What is the Gospel of Thomas?

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    Music by Filip Holm
    Sources/Recomended Reading:
    Asgeirsson, Jon (2005). "Thomasine Traditions in Antiquity The Social and Cultural World of the Gospel of Thomas". Brill.
    Brakke, David (2012). "Gnostics: Myth, Ritual, and Diversity in Early Christianity". Harvard University Press.
    Carlson, Stephen C. (2014). "Origen's use of the Gospel of Thomas". Uppsala University.
    King, Karen (2003). "What is Gnosticism?". Harvard University Press.
    Van den Broek, Roelof (2013). "Gnostic Religion in Antiquity". Cambridge University Press.
    Meyer, Marvin (ed.) (2009). "The Nag Hammadi Scriptures: The Revised and Updated Translation of Sacred Gnostic Texts Complete in One Volume ". HarperOne.
    Meyer, Marvin & Harold Bloom (1993). "The Gospel of St Thomas: The hidden sayings of Jesus". Bravo Ltd.
    #gospelofthomas #gnosticism #christianity

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  • @LetsTalkReligion
    @LetsTalkReligion  Рік тому +59

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    • @kenoglesby5840
      @kenoglesby5840 Рік тому +3

      Here we find a mistake that is often made about salvation according to basic Christian doctrine. Salvation didn't come by way of JESUS' crucifixion...which was a remittance (sacrifice) paid for our sins past, present & future. Salvation came by way of JESUS' resurrection through which we overcame death with HIM. Without the resurrection, the crucifixion of JESUS would have been the same as with all the other crucifixions carried out by the Romans. An analogy is the difference between a fine & a death sentence: the crucifixion paid the fine & the resurrection is a pardon for the death sentence🤔

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    • @spirit292a
      @spirit292a Рік тому

      What do you think about deism?

    • @shaiksaidulu8087
      @shaiksaidulu8087 Рік тому

      Talk about Mansur al hallaj and Kabir

  • @agedcorsair6707
    @agedcorsair6707 Рік тому +1075

    As someone who rejected Christianity as a teenager on doctrinal grounds, I've since found that the life of Jesus and his teachings makes far greater sense when seen from a non-dualist perspective. The Gospel of Thomas shows this was definitely part of the Early Christian movement

    • @edward9674
      @edward9674 Рік тому +43

      What does nun-dualism mean here? Google only shows me indian philosophy.

    • @aenesidemus8819
      @aenesidemus8819 Рік тому +34

      I, too, would like to know how a non-dualist philosophy clarifies the gospel.

    • @trollsneedhugs
      @trollsneedhugs Рік тому +39

      @@aenesidemus8819 You must discover it for yourself. Another way to think about it is as a paradox. Truth here is contextual, and pure Truth exists as the context beyond all contexts.

    • @robertjsmith
      @robertjsmith Рік тому +33

      @@edward9674 non-duality is realised when the illusion of the separate self is seen through

    • @robertjsmith
      @robertjsmith Рік тому +63

      @@aenesidemus8819 the esoteric teachings in Zen,Taoism,Sufism,gnostisism ,and Vedanta in Hinduism,and Buddhism all come together in Non-duality also the Kabbalah

  • @stevenv6463
    @stevenv6463 Рік тому +59

    I'm so glad the Nag Hammadi library was found.

    • @dikhed1639
      @dikhed1639 2 місяці тому

      Yes me too. I have a speech that I've said so often to the so called "religious' when they come to mey door tryhing to convince me they have god in their front pocket, that I have nearly word for word about the importance of the Nag Hammadis. oF course, most deny the importance of them claiming them to be the mysterious, illegal "GNOSTICISM" of the evil boogyman devil.
      Well, the original black book of the devil was created to fool the ignorant (which those with the power made sure they kept in ignorance) and trick the stupid. If yhou read the "illegal" books yhou will find that jesis (even in the black devil book it says this) took some of his disciples aside to teach them secret things. Well? What ARE those secret teachings? They are definitelyh NOT in the devil book. So for those who refuse to seek the true meaning of jesix, well, you are going to have a very difficult time in hell. (And frankly, you have NO idea what heaven or hell is, you DON'T own god!)

  • @gutrotten
    @gutrotten Рік тому +201

    Bro just dropping one of the best explanations of this gospel ever on his UA-cam channel on a Sunday morning

    • @thecynicpyro
      @thecynicpyro Рік тому +1

      This mf don't miss

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  Рік тому +46

      It's honest work

    • @ReubenAotearoa.
      @ReubenAotearoa. Рік тому +2

      On the Sabbath though??? ;)

    • @shawnhall3849
      @shawnhall3849 Рік тому +2

      @@LetsTalkReligion can you do a video on the Nazarenes and mt Carmel. Were the Nazarenes an offshoot of the essenes

    • @shawnhall3849
      @shawnhall3849 Рік тому +1

      @@LetsTalkReligion or had any connection to them

  • @JerryMacek-he2jq
    @JerryMacek-he2jq 9 місяців тому +52

    I have been reading The Gospel of Thomas document for years. It's modern theology makes more sense than the church controlled and produced canonical scriptures. I love The Gospel of Thomas and consider myself a Thomasine Christian who will not taste death and have been already resurrected in the Lord. The Kingdom is within us and all around us. Greetings and Blessings To All. Amen.

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 8 місяців тому

      People who believe the gospel of Thomas(not a gospel, not written by Thomas) aren't Christians, it denies that Jesus's death and resurrection is what saves us and it denies the trinity

    • @RavinderGosal-qf5sh
      @RavinderGosal-qf5sh 5 місяців тому +1

      im leaning towards this designation as a new follower of jesus

    • @jasonearls5985
      @jasonearls5985 3 місяці тому

      Do Thomasine Christians congregate or practice a religion. Or are you self identified

    • @jasonearls5985
      @jasonearls5985 3 місяці тому +1

      @@RavinderGosal-qf5sh you need teachers

    • @dikhed1639
      @dikhed1639 2 місяці тому

      Are you sure of that? Again,. more people telling others what god wants? Really, just more liars trying to gain power and $$.@@jasonearls5985

  • @vinceofyork1757
    @vinceofyork1757 Рік тому +414

    The best non-dual Christian book I've ever read. The Gospel of Thomas should be read by all Christians for a true taste of Christianity..

    • @larshenry242
      @larshenry242 Рік тому +69

      Sir, it warms a non-religious scripture-geek's heart to see a Christian encouraging his fellow believers to read non-canonical books .. ❤️

    • @elliottfunkhouser4486
      @elliottfunkhouser4486 Рік тому +1

      Stop smoking crack

    • @Houndfromhell76
      @Houndfromhell76 Рік тому +36

      the other christianity is christianity too. Perhaps a form that does not fit you, but that is personal. Just like you have different forms of practicing islam, etc.

    • @vinceofyork1757
      @vinceofyork1757 Рік тому +12

      @@Houndfromhell76 Giving attention towards graven images has its place I suppose, I believe it's called Bhakti yoga. Just remember, the kingdom of Heaven is within...as Jesus said.

    • @spingledingle1371
      @spingledingle1371 Рік тому

      it is far from a true taste its 2nd century and was never accepted by church fathers

  • @diegomerizalde3746
    @diegomerizalde3746 Рік тому +26

    The notion that The kingdom of God is within you, is also biblical. Luke 17:21. It's what scholars call parusia. Great video man! Well appreciated!!

  • @MagnusWurzer
    @MagnusWurzer Рік тому +31

    Reminds me a lot of "The future is already here - it's just not evenly distributed." (W. Gibson)

    • @UntouchableLivingone-ji4un
      @UntouchableLivingone-ji4un 2 місяці тому

      walked the golden Path 369 returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb a Trinity first and last beginning and end one and 99 born 100 a untouchable living book was in me before I was born choose known proclaimed three times over before he was born 1. 24 .75 add move right repeat return to one . He came to me in life showed me how he knew me before I was born proclaimed undeniably three times over before I was born out womb in 7 months two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one whole in one many in the divine spark light fire purified Holy Spirit in eye of fire out womb next to two sleeping giants and a bottomless pit in the purple and gold state five stand as one known proclaimed three times over before he was born choosen before he was born for great suffering and before and during great suffering always staying true and just choose by God to be his compass out womb and in man born again in life without tasting death in Christ born again 18.1.24 judgement multiply once see perfect harmony in balance 369 with all in-laws above married the father known to the true virgin mother creator cause and effect given amnesty from law won't taste death seen beginnings from ends first became last last first out womb and in man born the untouchable living book twin or other half in one whole in one untouchable living one won't taste death the superman the hope for the man of understanding out womb Jeremy Michael middle name nickname Moezer at 3 speech impediment shorted to Moe and others man born again in life without tasting death Michael my God given name and five stand as one whole in one whole in one whole in one many M1911

  • @ekarae.ntonoba1370
    @ekarae.ntonoba1370 Рік тому +198

    The way I understand it, the Gospel of Thomas is for the esoteric. Those who have the eye to see beyond the veil. No wonder it wasn't included in the current Bible. Powerful words!

    • @fifikusz
      @fifikusz Рік тому +15

      Rather for the pantheistic. Like Spinoza...

    • @threestars2164
      @threestars2164 Рік тому

      It "wasn't included" because it has more in common with Manichaeism. There is no evidence the author known as thomas knew Jesus, he was a disciple of Mani.

    • @jamesbarlow6423
      @jamesbarlow6423 Рік тому +2

      Wrong.

    • @milanmukerji1564
      @milanmukerji1564 Рік тому +1

      For some people the Bible is the word of God and they are fanatical to the point they wont entertain any dispute. I do not accept Bible literally because it has been doctored so many times. You are not allowed to change main text in. Gita or Quoran. If you read Maimonides' , " Guide to the perplexed" , he clearly says Bible uses symbolic language. It has one meaning on the surface and one meaning on the depth. If you change the text the inner meaning is lost. There is an element of arrogance in christianity, which makes people , particularly young adolescents rebellious. They are looking for some logic and reason whatever they read. There are so much illogical and absurd things in Bible that is unacceptable to any intelligent person. No wonder the churches are not full and number of deists, agnostics and atheists are rising. In England churches bought by hindus and moslems to be converted to temples and mosqes. In Scandinavian counties only 15 to 20 percent people attend churches. So if Christianity is survive they have to have a unified honest and humble approach. For me personally Faith is nothing but affirmation of the absurd. Absolutely useless. Milan

    • @fam4449
      @fam4449 Рік тому +2

      @@fifikusz panentheistic

  • @DennisFrancispublishing
    @DennisFrancispublishing 7 місяців тому +25

    This is the concept of Christianity that brought me back to the teachings. The goal is enlightenment. 500 years after the Buddha brought the message of enlightenment to us and left to be one with the universe.

    • @waynerichards2944
      @waynerichards2944 5 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely mate. 👍 If only Christianity followed this path hey? Even though Origen wasnt a fan of Thomas, he did argue the point of the reality of reincarnation..

    • @jaynesegman7847
      @jaynesegman7847 3 місяці тому

      i like eastern thought

    • @kevinmallaribantac6346
      @kevinmallaribantac6346 2 місяці тому

      Bruh they’re all the same thing. Kingdom of God is within you = enlightenment/Nirvana.

    • @dikhed1639
      @dikhed1639 2 місяці тому

      I thot Origen was against Thomas?!@@waynerichards2944

    • @UntouchableLivingone-ji4un
      @UntouchableLivingone-ji4un 2 місяці тому

      walked the golden Path 369 returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb a Trinity first and last beginning and end one and 99 born 100 a untouchable living book was in me before I was born choose known proclaimed three times over before he was born 1. 24 .75 add move right repeat return to one . He came to me in life showed me how he knew me before I was born proclaimed undeniably three times over before I was born out womb in 7 months two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one whole in one many in the divine spark light fire purified Holy Spirit in eye of fire out womb next to two sleeping giants and a bottomless pit in the purple and gold state five stand as one known proclaimed three times over before he was born choosen before he was born for great suffering and before and during great suffering always staying true and just choose by God to be his compass out womb and in man born again in life without tasting death in Christ born again 18.1.24 judgement multiply once see perfect harmony in balance 369 with all in-laws above married the father known to the true virgin mother creator cause and effect given amnesty from law won't taste death seen beginnings from ends first became last last first out womb and in man born the untouchable living book twin or other half in one whole in one untouchable living one won't taste death the superman the hope for the man of understanding out womb Jeremy Michael middle name nickname Moezer at 3 speech impediment shorted to Moe and others man born again in life without tasting death Michael my God given name and five stand as one whole in one whole in one whole in one many M1911

  • @wayne3302264
    @wayne3302264 Рік тому +20

    There is an old saying, "History is written by the victors". So in essence many things we have been taught as history has a strong likelihood of not being exactly how it actually went since it is being depicted from a certain perspective and not all perspectives involved.

  • @OffRampTourist
    @OffRampTourist Рік тому +13

    Wonderful video. Thank you.
    Your outro reminds me of the soundtrack of the animated film, The Rabbi's Cat, a lovely fictionalized account of a time and place where peoples and languages and faiths lived side by side. It always makes me happy to hear it.

  • @amgadibnal-jabal7369
    @amgadibnal-jabal7369 Рік тому +108

    I am Druze and I like to watch your videos that are informative and unbiased ❤️

    • @amgadibnal-jabal7369
      @amgadibnal-jabal7369 Рік тому +5

      @Asclepius
      Yes

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  Рік тому +11

      Thank you!

    • @-whackd
      @-whackd Рік тому +5

      Very interesting religion, I found so much in it compatible with my thoughts, as someone who studied ancient philosophy and the world religions.

    • @batak6868
      @batak6868 Рік тому

      @@-whackd we don’t even know much about the religion because the Druze are so secretive plus they don’t take converts

    • @TheWorldTeacher
      @TheWorldTeacher Рік тому +1

      @@LetsTalkReligion, keep-up the good work, Filip!

  • @oceania68
    @oceania68 Рік тому +15

    reading the Nag Hammadi was very interesting, knowing the contentious rivalry that envelopes the topic of debate, it certainly allows for the individual to discover and learn about the diverse methods of thought surrounding this subject matter.

    • @UntouchableLivingone-ji4un
      @UntouchableLivingone-ji4un 2 місяці тому

      walked the golden Path 369 returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb a Trinity first and last beginning and end one and 99 born 100 a untouchable living book was in me before I was born choose known proclaimed three times over before he was born 1. 24 .75 add move right repeat return to one . He came to me in life showed me how he knew me before I was born proclaimed undeniably three times over before I was born out womb in 7 months two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one whole in one many in the divine spark light fire purified Holy Spirit in eye of fire out womb next to two sleeping giants and a bottomless pit in the purple and gold state five stand as one known proclaimed three times over before he was born choosen before he was born for great suffering and before and during great suffering always staying true and just choose by God to be his compass out womb and in man born again in life without tasting death in Christ born again 18.1.24 judgement multiply once see perfect harmony in balance 369 with all in-laws above married the father known to the true virgin mother creator cause and effect given amnesty from law won't taste death seen beginnings from ends first became last last first out womb and in man born the untouchable living book twin or other half in one whole in one untouchable living one won't taste death the superman the hope for the man of understanding out womb Jeremy Michael middle name nickname Moezer at 3 speech impediment shorted to Moe and others man born again in life without tasting death Michael my God given name and five stand as one whole in one whole in one whole in one many M1911

  • @kaidenmunsey7380
    @kaidenmunsey7380 Рік тому +24

    I just wanted to say I love your channel! as someone studying for the priesthood it is an invaluable resource to have well-researched content on biblical age material outside the usual course catalog! You add a lot of academic as well as spiritual value to my life and I thank you for all the work you put in!

    • @alcabins2722
      @alcabins2722 9 місяців тому +3

      Have you read the entire Bible from front to back? I did and left the catholic church. Exodus 20 verse 4 changed my life. I never knew how un scriptural I was. I'm glad now to be a Bible believer

    • @ToucanSam12345
      @ToucanSam12345 7 місяців тому

      ​@@alcabins2722Bible is gay

    • @jaynesegman7847
      @jaynesegman7847 3 місяці тому

      awesome that you are studying for the priesthood. it will be rewardin g!

  • @MsKnowitall
    @MsKnowitall Рік тому +5

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  • @ingridcabreracederwall2192
    @ingridcabreracederwall2192 Рік тому +8

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  • @oulipolesceptique9449
    @oulipolesceptique9449 Рік тому +202

    Very much appreciate your professionalism in presenting different sources of and aspects of Christianity. I've left my church, but it seems I'm really only beginning to learn.

    • @qwertyJ94
      @qwertyJ94 Рік тому +10

      I've stopped going to church because I feel that the church is so restrictive in terms of worship..nothing wrong with it or against it. Just seeking more and delving deeper than what rhey do in church and to find my own way/form of worship through the teachings of Christ and the Bible.
      Funny enough, a friend told me about this gospel, I've already been shifting my mindset to God being present everywhere and in everything

    • @Phobos_Anomaly
      @Phobos_Anomaly Рік тому +6

      I learned more about Christianity since leaving it than I ever did as a devout evangelical.

    • @nrenre16
      @nrenre16 Рік тому +2

      This is not instead of the gospels. Believers of grace of Jesus Christ,
      Know the same knowledge, it’s continuing the teaching of Jesus.
      It’s exactly the teaching of grace, if you see Joseph Prince .
      You need Holy Spirit to see the truth.
      Find congregation with Holy Spirit to know the truth

    • @TheSulross
      @TheSulross Рік тому +6

      the core teachings of Thomas speak to what to me is the highest truth - that the Kingdom is within, that there is a connective thread of us each to the ultimate consciousness.
      Evil becomes explained as those that have become drunk and lost sight of their innate connection to the divine.

    • @johnsinclair2672
      @johnsinclair2672 Рік тому +2

      @@nrenre16 sadly Institutionalised Christianity, condemns St Thomas.
      Evangelicals will tell you you’re going to hell for uttering such words or thinking such thoughts.
      For me, St Thomas, and it’s synergy with the Dao de jin, made perfect sense of what otherwise is a totally ambiguous and misleading man contrived New Testament!

  • @leehporto255
    @leehporto255 9 місяців тому +7

    Looking at God's creation is the only way to truly know Him.. I've always observed nature, and life, the world and the universe, and saw God, for me, that always were God, He is everything.. this gospel made my soul warm.. it's beautiful.. a beautiful philosophy..

    • @Mike36555
      @Mike36555 Місяць тому +1

      Jesus literally said don't love the world. 💀

  • @muhammadfaizanjawed9307
    @muhammadfaizanjawed9307 Рік тому +20

    As usual an amazing and enlighthing video!
    Brother Filip Would love if you cover gospel of Barnabas and gospel of marry Magdalene as well.

  • @kylesty6728
    @kylesty6728 Рік тому +5

    Wonderful video as always. One lil nit pick, while the (seemingly) complete text was found in Coptic, we do also have the Oxyrhynchus papyrus fragments in Greek as a partial second text.
    Also, if you ever wanted to do a Part 2, delving into the meaning and controversies of the final saying would make for a fascinating video.

  • @barbaraolson6783
    @barbaraolson6783 Рік тому +11

    In the teaching as I was taught, gnostic means truth. The gnostics were believers of the true knowledge. Thomas was not subjected to the filter of politics, government and the church.

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 8 місяців тому +2

      lol Thomas didn't even write this "gospel" it was written in the late 2nd century, long after all the apostles had died out

    • @aliceinwonderland887
      @aliceinwonderland887 2 місяці тому +1

      @@tomtemple69 The original 1st century gospel of Thomas had been copied many times. The original was handed down during the late 2nd century. The copy that happened to surface that we have today just happened to be a copy from that time. There may be more copies out there.

  • @FraterRC
    @FraterRC Рік тому +4

    Outstanding and I can't believe I'd not heard of Wondrium, thanks Filip!

  • @ToniDJohns
    @ToniDJohns 8 місяців тому +1

    Wow! Just found your channel today. Fabulous learning. Thank you!

  • @modaud358
    @modaud358 Рік тому +5

    Thanks Filip! For a comprehensive contextual deep-dive into the Gospel of Thomas, I also recommend the works of Dr Samuel Zinner - specifically:
    1. "The Gospel of Thomas: In the Light of Early Jewish, Christian and Islamic Esoteric Trajectories" (first published 2010)
    2. "The Gospel of Thomas Sayings 1-19: Seeing God Through Exploring the Text" (2019 article available on his Academia page)

    • @holyleague8286
      @holyleague8286 Рік тому

      "In Gospel of Thomas" Jesus claime he is God(Allah)
      *Gospel Of Thomas Verse 77*
      Jesus says:
      (1) “I am the light that is over all. I am the All. The All came forth out of me. And to me the All has come.”
      (2) “Split a piece of wood - I am there.
      (3) Lift the stone, and you will find me there.”

  • @Hollylivengood
    @Hollylivengood Рік тому +10

    This is a big favorite in our family. Thank you.

  • @snakeeyes51
    @snakeeyes51 Рік тому +13

    David Brakke's vidoes on Gnostis is one of the most intresting things I've ever found on the internet. I really want to thank you Filip and Andrew from Religion for Breakfast for inspiring me to keep looking up all those awesome lectures.

    • @NightmareRex6
      @NightmareRex6 Місяць тому

      lets hope can obtain gnosis and not goto hell which really really ultimate terrable...... idk how a God of love can build a system where MOST WILL goto hell instead of a FEW, i understand free will but seems ppl can goto hell for the most petty of crap......

  • @ZubairKhan-vs8fe
    @ZubairKhan-vs8fe Рік тому +41

    I have learnt so much about all religions from you, including about my own.
    I like that your videos are objective and so well informed. Thank you

    • @jasonearls5985
      @jasonearls5985 5 місяців тому

      Did you though receive any knowledge or info about where to seek knowledge or just academic trivia? Knowing is seeing hearing touching feeling the facts of man's inner life.

  • @TimothyKirkby
    @TimothyKirkby Рік тому +105

    This gospel has been a great help for me in understanding that there have always been a lot of different manuscripts and to be able to let go of the idea that the bible itself was divinely inspired. Being raised strict evangelical Christian, it was a difficult road to take. Thank you for sharing this. I like how you have an open-minded approach and also consider different points of view. In the end, it will always be difficult to get a complete picture of when and by who all of the manuscripts were written.

    • @Pushing_Pixels
      @Pushing_Pixels Рік тому +12

      So many of the early followers of Jesus were persecuted and killed by other "Christians". Those persecutors are now the church, and those persecuted are now mostly forgotten.

    • @emilioalvarez8107
      @emilioalvarez8107 Рік тому +2

      As there is not a recorded Word of God, niether a single Word of Hi's own witting, nor God ever took the hand of anyone or dictated what to writte on the Bible by Faith we assume its Go's word however each book was written by Man no God. Moreover was the Catholic Church representing Christianity who made the choices. Particularly think or writting are authentic.

    • @bobbycecere1037
      @bobbycecere1037 Рік тому +5

      That's one way to look at it.
      Other people wrote books therefore this book is totally not inspired.

    • @fritula6200
      @fritula6200 Рік тому +10

      ALL THE WRITINGS OF THE BIBLE WERE GOD INSPIRED......

    • @fritula6200
      @fritula6200 Рік тому +3

      @@Pushing_Pixels ..... you have that wrong: The Early Christians, that is shortly after Jesus' death whole areas of the land conversations took place especially in Rome where persecutions took place committed by the pagans of the Roman Empire and the Jews:
      The Romans killed the Christians in their Amphitheatres and Arenas for blood sport: it was considered the Killings of Christians as a spectical and popular sport when they were mauled by animals: those who didn't die immediately, got dragged off into areas where they were later finished off by the Roman soldiers: this was a daily event, even twice daily, considered as a recreation.
      Also there were the persecutions of door to door hunting down Christians:
      Those persecuted are the Saints of the Roman Catholic Church, throughout history & today honoured as Martyrs: they died believing in the teachings of Jesus Christ: They died for their Faith.
      Read yr history and get yr FACTS AND NOT YR OPINION.

  • @user-hu8tw2ot3t
    @user-hu8tw2ot3t Рік тому +5

    i love seeing anything gnosticism. ty for spreading information about our beliefs and faith unbiased and just giving information. God bless phillip

    • @theguyver4934
      @theguyver4934 Рік тому

      Long live jewish\christianity and may its original teachings be preserved live on and be witnessed by all people and people will say things like we may not believe in Christianity but we like and respect it and we want to to prospure
      best regards from a Muslim line of ismail

  • @Scoinsoffaterocks
    @Scoinsoffaterocks Рік тому +18

    I really wish this was the version of Christianity that came to be popular.
    For one, salvation by understanding wisdom makes a whole lot more sense than "salvation by accepting that God sacrificed Himself to Himself."

  • @iesureloaded6139
    @iesureloaded6139 11 місяців тому +1

    Probably my favorite of the gnostics. Thanks for the video and links.

  • @TheELectricStylez
    @TheELectricStylez Рік тому +1

    I really like the way you present your topics!

  • @bhgardeners
    @bhgardeners Рік тому +8

    This makes a lot of sense especially in a philosophical way,which is what religion is if it functions properly.

  • @meinbherpieg4723
    @meinbherpieg4723 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for these insightful videos.

  • @wordawakeningny
    @wordawakeningny Рік тому +1

    Great teching Professor Holm. I thoroughly enjoyed it!

  • @joshschandoney5045
    @joshschandoney5045 19 днів тому

    One of the most rigorous, balanced, and grounded voices on the platform. So hard to to do on the subject of religion.
    🙏🙏🙏

  • @cheri238
    @cheri238 Рік тому +37

    The" Gospel of St. Thomas." Thank you. Incredible information to be reflective upon.

    • @kristenmoonrise
      @kristenmoonrise Рік тому

      Not to be confused with St. Thomas Aquinas.

    • @cheri238
      @cheri238 11 місяців тому

      ​@@kristenmoonrise
      I know, thank you

    • @ameanal-abij6415
      @ameanal-abij6415 Місяць тому

      You’re believing in a false Gospel.

  • @thomasgreen9454
    @thomasgreen9454 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for the video. Quite thought-provoking. Having watched this video, I feel emboldened to make the conjecture that aside from the theological differences between the Gospel of Thomas versus those of the canonical Gospels, one reason for rejection of the Gospel of Thomas from what evolved into mainstream Christianity is the idea that to know oneself is to know Christ leaves little if any room for mass control. In other words, Catholicism would not have flourished if people were more introspective. Both Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox Christianity were as much about political power, as any government past, present or future. Peter and Paul dictated their way to the masses. From what has been presented in this video, the Gospel of Thomas neither demands such dogmatic devotion, nor encourages others to pursue such blind devotion.

  • @tjiyandjeuakaatuua1623
    @tjiyandjeuakaatuua1623 Рік тому +1

    Thanx wondrium for sharing insight about the gospel of Thomas on this platform.

  • @tcl5853
    @tcl5853 Рік тому +1

    Outstanding presentation! Thank you!

  • @mybestfriendjesus8326
    @mybestfriendjesus8326 7 місяців тому +3

    The Gospel of Thomas consists of 114 sayings that Jesus expressed to Thomas. Two-thirds are analogous to the synoptic gospels. It is the book of Jesus’ proverbs.

  • @ReynaSingh
    @ReynaSingh Рік тому +14

    Fascinating video. Keep it up!

  • @demetrio3351
    @demetrio3351 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant work, it’s a great pleasure to be your subscriber, Dear Author
    Waiting for your new series

  • @BigJoe_MD
    @BigJoe_MD Рік тому +1

    This is so fascinating. Thanks for this video!

  • @mcpucho
    @mcpucho Рік тому +225

    The Gospel of Thomas is dripping with authenticity, both in historical context and in esoteric content.

    • @TheWorldTeacher
      @TheWorldTeacher Рік тому +10

      Because you were extant almost two millennia ago, correct? ;)

    • @threestars2164
      @threestars2164 Рік тому +17

      Don't be ridiculous, authenticity for Jesus would have been the Torah, not pagan ideas such as these.

    • @abdulmunim318
      @abdulmunim318 Рік тому +29

      @@threestars2164 So many viewpoints and narratives. Funny how 4 books managed to make it into the cannon and everything else was burnt and shunned away.

    • @jeroenky6038
      @jeroenky6038 Рік тому +3

      @@abdulmunim318 As you hear they don`t know the date of the writings of Thomas. They do know it from the other gospels. Besides that is the old testament speaking about our lord Jesus Christ.

    • @fam4449
      @fam4449 Рік тому

      @@threestars2164 "Sing to Hashem a new song." Tehillim 96:1

  • @davidmccarty6445
    @davidmccarty6445 Рік тому +14

    I've read the gospel of Thomas,at 3 times, I'm not a religious scholar but it seems to me,it makes sense

  • @user-ev6br5hs6n
    @user-ev6br5hs6n 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for this message possible

  • @AcrylicGoblin
    @AcrylicGoblin Рік тому

    Excellent survey of this most important text. Thanks man, great video.

  • @biorythmicshifter
    @biorythmicshifter Рік тому +3

    Through this gospel I finally got it. This is worthy of truth in my eyes.

  • @desi_patriot
    @desi_patriot Рік тому +12

    I'm deeply amazed. The gospel of Thomas has clear-cut similarities with the Hindu Vedanta

    • @sigma4777
      @sigma4777 3 місяці тому +1

      Because they come from the one and only God.

    • @jasonearls5985
      @jasonearls5985 3 місяці тому

      Let us share your vision, how is it so and what are the similarities, enrich us all?

    • @jasonearls5985
      @jasonearls5985 3 місяці тому

      ​@@sigma4777not everyone agrees, billions can express it.

    • @sigma4777
      @sigma4777 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jasonearls5985 And doesn't matter if everyone agrees.

    • @sigma4777
      @sigma4777 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jasonearls5985 Everyone never agrees on anything.

  • @ayushmaandey4665
    @ayushmaandey4665 Рік тому +1

    The Greek version is reconstructed somewhat in the Nag Hammadi Scriptures edited by Marivin Meyer(which you provided the link to).
    This is primarily based on the Oxyrhynchus papyri (1,654,655) and quotes of Hippolytus of Rome (Refutation of all Heresies 5.7.20, 5.8.32)
    I personally also like the Gospel of Truth, the Tripartite Tractate (Valentinian texts) and the Gospel of Philip

  • @Stereostupid
    @Stereostupid 7 місяців тому +5

    My favorite gospel... im so glad those boys found this masterpiece of sayings ! I wish they could find the rest of the gospel of Mary because that is really amazing also!!the gospel of Thomas has an Eastern Buddhist feel to it that i really like

    • @waynerichards2944
      @waynerichards2944 5 місяців тому +1

      Yes mate. I've just finished reading some Tibetan literature and it echoes the thoughts in Thomas.

  • @buddharuci2701
    @buddharuci2701 Рік тому +9

    Fillip, as you know, imbedded in the Acts of Thomas is The Hymn of the Pearl which I would love to hear you speak on. Well done! As always. Michael

  • @rubenangeliqueholguinlopez5819
    @rubenangeliqueholguinlopez5819 8 місяців тому +3

    Great insight just the fact that Thomas isn't in the Canon makes it more credible to me it really shows the mystical side of Jesus

  • @justinspacetime204
    @justinspacetime204 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this. Well done.
    🕊❤️🕊

  • @josephpotter2844
    @josephpotter2844 Рік тому

    Very fine work ,been watching a few of yer videos and they are superb

  • @michaeldunne338
    @michaeldunne338 Рік тому +39

    Great segment. Have always been interested in findings like those at Nag Hammadi and the Dead Sea since having the privilege to see an exhibit of the Dead Sea scrolls over a decade ago (in San Diego). Would welcome more videos that look at the "other Christianities" since they may have been more numerous than than believed. Also interested in how far back the Oriental Orthodox Churches go, in securing their own identities and organizations, employing languages like Syriac, Armenian, Gez and Coptic and Arabic. Like how likely was Syriac from the start the language of the liturgy of certain churches, sidestepping dependence on of Koine Greek translations (and Hellenistic interpretation, since Aramaic was a lingua franca of the Near East, like Koine)...?

  • @mpdunphy
    @mpdunphy Рік тому +4

    Some scholars have suggested that both Thomas and the synoptic gospels reference a common source, referred to as Q. I was a bit surprised not to hear anything about this in your video, as you usually give a very thorough treatment of your subjects.

  • @andrzejrowicki8655
    @andrzejrowicki8655 Рік тому +1

    Thank You for all Your lectures.

  • @Darisiabgal7573
    @Darisiabgal7573 Рік тому +1

    This is a great extraction of Thomas

  • @emiliamartucci8291
    @emiliamartucci8291 Рік тому +4

    Thank you. I have a better sense of the main core belief of Gnosticism now. Other “explainers” are so confusing.

  • @raymond5681
    @raymond5681 Рік тому +9

    Gospel of Thomas is very wonderful

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 8 місяців тому

      too bad is illegitimate and not written by Thomas

    • @nicojohncervano7690
      @nicojohncervano7690 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@tomtemple69Like every other book in the bible.

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 7 місяців тому +1

      @@nicojohncervano7690 lol tell me you know nothing abou history without actually telling me
      you're partially right, Thomas never wrote any books in the bible
      the 66 book canon has been authenticated by the early church, the old testament was compiled 200 years before Jesus was born

  • @farukh6436
    @farukh6436 Рік тому +1

    Hello Mr.Filip, I have watched many of your works (videos) and thouroughly enjoy them. I learned a lot and deeply appreciate for sharing your knowledge with us.
    I always wanted to ask you about something (it may sound ridiculous). Are you, in any way, related to Christian Bale (well known actor)? I hope you will answer this question.

  • @DivineSource444
    @DivineSource444 3 місяці тому +1

    This was amazing. Thank you! ❤

  • @saulrobertson3789
    @saulrobertson3789 11 місяців тому +9

    My favourite line in the gospel is: “Blessed is the lion that becomes man when consumed by man, and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes and the lion yet becomes man”
    I think there are hints of the passion and the resurrection in this particular saying

    • @AnonymousStruggler
      @AnonymousStruggler 10 місяців тому +2

      Jordan Peterson talks about this verse in his video the Logos when he says either the battle will be within ourselfs or outside. If inside we will grow (the human who ate the lion) if we choose outside (lion who ate the human) we will crash and burn

    • @Bundpataka
      @Bundpataka Місяць тому

      @@AnonymousStrugglerJordan Peterson knows nothing about Christian theology or biblical scholarship beyond what suits his right wing agenda

  • @thescoobymike
    @thescoobymike Рік тому +5

    My favorite Gospel!

  • @fAhdbaLLaHo
    @fAhdbaLLaHo Рік тому

    Thanks there is a channel like this. Very informative 🥸

  • @ready1fire1aim1
    @ready1fire1aim1 Рік тому +1

    Great video! Would love to see a video discussing the Samaritan Chronicle!

  • @mattzeigler110
    @mattzeigler110 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for your videos and channel, brilliant. I am a non dualist & this is a non dualist text. It simply has its culture and regions flavor.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  Рік тому +2

      I'd be careful to use words like "non-dual" too generously, as we can easily end up anachronizing. But the text certainly has immanentist or even monist themes.

    • @mattzeigler110
      @mattzeigler110 Рік тому +1

      @@LetsTalkReligion for a academic perhaps, but not for an actual non dualist. A Sufi would say you academically understand sufism, but you're certainly no Sufi.

    • @schorpioen7466
      @schorpioen7466 Рік тому

      What's a non dualist?

  • @alkhan6704
    @alkhan6704 Рік тому +4

    Many gospels were omitted by politicians of the time

  • @edward9674
    @edward9674 Рік тому

    Thank you for the fascinating video!

  • @mikecardona5684
    @mikecardona5684 Рік тому

    Great work as always my friend.

  • @georgewahl2498
    @georgewahl2498 10 місяців тому +4

    seek and you shall find...

  • @raymondobeukes3624
    @raymondobeukes3624 Рік тому +3

    Fascinating stuff!

  • @frankfolino3118
    @frankfolino3118 6 місяців тому

    Thank you Sir!

  • @Daewonnni
    @Daewonnni 7 місяців тому +1

    This video was really helpful. As a evangelical, I’ve always wondered about this, but never knew what was in the gospel of Thomas. I can see why this gospel led to mysticism and dualism, thus rejected. But a good compliment to the cannon if it was included.

    • @Bundpataka
      @Bundpataka Місяць тому

      It sounds non-dualistic to me, which may be part of why scholars may be hesitant to group it with more dualistic gnostic traditions

  • @Nickjames87
    @Nickjames87 Рік тому +6

    Love Learning about this stuff

  • @lynnekelley7545
    @lynnekelley7545 Рік тому +4

    This is a video which bears watching a couple times and taking note. While I feel intelligent enough to understand the basic premises and proposed explanation, there were a few parts I was dwelling on and didn't hear your assessment. But, thank you for making this relatively understandable.

    • @karenrich9092
      @karenrich9092 Рік тому

      Your name seems unique to me. My name was Karen Lynne Kelley before I married. Can you reply to me?

    • @lynnekelley7545
      @lynnekelley7545 Рік тому

      @@karenrich9092 My middle name is Marie. My last name at birth was Jarzembowski. Because I wanted my clients and peers to have an easier time askiing for me, it was legally changed 40+ years ago to Kelley, my mother's family name.
      Enjoy your weekend 😊

  • @user-ev6br5hs6n
    @user-ev6br5hs6n 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you 🙏 for making it possible

  • @Zakleo888
    @Zakleo888 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for a fair and good review.

  • @deirdrelewis1454
    @deirdrelewis1454 9 місяців тому +3

    This is mystical insight and language. It may be gnostic in origin but similar insights can be found for example in St Paul. These sayings resonate with the teachings of St Francis

  • @joecaner
    @joecaner Рік тому +39

    (108) Jesus said, "He who will drink from my mouth will become like me. I myself shall become he, and the things that are hidden will be revealed to him."
    ― Gospel of Thomas

    • @seal9390
      @seal9390 Рік тому +6

      Too bad the gospel of Thomas is not reliable.

    • @joecaner
      @joecaner Рік тому

      ​@@seal9390 It's too bad that the 27 books of the canonical bible are really no more reliable because none of them were written by people claiming to be eye witnesses to the events they chronicle, and they were first identified by a fallible man named Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria in the 4th century CE in his annual Easter letter to his churches dated Jan. 7, 367.

    • @Pushing_Pixels
      @Pushing_Pixels Рік тому +17

      @@seal9390 How would you know?

    • @seal9390
      @seal9390 Рік тому

      @@Pushing_Pixels Because its a 2nd century non canon gospel writen in syriac by Gnosticism.

    • @Pushing_Pixels
      @Pushing_Pixels Рік тому

      @@seal9390 "Canon" is meaningless. Whether or not a handful of religious leaders thought some books were better than others says nothing about their real value. Also, what does "written by Gnosticism" mean? It's not like there was a Gnostic church and they were writing "fake" Christian texts to deceive people. That's just nonsense.

  • @lennyvlaminov9480
    @lennyvlaminov9480 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting, nice presentation, thank you!

  • @tropicalstrings
    @tropicalstrings Рік тому +1

    Thomas was in south india very early.
    Thats why in 325ad his writings where not there.
    Thank you very much.
    I see you play the lute. Theorbe?
    A beautifull music instrument.

  • @thomasmacginnes100
    @thomasmacginnes100 6 місяців тому +3

    If anyone cannot grasp the spiritual truth delivered to an inquiring people as Presented in “The Gospel of Thomas” ! very little else can be said for any edification to them.

  • @Calenrandir
    @Calenrandir 10 місяців тому +7

    Imagine a world where the Gospel of Thomas was included in the New Testament...

    • @jasonearls5985
      @jasonearls5985 3 місяці тому

      No I want you to do that as you have read it, tell us how the world would be different.

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for the video.

  • @VidBint
    @VidBint Рік тому +11

    Honestly, it’s these interpretations that make Christianity make absolute & perfect sense to me & I can now embrace it

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 8 місяців тому +2

      That's exactly what Satan wanted

    • @VidBint
      @VidBint 8 місяців тому +3

      @@tomtemple69 I bet you never ever expected to hear this but you’re absolutely correct!!! Not long after making that comment, I went into an Orthodox Church on Holy Monday. That day I was confronted with the real presence of God so intensely that the Holy Spirit drop-kicked the Gnosticism right outta me!!! I stopped wearing my crystal bracelets, got rid of all my New Age stuff & now I am in the process of being a catechumen & I’ve been attending church faithful for nearly 4 months! God is so Good & I can’t get over how He never gave up on me, even when I was so lost!! He truly is The Good Shepherd! 🙇🏻‍♀️☦️💖

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 8 місяців тому +1

      @@VidBint you are one of the fortunate few who was willing to put aside their pride and submit to God, sad thing is we are a very tiny minority, narrow is the gate to heaven and few find it

  • @dundee1080
    @dundee1080 Рік тому +108

    By far one of my all time favourite books. Just a gem of a read!

    • @lancetschirhart7676
      @lancetschirhart7676 Рік тому +1

      Doubtful. Its incomprehensible to all

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 8 місяців тому +5

      Galatian 1: But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!

    • @frankgeary7574
      @frankgeary7574 3 місяці тому

      What book?

  • @glenndespres5317
    @glenndespres5317 Рік тому

    Best books on GOT are “The Hidden Gospel of Thomas: Commentaries on the Non-Dual Sayings of Jesus” Kindle Edition
    by William G. Duffy (Author) and “Closing the Circle: Pursah's Gospel of Thomas and a Course in Miracles Kindle Edition
    by Rogier Fentene Van Vlissingen (Author)

  • @jonathaneffemey944
    @jonathaneffemey944 Рік тому

    Thanks so much for posting

  • @charlesmcgilton9591
    @charlesmcgilton9591 7 місяців тому +4

    I was in a coma I visited heaven when I came back I read the gospel of Thomas daily for over a year now.

  • @josephvigil2250
    @josephvigil2250 Рік тому +6

    Awesome job, all your output is high quality but this one on Thomas is already one of my favorites. Thomas was a live document just like the other gospels. Some of it is independent and older, some of it is canonical gospel redaction. But what's important is that the Gospel of Thomas teaches nonduality. These Wisdom teachings cut away the unimportant mythos, they concentrate on what's important - the Truth about the Kingdom.

    • @threestars2164
      @threestars2164 Рік тому

      What? No, it doesn't.

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 8 місяців тому

      Paul warns against such things :in Galatians 1: But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!
      The gospel of Thomas is illegitimate, ask any biblical scholar worth their salt and they'll tell u that, it was written over a century after Jesus had ascended, while the original gospels were written just a few decades after Jesus had ascended
      Gospel of Thomas was written by someone who never saw Jesus or any of the apostles

  • @eeydabez2169
    @eeydabez2169 Рік тому +1

    The apostles were all interesting and unique individual and real human beings, and their personalities greatly colored their works as they spread out in the turmoil of the time to the four corners of the earth and fulfilled the life's mission Jesus had asked of them. The Gospel of Thomas is entirely in line with the character of Thomas described in the Urantia Book.

  • @carsonwieker
    @carsonwieker Рік тому +1

    Love it, thanks for sharing.

  • @NarenLumpkin
    @NarenLumpkin 5 місяців тому +4

    Thomas being the twin of Lord Jesus Christ is pre awakened, and therefore eternal.❤❤❤

  • @shirostateira6988
    @shirostateira6988 5 місяців тому

    Gnosticism has grown and developed so much. I grew up within a school of modern Gnosticism and I was never taught about the demiurge. That is mentioned briefly but we study the Gospel of Thomas more heavily. We also are taught about the Gospel of mary. I feel like I'm learning about my ancestry in a sense xD

  • @MattO109
    @MattO109 Рік тому +1

    Can u make a video about Mormonism (LDS) ? very curious about that religion. Great video!

  • @eftixismeni2010
    @eftixismeni2010 9 місяців тому +6

    I’m not a religious person, but I definitely had a mystical experience/near death experience and this exact knowledge was relayed to me through that experience. I would have no way of knowing any of this information as I have never truly read the Bible or any other gospels. Somehow I was initiated onto this path, and was given access to this knowledge. It’s unfortunate that this gospel is excluded from main stream Christianity. I have no doubt that, if in fact, Jesus were to appear in person, not recognizable to main stream Christians, they would be the first to persecute and execute him. When you try to raise awareness of these teachings, the Bible thumpers come, knocking on your door and attack you. I feel very blessed to have been chosen to receive this knowledge and wisdom, and I do my best to share it with others, even if I am criticized or condemned.

    • @Bojan12
      @Bojan12 3 місяці тому

      I am here with you