Creating ramification on a Bonsai (Hedge pruning)

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  • Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
  • Walter Pall, teacher of the "Developing Deciduous Bonsai" course, explains his Hedge pruning technique in this free lecture.
    For more free lectures and information about the online course, see:
    www.bonsaiempi...
    Topics discussed:
    - The technique shown on a Japanese maple
    - Defoliation in combination with Hedge pruning
    - Partial and full defoliation explained

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  • @TomTomTomTom538
    @TomTomTomTom538 4 роки тому +35

    This is the same thing Peter Chan has been doing for years too. Seems a good way for a nursery to keep control of alot of trees and then the customer can come in and do the refinement.

    • @paulmoult1916
      @paulmoult1916 4 роки тому +10

      Peter Chan is clueless compared to Walter Pall

    • @TomTomTomTom538
      @TomTomTomTom538 4 роки тому +2

      @@paulmoult1916 totally agree. His ability does not stretch beyond this technique.

    • @shor8959
      @shor8959 4 роки тому +1

      Wraptech who cares

    • @adiwiweka3047
      @adiwiweka3047 4 роки тому

      Peter aims for triangular shape. Walter's is pool shape

    • @clydewhy343
      @clydewhy343 2 роки тому +1

      Are you saying Peter chan is an imposter ?!

  • @cronicd21
    @cronicd21 4 роки тому +2

    Pall is so real and genuine, he is a true professional, no ego, just pure advice and practicality.

  • @BonsaiEcho
    @BonsaiEcho 4 роки тому +8

    Well, that explains why Walter Pall is considered by many as The GOAT!

  • @nachtaktiv1
    @nachtaktiv1 4 роки тому +5

    Anybody who agrees with his method should look at those trees in Winter...and next to it you should place a tree pruned the japanese way...you will see the difference...

    • @KrypeaxFX
      @KrypeaxFX 4 роки тому +1

      Tell me the difference

    • @danielz6357
      @danielz6357 4 роки тому +9

      I think that Walter struggled in this video to explain the full method he uses, but in another article he explains that after these 'hedge' cuts during the growing season, in winter he goes back and refines the tree further and carefully because he now has so many branches and many unnecessary one's with long inter-nodes or that don't work with the design. After this process in winter he then has a very refined tree with lots of ramification from the branches he has chosen to keep and refine, that would look as good as a tree pruned the japanese way. This method however promotes the health and vigor (horticultural aspect) of the tree because instead of being constantly pinched back, the tree is allowed to grow out, giving it much needed energy and strength.

    • @Luckma1
      @Luckma1 3 роки тому +1

      @@danielz6357 good that someone says it. He partly mentions it in the video but I think he should have made that point a bit more clear.

  • @JJ-pv9rf
    @JJ-pv9rf 3 роки тому +1

    For anyone new to Bonsai - my understanding is that he is only taking off the long growth - cutting far away from any branches that he would think of keeping. This just saves a lot of time and shows you what's underneath. Go slow yet do what he's doing.

  • @craighunter3273
    @craighunter3273 4 роки тому +3

    Well done. Nice to see you reminding us all to minimise the bull shit. Calling it what it is and doing the job. Take a bow.

    • @rhysbertrand8903
      @rhysbertrand8903 4 роки тому +1

      until you dont know how to actually create ramification and how to reduce internode length

  • @brendancahill3376
    @brendancahill3376 3 роки тому

    Great to watch and very natural and no mention of wire . A breath of fresh air well done Walter.

    • @Luckma1
      @Luckma1 3 роки тому +1

      he uses wire too. After dropping all leaves in autumn he will select the branches he likes and cuts off what he doesnt want and then wires every few years or so (not sure about maples as it leaves scars easily but other deciduous species he does). Here you can see the different stages but this species is also a very very strong grower walter-pall-bonsai.blogspot.com/2020/12/oriental-hornbeam-64.html

  • @danielz6357
    @danielz6357 4 роки тому +3

    This method works well, and I think is misunderstood because of the name 'hedge pruning'. The basic concept of the method for developing the tree and ramification is: to let the tree grow out and then cut it back; as opposed to continually pinching new growth.
    As Walter says, it doesn't matter how you cut the growth back (he has 1000's of trees so hedging them aggressively is quick and effective), just that you give the tree time to grow out before cutting back, which results in a healthy, strong and vigorous tree, as opposed to a weak and surviving tree through constant pinching. He says in other articles that once the tree is sufficiently ramified you can pinch for a season or two, especially if its going to go on show etc., but then to revert back to allowing it to grow and cutting back.

  • @picciafoobar
    @picciafoobar 4 роки тому +38

    This reminds me Peter Chan's techniques

    • @TomTomTomTom538
      @TomTomTomTom538 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah except Peter doesn't do any refinement after this technique. Maybe because he doesn't know how or because he doesn't have time, or because it leaves the customer something to do

    • @Robert_McGarry_Poems
      @Robert_McGarry_Poems 4 роки тому +3

      and beauty, he warns about finger cuts too.

    • @BackSeatHump
      @BackSeatHump 4 роки тому +3

      Peter Chan's technique reminds me of Walter Pall's technique.

    • @Dromedarafa
      @Dromedarafa 3 роки тому +1

      This was exactly what I was about to say when I went in the comment section. 😂

  • @BackSeatHump
    @BackSeatHump 4 роки тому +2

    Defoliating this maple does not worry me. But the vigour in which Walter "plucks" the foliage (at his age) does scare me.

    • @sexxyperv
      @sexxyperv 3 роки тому +1

      I cannot explain why him just grabbing and pulling at the tree bothers me. I wished he'd not do that.

  • @bonsaihigh
    @bonsaihigh 4 роки тому +2

    Simple and effective!
    Im glad that you also stated the health of the tree and the timing of the processes. Some people are just don't have the patience. Killing many trees
    Bonsai on!

  • @jpalmer1967
    @jpalmer1967 4 роки тому +1

    Tried and true method. It works, period. If you think you're hurting the tree, sit there for 7 hours and cut each individual branch. Or, if you're getting a tree ready for a show, then be more meticulous. Knock yourself out. Thanks Walter.

  • @Robert_McGarry_Poems
    @Robert_McGarry_Poems 4 роки тому +1

    He knew exactly what shape he wanted and went right to it, no hesitation. That is experience in action.

  • @wasdjose3802
    @wasdjose3802 Рік тому +1

    very well explained video

  • @TheShirpashirpa
    @TheShirpashirpa 4 роки тому +1

    Walter is gangster as fuck

  • @lakeelsinorebonsai1203
    @lakeelsinorebonsai1203 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome video! Excellent technique! I love Walter Pals method! 👍👍

  • @matthewcondon1985
    @matthewcondon1985 2 роки тому

    I love this! Will this technique work for ficus Benjamina? I have several that I'm wanting to grow as Bonsai. I would love to grow them to a large, natural form.

  • @BenBSeattle
    @BenBSeattle 4 роки тому

    reminds me of edward scissorhands. But I can see this as a good way to get a lot of trees done quickly

  • @BadOmenRGV
    @BadOmenRGV 4 роки тому +1

    Killing that stigma. My man Walter coming with facts.

  • @LessTalkMoreDelicious
    @LessTalkMoreDelicious 4 роки тому +1

    What about Golden Full Moon?
    I defoliated all my J maples in summer, and the Golden Full Moon is the only one that didn’t re-leaf 😰(it has plump new buds tho)

  • @dsicloltotn
    @dsicloltotn 4 роки тому +1

    anyone notice Bjorg is putting out videos in direct conflict of this lesson? I wonder if Walter Pall is who he is referring too on his podcast rant.

  • @andyt.80
    @andyt.80 2 роки тому +1

    Can i do defoliation in mid of july on a maple oder hornbeam?

    • @bonsaiempire
      @bonsaiempire  2 роки тому

      I think this page will answer your questions: www.bonsaiempire.com/basics/styling/defoliation

    • @andyt.80
      @andyt.80 2 роки тому

      @@bonsaiempire thanks for the link

  • @Douglas-Heffernan
    @Douglas-Heffernan 2 роки тому

    How old is this Tree?

  • @sergiogmez5756
    @sergiogmez5756 4 роки тому +2

    His techniques are way ahead of this time..

    • @briankavanagh7191
      @briankavanagh7191 4 роки тому +1

      Sergio did this technique in the late 80's cut + grow method it produced great ramification and branch structure until 15 yrs later it didn't wake up in spring absolutely gutted.

    • @rhysbertrand8903
      @rhysbertrand8903 4 роки тому +1

      lol this is way behind. ahead is deliberate pruning to reduce internode length and size. dennis vojtilla is a much better deciduous artist

  • @taylormoore3400
    @taylormoore3400 4 роки тому +3

    Some people just wanna watch the world burn

    • @TheMrjoehughes
      @TheMrjoehughes 4 місяці тому

      Yes those are the people using the other methods lol

  • @BackGardenBonsai
    @BackGardenBonsai 4 роки тому +4

    I love the goat method. Lol. As silly as it sounds, he is talking a lot of sense!

    • @rhysbertrand8903
      @rhysbertrand8903 4 роки тому +1

      except he completely brushes over structural pruning and reducing internode length.

  • @HAJUBONSAI
    @HAJUBONSAI 3 роки тому

    top

  • @grzegorzbonsai
    @grzegorzbonsai 4 роки тому

    Rzeźnik!

  • @marcusschneider8557
    @marcusschneider8557 2 роки тому

    Peter Chan Chicken style

  • @PSPMHaestros
    @PSPMHaestros 4 роки тому +3

    meh...

  • @jhonhernandez4071
    @jhonhernandez4071 4 роки тому

    Humm que tal la delicadeza de este señor para podar y para desfilar el arce ? Que falta de tacto ! Pffff

    • @hugotipple
      @hugotipple 2 роки тому

      did you hear/understand what he spoke during the whole video?

    • @averyprice9422
      @averyprice9422 Рік тому

      His trees speak for themselves

  • @ludimiva
    @ludimiva 4 місяці тому

    Mediocre

  • @bonsaijourney1129
    @bonsaijourney1129 4 роки тому

    Wisdom is sexy!!!

  • @ALEX-ok9es
    @ALEX-ok9es 4 роки тому

    Lol so fast

  • @noobassscrub-ass354
    @noobassscrub-ass354 4 роки тому

    First