Razer Blade 16 Review - Worth it for 2024?
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- The 2023/2024 Razer Blade 16 gaming laptop is a step in the right direction for Razer. More wattage, slightly thicker, higher performance. Is it worth the tradeoffs though? Is it worth the price? Let's take a look!
Purchase the Blade 16 here: razer.a9yw.net/Blade16
The Blade 16 features either a 4K, 120Hz mini-LED panel with dynamic resolution switch to 1200p/240Hz with 1,000+ nits of brightness OR a 1600p QHD 240Hz OLED panel with around 450 nits of brightness. The model shown here has the RTX 4090 but it is also available with an RTX 4080 or 4070. All have the same CPU which is an Intel i9-13950HX for 2023 or i9-14900HX for 2024. So great specs, but we're going to find out in this video how it handles all of that! And touch on any differences between the 2023 and 2024 models.
We'll also compare it to other laptops like the Zephyrus G14, Lenovo Legion Pro 7i, Zephyrus M16, and ROG Flow X16.
I hope you enjoyed the video! If you did, please like and subscribe to help the channel out, so I can continue making videos like these (and hopefully put them out quicker).
Special thanks to Reddit user u/Devildog2407 for gathering tons of data on the 2024 model (between two different units!) to help me with comparisons.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
2:23 Design
3:41 Keyboard
5:11 Design Continued
6:18 Display - deep dive
12:56 Ports
14:03 Speakers
14:36 Internals
15:17 Software
20:04 Fan Noise
22:45 Thermals
26:05 CPU Performance
27:34 GPU Performance
28:41 Creator Benchmarks
29:16 Battery
30:10 Gaming Benchmarks
38:10 Final Thoughts - Наука та технологія
In Canada this thing costs $5,799.99 💀 My fav thing about Razer laptops is the aesthetics, the performance, and now the upgradeability. Everything else is subpar in my opinion. Speakers, keyboard, trackpad (I'm not a fan of huge ones), battery life, price, etc. My use case is, I need to bring this thing around to last a full day doing productivity without having to charge. Went with a Asus G14 because their AMD implementation some how nets me 10 hours battery, even though my laptop is 2 years old now. Anyways great in-depth review brother! What's next?
What an insane price!! They are out of their minds. But yeah I’m the same way, I prefer my G14 all day. Just chilling and browsing on battery I can also hit 8-10 hours and it’s so nice to have that ability, plus the G14’s compact size is just too nice. But yeah next review… I never finished my Legion Pro 7i one because I got too busy but I might still do it. And then of course I’m definitely working on the 2024 G14 and G16 right now
omg that price...I believe there are plenty of decent laptops with same specs for better price
I picked up the 16: Short version - runs good, games are ok. Negatives are the short battery life (expected) and the heat (this thing gets HOT).
Other HUGE negative - after 400 days it started shutting down due to heat. As its just out of warrantee, Razor wants $99 to ship for estimate, $120 to quate the repair.
Estimate came back as bad MoBo and bad SSD - so they want $3000 to do the repair!! SSD has neve been and issue, so no idea why they say its bad. Going to attempt a repaste myself as I have little to lose at this point.
Got to say, this will be my last Razor and would not recommend anyone to buy based on cost to repair.
How long did you have it for before the issue came up?
That price is what Louis Rossman calls the fuck you price. They give you an insane price so you would say no and instead buy a new one. What they don’t realize is that if you buy a new one it won’t be from them. I still have my 15” advanced early 2020 but I disabled turbo boost and recently change the paste to PTM7950. It still gets very hot and that’s why I rarely use it for gaming now. Built a desktop and also have a Steam Deck. I love razer’s design but I also don’t think my next laptop will be from them.
Also, try sending the laptop to an independent repair shop, because of the heat solder might have gotten weak in somewhere in the motherboard, they might be able to re-solder for an affordable price.
@@kotta8kritter agree. Killer is, i noticed Bust Buy had an add for one at 2995 - which is $5 less than the base repair. Nope not buying it - Razor def lost a customer here. Not that they care. One final note, I reported to them the SSD card they returned was a diff serial number than the one sent.... they never replied to it other than a fu note saying "we understand why you might feel that way".
Nice, didn't know you had this laptop!
I had the 2023 4080 version and a huge issue for me was a weird fan noise when the fans would ramp up or down when idle, a weird humming/whistling noise. A bit like the typical whistle you'd imagine of a bomb dropping from the sky lol, but not as high pitch.
Did you get that noise on yours?
Huh, that’s very interesting! Maybe some type of coil whine? My fans were pretty good. At idle they would always be going though, even on battery but at extremely low rpm’s and not ramping up or down.
undoubtedly the most criminally underrated channel on youtube
no other laptop reviews come even CLOSE to the quality of your videos dude
keep it up man hope the algorithm gives you the attention you deserve one day!
Really appreciate that, thank you 😭
Yeah ikr, no other creators make videos like him mannn
Sir, could you please provide a review comparing the ASUS ROG Strix Scar 16 i9 4080 with the Razer Blade 16 2024 4080, both equipped with similar specifications? I'm eager to know how they stack up against each other in terms of performance, design, and overall value
Hey Josh! You still gonna do that legion pro 7i long term review or you've scrapped it?
Hi Josh can you review the Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i ...2024?🤔🤔🤔
Is it true that in SDR the display looks like an IPS? I’ve heard to get the display looking like a mini led with great black levels it has to be in HDR all the time?
My 6 yr old Razer 15 is in need of an upgrade and this looks awesome. What a fantastic review -- best I've seen for computers. Gonna follow your channel going forward.
Really appreciate that, thanks for watching!
When do you expect the 2024 G14 review to come out?
I'm trying to work on a quicker format so hopefully like 1 month instead of 6 months lol
Josh I have a question. Since you are working on the g16 review now. I was wondering your opinion on the razer blade 16 with the 4080 vs the g16 with the 4090? These are the laptops I am looking at buying and would like to know your opinion cause there is not much of a price difference. Have you noticed a significant boost in performance on the 4090 even though its capped at 115w with dynamic boost?
Check my G16 review! I answer all of this, and don't forget the G16 is actually 125W!
Thank you for the review. I just bought the 2024 Mercury edition with a 4080. So far so good, it gets pretty dang warm on my wrist on turbo mode but other than that I haven’t had any complaints. Still debating if I want to keep it or return it though… it’s my first gaming laptop, I’m used to building PCs and having a desktop, but since I’m in the Air Force now at tech school I don’t want to have to travel with a PC, monitor, etc. Still trying to figure this whole color/brightness settings thing out to make it look crisp in the 1080p mode, it looks a little washed out so if you have any tips or guides let me know. I can also help you out if you need any info on the 2024 version 🤙🏼
Don’t tell me you blew your bmt check on a Razer 💀
@@edster6334 nah brah I financed it through best buy yerrrr
Sounds like probably HDR settings? Run Windows HDR calibration tool
Any chance for CS2 benchmarks?
at this point i dont know if i should just wait for Mini LED or OLED to make the next advnacement in brightness or bloom reduction lmao. i really want an OLED for that perfect contrast but its just not quite bright enough. then Mini LED is also like juuuust too much bloom to want to pick it hands down over the OLED
I just want to point out they have a 2024 4090 i9 14900hx mini led Razer. However, that model only available in 64gb (5600mhz) of ram & it also allows the dimming zones to act as one. Otherwise, you are stuck with the 2023 model. I have the 2023 model BOE and apparently it was fixed with a software update.
I haven’t seen anything about the dimming zone switch on the new models. Do you know where I could find info on that?
I got a 2024 mini led with AOE panel this week and it has the dimming zone switch feature.
@@rubenrodriguez6671 Would you mind sending me a PM on Reddit with a picture of what the dimming zone switch looks like? u/ModrnJosh
picking up the 4080 version this Saturday
The no single-zone dimming option is a dealbreaker for me. I got a BoE panel when I ordered the laptop last year, and the mini-LED effects were extremely noticeable for me. I ended up returning it and getting an ASUS M16.
I’ve heard rumors that the 2024 mini-LED models have a dimming zone switch but I have no idea how to confirm since I can’t find anyone who owns one 🤣 but regardless, if it’s a BOE panel then I might still have those issues you had
How is the 2023 version with the IPS panel, I cant find any reviews of the version with the IPS display, only with the MiniLED or OLED. How would you compere the QHD OLED 240Hz to the IPS QHD 240Hz?
The IPS panel is similar to that of other laptops, very standard. I think it’s the same panel as the 2023 IPS Zephyrus M16 and G16, and same as the 2024 Legion Pro 7i. Not super bright, like 400 nits. Good colors, 100% DCI-P3. But if you watch my video comparing the panel types you’ll see just how much more bright the mini-LED and OLED panels are with a ton more contrast in comparison to IPS. Personally if I were buying a new laptop this year and wanted one that I’d keep a while, I would not be looking at IPS.
@@JoshCravesTech Thanks for the quick response!
Yeah, ik looking at some laptops, I currently already own a razer blade 15 with a RTX2060 and a 144hz IPS display, I may be looking to upgrade. The 15 inch seems to be replaced by the newer 16 inch models. The prices have also gone up I noticed. I'm thinking the RTX4070 is the minimum since the 4060 seems to be the worst in performance per dollar. Now deciding between the IPS and the Oled on the 2024 version. The MiniLED is out of my price range. Seems like I may have to spend a little more on the display!
Hey does the blade 16 suffer from severe thermal throttling? I was think about buying one but everyone seems to be complaining of this problem on Razer laptops.
No, as long as your factory paste was applied correctly, which 95% of the time it is, then it will run just fine without any bad throttling.
Hi, back again watching this video! Thinking of going with the blade 16 with the Rtx2070.
I'm really unsure if I should go with the MiniLED 2023 model, or the Oled 2024 model. I think the Oled will be easier to run on the Rtx4070. I also fear switching resolution is going to become a gimmick as time passes.
On the other side, MiniLED doesn't suffer from burn-in, where's the OLED could suffer from it when being used for a few years. The Oled is also not as bright.
What do you think?
- Going for the 2023 model:
Rtx4070, 32gb ram, MiniLED 4k 120hz/FHD 240 Hz.
--3400 euros
-Going for the 2024 model:
Rtx 4070, 16gb ram, QHD Oled 240Hz.
--3500 Euro's
Thanks again!
For the 4070 I would get the OLED just because it’s QHD. A 4070 is nowhere near enough to push a 4K display. You’d have to have it in like 1200p/1440p all the time to run games smoothly anyway. I think the OLED should be fine as long as you take some basic precautions like auto-hide taskbar, use dark backgrounds on shuffle, turn screensaver on, etc.
@@JoshCravesTech Hi! I found a 2e hand 2023 model with the MINI-LED, a 4090, 2TB and 32gb ram for the same price as the new OLED model with a 4070, 1Tb and 16gb of ram. Regarding the reported display issues of the Mini-LED, are there any things I should look for? First thing I'm going to do is look up if it has the BOE or AUO display. AUO should be the ''good'' display. If it is the BOE, do I need to test the backlight dimming feature? Thanks!
The Lenovo Legion 9i would be the competitor for the Blade 16, not the Legion 7i. The 9i has a 3.2k mini LED, is thinner, has an all metal and carbon fiber build, glass trackpad, etc.
Hey josh i am planning to buy this laptop with 4080 configuration and i9 14900hx
So i wanted to ask will it be enough for hard-core programming, and playing games at Maxed setting with raytracing maybe
And main thing is i don't care about less battery life like i can keep it plugged it
So is it a good choice?
I see that the g16 is having slower performance because of their new ultra chips
Loved your review man keep it up
Yeah then I’d probably get the Blade in your scenario! Especially if it’s going to be plugged in all the time
Pick up a renewed Blade from Amazon which has a 3 month warranty. It's practically new and comes with the original packaging, there's enough time to get a return/refund if there are immediate issues propping up, and the savings are pretty great (~30%). The sticker price is far too exorbitant for me to buy it brand new, unless there's a rare discount going on.
I got a early 2019 2070MQ/8750H Blade 15 Advanced in mid-2019 for $1800 when the 9750H model just replaced it for $2600. It's still with me 5 years later (with no major issues and no swollen batteries), and I can still play games on it (I keep my GPU a little overclocked during gaming, for a ~7400 Time Spy Graphics score). Bear in mind I can clean my laptop fans, repaste and replace my battery, reinstall windows etc. so I'm more than down to fix any issues due to which someone may have returned a laptop or something, and service the laptop myself if need be.
That sounds like a steal!
I have the exact same configuration. Really impressive machine. Wanted to exchange it with the Asus G16 OLED 4090 because of OLED, but it turns out that the OLED display was not as good as I thought. I seemed to have forgotten how good the MiniLED display on the Blade is. So I instantly returned the G16 and wil stay with Razer :) The sharpness, brightness and colors are just unmatched.
Because the mini led is 4k. It's one of the few 4k laptops. Other laptops marketed as 4k are actually 3.2k, or 3.5k
great video dude, you make this laptop look killer. I do suggest EQing the high-end of your voice a little lower in future:P !!
Thank you! And noted on the EQ!
I have this in Mercury, because it's actually cheaper to get the Mercury Mini LED one than the black Mini LED one and I don't understand why.
Just checked the Razer site, it's actually 2200 USD LESS to get it in Mercury with Mini LED than Black with Mini LED. Mercury is 3300 USD and Black is 5500 USD, assuming you get the lowest RAM config which you definitely should because they overcharge to hell and back for the RAM and it'll be WAY cheaper for you to upgrade the RAM yourself.
I have the 4090 2024oled model. I really like it but it does not run at 175w. It's more like 150 max. I've had a couple other laptops and out of all the 4090 units this one performs the worst out of all of them. I still like it the best though because of the screen and fan noise.
The new G14 with rtx4060 is on sale at BestBuy for 1349$ 😮
Can't wait for you review!
Please make a video guide to put liquid metal in blade 16 ❤
Yeah I have tons of video of me doing the whole thing, might slap something together just to have on here
As a content creator I had difficult time getting the colors profile (ICC) to work, I tried so many! At the same time, the SSDs are overheated when connecting dual 4K monitors! I forgot to mention, mine is RB16 i9 4090 2023 model... Maybe it's not the right laptop for content creator and I made a mistake buying it! Any idea how to set it up right for content creation! Thanks
The SSD’s should not be overheating at all, no matter what you have hooked up. If they are truly overheating to the point of bad throttling then that may be a defect with the SSD. Also, I’m not sure what you mean with the ICC profiles. Out of the box, it only has one ICC profile installed called like “Razer” or “Blade” and it’s there in Synapse. You should never have to change this. In a color managed program like Lightroom for example, it should show accurate colors.
I got a base 4090 for $3800 and upgraded nvme and ram for 500 bucks
Now have 8tb of storage and 96gb of ram
Did you uograde the ram and nvme yourself?
@@ronervineyea took about 5 minutes
Be sure to get one sided nvmes if ur using 2 max ram is 96gb if u were to do this with razer u wud spend 2k more
In the Red Dead Redemption 2 test, is that with all settings on ultra? I get comparable results with Cyberpunk but my RDR2 plays at 50fps which is half of what you got.
DirectX12 enabled and favor quality slider set all the way to the right are the only two settings I changed
I have been deciding between the asus m16 23 and the flow x16, and this year the g16 dropped and i thought i might finally pull the trigger on that but alter found out that the g16 lineup uses an oled panel, which im very hesitant about. My work flow is in between 3-4 hour or some days 7- 9 hours at 60-70% brightness in between, sometimes dialing it down to 20-30% if i work in the dark. My previous laptop (before it was stolen) lasted me 3.4 years, and it had a quite shitty ips display but nevertheless even that had ghosting (after a 3-4 hour session in ableton live, which has a bright gui) that lasted minutes after closing the program.
So even after 5 months of research and reviews im still very much undecided on what to pick, any suggestions?
Yeah, so multiple hours at high brightness with lots of static elements on the screen will accelerate the risk of burn-in. However, it does seem that the risk of burn-in has gotten lower with newer panels and newer technology. I think the M16 or X16 would still be an excellent choice if you want super bright panels with great contrast. The M16 would give more GPU power (granted you go for the 4080/4090 model), and the X16 would give you a nice glossy touchscreen and quieter fans. All of them will handle Ableton smooth as butter.
@@JoshCravesTech thank you so much brother, really love your indepth content and opinions on such things. Ive been trying to get my hands on the x16 but it has been out of stock for a long time and i dont think its coming back anytime soon.
Will you review the new g16 anytime soon, if not do you recommend the g16 for this kind of workflow?
@@sami_got_vibes It's hard to recommend one over the other tbh, they're both so similar but different. The G16 is more like a macbook for sure, with awesome speakers, aluminum build, thin lid, super thin overall. It can have awesome performance out of the 4080/4090 but it can get loud! The Flow is a nice, quieter machine with that touchscreen and flip lid and way more brightness from the display. It's such a hard choice as to which one is better, lol. But yes I will have a review for the G16! It's in the works!
@@JoshCravesTech thank you so much on your input brother. Id definitely wait on that g16 review of yours before any purchases.
Hey Josh. Which would you recommend? The g16 2024 4080 or the g14 2023 4080. Which is better performance and battery wise and as an overall package?
That’s a tough one. They get about the same battery life, unless it’s the mini-LED G14 then that one does get a little worse battery life than the G16 but not by too much. They will be basically identical as far as performance. The OLED display, speakers, and chassis are extremely amazing on the G16. The portability and weight is awesome on the G14 though, so I’d probably pick the G16 personally unless the portability was standing out to you.
Went ahead and ordered a g16. Thank you!
@@ultimatekratos14 congrats! It’s a beautiful laptop!
For 39/34.6, respectively, the Legion Pro 7i with the 4090 seems like a strong contender for silent/balanced mode performance unless the CPU is super gimped or something. I always wonder if 4090 laptops have a better noise-to-performance ratio than the same laptop with a 4080. I've always only owned 4080 machines since I game exclusively on quiet or balanced. I always thought a laptop with a 4090 would be lost on me since I game exclusively in quiet or balanced mode, but maybe that's not always the case.
Finished the video. The practical gaming performance with the Legion in silent mode told a much different story. The balanced mode in the Legion holds its own though. Not as capable as the blade with a bit less fan noise. I strongly dislike the look of the Legion so it's not an option for me regardless.
Yeah, Lenovo was on to something with the Legion 9, but they kinda dropped the ball… if they made a more sleek gaming laptop similar to a Zephyrus or Blade then I’d be really intrigued. The Pro 7i has its use cases though. But yeah the Blade’s silent and balanced modes are insane
@@JoshCravesTech It was a great concept until it looked to be built out of a slap of Home Depot granite you'd see in the clearance isle. I'd rather have a standard Legion at that point.
@@furnitureandbedding776 Literally!! Lol
Thank you for the comparison. Having tried several flagships including the 2024 Razer Blade 16 OLED, I have mixed feelings about it. The OLED screen is great, except for the grainy effect on dark gray backgrounds, though it did get better with use. The improved thermal system in the 2024 model keeps it quieter and cooler to the touch. That said, the quality control is problematic as ever. I've tried two of them and both have stuttering issues on Advanced Optimus, trackpad randomly stops responding, and even the keyboard and trackpad are slightly misaligned. The average consumer would probably never notice, but for a $4,000 laptop, these are unacceptable issues.
The best laptop I've ever used is the Asus Zenbook Pro 16X. While the touchscreen matrix has a slight screen door effect on white backgrounds. everything else about that laptop is perfect. The haptic touchpad is awesome, the gorilla glass screen assembly looks and feels premium, battery life is better than any gaming laptop I've tested, and the advanced cooling system is unmatched. Asus has been very innovative with their use of OLED, MiniLED, and CNC aluminum chassis. Once Intel switches to 2nm chips, cooling and battery life hopefully will greatly improve. Razer needs to step up their quality control to compete with Asus.
Yeah I've heard some horror stories. I had a 2020 Blade 15 with some qc issues, but all the ones I've bought since I've been lucky have been great. I agree with you on the Zenbook. I kinda regret selling it, because it really was the best 16" laptop I think I've ever used. The Zephyrus G16 is also incredible too. To me, Razer is falling behind laptops like these. Asus is innovating faster than Razer can keep up with. But you'd think with the arm and leg that Razer is charging, that they could probably afford a nice little design change every year, lol.
I’m planning to get a new laptop soon either a 16 inch or 18 inch which would you recommend more Razer or Alienware I’m a vtuber on Twitch and UA-cam and soon Facebook
I’d recommend Razer over Alienware. Just less headaches with software and a much better display, and better out-of-the-box tuning
Is the g14 with 6800hs and 6800s still a good laptop and worth buying in 2024?
4060 would be much better, 6800s like 3060
This is the best review for this laptop, hands down. Mine is arriving in the mail today.
Congrats!!
Great review
Thank you!!
can you do a review of the zephyrus g16 also that price is insane
That review is on its way very soon!!
Nobody ever talks about how thick Razers are in person, or at least compared to the new G14 and G15, especially. Like they're a third heavier nearly and probably that much thicker, too.
Yep, exactly! While it isn’t super thick in comparison to a Legion or MSI, it is much thicker than any Zephyrus laptop.
I got the 4070 version with the mini-LED panel, and I can't figure out how to make the display look normal. In HDR, the picture looks really explosive bright, and in SDR it just looks "off." What's the best settings to have this thing on?
Is it the BOE panel? If so then that’s just how that panel is unfortunately. It has a bit of a blooming issue if that’s what you’re referring to.
@@JoshCravesTech I checked, and it's the AOU. Maybe it's just me lol. I did the Windows HDR calibration, but maybe I should have left it on the Blade color profile settings? That option seems to have gone away.
Waiting for the Zephyrus G16 2024 review 👀
Will u review any laptops with 2000 dimming zones ?
The only ones that have it are all the giant boys. Waiting for a slimmer laptop to have that display or maybe if I find a Scar 16 for super cheap. I have heard that the dimming zones are GREATLY improved on the 2000-zone models. Everyone I’ve talked to who owns one has said it’s almost impossible to spot the blooming now
@@JoshCravesTech awesome good to know
Trying to decide between Flow X16 2023 and G16 2024. Please help. How close are the speakers in quality? Thank you
Not even close in speaker quality. The G16 2024 and G14 2024 are the best speakers I’ve ever heard on any laptop. They sound like a good Bluetooth speaker, while the Flow X16 would be more like just a good phone speaker in comparison. The Flow’s mini-LED gets MUCH brighter though, and it’s a 2-in-1 touchscreen laptop with much quieter fans. But the performance will be a bit behind compared to the 4080/4080 G16. The G16 is certainly more premium but I’ll always love the Flow. Just depends a bit on your use case and what you prefer.
@@JoshCravesTech Thank you so much😇
@@jedi55 I debated going back and forth quite a bit as well, and while I'm quite happy having settled on the Flow X16, you cannot go wrong with a G14 or G16 either. Personally, as someone who loves the versatility of productivity, gaming, and every day- with a beautiful display and 2in1, the Flow was a great pick. Unsure what they're going for now, but try and grab one on sale if you decide to go that route!
Josh, your test results here make me regret returning my 2023 G14 4090… I completely didn’t need it but got it as an excellent open box for only $2500 … argh! Those Silent Mode results are bananas.
@@SeanFitzgerald123 $2500 is a steal for that one! It’s still a unicorn of a laptop. Nothing else gives you that much power in that small of a size with actual good battery life too.
Will they make a razerblade with 5080-5090 with 16 or 18inch display with thunderbolt 5 next yr with power gpu wattage to like 200-225?
@@danny-wv5yb there will definitely be 5080/5090 models but we don’t know the wattage yet. And they’ll probably have thunderbolt 5 too.
I love this video! ❤
Such a good review! Best on this laptop on the site
Thank you for watching! Glad you found it informative
Struggling with whether or not to keep a 2023 blade 16 with the boe panel. Such a great display yet ridiculous my mouse and other objects turn grey on dark backgrounds on such an expensive laptop. Cant understand why razor can't or won't work to make single zone led an option that actually functions for us?? Am i missing something? People are returning, asking for refunds, exchanges etc they added an ineffective toggle that did nothing then took it away from what I've heard. Trying to read in between the lines
Yeah I have no idea what they’re thinking at Razer with mini-LED. Seems like they may have not fully understood what they were implementing when they made that decision. Wish there was a way to confirm an AOU panel, or they should’ve just switched to AOU entirely
@JoshCravesTech in the video you said the aou panel was much more reliable and had a solid dimming option. Somehow i reversed in my mind and thought you said boe originally 🤦♂️ Does aou panel not suffer from small white objects appearing grey on dark backgrounds? That's really what I dislike about my current panel
@@armor611suit I believe so! To me the AOU panel is the best mini-LED panel I’ve ever used. It is very hard to notice the dimming. It’s not 100% perfect, but it’s better than anything else. I think the only ones that would beat it now would be the new 2000-zone ones on the Asus Scar 16
I'm sorry for bothering but..
I'm buying this evening or tomorrow one gaming laptop between the HP Omen 16 (2021) and the Acer Predator Helios Neo 16:
.Hp Omen 16 2021:
i7 11800h, 3070 maxq, 16gb ddr4, 1Tb, fhd 16:9 1080p
price: 1000€
.Acer Predator Helios Neo 16:
i9 13900hx, 4060, 16gb ddr5, 1Tb, qhd 16:10 1600p
price: 1600€
.Is Neo16 far better for gaming?
.Is Neo16 more powerful cpu really useful for gaming?
.Are 500 vs 300 nits important for a good visual experience?
.Does the Neo 16 worth spending 600€/$ more?
Please and thanks
That’s a tough one. $600 is a lot more money and the performance will be about the same on the GPU. The CPU is much better on the Helios, but that doesn’t matter too much in games. The display is much better on the Helios too, but FHD isn’t necessarily bad. Your games will run at much higher frame rates at FHD than they would at QHD at least. Are those your only options in that price range?
@@JoshCravesTech Thank you for the answer.
Don't want to bother.. I'm just so confused and I don't want to throw away my money.
They are my options because I strongly want an internal sd card reader because of my previous organization and habit with memory. New gaming pc doesn't tend to have one.
Thing is.. I read the tgp of the hp is bad.. someone wrote hp does have heat problems.. someone wrote the Acer got stutters problems..
I don't want to make the wrong choice but I don't have the experience to make a good one.
Reading things is one thing, experiencing things is all another, because you don't have the measures.
I want a bright display and the Acer is brighter.. but I really don't know if 300 nits as the hp is low or not because my old pc doesn't have nits in specs.
Josh, I want something like a Flow X16 but with the zephyrus 2024 package/weight. Does such a thing exist? 3060 or 3070 mobile performance would be good enough in terms of the gpu. I am waiting to see if the Flow X16 2024 is lighter and hopefully fits the bill. Idk if I'm missing anything but the zephyrus g14 seems perfect to me except no touchscreen. Right now using a flowx16 2022 with a 3060 in it.
Nothing like that exists :( I’d say the closest thing is the Zenbook Pro 16X OLED. Maybe in 2025 they’ll give us a new, upgraded Flow since they didn’t do anything for 2024
@@JoshCravesTech Gotcha. Another related question, do you think the zephyrus g14 has a similar keyboard to the flow x16? I used a 2021 Zephyrus G15 and that was my favorite keyboard on a laptop ever, and my 2022 Flow X16 is basically comparable to that one. I might just go with the 2024 zephyrus g14 because I don't see myself needing touchscreen after I finish college, and if so, I would definetly make the switch if the keyboard feels similar. Thanks for what you do, hope to keep up with the videos!
@@pf2611 yes it is VERY similar! Types exactly the same, only difference being slightly larger keycaps but it feels like an improvement, I find my self making fewer mistakes with those keycaps
Good review been watching since the 2022 m16 😊 I love razer laptops but the price always throws me away and that’s why I usually go for Asus Strix laptops
I agree, I love playing with them but then I think about how hurt my credit is gonna be if I keep it lol
Buy now or wait till 2025 laptops? No rush to buy but will at some point.
in February we should see the 5000 series laptops.. so up to you if you can wait that long.
Thank you for your great videos
Plz review apple product too... like m3 pro 16 inch macbook pro
Is it Cyberpunk 2.1 phantom liberty or what??
Microcenter has this for $3k. This or Asus g16 with 4080 or 4090? What would Josh do????
I’d still pick the G16 personally. G16 has amazing battery life, it’s MacBook-like in how thin and light it is, and the performance is still awesome. Also you get G-Helper, which blows Synapse away in how much you can customize with your fans and temperatures.
@@JoshCravesTechgood deal thanks for the advice !
What's your opinion on Razor warranty, customer service, and RMA though man? Wanna buy a beautiful high performance premium laptop, but hear so many horror stories of uncaring service and repair prices equal to the cost of the machine. Do you recommend buying these through a third party seller, or buying a third party warranty to cover the laptop? Seems like you know the ins and outs of your devices more than other reviewers and hope you have some insight on this. Thanks
This goes for EVERY laptop manufacturer - do your best to buy through third party sellers such as Best Buy or Micro Center in the U.S. and get your warranty through them or some other third party if possible. RMA/customer service for mostly every manufacturer is very hit or miss. It’s not just Razer.
Gotcha thanks man
If the same price, which would you choose, Raser Blade 16 oled 4080 2024 or asus zeph g16 4080 2024??
In Europe they are currently the same price
g16 for sure, my review will be out soon if you can wait and I give a few comparisons. The Blade definitely wins in fps but the G16 wins in everything else - portability, battery life, ease of use, software, speakers, keyboard, etc.
@JoshCravesTech what about palm rest heat and fan noise to get 115watt is razer not quieter fans on balanced compared to performance on the g16? Screen wobble?
I'm was ust about to buy a razer 16 4080 2hen I saw your post the razer is only 100 euro more than a g16 4080 (although is has an extra 1tb hd) but the g16 4080has better speakers lighter, longer battery, keyboard, less reflective screen, extra charger and I'm.thinking I can get good performance with ghelper
@@cutthat4643 I’d say the palm rest is a bit cooler on the G16. Both have similar fan noise on their Balanced modes. The Blade 16 is just a tiny bit quieter and both can achieve nearly the same performance in this mode plus you have more control over the G16 using g-helper. So you can let it run a little warmer if you want for more performance. Or raise the fans a bit more. The Blade just really surpasses it in Turbo. Outside of that they’re pretty close
just under 400 days .. it was a month out of warranty
OLED hands down. As much as I love Lonovo laptops. Them still not jumping hard on OLEDs this year makes me want to buy a Asus or Razer labtop instead.
This is very true. In 2021, Lenovo was ahead of everyone in the display department, and now they've been using the same panels for 3 years straight and they're starting to fall behind.
Another video from the GOAT
"It can't handle it on battery power", meanwhile the battery TimeSpy score is higher than my max power 8750H - 2060M laptop which does most things pretty well, like play Apex on 1080p Low 144fps. Man, please highlight that you're making that statement with respect to really high standards haha
Lol, true. I mean that with respect to its normal power. Like the dropoff is a very high percentage of its max power compared to other laptops. But yes, compared to laptops of the past few years some people might not find that to be too bad!
Is it even "bigger" than the blade 15 though? From 15.6 inch 16:9 screen to 16 inch 16:10 I bet it's about the same.
They’re about the same width, but the Blade 16 is definitely bigger in length and thickness, and about a pound heavier. I’d say worth it for the extra performance though.
Bro we are waiting for zephyrus g16 review😅
It happened 😎 The new review 😎
Does Razer Synapse still require signing in?
Not that I would buy anything Razer again, burned too many times to buy anything else from them. For free maybe, but yeah.
Good video, thank you for sharing.
I believe so, but I’m not sure about the new version!
@@JoshCravesTech What a shame. Thank you.
It is very expensive (4900EUR in Spain for the 4090, 2.5K OLED, 32GB RAM and 2TB SSD version), even more than the MSI Titan 18hx which is considered the most powerful gaming laptop right now and has better specs on paper (4K 120hz display, 64GB RAM, Gen 5 SSD compatibility, mechanical keyboard, better performance etc). However, the aesthetics of the Razer are by far the best of any Windows laptop out there, I actually like it even more than MacBook. I don't like overwhelming gamer aesthetics on laptops. The only gaming laptop with similar specs that competes with it in terms of screen and portability is the Asus G16 that has soldered RAM and inferior performance.
Yeah, the price is absolutely insane. But it is beautiful! I think the G16 is a good contender if you want much better portability and battery life. The G16 closed is thinner than just the body of the Blade without the lid. The bezels, speakers, and webcam/mic are all better on the G16 as well. But the Blade’s performance is definitely a good bit higher so that’s the tradeoff for sure.
@@JoshCravesTech My main problem with the G16 is soldered RAM. If the RAM fails you have to throw away the entire laptop, and you have to settle for a certain capacity without being able to upgrade if you need more. Sadly the smaller footprint comes at the expense of a lower powered CPU (Core Ultra 9 vs full powered 14900HX), lower powered GPU (175W vs 115W) and the soldered RAM. The R23 multi core score of the Blade is 90% higher than that of the G16 with the same specs.
Sadly that's how it is with gaming laptops, you always have to make a compromise. It's either size/battery life or performance. You can't have both
@@barcafan94 yeah although soldered ram has an extremely low failure rate. I’m personally okay with the other stuff. My G16 scores about 18k graphics in Time Spy and 20k in Cinebench R23. Overall not too bad for me as I’d much rather have the portability and battery life, but I do sometimes miss how easily the Blade could handle anything you throw at it. Even gaming in Silent mode did extremely well
So What would you pick say between razer blade 18 300hz qhd plus mini led 2k dimming zones for its power or vs battery g16 max 4090 32gb 2tb . What trade off is more valuable the power in blade 18 or battery in g16 w tht 4090 capped a little kick of 4090 n better speakers , i think
@@theone2678 I’d pick the G16 for battery life and portability. Pick the Blade 18 if it’s going to be on a desk plugged in 99% of the time
nice laptop, from mr robot right?
Now that the G16 is out hoping razer will drop their prices.
Keyboard is meh
Speakers not great
And it thermal throttles like crazy so some lesser spec cheaper laptops are outperforming this which is crazy!
Yeah the thermal paste application really matters on the Blade and I’ve seen it perform poorly due to that for some people. If you get one with a great paste job, then it shouldn’t throttle too bad. But for the price? Nahhhh, they need better speakers, a glass/flat bezel, better battery life, etc. if they want to truly compete
At this price range, not having a ethernet port, on a "Gaming" laptop is simply insane to me! I mean geez, a $500 Acer Chromebook has a ethernet port, for GeForce Now use. I just can't seem to wrap my head around this. $4000+ no ethernet, really Razer.
Usually that’s a matter of thickness. They’d rather you use an adapter. It’s becoming more rare every year with all laptops unfortunately.
I saved up $3000 I should have the rest by October. If I sacrifice my habits, it will be sooner.
It’s a dope laptop, I wouldn’t blame you!
@JoshCravesTech I just hope it's a discount around the time I get one, but with my luck it will be a $1000 cheaper a month after purchasing.
@@SeldomSeen-if4pq hate when that happens, but yeah they’ve been doing sales sort of frequently so hopefully you land it cheaper!
razer blade laptops are pretty premium but are also highly overpriced af in terms of what it gives, even some of the newer macbook pros dont cost this much like these lmao
Yeah the price has to change if Razer wants to stay competitive, it’s getting ridiculous!
The only thing holding me back from buying Razer is the logo
They really need to change the logo on the lid, I agree. To me it’s just too gamery. A more subtle logo would look so much better. And one that can be more than just green.
Thank you for your response, I enjoy watching your reviews. Which laptop is next?
@@toverkoekoek0732 Next is hopefully the new G16 and G14 but we'll see!
@@JoshCravesTech Would love to see either a subtle etched option like the Mercury White, or even the word RAZER.
@@TechGuyB agreed!
It looks like a gaming macbook pro
if a 13” ipad can fit 2500 dimming zones than these 16” laptops can manage more than 1000…
They definitely can for sure. Asus is already doing it now. The 2024 Scar laptops all have 2,000+ dimming zones! Not many people have them yet but from what I’ve seen so far people are saying that the blooming is basically gone and they look incredible.
never worth the costs dude... is just the cnc aluminum anodized casing ... that's all premium u paid for...
Not very good laptops to be honest. Their synapse caused so many lock ups with win 11 on my Razer blade, keys break in normal use, and I am not a heavy user. Razer blade support is set up to ask so many questions you just give up. Touch pad is no useable so sensitive and then not at all, so to sensitive then to hard, you just keep doing things you don't want to do. HP is so much better, actually every other laptop I have had in the last 10 years is better, so you just can't use it. I had to resort to a mouse. When I got one of my staff to get hold of Razer support he could afford that amount of time -- I GET "WE DON'T SEND OUT PARTS "- SO I HAVE TO BUY SPARES ON EBAY FOR THIS RUBBISH KEYBOARD - and the reviews said it was a great PC, you just can't believe what you see/read
4k is the most useless thing on a laptop for me
Yeah some people swear by it. But outside of text looking slightly sharper, I’m not a big fan. Would rather have more fps
After owning three Razer Blades, I will not buy another for a few reasons. 1. Super premium price for compact but poor build quality (all three of my blades died with two years - eg battery swelling, camera cable breaking) and 2. Their support is horrific - customer last. You will not get good support when things do die. Do yourself a favor and buy a Lenovo Legion slim or an Asus or MSI unit.
Zephyrus G16 is better and cheaper.
G16 is limited to only 115 watts GPU compared to 175 watts on the Razer
No windows laptop is worth it, MacBook wins every time. Cry about it
Razer = NEVER worth it.