I like to think that the sleepers met here, and Saul just shows up because this is where he hides his endless supply of booze. He just plays along so nobody will know where his stash is.
@@dwnkaomwn3953 My personal view, is the decision to make him a Cylon, essentially ruined the final season of Battlestar. That decision destroyed the entire coherent narrative of the final season. It spread like a cancer & wrecked every other storyline connected to it. The explanation for how Colonel Tigh ended up being a Cylon, required the most absurd mental gymnastics imaginable. Cavill was manipulating all the other Cylons & was responsible for hiding the final five from the others. We know Adama knew Saul Tigh for over 30 years. So Colonel Tigh had to be around a few years before he met Adama. Let's say he was put in 5 years after the first war. Then Cavill puts Ellen in, what 2-5-10 years after that. Then he puts Anders, Tory & Tyrol in decades later. Why would he stagger their deployments into the colonies? He literally kept some of them boxed for decades. It makes no sense. Gaeta should've taken the place of Colonel Tigh & Starbuck should've taken the place of Ellen.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eqI know right. I am not even remotely religious and I don't really believe in god but I still think this is one of the greatest sci-fi shows ever. I think the main point of the show was that all walks of life, from all classes, from different religions(monotheism, polytheism, agnostic, atheist) all have to get along and do what's necessary for our survival. Besides it's a made up story in, made up universe, with made up religions, just suspend disbelief and enjoy it. I love this series.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eqI think there will eventually be a remake, I know quite a few people who are fanatical about that show. I tried to watch it but the super cheesy effects and make-up kind of turned me off but I honestly never gave it a chance. I imagine if it was made 10 years later or had a bigger budget it would be more popular. I'm sure the story must be great cause the people who are into it, are really big into it.
In a later episode, Adama fell apart after Tigh told him he was a cylon. Imagine being told that your best friend that you knew the majority of your military career was a cylon.
RDM said in an interview later that they chose the 5 randomly out of a hat, which is maybe why the identities of the 5 are so weak as a plot element, in terms of importance
@@brianibbotson6492 If he actually said that, he was joking. He's said it wasn't totally random. They're all important figures or connected to same. Tigh is connected to Adama, Tory to Roslin and Anders to Starbuck. Tyrol is the chief of the deck. Then they thought it would be interesting for two of the five to be a couple, specifically a dysfunctional couple, so it was Saul and Ellen.
I could have seen Sam and Tory being Cylons in the regular sense (and both had been speculated to be Cylons before this), but Tyrol, Saul and Ellen only made sense with the Five being unique.
Bear McCreary's version of "All Along The Watch Tower" is STILL my favorite of all time! Also all "The Final Five's" positions taken on New Caprica in opposition to what was going on is that much more intense and meaningful!
I hate it that they didn't include one of Tigh's best lines in the show. "My name is Saul Tigh. I'm an officer in the Colonial Fleet. Whatever else I am, whatever else it means, that's the man I want to be. And if I die today, that's the man I'll be." Just make the video slightly longer guys
I must admit the page is pretty bold to have not disabled comments here at this point... I also thought at least the first few times a couple of the final five being who they were was shocking and cool.
Not exactly though, saul didnt know ellen was cylon till the last moment. At this scene he 's just shocked because he killed ellen for the reasons she helped cylons. Him being cylon makes her death shocking to him.
@@PathsUnwritten Perhaps and who haven't watched the show and is afraid off spoilers,should avoid BSG vids,IF not completely,than at the very least as much as possible.
I watched this show for the first time like 2 years ago I had no idea what to expect from it and it ended up being one of my favourite shows of all time. I remember the first time I watched this episode, I don’t know if I’ve ever been more shocked at a reveal in a show. One of the best written shows I’ve ever watched
much debated, for me personally this is one of the absolute highlights of the series. first, this wonderful sequence: 1. tigh against the wall "its in the ship!? its in the frakkin ship!" - priceless 2. that timing pull towards galen, the noise turning into a surreal moment of silence with him mumbling "there must be some kind of way out of here" - a phrase just vague enough to not make the alarm bell ring 3. cut to tigh hearing "said the joker to the thief?" - instant WTF 4. cue the remaining two sentences while McCreary goes completely nuts with some of his best and most creative and outlandish music work, ending in the reveal, and reaffirming the 4th wall breaking use of watchtower to the point where they mumble the melody, basically telling the viewer "yes, we're going all in with this". so there you sit, thinking "this is a stunt corner they have written themselves into that they will never find their way out of again". and then they find the one logical exit that is saved for the late moments of the last episode, turning the timing on its head by revealing that this isnt a show that plays in the distant future, but the distant past, and watchtower is basically part of humanities genetic memory. call it over the top, call it make-it-up-as-you-go, i dont care. its risky, its bold, and it gets solved in a logically coherent way that you couldnt see coming from a mile away, like so many of todays supposedly WTF "surprise" plot twists, which are usually never even nearly as bold and outrageous, and are thrown at you for shock value ASAP, thereby usually not standing on that amount of context and canon. so, yeah, frak the haters. this is awesome.
To me, BSG didn't go off the rails until the very end. Literally the last ten minutes when Lee Adama just unilaterally decides to destroy what is left of Colonial civilization and require the remnants of his people to live in squalor and starvation.
That really did not make sense. They've been living aboard ships for possibly years after losing their homes, some were living on a different planet practically enslaved for a while and then he expects them to all be able to fend for themselves, build fucking mud huts and become hunter gathers? After being so reliant on technology? Very strange move, and they could've used the ships to live in and salvage until they can make their own civilisation.
@@Iceman-135 The problem with retaining their technology is that the world the survivors of the twelve colonies eventually settle on is our world. The tech has to be got rid of somehow, otherwise it would pollute the historical timeline. The knowledge of what they had should give the settlers some kind of helping hand in establishing themselves here, even if as the centuries pass, that knowledge itself fades as the colonials are subsumed in the native populations of earth (some seeded populations may even fail and die out) before re-emerging in a new form in our human history. Getting rid of the baggage of their past would be the only chance that the descendants of the colonials would take another path rather than simply repeat the cycle over again. Human nature being what it is though, our collective knowledge continues to outstrip our wisdom - all this has happened before.....
Miss you guys on screen. Wish it went for another 4 seasons. Loved every moment and even got my wife hooked on it. Cheers for the years of enjoyment. xoxo
Eh I feel the show could have gotten away with one more season at most before becoming stale, but that’s only if they did a few more episodes with the fleet running out of supplies.
I watched this episode a few days after it aired and I was lucky that I'd misread somewhere that the big spoiler was that a Bob Dylan song was going to appear, which I interpreted was just going to be a homage to the final scene of the original Galactica series where the moon landing shows up. It was great having that expectation thrown out the window!
Being a Dylan (and Hendrix) fan, back when I first saw this years ago, it literally gave me vertigo when Tigh said the second line and it clicked. I get why people hate it, I get why people love it, the last season really spiraled and I'm not a big fan of it but this scene where the song clicks for all of them, how it's built up and directed and how great their version of the song is, still gives me chills, along with Kara's piano scene. I can forgive a lot for good music.
Did people hate it? I thought it was great. The song being from our world ties in perfectly with the origin of the Final Five. Ancient machines with severe selective Alzheimer’s
It would be a universally loved thing if they got someone cool to make a unique song for the show that rocked and could be a motif going into the final season Instead it’s a bizarre intrusion of real life pop culture that makes absolutely no fucking sense at the time and makes even less sense after the finale
I think it means that, whether it's genetic memory or "God," human civilization repeats the cycle no matter what. That's why the ending was showing modern robotics. So, this song existed within us, it just took a while to manifest itself to us.
3:23 what a surreal moment. Four random people in a room, singing the same imaginary song... Saul's over here having an out of body experience and snappin back to reality
Imagine if the cylon song was voodoo child instead of all along the watchtower.. they would of all been rocking out in that room together instead of having an existential crisis...
All too often I find watchmojo.com to be a bunch of Clueless blowhards. Everyone of course is entitled to their own opinions on what is or isn't good a certain TV show but they all too often act as if their opinion is the only possible valid opinion and I gave up on watching most of their stuff a long time ago.
Omg I’ll never forget how epic this was. I never realized how Saul just foreshadowed the last Cylon 🤙🏻 The foreshadowing is huge when Saul asks, “Where’s Ellen?” That voice...this was during the Iraq War, my friends that were in the military got me into this and we used to all watch together on Ninja Video 🤙🏻
I love the "this was during the Iraq War" like the war ever ended... Did your friends in the military realize they were doing to Iraq the same thing the Cylons were doing to New Caprica?
Vuoto Pneumatico Non Non No. When I got into 9/11 Truth, End the Fed and Antiwar protesting they disowned me and kicked me out of the house. I’ve been alone ever since. One of them said, “How do I know his father didn’t commit suicide because of this info..” That’s when I started to get real pissed at the NWO...RIP mister Kreisher, Semper fi 😢
This was absolutely epic, but in the end the 'final five' story went nowhere. That reveal was like a spiritual awakening! But then what happened at the end with the final five?! nothing! They made the other cyclons... big deal. Reminds me of Game of Thrones, with the whole 'three eyed raven' nonsense that went nowhere in the end.
I think Bob once said something along the lines of there always having been 'Bob Dylan' and that he was perhaps the one best suited to play the role. So, Bob must be God!! 😎
Funny...I just happened to watch this series and came across this incredible scene some 10 months or so ago... I was in a soul shock...Maddening, awakening..Probably no one would understand what i'm talking here.. In a way what happened to those cylons right here, happened to me in a span of months, every day.. I was mind blown watching this.. It feels so strange, "that switch" going on... Coming back to the series..I've never watched any scene in any series that was that much impactful. After all those episodes, seasons..This comes. It is beyond words. This scene and music alone accompanied by the final moments of this series is unparallelled.. Just epic..
For those of us who watched the show from the very beginning, this was the scene that destroyed the show. None of these characters were originally intended to be the Final Five, and several seasons plots had to be retconned to shoehorn these characters into Cylons. The show's writers admitted years later that they had no plan and just picked these characters during the last season.
I understand your point, but i'm really talking about something else entirely really. :) Not about technical stuff or analysis of that script, not talking about wrong people chosen to be final five et cetera. I truly don't know how to express myself on the matter i'm trying to eloborate, it is more about sensing rather than having a technical analysis about this scene. But i may say this, when this series was released, when it was on air i mean, back then you were watching, what i'm trying to say could not be felt and understood in those years in it's true form and the whole scope of it. I can say this show ain't just a show, ain't just a random script of a sci-fi series. If you have any interest in "awakening" processes of humans on earth, or earth magnetic field changing, paradigm shift, vibrational ascension of some of us, i can make it more clear for you. This series and souls, hearts behind "this" iteration are "special" people. I mean we are talking about two very different aspects of this series. I just couldn't watch it as if i was watching a sci-fi series, believe it or not, i totaly felt how those final five in this scene felt in a span of 10 months.. Who were chosen to be the final five was not of any importance for me i mean. The "scene" itself..If someday you experience something they call "dark phase of the soul" ( this leads to ascension ) you would understand why i wrote those words. Think about it this way, we humans mostly perceive everything ( for example watching this series ) with our minds right? If one overcomes the mind, by enduring the pains in their lives for a very long time, and still securing his inner child within, mind oriented life gives way to heart oriented one.. The mind, ego, ( ego, yes that ego psychology thinks it is -the balance- and a strong ego is healthy ( it's quite the opposite in fact ) between your id and super ego )and the heart struggles to overcome over the other for such a long time, and if you can keep the balance within the two for a very long time, then someday, suddenly something miraculous starts to occur to you.. Welcome to "soul knowing" phase. Welcome to 5th dimensional perception. If one day you happen to watch this series again, watch it in a new perspective. Plotholes, who are cylons, who are the final five etc, is of no importance, the essence of the series is. I'm not young btw, i'm 34, and i watched this series just a year ago in a span of a 2 months at best.
The revelation itself.. The sensation of awakening in that scene.. The confusion, the feeling of not belonging..And realizing the connection to a greater thing, to the source.. It may all sound crazy, but it's all true.
A funny thing about this series is that my cousin was always trying to make me watch it. Maybe for 10 years or more i don't remember exactly, but he was watching it back then and was always trying to pursue me to watch it. And i don't think that it is a coincidence when i finally said ok, lets watch it together, it was the perfect time for me to do so. I watched this series while i was in a very strange period in my life, and it all made sense why. We are more than who we think we are. We are more than flesh and bones, chemicals in our bodies, our brain. I know, everyone knows that would be the case right? Most people belive we have a soul and an essence yes, but they all know it with their minds, it's whole another thing to truly "know", i can't find the right words to describe the sensations i was experiencing in those days.. Hands on fire...Too many synchs all the time, too many metaphysical stuff. We are connected to something by essence. Have a nice day, or night? :)
Uraz Oktay You are on the right path bro, try ayahuasca or psilocybin mushroom, it will guide you to what are you looking for. You can check Gaius Baltars interview about the show, all this show based on Biblical and Old Testament archetypes. All religions boils up to this similar stories in some sense. Also watch Jordan B. Peterson and you understand why you are reacting this like calling. Take care !
I know exactly what you mean. The first time I watched this episode and realised what was going on I was like oh s*** Batman did that just really happen?
It's a good lesson for the writers Among Us; you don't need a perfectly detailed plan. If you're willing to stick to consistent characters and storylines, and let the course of events emerge naturally, you can totally wing it. it wasn't the plan, but their decisions on who was a Cylon fit so well that it may as well have been.
I think it should be noted that the actor who plays colonel tigh I believe - Mike hogan is in hospital in Vancouver after a stroke a few months back. It doesn’t look like he will be getting out. Send love and hugs
“We’re Cylons, and we have been, from the start.” I still remember them playing that exact line in the preview commercials on SciFi. They ruined this episode, and later spoiled Cally’s death, at the hands of Tori. They literally showed her holding her baby, before glancing down at the button, with her hand ready to push it, then looking back up, with an evil look in her eye. Yes, I know this was all at least 12 years ago, and I’m still salty!
This was so awesome cause I watched the show once, waited like two or three years then watched it again, and had totally forgotten who all the cylons were so I got to experience this twice Also if you rewatch the show there’s foreshadowing everywhere, and it isn’t foreshadowing then man there’s a lot of lines that just happen to make it seem like foreshadowing
Ill never forget this on live TV. I had two of my friends over, beers, pizza. I don't think I can put into words the silence in the room. We didn't freak out, we didn't all look at each other and scream. One of us I think said ".......Oh." Complete shock. We figured Tigh, but the rest? wtf? And we all sat with our jaws on the fucking floor until Kara's fucking Viper came out of the nebula... I'm very surprised my neighbours at the time didn't call 911.
same feelings i had. I didnt freak but i was upset coz i knew they wont be given good arcs in final season and i was right. i still hate that they made sam and chief cylones
Fun nerd observation: they all meet up in the gymnasium- derived from the Greek word gymnos, meaning 'naked'. The final five are literally being stripped down to their naked core.
The Cylons mind was built around projections of future events. Remember that the song lyrics weren't written yet. The song was thousands of years in the future.
According to the mythos of humankind in BSG, everything repeats itself in ongoing and endless cycles of growth, destruction, and rebirth... the song has been written many times previously and many millions of years later will be written on our Earth.
I remember a funny story after this cliffhanger, Michael Hogan did some traveling after and at a ticket counter for his flight, the rep did a double take and quietly asked, 'Are you really a Cylon?' 🤣
Love that Sam seems unsure what to make of the situation at first until Saul walks in. He probably could imagine himself being a Cylon, maybe even Tory and Galen too, but Colonel Saul Tigh? The second-in-command of the _Galactica?_ The second most powerful man in charge of humanity's last defense? Adama's most loyal companion? The man who has never been shy about his hatred for the Cylons? Okay, _now_ this has to be a sick joke.
I wonder if Tigh's "What about Ellen" was actually him wondering not just about her sacrifice but that she was the final member of the 5 and where was she?
Set this point I was still putting it all together and I was I didn't believe it cuz I thought the song hypnotized them or something but after hearing that they were cylons it was just surprising the whole time after everything there fracking robots.
And just like that, Stone Cold Tory Foster was born... “Talk about your Scrolls, talk about your Pythia 3:16..... FOSTER 3:16 means I just airlocked your ass!”
You can almost hear the darts hit the dartboard and see the surprise on Ronald Moore's face as he removes the blindfold, to reveal who the cylons are going to be.
There must be some kind of way out of here, said the toasters to The Chief...
muttonbuster ah h ha now go take care of you kid cup
There is too much musical confusion,
I can't get no sleep.
This should have more upvotes
Hehehehe...excellent adlib! Lol...excellent!
so gooood :)
I like to think that the sleepers met here, and Saul just shows up because this is where he hides his endless supply of booze. He just plays along so nobody will know where his stash is.
That would make one hell of a plot for a parody.
"Yes. . . I. . . am a cylon. That's why I was here."
He did tell them to deadbolt the frakkin’ door. Doesn’t want the booze secret to spread any further
I don’t think booze enough for him to want to keep hidden. I bet this is where he came to drink booze AND to play dress up as Laura Roslyn.
He stays the hidden sleeper, because he's so hungover. I like it.
I love the "whoa!" when Tigh enters the room.
Tigh being Cylon doesn't make sense.
@@keitht24 Why doesn't it make sense for him to be a Cylon?
@@dwnkaomwn3953 My personal view, is the decision to make him a Cylon, essentially ruined the final season of Battlestar. That decision destroyed the entire coherent narrative of the final season. It spread like a cancer & wrecked every other storyline connected to it. The explanation for how Colonel Tigh ended up being a Cylon, required the most absurd mental gymnastics imaginable. Cavill was manipulating all the other Cylons & was responsible for hiding the final five from the others. We know Adama knew Saul Tigh for over 30 years. So Colonel Tigh had to be around a few years before he met Adama. Let's say he was put in 5 years after the first war. Then Cavill puts Ellen in, what 2-5-10 years after that. Then he puts Anders, Tory & Tyrol in decades later. Why would he stagger their deployments into the colonies? He literally kept some of them boxed for decades. It makes no sense. Gaeta should've taken the place of Colonel Tigh & Starbuck should've taken the place of Ellen.
DeathOnSernpidal he almost said “Dude...where’s my car?”
Absolutely makes the scene. The impact really hits you when you see his reaction.
Without question one of the greatest sci-fi series of all time.
Dude no joke. Single-handedly the most underrated sci fi show in history.
@GravityWell People kvetch about the angels stuff & the religious / spiritual stuff but it's still great.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eqI know right. I am not even remotely religious and I don't really believe in god but I still think this is one of the greatest sci-fi shows ever. I think the main point of the show was that all walks of life, from all classes, from different religions(monotheism, polytheism, agnostic, atheist) all have to get along and do what's necessary for our survival. Besides it's a made up story in, made up universe, with made up religions, just suspend disbelief and enjoy it. I love this series.
@@Ryan-ff2dbOnly Babylon 5 could be nearly as good as BSG. There have been comparisons between the two ( G'kar, Gaius Balter. Sheridan, Adama, etc. )
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eqI think there will eventually be a remake, I know quite a few people who are fanatical about that show. I tried to watch it but the super cheesy effects and make-up kind of turned me off but I honestly never gave it a chance. I imagine if it was made 10 years later or had a bigger budget it would be more popular. I'm sure the story must be great cause the people who are into it, are really big into it.
"Deadbolt that frakking door!!!"
Love how the moment Colonel Tigh finds out he's a Cylon, he reacts so frakking human.
@AliceLycoris aye, he became more human and a better man after the reveal.
In a later episode, Adama fell apart after Tigh told him he was a cylon. Imagine being told that your best friend that you knew the majority of your military career was a cylon.
You never forget the first time you see this scene
I know, right? "Wait...what..they're all hearing it...oh shit"
That's true. I'd sooner forget about Dre than forget about this scene.
I didn't want to accept it.
This is my first time
My brain refused to accept it.
Bear McCreary always knocks it out of the park. Fantastic music.
What is the title of that music?
best music ever after Pink Floyd
@@razorsharpview9090 All Along the Watchtower. Originally written by Bob Dylan, but probably more known from Jimmy Hendrix.
Saul's "whoa" gets me everytime. 😆👌 Please don't ever change, Colonel Tigh.
It's the, "Ah, no way!" right afterward that really nails the line home.
It's a very Canadian "Whoa" lol
"DEAD BOLT THAR FRAKKING DOOR!"
You have to hand it to them, the show picked characters you never would have expected.
RDM said in an interview later that they chose the 5 randomly out of a hat, which is maybe why the identities of the 5 are so weak as a plot element, in terms of importance
@@brianibbotson6492 If he actually said that, he was joking. He's said it wasn't totally random. They're all important figures or connected to same. Tigh is connected to Adama, Tory to Roslin and Anders to Starbuck. Tyrol is the chief of the deck. Then they thought it would be interesting for two of the five to be a couple, specifically a dysfunctional couple, so it was Saul and Ellen.
I could have seen Sam and Tory being Cylons in the regular sense (and both had been speculated to be Cylons before this), but Tyrol, Saul and Ellen only made sense with the Five being unique.
@@brianibbotson6492 He said dartboard not hat, and also you really need to work on your joke detection
I've noticed all the women cylons are attractive yet all the males are pretty ordinary with the exception of Anders lol.
This sequence is definetely one of the most epic twists in the world!
Yeah, that and the 'I dont see no door' scene in Westworld.
Yeah, in general I didn’t care for this whole portion of the storyline, but this whole Watchtower scene is still stunning and amazingly well done!
Bear McCreary's version of "All Along The Watch Tower" is STILL my favorite of all time!
Also all "The Final Five's" positions taken on New Caprica in opposition to what was going on is that much more intense and meaningful!
I hate it that they didn't include one of Tigh's best lines in the show.
"My name is Saul Tigh. I'm an officer in the Colonial Fleet. Whatever else I am, whatever else it means, that's the man I want to be. And if I die today, that's the man I'll be."
Just make the video slightly longer guys
That's the only redeeming thing about about this whole Farce.
I liked his character. He was simple. Loved his duty and was “hell on wheels” when sober
I love this. Saul told us who the Fifth was, and we didn't even know it.
I must admit the page is pretty bold to have not disabled comments here at this point... I also thought at least the first few times a couple of the final five being who they were was shocking and cool.
Not exactly though, saul didnt know ellen was cylon till the last moment. At this scene he 's just shocked because he killed ellen for the reasons she helped cylons. Him being cylon makes her death shocking to him.
@@abrahamwashington1 The show ended 10 years ago. Not exactly shocking spoilers at this point.
@@PathsUnwritten
Perhaps and who haven't watched the show and is afraid off spoilers,should avoid BSG vids,IF not completely,than at the very least as much as possible.
@@GameslordXY Wife is watching it for the first time, she's convinced ellen is cylon, but we haven't gotten to new caprica yet...
I watched this show for the first time like 2 years ago I had no idea what to expect from it and it ended up being one of my favourite shows of all time. I remember the first time I watched this episode, I don’t know if I’ve ever been more shocked at a reveal in a show. One of the best written shows I’ve ever watched
I just finished my first watch of the show last week and this is, hands down, one of the best twists I've ever watched
Tigh makes this scene perfect. Top marks to Michael Hogan
Yes. He was my favorite character. And so was everyone else in this show. Making great characters was what they got right on this show.
So, it's basically all the leaders of the New Caprica Resistance.
One of them should have been Gaeta.
much debated, for me personally this is one of the absolute highlights of the series. first, this wonderful sequence:
1. tigh against the wall "its in the ship!? its in the frakkin ship!" - priceless
2. that timing pull towards galen, the noise turning into a surreal moment of silence with him mumbling "there must be some kind of way out of here" - a phrase just vague enough to not make the alarm bell ring
3. cut to tigh hearing "said the joker to the thief?" - instant WTF
4. cue the remaining two sentences while McCreary goes completely nuts with some of his best and most creative and outlandish music work, ending in the reveal, and reaffirming the 4th wall breaking use of watchtower to the point where they mumble the melody, basically telling the viewer "yes, we're going all in with this".
so there you sit, thinking "this is a stunt corner they have written themselves into that they will never find their way out of again". and then they find the one logical exit that is saved for the late moments of the last episode, turning the timing on its head by revealing that this isnt a show that plays in the distant future, but the distant past, and watchtower is basically part of humanities genetic memory.
call it over the top, call it make-it-up-as-you-go, i dont care. its risky, its bold, and it gets solved in a logically coherent way that you couldnt see coming from a mile away, like so many of todays supposedly WTF "surprise" plot twists, which are usually never even nearly as bold and outrageous, and are thrown at you for shock value ASAP, thereby usually not standing on that amount of context and canon.
so, yeah, frak the haters. this is awesome.
To me, BSG didn't go off the rails until the very end. Literally the last ten minutes when Lee Adama just unilaterally decides to destroy what is left of Colonial civilization and require the remnants of his people to live in squalor and starvation.
That really did not make sense. They've been living aboard ships for possibly years after losing their homes, some were living on a different planet practically enslaved for a while and then he expects them to all be able to fend for themselves, build fucking mud huts and become hunter gathers? After being so reliant on technology?
Very strange move, and they could've used the ships to live in and salvage until they can make their own civilisation.
And then your humming along with them.
@@Iceman-135 The problem with retaining their technology is that the world the survivors of the twelve colonies eventually settle on is our world. The tech has to be got rid of somehow, otherwise it would pollute the historical timeline. The knowledge of what they had should give the settlers some kind of helping hand in establishing themselves here, even if as the centuries pass, that knowledge itself fades as the colonials are subsumed in the native populations of earth (some seeded populations may even fail and die out) before re-emerging in a new form in our human history.
Getting rid of the baggage of their past would be the only chance that the descendants of the colonials would take another path rather than simply repeat the cycle over again. Human nature being what it is though, our collective knowledge continues to outstrip our wisdom - all this has happened before.....
the reveal of the final five was awesome, the ending wasn't. It negated the relevance of the final five.
Watched this for the first time yesterday. It's got to be one of the best season finales I've ever seen, omg
It's inside the frakkin ship!
Miss you guys on screen. Wish it went for another 4 seasons. Loved every moment and even got my wife hooked on it. Cheers for the years of enjoyment. xoxo
Both my parents really liked it too. Scifi isn't their thing but it crosses so many genres everyone gets something from it.
They didn't have enough characters to kill off for 4 more seasons.
The end of the last season was so bad that it was a mercy to finish it off.
Eh I feel the show could have gotten away with one more season at most before becoming stale, but that’s only if they did a few more episodes with the fleet running out of supplies.
This is literally one of the greatest scenes in television.
"Hey, Bob, hey Jimi, why have you only one red eye going back and forth?"
This is perhaps the best scene in the whole series.
That honor goes to The Adama Maneuver
@@whichDude Ah yes
careful many to pick from lol
I love Tigh's oooooo when he comes in the room.
wpm you mean General Tullius
I watched this episode a few days after it aired and I was lucky that I'd misread somewhere that the big spoiler was that a Bob Dylan song was going to appear, which I interpreted was just going to be a homage to the final scene of the original Galactica series where the moon landing shows up. It was great having that expectation thrown out the window!
Being a Dylan (and Hendrix) fan, back when I first saw this years ago, it literally gave me vertigo when Tigh said the second line and it clicked. I get why people hate it, I get why people love it, the last season really spiraled and I'm not a big fan of it but this scene where the song clicks for all of them, how it's built up and directed and how great their version of the song is, still gives me chills, along with Kara's piano scene. I can forgive a lot for good music.
Did people hate it? I thought it was great. The song being from our world ties in perfectly with the origin of the Final Five. Ancient machines with severe selective Alzheimer’s
It would be a universally loved thing if they got someone cool to make a unique song for the show that rocked and could be a motif going into the final season
Instead it’s a bizarre intrusion of real life pop culture that makes absolutely no fucking sense at the time and makes even less sense after the finale
yeah piano scene was epic. (and this too) so much "epic" in this series.
@@thomasprice7893 Encore un pisse-froid... M'enfin: c'est votre avis. Moi, j'adore.
What a great scene & an even better concept to reveal the Cylons!
Absolutely love Michael Hogan here...and in everything in BSG!
thank you SO MUCH for posting these. i have legitimate tears in my eyes. i have to go back and watch the series now! thanks so much.
Does this mean Bob Dylan & Jimi Hendrix were also Cylons?
I think it means that, whether it's genetic memory or "God," human civilization repeats the cycle no matter what. That's why the ending was showing modern robotics. So, this song existed within us, it just took a while to manifest itself to us.
strangewayshere mainly Dylan.
Dylan is a 5
yes.
We're all hybrids remember?
3:23 what a surreal moment. Four random people in a room, singing the same imaginary song... Saul's over here having an out of body experience and snappin back to reality
Imagine if the cylon song was voodoo child instead of all along the watchtower.. they would of all been rocking out in that room together instead of having an existential crisis...
Screw watch mojos list THAT was the biggest twist in BSG
That, and when Ellen woke up on the Base Star to complete the Final Five
Darkest Argentum my vote and the OG Earth reveal
All too often I find watchmojo.com to be a bunch of Clueless blowhards. Everyone of course is entitled to their own opinions on what is or isn't good a certain TV show but they all too often act as if their opinion is the only possible valid opinion and I gave up on watching most of their stuff a long time ago.
@@YesiamNovas Colonel Tigh being a Cylon never made sense. He should've been substituted to Gaeta.
and when the show jumped the fraking shark.
All of these songs have happened before, all of these songs will happen again..
Still gives me chills
One of the best scenes in the series!
Omg I’ll never forget how epic this was. I never realized how Saul just foreshadowed the last Cylon 🤙🏻 The foreshadowing is huge when Saul asks, “Where’s Ellen?” That voice...this was during the Iraq War, my friends that were in the military got me into this and we used to all watch together on Ninja Video 🤙🏻
I love the "this was during the Iraq War" like the war ever ended...
Did your friends in the military realize they were doing to Iraq the same thing the Cylons were doing to New Caprica?
Vuoto Pneumatico Non Non No. When I got into 9/11 Truth, End the Fed and Antiwar protesting they disowned me and kicked me out of the house. I’ve been alone ever since. One of them said, “How do I know his father didn’t commit suicide because of this info..” That’s when I started to get real pissed at the NWO...RIP mister Kreisher, Semper fi 😢
This was absolutely epic, but in the end the 'final five' story went nowhere. That reveal was like a spiritual awakening! But then what happened at the end with the final five?! nothing! They made the other cyclons... big deal. Reminds me of Game of Thrones, with the whole 'three eyed raven' nonsense that went nowhere in the end.
Killer CD What do you mean the Final 5 did nothing? Did you even watch it?
@@Raptorcdxx it did go kinda nowhere. Tell me the story wouldnt rlly work without them...
Okay, so it turns out that Bob Dylan is a Cylon.
This was the screwiest twist in the whole saga.
I think Bob once said something along the lines of there always having been 'Bob Dylan' and that he was perhaps the one best suited to play the role. So, Bob must be God!! 😎
And now he just released a new song. Interesting...
Bob Dylan made a cover. This is like 150 000 years before our timeline ;)
We are all Cylon hybrids; The song was always within us. Bob Dylan just happened to subconsciously recall it enough to "write" and produce it.
Maybe he was an early model before they perfected the voice ;-)
"Whoooa"
Frakking Saul 😂
I've had that song in my head for over 40 years, does that mean....... oh frack!!!
Funny...I just happened to watch this series and came across this incredible scene some 10 months or so ago... I was in a soul shock...Maddening, awakening..Probably no one would understand what i'm talking here.. In a way what happened to those cylons right here, happened to me in a span of months, every day.. I was mind blown watching this.. It feels so strange, "that switch" going on... Coming back to the series..I've never watched any scene in any series that was that much impactful. After all those episodes, seasons..This comes. It is beyond words. This scene and music alone accompanied by the final moments of this series is unparallelled.. Just epic..
For those of us who watched the show from the very beginning, this was the scene that destroyed the show. None of these characters were originally intended to be the Final Five, and several seasons plots had to be retconned to shoehorn these characters into Cylons. The show's writers admitted years later that they had no plan and just picked these characters during the last season.
I understand your point, but i'm really talking about something else entirely really. :) Not about technical stuff or analysis of that script, not talking about wrong people chosen to be final five et cetera. I truly don't know how to express myself on the matter i'm trying to eloborate, it is more about sensing rather than having a technical analysis about this scene.
But i may say this, when this series was released, when it was on air i mean, back then you were watching, what i'm trying to say could not be felt and understood in those years in it's true form and the whole scope of it. I can say this show ain't just a show, ain't just a random script of a sci-fi series. If you have any interest in "awakening" processes of humans on earth, or earth magnetic field changing, paradigm shift, vibrational ascension of some of us, i can make it more clear for you. This series and souls, hearts behind "this" iteration are "special" people. I mean we are talking about two very different aspects of this series. I just couldn't watch it as if i was watching a sci-fi series, believe it or not, i totaly felt how those final five in this scene felt in a span of 10 months.. Who were chosen to be the final five was not of any importance for me i mean.
The "scene" itself..If someday you experience something they call "dark phase of the soul" ( this leads to ascension ) you would understand why i wrote those words.
Think about it this way, we humans mostly perceive everything ( for example watching this series ) with our minds right?
If one overcomes the mind, by enduring the pains in their lives for a very long time, and still securing his inner child within, mind oriented life gives way to heart oriented one..
The mind, ego, ( ego, yes that ego psychology thinks it is -the balance- and a strong ego is healthy ( it's quite the opposite in fact ) between your id and super ego )and the heart struggles to overcome over the other for such a long time, and if you can keep the balance within the two for a very long time, then someday, suddenly something miraculous starts to occur to you..
Welcome to "soul knowing" phase. Welcome to 5th dimensional perception.
If one day you happen to watch this series again, watch it in a new perspective. Plotholes, who are cylons, who are the final five etc, is of no importance, the essence of the series is. I'm not young btw, i'm 34, and i watched this series just a year ago in a span of a 2 months at best.
The revelation itself.. The sensation of awakening in that scene.. The confusion, the feeling of not belonging..And realizing the connection to a greater thing, to the source..
It may all sound crazy, but it's all true.
A funny thing about this series is that my cousin was always trying to make me watch it. Maybe for 10 years or more i don't remember exactly, but he was watching it back then and was always trying to pursue me to watch it. And i don't think that it is a coincidence when i finally said ok, lets watch it together, it was the perfect time for me to do so. I watched this series while i was in a very strange period in my life, and it all made sense why. We are more than who we think we are. We are more than flesh and bones, chemicals in our bodies, our brain. I know, everyone knows that would be the case right? Most people belive we have a soul and an essence yes, but they all know it with their minds, it's whole another thing to truly "know", i can't find the right words to describe the sensations i was experiencing in those days.. Hands on fire...Too many synchs all the time, too many metaphysical stuff. We are connected to something by essence.
Have a nice day, or night?
:)
Uraz Oktay You are on the right path bro, try ayahuasca or psilocybin mushroom, it will guide you to what are you looking for. You can check Gaius Baltars interview about the show, all this show based on Biblical and Old Testament archetypes. All religions boils up to this similar stories in some sense. Also watch Jordan B. Peterson and you understand why you are reacting this like calling. Take care !
This was the best show made had alot of good twists and unexpected plots. Never expected these guys to b cylons
Oh this bit gave me chills like nothing else before.
I know exactly what you mean. The first time I watched this episode and realised what was going on I was like oh s*** Batman did that just really happen?
It's the 24th of April, 2022, and I _still_ get goosebumps from this scene!
In retrospect, it's interesting how Tigh and Tyrol were so resilient in 33. Just saying.
In retrospect, it's interesting how three out of final five were the driving force of the resistance movement on the New Caprica.
In retrospect it's amazing how the writers pulled this out of their ass
@@locusmortis But it still worked like a charm. The reveal is amazing.
Actually it's only until the very end of the third season that the Writters decides who the final five should be.
Nobody knew until then
It's a good lesson for the writers Among Us; you don't need a perfectly detailed plan. If you're willing to stick to consistent characters and storylines, and let the course of events emerge naturally, you can totally wing it. it wasn't the plan, but their decisions on who was a Cylon fit so well that it may as well have been.
I think it should be noted that the actor who plays colonel tigh I believe - Mike hogan is in hospital in Vancouver after a stroke a few months back. It doesn’t look like he will be getting out. Send love and hugs
It was years ago, but this scene blew my mind like no other.
Legendary scene! It can be rewatched endlessly
This scene is when Galactica went from amazing to phenomenal
Having ré watched it recently I loved how the lyrics are wedged in their day to day conversations throughout the slow build up to the reveal
My favorite scene from the show
“We’re Cylons, and we have been, from the start.”
I still remember them playing that exact line in the preview commercials on SciFi. They ruined this episode, and later spoiled Cally’s death, at the hands of Tori. They literally showed her holding her baby, before glancing down at the button, with her hand ready to push it, then looking back up, with an evil look in her eye. Yes, I know this was all at least 12 years ago, and I’m still salty!
Now I'm very glad I started watching this after the series ended.
How the hell this video as not like millions of views and likes?!
It give me chilling every time I watch it!!!
Best tv show ever
This was so awesome cause I watched the show once, waited like two or three years then watched it again, and had totally forgotten who all the cylons were so I got to experience this twice
Also if you rewatch the show there’s foreshadowing everywhere, and it isn’t foreshadowing then man there’s a lot of lines that just happen to make it seem like foreshadowing
This gave me chills all over again
Ill never forget this on live TV. I had two of my friends over, beers, pizza.
I don't think I can put into words the silence in the room. We didn't freak out, we didn't all look at each other and scream.
One of us I think said ".......Oh." Complete shock. We figured Tigh, but the rest? wtf?
And we all sat with our jaws on the fucking floor until Kara's fucking Viper came out of the nebula... I'm very surprised my neighbours at the time didn't call 911.
same feelings i had. I didnt freak but i was upset coz i knew they wont be given good arcs in final season and i was right. i still hate that they made sam and chief cylones
There must be someway out of here, said the joker to the thief, there's too much confusion here,I can't get no relief
One of the greatest moments in entertainment history. Everything about this is glorious.
Still having the goosebumps!
All along the watchtower...
Ugh this show is SO good. There’s never been another like it. It’s unbeatable in my opinion
I remember being shocked out of my mind at this reveal when it first aired
Fun nerd observation: they all meet up in the gymnasium- derived from the Greek word gymnos, meaning 'naked'. The final five are literally being stripped down to their naked core.
Thats Deep.
The moment in Werewolf when you're one of them
Taskforce Valkyrie wants to know your location
Can’t resist playing the minor 2nd stabs from the bass line to this magnificent cover just after Chief says we’re Cylons ha ha
4:44 The sleeper's have awakened
The final 4.......my god
The Cylons mind was built around projections of future events. Remember that the song lyrics weren't written yet. The song was thousands of years in the future.
Edward Hines or was it merely remembered 150,000 years later...😎
According to the mythos of humankind in BSG, everything repeats itself in ongoing and endless cycles of growth, destruction, and rebirth... the song has been written many times previously and many millions of years later will be written on our Earth.
Loved this show (except for final season) this was one of my favorite all time reveals in ANY series. We were ALL shocked!!
THIS WAS F*CKIN AWSOME. SO SAY WE ALL!
Now I have to watch this series all over again. Not such a bad thing.
Just saw this scene for the first time, so fraking good.
I remember a funny story after this cliffhanger, Michael Hogan did some traveling after and at a ticket counter for his flight, the rep did a double take and quietly asked, 'Are you really a Cylon?'
🤣
Tigh being a Cylon wasn’t much of a surprise. Much earlier in the series he had a line “Cylons don’t have rights.” That’s when I called it.
They finally got to attend the cylon meetings.
Love that Sam seems unsure what to make of the situation at first until Saul walks in. He probably could imagine himself being a Cylon, maybe even Tory and Galen too, but Colonel Saul Tigh? The second-in-command of the _Galactica?_ The second most powerful man in charge of humanity's last defense? Adama's most loyal companion? The man who has never been shy about his hatred for the Cylons? Okay, _now_ this has to be a sick joke.
my favorite show :)
"A song played from a nebula in space and now I know I'm a robot."
An absolutely *moronic* story beat excecuted excellently.
Eight slices of toast between them !!!
best episode of tv ever written.
What about ellen?? ;**( (thats one eyed tigh crying)
I wonder if Tigh's "What about Ellen" was actually him wondering not just about her sacrifice but that she was the final member of the 5 and where was she?
Set this point I was still putting it all together and I was I didn't believe it cuz I thought the song hypnotized them or something but after hearing that they were cylons it was just surprising the whole time after everything there fracking robots.
I like how they all got over the shock for a few seconds just to hum the song
So the insurgence leaders on New Caprica were Cylons fighting on behalf of the humans trying to kill a human working on behalf of the Cylons.
And just like that, Stone Cold Tory Foster was born...
“Talk about your Scrolls, talk about your Pythia 3:16..... FOSTER 3:16 means I just airlocked your ass!”
hes a cylon!
shes a cylon!
you're a cylon!
I'm a cylon!
Is there any other cylons around her I should know about?!?
Everyone stands up
YO!
I knew it, I'm surrounded by Cylons!
They have surprisingly few questions.
Does anyone else wonder how they knew the words to Watch Tower 1,000’s of years before it was written?
In the show one of the 5 is shown singing it on old ‘earth’.
No, because the whole premise of the show is that time loops. The phrase "this has all happened before and will happen again" is used many times.
Oh my gods no fraking way what a series
I don't know about you but, I've been a Cylon from the start. And we're coming back.
You can almost hear the darts hit the dartboard and see the surprise on Ronald Moore's face as he removes the blindfold, to reveal who the cylons are going to be.
Ronald D Moore probably had Colm Meany drop by to throw the Daerts … just a thought
I don't know how the use of"All Along The Watchtower" can be so carry and so badass at the same time
This was like WHAT THE FUUUUUCK!!!!!
What the Frak
The Apocalyptic Song Of The Higher Power....Only A Chosen Few Could Hear It...
Exactly. Kundalini awakening.
It is now Cannon, that Jimi Hendrix was actually covering an over 200,000 year old song , from another planet....
I love Tigh: whoa whoa whoa! Deadbolt that FRACKING Door!
One of the greatest WTF? moments in TV history
5 minutes goosebumps.
Brilliant show...just brilliant