it looks BEAUTIFUL the way it is. i guess everyone has their own taste but that trunk and the structure of the tree at the end is BEAUTIFUL! dont change anything lol
choosing either front is going with a different 'school of thought' in bonsai. some people hate uro, and would choose the other front even though the silhouet is less strong. traditionally, the Japanese wanted bonsai to look perfect, and would discard material with large wounds like this. ofcourse those traditions are relatively young. as I learned recently, even the Japanese styles are always evolving.
The other option, I've seen some people do with these maples with too much root spread, is to do root grafts on the base where you want the new nebari to be, and then cut it back once the root grafts are established.
at 9:33 Walter told about Trident maples. This is an small mistake. This is an Acer palmatum. We learn a lot from you. Thanks you for sharing this video's.
it's an exceptional perspective, because it illustrates how Mr Pall straddles the line. He is known for naturalistic bonsai, but obv. that doesn't mean he invites disharmony in that randomness.
and actually, I would disagree; a tree in nature - after 100 years - generally looks beautiful, because after all the biological processes / survival techniques branches would have been selected and grown in patterns that always looks beautiful to us. the challenge is mirroring this on a smaller scale.
I have a question about this tree and its trunk thickness. I imagine this tree is incredibly old, and any information on its earlier life is mostly speculation, but I ask this sort of generally - how much of the trunk thickness can be attributed to being grown in the ground, and how much on average would this tree's trunk be able to grow in thickness in the pot in this video? Is it better practice to develop the trunk in the ground before moving in to a bonsai pot because doing so significantly slows trunk thickness?
Ryan Mitchell of course Ryan... all of the trunk size of this tree is because this tree was grown in the open ground for some years and the tree is not so old you would imagine...I could try to estimate maybe some 10 to 15 years of growth in the open ground in a nursery in Japan if you plant the same tree in the pot and leave it...of course with regular repottings...for 15 years...it would be not more than a few centimeters thick after all that time so...growth in the open ground if you start with a very young stock is absolutely essential for achieving a trunk girth :)
That's what I thought. I really appreciate the response. One last thing - over those 10-15 years in the ground, do you think there was any work done to it - specifically to the primary branches? (for example: a cut and grow method every couple years) I imagine after that amount of time the branches would be pretty thick towards the base, and cutting such thick branches would leave some serious scarring.
sure... every few years...lets say...every 3 to 4 years tree was drasticaly cut back to produce the movement of the trunk...it was probably left without all the branches and cut back to the hight of 10 to 15 cm then left alone next 4 years...after that time all of the branches off and cut back to the hight of 25 cm....etc ok?
That was not '' the hedge prune method'''. Thank you for uploading this video and for free!.
I always enjoy watching your older videos, keep up your great work. -Hugo
it looks BEAUTIFUL the way it is. i guess everyone has their own taste but that trunk and the structure of the tree at the end is BEAUTIFUL! dont change anything lol
choosing either front is going with a different 'school of thought' in bonsai.
some people hate uro, and would choose the other front even though the silhouet is less strong.
traditionally, the Japanese wanted bonsai to look perfect, and would discard material with large wounds like this.
ofcourse those traditions are relatively young. as I learned recently, even the Japanese styles are always evolving.
You have some incredible videos. Thanks so much for posting them. Great teacher
The other option, I've seen some people do with these maples with too much root spread, is to do root grafts on the base where you want the new nebari to be, and then cut it back once the root grafts are established.
at 9:33 Walter told about Trident maples. This is an small mistake. This is an Acer palmatum. We learn a lot from you. Thanks you for sharing this video's.
"Not everything nature makes is beautiful". I've never heard this perspective (though I know he's referring to aesthetics). Good point.
it's an exceptional perspective, because it illustrates how Mr Pall straddles the line. He is known for naturalistic bonsai, but obv. that doesn't mean he invites disharmony in that randomness.
and actually, I would disagree; a tree in nature - after 100 years - generally looks beautiful, because after all the biological processes / survival techniques branches would have been selected and grown in patterns that always looks beautiful to us.
the challenge is mirroring this on a smaller scale.
I totaly agree with mr Pall: hollow the tree!
What is the tree in the background. It has such white bark and red leaves or lowers?
Thanks,
Gerald
The birds sound lovely, where in croatia?
Is there any followup on this one, Sebastian?
Of course Jerry. Soon :)
+SandevBonsai where is it?
I have a question about this tree and its trunk thickness. I imagine this tree is incredibly old, and any information on its earlier life is mostly speculation, but I ask this sort of generally - how much of the trunk thickness can be attributed to being grown in the ground, and how much on average would this tree's trunk be able to grow in thickness in the pot in this video? Is it better practice to develop the trunk in the ground before moving in to a bonsai pot because doing so significantly slows trunk thickness?
Ryan Mitchell
of course Ryan...
all of the trunk size of this tree is because this tree was grown in the open ground for some years
and the tree is not so old you would imagine...I could try to estimate maybe some 10 to 15 years of growth in the open ground in a nursery in Japan
if you plant the same tree in the pot and leave it...of course with regular repottings...for 15 years...it would be not more than a few centimeters thick after all that time
so...growth in the open ground if you start with a very young stock is absolutely essential for achieving a trunk girth
:)
That's what I thought. I really appreciate the response. One last thing - over those 10-15 years in the ground, do you think there was any work done to it - specifically to the primary branches? (for example: a cut and grow method every couple years) I imagine after that amount of time the branches would be pretty thick towards the base, and cutting such thick branches would leave some serious scarring.
sure...
every few years...lets say...every 3 to 4 years tree was drasticaly cut back to produce the movement of the trunk...it was probably left without all the branches and cut back to the hight of 10 to 15 cm
then left alone next 4 years...after that time all of the branches off and cut back to the hight of 25 cm....etc
ok?
Great video. However, I am struggling to find the naturalism. Maybe that's not the goal of this design.
this tree is special
1:07 lol. :)