My great grandfather-in-law saw this movie before he died. He He took over his father's Hunting Provisions store (later called "Sporting Goods") in 1935. I asked him if this was how firearm transactions went down then. He said nobody bought that much but, other than that , " 'bout right".
My grandpa went to school in Alaska back in the 20s or 30s and it was similar for him. He actually brought a rifle or shotgun with him to school even, sometimes so he could hunt on his way back home and also because this area was fairly rural he even ran into wolves a few times. He bought his guns at a local general store, just stopped by, talked to the proprietor about a good gun and bought it on the spot. Can you imagine a guy today in his 20s just buying a gun at a gas station with cash and bringing it with him to college?
@Tobias Rieper Well this movie was out 2019, and he took over the family store in 1935, 84 years before that. So if he was 6 when he took over the store he saw the movie when he was 90, if he was 16 when he took over the store he saw the movie when he was 100. We'll assume he was the legal age of 21 when he took over the store which I guess made him 105 when he saw The Highwaymen....
Yeah look at the media now if ANY teen gets shot by police for stabbing they say they were lovely and made tic toc videos. Ironic Woody is a cop in this though since I thought Mickey and Mallory were a bit Bonnie and Clyde ish both child abuse victims though which made them more sympathetic characters.
Unfortunately they didn't do it well enough. The Colt monitor never had a "custom pistol grip". It always came with one so it wouldn't have a patent infringement. The BAR only came in 30-06, so asking for a BAR in 30-06 is like asking for a jar of peanut butter with peanut butter in it. They did ok, better than usual but could have been better.
@@CWHolleman "First thing I thought when he asked for BAR in 30-06...(Aren't they are 30-06?)" Only in the US. Fabrique Nationale made them in other calibers. .303 British, 8mm Mauser, 6.5 Swedish. They made a version that had a quick change barrel. Browning went to FN after getting the song 'n dance from US manufacturers. How does that old saying go, "A prophet is without honor in their own nation".
There were export versions of the BAR in calibers like 7.92 Mauser and .303 British. Though I don't know why he'd expect a small town gun store to carry them. 😁
@Garrison Nichols Automatic Weapons weren't really super jam prone in this era, unless they were poorly maintained. Much of the bad reputation some guns got was largely due to wartime storage and environmental conditions.
Many Rangers of that era started out on horseback carrying a Colt Single Action and later drove a car while carrying a Colt 1911. Hamer and John Hughes are great examples.
He used both Winchester 94 , M95 and Savage 99 in his service as Texas Ranger. They and Border Patrol also used .Winchestetr semi auto .351 with 10 shot magazine . Average salary for a BP guy was 50 dollar a month,they were issued tools,but they bought their own. As the issued were either too clumsy and long ,p17s or too long time to reload, SW 1917 .45 Acp without moonclips. The Police Special 15 shot rifle was developed after the Bonny Clyde incident, he had the 5 shot Rem rifle then.
Not sure, but there's a good chance that Model 1894 Winchester is actually Kevin Costner's own gun, belonged to his grandfather. He does use that gun in Yellowstone and there's been something written up on it where the gun at least in that show, does belong to Costner, and was his grandfather's. Good chance it's the very same gun.
@@MrPh30 Hamer had a Remington 8 .35 caliber 20 round extended magazine special ordered. Dep Oakley had the same who got the kill shot on Clyde in head.
What's cool about this scene is it doesn't just show the gravity of a task he's embarking on and show his knowlege in firearms (checking actions, and wanting to keep glare down), but it demonstrates his investigative knowledge and adaptation as he is buying wepons Bonnie and Clyde used rather then just sticking to status quo wepons he had previously used. It was well documented that in many instances police issued Tommy's and more specifically 45. Acp and 9mm cartrages had trouble penitrating many opsicles such as doors on cars.
What else makes it excetional is Costner doesn't hog it to remind the audience it's him playing Frank Hamer. In fact, this may be his best film as far as portraying a character without his ego mucking it up.
I suppose these calibers were less powerful back in the day, and car doors were probably much sturdier in the older cars. Nowadays a 9mm or a 45 will go straight through a modern car door easily.
@@daveman9712 you can find videos comparing the performance of a .30-06 versus today's NATO 7.62mm, but the car doors were often thinner in depth due to the bodywork design--some cars like Chevies used wood bracing inside the body's sheetmetal. These were weapons that had served the trenches of WW1 so they did have punch.
@@daveman9712 Little from column A, little from column B. Most departments back then were using revolvers in .32 Smith & Wesson Long or .38 Specials. Remember, .38 Special was still considered a powerful cartridge at the time, and not .38 Special +P, just .38 Special to black powder loadings. They had less power and the solid lead projectiles revolvers of the time often used tended to deform a lot on impact with something solid, so they'd either shatter into small pieces or smash flat and get caught by the doors. As for the car, depends on the model. Most cars today have thin sheet metal, with some noise canceling and thermal insulating foam inside, and a plastic insert on the other side. A Packard of this era on the other hand, had a solid wood framing bodywork, that was then covered in thicker sheet metal than they use today, which was also put on both sides. While something like a Ford Model T, which a few were still floating around in Heymer's time, were typically made with thinner wood and steel, and usually only metal on the outside. Plus its not really that hard for a gearhead of any era to crack open a door panel, which you can then stuff with more material to help put more between you and getting a slug in you, and if you plan on doing a lot of bank robberies, my guess is you're going to think of that and stuff something in there. Last thing I'll say, there are actually reports from this era of .45 ACP and .38 Super going through cars. When Auto Ordnance demonstrated the Thompson Submachine Guns, they bought a Ford Model A I think it was, and shot it up, and the rounds went through both sides with no problem.
I find it hilarious that a Bonnie and Clyde stole their arsenal from a National Guard Arsenal. While Frank Hamer walks into a Gun Store then buys all of his weapons and ammunition.
And most tragic of all was that fucking congress passed the incredibly unconstitutional NFA act because of Bonnie and Clyde despite the fact that Bonnie and Clyde stole their automatic weapons from those armories. No logic to gun control whatsoever.
It should be just that easy today. Why the store owner is so dour is a mystery to me. He just made one a year’s profit in that one purchase. For instance, Thompson’s cost as much as a new car, and a third of their cost of profit
@@redram5150 right? And people in this country hate capitalism 😂I actually cringed when I saw them walk out carrying all of those old firearms like that until I figured well they were just the tools of the time to get the job done 😊I still baby my great grandfather's ol whinchester 94 but his old 1912 has had a hard life... I don't know whether or not to keep it how it is or get it reblued...
@@kbanghart Last I checked the second amendment hadn't been repealed. And "shall not be infringed" is pretty clear to me. I suppose you think the Civil Asset Forfeiture Act which allows the government to seize property without due process is constitutional? Quit being such an effing sheep.
He answered, just not the way the owner wanted lol. He probably assumed he was a government official, the way he is dressed, and he was right. He obviously knew after the shooting was publicized. Wonder if the shop owner ever got any notoriety out of it.. or just kept his mouth shut. Probably safer bet.
@@kbanghart I like the way that you can tell the owner is concerned about the possibility he's selling guns to some kind of whack job or criminal. You will never meet more ethical salesmen than gun store owners. If you give them a bad vibe they will ask you to leave regardless of whether it means going hungry that week.
@@bodesbodes9408 Well, u are selling as a gun store owner as well. Unless the laws, restrictions and punishments are severely more grave if u break them as a gun store owner than as a liquor store owner, or any other store owner, I find it difficult to believe they shud on average be different than the rest of the population
Ah, the good ole days. I kept saying I was going to buy some bulk pistol ammo when I set aside the extra money. That didn’t happen and now I sorely regret it.
Remember when in the U.K. you could just walk into a gun store and come out with a gun ? Me neither because here we have strictly regulated firearms laws where you have to apply to the Police for permission to buy a firearm stating the type of weapon you wish to buy , make , calibre etc , why you want to buy the weapon (must be a legitimate reason and not just because you fancy owning a gun ) plus type and quantity of ammunition. Your application will then be processed which can take some time to see if you’re a suitable person to hold a firearm and if your reason for wanting one is valid and then and only then you MIGHT be granted a firearms licence, also the local Police firearms officer can call at your house at anytime to check that you are storing your weapon in a proper secure gun cabinet and if it’s not he can confiscate the weapon on the spot .
@@zombieplus1423 why are you offering me condolences ? I much prefer living in a country with gun control laws as strict as hours rather than in a country where any half wit can walk into a shop throw some money on the counter and walk out with a gun .
He got to keep all of Bonnie & Clyde's weapons because they weren't being paid very much. He was only paid half his fee. The weapons were supplied by police departments. Hamer used a Remington 8 rifle that shot .35 caliber with an extended magazine that held 20 rounds.After it was over they all got screwed out of the reward money that they were promised and only received $200 each. Little under $4,000 today.
America has never been free for everyone. Only a certain portion of the population, if you were them then this kind of stuff seems like paradise to you.
Not many people get the chance to walk into a gun shop, start pulling guns from shelves to cover the counter and telling the clerk to ring it all up. I feel blessed to have been in that position at least one time in my life. I feel even more blessed to have been behind the counter for a different but similar occasion.
Simpler day. Simpler time. A time when legal gun owners weren't castigated and murderous criminals were treated as murderous criminals should be treated. Some would say we've evolved.....Yeah, right.
Not bragging, but you've never had me walk into your gun store. I can "relate" to this scene. I always have a wish list in my head and I buy when I find the right prices (so yeah, price matters to me).
If I won the lottery I would totally walk into a gun shop and be like “I’ll take that, I’ll take that, I’m definitely taking that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and all the ammo you got for them!
This is spot on of a law man doing his research and getting a well rounded loadout of firearms. From short to long range with the correct caliber choices available at the time. Whoever came up with adding this scene into the movie did a great job 👏
I like how the gun shop owner and his son leave the shop unattended with the front door wide open and the inventory sitting on the shelves as they take the guns and ammo to the car. People were much more trusting back then.
This is a great homage to films of the 1940's & 1950's but with a modern bent. When the clerk asks Frank what he needs the weaponry for and he just gives him that "look". I love movies that try to limit dialogue and go for communication through gestures or facial expressions. This movie had a gritty undertone without getting gory or sexual. A truly adult film for adult audiences. They aren't many made anymore of that kind of audience...
There are very few “real” actors today, Costner is one of them. I remember when actors actually conveyed their feelings by acting, they didn’t need a lot of unnecessary dialogue to show what they meant and thought. It was actual acting, they could convey f*#k you without having to say it and be just vulgar.
Old movies did this, conveying thoughts and ideas without speaking. The message was powerful. New movies just miss the point in order to pander to a modern perspective.@@malcolmr3 e
This is why Kostner is one of my favorite actors. What he does with his voice in this movie is just amazing. He really owns the character of Frank Hamer and you believe that he’s the badass lawman that Hamer actually was. And he was able to portray Hamer in a realistic way in comparison to the 70’s version with “ Bonnie and Clyde” and do some real justice to the man’s legend.
It's a ok movie at best , it's a bit more accurate than the Original Bonnie and Clyde film but that film is a timeless masterpiece regardless of they romanticized them as good ppl
@@maralinekozial9131 I'm a fan of Warren Beatty as well and that first film is iconic, I'm not denying that by any means. I just think they did Hamer better justice in this film. I know it's all perspective and this one highlights the lawmen instead of the outlaws. I just like this one as well
@@kencox5192 no they definitely did Frank's character better & Costner was perfect for the role just like he was for Elliot Ness in The Untouchables decades earlier ❤️
@@GreatBigRanz /sigh,, no.. The govt. with taxes and limitations and forcing remodeling of guns because they woook sooo scawyy.. THEY make it expensive. Guns are usually cheap and so was ammo until right after a democrat gets elected.. We're past being infringed on at this point. So the year of this movie up until clinton's first term guns ammo were cheap and then under clinton they went high and then it went down a bit then back up to stupid with obama and Trump was fought non stop by the democrats so it just kept on going u p n up n up. and now with biden,, kaboom.. That's why only the rich can afford it now. yep this was a tirade and yep you had it coming
This was my first ever time acting in a real movie!!! It was like 3 years ago but I still remember getting to meet Kevin and Woody. It was such a great day.
Actually, I think it is a pleasant change in pace when a paying customer already knows what they want and asks for it. Questions are kept at a minimum and out the door they go.
@@kbanghart Guns and ammo can be a wise investment for many reasons. If well kept, they not only keep their value, but mature. The stock market and real estate markets could crash on a whim, but these will never loose value; In that unlikely situation, their value would skyrocket astronomically. However, that is the moment when you might need them the most to protect the most important commodity: Your life. Have you ever heard the fact that "our society is only 9 missed meals away from complete anarchy" From Gremlins: "I'm telling all my investors to put their money into canned food and shotguns."
You could order the 1921 chicago typewriter for next to nothing to your door no tax stamp. If they made suppressors for them back then it would have come with one of those too. Then FDR, Carter, Reagan, Bush and Son, Clinton, Obama and Trump and soon maybe even Biden or Kamala will be ripping your 2A abilities to shreds.
Ah the good old days. When you could just walk in and buy a Thompson and a B.A.R. When the only waiting period was as long as it took to write a bill of sale.
i can go down to the local crackhouse and buy an AK in less than an hour, be back at my house(unless the stab and rob me) grilling up a steak and shooting twin banana clips off.
@@wurzel9671 Well yeah, the National Guard has long been lead by inept fools. The entire organization is full of brain dead inbreds. Still is to this day.
I do enjoy his comment about “a gun that won’t jam” because my 94 Winchester is a favorite of my collection. But, he had already asked for an 03 Springfield and a Smith 1917. Just can’t help but smile at it. Great scene and great movie.
@@MrKogline Hahaha!!! Oh that has to be the funniest shit I’ve read in a long time. Change that name to “Biden” or “the Democrats” and you will be on the mark.
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Bank robbers, Booze runners, and Tobacco bootleggers hurting the legit companies brought about alcohol and tobacco regs and laws even before prohibition and taxation by the Feds, and the primary goal of ATF in combating tobacco trafficking is to enforce the federal laws relating to tobacco trafficking of domestically produced and counterfeit cigarettes and tobacco products...Unless you like smoking cow shit, and bugs! By the way, American companies were headed for bankruptcy before the ATF because all the cheap, bootleg cigarettes being smuggled into the country from Canada and Cuba, Nicaragua, Mexico ETC, and homemade booze that had always been around, that was blinding and killing people!
My grandfather owned a General Mercantile and farm implement business from 1907 through 1931. He stocked primarily Winchester rifles and the like. Thompson submachine guns were a special order and only sold a few. I Don't recall him mentioning the sale of Browning Automatic Rifles.
Mt grandfather once told me a story ... he had gone off to have a bit of adventure as a young man, and gave it all up when he was about 20 in 1928. He never talked about what he'd done, but ... so he was making his way home, and had made it to "someplace near St Louis" when he ran out of money. So he went to a pawn shop and pawned his gun. It got enough money to get him back to central New York. As the years went by, he had frequently regretted that decision, feeling there must have been a way to get that money and not part with his gun. Driving long-haul trucks about 40 years later, he arrived at a delivery early and had to wait for them to accept the load, so he went for a walk to see the town. He had no real idea where he was, but the place looked familiar. And there on the main street, in the window of a pawn shop, was his gun. He went in and said to the clerk, "I don't have my pawn ticket with me, but ..." and proceeded to tell him the story. In the end, he got the gun back for what he's pawned it for. And owned it for thirty more years. (I don't think he convinced them of the truth of it being his gun so much as he traded them a really good story for the gun.)
I bought the DVD of "The Highwaymen," and I cannot praise it enough. Woody Harrelson, as usual, provides a stellar performance, portraying real-life Texas Ranger Maney Gault, with his conscience that he wears on his sleeve, yet is sharp as a brass tack when he faces THE moment of truth. And now that the pretty boy veneer has finally melted away, Kevin Costner shines like a newly minted coin as a pretty damn good actor, assuming a roughened, throaty way of speaking in portraying the real-life Ranger Frank Hamer, and carrying a hardened, determined and angry focus for hunting down and stopping the cold-blood killers Bonnie & Clyde. This particular scene of him "loading for bear" for the gun fight is particularly effective. He goes in and comes out with exactly what he knows he'll need for the ultimate encounter, which all master lawmen are capable. FOUR STARS for the film, FOUR STARS each for Harrelson and Costner. P.S. He orders weapons and ammo the way I order lox & cream cheese and a bag of bagels at my local deli.
And I'm glad it didn't show him as particularly happy buying everything, I mean he wasn't a psychopath, so going to kill someone shouldn't be all that enjoyable, especially for a family guy.
The movie is a quiet gem. Love it. I went away and researched KC’s character. FASCINATING human. Great at maths. Completely dedicated to a manhunt. Principled. Came from a time of hunting Klan and Banditos on horseback in the wildlands. Legendary TR.
A couple of years ago my wife and I went into a Rural King store. Girl at the front door says, "Hi. Would you like to buy an AR15?" "Sure." Did the ATF paperwork and walked out with a S&W AR15. No ammo though. They were out of .223 and .556 This was during the big firearm shortage in the U.S. and Rural King had received a huge shipment of S&W's.
Yall are gonna say im bullshitting when i say this but the son in the gunstore is actually one of my close friends and i was really surprised when i saw him in this movie. Good shit Carter
Awesome ASMR scene and I love the mannerisms of Costner in general and his raspy voice that is so relaxing to me. He walks in the door all quiet and checking out the location of each gun on the shelf before opening his mouth to "keep both of them" in the shop busy while he picked out others from the book that he had circled ahead of time. He didn't want to be pressured by a salesman mindset, so he took it to them first as the buyer and kept them busy. In retail, I loved it when the rare customer would come in and do this similar thing with me for various electronics products that were high value and I'd get to put this massive receipt on the employee board that other employees were in awe at. It wasn't that special, of course...but sure felt good at the time and made me feel like I was doing a really good since since management sucked.
was just thinking the same thing. the calm, low conversation, the soft clicking/clacking of things. interesting to listen to and also soothing in a way
Movie mistake: When he is viewing the paper with the list of guns, at the top you see a German Gewehr 43 which was not developed until 1943, about 9 years after the setting of this film.
This is one of Costner's best movies that came out over the last 20years. Love how gritty he portraits Frank Hamer. Pretty sure that's what Hamer was like in real life.
In the 50's, Thompson's sales had dropped off after WWII, so they went after ranchers as a possible new market. My dad bought one from a magazine ad and it came in the mail. Great days!
No. They marketed to ranchers from the start, as Thompson missed delivering in time for WWI. The National Firearms Act of 1934 required tax stamps and ATF registration. While other guns could be sold mail order after 1934, that was no longer true of machine guns.
That would have been in the 20's and early 30's, before NFA in 1934. That restricted full auto sales and set minimum barrel lengths of 16" and 18" for rifles and shotguns respectively.
...then as he was heading home, he realized how much firepower he sold to one guy, and decided to leave the state for a few days. While on the road, he called his wife and gave her a polite warning that if she was on the road and saw this Ford sedan behind her with a license plate beginning 690, she should let it pass.
Such a typical scene... A guy buys out the local gun shop and then his friend shows up to help him shoot up the ammo, LOL! All jokes aside, this was a great movie! These guys were perfect!
@@dotsinki1096 depends on the parents, frankly our school system is a joke these days. We become a product of our own environment. Ignorance does not mean stupid however and we can learn however people by nature do not change so if they are raised as trash then most likely they will remain trash
@@dotsinki1096 freemen have the freedom to make their choice. You want to give it up for safety ? Go to prison then, free health care, free education, full time security, three meals and a roof over your head.
The Guns are top notch. Very well researched. Imagine walking into a gun store now and getting a Colt Monitor off the rack 😂 that thing will stop anything dead in its tracks and then some.
A 30-30 rifle in the right hands is a fierce weapon. My grandfather had one and that man could shoot bees with it plus it had enough stopping power to bring down most anything.
@Starscream91 It wouldn't be dumb because the Redemption series of games have effectively become the Marston Family saga. Stop trying to discourage the idea, because like the guy ^^^ above, I fucking want this too. We can have a RDR3 in the American West without it being the Wild West.
@Starscream91 Game ends with JOHN MARSTON on top of Beacher's Hope because "you know what" happens to Arthur Morgan. I don't hate the "West", if I did, then I wouldn't want a sequel. OUR "stupid" idea most likely won't happen; because of people like YOU.
@Trainwreck727 Exactly. And since this is Rockstar Games we're talking about, I know they can do it well. Automobiles and riding horses can still be a thing. And it can technically still be in the "West".
@Trainwreck727 Yeah. Maybe Bugsy Siegel and Al Capone as well. We can have antagonists like mafia families, bootleggers, bank robbers, the Pinkertons coming back and the FBI in one game.
There is a posting on YT from the armorer for this movie. It is very very good. He talks about just every gun you see in the movie with many historical tidbits. He also explains how dedicated Kevin Costner was to realism and historical accuracy. Also addresses the difficulty in procurring and replicating some of the weapons used in this great movie.
This comment is some serious dumb shit considering the gun laws were much stricter than that. Hell, Tombstone banned guns entirely, and that was in the 19th century
I love that Hamer recognizes a 30-30 when he sees one. He sure as hell would know at a glance in real life, his skill with rifles and pistols was legendary. He'd shoot pebbles tossed in the air, with a 30-06 rifle.
@Captain Hindsight You are trying to look wise by making baseless asumptions. You were ignorant of the fact before I told you, and you remain ignorant of the circumstances. That is not wisdom. It's not even hindsight. It's simple arrogance.
@Captain Hindsight I assumed nothing. I read your words and I knew precisely what they meant. No assumptions involved. Now you are backpedaling with an explanation. There you go with "probably". You're ignorant of the circumstances, and you are ignorant of where and how it was done. yet you still pronounce judgnment. Bui please continue digging your hole. Maybe you can accuse me of another thing I didn't do while you're at it.
@Captain Hindsight I understand why your name isn't "Captain Vocabulary". You claimed I did or said something wrong, incorrect, or improper. That's an accusation, just for your future reference. Maybe write that down.
@@florinivan6907 Under liberals punishment for crimes and keeping the lunatics locked up is next to nonexistent. Leftists are useless in most situations and are amoral degenerates that put forth the worst kinds of social policy.
I remember walking into a K-Mart in Tampa back in 1991. Brand-new Beretta 92FS sitting in a glass case with boxes of 9mm Luger. Swift elbow was all it would have taken. Was a different world thirty years ago, let alone 85 years ago.
i grew up in the 90s and i keep seeing people saying this. yet when i traveled the country with my military dad. not once have i saw a 7/11 or some random gas station sell a fire arm. i been to 30 out of the 50 states. back then.
This is how buying weapons in America should be. Bought multiple automatic weapons and enough ammo to supply a small Infantry unit, and the only background check was "what you need all this for?"
this is how I felt when I went to the gunstore. Walked in. Told em what I wanted. Walked out 30 minutes later with my goods and threw them bad boys in the car xD
Everytime I look in my safe and see my great grandfather's ol whinchester 1894 and his model 1912 I chuckle and think of this scene I picture him and his father buying them in a hardware store😊 some Europeans and anti gun people don't understand why we Americans value our firearms so much....a lot of them our passed down from generation to generation...the most accurate .22 I own was my great grandpas as well and my great GRANDMOTHER used to hunt squirrels with it during the great depression while he was away working for his family. Growing up hunting with my father with them and how I felt when he gave some of them to me... That right there is why a lot of us value our guns so much, something the other people wouldn't understand unfortunately 🙁
A lot of Europeans still own weapons older than your country. The fundamental difference is a Euro thinks 100 miles is a long way, and a Yank thinks 100 years is a long time.
My great grandfather-in-law saw this movie before he died. He He took over his father's Hunting Provisions store (later called "Sporting Goods") in 1935. I asked him if this was how firearm transactions went down then. He said nobody bought that much but, other than that , " 'bout right".
@Tobias Rieper I don't mind at all.
@@witchfindergeneral5366 hehe
My grandpa went to school in Alaska back in the 20s or 30s and it was similar for him. He actually brought a rifle or shotgun with him to school even, sometimes so he could hunt on his way back home and also because this area was fairly rural he even ran into wolves a few times. He bought his guns at a local general store, just stopped by, talked to the proprietor about a good gun and bought it on the spot. Can you imagine a guy today in his 20s just buying a gun at a gas station with cash and bringing it with him to college?
@Tobias Rieper Well this movie was out 2019, and he took over the family store in 1935, 84 years before that. So if he was 6 when he took over the store he saw the movie when he was 90, if he was 16 when he took over the store he saw the movie when he was 100. We'll assume he was the legal age of 21 when he took over the store which I guess made him 105 when he saw The Highwaymen....
@@arthas640 hell that was the 80s in rural America
I like how this movie makes cold blooded serial killers out of Bonnie and Clyde instead of some sort of folk heroes.
Which is how they should be. They are way too romanticized.
@@astealthyfish An economic depression and a prohibition on alcohol will do that to an embittered public perspective.
@@nate742 So much so that they killed innocent people. Being broke and sober is not license to murder at whim.
@@evilblackcat6357 don’t tell that to the Mob.
Yeah look at the media now if ANY teen gets shot by police for stabbing they say they were lovely and made tic toc videos. Ironic Woody is a cop in this though since I thought Mickey and Mallory were a bit Bonnie and Clyde ish both child abuse victims though which made them more sympathetic characters.
When he asked for moon clips for the 17 Smith and Wesson I knew someone did their homework when they wrote this scene. Awesome movie.
Unfortunately they didn't do it well enough. The Colt monitor never had a "custom pistol grip". It always came with one so it wouldn't have a patent infringement. The BAR only came in 30-06, so asking for a BAR in 30-06 is like asking for a jar of peanut butter with peanut butter in it. They did ok, better than usual but could have been better.
I like how he still gets a Winchester and a revolver along with the semi and full autos
@@Sickofsociety1 Beat me to it!
First thing I thought when he asked for BAR in 30-06...(Aren't they are 30-06?)
@@CWHolleman "First thing I thought when he asked for BAR in 30-06...(Aren't they are 30-06?)"
Only in the US.
Fabrique Nationale made them in other calibers. .303 British, 8mm Mauser, 6.5 Swedish. They made a version that had a quick change barrel. Browning went to FN after getting the song 'n dance from US manufacturers.
How does that old saying go, "A prophet is without honor in their own nation".
There were export versions of the BAR in calibers like 7.92 Mauser and .303 British. Though I don't know why he'd expect a small town gun store to carry them. 😁
Hamer: All right then, that'll do it.
Man: Which'll do it?
Hamer: All of them.
Man: *Hears the choir of angels*
You know he probably took the whole family out to Olive Garden that night . . .
@@sidviscous5959 Hell, with those profits he could build the Olive Garden.
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@@sidviscous5959 it was cactus garden back then
Or a choir of American eagles 😂
I like how easily that kid can carry 4 cases of .45 lead and 4 cases of .30-06
Adam P. It’s cuz I’m strong
I think that box contains all the clips actually...but you made me do a double take Sir!
Country strong. 💪
Kids were stronger because cellphones were much heavier.
he said cases, but the kid took boxes off the shelf.
Hollywood, they probably think cases and boxes are the same thing.
"That be all?"
"Nope, sunscreen."
"What SPF?"
"Highest you got."
Anybody not wearing two million sunblock is gonna have a real bad day, get it?
@@winternow2242 I don't. :(
@@mirotzu99 when was the last time you watched a motion picture called T2?
@@mirotzu99 Judgement Day. :D
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I loved how he treated the Winchester lever gun. Since Frank Hamer was a Texas Ranger, they probably used to use the lever actions.
@Garrison Nichols Automatic Weapons weren't really super jam prone in this era, unless they were poorly maintained. Much of the bad reputation some guns got was largely due to wartime storage and environmental conditions.
Many Rangers of that era started out on horseback carrying a Colt Single Action and later drove a car while carrying a Colt 1911. Hamer and John Hughes are great examples.
He used both Winchester 94 , M95 and Savage 99 in his service as Texas Ranger. They and Border Patrol also used .Winchestetr semi auto .351 with 10 shot magazine .
Average salary for a BP guy was 50 dollar a month,they were issued tools,but they bought their own. As the issued were either too clumsy and long ,p17s or too long time to reload, SW 1917 .45 Acp without moonclips.
The Police Special 15 shot rifle was developed after the Bonny Clyde incident, he had the 5 shot Rem rifle then.
Not sure, but there's a good chance that Model 1894 Winchester is actually Kevin Costner's own gun, belonged to his grandfather. He does use that gun in Yellowstone and there's been something written up on it where the gun at least in that show, does belong to Costner, and was his grandfather's. Good chance it's the very same gun.
@@MrPh30 Hamer had a Remington 8 .35 caliber 20 round extended magazine special ordered. Dep Oakley had the same who got the kill shot on Clyde in head.
Hey he forgot the phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range
Just what you see pal...
John Redcorn da nein millameeta uzy
@Stephen Douglas all
@Stephen Douglas wrong *BOOM*
What about da oozy nine milimeder and the colt longzlide wid laza sighting?
What's cool about this scene is it doesn't just show the gravity of a task he's embarking on and show his knowlege in firearms (checking actions, and wanting to keep glare down), but it demonstrates his investigative knowledge and adaptation as he is buying wepons Bonnie and Clyde used rather then just sticking to status quo wepons he had previously used. It was well documented that in many instances police issued Tommy's and more specifically 45. Acp and 9mm cartrages had trouble penitrating many opsicles such as doors on cars.
What else makes it excetional is Costner doesn't hog it to remind the audience it's him playing Frank Hamer. In fact, this may be his best film as far as portraying a character without his ego mucking it up.
I suppose these calibers were less powerful back in the day, and car doors were probably much sturdier in the older cars. Nowadays a 9mm or a 45 will go straight through a modern car door easily.
@@daveman9712 you can find videos comparing the performance of a .30-06 versus today's NATO 7.62mm, but the car doors were often thinner in depth due to the bodywork design--some cars like Chevies used wood bracing inside the body's sheetmetal. These were weapons that had served the trenches of WW1 so they did have punch.
@@daveman9712 Little from column A, little from column B. Most departments back then were using revolvers in .32 Smith & Wesson Long or .38 Specials. Remember, .38 Special was still considered a powerful cartridge at the time, and not .38 Special +P, just .38 Special to black powder loadings. They had less power and the solid lead projectiles revolvers of the time often used tended to deform a lot on impact with something solid, so they'd either shatter into small pieces or smash flat and get caught by the doors.
As for the car, depends on the model. Most cars today have thin sheet metal, with some noise canceling and thermal insulating foam inside, and a plastic insert on the other side. A Packard of this era on the other hand, had a solid wood framing bodywork, that was then covered in thicker sheet metal than they use today, which was also put on both sides. While something like a Ford Model T, which a few were still floating around in Heymer's time, were typically made with thinner wood and steel, and usually only metal on the outside. Plus its not really that hard for a gearhead of any era to crack open a door panel, which you can then stuff with more material to help put more between you and getting a slug in you, and if you plan on doing a lot of bank robberies, my guess is you're going to think of that and stuff something in there.
Last thing I'll say, there are actually reports from this era of .45 ACP and .38 Super going through cars. When Auto Ordnance demonstrated the Thompson Submachine Guns, they bought a Ford Model A I think it was, and shot it up, and the rounds went through both sides with no problem.
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I find it hilarious that a Bonnie and Clyde stole their arsenal from a National Guard Arsenal. While Frank Hamer walks into a Gun Store then buys all of his weapons and ammunition.
And most tragic of all was that fucking congress passed the incredibly unconstitutional NFA act because of Bonnie and Clyde despite the fact that Bonnie and Clyde stole their automatic weapons from those armories. No logic to gun control whatsoever.
It should be just that easy today. Why the store owner is so dour is a mystery to me. He just made one a year’s profit in that one purchase. For instance, Thompson’s cost as much as a new car, and a third of their cost of profit
@@redram5150 right? And people in this country hate capitalism 😂I actually cringed when I saw them walk out carrying all of those old firearms like that until I figured well they were just the tools of the time to get the job done 😊I still baby my great grandfather's ol whinchester 94 but his old 1912 has had a hard life... I don't know whether or not to keep it how it is or get it reblued...
@@tacticalcrusader3709 lol of course it can be constitutional, no amendment is inviolable.
@@kbanghart Last I checked the second amendment hadn't been repealed. And "shall not be infringed" is pretty clear to me. I suppose you think the Civil Asset Forfeiture Act which allows the government to seize property without due process is constitutional? Quit being such an effing sheep.
"...if you don't mind me asking."
*"No, sir. I don't mind at all."*
Doesn't answer, tho. XD
He answered, just not the way the owner wanted lol. He probably assumed he was a government official, the way he is dressed, and he was right. He obviously knew after the shooting was publicized. Wonder if the shop owner ever got any notoriety out of it.. or just kept his mouth shut. Probably safer bet.
@@kbanghart I like the way that you can tell the owner is concerned about the possibility he's selling guns to some kind of whack job or criminal.
You will never meet more ethical salesmen than gun store owners. If you give them a bad vibe they will ask you to leave regardless of whether it means going hungry that week.
@@bodesbodes9408 Well, u are selling as a gun store owner as well. Unless the laws, restrictions and punishments are severely more grave if u break them as a gun store owner than as a liquor store owner, or any other store owner, I find it difficult to believe they shud on average be different than the rest of the population
Because he can "ask" anything he wants... Getting an answer is another story
"If you don't mind me asking."
"To put it plainly...........evil."
Thats what I would've said.
That or Vengeance.
Remember when you could actually walk into a gun store and there were boxes of ammo on the shelves? Me either.
Ah, the good ole days. I kept saying I was going to buy some bulk pistol ammo when I set aside the extra money. That didn’t happen and now I sorely regret it.
I remember walking in to a California gun store and seeing Mac 10's available to be taken home that day.... We use to honor the 2nd amendment....
Remember when in the U.K. you could just walk into a gun store and come out with a gun ? Me neither because here we have strictly regulated firearms laws where you have to apply to the Police for permission to buy a firearm stating the type of weapon you wish to buy , make , calibre etc , why you want to buy the weapon (must be a legitimate reason and not just because you fancy owning a gun ) plus type and quantity of ammunition. Your application will then be processed which can take some time to see if you’re a suitable person to hold a firearm and if your reason for wanting one is valid and then and only then you MIGHT be granted a firearms licence, also the local Police firearms officer can call at your house at anytime to check that you are storing your weapon in a proper secure gun cabinet and if it’s not he can confiscate the weapon on the spot .
@@alastairmurray5225 My condolences.
@@zombieplus1423 why are you offering me condolences ? I much prefer living in a country with gun control laws as strict as hours rather than in a country where any half wit can walk into a shop throw some money on the counter and walk out with a gun .
Fun fact: The real Frank Hamer got to keep all those guns.
I laughed my ass off when I read this. Thank you!
This does no surprise me. I mean, if the Government was paying for it, why the heck not?
He got to keep all of Bonnie & Clyde's weapons because they weren't being paid very much. He was only paid half his fee. The weapons were supplied by police departments. Hamer used a Remington 8 rifle that shot .35 caliber with an extended magazine that held 20 rounds.After it was over they all got screwed out of the reward money that they were promised and only received $200 each. Little under $4,000 today.
@@koDaffi No Way, they got screwed out of the reward money? This I didn't know. Man that is nuts
Another fun fact: Bonnie and Clyde got to keep all the ammo. *Ba Dum Tsss*
God... Pre-NFA. I can't even imagine the joy of showing up to store and buying your very first machine gun. Sounds like so much fun.
Remember when America was a free country?
Pepperidge farms remembers
@@warrenb8228 FDR started the downward spiral….
Free for whom?
@@ewanmacvicar for everyone, equal under the law.
America has never been free for everyone. Only a certain portion of the population, if you were them then this kind of stuff seems like paradise to you.
Not many people get the chance to walk into a gun shop, start pulling guns from shelves to cover the counter and telling the clerk to ring it all up. I feel blessed to have been in that position at least one time in my life. I feel even more blessed to have been behind the counter for a different but similar occasion.
Simpler day. Simpler time. A time when legal gun owners weren't castigated and murderous criminals were treated as murderous criminals should be treated. Some would say we've evolved.....Yeah, right.
As a gun store employee, I wish this would happen honestly
Not bragging, but you've never had me walk into your gun store. I can "relate" to this scene. I always have a wish list in my head and I buy when I find the right prices (so yeah, price matters to me).
@@pagamenews Ok?
If I won the lottery I would totally walk into a gun shop and be like “I’ll take that, I’ll take that, I’m definitely taking that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and all the ammo you got for them!
@@117rebel Why not just get an FFL? LOL
How much do you think the bill was ?
Deleted scene: Gun store owner on phone to supplier "Hey Fred, I need a restock." Fred "On what? Ammo? Guns?" Gun store owner "yes."
"How much restock?"
"Yes."
This is spot on of a law man doing his research and getting a well rounded loadout of firearms.
From short to long range with the correct caliber choices available at the time. Whoever came up with adding this scene into the movie did a great job 👏
I like how he got the winchester just so he could have one gun that didn't jam
@@1TruNub revolver and the 97 pump though
@@giovannicervantes2053 pump can def jam, but yeah he did already have the revolver but needed that range
@@milesclaussen3689 fair enough
@@1TruNub lever actions jam all the time I think when he said that he was talking about the revolver he was handed
I like how the gun shop owner and his son leave the shop unattended with the front door wide open and the inventory sitting on the shelves as they take the guns and ammo to the car. People were much more trusting back then.
No, they're still that trusting in small towns. He wouldn't do that in a city even then.
@@CodaMission don't know where you live, but there's a lot of small towns these days where you wouldn't want to do that. Too many addicts.
@@kbanghart I live in a city in SoCal, but I've also lived in remote NorCal in a town of 300 people. Too small to even be on a map.
@@CodaMission I live just outside sacramento, and lived in Shasta County for 6 years. Also in redlands.
@@kbanghart then I'm surprised you haven't seen it. I was up in Hathaway Pines, between Murphys and Markleeville
This is a great homage to films of the 1940's & 1950's but with a modern bent. When the clerk asks Frank what he needs the weaponry for and he just gives him that "look". I love movies that try to limit dialogue and go for communication through gestures or facial expressions. This movie had a gritty undertone without getting gory or sexual. A truly adult film for adult audiences. They aren't many made anymore of that kind of audience...
"Show, dont tell" is always a solid approach for films.
Or acted without constant one liners and inane, back and forth 'banter'.
@@R.R.R.465 Well stated ! :)
There are very few “real” actors today, Costner is one of them. I remember when actors actually conveyed their feelings by acting, they didn’t need a lot of unnecessary dialogue to show what they meant and thought. It was actual acting, they could convey f*#k you without having to say it and be just vulgar.
Old movies did this, conveying thoughts and ideas without speaking. The message was powerful. New movies just miss the point in order to pander to a modern perspective.@@malcolmr3 e
"Da Uzi 9 millimeter"
Don't forget the plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
@@cmm07r just what ya see pal
Boooyaaakaaasha
Da uzi 9 milamedah
This is why Kostner is one of my favorite actors. What he does with his voice in this movie is just amazing. He really owns the character of Frank Hamer and you believe that he’s the badass lawman that Hamer actually was. And he was able to portray Hamer in a realistic way in comparison to the 70’s version with “ Bonnie and Clyde” and do some real justice to the man’s legend.
Because he needs 1 gun that won't jam.
It's a ok movie at best , it's a bit more accurate than the Original Bonnie and Clyde film but that film is a timeless masterpiece regardless of they romanticized them as good ppl
@@maralinekozial9131 I'm a fan of Warren Beatty as well and that first film is iconic, I'm not denying that by any means. I just think they did Hamer better justice in this film. I know it's all perspective and this one highlights the lawmen instead of the outlaws. I just like this one as well
@@kencox5192 no they definitely did Frank's character better & Costner was perfect for the role just like he was for Elliot Ness in The Untouchables decades earlier ❤️
Imagine walking into a store and buying fully auto Thompson's and BARs and just walking out with them.
exactly the way it should be...if you can afford them, you should be able to own them
@@thomast8539 So only the rich will have the best guns...
Just like it should be
The good old days
@@GreatBigRanz /sigh,, no.. The govt. with taxes and limitations and forcing remodeling of guns because they woook sooo scawyy.. THEY make it expensive. Guns are usually cheap and so was ammo until right after a democrat gets elected.. We're past being infringed on at this point. So the year of this movie up until clinton's first term guns ammo were cheap and then under clinton they went high and then it went down a bit then back up to stupid with obama and Trump was fought non stop by the democrats so it just kept on going u p n up n up. and now with biden,, kaboom..
That's why only the rich can afford it now. yep this was a tirade and yep you had it coming
“Hey, just what you see, pal”
😂😂
I love the looks between the store owner and the kid, they're like "damn this guy is cleaning us out".
This was my first ever time acting in a real movie!!! It was like 3 years ago but I still remember getting to meet Kevin and Woody. It was such a great day.
@@CamsterOG Dude you were awesome. Hope you get more roles!
The Great Depression is going on, they probably really appreciated the business and the money made.
Actually, I think it is a pleasant change in pace when a paying customer already knows what they want and asks for it. Questions are kept at a minimum and out the door they go.
Probably paid off all his monthly costs (or more) and made a nice little profit in one transaction.
It doesn't get more american than this.
correction: doesn't get more Texan than this
@@jaygonztx Not all Texans are idiots who have to have a million guns.
@@kbanghart it doesn't take someone living under a rock to know that there is a massive gun culture in Texas
@@kbanghart Because I'm sure someone like you equates unarmed defenselessness to being more intelligent somehow?
@@kbanghart Guns and ammo can be a wise investment for many reasons. If well kept, they not only keep their value, but mature. The stock market and real estate markets could crash on a whim, but these will never loose value; In that unlikely situation, their value would skyrocket astronomically. However, that is the moment when you might need them the most to protect the most important commodity: Your life. Have you ever heard the fact that "our society is only 9 missed meals away from complete anarchy"
From Gremlins: "I'm telling all my investors to put their money into canned food and shotguns."
Great scene for Costner. Knows his character, knows his lines and knows the scene. Comes off relaxed and natural...
Back in the days where you could just walk into a gun shop and buy a brand new Thompson!
You could get it shipped to your house before 1934.
Yeah, PayPal was a lot easier back then. Of course everything was dialup, from a phone booth.
Yep and for less than a clip for a handgun lol
The famous/infamous Tommy Gun
You could order the 1921 chicago typewriter for next to nothing to your door no tax stamp. If they made suppressors for them back then it would have come with one of those too. Then FDR, Carter, Reagan, Bush and Son, Clinton, Obama and Trump and soon maybe even Biden or Kamala will be ripping your 2A abilities to shreds.
Ah the good old days. When you could just walk in and buy a Thompson and a B.A.R. When the only waiting period was as long as it took to write a bill of sale.
i can go down to the local crackhouse and buy an AK in less than an hour, be back at my house(unless the stab and rob me) grilling up a steak and shooting twin banana clips off.
You weren’t even alive lol and if you were you were too young to remember them..
@@Maso777 Just because you weren’t around doesn’t mean you can’t appreciate a simpler time.
An armed society is a polite society.
@@alecbowman4127 Armed And Fabulous
In those days you could also go down the street to the hardware store and buy dynamite of the shelf too.
In these days you could go buy a Howitzer if you could afford it.
@@1337penguinman you can do that now too
Guess what the dynamite was used for?
Yep, fishing.
Often the hardware stores sold the guns and ammo too, so it was 1-stop shopping
@@nodeloliver6201 dynamite was the 1930s preferred way to remove a stump too. Lol.
1st thing I’d do with a Time machine 😁👍🏾
Hope you’ve got money
Yep, they go across the road for a Porterhouse steak, homefries and a tall glass of cold beer and a pack of smokes.
Really? Marylin was once a starving actress. Just saying...
@@BradBrassman god bless America
Hell yeah! Gotta find some money from that time period though.
I always come back to this scene. Its fun seeing the looks on their face when Frank is purchasing all the guns/rifles.
The salesman is Steve Vernon he walked my wife down the aisle,good friend of ours
That's back when you could buy an automatic rifle without the tax stamp or background checks. Only thing needed was the cash.
People like Bonnie and Clyde are the reasons why we have gun control in the first place.
@@leavemealoneyoutube1707 Who stole their guns from the national guard and didn't buy them lmao
@@wurzel9671 Well yeah, the National Guard has long been lead by inept fools. The entire organization is full of brain dead inbreds. Still is to this day.
@Jay C
But they did going around killing whoever the wanted, dumbass. You don’t seem to know your history.
The "good ole days". Kids use to bring their rifles to school and store them in their lockers for the school shooting club.
i loved this movie. Was nice seeing an adventure like this from the point of view of someone other than the criminals for a change.
I do enjoy his comment about “a gun that won’t jam” because my 94 Winchester is a favorite of my collection. But, he had already asked for an 03 Springfield and a Smith 1917. Just can’t help but smile at it. Great scene and great movie.
Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms should be a shopping list and not a government agency.
The ATF might as well change their name to the Anti-American squad.
...how else is Trump going to take your guns?
@@MrKogline Hahaha!!! Oh that has to be the funniest shit I’ve read in a long time. Change that name to “Biden” or “the Democrats” and you will be on the mark.
Bank robbers, Booze runners, and Tobacco bootleggers hurting the legit companies brought about alcohol and tobacco regs and laws even before prohibition and taxation by the Feds, and the primary goal of ATF in combating tobacco trafficking is to enforce the federal laws relating to tobacco trafficking of domestically produced and counterfeit cigarettes and tobacco products...Unless you like smoking cow shit, and bugs! By the way, American companies were headed for bankruptcy before the ATF because all the cheap, bootleg cigarettes being smuggled into the country from Canada and Cuba, Nicaragua, Mexico ETC, and homemade booze that had always been around, that was blinding and killing people!
@@robertwalker5794 "Will seriously look at" banning suppressors. - Don himself.
Shall not be infringed.
My grandfather owned a General Mercantile and farm implement business from 1907 through 1931. He stocked primarily Winchester rifles and the like. Thompson submachine guns were a special order and only sold a few. I Don't recall him mentioning the sale of Browning Automatic Rifles.
Mt grandfather once told me a story ... he had gone off to have a bit of adventure as a young man, and gave it all up when he was about 20 in 1928. He never talked about what he'd done, but ... so he was making his way home, and had made it to "someplace near St Louis" when he ran out of money. So he went to a pawn shop and pawned his gun. It got enough money to get him back to central New York.
As the years went by, he had frequently regretted that decision, feeling there must have been a way to get that money and not part with his gun.
Driving long-haul trucks about 40 years later, he arrived at a delivery early and had to wait for them to accept the load, so he went for a walk to see the town. He had no real idea where he was, but the place looked familiar.
And there on the main street, in the window of a pawn shop, was his gun.
He went in and said to the clerk, "I don't have my pawn ticket with me, but ..." and proceeded to tell him the story.
In the end, he got the gun back for what he's pawned it for. And owned it for thirty more years.
(I don't think he convinced them of the truth of it being his gun so much as he traded them a really good story for the gun.)
Cool story. I doubt they would have had the pawned item in the window for 40 years but cool nevertheless.
Well, you haven’t convinced me either but thanks for the story.
I bought the DVD of "The Highwaymen," and I cannot praise it enough. Woody Harrelson, as usual, provides a stellar performance, portraying real-life Texas Ranger Maney Gault, with his conscience that he wears on his sleeve, yet is sharp as a brass tack when he faces THE moment of truth. And now that the pretty boy veneer has finally melted away, Kevin Costner shines like a newly minted coin as a pretty damn good actor, assuming a roughened, throaty way of speaking in portraying the real-life Ranger Frank Hamer, and carrying a hardened, determined and angry focus for hunting down and stopping the cold-blood killers Bonnie & Clyde. This particular scene of him "loading for bear" for the gun fight is particularly effective. He goes in and comes out with exactly what he knows he'll need for the ultimate encounter, which all master lawmen are capable. FOUR STARS for the film, FOUR STARS each for Harrelson and Costner. P.S. He orders weapons and ammo the way I order lox & cream cheese and a bag of bagels at my local deli.
And I'm glad it didn't show him as particularly happy buying everything, I mean he wasn't a psychopath, so going to kill someone shouldn't be all that enjoyable, especially for a family guy.
Didn't know this was on DVD
@@The_Republic_of_Ireland What's a DVD?
The days before the NFA were AWESOME!
and the currency was real too.
@@greybeard277 True Enough!
Damn the NFA! And damn the anti gunners!
Democrats are jackasses.
@@alecbowman4127 Amen! But it's not just Democrats.
@@caedmonnoeske3931 Ah yes… Rhinos
I’ve watched this movie 9 or 10 times I bet. One hell of a good movie! Great movie and how they did things and how they brought down Bonnie and Clyde
Gun shop goals
The movie is a quiet gem. Love it. I went away and researched KC’s character. FASCINATING human. Great at maths. Completely dedicated to a manhunt. Principled. Came from a time of hunting Klan and Banditos on horseback in the wildlands. Legendary TR.
An immaculate purchase even today. I'm not drooling, you are.
One of my favorite scenes in any movie in the last 20 years.
Never seen anything more american in my life 🥰
He needed a bald eagle on one arm and a Big Mac in the other hand. Then it would be the most American thing.
@@matts1166 ... Bible in one hand, AK47 in the other...
There’s nothing American about this scene since you can’t do this anymore 😢
F-k yeah... 😎
A couple of years ago my wife and I went into a Rural King store.
Girl at the front door says, "Hi. Would you like to buy an AR15?"
"Sure."
Did the ATF paperwork and walked out with a S&W AR15. No ammo though. They were out of .223 and .556
This was during the big firearm shortage in the U.S. and Rural King had received a huge shipment of S&W's.
Yall are gonna say im bullshitting when i say this but the son in the gunstore is actually one of my close friends and i was really surprised when i saw him in this movie. Good shit Carter
I think that the actor has posted comments here.
Only one gun that won't jam ..... 94 Winchester pre 64 😁
I guess he’s getting a head start on the coronavirus gun surge....
Measles and chicken pox back then 😂
Dustbowl surge.
Awesome ASMR scene and I love the mannerisms of Costner in general and his raspy voice that is so relaxing to me. He walks in the door all quiet and checking out the location of each gun on the shelf before opening his mouth to "keep both of them" in the shop busy while he picked out others from the book that he had circled ahead of time. He didn't want to be pressured by a salesman mindset, so he took it to them first as the buyer and kept them busy. In retail, I loved it when the rare customer would come in and do this similar thing with me for various electronics products that were high value and I'd get to put this massive receipt on the employee board that other employees were in awe at. It wasn't that special, of course...but sure felt good at the time and made me feel like I was doing a really good since since management sucked.
was just thinking the same thing. the calm, low conversation, the soft clicking/clacking of things. interesting to listen to and also soothing in a way
Movie mistake: When he is viewing the paper with the list of guns, at the top you see a German Gewehr 43 which was not developed until 1943, about 9 years after the setting of this film.
Maybe he was a time traveler.
"That'll do ot"
"Which will do it?"
"All of them"
"We might close early today..."
"Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range."
"HEY, just what you see, pal."
This is one of Costner's best movies that came out over the last 20years. Love how gritty he portraits Frank Hamer. Pretty sure that's what Hamer was like in real life.
In the 50's, Thompson's sales had dropped off after WWII, so they went after ranchers as a possible new market. My dad bought one from a magazine ad and it came in the mail. Great days!
No.
They marketed to ranchers from the start, as Thompson missed delivering in time for WWI. The National Firearms Act of 1934 required tax stamps and ATF registration. While other guns could be sold mail order after 1934, that was no longer true of machine guns.
@@M1911jln Thanks for the clarification on the background story of how my dad ended up owning a mail order Thompson.
That would have been in the 20's and early 30's, before NFA in 1934. That restricted full auto sales and set minimum barrel lengths of 16" and 18" for rifles and shotguns respectively.
Ah the good ole days when you could walk into any gun shop and buy out the place with no questions asked.
Well, they might question, you just don't have to answer.
Still can, but you'll die of old age by the time you fill out all the 4473s and NICS checks
Love how he asks for “that old Winchester you got there, that 30-30” and then listens to the action.
The owner of the gun store must have had a good day
...then as he was heading home, he realized how much firepower he sold to one guy, and decided to leave the state for a few days. While on the road, he called his wife and gave her a polite warning that if she was on the road and saw this Ford sedan behind her with a license plate beginning 690, she should let it pass.
@@winternow2242 LOL
He probably closed early
My favorite scene in the movie, for sure. Oh, the good 'ol days. I wish I was around for 'em.
One of the most boss scenes of all time. Reminds me of my grandpa.
"Lemme cipher up ya bill.......$36.73."
"Take a company check?"
Netflix needs to make more movies like this
"No sir, I don't mind at all." I love the look right after. he answered the question without answering the question.
this is a friggin awesome movie - HIGHLY RECOMMEND
Best part is that he used none of those long guns himself. He used a Remington model 8 in .35 Remington . Both in real life and in the movie.
I stumbled onto this movie...very enjoyable.
This makes my iron become the big iron
This made me laugh out loud lol
As a Texan that owns a *Big* Iron, I appreciate this comment.
The "do you mind me asking?", "not at all", was a classic line in UNDERBELLY, a real-life based Australian crime show.
I watched this movie at my grandparents house, my grandfather and I nerded out hard over this scene
Such a typical scene... A guy buys out the local gun shop and then his friend shows up to help him shoot up the ammo, LOL!
All jokes aside, this was a great movie! These guys were perfect!
Frickin' Woody. Ya gotta love him in everything he does.
"Mind if I ask why you need all this firepower?"
"Hmm, last I checked, it's a free country. That's why."
When you hear talk of a gun ban
As a Democrat I love it when Trumpers buy more guns
@@kbanghart Why?
@@southparkmexican8838 because they have less to give to Trump and their other psycho idols
@@kbanghart Is your brain working? That doesn’t even make sense.
@@southparkmexican8838 did you even understand what I said? Maybe not.
When a gun owner wins the lottery
Like that meme, "You get 30 minutes to spend $10k in one store." Easy peasy.
I LOVE this. That day they closed early and went home to do what they loved the most. Eating lard with white bread❤
06MAY2021 - Not just lard, bacon-wrapped, batter-dipped, deep fried lard. Makes me think of "Hey, Grandpa, what's for supper?"
They added a layer of white sugar to the sandwich too.
This is like a 1930's version of Terminator. "All of them."
I’m surprised he didn’t ask for a phased plasma rifle in the 40 kilowatt range
This is what a free country looks like.
this makes me realize that 100% free is rly not a functional society
@@dotsinki1096 only when people are weak and poorly educated
@@jesusamador2473 and when children aren't sent to school what do they grow up to be
@@dotsinki1096 depends on the parents, frankly our school system is a joke these days. We become a product of our own environment. Ignorance does not mean stupid however and we can learn however people by nature do not change so if they are raised as trash then most likely they will remain trash
@@dotsinki1096 freemen have the freedom to make their choice. You want to give it up for safety ? Go to prison then, free health care, free education, full time security, three meals and a roof over your head.
The Guns are top notch. Very well researched. Imagine walking into a gun store now and getting a Colt Monitor off the rack 😂 that thing will stop anything dead in its tracks and then some.
A 30-30 rifle in the right hands is a fierce weapon. My grandfather had one and that man could shoot bees with it plus it had enough stopping power to bring down most anything.
now THIS was the good ol days!
Aye, this was such a good movie fr🎉
How about a Red Dead Redemption 3 with an older Jack Marston dealing with criminals and gangsters down south during the 1930s?
That'd be a dream....
@Starscream91 It wouldn't be dumb because the Redemption series of games have effectively become the Marston Family saga. Stop trying to discourage the idea, because like the guy ^^^ above, I fucking want this too. We can have a RDR3 in the American West without it being the Wild West.
@Starscream91 Game ends with JOHN MARSTON on top of Beacher's Hope because "you know what" happens to Arthur Morgan. I don't hate the "West", if I did, then I wouldn't want a sequel. OUR "stupid" idea most likely won't happen; because of people like YOU.
@Trainwreck727 Exactly. And since this is Rockstar Games we're talking about, I know they can do it well. Automobiles and riding horses can still be a thing. And it can technically still be in the "West".
@Trainwreck727 Yeah. Maybe Bugsy Siegel and Al Capone as well. We can have antagonists like mafia families, bootleggers, bank robbers, the Pinkertons coming back and the FBI in one game.
"Ok, I'm done looking at them. Have a fine rest of your day."
*leaves*
There is a posting on YT from the armorer for this movie. It is very very good. He talks about just every gun you see in the movie with many historical tidbits. He also explains how dedicated Kevin Costner was to realism and historical accuracy. Also addresses the difficulty in procurring and replicating some of the weapons used in this great movie.
I freaking loved this movie, the guns, the clothes, and the cars......mostly the guns though
Back in the day you could buy an fully automatic thompson from a catalogue.
My words are true.
This is the sexiest movie scene i have ever seen.
Frank Hamer was a no nonsense badass.
I love how that kid made 100 pounds of steel look like 15 when he carried that crate to the car.
It should still be that way today
"No guns sold to minors"
The only gun law we need
This comment is some serious dumb shit considering the gun laws were much stricter than that. Hell, Tombstone banned guns entirely, and that was in the 19th century
@@CodaMission You could quite literally have a machine gun shipped to your front door with no paperwork beyond a receipt.
@@chaimafaghet7343 when
@@CodaMission Any time before 1934. Even thereafter you could have a non-NFA gun shipped right to your fucking door up until 1968.
@@chaimafaghet7343 Sounds hellish. Probably why crime rates were higher. Also probably why entire towns outlawed wearing a gun
I love that Hamer recognizes a 30-30 when he sees one. He sure as hell would know at a glance in real life, his skill with rifles and pistols was legendary. He'd shoot pebbles tossed in the air, with a 30-06 rifle.
@Captain Hindsight You are trying to look wise by making baseless asumptions. You were ignorant of the fact before I told you, and you remain ignorant of the circumstances. That is not wisdom. It's not even hindsight. It's simple arrogance.
@Captain Hindsight I assumed nothing. I read your words and I knew precisely what they meant. No assumptions involved. Now you are backpedaling with an explanation. There you go with "probably". You're ignorant of the circumstances, and you are ignorant of where and how it was done. yet you still pronounce judgnment. Bui please continue digging your hole. Maybe you can accuse me of another thing I didn't do while you're at it.
@Captain Hindsight I understand why your name isn't "Captain Vocabulary". You claimed I did or said something wrong, incorrect, or improper. That's an accusation, just for your future reference. Maybe write that down.
@Captain Hindsightyou definitely need to work on that. You can do better. Try again.
This was an awesome film... Perfectly cast.
"No guns sold to children"
Well, that is reassuring.
Circa 1930 back when capital punishment was an option for teens as young as 14 children probably had a different meaning.🙄
@@florinivan6907 Interesting. Thank you for the context.
@@florinivan6907 Under liberals punishment for crimes and keeping the lunatics locked up is next to nonexistent. Leftists are useless in most situations and are amoral degenerates that put forth the worst kinds of social policy.
@@lastswordfighter Damn this nutcase is really angry kids couldn't buy Tommy guns.
This movie is seriously underrated
I remember walking into a K-Mart in Tampa back in 1991. Brand-new Beretta 92FS sitting in a glass case with boxes of 9mm Luger.
Swift elbow was all it would have taken. Was a different world thirty years ago, let alone 85 years ago.
i grew up in the 90s and i keep seeing people saying this. yet when i traveled the country with my military dad. not once have i saw a 7/11 or some random gas station sell a fire arm. i been to 30 out of the 50 states. back then.
@@CertifiedForkLiftOperator69420 Gas stations, no never saw guns or ammo...this was in the hunting/outdoor section of the K-Mart
This is how buying weapons in America should be. Bought multiple automatic weapons and enough ammo to supply a small Infantry unit, and the only background check was "what you need all this for?"
Well if the guy really gave him a problem all he would have to do is show his Texas Rangers shield, and that would be the end of the conversation.
this is how I felt when I went to the gunstore. Walked in. Told em what I wanted. Walked out 30 minutes later with my goods and threw them bad boys in the car xD
Nice shopping list.
Everytime I look in my safe and see my great grandfather's ol whinchester 1894 and his model 1912 I chuckle and think of this scene I picture him and his father buying them in a hardware store😊 some Europeans and anti gun people don't understand why we Americans value our firearms so much....a lot of them our passed down from generation to generation...the most accurate .22 I own was my great grandpas as well and my great GRANDMOTHER used to hunt squirrels with it during the great depression while he was away working for his family. Growing up hunting with my father with them and how I felt when he gave some of them to me... That right there is why a lot of us value our guns so much, something the other people wouldn't understand unfortunately 🙁
Respect from a brazilian citizen
Nah, we just don't care
A lot of Europeans still own weapons older than your country. The fundamental difference is a Euro thinks 100 miles is a long way, and a Yank thinks 100 years is a long time.