I think one thing people need to remember is that Vergil (even in the cutscene before the final boss fight) acknowledges Nero's new power (saying "This is... curious", "what form of power is this?", "interesting"). If there is ONE THING that Vergil is usually spot on about, it's about the measure of power. Sure, Vergil was tentative about it (likely due to his own ego) but he still recognizes it.
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola I wasn't really talking about just the robo-hand (which Nero's Breakers blow PS's hands out of the water anyway), but about the supped up power of Nero's DT, that came from sheer will alone, rather than magic fusion (Dante with Rebellion and Sparda) or a power-up apple and recombining (V and Urizen coming back together probably gave that fruit's power a massive boost). So, yeah, Nero's cracked with the power of "F U" energy.
Ironically Nero is the first one to unlock his DT through thinking about Family and Love and justice like Sparda sacrificing himself and splitting his power to save Mankind and woke up to Justice
yes but they dont need get stabbed, rebellion only need dante's blood to be activated and yamato is already that powerful that vergil unlocked his devil trigger when he summoned it as a child
It’s because Nero was born with natural Awakening of his powers but he doesn’t know where to store it why his devil bringer grew because he couldn’t control his demonic power without an devil arm like Dante and vergil’s hence why they have to Stab themselves to awaken it
@@Omega-jg4oqit’s because he doesn’t need a Devil arm and if he doesn’t well he would be less powerful because the weapon would store all of Nero’s power into it limiting his potential
So tired of my boy Nero getting underrated, so this was a great video. I've had to tell people time and time again that yes, despite Dante and Vergil being tired, Nero stopping BOTH of them with minimal effort in the middle of their strongest forms, and blitzing eachother with full intent to kill, is still extremely impressive as a feat. Especially since that is only his BASE Devil Trigger.
he also had his base DT for 0.000000000000000000001 seconds before performing said feat. To me, Nero is like Gohan from Cell saga, in his potential to grow compared to his father at the time.
@@DigitaltYT100% agree. Feels like Nero's in his prime for some really bonkers potential. He's capable of all he is without even an actual Devil Arm weapon.
Nero literally pulled a arkhan on them, sure he is strong, but people are fanboying over him way too hard if they think that if he tryied to pull that off with vergil and dante at their peak he would be anything other than a literal bloodstain.
I think the reason the half human half demons are stronger than the pure demons is that pure demons need to consume human blood to gain power or as the qliphot works need human blood to form the qliphot fruit to make whoever demon eats it powerful But in the case for Nero, Dante and Vergil they already have a steady supply of human blood built in for them
@Dominick Clark there's not really a reason to believe that. yes, he's more human but he's also less demon. it could go either way. or maybe the two balance each other out.
great video for nero. he's downplayed a lot more than he deserves. glad you didn't lean into him "defeating" vergil by himself at the end of 5. since it's heavily implied that vergil was testing nero's strength and the gameplay itself even reflects it as he was no where near as aggressive in his fight with nero as he was with dante in the previous mission. i think nero is definitely in the same ball park as dante and vergil. but i don't think he could defeat either of them in a 1v1 if they were actually trying to kill him.
In a straight up fight I don’t see Nero as is defeating a fully restored Dante or Vergil. The potential is crazy high though where his DT was able to do what it did to two SDT Sparda bois.
Given what we know about Sparda, than Vergil, Nero could very well capable of become more powerful than Vergil (or Dante), but as of right now, he ain't strong enough yet.
A little known fact is why nero's arm was stuck in his devil trigger state: since he didnt have full control over it, after his right arm got injured his demonic abilities tried to heal it, but it simultaneously was destroying it. Causing his arm to be in a state of limbo being healed and damaged. This means that his healing factor to regrow his arm is not limited to just his arm. Since if he was injured anywhere else the effect would have been the same
another great point is Dante saying "it's because you're here that we can go, we're trusting you things on this side" or something like that which says he's strong enough to protect the humans
I feel like Nero represents raw talent while Dante and Vergil each represent different ways of growing stronger through hard work. Dante could be summed up as the master of a thousand weapons while Vergil mastered a single weapon a thousand times, so to speak. Nero differs from his father and uncle in that his strength doesn't seem to be skill based, but rather appears to be a potential that exists inside of him that is drawn out through sheer force of will, allowing him to perform incredible feats through desire and motivation. Effectively, what it looks like is that the stronger his emotions are, the greater the feats he can accomplish. It's unclear whether certain emotions are more potent than others, or if it's just emotion in general that fuels him. He does generally seem to default to drawing out a sort of controlled anger as his preferred combat state, savagely and crudely attacking enemies like a berserker while still being focused enough to crack one liners similar to Dante's.
To be fair, Dante himself has a ton of raw talent. Nero's more about power and power alone. He can surpass Dante on strength (or well he could if Dante* didn't absorb the power of a local deity) but he'll never be the guy who masters a weapon immediately after picking it up.
You fully understood nero man, he uses his raw talent and will only ... i am pretty sure he was always skipped credo trainings from the way he swings his sword
@@madladdie7069 Sorry for the late reply, just noticed that there were replies while scrolling through some of my old comments. I should probably clarify, when I refer to Nero seeming to be more about raw talent, I'm strictly comparing him to Dante and Vergil, and not Dante and/or Vergil to ordinary humans. That is to say, yes, Dante for example does have a lot of native talent compared to any ordinary human, but his growth as a powerhouse is (with exception to unlocking and enhancing his DT form) linked to his skill far more than any physical growth. The clearest way of seeing this is by comparing Dante in DMC3 to his DMC4 and 5 counterparts. His skill as a fighter has grown tremendously from his origin days as a rookie demon hunter just setting up shop for the first time. Nero on the other hand doesn't seem to rely on growing his skill, but rather becomes a powerhouse due to a combination of emotion and raw talent alone. He doesn't seem to gain much power from hard work, but rather always seems to grow stronger due to absorbing artifacts into his arm (such as the Yamato) and/or experiencing powerful bursts of emotion. This might even be why his attacks are so crude and lacking in precision; He's unconcerned with technique and relies more on just general raw power, with his most reliable means of drawing it out being through a controlled rage.
@@Crow_Rising That's fair. I'm of the same opinion. Though I don't think Nero's crudeness comes from a lack of concern. He either doesn't or believes he doesn't have the skill to handle things in any other way than brute force which is what he excels at. Unlike Dante who probably could have outperformed Nero at first but chooses not to, Nero has to rely on his strength alone. Though this doesn't really apply in 5 given how Nero's outclassing pre-SDT Dante now and there it's probably force of habit (or just the threat just being that much more deadly).
@@madladdie7069 Out-of-universe, my speculation as to why Nero's attacks are so crude and imprecise is because he's meant to be something of a middle ground between Dante and Vergil. Like Vergil, he's very focused on drawing out huge amounts of power to defeat his enemies. However, unlike Vergil his usage of this power is very brutish and lacking in elegance. Meanwhile, like Dante he gets a thrill out of the whole thing, enjoying the rush of combat and getting caught up in the moment. In-universe, my speculation is it could have to do with him being the grandson of Sparda. While Dante and Vergil are Sparda's direct progeny, each being half demons, Nero is three fourths human. As such, it could be that his usage of his demon powers is much more limited than it is for his father and uncle. This could be why he needs to rely on powerful emotions and absorbing magical artifacts to draw out more power. Natively, even with Sparda of all demons as his grandfather, he just doesn't have as large of a pool to draw power from as Dante and Vergil do.
An interesting sidenote is that with Nero being just as strong as Sparda, Dante and Vergil implies that demonic heritage doesn't get diluted by generational gaps, which makes sense as demons tend to get stronger from human blood rather than weaker. This could also potentially point to all of Sparda's descendants being able to tap into massive demonic power
it could be something like all people of demonic inheritance having the same level of demonic power with it only being passed on if the individual themselves uses that power. but if it works similar to genetics then there will be a point where there isn't enough demon there for the human side to power up.
Dante did mention to Angus in DMC4 that Demon lack a heart. With Nero confirming that having the heart to love another person is what Sanctus lacks, but Sparda had one even as a demon. So having a heart that's capable of loving another person is a source of immense strength in-verse. On-top of the human blood theory. Nero could be getting stronger not only thanks to being even more human, but also having Kyrie in his life.
not even dante in the opening chapter could do that which means that nero in mission 13( or whatever mission it is) is stronger than dante was in chapter 0
Finally someone's putting RESPECT on my bois name and character with the evidence to back it up. Btw since Nero awakened his full DT powers he'll continue to get stronger with time and experience since his DT is in it's "infancy" stage. I say that because ever since Dante awoke his own powers his form kept changing over time and his strength grew as a result of getting older.
I really like this video because it brings up the thoughts I have had for a while as it gave me a realization....Nero is still young. With more experience and possibly unlocking his own Sin DT, he could be the most powerful character in Devil May Cry seeing as he was more powerful than Dante before from DMC4 at the same age Dante was in DMC3. Which all really puts into perspective of just how powerful Nero will become when he hits his 30s onward if he keeps on progressing like this. And finally, this brings up a theory of mine...maybe the Sparda brothers aren't so strong because of their Demonic blood enhancing their human bodies, but instead their Human souls enhancing their Demonic power? I mean, Dante and Vergil are half human, and yet they are stronger than Sparda, and Nero is three fourths human and is stronger than a Dante in his 30s at the age of 19.
That doesn't actually make that much sense when you consider that unless there's a hard cut off point, a person with like 0.000001% demon blood would by that logic be essentially god, and we don't really hear about anyone like that in the series, even with how long demons have existed and people trying to combine demon blood with humans.
@@jbcoolerninja I guess? None of that really addresses the issue I brought up. Even if Sparda was a .1%, there are a lot of demons out there, and it doesn't provide any mechanical explanation for how this wouldn't get exponentially stupider as you go down a family tree.
This is awesome! I also think Nero is super powerful but he lacks certain advanced moves that his uncles have and yet has some that they do have. For instance his Whip devil breaker if you use the ultimate attack it seems like its Neros own version of Judgement cut end(but you have to use it on a giant enemy) Even the whips secondary combo makes it look like Vergils regular Judgment cut Alsp If you think about it when Nero had his Devil Arm. Its kinda like he had permanent devil trigger on but only on his arm. And lastly if you look at Neros Horns. Theyres the same horns as Nelo Angelo. And you might be thinking that that means Nero is being compared to Vergil but nah. Vergil was the replacement Dark Knight for sparda the original Dark Knight. Nero os the only Sparda boy to fall in love with somebody just like Sparda. Hes the new Sparda. Urizen = Demon King Trish/Cavellier = Nelo Angelo V= Demon Kings Shadow And Nero was V's Dark Knight for DMC 5
he's got his physical hands on dante and vergil, and the DT hands are stopping their swords! it's a neat detail that i never noticed myself until recently
The Red Queen is actually quite impressive itself. It's not a devil arm, but it has come to blows with some of the most powerful devil arms. It withstood direct contact with Berial's sword and also his body, despite bullets supposedly melting before they can touch him. It has also clashed with several of Dante's weapons as well as the Yamato. Not to mention it has a mechanism to superheat itself. This should decrease it's durability since this is literally how you shape steel into a sword to begin with.
about red queen, i'd like to think other than the ability to rev up and withstand incredible degree of heat/temperature, it just a normal regular sword nothing really special about it. but the reason it can clash with the most busted devil arms like Yamato is Nero demonic power is so strong and it constantly overflowing through his body it strengthen a regular man made sword to be able to do that.
It’s also hilarious to me that the blades of rebellion and yamato have been completely shattered whereas the only part of red queen to have ever been damaged was the fuel injector
*Short version/Conclusion at the end* This video draw my attention back to my personal problem with powerscaling specially in anime based eastern media: It's not about being unrealistic, but just mad uncomprehendable. From Dragon Ball, to Bleach, to Bayonetta, to DMC, the feats and powers are BEYOND what the writters themselves can even grasp, but they add those anyway for the sake of showing how "incredibly powerful" the character is supposed to be. This style of writting makes the plot and feats "problematic" at best, where they either become inconsistent, or outright contradicts themselves and common sense, as they writters only understand the basic concept, but clearly cannot comprehend/visibly imagine the full amount of forces, they are trying to portray. It makes audiences like myself enjoy the content at bedt, when we actively AVOID to see it we with common sense. If you ever watched or read Dragon Ball devates, then you'd surely understand where I'm coming from. There clear differences between the powerscaling of something like DBZ, Bleach, Jujutsu K and JJBA, to let's say Beserk, Baki, or Gintama. I would put shows like OP, Naruto, MHA and Fire Froce somewhere in the middleground. In Conclusion: *Anime-based media have a trope of depicting/including feats far beyond the comprehension of their audience and writters, creating both inconsistencies and doubts in the credibilities of their plots because of that.* Thanks for reading 🤙
A respectable opinion, but upon closer inspection there are aspects of this argument which come across as logically fallacious and unfortunately renders your argument as this in its entirety. Chief amongst them which I'll be addressing is the automatic assumption that fiction must be 1-1 enough with reality in its power scaling as an ironclad rule in writing for the sake of our suspension of disbelief as though planet destroyers are anymore absurd then all the other super powers and such in fiction. I mean when you get down to the science and especially if you don't have a religious predisposition then things like souls, non physical entities, etc. that you see in dag Casper the Friendly Ghost should be driving you crazy, but it doesn't. Heck Homelander from the boys breaks so many laws of physics you wouldn't believe with the obvious being a man of his height and weight generating forces strong enough to pummel through buildings. Or we can go to Deadpool and his ability to spontaneously generate new cells which would require absurd amounts of activation energy that'd burn a hole in the ground. In either case, it really comes down to how far your suspension of disbelief goes and how much you can handle the well, *fictional* attributes of fiction cause a person can range from handling what you'd call absurdity to balking at fiction in general for portraying fictional events as is because it's just not *realistic enough*. Just my two cents on your take and given the examples I provided above your issue shouldn't just be with Japanese media, but fictional media as a whole by your own logic as American comics are quite guilty of what you accuse Japanese media of being to cite some obvious examples (i.e. Omniman, Superman, etc.). All in all I must reiterate that I respect your opinion. However, it is not one which can't be pushed back against.
And that is why there is something called *_lore_* in fiction (ALL fiction). There's this manhwa called Tower Of God, one of the very first things introduced is the concept of Shinsu existing on every floor, and the higher one climbs the more pressure they feel (a twist on gravity and oceanic pressure). So while you keep reading, you know for a fact that every floor is filled to the brim with basically an ocean of shinsu, so when you SEE a fish seemingly FLYING, you understand fully that the "logic" behind this is that Shinsu exists everywhere in the tower so it's a fish that evolved to "swim" in shinsu. This is all to say that *_pre-established lore_* plays an important role in the audience being able fully comprehend and digest what they're seeing in a fictional world no matter how unrealistic and absurd. It doesn't even NEED to be something grand, even human level characters need to be consistent with the lore for said fiction to make sense. (you mentioned Baki) It's not about _suspending your disbelief_ for the story, it's about understanding that it IS fiction. The story is either good despite the absurdity OR it's bad regardless. example; "Avengers: Infinity War" was great but "Ant-Man: Quantumania" is trash, both absurdly unrealistic but clearly, the "rules" are defined to where comprehension is possible. Anyway, how is Baki more forgiving than One Piece, and how is One Piece more forgiving than Bleach? I'd like to hear how you rationalize this, because from where I'm standing, they're all fiction... absurd in their own ways just as they are unique in their own ways. I don't think splitting the sky with haki is more absurd than stopping an earthquake with a punch (prove me wrong tho)
I honestly prefer when The Power scaling is more like JoJo, there isn't a "weak" stand because The battles are more about outsmarting rather than outright beating The opponent
@@nicholassgobero On that I agree. Another example of a rather balanced scaling chain in a show seems to be Inuyasha from what I've seen of it thus far (just made it to the third movie).
Those Wings actually are the Devil Bringer because it has all abilities like before but Showdown & Maximum Bet need to be purchased from the Goddess aka Divinity Statue and using the claws for Bringer Claw, Nero's Demonic Side pretty much knows how much he loves the old Devil Bringer and also sentient of sorts to appreciate the Devil Breakers. The Customization shows the Demonic Arm in DT is for the logo of Devil Bringer because just looks, same as Punchline for Devil Breaker instead of an Arm we don't see but wouldn't make sense or be what fans want since they wouldn't know or see it outside of being a logo.
Lusachia and Fury's files explain that demon evolution works very quickly and is driven by desire. If a demon wants to be fast, it's child will have mutated to be far faster than it. It would stand to reason that any child of Vergil will have mutated to be far more powerful than him since power is his strongest desire.
I love that someone is finally giving my boi the credit he deserves. I think to most people, its pretty obvious in mission 20 Vergil isn't trying to outright kill nero, but the thing everyone forgets is Nero isn't trying to kill him either! Nero explicitly says he doesn't want anyone else dying, and even though Vergil probably isn't trying to kill him, he still wants to win. Vergil stated that since he knocked Dante out with a sucker punch, that if he beats Nero he beats Dante, so he was taking the fight seriously and he still lost! Am I saying Nero beats Dante or Vergil in the 1v1, probably not. But he's younger with vastly less experience and is already popping off. DMC and Redgrave are in good hands with Nero keeping watch.
Great video. The only thing I could point out is at the very end, if you watch closely, he uses two hands per twin. His physical arms stop their bodies, and his wing/claw/hands catch their swords. I still agree with your point, just a small detail I noticed.
Don't forget that they all have self actualizing power due to having demonic power, this was evident in the Deadly Fortune novel when Nero basically wanted Sanctus to be erased from existence and that's what happens and don't forget that the Savior was actually trouble for Dante, the big Lazer attack from the Savior was so powerful that Dante had to go into Dreadnaught form and even then he couldn't move because the power and force of the beam was restricting his movements
@because I'm batman yeah, Sanctus was slightly weaker when Nero fought him due to Yamato separating Nero from the Savior but even then he was still leagues above anything Arkham could even dream of, also, not to be a memester but Nero had more drive and motivation in 4 than both Dante and Vergil did in 3, especially Dante so his power growth would increase exponentially, especially with Yamato, also, Novels aren't separate, DMC 4 Deadly Fortune is just DMC 4 in more depth, in the novel Dante himself said Nero may be even stronger than him so the fact that DMC 4 Dante thinks Nero by the end of 4 is at least comparable to him is enough evidence to say he would wash DMC 3 Dante and Vergil
@because I'm batman Bariel also directly compared Nero to Vergil and got scared, also, people forget that Nero has bean fighting nearly his whole life since he was apart of the Order of the Sword and was the most skilled and most capable fighter they ever had and the Sparda's gets stronger the most they fight while also passively getting stronger just by aging, so it makes since why, with Yamato, Nero is so damn powerful but currently, Dante and Vergil outclass him by a huge margin due to constantly fighting each other in the demon World so after the 22 day time skip, they are exponentially stronger than they were after Nero beat Vergil
@because I'm batman there's always alternate timelines and dimensions, DMC multiverse has already somewhat been established, Dante goes to one in the DMC 2 Novel but I assume you already knew that since you mentioned Void Mundus earlier, there can always be something
i think nero's can also cut through space and time in dmc5 when we use maximum bet we can see effect like when vergil uses his jugement cut and i think nero's ture power is to absor demonic energy from others and i think he has absorbed some demonic energy for dante and vergils sin devil trigger
I mean that move is purchased from the Goddess so ofc that spectral Yamato would but it's mainly given the extra damage from the claws of his new Devil Bringer.
If Dante and Vergil are half human and their sin triggers look devilish while neros look human ish, imagine a couple of generations we get a completely normal human looking sparda descendant with the power of destroying the universe
Worth noting that Mero was standing between Dante and Vergil when he stopped them, effectively using their own force as an anchor and counter balance for the other to make stopping them easier. I think it's more impressive that he didnt get squished like a gnat
3:24 I still remember when I said this and the whole DMC fanbase went on witch hunt in my comment section years ago lmao granted I said Nero was slightly stronger than Dante & Vergil
Crazy is that Nero is still very young and not anywhere close to being truly reaching his full power. He's going to end up surpassing Vergil and Dante no doubt
Nero getting past Urizen's barrier is insane.Dante in devil trigger and armed with the Sparda couldn't break through. Dante was already stronger in base than he was in his sparda form fighting Mundus, and even after adding a similar devil trigger amp, he couldn't make a dent. Yet Nero with no devil trigger and no yamato could smash through it through sheer willpower. Nero is just built different, even by DMC standards
@@DigitaltYT that sounds rather BS if it's for things begin easier for Nero, all I can imagen is Urizen nolonger paying attention and duss the sword is on auto mode and is more fragile since it's nolonger feed blood aswell
❤Love the Videos! Keep up the good work! There is an entry in the data files for the demon enemies. The Fury runs so fast it slips in and out of space time. Dante's first interaction with it he casually clowns on it, in base.
@@DigitaltYTThe Fury can potential move through time and space so fast at sheer speed meaning that the Fury has Immeasurable Speed when it fought against Dante.
I don't know if some will agree or laugh at me but the devil trigger of nero in Devil may cry 4 looks like Vergil doppelganger technique so I think that the dt of nero in DMC 4 is actually a Doppelganger/power boost
And that if they were to give nero yamato back after getting his real Devil trigger it would be a fusion of Vergil (meaning it would be a Doppelganger) and like dmc5se when Vergil uses Devil trigger it's a double doing his own thing plus dancing
I remember seeing a blog about Nero vs Hellboy (which is a fire matchup btw) and they said Universal DMC wasn't real even though the first thing Dante does in DMC is kill a guy who made a whole universe
Yeah that was from G1 Blog. You should check out their Dante vs Bayonetta match up. They immediately walked back on the Nero vs Hellboy fight and said it was outdated.
What I wanna know is how strong is Red Queen!? Like Dante uses weapons that are incarnations of the demons he defeats, and Vergil uses a legendary blade. Red Queen is just a seemingly mundane, if experimental, sword made by humans. Yet its able to clash with Yamato and all these demons no problem. Or maybe we're just thinking way too hard about the wacky woo hoo pizza game
Nero can pour demonic energy into Blue Rose for Charged Shot. It's not impossible he's been reinforcing Red Queen the same way. Though there's a bit to consider there with how that works when he's missing an arm.
The Red Queen is a heavily modified Order of the Sword weapon (by Nero himself), so I think he also strengthened the blade to match up with his power. If he used ordinary sword it would quickly break due to his swinging strength.
@@madladdie7069 i'd like to think that Nero demonic power is that powerful it is uncontrolably overflowing throughout his body and some of those getting pour into Red Queen hence it strengthen the sword to be able to clash with higher tier devil arms
Nero manage to Defeat Vergil. And even being stabbed by the Yamoto. Nero manage to grab it, take it out like nothing. And Stabs Vergil’s which hurts him a lot when it didn’t hurt Nero. He Even manage to Stop The sin Devil Trigger while it was flying. When he did his Devil bringer
One thing that i think needs to be said about him stopping sin DT Dante and Vergil at the same time is a unique situation because at the time both Dante and Vergil very both heavily fatigued from their fight and that Nero was hoped up on energy from his newly realized DT which we all know gives you a incredible power boost and completely revitalizes you as was seen with Dante in DMC 3 when he unlocked his. Look i love Nero and I look forward to seeing what the future has in store for him and for him to surpass Dante and Vergil but that one feat needs to stop being taken out of context.
Vergil could beat Nero easily if former hasnt already been beaten and exhausted from the earlier bout to the death with Dante Still Nero wont just keel over
When nero realize he more powerfull than is unlce and father Nero: "Fuck you!" Dante: "whatever im gonna slip this one out" Vergil: "make haste dante!" V:...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Sparta brothers once cut every single drop of rain in like a ten foot radius, as a byproduct of a sword fight in the middle of a storm
That feat was fast back when Dante was starting out, but not anymore. From what I've seen, making raindrops appear frozen and cutting them, is a sub-relativistic feat. 1-5% the speed of light. I remember Raiden doing this against Monsoon in Ripper mode. Check out the video CRISIS made on how strong Raiden is, it's good. Anyway, that's basically motionless compared to where they are now.
The character and training arc nero got in dmc5 is one of my favorite dmc moments of all time cause u see nero trying his best to try to help stop vergil’s demon half despite his true power still being laid dormant and all. And despite his lack of demon abilities by the time he faced urizen again u actually see his growth when he forced urizen to take nero seriously as a threat all because he managed to land a strike on him. Which im ngl is some elite level character development imo
It would be very likely that his mother who we still know nothing about could have something to do with angels. Would make sense as DMC 5 Nero takes inspiration from dmc reboot dante
Angels are confirmed to not exist in DMC. Nero taking design inspirations from reboot Dante means nothing. The whole Angel motif for Nero isn't even from the reboot, it's from dmc4. Which was all in reference to Nelo Angelo.
I love nero he's very special to me as is dmc especially 4 and 5, I've been writing a fucking comic about him for a decade! My job is far from finished but at least I've seen that Capcom can learn from mistakes and roll with the punches, and that's enough for me to hold hope for the series well earned due. It's greater than gold, and it's radder than a decade old disaster, with enough red running through it's heart to have the proud soul burn brighter and faster than all the hells. It may take time but not every cloud need be quick to shed silver light over seeds which deserve all the love that comes with time well weighed in heart body and soul. I can't believe 5 is alright a half deserve old 4.3k likes 94,477 views 555 comment (556 this) posted 4 months ago 6.69k channel subs as of 9:33 pm ny time Wednesday August 9th 2023
A few days ago i watched a video on how strong Vergil is and it said that how he and Dante was so strong could theoretically because of his human blood The Qliphoth fruit is made from blood of humans and is the ONLY physical manifested item to give demon extreme power, so imagine Vergil/Dante, who has PURE demon blood flowing with HUMAN blood. The mix would basically give them immeasurable power and that is only when they're 50/50 hybrid So now think of Nero, who is 1/4 DEMON and 3/4 HUMAN HIS POWER HAS A HUGE CHANCE TO SURPASS BOTH VERGIL AND DANTE IF HE HAD THE COMBAT EXPERIENCE AND A PROPER WEAPON/DEVIL ARM
What is there to explain? Even though Vergil was weakened he entered his Sin DT multiple times (which is said to be universal if we’re power scaling…) against Nero who only had a regular DT which only scales to planetary or higher. Vergil wasn’t holding back since vergil literally told Dante that if he were to beat Nero that would mean he would win by default. Some say he was holding back which was highly doubtful since he cares about Nero just as much as he cares about Dante and that’s excluding the rivalry.
Nero's strength and power is coming from the power of his grandfather in him, he's more like Sparda so has more access and we see that his raw power is on par with Mundus such as what we see with Dante in 1 and Vergil is on par with Mundus thanks to the fruit and not being like his father is why his power he has from him is not accessible much.
People misunderstood Nero's fundamental demonic power: he can recall the power he's absorbed. Hell, he can recall the power of the Yamato through Showdown and could absorb Devil Breakers despite the new limb. P.S. I know Nico somehow knew that his body would take the new 'prototype' Breaker, but that suggests that Agnus understood the true nature of Nero's power and took notes for her to inherit.
The only thing I would complain about Nero is his Sword competing with other Devil Arms. True it was made by Agnus who is an impressive alchemist or whatever he does in The Order still kinda weird it can compete with other Devil Arms in terms of sheer killing potential against demons although the codex for dmc5 did state that the sword itself is so hard to control due to the engine that Nero is probably the only one who can use it and that's pretty badass for a technically Man-Made weapon
I have played dmc1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. Never that shit stain they tried to give us as “DMC.” And idk. I think at times Nero reminds me of dmc1 Dante. So angry. So emotional. So… “I SHOULDVE BEEN THE ONE TO FILL YOUR DARK SOUL WITH LIGHT!!!” Very much that. He just still feels like an outsider in the troupe. But I’m glad he’s got his Master Craftsman. Because he uh… let’s face it he needed a hand.
Great video, but there's one thing I always think about when I see the scene where Nero stops both Vergil and Dante. Since we saw that nero can absorb demonic power, couldn't he have absorbed power form those two as well? I always thought it was pretty wierd that both Vergil's and Dante's SDT were deactivated at the same time. That would make Nero even more powerful
Fun fact Bayonetta has actually confirmed that at least one of its universe's takes place in a alternate devil May cry universe with the lava scorpion spider that when upgraded by Bayonetta becomes literally "The Phantom" since Enzo is technically a character from devil May cry this makes Bayonetta canon devil May cry and shows the angels exist as well in DMC
Keep in mind nero isn't anywhere near his prime and hasn't fully progressed yet as far as demonic power goes,yet he held his own in fights against Dante as a teenager and in dmc 5 he alone can stop the charging assault of both dante and Vergil in devil trigger And Nero only just fully developed his devil trigger for the first time So yeah Nero despite being young has already more or less caught up to his dad and uncle who are both op as shit,and he still has room to grow considering Dante and Vergil were both still getting stronger in 5 despite being kind of old
Ill say nero fuels on his motives just like dante did in the earlier games making him powerful instantly to achieve his goals his speed is not changed he's fast regardless
I think an interesting note for Nero is, unlike Vergil or Dante who have the rebellion and Yamato that unlocks their power, the Yamato releasing it automatically over time I assume and the rebellion requiring Dante to be stabbed to unlock it, Nero essentially has to unlock his power through sheer will. Which shows on top of everything, his potential through his resolve alone.
I think Nero is at the same level of Dante from DMC1. DMC5 really felt like DMC3 for Nero. I definitely think Nero has only started his path to power and has a long way to go before he's anywhere near Dante/Vergil level.
Nero is way above dmc1 Dante. In dmc4, Nero with Yamato was able to make dmc4 Dante actually pant from exhaustion and even state in the novels that he wasn't pulling his punches. This already debunks what you've said, as dmc2 Dante, who is weaker than dmc4 Dante was able to effortlessly kill Void Mundus and Argosax. Both of them are way stronger than Mundus from dmc1. And yet, a stronger Dante still struggled with Nero. Then dmc5 Nero come along and makes your statement even more invalid. In mission 8 (so not even full power DT Nero) was able to destroy Urizen's crystal in under an hour. Doesn't sound like much, until you realize dmc5 prologue Dante spent an entire day fighting Urizen and didn't destroy the crystal once. And that was a Urizen who was still fresh from being split and wasn't blood boosted. The Urizen Nero fought was after an entire month of being blood boosted. So dmc5 mission 8 Nero is stronger than dmc5 prologue Dante. Dmc1 Dante gets one shotted by Nero. It doesn't matter that dmc5 is "dmc3 for Nero" because he shows explicit feats for being way stronger than you think he is.
@@xenowarrior282 You couldbe a little nicer but I see. I hear about the novels but I have no idea where to read them. I would disagree about the Mission 8 Nero vs Prologue Dante though. Nero was motivated, which is a big boost in this series as I'm sure you know. The reason I said DMC1 Dante is because the only time Nero fought Urizen without the shield, he got his ass kicked hard, even with motivation. They said Urizen is stronger than Mundus and Argosax and everyone else, so I assumed Nero would be on their level. It's a little complicated when he has his Devil Trigger though...
If Sparda were Goku, Nero would be Goten. It makes perfect sense why he's strong, but now he needs a Devil Arm (Demon weapon) to Amp off of. I really don't want it to be Yamato but idk what else could happen
I have a theory that the reason for Nero’s exponential growth in comparison to his father and uncle is strongly tied to his genetics. I mean think about it. We know demons gain power from consuming human blood, which is the precipice for Mundus’s and Urizen’s strength, but without it they sort of slow down if not stagnate. Vergil, Dante, and Nero were probably lucky to be born and born the way they are because they maintained their demon heritage but have human genes to feed their demonic parts, essentially causing a stable constant increase of their power even if they don’t train (or at least make it difficult to lose the strengths they’ve gained if they’ve been slacking off). Now the difference I’m trying to discuss is the difference in ratio between the Sparda brothers and Nero. That is, that Nero does get stronger because his genes allow more human blood to fuel a smaller amount of demon gene, making it more effective and efficient in growth than Dante and Vergil. For essentially, Nero has overall more “Human Resources” to feed his demonic genes by 1.5x over the Sparda brothers, whilst he doesn’t have to worry about potentially stretching his blood as thin as the Sparda brothers because his demonic parts are half the size of theirs.
I think the fact alone that "Demons get stronger with Human Blood" here, points to the potential of what if a Human has a tiny bit spark of Demonic bloodline in them? Wouldn't it empower them even more? Surely that there's a optimal level of Demon & Human Mix, that empowers them. I mean what if a Demon Blood that is running through a Demi-Human's that gets empowered with the Half-Human or even more Human blood?
Yeah I don't think Mundus going to have two nelo angelos if he finds Dante and Vergil, he's definitely dead if he meets the sons of Sparda as they are now.
Dude, Mundus hasn’t even been a player once we saw Dante grape Abigail by tapping into DT and blitz argosax in a split second later without ever using DT. Mundus is a bitch demon compared to our guys now
Isn’t demonic power essentially fuelled by human blood? With Nero being a 1/4 demon and a descendent of Sparda no less, constantly receiving all that human blood in him. He’s not stronger than Dante or Vergil since he dosent even have his own devil arm. Nero actually has an insane amount of potential.
It's honestly impressive for someone who is using a Human modified Sword to keep up with all of this, imagine if he had true Devil Sword that suits him
Okay Dante is still the best MC the DMC series has to offer, but, my personal fave has to be Nero. It's just he's a more grounded character than dante granted he is weaker but that didn't stop him to stand up to Urizen nor Dante and Vergil ( I haven't played any of the games except DMC 3 and 4)
So if the more human blood you have the stronger you are then Nero's kid would be stronger than him. I think it's a weird thing, maybe there's just a mistake in the power scaling because of the storytelling. I like to think that the emotions make them stronger
For some reason I feel that Nero is a reincarnation of his Grandfather Sparda because his Devil Trigger form silhouette looks similar to the statue of Sparda in DMC4 but I can be wrong
Something else that probably makes Nero stronger is that he has people to protect, *personally*. Kyrie and the three kids they’re raising together are who Nero is truly fighting for at the end of the day, while Dante and Vergil don’t really fight for anyone specific, and more-so just to make a living or just because they can. Like a true anime protagonist… his love is his power.
Like this if Vergil should be next
Can you really scale him? He's too motivated.
@@sephykira3825 my mom said I’m allowed to
Yes
@@sephykira3825 True, my motivation alone is immeasurable.
@@NahIdSword Wow, can I get a digital autograph to remind me to gain power?
I think one thing people need to remember is that Vergil (even in the cutscene before the final boss fight) acknowledges Nero's new power (saying "This is... curious", "what form of power is this?", "interesting"). If there is ONE THING that Vergil is usually spot on about, it's about the measure of power. Sure, Vergil was tentative about it (likely due to his own ego) but he still recognizes it.
Thank you for wrapping this up in an easy description.
@@DigitaltYT You're quite welcome.
Massive fan of the DMC series, especially 5, and I'm a sucker for lore and theory crafting for the series.
Makes sense. The level of power the twins have after their buffs are literally insane. Nero being comparable to that is indeed curious.
Bro is just behind the times, he ain't ready for this Metal Gear Solid 5 bs
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola I wasn't really talking about just the robo-hand (which Nero's Breakers blow PS's hands out of the water anyway), but about the supped up power of Nero's DT, that came from sheer will alone, rather than magic fusion (Dante with Rebellion and Sparda) or a power-up apple and recombining (V and Urizen coming back together probably gave that fruit's power a massive boost).
So, yeah, Nero's cracked with the power of "F U" energy.
Another point is, he unlocked his devil trigger through sheer will unlike dante and vergil who had to get stabbed with their swords
Ironically Nero is the first one to unlock his DT through thinking about Family and Love and justice like Sparda sacrificing himself and splitting his power to save Mankind and woke up to Justice
yes but they dont need get stabbed, rebellion only need dante's blood to be activated and yamato is already that powerful that vergil unlocked his devil trigger when he summoned it as a child
@@muhammadhaikalnurrahman4909 just realized that Nero doesnt eevn have a devil arm (ha ha cause devil bringer) which is even more impressive
It’s because Nero was born with natural Awakening of his powers but he doesn’t know where to store it why his devil bringer grew because he couldn’t control his demonic power without an devil arm like Dante and vergil’s hence why they have to Stab themselves to awaken it
@@Omega-jg4oqit’s because he doesn’t need a Devil arm and if he doesn’t well he would be less powerful because the weapon would store all of Nero’s power into it limiting his potential
So tired of my boy Nero getting underrated, so this was a great video. I've had to tell people time and time again that yes, despite Dante and Vergil being tired, Nero stopping BOTH of them with minimal effort in the middle of their strongest forms, and blitzing eachother with full intent to kill, is still extremely impressive as a feat. Especially since that is only his BASE Devil Trigger.
he also had his base DT for 0.000000000000000000001 seconds before performing said feat. To me, Nero is like Gohan from Cell saga, in his potential to grow compared to his father at the time.
@@DigitaltYT100% agree.
Feels like Nero's in his prime for some really bonkers potential. He's capable of all he is without even an actual Devil Arm weapon.
Also we see in the vergil version of mission 20 that both Dante and vergil had tons of energy left. And mission 19 only lasted in verse for 23 minutes
I mean, taking down DMC5 Vergil even with Vergil tired out is still a hell of a feat. Nero could easily 1v1 Mundus.
Nero literally pulled a arkhan on them, sure he is strong, but people are fanboying over him way too hard if they think that if he tryied to pull that off with vergil and dante at their peak he would be anything other than a literal bloodstain.
I think the reason the half human half demons are stronger than the pure demons is that pure demons need to consume human blood to gain power or as the qliphot works need human blood to form the qliphot fruit to make whoever demon eats it powerful
But in the case for Nero, Dante and Vergil they already have a steady supply of human blood built in for them
@Dominick Clark there's not really a reason to believe that. yes, he's more human but he's also less demon. it could go either way. or maybe the two balance each other out.
@@madladdie7069 more demon is more default power whereas more human is more growth
@@thegamerserpent4271 so... Lady has infinite growth?
Btw, where does the fact that human blood being the source of demonic power come from?
EDIT: Trish says it I believe around the time of Dante's dance.
@@madladdie7069 dmc 5. V explained it.
great video for nero. he's downplayed a lot more than he deserves. glad you didn't lean into him "defeating" vergil by himself at the end of 5. since it's heavily implied that vergil was testing nero's strength and the gameplay itself even reflects it as he was no where near as aggressive in his fight with nero as he was with dante in the previous mission. i think nero is definitely in the same ball park as dante and vergil. but i don't think he could defeat either of them in a 1v1 if they were actually trying to kill him.
In a straight up fight I don’t see Nero as is defeating a fully restored Dante or Vergil. The potential is crazy high though where his DT was able to do what it did to two SDT Sparda bois.
So that's why it was multitudes easier than with Dante. And that my DT was constantly regenerating.
@@proximityclockworkx1572 *nero
I don’t think he could defeat either of them in a serious fight yet, but he seems to have a higher rate of growth than the other two.
Given what we know about Sparda, than Vergil, Nero could very well capable of become more powerful than Vergil (or Dante), but as of right now, he ain't strong enough yet.
A little known fact is why nero's arm was stuck in his devil trigger state: since he didnt have full control over it, after his right arm got injured his demonic abilities tried to heal it, but it simultaneously was destroying it. Causing his arm to be in a state of limbo being healed and damaged. This means that his healing factor to regrow his arm is not limited to just his arm. Since if he was injured anywhere else the effect would have been the same
another great point is Dante saying "it's because you're here that we can go, we're trusting you things on this side" or something like that which says he's strong enough to protect the humans
I feel like Nero represents raw talent while Dante and Vergil each represent different ways of growing stronger through hard work. Dante could be summed up as the master of a thousand weapons while Vergil mastered a single weapon a thousand times, so to speak.
Nero differs from his father and uncle in that his strength doesn't seem to be skill based, but rather appears to be a potential that exists inside of him that is drawn out through sheer force of will, allowing him to perform incredible feats through desire and motivation. Effectively, what it looks like is that the stronger his emotions are, the greater the feats he can accomplish. It's unclear whether certain emotions are more potent than others, or if it's just emotion in general that fuels him. He does generally seem to default to drawing out a sort of controlled anger as his preferred combat state, savagely and crudely attacking enemies like a berserker while still being focused enough to crack one liners similar to Dante's.
To be fair, Dante himself has a ton of raw talent. Nero's more about power and power alone. He can surpass Dante on strength (or well he could if Dante* didn't absorb the power of a local deity) but he'll never be the guy who masters a weapon immediately after picking it up.
You fully understood nero man, he uses his raw talent and will only ... i am pretty sure he was always skipped credo trainings from the way he swings his sword
@@madladdie7069 Sorry for the late reply, just noticed that there were replies while scrolling through some of my old comments.
I should probably clarify, when I refer to Nero seeming to be more about raw talent, I'm strictly comparing him to Dante and Vergil, and not Dante and/or Vergil to ordinary humans. That is to say, yes, Dante for example does have a lot of native talent compared to any ordinary human, but his growth as a powerhouse is (with exception to unlocking and enhancing his DT form) linked to his skill far more than any physical growth. The clearest way of seeing this is by comparing Dante in DMC3 to his DMC4 and 5 counterparts. His skill as a fighter has grown tremendously from his origin days as a rookie demon hunter just setting up shop for the first time.
Nero on the other hand doesn't seem to rely on growing his skill, but rather becomes a powerhouse due to a combination of emotion and raw talent alone. He doesn't seem to gain much power from hard work, but rather always seems to grow stronger due to absorbing artifacts into his arm (such as the Yamato) and/or experiencing powerful bursts of emotion. This might even be why his attacks are so crude and lacking in precision; He's unconcerned with technique and relies more on just general raw power, with his most reliable means of drawing it out being through a controlled rage.
@@Crow_Rising That's fair. I'm of the same opinion. Though I don't think Nero's crudeness comes from a lack of concern.
He either doesn't or believes he doesn't have the skill to handle things in any other way than brute force which is what he excels at. Unlike Dante who probably could have outperformed Nero at first but chooses not to, Nero has to rely on his strength alone.
Though this doesn't really apply in 5 given how Nero's outclassing pre-SDT Dante now and there it's probably force of habit (or just the threat just being that much more deadly).
@@madladdie7069 Out-of-universe, my speculation as to why Nero's attacks are so crude and imprecise is because he's meant to be something of a middle ground between Dante and Vergil. Like Vergil, he's very focused on drawing out huge amounts of power to defeat his enemies. However, unlike Vergil his usage of this power is very brutish and lacking in elegance. Meanwhile, like Dante he gets a thrill out of the whole thing, enjoying the rush of combat and getting caught up in the moment.
In-universe, my speculation is it could have to do with him being the grandson of Sparda. While Dante and Vergil are Sparda's direct progeny, each being half demons, Nero is three fourths human. As such, it could be that his usage of his demon powers is much more limited than it is for his father and uncle. This could be why he needs to rely on powerful emotions and absorbing magical artifacts to draw out more power. Natively, even with Sparda of all demons as his grandfather, he just doesn't have as large of a pool to draw power from as Dante and Vergil do.
An interesting sidenote is that with Nero being just as strong as Sparda, Dante and Vergil implies that demonic heritage doesn't get diluted by generational gaps, which makes sense as demons tend to get stronger from human blood rather than weaker. This could also potentially point to all of Sparda's descendants being able to tap into massive demonic power
I think what make them strong is the indomitable human will being a catalyst for the demonic power
it could be something like all people of demonic inheritance having the same level of demonic power with it only being passed on if the individual themselves uses that power.
but if it works similar to genetics then there will be a point where there isn't enough demon there for the human side to power up.
if you put it like that, there's possibly a chance that the more human you are, the stronger you are
Dante did mention to Angus in DMC4 that Demon lack a heart.
With Nero confirming that having the heart to love another person is what Sanctus lacks, but Sparda had one even as a demon.
So having a heart that's capable of loving another person is a source of immense strength in-verse. On-top of the human blood theory.
Nero could be getting stronger not only thanks to being even more human, but also having Kyrie in his life.
"Nero forced Urizen to stand up"
i mean narratively it is hella impressive.
not even dante in the opening chapter could do that which means that nero in mission 13( or whatever mission it is) is stronger than dante was in chapter 0
@@1Lyfe.Of.Designer so no devil trigger nero > only devil trigger dante
@@Kedilaa yes
Finally someone's putting RESPECT on my bois name and character with the evidence to back it up.
Btw since Nero awakened his full DT powers he'll continue to get stronger with time and experience since his DT is in it's "infancy" stage. I say that because ever since Dante awoke his own powers his form kept changing over time and his strength grew as a result of getting older.
Absolutely
@@DigitaltYT absolute? POWER?
Imagine Nero Sin DT
@@salmonhippo9824 I don't think Sin DT is inherent though. It just feels like what happens when you gain a ton of power.
@@salmonhippo9824yep one day probably in Dmc 8 or Dmc 9 we’ll see Nero take on a sin or majin like form
I really like this video because it brings up the thoughts I have had for a while as it gave me a realization....Nero is still young. With more experience and possibly unlocking his own Sin DT, he could be the most powerful character in Devil May Cry seeing as he was more powerful than Dante before from DMC4 at the same age Dante was in DMC3. Which all really puts into perspective of just how powerful Nero will become when he hits his 30s onward if he keeps on progressing like this.
And finally, this brings up a theory of mine...maybe the Sparda brothers aren't so strong because of their Demonic blood enhancing their human bodies, but instead their Human souls enhancing their Demonic power? I mean, Dante and Vergil are half human, and yet they are stronger than Sparda, and Nero is three fourths human and is stronger than a Dante in his 30s at the age of 19.
That doesn't actually make that much sense when you consider that unless there's a hard cut off point, a person with like 0.000001% demon blood would by that logic be essentially god, and we don't really hear about anyone like that in the series, even with how long demons have existed and people trying to combine demon blood with humans.
@@bigchungus6827because 99.9 percent of demons never actually feel emotions especially love and compassion sparda being the .1 percent
@@bigchungus6827and also the order of the sword were doing experiments to mix demon blood with humans
@@jbcoolerninja I guess? None of that really addresses the issue I brought up. Even if Sparda was a .1%, there are a lot of demons out there, and it doesn't provide any mechanical explanation for how this wouldn't get exponentially stupider as you go down a family tree.
This is awesome!
I also think Nero is super powerful but he lacks certain advanced moves that his uncles have and yet has some that they do have. For instance his Whip devil breaker if you use the ultimate attack it seems like its Neros own version of Judgement cut end(but you have to use it on a giant enemy)
Even the whips secondary combo makes it look like Vergils regular Judgment cut
Alsp If you think about it when Nero had his Devil Arm. Its kinda like he had permanent devil trigger on but only on his arm.
And lastly if you look at Neros Horns. Theyres the same horns as Nelo Angelo. And you might be thinking that that means Nero is being compared to Vergil but nah. Vergil was the replacement Dark Knight for sparda the original Dark Knight. Nero os the only Sparda boy to fall in love with somebody just like Sparda. Hes the new Sparda.
Urizen = Demon King
Trish/Cavellier = Nelo Angelo
V= Demon Kings Shadow
And Nero was V's Dark Knight for DMC 5
This is great but hope you can make Vergil is stronger than you think
Oh yeah. I will move that higher in the queue
I WILL BE THE FIRST TO COMMENT IF YOU POST IT AFTER SCHOOL
The problem is, everyone knows he is stronger than everyone thinks
@Vergil *POWER*
@Vergil And we are Vergils.
Respect for my boy. He's my favorite to play as.
Actually, he uses two arms for each of Dante and Vergil, which kinda makes it look even more impressive.
Those wings really shine in his DT form.
I've never noticed Nero's DT arms grabbing Dante and Vergil until reading this comment 🫥
@@handsomezackIts kind of obscure, especially with first timers usually focusing on the center of the screen, trying to see Nero's DT form
he's got his physical hands on dante and vergil, and the DT hands are stopping their swords! it's a neat detail that i never noticed myself until recently
The Red Queen is actually quite impressive itself. It's not a devil arm, but it has come to blows with some of the most powerful devil arms. It withstood direct contact with Berial's sword and also his body, despite bullets supposedly melting before they can touch him. It has also clashed with several of Dante's weapons as well as the Yamato.
Not to mention it has a mechanism to superheat itself. This should decrease it's durability since this is literally how you shape steel into a sword to begin with.
about red queen, i'd like to think other than the ability to rev up and withstand incredible degree of heat/temperature, it just a normal regular sword nothing really special about it. but the reason it can clash with the most busted devil arms like Yamato is Nero demonic power is so strong and it constantly overflowing through his body it strengthen a regular man made sword to be able to do that.
It’s also hilarious to me that the blades of rebellion and yamato have been completely shattered whereas the only part of red queen to have ever been damaged was the fuel injector
I like to think that Nero has basically been unconsciously forging the red queen into his own personal devil arm.
@@loopygordo he’s probably reinforcing it with Demonic Energy
@@loopygordo I wish we would see Devil Sword Nero one day, that would be hype
*Short version/Conclusion at the end*
This video draw my attention back to my personal problem with powerscaling specially in anime based eastern media:
It's not about being unrealistic, but just mad uncomprehendable.
From Dragon Ball, to Bleach, to Bayonetta, to DMC, the feats and powers are BEYOND what the writters themselves can even grasp, but they add those anyway for the sake of showing how "incredibly powerful" the character is supposed to be. This style of writting makes the plot and feats "problematic" at best, where they either become inconsistent, or outright contradicts themselves and common sense, as they writters only understand the basic concept, but clearly cannot comprehend/visibly imagine the full amount of forces, they are trying to portray.
It makes audiences like myself enjoy the content at bedt, when we actively AVOID to see it we with common sense.
If you ever watched or read Dragon Ball devates, then you'd surely understand where I'm coming from. There clear differences between the powerscaling of something like DBZ, Bleach, Jujutsu K and JJBA, to let's say Beserk, Baki, or Gintama. I would put shows like OP, Naruto, MHA and Fire Froce somewhere in the middleground.
In Conclusion:
*Anime-based media have a trope of depicting/including feats far beyond the comprehension of their audience and writters, creating both inconsistencies and doubts in the credibilities of their plots because of that.*
Thanks for reading 🤙
A respectable opinion, but upon closer inspection there are aspects of this argument which come across as logically fallacious and unfortunately renders your argument as this in its entirety. Chief amongst them which I'll be addressing is the automatic assumption that fiction must be 1-1 enough with reality in its power scaling as an ironclad rule in writing for the sake of our suspension of disbelief as though planet destroyers are anymore absurd then all the other super powers and such in fiction. I mean when you get down to the science and especially if you don't have a religious predisposition then things like souls, non physical entities, etc. that you see in dag Casper the Friendly Ghost should be driving you crazy, but it doesn't. Heck Homelander from the boys breaks so many laws of physics you wouldn't believe with the obvious being a man of his height and weight generating forces strong enough to pummel through buildings. Or we can go to Deadpool and his ability to spontaneously generate new cells which would require absurd amounts of activation energy that'd burn a hole in the ground. In either case, it really comes down to how far your suspension of disbelief goes and how much you can handle the well, *fictional* attributes of fiction cause a person can range from handling what you'd call absurdity to balking at fiction in general for portraying fictional events as is because it's just not *realistic enough*. Just my two cents on your take and given the examples I provided above your issue shouldn't just be with Japanese media, but fictional media as a whole by your own logic as American comics are quite guilty of what you accuse Japanese media of being to cite some obvious examples (i.e. Omniman, Superman, etc.).
All in all I must reiterate that I respect your opinion. However, it is not one which can't be pushed back against.
And that is why there is something called *_lore_* in fiction (ALL fiction).
There's this manhwa called Tower Of God, one of the very first things introduced is the concept of Shinsu existing on every floor, and the higher one climbs the more pressure they feel (a twist on gravity and oceanic pressure).
So while you keep reading, you know for a fact that every floor is filled to the brim with basically an ocean of shinsu, so when you SEE a fish seemingly FLYING, you understand fully that the "logic" behind this is that Shinsu exists everywhere in the tower so it's a fish that evolved to "swim" in shinsu.
This is all to say that *_pre-established lore_* plays an important role in the audience being able fully comprehend and digest what they're seeing in a fictional world no matter how unrealistic and absurd.
It doesn't even NEED to be something grand, even human level characters need to be consistent with the lore for said fiction to make sense. (you mentioned Baki)
It's not about _suspending your disbelief_ for the story, it's about understanding that it IS fiction. The story is either good despite the absurdity OR it's bad regardless. example; "Avengers: Infinity War" was great but "Ant-Man: Quantumania" is trash, both absurdly unrealistic but clearly, the "rules" are defined to where comprehension is possible.
Anyway, how is Baki more forgiving than One Piece, and how is One Piece more forgiving than Bleach? I'd like to hear how you rationalize this, because from where I'm standing, they're all fiction... absurd in their own ways just as they are unique in their own ways.
I don't think splitting the sky with haki is more absurd than stopping an earthquake with a punch (prove me wrong tho)
I honestly prefer when The Power scaling is more like JoJo, there isn't a "weak" stand because The battles are more about outsmarting rather than outright beating The opponent
@@nicholassgobero On that I agree. Another example of a rather balanced scaling chain in a show seems to be Inuyasha from what I've seen of it thus far (just made it to the third movie).
"Anime based Eastern media"
May introduce you the DC universe?
Those Wings actually are the Devil Bringer because it has all abilities like before but Showdown & Maximum Bet need to be purchased from the Goddess aka Divinity Statue and using the claws for Bringer Claw, Nero's Demonic Side pretty much knows how much he loves the old Devil Bringer and also sentient of sorts to appreciate the Devil Breakers. The Customization shows the Demonic Arm in DT is for the logo of Devil Bringer because just looks, same as Punchline for Devil Breaker instead of an Arm we don't see but wouldn't make sense or be what fans want since they wouldn't know or see it outside of being a logo.
Lusachia and Fury's files explain that demon evolution works very quickly and is driven by desire. If a demon wants to be fast, it's child will have mutated to be far faster than it. It would stand to reason that any child of Vergil will have mutated to be far more powerful than him since power is his strongest desire.
So you're saying Nero is stronger than Vergil because he's more motivated.
I love that someone is finally giving my boi the credit he deserves. I think to most people, its pretty obvious in mission 20 Vergil isn't trying to outright kill nero, but the thing everyone forgets is Nero isn't trying to kill him either! Nero explicitly says he doesn't want anyone else dying, and even though Vergil probably isn't trying to kill him, he still wants to win. Vergil stated that since he knocked Dante out with a sucker punch, that if he beats Nero he beats Dante, so he was taking the fight seriously and he still lost! Am I saying Nero beats Dante or Vergil in the 1v1, probably not. But he's younger with vastly less experience and is already popping off. DMC and Redgrave are in good hands with Nero keeping watch.
Sparda: that's my grandson so proud
Dante and vergil: what about us dad?
Sparda: keeps quite
😂😅
Great video. The only thing I could point out is at the very end, if you watch closely, he uses two hands per twin. His physical arms stop their bodies, and his wing/claw/hands catch their swords. I still agree with your point, just a small detail I noticed.
Yeah, I saw about 20 comments today note that today too lol. Guess I shoulda said hit DT hands helped too. Appreciate the feedback
Dead weight ❌
Death outweighing Aura ✅
Strengthen by desires to protect his family
Their says desire whats drive demon to power
you missed one improtant detail
"that bitch slap nearly killed me!"
I mean, Dante was pretty much totally gassed at that point.
That whole "Human blood = Strongest source of demonic power" thing is probably pretty useful for Nero.
Don't forget that they all have self actualizing power due to having demonic power, this was evident in the Deadly Fortune novel when Nero basically wanted Sanctus to be erased from existence and that's what happens and don't forget that the Savior was actually trouble for Dante, the big Lazer attack from the Savior was so powerful that Dante had to go into Dreadnaught form and even then he couldn't move because the power and force of the beam was restricting his movements
@because I'm batman probably, people think the Savior isn't that powerful but it was literally a demon king level threat
@because I'm batman yeah, Sanctus was slightly weaker when Nero fought him due to Yamato separating Nero from the Savior but even then he was still leagues above anything Arkham could even dream of, also, not to be a memester but Nero had more drive and motivation in 4 than both Dante and Vergil did in 3, especially Dante so his power growth would increase exponentially, especially with Yamato, also, Novels aren't separate, DMC 4 Deadly Fortune is just DMC 4 in more depth, in the novel Dante himself said Nero may be even stronger than him so the fact that DMC 4 Dante thinks Nero by the end of 4 is at least comparable to him is enough evidence to say he would wash DMC 3 Dante and Vergil
@because I'm batman Bariel also directly compared Nero to Vergil and got scared, also, people forget that Nero has bean fighting nearly his whole life since he was apart of the Order of the Sword and was the most skilled and most capable fighter they ever had and the Sparda's gets stronger the most they fight while also passively getting stronger just by aging, so it makes since why, with Yamato, Nero is so damn powerful but currently, Dante and Vergil outclass him by a huge margin due to constantly fighting each other in the demon World so after the 22 day time skip, they are exponentially stronger than they were after Nero beat Vergil
@because I'm batman there's always alternate timelines and dimensions, DMC multiverse has already somewhat been established, Dante goes to one in the DMC 2 Novel but I assume you already knew that since you mentioned Void Mundus earlier, there can always be something
i think nero's can also cut through space and time in dmc5 when we use maximum bet we can see effect like when vergil uses his jugement cut and i think nero's ture power is to absor demonic energy from others and i think he has absorbed some demonic energy for dante and vergils sin devil trigger
I mean that move is purchased from the Goddess so ofc that spectral Yamato would but it's mainly given the extra damage from the claws of his new Devil Bringer.
Any high tier demon can bend space and time over theirs knee and spank it.
Yes this a ability build in to theirs physiology
If Dante and Vergil are half human and their sin triggers look devilish while neros look human ish, imagine a couple of generations we get a completely normal human looking sparda descendant with the power of destroying the universe
So Dante is so much faster than Nero but Nero is just really really jacked that makes sense
Worth noting that Mero was standing between Dante and Vergil when he stopped them, effectively using their own force as an anchor and counter balance for the other to make stopping them easier. I think it's more impressive that he didnt get squished like a gnat
3:24 I still remember when I said this and the whole DMC fanbase went on witch hunt in my comment section years ago lmao granted I said Nero was slightly stronger than Dante & Vergil
Remember, super saiyan multiplier is 50 and super saiyan god multiplier is 80 mil
You forgot that he almost bitch slap Dante to death 😂😂
#justiceForDante
Crazy is that Nero is still very young and not anywhere close to being truly reaching his full power. He's going to end up surpassing Vergil and Dante no doubt
And even unlock Sin DT naturally eventually
Just as he did with his true DT
Nero getting past Urizen's barrier is insane.Dante in devil trigger and armed with the Sparda couldn't break through. Dante was already stronger in base than he was in his sparda form fighting Mundus, and even after adding a similar devil trigger amp, he couldn't make a dent. Yet Nero with no devil trigger and no yamato could smash through it through sheer willpower. Nero is just built different, even by DMC standards
Thanks Vergil. You probably let him get through because Nero is your son, appreciate you going easy on the kid
@@DigitaltYT that sounds rather BS
if it's for things begin easier for Nero, all I can imagen is Urizen nolonger paying attention and duss the sword is on auto mode and is more fragile since it's nolonger feed blood aswell
@@yep1486 huh?
Also nero can beet urizen with one arm in the prologue when dante was beaten even while using devil trigger
❤Love the Videos! Keep up the good work!
There is an entry in the data files for the demon enemies. The Fury runs so fast it slips in and out of space time. Dante's first interaction with it he casually clowns on it, in base.
Glad you enjoyed the videos!
@@DigitaltYTThe Fury can potential move through time and space so fast at sheer speed meaning that the Fury has Immeasurable Speed when it fought against Dante.
I don't know if some will agree or laugh at me but the devil trigger of nero in Devil may cry 4 looks like Vergil doppelganger technique so I think that the dt of nero in DMC 4 is actually a Doppelganger/power boost
And that if they were to give nero yamato back after getting his real Devil trigger it would be a fusion of Vergil (meaning it would be a Doppelganger) and like dmc5se when Vergil uses Devil trigger it's a double doing his own thing plus dancing
I remember seeing a blog about Nero vs Hellboy (which is a fire matchup btw) and they said Universal DMC wasn't real even though the first thing Dante does in DMC is kill a guy who made a whole universe
Yeah that was from G1 Blog.
You should check out their Dante vs Bayonetta match up. They immediately walked back on the Nero vs Hellboy fight and said it was outdated.
Now we just need one motivated boi to complete the trilogy.
It was more like a hand and a wing talon each. He held their bodies with his hands but used the wing talons to keep their weapons at bay.
What I wanna know is how strong is Red Queen!? Like Dante uses weapons that are incarnations of the demons he defeats, and Vergil uses a legendary blade. Red Queen is just a seemingly mundane, if experimental, sword made by humans. Yet its able to clash with Yamato and all these demons no problem.
Or maybe we're just thinking way too hard about the wacky woo hoo pizza game
Nero can pour demonic energy into Blue Rose for Charged Shot. It's not impossible he's been reinforcing Red Queen the same way.
Though there's a bit to consider there with how that works when he's missing an arm.
The Red Queen is a heavily modified Order of the Sword weapon (by Nero himself), so I think he also strengthened the blade to match up with his power. If he used ordinary sword it would quickly break due to his swinging strength.
@@msf2000 It could be a similar situation to V's cane.
@@madladdie7069 i'd like to think that Nero demonic power is that powerful it is uncontrolably overflowing throughout his body and some of those getting pour into Red Queen hence it strengthen the sword to be able to clash with higher tier devil arms
Nero manage to Defeat Vergil. And even being stabbed by the Yamoto. Nero manage to grab it, take it out like nothing. And Stabs Vergil’s which hurts him a lot when it didn’t hurt Nero. He Even manage to Stop The sin Devil Trigger while it was flying. When he did his Devil bringer
Honestly I do hope we get a dmc6 one day to see more of nero. even if nero is the new face of dmc I would not mind to be honest.
One thing that i think needs to be said about him stopping sin DT Dante and Vergil at the same time is a unique situation because at the time both Dante and Vergil very both heavily fatigued from their fight and that Nero was hoped up on energy from his newly realized DT which we all know gives you a incredible power boost and completely revitalizes you as was seen with Dante in DMC 3 when he unlocked his. Look i love Nero and I look forward to seeing what the future has in store for him and for him to surpass Dante and Vergil but that one feat needs to stop being taken out of context.
Vergil could beat Nero easily if former hasnt already been beaten and exhausted from the earlier bout to the death with Dante
Still Nero wont just keel over
Nero has Ultra Instinct Devil Trigger.
When nero realize he more powerfull than is unlce and father
Nero: "Fuck you!"
Dante: "whatever im gonna slip this one out"
Vergil: "make haste dante!"
V:...
Finally my boy getting some respect
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Sparta brothers once cut every single drop of rain in like a ten foot radius, as a byproduct of a sword fight in the middle of a storm
Yes, but that's not exactly impressive in terms of speed. That's not even lightning speed iirc.
There's tons of better speed feats than that
That feat was fast back when Dante was starting out, but not anymore. From what I've seen, making raindrops appear frozen and cutting them, is a sub-relativistic feat. 1-5% the speed of light. I remember Raiden doing this against Monsoon in Ripper mode. Check out the video CRISIS made on how strong Raiden is, it's good. Anyway, that's basically motionless compared to where they are now.
I mean he's immesurable now so that feat really aint shit.
The character and training arc nero got in dmc5 is one of my favorite dmc moments of all time cause u see nero trying his best to try to help stop vergil’s demon half despite his true power still being laid dormant and all. And despite his lack of demon abilities by the time he faced urizen again u actually see his growth when he forced urizen to take nero seriously as a threat all because he managed to land a strike on him. Which im ngl is some elite level character development imo
Looks like tinkering is a sparda family specialty
It would be very likely that his mother who we still know nothing about could have something to do with angels. Would make sense as DMC 5 Nero takes inspiration from dmc reboot dante
Angels are confirmed to not exist in DMC. Nero taking design inspirations from reboot Dante means nothing.
The whole Angel motif for Nero isn't even from the reboot, it's from dmc4. Which was all in reference to Nelo Angelo.
@@xenowarrior282i wouldn’t say confirmed
I love dead weight. His play style is probably my favorite cause I bring or zip enemy’s around and those devil arms are fun.
I was thinking about this video and when I search your channel it is already uploaded three minutes ago.
lol that timing
He's not dead weight but he does dead lift
He`s Deathweight
I love nero he's very special to me as is dmc especially 4 and 5, I've been writing a fucking comic about him for a decade! My job is far from finished but at least I've seen that Capcom can learn from mistakes and roll with the punches, and that's enough for me to hold hope for the series well earned due. It's greater than gold, and it's radder than a decade old disaster, with enough red running through it's heart to have the proud soul burn brighter and faster than all the hells.
It may take time but not every cloud need be quick to shed silver light over seeds which deserve all the love that comes with time well weighed in heart body and soul.
I can't believe 5 is alright a half deserve old
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A few days ago i watched a video on how strong Vergil is and it said that how he and Dante was so strong could theoretically because of his human blood
The Qliphoth fruit is made from blood of humans and is the ONLY physical manifested item to give demon extreme power, so imagine Vergil/Dante, who has PURE demon blood flowing with HUMAN blood. The mix would basically give them immeasurable power and that is only when they're 50/50 hybrid
So now think of Nero, who is 1/4 DEMON and 3/4 HUMAN
HIS POWER HAS A HUGE CHANCE TO SURPASS BOTH VERGIL AND DANTE IF HE HAD THE COMBAT EXPERIENCE AND A PROPER WEAPON/DEVIL ARM
What is there to explain? Even though Vergil was weakened he entered his Sin DT multiple times (which is said to be universal if we’re power scaling…) against Nero who only had a regular DT which only scales to planetary or higher. Vergil wasn’t holding back since vergil literally told Dante that if he were to beat Nero that would mean he would win by default. Some say he was holding back which was highly doubtful since he cares about Nero just as much as he cares about Dante and that’s excluding the rivalry.
Nero's strength and power is coming from the power of his grandfather in him, he's more like Sparda so has more access and we see that his raw power is on par with Mundus such as what we see with Dante in 1 and Vergil is on par with Mundus thanks to the fruit and not being like his father is why his power he has from him is not accessible much.
People misunderstood Nero's fundamental demonic power: he can recall the power he's absorbed. Hell, he can recall the power of the Yamato through Showdown and could absorb Devil Breakers despite the new limb.
P.S.
I know Nico somehow knew that his body would take the new 'prototype' Breaker, but that suggests that Agnus understood the true nature of Nero's power and took notes for her to inherit.
The only thing I would complain about Nero is his Sword competing with other Devil Arms. True it was made by Agnus who is an impressive alchemist or whatever he does in The Order still kinda weird it can compete with other Devil Arms in terms of sheer killing potential against demons although the codex for dmc5 did state that the sword itself is so hard to control due to the engine that Nero is probably the only one who can use it and that's pretty badass for a technically Man-Made weapon
He was able to grab sdt vergil in mid flight and pile drive him into the ground as well.
I have played dmc1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. Never that shit stain they tried to give us as “DMC.” And idk. I think at times Nero reminds me of dmc1 Dante. So angry. So emotional. So… “I SHOULDVE BEEN THE ONE TO FILL YOUR DARK SOUL WITH LIGHT!!!” Very much that. He just still feels like an outsider in the troupe. But I’m glad he’s got his Master Craftsman. Because he uh… let’s face it he needed a hand.
Great video, but there's one thing I always think about when I see the scene where Nero stops both Vergil and Dante. Since we saw that nero can absorb demonic power, couldn't he have absorbed power form those two as well? I always thought it was pretty wierd that both Vergil's and Dante's SDT were deactivated at the same time.
That would make Nero even more powerful
That’s a pretty cool thought, it’s entirely possible.
pretty sure they deactivated the forms cuz nero intervened.
@@thestarryeyedobserver it could be due to their limited time
Also matched Dante with him using devil trigger which is no easy feat
Fun fact Bayonetta has actually confirmed that at least one of its universe's takes place in a alternate devil May cry universe with the lava scorpion spider that when upgraded by Bayonetta becomes literally "The Phantom" since Enzo is technically a character from devil May cry this makes Bayonetta canon devil May cry and shows the angels exist as well in DMC
Not really just kamiya’s version
Not the drug-laced 2000's slurry that is Bayonetta 3, right?
@@pokemonsonicgirl123 yes and stop hating that game please
@@tempestflare4339 Gimme one good reason why I shouldn't.
@@pokemonsonicgirl123 because it's a multiverse were Dante exists hate the game and you hate devil may cry as well
9:14 tecnically 1 hand and 1 wing, since his wings where holding their swords.
Nero's wings held their swords back 😂
Keep in mind nero isn't anywhere near his prime and hasn't fully progressed yet as far as demonic power goes,yet he held his own in fights against Dante as a teenager and in dmc 5 he alone can stop the charging assault of both dante and Vergil in devil trigger
And Nero only just fully developed his devil trigger for the first time
So yeah Nero despite being young has already more or less caught up to his dad and uncle who are both op as shit,and he still has room to grow considering Dante and Vergil were both still getting stronger in 5 despite being kind of old
Ill say nero fuels on his motives just like dante did in the earlier games making him powerful instantly to achieve his goals his speed is not changed he's fast regardless
I think an interesting note for Nero is, unlike Vergil or Dante who have the rebellion and Yamato that unlocks their power, the Yamato releasing it automatically over time I assume and the rebellion requiring Dante to be stabbed to unlock it, Nero essentially has to unlock his power through sheer will. Which shows on top of everything, his potential through his resolve alone.
I believe nero still have and new devil trigger but they didn't still show us
Nero put up a better fight with some funny machine arms WITHOUT DT against Urizen than pre-sdt dante who is already hella legendary.
I think Nero is at the same level of Dante from DMC1. DMC5 really felt like DMC3 for Nero. I definitely think Nero has only started his path to power and has a long way to go before he's anywhere near Dante/Vergil level.
Nero is way above dmc1 Dante.
In dmc4, Nero with Yamato was able to make dmc4 Dante actually pant from exhaustion and even state in the novels that he wasn't pulling his punches.
This already debunks what you've said, as dmc2 Dante, who is weaker than dmc4 Dante was able to effortlessly kill Void Mundus and Argosax. Both of them are way stronger than Mundus from dmc1. And yet, a stronger Dante still struggled with Nero.
Then dmc5 Nero come along and makes your statement even more invalid. In mission 8 (so not even full power DT Nero) was able to destroy Urizen's crystal in under an hour.
Doesn't sound like much, until you realize dmc5 prologue Dante spent an entire day fighting Urizen and didn't destroy the crystal once. And that was a Urizen who was still fresh from being split and wasn't blood boosted. The Urizen Nero fought was after an entire month of being blood boosted.
So dmc5 mission 8 Nero is stronger than dmc5 prologue Dante. Dmc1 Dante gets one shotted by Nero. It doesn't matter that dmc5 is "dmc3 for Nero" because he shows explicit feats for being way stronger than you think he is.
@@xenowarrior282 You couldbe a little nicer but I see. I hear about the novels but I have no idea where to read them. I would disagree about the Mission 8 Nero vs Prologue Dante though. Nero was motivated, which is a big boost in this series as I'm sure you know.
The reason I said DMC1 Dante is because the only time Nero fought Urizen without the shield, he got his ass kicked hard, even with motivation. They said Urizen is stronger than Mundus and Argosax and everyone else, so I assumed Nero would be on their level. It's a little complicated when he has his Devil Trigger though...
@@backupschmliff1156 GitHub divinity statue is where you can read the novels hopefully UA-cam doesn’t delete this comment
8:48 Nero absorbed their powers w his Mullet😂
Just came to say Mundus was Deadweight class from like 3 or 4 games ago
If Sparda were Goku, Nero would be Goten. It makes perfect sense why he's strong, but now he needs a Devil Arm (Demon weapon) to Amp off of. I really don't want it to be Yamato but idk what else could happen
It makes sense it will be something entirely different, maybe an Artificial melee-based Devil Arm.
I have a theory that the reason for Nero’s exponential growth in comparison to his father and uncle is strongly tied to his genetics.
I mean think about it. We know demons gain power from consuming human blood, which is the precipice for Mundus’s and Urizen’s strength, but without it they sort of slow down if not stagnate.
Vergil, Dante, and Nero were probably lucky to be born and born the way they are because they maintained their demon heritage but have human genes to feed their demonic parts, essentially causing a stable constant increase of their power even if they don’t train (or at least make it difficult to lose the strengths they’ve gained if they’ve been slacking off).
Now the difference I’m trying to discuss is the difference in ratio between the Sparda brothers and Nero.
That is, that Nero does get stronger because his genes allow more human blood to fuel a smaller amount of demon gene, making it more effective and efficient in growth than Dante and Vergil.
For essentially, Nero has overall more “Human Resources” to feed his demonic genes by 1.5x over the Sparda brothers, whilst he doesn’t have to worry about potentially stretching his blood as thin as the Sparda brothers because his demonic parts are half the size of theirs.
Just wait for his Sin devil trigger lol
He was my favorite in dmc5, most fun to play
I think the fact alone that "Demons get stronger with Human Blood" here, points to the potential of what if a Human has a tiny bit spark of Demonic bloodline in them? Wouldn't it empower them even more? Surely that there's a optimal level of Demon & Human Mix, that empowers them. I mean what if a Demon Blood that is running through a Demi-Human's that gets empowered with the Half-Human or even more Human blood?
Despite all the shit the fans give him I honestly like Nero. Sucks cap com crippled his game play for try to justify micro transactions.
Yeah I don't think Mundus going to have two nelo angelos if he finds Dante and Vergil, he's definitely dead if he meets the sons of Sparda as they are now.
Dude, Mundus hasn’t even been a player once we saw Dante grape Abigail by tapping into DT and blitz argosax in a split second later without ever using DT. Mundus is a bitch demon compared to our guys now
Bruh, you think Mundus doesn’t have feelings? 🥲
@@DigitaltYT well dang, I never thought about it that way :(
Dmc 4 nero's devil trigger reminds me of stand in Jojo.
he can kill urizen at prologue mission.
with his 1 arm and 1 gun.
yeah. urizen too lazy to stand up from his chair. and got killed easily
Crazy how people will still argue that nero is still weak after you explained why he's strong in detail
Isn’t demonic power essentially fuelled by human blood? With Nero being a 1/4 demon and a descendent of Sparda no less, constantly receiving all that human blood in him. He’s not stronger than Dante or Vergil since he dosent even have his own devil arm. Nero actually has an insane amount of potential.
It's honestly impressive for someone who is using a Human modified Sword to keep up with all of this, imagine if he had true Devil Sword that suits him
@@Omega-jg4oq It’s the same thing dante does to ebony and ivory basically
@@MILDMONSTER1234 well, Nero has one gun and one sword while Dante has 5 guns and 5 Devil arms which it is insane and overwhelming
And tbh even Dante said Nero slap almost killed him regardless of it being a joke. The man took damage and he definitely showed that in dmc5
Okay Dante is still the best MC the DMC series has to offer, but, my personal fave has to be Nero. It's just he's a more grounded character than dante granted he is weaker but that didn't stop him to stand up to Urizen nor Dante and Vergil ( I haven't played any of the games except DMC 3 and 4)
You could just mention that both twins was so fast that they could cuts _the Rain drops_
That’s a really poor speed feat compared to almost every other speed feat in DMC
A dmc anime by mappa would be dope
So if the more human blood you have the stronger you are then Nero's kid would be stronger than him.
I think it's a weird thing, maybe there's just a mistake in the power scaling because of the storytelling.
I like to think that the emotions make them stronger
Human blood is definitely apart of it but emotions are also a big factor
9:18 2 hands each, his wings stopped the swords
For some reason I feel that Nero is a reincarnation of his Grandfather Sparda because his Devil Trigger form silhouette looks similar to the statue of Sparda in DMC4 but I can be wrong
if there will be a devil may cry 6 in future and imagine nero having a sin devil trigger or gathering weapons from bosses like dante.
Something else that probably makes Nero stronger is that he has people to protect, *personally*. Kyrie and the three kids they’re raising together are who Nero is truly fighting for at the end of the day, while Dante and Vergil don’t really fight for anyone specific, and more-so just to make a living or just because they can. Like a true anime protagonist…
his love is his power.