(SEP 2022) X-Plane 11 vs X-Plane 12 | Graphics and Sound Comparison
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
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In this comparison video, all I am going to show you is the difference between X-Plane 11 and X-Plane 12 (Early Access) when it comes to graphics and sound. I am not comparing anything else in this video be it mods, systems, completion of the sim, ATC, etc. Both were run in 4K resolution at the maximum or close to maximum on the settings.
THIS IS NOT A COMPARISON TO MSFS 2020.
NOTE: Some jerks or sequences of glitching may be visible in some clips due to the nature of the capture software used, I apologize. Yesterday it work great until mid-afternoon when it stopped working properly.
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MODS in X-Plane 11
Active Sky
MisterX Runway & Taxiway Textures
FlyWithLUA
HeadShake
Others that do not affect Visual or Audio effects.
MODS in X-Plane 12
None that affect Visual or Audio effects.
-----------------------Hardware Specifications------------------------
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core
64GB DDR4 3200 RAM
1 Samsung Pro 960 M.2 SSD 1TB
1 Samsung Pro 960 SATA SSD 500GB
1 Western Digital 7,200RPM HDD 1TB
RTX3080 12GB DDR4 VRAM
2 ASUS 1080P Monitor
1 LG 4K Monitor
ATH-M50x Headphones (HIGHLY RECOMMEND)
Honeycomb Aeronautical Flight Sim Yoke and Switch Panel
Honeycomb Aeronautical Bravo Throttle Quadrant
Logitech Radio Panel
CH Products Rudder Pedals
----------------CHAPTERS--------------------
00:00 - Intro
00:10 - Graphics
03:55 - Sounds - Ігри
UPDATED VERSION: ua-cam.com/video/arndGMZHjlk/v-deo.html
To everyone wishing XP12 was an entirely new sim, this is not how the XP development cycle has ever worked. It’s always been a work in progress with continual updates. It’s just incredible Austin is still putting as much steam into XP as he did back in the early 2000s and late 90s. Every update has always just been a step above the previous version. It’s always a continuous update throughout the XP versions.
if you ask me austin is not going to his full effort and potential, i feel like xp12 would have had way more potential if they would just try different things. and try and experiment with features would make xplane 12 much more fun, maybe to the point of it competing with MSFS.
@@NicholasAfari-Mintah facts. I think the reality is he should've left it another year until releasing. Because right now xp11 is better than 12. Obviously in a few months all mods will be updated to be compatible with both, but its still just an unstable release.
@@radialb1894 well. It’s still early access and beta. So my guess is that all criticism will be taken to further improve until full release.
this means that by 12.50 the sim will be way better than it is now :)
X-Plane has a Microsoft flight simulator 2020 problem.
Really don’t see any reason to upgrade to 12. it’s basically just Xplane 11 with updated airports, and more trees.
What were you expecting? Msfs?
@@ethansaviation2672 For that money? Yes.
@@Criisko It's going up to $79+ soon :).
Thank you for taking the time to make this! I appreciate it!
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Great video. One of YOUR best and also perhaps THE best comparison videos of XP12 Early vs XP11 thanks
Thank you! I am trying to up my own game!
It's a lot better, that new lighting model alone makes a world of a difference.
80 bucks for a new lighting model
@@2511jeremy if u dont have money then dont play it hahahahahaha
See I'm not complaining but I really can't tell the difference on some of the comparisons
That is true. But hopefully it is different and better by the end.
very nice comparison, nicely put together appreciate, the time you took to make
Thanks, you are welcome!
Well put together comparison, thanks.
Great work Micah! Thank you for those comparisons. I noticed several differences, like more detail filled in on XP12 (houses near the airport in XP12, vs random roads in XP11) but from a standpoint of realism the biggest differences I saw were...
1. The gray scale was tripled or quadrupled on XP12 over XP11. At least that's the term used in the video world. With XP11, there seems to be about 5 levels of brightness: dark, bright, and 3 levels of brightness in between. This makes an image decidedly lacking in dynamics and in my opinion plays as much a part in video realism as resolution. XP12 shows many more levels of brightness and gets much closer to reality as a result. One of the areas where you see this is the brightness of trees compared to the ground they're on. They look to have identical brightness in XP11, not to mention better coloration of the trees in XP12.
2. We all knew it was coming but in XP11, when you get close to trees, they're obviously comprised of two 2D images that intersect at 90º to each other, whereas with XP12, they look like real 3D objects.
3. The sounds in XP11 sound good until you hear XP12 and then, by comparison, it seems as if XP11 has a noise floor that, while you don't really hear the noise floor, still has an impact in that the sound effect of the engines just seems to rise up out of that murky noise floor and then still be heard a little muddily within that noise floor. In XP12, there is virtually no noise floor, so all you hear are the sound effects.
4. When the airplane passes the observer on the ground, there is virtually no transition of sound between the turbines coming toward you and when they are going away from you. I'm not so much referring to a Doppler effect as I am how the turbine sounds when you're looking at the intake vs looking at the exhaust end. In XP11 it almost instantaneously changes from the intake sound to the exhaust sound, whereas in XP12 you have more of a sense of that transition.
And this is just the Beta folks! Really looking forward to ongoing improvements and the impact of adding scenery, airports, and aircraft from 3rd parties. As far as what I care most about, the physics of external factors on the aircraft, the performance characteristics of the aircraft itself, and the accuracy with which control inputs affect control surfaces, that is, how useful is XP12 as a legit flight simulator for flight training... we are already MORE than there and THAT is awesome!!
I agree with your points, things I noticed as well.
After testing XP 12, I can only warn everyone. Addons not working, payware airliners upgrades necessary ($$$), BSS soundpacks not working at all, XPilot not working, microstutters, clouds are sometimes horrible (looks like cheese cake, glacier, mashed potatoes), clouds are flickering like hell.
Bottomline: if you expect to have a flawless flight like in XP 11, you will be in for a bad surprise. I can only recommend to wait 3-6 months until everything is sorted out.
I was contemplating this, thank you!
@@sup2069 Well it has become a lot better by now. Most addons have upgrades and they have ironed out some bugs. I am starting to enjoy it! But the clouds still need work, there is a flickering at cruise altitude.
I just picked it up and WOW! The scenery is beautiful! Was flying over the tutorial starting area and saw a cop car with its emergency lights on, hauling ass down the freeway! 😂
After 6 months it is still terrible! clouds terrible! Trees terrible! Scenery is shit! I am so much disappointed buying XPlane 12! I have gone back to 11 with some Lua modding and Enhanced Skyscapes. Also tried MSFS with Xbox Pass but Flight dynamics was horrible! I tried Cesna 172 and Boeing 747-400 both planes flight dynamics are not even close to XPlane 11 planes! Perfect Sim would be MSFS scenery with XPlane 11 flight dynamics
@@the-matrix-has-you Terrible I wouldn't say. I use both XP 11 and 12. 12 has made great progress over the last months. But you are right, the clouds could be better. MSFS, I have deleted it. I'd rather fly XP with the mediocre clouds than MSFS with the horrible physics, hehe
Great comparisons. It kinda reminds me of the Sims and after a few years going back to watch the cities grow up and flourish.
Haha, interesting comparison!
Very informative and well-done video. Thank you.
You are welcome!
nice comparisson. I´m more interested in knowing if there are palpable differences in flight dynamics (especially in GA aircraft where it is more perceivable). from the footage there (even though it was not long) it doesn´t seem there is a difference. plus, did I perceive a drop in FPS in the Cessna part of the video compared to XP12? if so could you say how much? cheers
Thank you for the great effort you have invested.
Your post finally gave me a realistic opportunity to compare X-Plane11 and X-Plane12.
Let's see if I'll upgrade.
Many greetings
Klaus
You are welcome. Things have changed since this comparison but not too much.
Great comparison video. I'll certainly subscribe. Could you do a lighting comparison when you get the chance please. It's so helpful seeing it in split screen. I love XP 11 and the demo of XP 12 doesn't give enough to decide whether to buy. 20 mins is too short to do anything.
Well, I will when XP12 fixes Beta4! Beta 3 was fine but something they did messed up the lighting, specifically flickering and night lighting.
This is where the comparison should be done, I think too many people are putting it up against MSFS and are ending up disappointed because one has satellite scenery and the other doesn't...
Correct. I also think they both have different markets and different benefits. MSFS looks beautiful...until you land at a non-custom airport and then it looks like crap. X-Plane 12 looks good all-around but lacks the quality MSFS has with textures and lighting. Where X-Plane 12 really does well is how it feels flying and default airports (thanks to the gateway community) being a lot more accurate.
Music name ? Btw video is fantastic ❤
Thank you
A miracle in both versions - cars parked on top of a building with no ramp opening to get them there (see 60 seconds in). As always with a new release, I wonder about the demand on the GPU.
sorry but this looks like my xplane with reshade ...
👍👍👍
great post, looking forward to X-Plane 12 : - ) ( btw I don't even consider Microsoft Flight Sim, yes I tried, but X-Plane 11 already is way better )
Thank you! X-Plane has its benefits and MSFS does as well. I am happy to see XP12!
I used Enhanced Skyscapes and some light enhancements to make X-Plane 11 look like X-Plane 12.
I've gone back to XP11 for a bit.. And tbh, there is not much difference and loads more pay ware aircraft.
Never seen that many F-4s and Do 328s in PDX before!!
download XP12 demo and I absolutely love it. Understanding this a beta and it will get better, cant wait till 3rd party vendor start designing new sceneries or updating existing ones for XP12.
One question: I've demo at this point bud the graphics aren't very good should this change when i buy it?
Graphics are what your PC will handle. What you see in the Demo should mimic what you would see in the full version.
Xplane 12 is so much better than 11. Keep on the good work!
9:00 jesus this looks like real life idk why!!!
It's XP12 is XP11 with a little eye candy, if ortho works and looks as in XP12 as in XP11? What gives? Clouds tech still looks crap. Flight dynamic is worsen now as it ages.
XP12 seems still uses Blade element theory. This flight dynamics calculating tech is pretty old. Haven't found CFD visualisation option. P-Factor with Perf. Data on MSFS more accurate there.
So, we are paying XP11 twice as these changes can be easily moded, clouds tech API has been removed so yea... Cash grab
@@hpharold23 XP11 is on sold rn but its the same price LOL
i like the runway textures in x12
i always had a question about what is better, x plane 11,12 or flight simulator at graphics, sounds and others things, could explain me what´s the difference bettwen them?
That is a long...long conversation. Best I can summarize it down to is MSFS is the best visually, X-Plane is the best for the feeling of flying, flight model. X-Plane 12 is just the better visual version of X-Plane 11.
Both look like DirectX 7 garbage only XP12 has DX9 "shadows". Keep going Austin!! You got a loooong ways to go homie.
everyone is saying the XP12 is just XP11 "reskinned" but there's a lot of huge differences in XP12
There are and most of it isn't visual but engine development that will allow for greater things in the future.
@@MicahMesser ground effect/handling improved lot
Imagine the things the community can do with this new engine. That's for me the most important thing. We definitely can reach new heights with it.
@@tfkslinuxgaming Precisely. I think with xEnviro, Ortho, and other addons we will really have something amazing.
I'm always dubious of any post like this one "everyone is saying", thats bullshit. As is the post, there are buggeral improvements in 12 to make it worth buying and no fixes we expeced in the 11 progression.
This is an 11 rebranded with minor changes.
Hi, Micah! I’m currently using X-Plane 11 but will be switching to X-Plane 12 soon. Is there any way to easily swap my purchased planes, plug-ins, & scenery over from 11 to 12? Anyone feel free to answer too! Thank you!
Well, most have updates. Just redownload with the latest updates. But, a bunch are not compatible yet.
Use all 3 sims but honestly after how lack luster xp12 seems to be currently I think alot of people will be moving to P3D or MSFS only
"Moving to p3d" That's a push😂
@@ethansaviation2672 Moving as in moving back, no one that is new to flight sim is going to consider ANYTHING other than MSFS, not Xp11, XP12 or P3D.
Its always instantly no choice going to be MSFS. But for people looking for experiences that right now MSFS dosnt offer, really seems to only be P3D (Heavies)
On the sound between XP11 and XP12 I cannot hear any difference on the 737 model.. Granted the new A330 sounds wonderful, but for Zibo users I cannot help but think they should have improved the FMOD for this early release?
I do know XP12 as a brand new sound engine that better references sounds in the 3D space. I also know there are birds, crickets, wind, etc. now added to the world. I think the FMOD will definitely be improved with Zibo and others with the new engine.
I think X Plane 12 has been a disappointment. You can do these visuals (xrealistic), sounds, driving dynamics (ezdok camera) much better in X Plane 11 with plugins. I'm looking forward to the Steam price and add-ons. Because trying to sell things that should be better than MFS 2020 as a special feature would be nonsense.
I want see a FPS comparison ;-) sorry I still with XPlane 11 until they really optimize the graphics.
I feel like its already gotten better than the first beta. I was getting 25-30 FPS on the ground now I am getting 35-40 after the last update.
What's the first song name?
My orthos work in xp12 and look even better than in 11. I agree the clouds need work but are way better than default 11. I’ve only seriously flown the Cessna 172 in 12 but I can say that it’s flight model is better in 12, very similar imho to the xp11 version with sim coders REP. And I do have some but not a lot of real world experience to base off. Is X-Plane 12 just v11 upgraded? Sure, in the same way v11 was an upgrade to v10. And is it a cash grab, yes, but Laminar has been open about it still being an early access public beta. Development takes time and most importantly, money, and while Austin Meyers my be doing well for himself, I’m pretty sure he’s not rich enough to keep paying Laminar staffs salaries indefinitely, so an early access beta being released to recoup costs is just good business sense.
Hit the nail on the head. I haven't tried my ortho yet but was wondering if it would look better.
Seems like they removed the ability to mod clouds (And weather), so whatever work they do on clouds is all you will get though.
" Is X-Plane 12 just v11 upgraded? Sure, in the same way v11 was an upgrade to v10" - So is MSFS2020 to FSX, the difference what you're getting, in XP12, you are getting XP11.7, with MSFS2020 you are getting a new gen sim.
@@activex7327 there was a 14 year gap between fsx and fs2020. And when x plane 11 came out in early access the only real noticeable difference between it and v10 was the UI and PBR reflections and fmod cessna baron only. Remember, this is still an early access beta, not a the final release.
@@kalynstalinski8375 14 year gap yes, development on MSFS 2020 did start though ca. 2016 and it was released 4 years later as next gen sim. Xplane 11 was released in 2017 (spring). So there's not that much difference. sorry.
Don't expect any drastic visual changes/features once it goes from Beta to official release.
I love xplane always have and xplane 11.9 I mean 12 is nice but for me it feels more like a next step to xp11 more than a new simulator. The improvements are great minus the clouds and the lightning I wish they changed. It feels more like an update than new SIM for me still a great SIM mind and hopefully improves more over the development cycle.
There is a difference from 11 to 12 may buy it.
Definitely check out the Demo!
how about xp11 vs xp12 vs msfs2020?
Any idea what the framerate was like in Xplane 12? Xplane 11 looks buttery smooth, whereas Xplane 12 looks really choppy. I've seen other videos where the FPS counter was quite high (60FPS+) and yet the frame pacing was all over the place.
25-35 depending on the shot. I was running them both 4K.
When I switch to 2K or lower, I get ~45. When I switch to 1080P I get ~60-70
Good question!
I get 38fps with max settings on my 3060
It's XP12 is XP11 with a little eye candy, if ortho works and looks as in XP12 as in XP11? What gives? Clouds tech still looks crap. Flight dynamic is worsen now as it ages.
XP12 seems still uses Blade element theory. This flight dynamics calculating tech is pretty old. Haven't found CFD visualisation option. P-Factor with Perf. Data on MSFS more accurate there.
So, we are paying XP11 twice as these changes can be easily moded, clouds tech API has been removed so yea... Cash grab
@@hpharold23 My X-Plane 11 is so heavily modded that it looks equal if not better then Xp12. They wasted the opportunity and could have done so much more with the sim or delayed the release until all the problems were sorted out. Definetly a cash grab.
@@hpharold23 Yup you noticed how they locked the ability for 3rd party cloud development lol,We all know 3rd party can do better than those clouds they came up with in 12 its a joke,and like usual xplane the clouds absolutely destroy performance,The rendering engine is so ineffective and dated.
3:00 name of the song?
I have Xplane 11 and I tried the Xplane 12 demo, and I found no reason to upgrade especially for such a price.
It clearly looks better but we are spoiled by the graphics of MSFS therefore I'm still not satisfied. They should have gone with a Google Maps based solution in order to seriously compete with Microsoft. It's a pity...
they are not trying to compete. XP12 is all about reaslism not graphics. Keep in mind its in early access and has a long way to go. I switch to XP12 cause of the better realistic flight model and failures so I can train
@@PilotPrysten As soon as a customer can choose between one product or another you are competing - if you like it or not.
The only way is to keep/grow your profit, user base and 3rd party supplier base to at least being able to finance your product mainenance and feature upgrades. From a marketing perspective you can do that by either being cheaper or different/better then your competition. At the moment the only reason to buy XP12 is the advanced/better flight model. But how long can you withstand the financial power of Microsoft until they catch up? And what else do they have then? 😀
To be honest it's not looking good for XP12 and that's sad but reality.
@@MightyMany I don't understand the "better flight model" aspect. Everyone says that but with what fact? Is it better overall or is it better on default planes? Is Xp12 better than PMDG or Fenix A320 and if so what makes it better ?
@@alidurgut477 To me that's rather subjective. I am no pilot therefore who am I to judge 😄 What I can say is that I am completely happy with my MSFS PMDG and Fenix products. To me they fly like butter!
For the moment at least many simmers are still choosing XP over MSFS because of the flight model. But I'm pretty confident that this will change as well.
@@alidurgut477 It's because Laminar applied for FAA certification, allowing pilots to train for 2hrs on the sim! The fan base have twisted that into meaning it's the best there is. In reality any product that's a simulator and meets certain tests can be certified. MS have not applied for it because it's not a commercial product, MSFS is a consumer product. But that doesn't mean the flight dynamics are inferior, and speaking as a PPL qualified pilot, I can't fault the MSFS physics at all.
I have a horrible stuttering with a 5600x + 3070. It's strange... Could be a bad vsync ?
Have you tried turning vSync off and on? I noticed some issues with my 5800x + 3080. I didn't think about vSync but it may very well be that.
@@MicahMesser Fixed by disabling vsync on xplane 12 and using rivatunner at 60fps. Now it runs smooth. Thank you very much for all !
take xp11, add some trees mod, runway mod, reshade, xenviro, and you have xp12... cmon now 60bux!!
Which flight model feels more realistic?
Not sure nowadays. It would have been Zibo for sure.
Since my Mac won't run 12, version 11 is just fine.
XP12 has better lighting effects, that's what make a better quality in visuals overall.
i think with a couple of addons xplane 11 would look the same as xplane 12
didnt see anything strikingly obvious that would make me want to spend 60 dollars to upgrade
The X Plane 12 demo was terrible, does x plane 12 come with autogate?
It is not autogate but it does come with moving jetways. Shift+G brings up a ground handling menu that allows you to bring gateways to you and disconnect them, push back left, center, or right.
Can anyone comment on frame rate and flight dynamics. The eye candy is all nice until your frame rate hit 20FPS or less. I am guessing because of the lack of moving cars, etc, it's the reason why the FPS in XP11 is so superior in comparison. I bought XP12. Thinking of buying XP11 instead. Cheaper than a new GPU.
Last time I was in XP12 frames were pretty bad. 20-25fps
OMG 🙄 it looks x-plane 12 sceneries are hazier than x-plane 11, also whenever we switch the weather to raining and cloudy weather the weather dosen't change on left and right monitors views , and also we still can't see prop and wings whenever we vanish the cockpit of aircraft, we homemade cockpit users rather use our own cockpit but still need to see the prop on middle monitor and wings on two side monitors.
I don't know about the multi-screen setup. My single screen seems to be fine. But, I am not running instruments or anything outside my single 2D screen :/
you used different power settings for your sound comparison, it is therefore not accurate.
No, I did not. There is slight variations but the same overall power settings.
Considering i would need a whole new computer to run xplane 12, I won’t bother.
Only difference i can see is the lighting
The only difference I see is more trees for XPlane 12
After realizing, I have to stream the scenery with MSFS, in order to see it, I run to X-Plan and feel its a safer investment with addons, now i am watching these videos to learn as much as i can, does anyone know if you can have 11 and 12, on the same hard drive?
You can. Its how I do it.
XP12 is a step up, but it's taking XP from the 1980s to the 1990s. Meanwhile MSFS is light years ahead.
Pfff... light years ahead? Of what, graphics? MSFS does not even have a basic turbulence modelled and it's default aircraft lacks of details and flight model. XP gives the most realistic feel with the aerodynamic effects
@@aviator1111 I read a lot of people quoting the XP flight model. Are you aware that it's based on the desire for Laminar to spread their customer base and get commercial contracts, so they applied for Class D FAA approval to use it as a simulator? This allows pilots to log 2 hours training time on it. It's not vindication that their flight model is superior, it's simply a box-ticking exercise that certain criteria are met for training needs. MS/Asobo could apply for this if they want to, but it's not a strategic goal for a domestic consumer product. They have no need of the limited revenue when their consumer product is doing so well. It doesn't mean that their flight model is inferior either. Indeed, I'm a PPL qualified pilot, regularly fly C152/C172 and occasionally Piper Arrows, and I cannot fault the handling/weather/physics of the sim. What I also know is that nobody in our club flies XP any more, we've all moved to MSFS, and all appreciate the visual qualities too. Yes, some of the default aircraft models are not great, but that's the same in any sim, it's down to individual developers, but there's plenty good models out there now from PMDG, Flying Iron, Milviz or Blackbox to name but a few. Believe it or not, I'm totally unbiased as to which sim I fly, but nothing in XP impresses me and I was sorely disappointed when XP12 appeared as I was looking forward to a healthy competitor to MSFS. Laminar really underestimated consumer demand for high quality visuals and everywhere I look on UA-cam I'm reading the same feedback. I am literally blown away every time I put on my Reverb G2 in MSFS, it's stunning, and I won't dial back that experience based on anecdotal fanaticism about XP's flight model. Laminar really dropped the ball and have had 2 years of seeing consumer feedback with MSFS to know that folks really appreciated the modelling and visual qualities of the product. Yes it took a while to bug fix and improve the engine, but it's now a mature product with a solid roadmap for new feature releases. I am aware XP12 is a beta release, but it's a release candidate, so Laminar sees it as a finished product, perhaps requiring a few bug fixes, but ultimately it's almost ready for release in their view. They've totally misread the market as they've had ample opportunity to do something about their visuals. They do matter, greatly.
@@mattchristie1810 We just want to fly a sim which as proper flight dynamics, cockpit and function modelling without paying 60 bucks for each aircraft. And XP is doing it. They modelled every single detail from sun visors to working air conditioners. Yes there are few bugs, mistakes, or not existing features but i am testing out the sim everyday and reporting them to Laminar, they are fixing those.
And for the graphics part, everything will be good they just need a little bit of time. I do not expect for it to competete with MSFS but i want it to be good enough to love it
Meanwhile MSFS is light years ahead, exactly ... don't say XP is poor because of early access XP if eearly a is ending, msfs is on next higher level,
imo XP12 is on level FSX. Best flight dynamic in DCSworld, best graphic msfs...
i use xplane because it actually runs on my laptop
looks like a cartoon
unfear comparison, you didn't have shadows turned on in x plane 11.
Not much change 😢
I didn't expect a MSFS from X-Plane, about a $10,000,000 budget difference.
I have been an instructor pilot of light and ultralight aircraft for over 35 years, and I honestly do not believe that the graphics of the FS 2020 scenarios are adequate for the real training of light and ultralight aircraft pilots. Microsoft thought it (rightly) for those who want to play and not for the training of pilots. for this reason it is much better to take the realism of the X-Plane flight model and build on it autonomously dedicated scenarios. As has been done successfully with the Italian project of the "VFR ESTREMO". In this case, a synthesis of the advantages of the two simulators was obtained. maximum realism of the flight model and maximum realism of photorealistic scenarios.
That is what I always tell to the MSFS fanboys. They are just gamers who like pretty colors and pretty pictures. If you want a nice flying GAME, get MSFS. If you want a flight SIMULATOR, get XPlane.
Interesting video: ua-cam.com/video/ugLw61o8m4Y/v-deo.html
seems like the flightmodels are not so different after all
The conclusion always comes down to realism. Which sim is more real?
The reality check is that everyone is sitting in a bedroom moving pixels on a computer screen and that none of these *_sims_* fly like a *_real_* plane.
@@ehss192 Any simulator can never be equivalent to reality. however a good simulator can be used to train pilots - other simulators are not suitable for this but instead to entertain those who use them. however the difference is always made by the flight instructor to the extent that he is able to convey his experience.
Install Cloudscapes + MisterX runway textures = XP 12 😅😅😅
No.
@@psyk2806 At current release, Yes.
Con la calidad del video no podemos apreciar bien el cambio.
Yeah, UA-cam has had two hours now and have still not processed it into HD.
xplane 12 x flight simulator 2020?
MSFS2020 for looks, for sure. They are also improving a lot of the issues. X-Plane 12 is still new, I wouldn't recommend it right out of the gate just yet.
It's more like X-Plane 11 (12 mod)
Not night and day :( but is better
No, it's not night and day but it is better.
Demo version…
I can't see how people say X-Plane 12 is the most realistic flight sim game. When I play X-Plane 12 I just think of how much better looking the aircraft, the graphics, and how msfs feels like the real thing. X-Plane 12 just feels dull.
To each their own! I find MSFS to look amazing but feels wrong when flying.
@@MicahMesser I've never flown in real life so I don't know.
@@everythingvideos24 you should! It is truly amazing.
@@MicahMesser I thought of trying to take a Private Pilot course. I'm 28yrs old and never flown before.
@@everythingvideos24 I got mine at 27!
not worth $60 for that upgrade tbh
1:52 both are very weak! Unrealistic, very plastic!
The XP12 world definitely looks "richer" but it is an evolutionary step, unlike the huge (albeit imperfect) revolutionary step of MSFS. Not sure it is worth the full asking price...I will probably wait for a deeply discounted price on Steam
As a long time user of X-plane, I'm not seeing enough to make me want to upgrade. More to the point, I'm going to lose the aircraft I paid for to use on X-Plane 11. I note X-Plane is silent on aircraft and when I look at the videos , usless videos I might add because they fail to show the instrument flying side of things or how any needed improvements were NOT done for X-Plane 12
Whats really frustrating is if you want high frame rate in X-plane 11 you can't have that with high definition graphics. X-Plane 12 appears to be similar to X-Plane 11 with the graphics turned up to max.
I'm disapointed. This is really like an additional version of X-Plane 11 and sold off as X-Plane 12.
Yea, the Xplane franchise is now like P3D and FSX, outdated on so many levels.
FPS on 11 is better
Of course, less objects, less detail, less to render, 2D objects vs 3D, etc.
X-plane 12 Early access*****
Correct
Another 50quid
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Not so much difference
Shame , is the same lol
Too me xplane 12 looks no better than xplane 11.
If you want a real life looking flight...msfs would be No 1
So little in it, will not be purchasing
To each their own!
Not much difference. Both have flickering going on. Garbage.
It's XP12 is XP11 with a little eye candy, if ortho works and looks as in XP12 as in XP11? What gives? Clouds tech still looks crap. Flight dynamic is worsen now as it ages.
XP12 seems still uses Blade element theory. This flight dynamics calculating tech is pretty old. Haven't found CFD visualisation option. P-Factor with Perf. Data on MSFS more accurate there.
So, we are paying XP11 twice as these changes can be easily moded, clouds tech API has been removed so yea... Cash grab
you forgot to mention those horrible roads 😂
why are you doing this? XP12 is XP11.. look at the base engine and code, its XP11 with a few tweaks and a heck load of new Bugs and Many stutters! they needed cash to keep their pockets full and cooked this idea up that XP12 is a new sim. it's not!! im so glad i got a full refund and downloaded a free copy from the web that updates. sim should be shelved under the year 2018
Then shelf it yourself and go play MSFS 2020. Everyone can make that decision for themselves.
Then compare it to flight simulator 2020 lmfao
Xplane is a laughing stock 🤣 do a graphics comparison with MSFS 🤣