Manchus, my brother people. I hope everything turns out well for us northern peoples. Manchus! Excellent warriors! Would love to visit your land some day. Would do my heart much good! - from a Korean noble -
For all the Manchu's reverence for their archery, it was this religious connection w/ their archery that led to them rejecting firearms, irreparably setting back Chinese warfare behind Europe. Even the Ming were open to experimenting w/ firearms.
Stop making shit up. Manchus used muskets extensively. During their conquest of China they didnt use them much but still used their bows effectively against muskets armed enemies form both China and Mongolia successfully. Manchu bows are specifically designed to be short ranged armour piercers. After they conquered China they switched the garrisons and standing banners to using muskets as they were very impressed by the performance of muskets from China and Korea. Early warfare by the Manchus involved mounted warfare, muskets were not very useful for that but they were pretty pragmatic when it came to warfare and adopted muskets very fast. Archery later became more of an expectation of pure ethnically Manchu banners who were expected to be trained as warriors and archery was practiced like a sport.
It's perhaps more sincere to say that they opposed the proliferation of firearms as they didn't want an easily armed Han populace. The religious significance of archery only helped push this. There was similar pushes with regards to crossbows and early handcannons in Europe solely because such weapons were relatively simple to use for peasants and would undermine the social order of the knights. The same could be said with handcannons proliferating in Qing China as if the Han became armed, they'd uprise with much more resilience, as is what happened once firearms became prevalent in late Qing China.
@@BP-vk2yn That's not true, firstly because the Qing used firearms a lot but secondly because that was not the reason gunpowder weapons were slow to spread in Europe. Early gunpowder weapons were not very effective, they were dangerous to the people using them and they were expensive and hard to produce with only a limited amount of people having the skill set to make them. As technology improved and the ability to produce such weapons proliferated through society naturally they became more viable and started to see more widespread use.
That's honestly so cool to hear, I know about the historical impact of Manchurians, but didn't know anything about who they really are. Now I know a lot more
@@fiyangga.yanggiri-hala I am not actually sure, but i know my origin for my Mongolian side is from Inner Mongolia, most likely one of the Tujue tribes.. My Manchu side is originally Haixi Jurchen, Hoifa Hulun Tribe. Although after the Jianzhou Manchu invasion of Haixi Jurchen my original Hulun clan was destroyed. Now my Manchu side of the family views themselves different to the Jianzhou Manchus. My older generation of the family views the Qing Dynasty as negative because they destroyed all their heritage and executed all Haixi Jurchen rulers.
@@fiyangga.yanggiri-hala Yeah, but most Manchu cultures are the same. Although i do relate to Mongolian culture more, partly since Mongolia is a country but Inner Mongolia/Manchuria isn't, so they are more Chinese than their traditional cultures.
@@jinn.khristuskhaan-w5f This isn't exactly true, Manchu were always documented to be agrarian, just look at their earliest accounts of Heishui Mohe peoples. They were essentially a mix between Siberians and Chinese / Koreans and primarily practiced farming. The Jurchens later adopted Chinese and Mongolic culture from both sinicizing and being conquered by Mongols. Hope that helps, their original culture was pretty similar to Goguryeo Koreans. Also, Inner-Mongolia weren't really a great representation of Mongolic values and territories anyways since they have been a melting pot of Chinese, Mongolians, and Turkic peoples since around 100 CE. Which is over 1900 years ago.
They are Jurchens. Their ancestors destroyed the Turkic Empire. The Mongols and Chinese paid them a huge tribute. The Jurchens fought against the Mongol Empire, but they were destroyed by the allies of the Mongols. The Manchus are the remnants of the Jurchens, they wandered through the forests and mountains for a long time to recover and return to the game. The Manchus conquered Mongolia and won back half of China from Russia and Europe. And then the Manchus went broke.
@@bokonoo77 I would say they're the most related to other Siberians that traveled over to North Eastern China later, it's not really known if Manchurians split from the Donghu themselves since their earliest recording is as the Mohe / Malgal peoples. They weren't even mostly nomadic like Mongols but were Agrarians similar to Chinese and Koreans, this isn't to say that they all were though, since "Wild Jurchens" later were documented as nomadic while most Jurchen tribes were agrarian. They genetically though have been intertwined with both Chinese, Koreans, Mongols, and other Siberian ethnicities. They're basically a mix between nomadic and agrarian life which is cool.
Manchurians are not Chinese, China (or China Proper) is merely one of the parts under Manchurian rule, Daicing is Manchurian (or maybe Monglian origin) name, but not Chinese. There are many existing historical documents and logical relations showing that China inhereted Manchurian political and territorial assets without legal ground, all the way until now.
@@gr1mmd And yet, the Manchus have assimilated themselves into the Han Chinese population. I'm not even sure you can find a single Manchu living in China today that doesn't have any Han Chinese blood.
@@johnyossarian9059Han Chinese is an umbrella term for a bunch of miscegenated people, though. There is no real “Han Chinese” identity if you study ancient history. They’re literally mulattos of Asia.
Manchurians are "Chinese". They're not "Han" but they are Chinese. The idea of China isn't one ethnicity, and stop crying. Empires fall and rise it's just the way things are.
@@salvatorenostrade3331 yeah i know something about that. manchu were live with other nomadic turkic tribes which that tribes were modern turks ancestries.
@@multisomething7245 Not really? the Manchu were located to the North East of China and to the North of Koreans. They essentially were sandwiched between the Chinese, Koreans, and early Gokturks. They had very little contact with Turks though and mainly fought with Koreans and Chinese, hence their influence on Jurchen culture. If anything, the people that the Turks were in closest contact with were the Mongols and Chinese since all 3 were constantly fighting for over 2000 years.
@@salvatorenostrade3331Who are you? As for ancient historical books, there are Persian and Arabic references, and even Morkhan Turk, Ottoman Mongols, Mardamani Turktbar, and others. Hulagu Khan, two Iranian Mongols, and the Tatars, Minami and Ulyai Chalabi, were an Ottoman family man with a clear Mongol background. What happened to this heater is unscientific in my opinion! However, in the country of 90 years, you will be able to monitor the presence of Cengiz Khan, who is a Turkish man. You only have a chain of Mongol men who are affiliated with the Cengiz Khan field. But it was repulsed by the government and individuals of the Mongol origins and the Nawadgan of Cengiz Khan outside of China and the Mongols of Biruni, Turkzban, Budand. Such as Ardoy Zareen, Tatar Kharema, Ardoy Nogai, Jalayran, Timurian, Chagtay Khanate, Qazaq Khanate, Shibanian and Qajarian Khanate, they are barbaric, Turkzban, the Qajarian body, the motherland of Khud. Cengiz Khan Budand, but a Turkish man, Budand.... If the Jurchen has a connection with the Mongols, it means that it is empty, but it is empty, so there is no need to leave it alone.
Hello Turkic brother, I am Sakha (Yakut), also a Turkic-speaking person, but since we are neighbors of the Mongols and Manchus, we have both Mongolian and Manchu words in our language, and even from this song I only understand fragmentary words, like pull, pull, pull, with the index finger, gathered the gentlemen, heavens, warriors, etc. and even then probably half of what I understood were common Mongolian-Manchu words.
@@jinn.khristuskhaan-w5f Hello, Jochi! I think I can kinda guess what you are saying, but I know next to nothing in regards to the Manchurian language. Anyway, thanks for commenting. I hope I can one day visit Manchuria and learn more about it and the people living there.
@@Mongolia774it's true. I didn't know this until I read a history book recently. but from what I've understood it says this script is from ancient Syria originally .
Yp they adopted Mongol script ordered by Nurhaci. Although the two scripts look similar, some modifications were made to better represent the sounds of the Manchu language. This adoption played a role in the connection between the Qing dynasty and the Mongols, solidifying their political and cultural ties.
@@Blyatka There is also the Xibe language, which is almost identical to the same script and pronunciation there is with minor differences, but Xibe is more widely spoken than Manchu... The person who sang this song Akšan or Song Xidong speaks Manchu and Chinese fluently, so there is a likely chance that this song is in Manchu. Oh and there's "v" in some of the scripts in Manchu. That's basically a long "u" sound like hvsungga in the lyrics...probably they have it in the Xibe language as well, but I can only speak like 15% Manchu.
@shunujint1 The Mongol script is actually just a modified Old Uyghur script which is in turn based on the Sogdian Script which may be related to the Pahlavi script, otbers even say it is based on the Perso-Arabic script
@@Mongolia774 you talking about Ming rebellion or Qing conquest of Mongolia ? Well chinese are ofc not weak afterall only Manchu and Yuan Empire could conquer all China and thats impressive for a civilisation who existed at the same region for thousands of years.
>Corsican channel makes Manchu Song
>it has both Manchu and English subtitles
>uses footage from War of the Arrows
Unfathomably based
Hey I recognize you from the captaincool07 comment section xD!
Nice!
truly
Manchuria forever !
Manju tumen se !
Manchus, my brother people. I hope everything turns out well for us northern peoples. Manchus! Excellent warriors! Would love to visit your land some day. Would do my heart much good! - from a Korean noble -
@v.searcher thanks my friend. Koreans are very kind people and a lot of Koreans living in manchuria also.
Manjuur mandtugai
Musei Manju....
For all the Manchu's reverence for their archery, it was this religious connection w/ their archery that led to them rejecting firearms, irreparably setting back Chinese warfare behind Europe. Even the Ming were open to experimenting w/ firearms.
Stop making shit up. Manchus used muskets extensively. During their conquest of China they didnt use them much but still used their bows effectively against muskets armed enemies form both China and Mongolia successfully. Manchu bows are specifically designed to be short ranged armour piercers. After they conquered China they switched the garrisons and standing banners to using muskets as they were very impressed by the performance of muskets from China and Korea. Early warfare by the Manchus involved mounted warfare, muskets were not very useful for that but they were pretty pragmatic when it came to warfare and adopted muskets very fast. Archery later became more of an expectation of pure ethnically Manchu banners who were expected to be trained as warriors and archery was practiced like a sport.
It's perhaps more sincere to say that they opposed the proliferation of firearms as they didn't want an easily armed Han populace. The religious significance of archery only helped push this. There was similar pushes with regards to crossbows and early handcannons in Europe solely because such weapons were relatively simple to use for peasants and would undermine the social order of the knights. The same could be said with handcannons proliferating in Qing China as if the Han became armed, they'd uprise with much more resilience, as is what happened once firearms became prevalent in late Qing China.
@@BP-vk2yn但是现实是，明朝不允许平民拥有火枪，而清朝允许，清朝统治者曾说过，如果不允许平民拥有火枪，那么平民就会被土匪所伤害。清朝的民间枪支只要等级编号，定时审核就可以了。满洲人强调弓箭，更多地是避免士兵用火枪逃避训练，众所周知，弓箭比火枪更看重人的力量
The Qing did not reject firearms. They had whole armies armed with muskets and supported by cannons.
@@BP-vk2yn That's not true, firstly because the Qing used firearms a lot but secondly because that was not the reason gunpowder weapons were slow to spread in Europe.
Early gunpowder weapons were not very effective, they were dangerous to the people using them and they were expensive and hard to produce with only a limited amount of people having the skill set to make them. As technology improved and the ability to produce such weapons proliferated through society naturally they became more viable and started to see more widespread use.
That's honestly so cool to hear, I know about the historical impact of Manchurians, but didn't know anything about who they really are. Now I know a lot more
bi khagas mongol khagas manj khün. Bi manjiin soyol, khelend durtai. Ted yag l mongolchuud shig khüchirkheg daichid. 💪💪
so, which mongolian tribe is your origin ? maybe khorcin mongolian tribe ?
@@fiyangga.yanggiri-hala I am not actually sure, but i know my origin for my Mongolian side is from Inner Mongolia, most likely one of the Tujue tribes.. My Manchu side is originally Haixi Jurchen, Hoifa Hulun Tribe. Although after the Jianzhou Manchu invasion of Haixi Jurchen my original Hulun clan was destroyed. Now my Manchu side of the family views themselves different to the Jianzhou Manchus. My older generation of the family views the Qing Dynasty as negative because they destroyed all their heritage and executed all Haixi Jurchen rulers.
@Baturu838 ok, hoifa tribe . that's interesting. now I see why you are more related with mongolian culture and people. thanks.
@@fiyangga.yanggiri-hala Yeah, but most Manchu cultures are the same. Although i do relate to Mongolian culture more, partly since Mongolia is a country but Inner Mongolia/Manchuria isn't, so they are more Chinese than their traditional cultures.
@@jinn.khristuskhaan-w5f This isn't exactly true, Manchu were always documented to be agrarian, just look at their earliest accounts of Heishui Mohe peoples. They were essentially a mix between Siberians and Chinese / Koreans and primarily practiced farming. The Jurchens later adopted Chinese and Mongolic culture from both sinicizing and being conquered by Mongols. Hope that helps, their original culture was pretty similar to Goguryeo Koreans. Also, Inner-Mongolia weren't really a great representation of Mongolic values and territories anyways since they have been a melting pot of Chinese, Mongolians, and Turkic peoples since around 100 CE. Which is over 1900 years ago.
I am proud of my turkic manchu brothers 😊
Manchus are not Turkic， they are tungstic to say the least, so do Mongols, which are two different groups of people to Turkic
They are Jurchens. Their ancestors destroyed the Turkic Empire. The Mongols and Chinese paid them a huge tribute. The Jurchens fought against the Mongol Empire, but they were destroyed by the allies of the Mongols. The Manchus are the remnants of the Jurchens, they wandered through the forests and mountains for a long time to recover and return to the game. The Manchus conquered Mongolia and won back half of China from Russia and Europe. And then the Manchus went broke.
만주족은 엄밀히 말하자면 동호 숙신계열이라 몽골도 아니고 투르크도 아니고 고대 한국인들과 연관성이 가장 큽니다.
@@범희이-b1k lmao
they are mostly related to mongols by being literally spawned from the same donghu confederation
@@bokonoo77 I would say they're the most related to other Siberians that traveled over to North Eastern China later, it's not really known if Manchurians split from the Donghu themselves since their earliest recording is as the Mohe / Malgal peoples. They weren't even mostly nomadic like Mongols but were Agrarians similar to Chinese and Koreans, this isn't to say that they all were though, since "Wild Jurchens" later were documented as nomadic while most Jurchen tribes were agrarian. They genetically though have been intertwined with both Chinese, Koreans, Mongols, and other Siberian ethnicities. They're basically a mix between nomadic and agrarian life which is cool.
LET'S RIDE CASTRATED HORSES 🐴🐴🐴
"Ah, what a nice day being a hors-"
*snip*
"MY PRECIOUS JEWELS!!!"
Lets ride geldings would be the correct transliteration
beautiful
WE RIDING CASTRATED HORSES WITH THIS ONE!
Manchurians are not Chinese, China (or China Proper) is merely one of the parts under Manchurian rule, Daicing is Manchurian (or maybe Monglian origin) name, but not Chinese. There are many existing historical documents and logical relations showing that China inhereted Manchurian political and territorial assets without legal ground, all the way until now.
Cry harder
soy chinese vs chad nomads 😎
@@gr1mmd And yet, the Manchus have assimilated themselves into the Han Chinese population. I'm not even sure you can find a single Manchu living in China today that doesn't have any Han Chinese blood.
@@johnyossarian9059Han Chinese is an umbrella term for a bunch of miscegenated people, though. There is no real “Han Chinese” identity if you study ancient history. They’re literally mulattos of Asia.
Manchurians are "Chinese". They're not "Han" but they are Chinese. The idea of China isn't one ethnicity, and stop crying. Empires fall and rise it's just the way things are.
me as a turk i think that words are familiar but also i did not understand any word.
That's the Sprachbund effect, the earliest Manchu lived to the East of the early Turkic Khagantes.
@@salvatorenostrade3331 yeah i know something about that. manchu were live with other nomadic turkic tribes which that tribes were modern turks ancestries.
@@multisomething7245 Not really? the Manchu were located to the North East of China and to the North of Koreans. They essentially were sandwiched between the Chinese, Koreans, and early Gokturks. They had very little contact with Turks though and mainly fought with Koreans and Chinese, hence their influence on Jurchen culture. If anything, the people that the Turks were in closest contact with were the Mongols and Chinese since all 3 were constantly fighting for over 2000 years.
@@salvatorenostrade3331Who are you? As for ancient historical books, there are Persian and Arabic references, and even Morkhan Turk, Ottoman Mongols, Mardamani Turktbar, and others. Hulagu Khan, two Iranian Mongols, and the Tatars, Minami and Ulyai Chalabi, were an Ottoman family man with a clear Mongol background. What happened to this heater is unscientific in my opinion! However, in the country of 90 years, you will be able to monitor the presence of Cengiz Khan, who is a Turkish man. You only have a chain of Mongol men who are affiliated with the Cengiz Khan field.
But it was repulsed by the government and individuals of the Mongol origins and the Nawadgan of Cengiz Khan outside of China and the Mongols of Biruni, Turkzban, Budand. Such as Ardoy Zareen, Tatar Kharema, Ardoy Nogai, Jalayran, Timurian, Chagtay Khanate, Qazaq Khanate, Shibanian and Qajarian Khanate, they are barbaric, Turkzban, the Qajarian body, the motherland of Khud. Cengiz Khan Budand, but a Turkish man, Budand.... If the Jurchen has a connection with the Mongols, it means that it is empty, but it is empty, so there is no need to leave it alone.
Hello Turkic brother, I am Sakha (Yakut), also a Turkic-speaking person, but since we are neighbors of the Mongols and Manchus, we have both Mongolian and Manchu words in our language, and even from this song I only understand fragmentary words, like pull, pull, pull, with the index finger, gathered the gentlemen, heavens, warriors, etc. and even then probably half of what I understood were common Mongolian-Manchu words.
boioing
funny sfx
lrke
I’m picturing Beavis going Boingggggg with that comment 😂
when it's hard💀
@@naptimusnapolyus1227grow up
Musei Manju!
ᠮᠠᠨ᠋ᠵᡠ ᡠᡴ᠋ᠰᡠ ᡨᡠ᠋ᠮᡝᠨ ᠰᡝ ᠣᡴᡳᠨᡳ᠉
Umesi sain !
Manju tumen se !
Manchuria for Manchus! 🎉
manju sina, emu gurun waka!
@@v.searcher Tiimee düü mini! Ene kommunist khan nokhod Manjuurt baikh yosgüi!
@@jinn.khristuskhaan-w5f Hello, Jochi! I think I can kinda guess what you are saying, but I know next to nothing in regards to the Manchurian language. Anyway, thanks for commenting. I hope I can one day visit Manchuria and learn more about it and the people living there.
Which movie is the scene from? Anyway, the music is very good
War of the arrows.
@@YuvalRaphaelMughalEmpire1526 Thanks!
I can weirdly understand it without reading the translation
same. maybe cuz they copied our language
@jnfr47 yeah, we took traditional mongolian script with some modifications but our language is more related with Horqin mongolian.
@@jnfr47 I am not Mongolian though I am from Uyghur China
@@fiyangga.yanggiri-halathe mongolian writing system was adopted by the Uyghur writing system by Temuujin or Chingges Khan
@@Mongolia774it's true. I didn't know this until I read a history book recently. but from what I've understood it says this script is from ancient Syria originally .
THIS GOES INSANELY HARD
truly
🎻🎻🎻🎻 boing
unfathomably based
Those are Mongolian scriptures? So, the Manchu song is preserved with Mongols scriptures? Are they singing Manchu or Mongol?
manchu script looks similar to mongol script
Yp they adopted Mongol script ordered by Nurhaci. Although the two scripts look similar, some modifications were made to better represent the sounds of the Manchu language. This adoption played a role in the connection between the Qing dynasty and the Mongols, solidifying their political and cultural ties.
@@Blyatka There is also the Xibe language, which is almost identical to the same script and pronunciation there is with minor differences, but Xibe is more widely spoken than Manchu... The person who sang this song Akšan or Song Xidong speaks Manchu and Chinese fluently, so there is a likely chance that this song is in Manchu.
Oh and there's "v" in some of the scripts in Manchu. That's basically a long "u" sound like hvsungga in the lyrics...probably they have it in the Xibe language as well, but I can only speak like 15% Manchu.
@shunujint1 The Mongol script is actually just a modified Old Uyghur script which is in turn based on the Sogdian Script which may be related to the Pahlavi script, otbers even say it is based on the Perso-Arabic script
Save Ukraine ❤
what's ukraine got to do with this
@@AtamanPerplexRussia and its ally China are also occupy Manchuria. Ukraine is like 100 years ago Manchuria
Bro save Gaza
manchu ruled China for 200 years. did Ukrainian ruled Russia for such a long time?
Allen Nancy Allen Steven Williams Cynthia
Dzungar khanate music
Dzungar were oirats ( a tribe of mongols) manchu are tungusic and they destroyed dzungar khanate.
@@conquistador5228 based
@@conquistador5228han chinese rebels be like: Oh so you think your strong?
@@Mongolia774 you talking about Ming rebellion or Qing conquest of Mongolia ? Well chinese are ofc not weak afterall only Manchu and Yuan Empire could conquer all China and thats impressive for a civilisation who existed at the same region for thousands of years.
and looks like kazakh music
The Manchu barbarians had no civilization.
Then how they were ruling China
Barbarians can be good at War you know.