The Disaster that was Starving in Suburbia [Movie Review]
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- Опубліковано 22 лют 2023
- Looking back at lifetimes 2014 "Starving in Suburbia/Thinspiration" movie. They really thought this movie ws gonn help people but just made everything a lot more worse.
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The dad is a grade A Prick (especially the night he forced leo to throw away his food) and the fact he got out of this scot free while Butterflyana took all the blame makes me so mad every time.
I totally forgot how creepy the boyfriend Brendan is! I actually never realized he was an adult in college, the fact he was dating underage girls went totally over my head.
OMG YES THANK YOU. I thought I was the only one truly disturbed by it from the jump.
yess the part where the friend is like “call the police” uhmm i definitely will
The last straw for me was how they skipped through leo and his struggles. Like, he is literally just gonna die so the movie plot can continue?? Bih what???
Also, I lost it at the "dry ass bread"😭
i think that was the purpose though. Ppl only think it happens to girls so boys fall behind the cracks..
queen come baaack
I feel like writers don't have any idea of what real ED is, so they read, watch some movies and replicate everything in their own movie, and is on and on. I never saw a movie where i can identify myself with. Thank you btw, i'm agree with everything you say about this cringe movie.
truth, only good ed films are the brief life of catherine, my skinny sister, and the taste of emptiness. probably smth else i’m forgetting but i doubt it
11:15 thank you for mentioning this. I hate how disgusting and obnoxious they make people who binge or have buli*ia look when eating or hiding food in movies. It's so dehumanizing and we're not messy like that at all.
No, back up, we can be. The problem is taking it as a stereotype, which is what happens all the time. But we can be messy.
TW MENTION OF ED-DRIVEN ACTIONS LIKE FOOD HOARDING.
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I knew "friends" at a forum that stored food in their rooms, like hoarded in tupper tubs and it would mold over and they couldn't throw it away because it was their "safe foods". I had tons and tons of ketchup and sugar packets and half eaten cookie packs at one point and they were squirreled away in the mess of my bedroom.
Gonna admit. The edit at 15:18 made me smile.
I had a very bad therapist during my very dark ED days and they wonder why people don't fully recover.
I'd rather see the brother's story. They had some interesting characters they just didn't use the strong arcs. I didn't realize it was this old either.
i miss your uploads! i hope youre doing well. 💕
Even as an a person with an active ed when this was released and a member of the proana community, I hated this movie when it came out. It represented like no one because people without an ed don't understand how they work. The brother is legit the only character I think would be a person in real life with an ed. Its so frustrating on so many levels
Totally agree with you,
And as I have/am been a member on a forum it is nothing like the implications this movie tells us how it is. Sure, you may find tips and tricks on them but no one is going to give you straight up how to be “anorexic or bulimic”, especially nowadays.
@@XxXx-lf6xb the movie was from 2015 and ive saw tips on how to "be anorexic" within the last year, its rlly common on my feed tbh
i have an ed and the movie honestly represents me so well bc ed forums are exactly how my disordered eating started. then with ana coaches + i acted pretty similar to the girl during the peak of my ed
I hope I didn’t offend you in any way xx, sorry if I did. I too am a forum member and yes I have seen tips on how to be as well, just never experienced ana coaches. I too have acted like this girl like I ran away from nurses, hit nurses and had crazy outbursts.
I hope you’re okay xx
And so sorry if I hurt your in any way
i was in an ed support forum when this came out and i remember they stickied a thread for all the rubberneckers who came by because of this movie. It said all about how what was in that movie was actually a super small subset of the community, most people visited the forums to be able to make community with people who understand, etc. Problem is, the proliferation of media like this forced a lot of support groups off the mainstream internet and into smaller or more underground sites, and actually making it easier to hide behaviors like this. It’s really disappointing because I had a lot of friends from those sites. When someone wanted to recover, we were all behind them. When someone had a relapse, we consoled and talked them down. There were methods of harm reduction available and always help if you needed it. They still exist today in some form but in all honesty I think todays internet, if anything, makes recovery even harder.
Hope you guys enjoy the review. This was fun to make even though the content is a bit different than my usual. I can't believe this movie is almost 10 years old now...
I love your narration style. You sound so professional, no stuttering or excessive ‘umm’ or ‘and like’. Love it.
i just rewatched ur to the bone review yesterday so this is a pleasant coincidence!
It was fun to watch too! You should consider making it a series.
i'm SO glad to see someone criticizing this movie finally. they made it seem like anorexia, a mental disorder, turns you into a horrible person and an absolute monster within like 5 days. it genuinely made me wonder if the creators have ever interacted with a mentally ill person in their lives because of how insanely ridiculous they made hannah act. it also randomly turned very horror-like towards the end?? i was more focused on how freaking scary it was rather than the overall "anti eating disorder" message
why did u stop posting :(
Ah, this movie… I was like 12-13 when it came out and it did not help at all. I was lurking MPA when this came out, it was such a trigger and I was obsessed with it for some time. I can’t believe I watched this with my mom when it premiered!!🥴
Hope you're doing well. I really miss your videos.❤
girl come backkk
Literally
I identify a lot with this movie. It followed my own experiences with EDNOS pretty well and its making me consider some of the behaviors I still do today. It took her a month to become fully ill and who knows how long to recover. For me it was also a month, and it’s been a decade today since I became sick.
One part of the movie that especially stood out to me was the voice in her head/imagination that chanted at her and degraded her. I know that voice very well. It’s plunged me into fits of starvation and self mutilation and has almost flung me off of bridges. It is terrifying, much like the horror effects towards the end of the movie, sometimes it’s encouraging like in the middle when she met her GW, but it always wants to destroy you. It is like possession, and the pro-Ana of old was like an old church dedicated to worshipping it. You would not have wanted to meet me in those days, I acted a lot like the main character did. Maybe not as bad.. Now I’ve got 14k plus of dental work that needs to be done- really all of my teeth need to be replaced and my heart is often under serious strain just from existing.
Just because your experience with an ED doesn’t match this doesn’t make this less valid. It’s almost like looking in a mirror for me. The point of a movie isn’t to show perfect characters and perfect people either, and with that in mind I think they did a damn good job. Life is messy, eating disorders are even messier.
Please come back to us with a new idol diet video please
I love love reviews like these. Please do more!
You should go over more Lifetime movies! These were my crack a a kid even though they're so poorly made off the conveyer belt 🤣This movie was my guilty pleasure with a secret between friends.
YESSSS
I know you didn't mention it but for me one of the other weird parts of the movie was that like, kiss in the closet when she borrows her brother's laptop. I never understood that or why it was included tbh
this movie seemed like more of a possession movie than an ed film lmfaoo so much weird symbolism
I just wanna say that I love when you do these movie / series "commentaries"
Your reviews are so interesting, please do more of them! Really wish this movie had been about the brother.
eh i can disagree with the critique on the food in the closet scene. Anorexics do tend to hoard food. Although I guess keeping it on dinnerware is odd because we only see her at the actual dinner table
It's true. My bulimic roommate wasa MESS!
Hated using the bathroom after her. Never wanna go thru that experience ever again smh
your voice is so soothing to listen to ☺️
Loved your review!!!! I watched "Starving in Suburbia" in 2017 when my ED was getting worse and worse and back then I thought it was the greatest thing. Looking back at it 6 years later, I can't believe how bad it actually was, for all the reasons you've mentioned. 😭😭😭😭
I remember watching this with my parents when I was 14 and had an ED because I actually thought it portrayed my internal situation haha. Like the freakouts, I wouldn't do that, but that's what my brain would be screaming. I also felt like Hannah was portrayed as trapped in a toxic environment with a toxic family, toxic peers etc. and that's what triggered her ED, while the site just enabled it. The therapist scene went over my head lol cause I'm not American and didn't know about the whole health care situation. Looking back at the movie now... yikes
Kayden:Shows Hannah the pro ana website
Also Kayden:Why are you not eating?!
Hannah:😓...no wonder her bf cheated
the dance freakout scene is so cringe😭
None of these movies seem to accurately showcase difficult it is for some people to be around food and furthermore be seen to be chewing. Few of them show how challenging it is to actually go into a restaurant and order a meal. The act of being seen chewing is problematic for so many people.
In "For The Love of Nancy," the main character actually had an Eating Disorder in real life and it might seem like something insignificant, but I admire her for being able to be filmed chewing.
I also think that people with Eating Disorders are often portrayed as wanting and craving attention. Some people do not want to be noticed like that.
Whoever made this video clearly has no conception how an ED works…
LMAO THE INTERVIEW PORTION WAS FCKING HILARIOUS those ppl don’t have a clue it’s insane
Please do more lifetime movie reviews. I remember the newer films by the earlier 2000s started to become waaaaay more cheesier than the older movies they showed (yea I’m old lol) but I’d also be interested to know how you feel about the original 80s/90s films they released
I know what you mean, I loved the 90's films More. Kates secret was actually pretty good in my opinion. Also the 80/90's seemed more aware that adults can struggle too.
I'd love to see you talk about When Friendship Kills. It's so hilariously insane (although admittedly the way it tackles grief and relapsing isn't half bad, considering it's one of the few movies to do so).
Amazing review
What happened to your video about Park Bo Ram? 😮 I’ve been trying to find it since her passing
i'd love to see more of your reviews on ed movies :))))
Yes. I agree 100%.
Fun fact - the girl who played ButterflyAna was the girl who starred in the Mr Brightside video.
Lifetime really thought the did something 🤦 the good morning America interview is not it.
Ive never watched this movie but omg those parents are so obnoxiously awful.
no bc i literally didn’t know what ana or an ed was and this triggered me into mine at 12 .. i still struggle from it and this movie crosses my mind A LOT
Can you please review the hispanic movie Abzhurda? It's somehow even worse than this one it's about an upper class girl developing ed over a boyfriend
It's been more than 3 months....
Hey everyone! I know most people watching this probably have some sort of ED, so I'm here to share my experience. I was severely bulimic (purging 1-2 times daily) for about 2 years. I've only recently managed to kick the habit, and I've been clean for about a month! What helped me is joining a gym, and focusing on building strength rather than loosing weight. Also increasing my caloric intake to 1400-1500 instead of trying to stick to 800. It's super easy and I eat whatever I want and NEVER feel the urge to binge again. Please take care of yourselves!
I'm glad to see that you're fine now, I wish you to be happy ☺
"This barbaric portrayal of hiding food and letting it rot is extermily unlikely." That's what happened to me.... I'd be too embarressed/scared of the possibility of being caught throwing it away so I'd wait until my parents went to work to throw it out but a lot of the time I was too depressed to get out of bed in time and yeah you know what it would fucking rot in my room and I could smell it and it was awful. A lot of people I've talked to online have had the same thing happen to them so tbh I think you're almost completetly wrong about that.
I've wanted someone to talk about this movie for so long. It would have been a better movie if they had focused on the brother. He had been struggling longer than Hannah and at no point did he have a screaming banshee breakdown. When the mom freaks out about the computer screensaver, I would of thought it was something about free speech. It was a picture of a woman with ducktape over her mouth and the word control written on it.
I love this film and watch it many times a year. I like the way it captures the nightmarish vibe that comes with ana. It included that fact that men can have eds. It reflects the trouble with morality at comes with BPD, it was technical correct even to the point of binging in a car, which is taught in class as one of the most common places to binge. She even quotes the ana creed! As for the boyfriend, it highlights the draw and attraction some women with eds feel for men that are likely narcissistic. Only people with OCD as a comorbid are neat and tidy. The film highlights the family environment and the obsessional behaviour and the underground culture. It is important to remember that everyone is an individual. That is the first thing we were taught in Psychology and when working in a mental health support service.
LOL we watched this in my food and nutrition class in high school in our ED unit. i've been trying to figure out what movie it was for ages.
Yo… I gotta give it to the starring actress… her 2 most known roles are this & Karen from shameless!!
It’s like they told her “hey, remember HOW unlikeable u were in starving in suburbia?! Yeaaaah, we’d LOVE if u could take that up a notch…
Like… several notches…in fact..”
It wasn't this movie but one like it on, you guessed it Lifetime, that was so similar just a friend dies instead of the brother and I think about it all the time. Lifetime has been making movies like this for years and still haven't learned.
i wanted to ask, will you being do a video on wonyoung? i'm really interesteed in what you would say about her
I never finished this movie because it was so bad. I remember that much
SAME like some movies are bad but this one was just like oh myyy goodness lmao
@bee-tn3ew To The Bone is a really bad movie too
They really should have the movie about Leo instead of Hannah.
The movie should’ve just been about Leo
This movie takes me back omg I used to watch this all the time with the other Lifetime movies on youtube!
we watched it a couple times together on our "proana" community server. it was cringe the whole time ("i thought you were hardcore!" LMAO) but the weight loss montage was fun (=triggering). also id straight up just off myself if i found out my little brother had an ED at the same time as me and died bc of it like wtf writers
i chose to pretend that the movie actually takes place over a long stretch of time to allow for more fucked symptoms to affect the mc's personality. just bc i remember i was 16 and after about like 7 months of starving and throwing up i was straight up insane lmao. k so i didnt cuss my teachers out or sleep with my bff's bf but i was so hard to put up with on an everyday basis. i felt like i had no skin and every little comment affected me deep and raw af when i wasnt almost comatose lol. so no i wasnt acting like a 'proper adult' at all even though i was 16
21:00 i do have to disagree with what you said here. after re-watching the movie and scene, Hannah eventually says during the encounter that "i came here wanting to fight a demon, but now i see you're just as obsessed as i am". it definitely doesn't place the blame on "butterfly ana" in my opinion, though it did show hannah wanting to in the beginning. she ends this scene by saying 'get better soon', after hearing frustrating 'pro ana' rhetoric, and realizing she cannot help "butterfly ana" -- nobody can. she is likely too far gone. there isnt a single *person* to blame for what happened. the people behind these sites are suffering as well. its not some big evil scheme, its just a toxic hub for people to suffer together. tl;dr is i disagree with what you said about this scene and what the movie was attempting to do, as it clearly does not place the blame on "butterfly ana" in the end and honestly makes you feel bad for her.
I also recall Hannah's friend in the beginning scene introducing the site mentioning that it was her cousin's friend who started the site who was butterfly ana -- so she clearly did have a connection to this girl through her cousin, so i find it less "impossible" within this story for them to know where she lives. of course it is not realistic when applied to real life, but within this movie, they did at least leave a little crumb of context in the beginning to make it plausible.
Honestly, after rewatching this movie from a more objective/artistic filmmaking lense--and through acknowledging it is a lifetime movie so it will be cheesy at times-- i think there were a lot of artistic choices/attempts and it was not as bad as this review makes it out to be. Though the timeline was WAY off to properly portray the development of a severe eating disorder. Its not the best, but its definitely not the worst. Within the context of it being a lifetime movie (thats a medium in itself tbh. a medium of cheesy melodrama) it still did some artistic things, and i agree that the actors were not bad in it. If it were awful, I wouldnt have been able to sit through it a second time in my life.
i appreciated the attempt at portraying a ravenous binge, as i know that if this were on a more realistic timeline, I know of people who have eaten out of the trash. They did not understand, however, what this really looks like. I also thought the imagery with the food hidden in the closet was an interesting idea. it is not entirely unrealistic, but is unrealistic given the timeline they had for hannah's disorder. An example of such food hoarding is the scene in Girl, Interrupted with the rotting rotisserie chicken carcasses underneath the girl's bed in the ward. There was also a shot where Hannah walks up to her room, but they have it mirrored so it is like she is walking downwards as her silhouette. tl;dr some good ideas of shots and imagery, they fell short on some level, though.
I will say though, what is it with the most recent anorexia-related movies/media that includes a creepy boy "love interest" and assault scene? In to the bone there was that r*pey boy.... here we have a guy who is proud to be preying on minors... weird, odd. not every movie needs a romance/relationship plotline. if ur tryna do smth relating to a serious topic, honestly, id discourage going that route. "if i had a nickel for every time a movie about eating disorders included a creepy guy side plot, id have two nickels. its not a lot, but its weird that it happened twice."
The only thing good about this movie was Leo, he was a actual realistic character everything else no comment
15:18 HELPPPP
I forgot this movie was a thing
i cant remember much about this movie. the only thing i remember was how terrible it was, and the ending. time to rewatch it after this lol
it already sounds bad by the name of it 😭
I have yet to see an actually good ed-movie. Most of them are so superficial and exaggerated.
when friendship kills is *chef kiss*
this is hilarious 😭
You totally miss the point of the movie, it’s not suppose to look clean and fresh like people with ed like to address, but show the disturbing side of the disorder, is really a DISORDER!!! also, hannah disorder could be different from an article about anorexia because things are different depending on the person, no one experiencing the same problem/disorder in the same way! You make a lot of videos about eating disorders in some woman’s in K-pop but seems not knowing the diferences between them, it’s NEVER the same. Starving in Suburbia cakes on times when tumblr and the internet was truly obsessed with Victoria secrets angels and no one was assuming the plastics surgeries and the restrict diets they had, a lot of things from the movie is a “dramatic” way to show maybe how the things used to work back in those days. Don’t be so hard on that.
Based and thinspo pilled
The fact there’s an option to translate this is absolutely sending me
Movie was not bad at all tf it was good on my eyes
Please a video about Jessica Jung weight loss
That movie was my thinspo not gonna lie lie.
Please post joy video
Do a review of "my skinny sister" 🙏🙏
I hate to use this analogy, but saying that pro-ana "turns you anorexic" is as stupid as saying that child porn "turns people into pedophiles". You can't be "made anorexic" anymore than you can be "made schizophrenic" or "made to have breast cancer".
This Analogys dont make a lot of Sense. You are born as a Pedophile and with being Schizophrenic. And Breast Cancer is litarelly well Cancer. Anorexia is a Mental Disorder you gain through Life you arent born with it and it can be treated , Pedophilia isnt a Sickness and it cant be treated
I don't think that's what they are trying to say. Pro-Ana forums can heavily influence a young mind. Yes, there can be preexisting triggers that could "cause" an eating disorder, but another factor that happens in some cases is that they see the Pro Ana content that is giving tips to "better yourself" or become "beautiful" and think that will solve things. Not every case is like this, but it's also important to remember that not everyone has the same experience with eating disorders.
underage girlfriend is crazy
Can you upload some of ur old videos you only post kpop stuff now
ED related movies or shows are usually bad
Pls do a update on Ryujin
I've noticed a lot of people asking lately so Ryujin is on my list of idols to do next :)
have you ever thought of covering taylor swift's ed story ?