Sold My a7IV For The a7CII - A New HYBRID KING?
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- Опубліковано 5 лис 2023
- After two years of owning the a7IV as my main workhorse, it was time for a change. Overall, I'm pretty stoked on the a7CII.
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Dont you miss the joystick when shooting stills?
That’s definitely something I missed in this video and yeah it’s a big one. I can see a lot of people being bothered by it (I was at first) but using the Q2 has made me more accustomed to not having a joystick
I pulled the trigger and ordered a A7cII yesterday as i really like the small form factor and the updates compared to the A7IV. Listed my A7IV for sale yesterday as well. Looking forward to the mail on monday or tuesday more likely. 😀
whats your main way of making focus wtih a7c2 now i have it also, never used a joystick bnefore tho @@JonnyRoams
@@PuReXtremeGaming the d pad can be set to change focus! Either that or I’ll set it to tracking if I’m shooting a subject
Always love seeing the 55 1.8 in the wild. Been using that lens for years and still in love with it!
Love your landscape photography in cinematic aspect ratio in this video.
Coming from a A6400 I picked up a ZVE10 with a 9 shutter count for £350, for my content creation work, and was so hooked on getting the A7IV for my professional work, also with the joystick, but seeing this has sparked a new interest, also being a lover of vintage cameras the silver is a breath of fresh air, and you have actually switched me from the a7iv to getting a A7Cii, so the joystick is not an issue since coming from A6400 and funny enough its cheaper so win win! amazing video and work, just subscribed and excited to binge more of your content!
Great video. Ton of valuable information.
Great video mate, was tossing up between the A7iv and the A7cii as our hybrid shooter and think i'm swaying towards the A7cii. Much smaller form factor and more features, seems like a no brainer as it's cheaper!
Thanks for this. I've been thinking aboit upgrading my A7RII for a while now and now I shoot a lot ot video this seems like an ideal upgrade as i still want to keep decent resolution for photos.
Great Video. I've been thinking of upgrading from aps-c Sony ZV-e10 to Full Frame. I use the sigma 16mm f1.4 pretty much all the time because of the focal length.
What lens would you suggest that won't break the bank, but give me a clean image for video and a blurry background at or around the same focal length? I like to punch in when I ediet my video to show close-ups of safety razors going across my face. Very critical that it's as crisp as possible. One of the reasons why I want to jump into full frame with 10bit 4.2.2 just to get a little sharper image. Think this camera might be perfect for me.
I do a podcast that goes sometimes two hours so the ZV- e1 is out due to overheating. Which is a shame because that is the same body. My current camera is using.
Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated?
Nice video. It's interesting to hear reasons to get the A7c II other than the ones you have yourself (oneself I mean), I recently sold my A9 because while I really enjoyed its AF and operational speed and Z-batteries (my other camera is an a7rii) and very viable e-shutter I could not fit it in a jacket pocket (with a small lens) (unlike say an A6000) and I never utilized the blackout free continuous. My main reason for purchasing the A7C ii (which is more expensive than the A7iv here) is the physical shape, a secondary one is more AF recognition modes (if not better AF overall perhaps), some more resolution with kinda the same low light capabilities and lossless compressed. I had never considered aspect ratio visibility in camera : )
I really like the design of A7C II, especially when u added that SmallRig 🙃
Great video my friend! 📸 I sold my original a7C to upgrade to the Mark ii 2 weeks ago and yes it is amazing! 10 bit 422 video, S-Cinetone, better auto-focus, AI chip, and front dial to control my aperture OHHHH and I almost forgot the boost in resolution from 24 to 33MP!!! 😎📸👍🏻
I've been waiting to see someone pair the silver baseplate on the silver camera, wanted to see what it looked like. THANK YOU, it looks awesome and feels like the best way to add just enough while maintaining the compact size (and the cool dual tone flair)!
You’re welcome! It matches so well it’s almost as if it was made by Sony!
How much does it weight together with the baseblate? It feels like it's going to be close to Sony A7 IV
@@letvca 514g + 62g = 576g vs 658g, it's still very lightweight and allows for example hand strap.
@@dominikmervart thank you
I went exactly this way and happy with it
I've missed my a7iv so much since I sold it but finally got myself an A7Cii after waiting for local stock to arrive. I'd say it's one of the best compact cams for photo and video that can be used as a pro cam as well.
Made the same move and I’m super happy with the A7CII!!
A7cii gang!
I also sold my a7iv for the a7cii and never looked back. This was a huge improvement for me as I mostly shoot on my travels.
Hi! Are you happy with your a7cii after a7iv
I’d love to get the A7CII but I shoot mostly portraits in China usually with lots of bokeh so the limitations of the mechanical shutter scare me…
I absolutely love my A7C II. For now the 24-105G rides on it full time but will be adding a prime and the Tamron 70-180 G2 down the road.
Also I’m only doing photography. I may consider video if I get a7c but with a7iii, never thought about it
same here, I prefer the size. I think the most important factor is that I am not using it for work, just for entertainment. I did notice a7cii heat up easily compared to a7iv.
Ergonomics, 2SD slots, lack of customisable function buttons and a better EVF lost it for me. As a videographer, the flimsy micro HDMI is another no no for me. Specs are great tho! wish they did more with it for being a camera in 2023. Keeping my a7IV probably for the next a7V or A7SIV.
Definitely not a camera for videography if you can only afford just one body
sad readin that, i still got it for videography as my mian, coz its same as the a7iv so?@@JonnyRoams
@@JonnyRoams What would you recommend for one body for vidéo?
A7siii if you're doing just video. A7iv if you're doing lots of both.@@d_cl
Agree. It was a super hard decision, and the form factor alone almost did it for me, but the A7IV isn’t THAT much heavier (like 100g) and it just feels better to use, all technical aspects aside.
Very thankful for such beautiful explanation!!! Can you help me with choosing between Sony A7c2 and Sony Fx30? I want a hybrid camera, with less overheating issues and main purpose is creating travel reel videos and photographs. 4k 60 fps is must.
Can you help? I have around 2k budget and my initial idea is to buy the a6700 + 35mm 1.4 GM (FE) i can get both at around 2,2k.
Would you get the a6700 which is croped but full of new great features, or the old a7c? Which I can buy at the same price as the first a7c?
I like your 55 1.8 setup. Which step up ring size and filter did you use? I heard Polar Pro and Mist but didn’t catch the rest.
Cinematic aspect ratio for photography is a neat idea
I have owned the A7IV since its release. I think the case of the CII is much nicer. I really like the look. If it were just based on the looks of the camera, that would sell my a7IV. I take a lot of photos using the viewfinder and the viewfinder of the CII is not good, and I would have liked the functional display of the A7RV. They could have brought both. Now I'm waiting for the A7V.
That silver plate looks FANTASTIC, I truly hated the silver one until I saw that small plate giving it a touch of color symmetry
Aye I was on the fence too but glad I went with silver!
Hated ! Wow.
Great vid mate. I can’t find how to get the 2.35:1 aspect ratio on my a7cr. Do you know where the setting is?
hey, I have a question for you because I heard that the Sony a7c ii is "more plastic" than the first version a7c, something like the zv e1. Does this only apply to the black version or is the silver version also made of the same material as the black one?
Does A7CII get overheat while filming? If yes after how many minutes? How long the battery life can handle?
Does this camera replace your Q2? Or do you use it along side the Q2 for different purposes?
Seeing at first a7cii + zeiss 55 - great combo - wish to have 2slots + joystick, better viewfinder and that's a fantastic combo! better than rest of cameras..Great choice
Replaced my A7IV with the A7C II too, very very happy with that decision.
Heck yes!
Actually in my country A7C-II is the same price as A7IV with cashback. But... for me everything that came up in A7C-II wins over what that camera doesn't have (faster card, better EVF, etc.). It's like mini A7RV and I accept that.
Bro!! I just got the a7cii and the only problem I had was grip was too small but not by much. That being said i love everything about the camera & didn’t want to add a large grip adaptor and seeing your base plate it looks like the perfect/fix solution.
What about the max 1/4000 shutterspeed when using wide aperture primes? do you always need to use a nd filter?
Love the colors on this video. What picture profile did you use and do you have a lut for this look that will work with S Log 2? I only have the A7C
The profiles are just customizable. But I film in slog3 sgamut3.cine - my LUTs will yield similar results as long as you convert to rec709 before hand!
How do you access the aspect ratio bars? And do you know if this option is also on the A7cr too?
Thanks
Awesome video bro! I’d have a A7CII in a heart beat…it had a bigger view finder. Just need it for weddings and such. Will wait for that A7V 🙏
Aye honestly looking forward to the a7V!
But you can put a external monitor on, and have twice resolution on what you are shooting, no need EVF.
@@pentagramyt417but you can’t really shoot photos at weddings with an external monitor 😅😂 not with two cameras in anycase
I sold my Fuji X2 which I loved for form factor and regretted it. I too own the a7IV and have contemplated the same move but to the R model. AND THEN…the a79 III blow us all away! Now we want global shutter in a7C R and I’m on it!
The R model definitely intrigued me!
I own a Sony A7iv already and have been looking for a B cam once I have sold my Sony A7iii. I was looking to grab the Sony A7R V to have along side my A7iv. However, I'm loving the look and small body form factor of the Sony A7c ii. I think thanks to your video I'm loving the look of the small rig silver add on. I'm now leaning more towards the Sony A7c ii as I will not need to purchase a second CF Express type A card for the Sony A7R V and I would save more money by having the Sony 7C ii along side the Sony A7iv coupled with at least another new prime lens with the money I'd save. What are your thoughts ?
I think paring the a7iv with the cii is a great choice especially if it allows you to invest into more glass!
I mainly use big zoom lenses and thought i would need a bigger body/deeper grip (a7iv) but ended up walking out of the camera store with the A7CII, not disappointed at all.
How do you like the A7CII 3 months later? Ever do any video work on it?
honestly i love the rangefinder style sony cameras, wish they make more, and the joystick doesn't really bother me since i dont really use it, while i can also use the screen to act as a joystick
Got an a7Cii as well and am eyeing that 70-180 as well. Do you have a video review?
Mine's coming in a few days! Yay no more sticking gaffer tape on the screen to compose cinemascope photos.
A ciencia de cor dela é melhor do que a da A7iv? Mesmo compartilhando o mesmo sensor de 33MP.
Is its color science better than A7iv's? Even sharing the same 33MP sensor.
I really want the a7c ii because if the ai stuff but the a7iv has 2 sd card slots and "better viewfinder". I just don't know what to do. Wish the A7C II had 2 sd card slots... Is there a work around?
How’s the battery life compared to the original A7c?
Man we have the same setup, a7cii and 55 1.8. Thinking of upgrading to the new 50 1.4 gm. Should i do it?
I recently sold my a7iv, and i'm orbitating towards the a7cii, my only reason to hesitate is that crop factor in 4k 60fps...
Can you send the link of the grip? It's beautiful
This is very helpful. I am thinking to upgrade my a7iii which I have been using for 5 years now. I am confused between a7cii and a7iv but I think I would lean towards a7cii since it's light weight
2 cards slots and a larger EFV make the difference for more professional work
Does it overheat more than a7iv since its a smaller form factor
Jealous of that Leica. One of the big reasons I got the A7C II is because it's like a Sony version of the Leica. Whilst also being able to shoot incredible video whenever I need it to.
Agreed. As much as I love the Leica, I’ve found myself reaching for the a7CII more often lately. Appreciate you stopping by mate!
i just got the 55 zeiss 1.8 also recetnly second hand for a expensive price and i have been LOVING it on this cam too, like almost more then the 24-70 gm2. (and oddly enough it might be clearer and sharperr?! (no way im actually saying that compared to a gmaster zoom lol) ???
what watch are you wearing in the video?
Did the same thing. Sold my A7IV for the A7Cii and I'm loving the more compact version of the A7IV. 😀
What lenses are you using? Do your a7iv lenses feel bulky on a7cii?
@@amandeepanand9972 my main lens for video is the 16-35mm f/4 PZ. Doesn’t feel bulky. Now I also use the Sony 24-70 GM II and the Tamron 70-180mm for photos. Those feel bulky on the A7cii 🙂
Literally did this today! Best decision ever
I have just got the Fuji xe1 with the 35mm 1.4, amazing quality. With my gr3 and gr3x I'm all set.
Hi Jonny, I know this would be a guess, but working with this camera, do you think this camera would be as good tracking a motorcycle as it does your Jeep? I am currently a Fuji shooter and I am struggling with autofocus especialy when the bike is coming towards or away from camera. Oh and how's the focus between the FX30 and A7c ii?
I’m confident this will be a lot better than your Fujifilm! The new AI autofocus isn’t perfect but it’s VERY close
@@JonnyRoams Well anything is better than Fuji for autofocus...which is a shame because the rest of the camera is great. Cheers keep it up.
How is it for bokeh??? Would it be a good camera to shoot portraits in China?
Hey, can someone that owns the A7Cii tell me what MB size ranges the 3 Lossless Compressed sizes are when it comes to brackets?
Could someone fire a quick test? Shoot 3 brackets 2 stops apart with the Lossless Compressed L, M, and S and tell me those numbers?
Good video. I’ve also been split between the A74 and A7cii for photography. But you didn’t mention in the video that you mostly use the screen, not the EVF. For me as a photographer I use the EVF most of the time, and the A7cii’s EVF is just not good, especially for a body in 2023. It could have been the Leica Q killer if that EVF was as good.
Hows your jurney going with the a7cii? I would love to see another video reciew after some months of use!
It came to an end as much as I loved it I’ve move my photos entirely to the Leica Q3. Still a fantastic camera though!
Great content. If you were to buy a camera today, would you purchase an fx3, Canon R6 Mark 2, or Zv-e1 for vlog/doc content or any other suggestions
ZV-E1 and I’d pair it with the tamron 20-40 or 20mm G. Can’t go wrong with
@@JonnyRoams Thanks. Do you enjoy your Sony fx3
@@MODESTYXO205 oh yes I love it! Sometimes I do feel it’s overkill for even my needs - I had the fx30 for half a year which always does call me back
@@JonnyRoams Thanks for the speedy reply. I'm looking at the Sony fx3 for long-form content. Other than that, the zve1 is a solid camera. I'm still undecided 😆
i didnt even sell mine! i just returned it in the box, straight for the a7c2 lol
Love Sony A7CII
How is the EVF? I went from the original A7c to the A7iv because of the horrible EVF. Not sure if the increased magnification stacks up. Is it worth going back?
I’m probably not the best person to ask this as I don’t use the EVF much, it’s fine for my needs. But definitely small.
@@JonnyRoams thanks 🙏
Very bad EVF on the CII
Such a great video, Its hard shooting canon still knowing all this dope sony cameras are coming out hahaha.
what picture profile did you use on this video?
S Log 3 Sgamut3.cine
@@JonnyRoams thankyou
I'm still very confused on whether to pick A7IV or A7CII I'm moving from APS-C to my first full frame and can only buy one. I love the form factor and the design of the A7Cii but I can't decide if the lack of dual SD card slot is a big enough reason to pick one over the other. Probably one of the most important decisions in my career(I'm still in my early career). I need advice as I am going to do professional photoshoots.
A7IV.
A7IV or V for professional use. These smaller AC is really for people who intend to travel with and still want a lighter body.
A7IV if ur going professional. The extra buttons, dual cards, full hdmi and larger evf and grip will go a long way. Not to mention better cooling due to bigger body will help a lot in longer shoots.
I returned the A7C II after thinking about how I would use the camera in favor of the A7R V. I do agree it is a better, more well rounded hybrid camera. But, I already have the A7C. The AI tracking would be nice but Sony has nailed focus for many years. So, for me, I just want all the megapixels. I rarely shoot video on my big camera anyway - opting for my smartphone instead (yeah, I know). My smartphone (iPhone 14 Pro Max) is my push for the A7R V since it is "good enough" for most cases, so I need a big camera worthy of the effort of getting all that stuff out and lugging it around - 61mp does that for me. I normally shoot landscape and will dabble with astro-landscape once I figure out how to setup my star tracker.
Thank you, Does a7cii have better stabilization than a7iv?
Hi yes it is slightly better than the a7iv (7 stops vs 5 stops)
The new riggg
Yessiiir
Hi, Do you have link for the silver baseplate? Thanks!
Yep there is one in the description!
What about the new menus? I have Fujifilm gear right now and the menus are great but I’ve heard horror stories about Sony menus. What do you say? Thanks
I really like the current Sony menus. The old gen cameras like the a7iii were dated but the new ones are great
Regrets selling A7 iv ?
As a professional this is a no go, 1 card slot with added video overheating, hate the ergonomics too, for a travel camera it's great
How’s the battery life compared to the A74? I got the new Zve1 and it guzzles through batteries!
Pretty comparable I’d say! Just got back from a weekend shooting and did it all on one battery with about 60gb of footage
For me small not always means better, the A7iv has already a very compact body, the cii it’s too small for me, also the lack of 2 cards slot, a worse evf, a micro hdmi and lack of customisable buttons it’s a no no, as a professional I wouldn't use a camera with only one card slot. For who has only one body and already has an a7 iv i don’t justify the change, you gain certain things with the cii but loose others which for me are more important than a slightly better autofocus and questionable smaller form factor
So many professionals have and still use cameras with one card slots, that’s not the end all be all you make it seem to be 😂 like I said, it’s not for everyone. But it’s more than just slightly better autofocus
How does the 20-40 tamron compare to the 17-50mm?
20-40 is better in terms of quality, obviously shorter focal range but the 17-50 has a very strong vignette at 17mm
3:29 what backpack is that mate?
Wandrd PRVKE 31L!
Can you share a link to the grip you mentioned in the video?
added to the description!
@@JonnyRoams thanks!!
What camera did you use to this UA-cam video?
FX3
I would like to replace my a7iv for the a7cii, but i think double sd cards are vital to any professional scenario :/
nope
I disagree, if one fails what is to stop the other from failing? Never had an issue in my 10 years of shooting
@@JonnyRoamswhile I don’t care much for dual cards. Mine are set to series, not parallel. I think that’s a terrible argument. You’re thought about sd card failure assumes it’s the cameras fault. Both SD cards are probably different ages, different life/usage cycles etc which can cause each to fail independently.
What’s better, this or the Q2?
Hard question tbh! This is an excellent hybrid, the Q2 is one of the best photo cameras I’ve ever used. If I could only choose one, id take the a7cii because I could still do excellent video.
Could you share the link to the plate ?
It’s in the description! 🤝🏼
Aside from a smaller form factor, it’s a downgrade from a A7iv but since you have a FX3, it’s not really a loss.
Kind of. I put a huge value in the improved AI autofocus. If you can overlook the flaws in the viewfinder and ergonomics, I think it’s better than the a7iv. But to each their own
Honestly, I have been considering the C series since the first. I am currently using an A7R III so its getting on a bit, over 6 years old. It still takes wonderful photo but i'm looking for something just a touch newer. The choice really has boiled down to the A7IV or A7CII because they are both 10 bit capable (unlike A7R IV) and I'm not one to have two cameras. I just don't think I can accept having one memory card slot. I've personally had an SD card fail (luckily nothing was on it) but a friend had hers fail and lose a LOT of pics after a holiday. I might be ok if the A7C II supported CFexpress which are far less likely to fail, but all the time its SD I want 2 slots.
Hi. Why not the A7CR?
@@magnusasmussen9452 worse sensor, 42mp in my A7R III was already pushing things in low light. 64mp just has tiny little pixels and I would never need that kind of resolution
All I keep hearing is that the EVF is poor, what is your honest opinion?
Definitely a weak point, but personally I don’t use it much with this camera as it’s more of a quick snap store so I just use the screen
How bad is the evf?
Quality is good it’s just quite small
A7cii over the zv-e1?
Hmm those are two vastly different and would depend on your use case. Primarily video the zve1 for sure. But if you want a hybrid the a7cii wins
hmm. overheating issues?
I have my fx3 for long filming but for run and gun stuff I’ve had no issues with heat
👍
sync speed of 1/160 is a bit slow compared to 1/250 on the a7iv and 1/4000 max shutter speed vs 1/8000 in bright sunlight with flash is just too slow in 2023. i really wish they would have been the same
Yeah I wish I talked about the shutter speed in this video that’s definitely something I’ve noticed become more of an issue for me
@@JonnyRoamscan you make maybe a short video elaborating on this and how it affects you? Thanks
pretty tough competition in the Lumix S5ii
You "acquired" an FX3?
Acquire
Verb
To buy or obtain (an asset or object) for oneself.
@@JonnyRoams yes, that is the definition of the word. But not an explanation.
@@AsparagusVideo this isn’t an fx3 video what kind of explanation are you expecting
@@JonnyRoams You're getting defensive just from me asking. That's weird.
@@AsparagusVideo I don’t think you know what you’re saying 😂😂
Wth is going on Sony no flash on these cameras forcing me to go Fuji v100x
Idk why but I just ordered the base plate. I don’t even own this camera yet
Ok I own it now
Your closeup cam looks weird bro like it's blurry.
Not sure what you mean by close up cam but the video clear as day, so something up on your end mate
It's a lovely camera but one card slot....
The Leica Q line also has one card slot
I would personally have one of each.
Not a bad choice
@@JonnyRoamsHave a blessed weekend.
If I need this I got this camera, if I need this I got this other camera... Mmm
You good?
A7CII is still cropped at 4k60, and the a6700 (half the price) isn’t..
a6700 is a crop sensor so it’s already cropped
You just made the biggest mistakes. What if tomorrow Sony decides to include the AI and other corrections in A74 with firmware updates?
I know for a fact they can’t because it’s an AI processor, so it’s hardware limitations. Not something that they can add with a firmware update.
@@JonnyRoams ok 👍.
But, I still believe it is possible.