. I think he was implying those championships he was actually able to defer to them comfortably when needed.
They fail to mention that along with double digit rebounds, damn near 10 assists, multiple blocks and steals lmaoo. They really can’t imagine one player being able to do so much on the court, so they try their best to diminish it
I was wondering where all the McCants animosity toward lebron comes from so i did some research LeBron abd McCants faced each other 7 times LeBron is 6-1 averaging 38ppg to McCants 7ppg so he probably still having dreams about LBJ cooking his ass.
Lebron has really spoiled expectations of what people think stars should be doing. Dude went to 8 straight finals and played as the vegas underdog team in most of them.
@@Uzo_oo It means his teams shouldn't have been there. Bit somehow he was good enough to get subpar teams there. Stop hating, and look at logics and facts.
@@mostmost1 you dont have to guess. It's simple math. There are 450 players. 10% of that is 45. Half of that(5%) is 23 players. Lebron basically said he's a top 25 player. It aint even worth debating to be honest.
Of course he's still better than 95% of the league. But he's also playing in fewer games which indicates to me that father time has caught up. Both can be true people. And to point it out isn't hating. We just stating facts.
Mathematically There are 450 players in the NBA. To take in consideration of the top 5% of NBA players we are considering 22.5 (23) players in the NBA. By virtue that in his 20th season Lebron James is on All-NBA Third Team all NBA he is one of the top 15 players in all of the NBA. Taking in consideration of the playoffs, there were 4 teams left. Each team has 5 starters which again would mean 20 players. Every team has a top two players at least makes the current players to 4 or 8 best players in the playoffs. Without question Lebron is in that top tier calibrated player in 2023 playoff.
This conversation doesn't make sense, LeBron has waaaay better numbers in crunch time than Wade and Kyrie put together. I love Gil but he's off on this one.
It’s amazing how they act like he’s not clutch when ALL his clutch numbers are tops all time. They just don’t like the fact that his ego allows him to play the lead or take a backseat depending on the situation
I think it’s because when Gil was in the league at his height Bron was 2003-2010 in Cavs… Bron has evolved so much and 2018 Bron took a team to the finals by himself hitting multiple clutch game winners
Dawg just because somebody got a different opinion don't make you a hater y'all lebron fans be acting gay as hell on god I see what kwame brown was talking about now 😂😂😂
@@quentinjonesjr7130bruh there's having a different opinion and then there's just saying retarded shit which is what most niggas do. Dont be knowing jackshit about basketball and think cause they watched a bunch of Kobe and Mike highlights y'all know how players supposed to play. Most of y'all are haters, period. The fact you mentioned Kwame Browns bust ass proves it
The way folks sleep on Bron's ability and mentality is crazy lol. McCants must have forgot all of those big games Bron had against Boston, Detroit, Toronto, GS, and more. Over there talking about some, "He needs that Jimmy Butler confidence" lol smh.
Mccants could use that jimmy confidence too, his career wouldve been much better. Crazy how this guy talks as if hes been there and done that. Out of everyone in the room he should have the most respect, cause he know the grind aint easy, cause if it was he would actually be in position to talk like gil and the others
LOL Like Lebron led teams that won four championships and he was the best player on all of them and made the majority of the biggest plays but yes he needs to think like a guy who isn't half as accomplished as him.
It’s absolutely wild that this conversation happened without anyone interjecting with actual facts. Lebron is the most clutch playoff performer in history, according to actual numbers. One of the guys brings up two game 6’s in the finals without mentioning that Lebron also had 41 in the same game. This was complete revisionist history, and it wasn’t hard to notice the hate.
We watched too many shying away from the moment and being saved… Lebron isn’t a closer even if he’s better than guys that are , idk why y’all fight that so much 😂jumper aint reliable in the clutch and free throw liability… game 4 closing moments showed that which we seen too many times…y’all love the numbers but liars figure and figures lie!
@@khalidmoore8341 I could agree that he doesn’t look to close at times but to say he’s never closed a game or hit game winners is just stupid lol it doesn’t matter if he closes all the time if the team wins the game who cares lol the objective is to win the game lol he’s still the 2nd greatest player to ever touch a basketball whether you think he can close or not 😂😂😂
You’re a SHEEP! Clutch statistics count uncontested break away dunks and layups as being “clutch”. The media and analysts and nba stat guys changed the definition of clutch so that anybody can be “clutch”. When you think of clutch it’s very simple….. who hits the big game winning and game tying shots when it matters the absolute most??? You can’t miss these shots and be called “clutch” just because you score dunks and layups in the last 5 minutes of regulation……
@@khalidmoore8341 I love LeBron but think about the biggest moments from players in playoff and finals history….. LeBrons biggest moments are all blocks while he’s had teammates hit some of the biggest shots in NBA history. Bron isn’t clutch at all in my opinion and most dudes aren’t. The most clutch players in the league are Dame and Kawhi right now…. Literally no one else is proven.
Bron as the #2 is what he was in the bubble, the point guard that was setting up the rest of the team and they won the chip. Bron just needs a better player to become the #2 to.
If you switch harden with bron Philly going to the chip and winning it. Bet anything! Lol the nuggets just to good and the lakers got sorry role players. Bron still top 3 player in the league Thas how you know.
@@BigDilf3 no u stop Bron with Embid in the pick and roll is crazy and a chip with that defense that they have and them shooters with Maxey you tripping
What don't act like lebrick hasn't been carried do you know LBJ had a total of seven active all stars to win those rings MJ won six rings with one active all star Scottie pipen how can you be NBA all time leading scorer with one scoring titles MJ has ten nobody has that but him plus he average more points per game than anybody no way I can put lebrick next to that type of greatness
They forgetting Bron did all what they saying the last two years with the heat and when Kyrie left Cavs. The scariest thing is Bron NEVER fully tapped into his selfish 1v1 type player he was always looking to win. Which is the only thing I don’t like about him and what makes his potential scary
Back to Playoffs 2018 Lebron was clutch during this exercise. Don't forget that he made one of the most impressive playoffs performance, being clutch in each round back to 2018.
lebron on offense could still be #1 option but he needs elite defenders around him who can consistently give 15-20 a game. Dlo is literally the difference in the series, if he performed at his expected level lakers might have still lost the series but it would have gone from sweep to 6 maybe 7 game series.
When they played Memphis in the regular season and he just bounced the ball under his own rim and then ran full court and put a posterized dunk on JJJ... I was like how is this man 38 🤯
Also. Just because you wanna shoot the last shot and ain’t scared dont make you clutch or even good. Lebron has a rly high if not highest percentage of last second go ahead and game winning shots regular and playoffs. Ppl just hate. Simple. Cuz he don’t do it pretty and all cute.
But people remember Jordan more than Stockton. People do not really seem to care about records. Wilt also holds a lot of records, and he seems to not get talked about as much either.
@Ronniem90 That's cause most humans are EASILY programmed. A player can only control THEIR output,jordan gets way too much credit for the bulls organization success. The numbers show bron did MORE for his teams than mj did for his
@@RonnieM90 Wilt doesn't get talked about as much "anymore" because he dominated in earlier era (the 60's). People used to always have Wilt and Bill Russell in the discussion same discussion of greatest players of All-time and it wasn't uncommon for people to consider Wilt being the better player. People only seem to have stopped including him and still leaving Russel in to push this whole championship narrative that they been pushing to keep MJ at the top. You can't say it's about championships then leave out Bill Russel too. And then there's Kareem who typically gets ranked higher than Wilt and Russel and the major factor for that was he had the All-time scoring record and they considered the 70's and 80's to be a more modern era with better talent than from the 60's... The contradiction here, is there's always a blatant contradiction in who the analysts rank the greatest players of the All-time to be. If you go with Most Rings it's 1. Russel then 2. Kareem & Jordan. If you go with Most Dominate 1. Wilt 2. Shaq & Lebron. If you go with greatest he scorers it's 1. Lebron 2. Kareem. If you go with greatest scoring in limited seasons then it's 1. Wilt 2. Jordan. Then if your factoring the current era with the more modern era being more difficult then it's 1. Lebron 2. Kobe & Shaq 3. Tim Duncan (2000's). The only time there's an inconsistency of how players are being ranked is when someone says MJ is number 1 whether it be for most rings, most dominate, greatest scorer, or playing in a more modern era... In short, Wilt only fell off people's radar to push the narrative that rings are the most important indication of an individual player's greatness for Jordan's sake. And subsequently, this also ensures that Bill Russel is always in the discussion of greatest players, even though before people were calling Jordan the greatest All-time, most usually had Kareem or Wilt ranked number 1 All-time followed by Bird, Magic, and Bill Russell. It's no coincidence now that when top 10 lists are revisited sometimes Wilt Magic or Bird will find themselves out of the list, but Bill Russell ends up always remaining in the top 10. There's definitely a disparity in how they rank players. I remember nobody aside from fans was typically putting Kobe in the top 10 rankings, until after passed, and then all of sudden people started putting him on those lists, years after he already retired smh. I always thought of Kobe as MJ 2.0 playing in a more modern era with tougher defenders and tougher types of defenses to go against, and overall just alot more talent around the league yet they didn't even have him originally in the top 10 All-time list, in his last years in the NBA.
@@Darealkingrichard yet you’re programmed to believe Bron is the greater player…. Look up the definition of greatness and tel me who fits the bill more between Bron and Mike. Now people make a lot of shit up like Mike beating Bron one on one…… that’s just delusional idiocy but talking the “greatest” basketball player ever??? It’s Jordan and it’s insurmountable. This is like Pac/Big/Mike Jack. Some people just can’t be passed. Curry was the only guy that had a chance but he joined KD and everything went out the window.
@@jamesonedwardsii4943michael jordan is a better scorer but the rules changed so we dont know how that would've changed for bron but bron does everything else better... The person who gets the most disrespect is Kareem... to be clear i dont think there is a greatest of all time... its greatest of each era... Statistically Kareem is the greatest basketball player of all time... mj kareem and Bron are the top, different eras different positions and wildly different rules... the goat talk gets old after awhile... everybody pushes people down to claim their suggested person is better its obnoxious
They say he need Jimmy Butler confidence and he ended Jimmy as well! Once when with the Bulls and once when with TWolves. I really don’t understand none of this. Dude is 7-12 in last second shits that’s 58%. Like what in the hell are they talking about.
@@michaelcormier4145 bro is same age as bron drafted in 2005 and didn't last after his rookie contract. He was labelled a delusional guy after college who had a big ego. He wears a crown ofcourse he hates bron😂
Whats so funny is that he beat the Wizards(Gilbert's team) with a last second shot...twice on playoffs. While Gilbert missed a clutch free throw being heckled by Lebron
Lebron has always had a number 2 step up in those close moments in his 4 wins Wade, Ray Allen, Kyrie and AD carried the load more than him in those wins‼️
this conversation is so misinformed lmao LeBron has several game closing clutch shots. more than an mj an Kobe... this idea of LeBron not being able to close games in clutch fashion is insane. this has to stop
Yeah in 2015 when he came back to Cleveland I thought Lebron was on the decline. I was like the only reason he came back to Cleveland because his career was on the decline. I think it was probably that diet he was on that had is number slipping.
The nigga played 3 years and did nothing in those 3 years. He the same age as Bron and gotta watch this nigga have the career he dreamed of....do the math here
Being better than 95% of the league means he would be better than at least 23 other players and with him making third team, I could be convinced he’s still better than most players in the league
Bron has the most go ahead or game winners in the last 10 seconds of a game in nba history… but everyone says he’s not “that guy??” Imo he has always done whatever it took to win which is why he has 10 Finals appearances including 8 in a row.
Yes he is. Lebron gotta stop being so proud, he aint 21 no more. Cut his minutes to 30 mpg, and his effectiveness would sky rocket. He's playing too many meaningless minutes nowdays...
We gonna cut our best player's minutes, the #1 scorer of the team. And the most consistent of them all. Yes, you a genius man, you should coach in the NBA
@@Misaki11111 you’re acting like he said make him the sixth man. Better management of his minutes would benefit him and the team on top of getting better players for the system.
It wasn't that ad wasn't the number 1. LeBron still has to facilitate. Kyrie and dwade could facilitate from the front court. If he gets kyrie again or trey young things are much different.
No hes not Kareem is the most accomplished basketball player ever... but jordan got the first shoe deal... so everyone goes to whos more marketable... mj gets all the credit for basketball being popular like magic and bird didnt already do that.... mike made the nba more valuable... Lebron did everything mj could do... for a much longer stretch of time... y'all like to act like mj was great the whole time he played... he was trash those last 2 season with the wizards....
I love Jordan but people kill me he doesn’t have the most point, rings, assists, rebounds, but is solidified as being the absolute best for what reason
@@raybohlander5502 "you have to beat the champ" as they say in boxing. Levron has lost in the ring multiple times and has even had meltdowns. Jordan is the goat, Lebron is the stat-goat. You heard it hear first.
@@The_Niburu you probably grew up watching Mike... I did too most of the people on espn watched Mike so its going to be hard to change minds.... alot of sport casters played mike... mike was the best of his generation... but he wasnt way better... he like lebron got all the coverage... thats not his fault thats what happens when you are the best... but hes not better than lebron or kareem.... im bot arguing about who the goat is im making clear that my stance is their is no goat.... but i do think kareem mj and lebron are a notch above the rest... i don't care if you disagree you are welcome to
Lebron saying that AD should be the number one is absolving himself of blame because to be honest he still controls the game as the number one option so him saying AD is number one is just talk in order to get AD that blame in case it doesn’t go right‼️
Lebron haters be like "just watch the game" but when pressed about what happened in the game it become super obvious they don't actually watch him play. Its been like this his whole career.
Speaking of MJ being a truly dominant player in the NBA Finals, it's obvious from several accolades. For starters, Jordan has the most NBA Finals MVP awards in the history of the league.
James does too, that’s always his goal. He just breaks records while trying to do so. It’s not like he has great stats with 0 titles. He’s a 4 time champ and MVP too.
A person who never watched basketball would think the guy they talking about aint shit when its time to close but in reality the person they saying dont got this & that HAS THE MOST CLUTCH PLAYOFF MAKES😂 its funny how information is being passed
I still do not understand the notion that lebron is "afraid of the moment" or isn't clutch. In the last 5 secs of playoff games to tie or take the lead LeBron is 7/19, and Kobe is 4/18, but kobe is more clutch? For the final 1min of playoff games to tie or take the lead LeBron is 21/45 (46%), Kobe is 12/44(27%), reggie miller is 7/17(41%), Paul Pierce is 7/26(27%). But LeBron is afraid of the moment tho.
I tuned into ALL the battles Gil had wit LeBron, being from Pittsburgh directly in the middle of both of them...I especially appreciate him not being PP against lebron in retirement.. he just keep it 💯 💯 that's why i fux wit broski
For McCants to have played basketball. It's just weird to hear him talk sometimes. Doesn't he know the number one option pulls the double in the triple team so it makes it easier for the number two option to score and he still scored the same amount of points as him in clutch time.(by the way McCants nice embellishment on how many points LeBron had) That's when the double and triple teams come on. We just saw it in the series with the nuggets. The last play of the series they triple team LeBron. This is why the other players can have so many points. I mean ain't that common sense for basketball players?
bruh you can easily argue he's in the top 2%, which is just top8-9 in the league, you can tell Bron calculated it before he even put out the statement, shit not even worth debating
AD just probably doesn’t have it in him to be the #1 option for the lakers. Some people aren’t built for it. When Shaq took off to Miami Kobe took the torch and ran with it. Near the end he of his career he was waiting for one of the young guys to take the torch. It’s taken never given and same with Lebron now he is waiting for AD to take it but he isn’t taking it.
The messed up part is they can’t even trade AD because they need him, a 7footer who averages 25 and 10 and can get you 3 blocks a game doesn’t grow on trees.
Why do people insist on lying every time they talk about Lebron??? He DID NOT average 37ppg. He’s NEVER averaged that in his career! Lebron is better than 70% of the league. Not 95%! And Lebron is the only person that ever said “washed king” on TCB and now y’all wanna claim everyone is saying it. Stop it!!!
It's always funny when dudes say LeBron don't have a go to move hence he doesn't wanna take the last shot, yet this man has the most playoff game winners in the history of the league.🤣🤣
Let's be honest Memphis and GSW plus having to fight to get in playoffs took too much energy off LA. That's why having a bad seed can hurt you having to go through the best.
Bron was 1 rebound away from a 40pt triple double in his last game at 38 in the WCF and niggas are asking is he Top 20 in the league smh
Facts people was making post like he didn’t shoot 15-25 and almost had 40 lol
coming off a torn foot tendon
@@lukeellis8906 LeExcuses
@Tyshawn007 swept by a slow unathletic white boy.
Trash
Are you really this stupid??
McCants is trying his hardest to not sound like he hating, while clinching his fist like Arthur.
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😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂.... Like Arthur! 😂 😂 😂
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McCants mentioned Kyrie’s 41 like Bron ain’t have 41,16& 7 lmao
Man doesn’t know what he’s talking about lebron makes the right choice every time in the clutch
I swear tht last part kill me too, talk bout LEbron ain’t got confidence goin in the paint , wtf ninja on?
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these dudes are old they don't remember what happened In 2016
Idt he was necessarily saying that he couldn’t be the #1 in the finals. I think he was implying those championships he was actually able to defer to them comfortably when needed.
McCants:Kyrie got 41 game 6....
Everyone: Bron had 41 too 😅
Kyries was more impactful tho that’s just facts. He had all the momentum plays
@@Gabe-lj9fothey still both had 41 wtf💀😂
@@laudymadecam9467 right wtf dude talking bout....lol
Bron had the 40 with damn near 10 rebounds and assists 😅
@@thaofficiall2thad420 people only care about points these days and how “imPaCTfUl” they are like bro pay attention to the game
I’m convinced mccants is just there for bad takes
Has to be!!!
The rest there for nut riding.
Every barbershop got that dude that always says the dumbest shit possible 😂😂😂
@@cristianlopez6801you need someone like that tho 😂
Only Lebron can avg 30-8-7 and be washed😂😂😂
facts 😂😂😂😂
They swear he's stat padding though lol. He can't win with haters
@@PrinceCortezJonesLebron haters are actual rats bro. Losers
@@drayz9655 facts bro
@@PrinceCortezJones Lmfao😆😆😆
LeBron had 41 in that same game that Kylie had 41. They both scored 41 in that game 6.
They fail to mention that along with double digit rebounds, damn near 10 assists, multiple blocks and steals lmaoo. They really can’t imagine one player being able to do so much on the court, so they try their best to diminish it
It was game 5 actually at Golden State. Lebron delivered again in game 6 with a solo 40 point performance.
Kyrie has had more playoff wins in any single random season with lebron than he has the rest of his career without lebron combined.
@@josephhandy8767yeah but w/o Kyrie 41 they lose there lies the difference
Wrong Kyrie and Bron had 40 game 5. Bron had 40 game 6 not Kyrie
I was wondering where all the McCants animosity toward lebron comes from so i did some research LeBron abd McCants faced each other 7 times LeBron is 6-1 averaging 38ppg to McCants 7ppg so he probably still having dreams about LBJ cooking his ass.
Lmfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You too emotional doing all that 😂
😂😂😂😂😂he having nightmares 😂😂😂😂😂
@@khalidmoore8341 not emotional, just thorough 😂 he presented some valid evidence
@@khalidmoore8341how that emotional … it’s literally logical facts cold hard stats
Lebron has really spoiled expectations of what people think stars should be doing. Dude went to 8 straight finals and played as the vegas underdog team in most of them.
He lost most of them so Vegas was accurate
You'd rather not make it to the final game than come 2nd place. Fuking loser
@Uzoma Ojinnaka Jr. Not the point stupid. The fact that he's the underdog means the odds are stack against him. Stop being ignorant.
@@Uzo_oo that’s besides the point who in todays game does what lebron did .. they’ll appreciate him when he’s gone I promise you
@@Uzo_oo
It means his teams shouldn't have been there. Bit somehow he was good enough to get subpar teams there. Stop hating, and look at logics and facts.
Before he hurt his foot he had one of the best stretches of anyone. He definitely looked different after. Still very effective.
While losing! Context matters team was under .500 93% of the season
@@made_u_LookTV so you can't be a good player when your team is losing? you play hard but you lose that's just game.
The work he did kept them in the race. And they got to the conference finals with a bad team.
@@criscris428 so why u haters calling kd trash ?
@@ojoj5194 why are people haters if they aren’t a fan of someone? Y’all be abusing tf out that hater shit
He made the All-NBA Third Team this year. That means he is still considered one of the best in the NBA.
Fact
Maybe second team is 95%
@@mostmost1 you dont have to guess. It's simple math. There are 450 players. 10% of that is 45. Half of that(5%) is 23 players. Lebron basically said he's a top 25 player. It aint even worth debating to be honest.
Of course he's still better than 95% of the league. But he's also playing in fewer games which indicates to me that father time has caught up. Both can be true people. And to point it out isn't hating. We just stating facts.
@@NotoriousSSV YOU MUST BE ASIAN, because I see no flaws in your math
Why does McCants act like he’s in the hall of fame?🤣🤣🤣🤣
He played the game
He was trash 🗑️
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@@757bigj so he’s washed really
Been sayinf that for the longest time. His career was garbage.
If people ain’t know lebron was 38, this wouldn’t be a discussion cause he still playing great
very astute and you are absolutely correct
I think he needs a baldy and grey beard exposed, so you know how old he really is😅
Standing around on d, can't shoot, 2 dunks, no good at the line, flops, what are you talking about?
Mathematically
There are 450 players in the NBA. To take in consideration of the top 5% of NBA players we are considering 22.5 (23) players in the NBA. By virtue that in his 20th season Lebron James is on All-NBA Third Team all NBA he is one of the top 15 players in all of the NBA.
Taking in consideration of the playoffs, there were 4 teams left. Each team has 5 starters which again would mean 20 players. Every team has a top two players at least makes the current players to 4 or 8 best players in the playoffs. Without question Lebron is in that top tier calibrated player in 2023 playoff.
Rashaad is Skip Bayliss in Lebron's body 😂😂😂😂😂
Hahahaha Good One LOL
This conversation doesn't make sense, LeBron has waaaay better numbers in crunch time than Wade and Kyrie put together. I love Gil but he's off on this one.
It’s amazing how they act like he’s not clutch when ALL his clutch numbers are tops all time. They just don’t like the fact that his ego allows him to play the lead or take a backseat depending on the situation
@@josephhandy8767 exect when its < 5 seconds... he's the worst
I think it’s because when Gil was in the league at his height Bron was 2003-2010 in Cavs… Bron has evolved so much and 2018 Bron took a team to the finals by himself hitting multiple clutch game winners
@@kig4794 in what world? Not in basketball lol. But it sound good tho lmaoo
@@josephhandy8767 its facts, only person under him is J Crawford
I will predict that in this video McCants hating ass will say no because he’s never is better than 5% of players in NBA.
Dawg just because somebody got a different opinion don't make you a hater y'all lebron fans be acting gay as hell on god I see what kwame brown was talking about now 😂😂😂
@@quentinjonesjr7130bruh there's having a different opinion and then there's just saying retarded shit which is what most niggas do. Dont be knowing jackshit about basketball and think cause they watched a bunch of Kobe and Mike highlights y'all know how players supposed to play. Most of y'all are haters, period. The fact you mentioned Kwame Browns bust ass proves it
He did, you right lol
@@quentinjonesjr7130bro there’s facts and opinions and I see where you land lol
The way folks sleep on Bron's ability and mentality is crazy lol. McCants must have forgot all of those big games Bron had against Boston, Detroit, Toronto, GS, and more. Over there talking about some, "He needs that Jimmy Butler confidence" lol smh.
Mccants could use that jimmy confidence too, his career wouldve been much better. Crazy how this guy talks as if hes been there and done that. Out of everyone in the room he should have the most respect, cause he know the grind aint easy, cause if it was he would actually be in position to talk like gil and the others
LOL Like Lebron led teams that won four championships and he was the best player on all of them and made the majority of the biggest plays but yes he needs to think like a guy who isn't half as accomplished as him.
Mentality?! Mark is a LOSER with a LOSER mentality! Can't shoot? Just flop all over the place.😂😂😂 give me a break
Lebron definitely gave McCants the business in AAU or in the league he's so bitter.
Top comment say he averaging 40 ppg and went 6-1 against him in the league
McCant mentioned game 6 when lebron a side and let Kyrie get 41 and “take over”…. Lebron also had 41 in that game😂
It’s absolutely wild that this conversation happened without anyone interjecting with actual facts. Lebron is the most clutch playoff performer in history, according to actual numbers. One of the guys brings up two game 6’s in the finals without mentioning that Lebron also had 41 in the same game. This was complete revisionist history, and it wasn’t hard to notice the hate.
He had that wrong it was actually game 5 where bron and kyrie had 41 then game 6 bron had 41 again and I believe Kyrie had 25
We watched too many shying away from the moment and being saved… Lebron isn’t a closer even if he’s better than guys that are , idk why y’all fight that so much 😂jumper aint reliable in the clutch and free throw liability… game 4 closing moments showed that which we seen too many times…y’all love the numbers but liars figure and figures lie!
@@khalidmoore8341 I could agree that he doesn’t look to close at times but to say he’s never closed a game or hit game winners is just stupid lol it doesn’t matter if he closes all the time if the team wins the game who cares lol the objective is to win the game lol he’s still the 2nd greatest player to ever touch a basketball whether you think he can close or not 😂😂😂
You’re a SHEEP! Clutch statistics count uncontested break away dunks and layups as being “clutch”. The media and analysts and nba stat guys changed the definition of clutch so that anybody can be “clutch”.
When you think of clutch it’s very simple….. who hits the big game winning and game tying shots when it matters the absolute most??? You can’t miss these shots and be called “clutch” just because you score dunks and layups in the last 5 minutes of regulation……
@@khalidmoore8341 I love LeBron but think about the biggest moments from players in playoff and finals history….. LeBrons biggest moments are all blocks while he’s had teammates hit some of the biggest shots in NBA history. Bron isn’t clutch at all in my opinion and most dudes aren’t. The most clutch players in the league are Dame and Kawhi right now…. Literally no one else is proven.
Imagine averaging 30-8-7 and saying that’s you’re washed
He's washed no defense, transition basketball player, cherry picks most of the time
@@757bigjbro are you blind? Lebron was playing great defense since the trade deadline.
@757bigj ur a casual... taking charges, big time blocks.. calling out peoples plays. Boi gtfoh
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@@jaydot4956 Jamal Murray cooked lebron
Bron as the #2 is what he was in the bubble, the point guard that was setting up the rest of the team and they won the chip. Bron just needs a better player to become the #2 to.
Forget 95% I'd go as far as saying Bron is still better than 97% of the NBA.
99% How many players actually know every team's play? That alone is unreal on top of 30-8-7.
If you switch harden with bron Philly going to the chip and winning it. Bet anything! Lol the nuggets just to good and the lakers got sorry role players. Bron still top 3 player in the league Thas how you know.
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@@smartmoneyplays4149 stop
@@BigDilf3 no u stop Bron with Embid in the pick and roll is crazy and a chip with that defense that they have and them shooters with Maxey you tripping
I ain’t even a Lebron fan but I will appreciate the talent he has and what he’s done at this age, it’s unheard of. Appreciate it til it lasts
Who has next? Who is the guy? I don't see it. Who do you think is the next guy?
Scoot Henderson
I feel the same way
What don't act like lebrick hasn't been carried do you know LBJ had a total of seven active all stars to win those rings MJ won six rings with one active all star Scottie pipen how can you be NBA all time leading scorer with one scoring titles MJ has ten nobody has that but him plus he average more points per game than anybody no way I can put lebrick next to that type of greatness
You talking about the guy who just got swept again by Denver
They forgetting Bron did all what they saying the last two years with the heat and when Kyrie left Cavs.
The scariest thing is Bron NEVER fully tapped into his selfish 1v1 type player he was always looking to win. Which is the only thing I don’t like about him and what makes his potential scary
Back to Playoffs 2018 Lebron was clutch during this exercise. Don't forget that he made one of the most impressive playoffs performance, being clutch in each round back to 2018.
lebron has the most buzzer beater in playoff history why are they saying he dont got it?? We are living in a post reality commentary world
I was thinking the same thing. Yes, he doesn’t have a signature move but he’s hit so many game winners in his career
Mccants just regurgitating memes he has seen and skip bayless talking points. It’s trash. And the panel doesn’t push back enough.
@@BWen3 Definitely agree 💯
@@dvonnlynch1607 You're absolutely correct the numbers don't lie.
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lebron on offense could still be #1 option but he needs elite defenders around him who can consistently give 15-20 a game. Dlo is literally the difference in the series, if he performed at his expected level lakers might have still lost the series but it would have gone from sweep to 6 maybe 7 game series.
3 and D guys 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
the fact that dude didn't know about the washed king thing instantly invalidated anything he could possibly say
Dude walk around with a crown on his head. He clearly in his own world 😂
It's simple math...... If you got him in the top 20 that means he's still 95% better than the rest of the league
And NO FUCKING WAY 19 dudes in the NBA better than Bron STILL at 38yo
Brandon Jennings be high as shit 🤣 bro highkey chillen
Every time ppl talk about Bron it's like they haven't seen him play for 20 years
Did this man just say that lebron becomes a #2 in the finals?? Lol wtf
He became the 3rd option in 2011
When they played Memphis in the regular season and he just bounced the ball under his own rim and then ran full court and put a posterized dunk on JJJ... I was like how is this man 38 🤯
What's crazy is Bron has more go ahead game winning buckets then kobe or Jordan on a higher percentage
This might be the worst take I ever heard. Hey I’m gonna shoot 5 threes and you take 15. Let’s see who hits more.
Great convo. Jennings looks like he went to an audition for a remake of "Juice" after the show.
Someone watching their first NBA game might answer yes BECAUSE THEY TALK ABOUT HIM 95% of the time!
The answer was too simple, they were having trouble answering it 😂
Also. Just because you wanna shoot the last shot and ain’t scared dont make you clutch or even good. Lebron has a rly high if not highest percentage of last second go ahead and game winning shots regular and playoffs. Ppl just hate. Simple. Cuz he don’t do it pretty and all cute.
3:17 Don't be like Jordan. Be like Stockton. Pad them records!
But people remember Jordan more than Stockton. People do not really seem to care about records. Wilt also holds a lot of records, and he seems to not get talked about as much either.
@Ronniem90 That's cause most humans are EASILY programmed. A player can only control THEIR output,jordan gets way too much credit for the bulls organization success. The numbers show bron did MORE for his teams than mj did for his
@@RonnieM90 Wilt doesn't get talked about as much "anymore" because he dominated in earlier era (the 60's). People used to always have Wilt and Bill Russell in the discussion same discussion of greatest players of All-time and it wasn't uncommon for people to consider Wilt being the better player. People only seem to have stopped including him and still leaving Russel in to push this whole championship narrative that they been pushing to keep MJ at the top. You can't say it's about championships then leave out Bill Russel too. And then there's Kareem who typically gets ranked higher than Wilt and Russel and the major factor for that was he had the All-time scoring record and they considered the 70's and 80's to be a more modern era with better talent than from the 60's... The contradiction here, is there's always a blatant contradiction in who the analysts rank the greatest players of the All-time to be. If you go with Most Rings it's 1. Russel then 2. Kareem & Jordan. If you go with Most Dominate 1. Wilt 2. Shaq & Lebron. If you go with greatest he scorers it's 1. Lebron 2. Kareem. If you go with greatest scoring in limited seasons then it's 1. Wilt 2. Jordan. Then if your factoring the current era with the more modern era being more difficult then it's 1. Lebron 2. Kobe & Shaq 3. Tim Duncan (2000's). The only time there's an inconsistency of how players are being ranked is when someone says MJ is number 1 whether it be for most rings, most dominate, greatest scorer, or playing in a more modern era... In short, Wilt only fell off people's radar to push the narrative that rings are the most important indication of an individual player's greatness for Jordan's sake. And subsequently, this also ensures that Bill Russel is always in the discussion of greatest players, even though before people were calling Jordan the greatest All-time, most usually had Kareem or Wilt ranked number 1 All-time followed by Bird, Magic, and Bill Russell. It's no coincidence now that when top 10 lists are revisited sometimes Wilt Magic or Bird will find themselves out of the list, but Bill Russell ends up always remaining in the top 10. There's definitely a disparity in how they rank players. I remember nobody aside from fans was typically putting Kobe in the top 10 rankings, until after passed, and then all of sudden people started putting him on those lists, years after he already retired smh. I always thought of Kobe as MJ 2.0 playing in a more modern era with tougher defenders and tougher types of defenses to go against, and overall just alot more talent around the league yet they didn't even have him originally in the top 10 All-time list, in his last years in the NBA.
@@Darealkingrichard yet you’re programmed to believe Bron is the greater player…. Look up the definition of greatness and tel me who fits the bill more between Bron and Mike.
Now people make a lot of shit up like Mike beating Bron one on one…… that’s just delusional idiocy but talking the “greatest” basketball player ever??? It’s Jordan and it’s insurmountable. This is like Pac/Big/Mike Jack. Some people just can’t be passed. Curry was the only guy that had a chance but he joined KD and everything went out the window.
@@jamesonedwardsii4943michael jordan is a better scorer but the rules changed so we dont know how that would've changed for bron but bron does everything else better... The person who gets the most disrespect is Kareem... to be clear i dont think there is a greatest of all time... its greatest of each era... Statistically Kareem is the greatest basketball player of all time... mj kareem and Bron are the top, different eras different positions and wildly different rules... the goat talk gets old after awhile... everybody pushes people down to claim their suggested person is better its obnoxious
They both had 41 in game 5. Bron had back to back 41 in game 5 and 6
They say he need Jimmy Butler confidence and he ended Jimmy as well! Once when with the Bulls and once when with TWolves. I really don’t understand none of this.
Dude is 7-12 in last second shits that’s 58%. Like what in the hell are they talking about.
He ended in the finals too😂
Bro said Kyrie game 6 had 41 no that was Bron
hes trying everything to hate... bron had 44 or sum shit
@@michaelcormier4145 bro is same age as bron drafted in 2005 and didn't last after his rookie contract. He was labelled a delusional guy after college who had a big ego. He wears a crown ofcourse he hates bron😂
It’s crazy how lebron always lets someone else take over the 4th but still somehow has the most playoff buzzer beaters😂 the math ain’t mathing
Whats so funny is that he beat the Wizards(Gilbert's team) with a last second shot...twice on playoffs. While Gilbert missed a clutch free throw being heckled by Lebron
Lebron has always had a number 2 step up in those close moments in his 4 wins Wade, Ray Allen, Kyrie and AD carried the load more than him in those wins‼️
this conversation is so misinformed lmao LeBron has several game closing clutch shots. more than an mj an Kobe... this idea of LeBron not being able to close games in clutch fashion is insane. this has to stop
this convo is hilarious - the guy is tied for most playoff buzzer beaters of all time 😂
Yeah in 2015 when he came back to Cleveland I thought Lebron was on the decline. I was like the only reason he came back to Cleveland because his career was on the decline. I think it was probably that diet he was on that had is number slipping.
Rasheed seems like he serious has some hate towards bron
cause he got cooked regulary in the 2000s by bron lmao
The nigga played 3 years and did nothing in those 3 years. He the same age as Bron and gotta watch this nigga have the career he dreamed of....do the math here
He's 38 and still setting records. How many players in NBA history do you know doing what he did this season? (injured or not).
But Jordan said he has no issue because he never chased stats. It was all about winning.
Athleticism his first 10 years? He had that same Athleticism his first 17 yrs lol
Being better than 95% of the league means he would be better than at least 23 other players and with him making third team, I could be convinced he’s still better than most players in the league
I ask this kid 4 years ago who was his favorite player and he said lebron. Then he said but he's wash he's old. I was like yeah he is huh. 😂😂😂😂
Bron has the most go ahead or game winners in the last 10 seconds of a game in nba history… but everyone says he’s not “that guy??” Imo he has always done whatever it took to win which is why he has 10 Finals appearances including 8 in a row.
Yes he is. Lebron gotta stop being so proud, he aint 21 no more. Cut his minutes to 30 mpg, and his effectiveness would sky rocket. He's playing too many meaningless minutes nowdays...
I couldn’t agree more, stick and move, this man still tryna be a brawler at 39
Pick your spots bron lol 😂
We gonna cut our best player's minutes, the #1 scorer of the team. And the most consistent of them all. Yes, you a genius man, you should coach in the NBA
Did you even see game 4? If Bron is washed then the rest of the lake show must be cloroxed according to your logic.
@@bryrashad word
@@Misaki11111 you’re acting like he said make him the sixth man. Better management of his minutes would benefit him and the team on top of getting better players for the system.
It wasn't that ad wasn't the number 1. LeBron still has to facilitate. Kyrie and dwade could facilitate from the front court. If he gets kyrie again or trey young things are much different.
Dorrell Wright was a glitch on 2k8 for Portland 😤
That whole Denver team seems to have that"nut cuttin clutch gene" 😉❤️💪💯
Jordan is solidified. He wasn't chasing kareem and trying to be the best ever. He was already the best and still is stop playing gilbert
No hes not Kareem is the most accomplished basketball player ever... but jordan got the first shoe deal... so everyone goes to whos more marketable... mj gets all the credit for basketball being popular like magic and bird didnt already do that.... mike made the nba more valuable... Lebron did everything mj could do... for a much longer stretch of time... y'all like to act like mj was great the whole time he played... he was trash those last 2 season with the wizards....
I love Jordan but people kill me he doesn’t have the most point, rings, assists, rebounds, but is solidified as being the absolute best for what reason
@@raybohlander5502 two 3peats, never lost in the finals, undefeated, lebron never did that
@@raybohlander5502 "you have to beat the champ" as they say in boxing. Levron has lost in the ring multiple times and has even had meltdowns. Jordan is the goat, Lebron is the stat-goat. You heard it hear first.
@@The_Niburu you probably grew up watching Mike... I did too most of the people on espn watched Mike so its going to be hard to change minds.... alot of sport casters played mike... mike was the best of his generation... but he wasnt way better... he like lebron got all the coverage... thats not his fault thats what happens when you are the best... but hes not better than lebron or kareem.... im bot arguing about who the goat is im making clear that my stance is their is no goat.... but i do think kareem mj and lebron are a notch above the rest... i don't care if you disagree you are welcome to
Lebron saying that AD should be the number one is absolving himself of blame because to be honest he still controls the game as the number one option so him saying AD is number one is just talk in order to get AD that blame in case it doesn’t go right‼️
Lebron haters be like "just watch the game" but when pressed about what happened in the game it become super obvious they don't actually watch him play. Its been like this his whole career.
Speaking of MJ being a truly dominant player in the NBA Finals, it's obvious from several accolades. For starters, Jordan has the most NBA Finals MVP awards in the history of the league.
5:27 “I just seen a tick too about this”💀💀💀💀 get this man out😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
They say that’s not Bron’s expertise, yet Bron has more game winners and clutch shots than everyone.
We so stuck on stats and not on winning more rings 😂
Jordan said he did not play for stats, He played for winning and title's
James does too, that’s always his goal. He just breaks records while trying to do so. It’s not like he has great stats with 0 titles. He’s a 4 time champ and MVP too.
“Washed king” started in 2019
Brandon Jennings is trying not to laugh haha whoever the guy next to him ranting about Lebron
So let's get this straight... they are saying Lebron has always needed a closer to win. I agree with that 100%.
Congratulations. It's a whole Legion of you delusional Haters.
Whoever this guy is on set that referred to tick toc and said LeBron is #2 in finals, never bring him back 😂😂😂
I like Jason's takes and energy
Bron real signature move is the spin move going downhill at the rim.
In transition
“He washed out averaging 30” 😂😂😂😂 Gilbert a funny dude man
A person who never watched basketball would think the guy they talking about aint shit when its time to close but in reality the person they saying dont got this & that HAS THE MOST CLUTCH PLAYOFF MAKES😂 its funny how information is being passed
& Gil said he had moments but in reality he had THE MOST MOMENTS😭🫵🏽
Lebron ain't shit, he got swept by Denver 🧹
I still do not understand the notion that lebron is "afraid of the moment" or isn't clutch.
In the last 5 secs of playoff games to tie or take the lead LeBron is 7/19, and Kobe is 4/18, but kobe is more clutch?
For the final 1min of playoff games to tie or take the lead LeBron is 21/45 (46%), Kobe is 12/44(27%), reggie miller is 7/17(41%), Paul Pierce is 7/26(27%). But LeBron is afraid of the moment tho.
Gil. LeBron came in out of high-school. Raise that narrative. If mj came out of high-school. Different narrative
I tuned into ALL the battles Gil had wit LeBron, being from Pittsburgh directly in the middle of both of them...I especially appreciate him not being PP against lebron in retirement.. he just keep it 💯 💯 that's why i fux wit broski
The do know Bron got the signature fade away out the post ask Toronto about that 🤣
LeBron the only dude that can have the most game winning buzzer beaters in playoff history and still have ppl talk ab him like "he dont got that"
Lamebron has never been the number 1 option except when he played the 1st years in Cleveland & we know the results!!
Who said LeBron was washed in 2015? The dude was in his prime so how was he washed?
Bro mccants is literally hating on bron & no body is addressing it.
Because you can't logic mccants. He'll just keep doubling down and being wrong
For McCants to have played basketball. It's just weird to hear him talk sometimes. Doesn't he know the number one option pulls the double in the triple team so it makes it easier for the number two option to score and he still scored the same amount of points as him in clutch time.(by the way McCants nice embellishment on how many points LeBron had) That's when the double and triple teams come on. We just saw it in the series with the nuggets. The last play of the series they triple team LeBron. This is why the other players can have so many points. I mean ain't that common sense for basketball players?
Stats don't matter in this NBA everybody is getting stats.
Can we stop acting like bron didn’t have a torn tendon in his foot this year?😂
bruh you can easily argue he's in the top 2%, which is just top8-9 in the league, you can tell Bron calculated it before he even put out the statement, shit not even worth debating
AD just probably doesn’t have it in him to be the #1 option for the lakers. Some people aren’t built for it. When Shaq took off to Miami Kobe took the torch and ran with it. Near the end he of his career he was waiting for one of the young guys to take the torch. It’s taken never given and same with Lebron now he is waiting for AD to take it but he isn’t taking it.
The messed up part is they can’t even trade AD because they need him, a 7footer who averages 25 and 10 and can get you 3 blocks a game doesn’t grow on trees.
Jimmmy butler level of confidence - Dude nailed 3 FT at the end of the game, didnt even look like he was sweating
Why do people insist on lying every time they talk about Lebron??? He DID NOT average 37ppg. He’s NEVER averaged that in his career! Lebron is better than 70% of the league. Not 95%! And Lebron is the only person that ever said “washed king” on TCB and now y’all wanna claim everyone is saying it. Stop it!!!
Lebron don't play defense. I've seen him walk away from play on defense.
Am with you guys. Great job
It's always funny when dudes say LeBron don't have a go to move hence he doesn't wanna take the last shot, yet this man has the most playoff game winners in the history of the league.🤣🤣
Easily in the top 5%. He’s arguably still top 15 in the league tbh.
Top 10. He made 3rd All-NBA, so technically you can consider him a top 15 player considering it’s 5 players selected to All-NBA and there’s 3 of them.
McCants must be the only guy who didn't hear the Washed King narrative.
Let's be honest Memphis and GSW plus having to fight to get in playoffs took too much energy off LA. That's why having a bad seed can hurt you having to go through the best.
Not only top 5%, top 5 in the league
HE got swept in his last playoff performance. 95% better ? HE wasn't better then .