Super cool video and testing! Similar findings to us, we have gone all the way to 5:1 with HERO with no issues of streaking. We recommend the 64:1 dilution as a more economical Waterless solution as you are still getting the cleaning power, and lubrication needed to perform a waterless function. We have lots of customers using the 15:1 dilution as a drying aid!
Is there any real difference as far as safety on the paint between adapt and hero as waterless? Or is the difference mainly the format it comes in and protection it leaves? They seem like different chemical make ups.
@@jayhoughton558 Both will be equally as safe. Adapt will be slightly more lubricating, and leaves substantial hydrophobic protection behind. It builds in similar actives to our Ceramic Spray Sealant. ADAPT is designed to be a one and done product for a quick and easy wash/protect. It is more expensive, but there is a lot that goes into that formula. We have customers reporting it lasting months even in winter conditions, and outperforming many competitors spray sealants.
Thats Awesome! I just used HERO at 64:1 today for the first time and as a drying aid, and it was better than any rinseless ive ever used. I dont even need 15:1 but you got me curious
I have not, but they do say use it 256:1 for everything. (clay towel lube, window cleaner, interior cleaner, waterless wash, and pad cleaner) The other brands give different dilution ratios for different uses. I'll keep the suggestion in mind for a future video though.
Great video. It's nice to see a channel who presents useful information rather than information that is copied over and over again from other channels.
Cool video!. Thanks for your great work. What if I want to use Adapt as a rinseles wash by diluting it?. Would it behave as hero but leaving SiO2 protection instead?
I personally would not. While many rinseless products can be diluted to use as a waterless, I've only seen one company so far have a waterless concentrate that can also be diluted for rinseless.
Mike: I just recieved Hero the other day. Will use shortly. Have you ever tried KCx Wf (Wash & Finish)? That's a great true waterless wash. Sold in 5 liter jugs only and you don't dilute.
Mike, First off, Thanks. I tried this today and found the 32:1 dilution to be a lot slicker than 64:1 and easier to work w/ in sunlight than the other WW's I've tried, but I do have a question. Wouldn't it be logical to conclude it's leaving SIO2 behind?...not that that's a bad thing. If not, what could explain the increased slickness? Also whether that's the case or not, will it clog towels?
The way this works as well as other new releases is that the SiO2 is bonded with the surfactants to produce slickness while washing, but then leave no protection behind. Most will have about a days worth of water beading on bare paint, but that's all.
@@TheOutdoorDetailer sorry I was at a church thing and couldn’t reply more fully. Thank you for that explanation. I had not heard that. But it makes sense. So if it’s bonded to surfactants, then I don’t need to worry about it clogging up my towels?
Sorry I hadn't replied as your question doesn't show up as not having been responded to. In any event, I ALWAYS soak and wash my microfiber wash and drying towels after use. With the sponges if they'll get used for more than one brand testing I will rinse, but otherwise I let them dry and then just reuse, though it would make sense that even sponges would get hydrophobic over time from letting product dry. I guess in theory there should be no SiO2 buildup, but I have noticed that some do leave about a days worth or a rainy day's worth of protection. In fact I am really surprised that nearly all the products I have been testing this summer leave either zero or next to zero protection, yet provide extreme slickness with the sponge. If you are starting rinseless washing in 2024, you can't go wrong with any of over a dozen products on the market.
I have been debating on getting waterless/rinseless washes to keep the car clean every 3rd week I like to use the self service washes and occasionally the drive thru(I know) but I've been exploring this option
Trust me on this one. Even with a rinseless wash, your car will look better than it ever has after going through a tunnel wash. (I can speak from experience)
I am waiting for a company to make a spray product that enhances gloss while filling minor micro marring. Like a spray wax that fills like a paste wax.
I tried some Lithium Color Crush on the hood of the SUV on Saturday and it seemed like it did hide some of the stuff I usually see in the sun, though I wasn't able to inspect at all angles. It was nice and slick feeling after. It rained overnight and it also had great beading. (Better than the gyeon coating I have on the car)
I honestly have no idea. I was buying another product they sell to test and wanted to add on enough product for free shipping. Figured a few month protection product would be worth trying.
I have a love hate relationship with Idrosave, which is the main reason I hadn't published a video about it yet. I have a pile of them and they show my sponge turning black, the cleaner sheeting off the surface, and some other negative things. I also have a few where it cleaned easily and had no issues. So until I can sort out what exactly it works for with me and what it doesn't I have to save that content.
@@TheOutdoorDetailer I’ve bought it but not used it yet, just thought the protection side of it was more comparable to Adapt, I think this is how I’ll try it first as I’m not sure it’s going to suit my needs as a Rinseless.
Super cool video and testing! Similar findings to us, we have gone all the way to 5:1 with HERO with no issues of streaking. We recommend the 64:1 dilution as a more economical Waterless solution as you are still getting the cleaning power, and lubrication needed to perform a waterless function. We have lots of customers using the 15:1 dilution as a drying aid!
Is there any real difference as far as safety on the paint between adapt and hero as waterless? Or is the difference mainly the format it comes in and protection it leaves?
They seem like different chemical make ups.
@@jayhoughton558 Both will be equally as safe. Adapt will be slightly more lubricating, and leaves substantial hydrophobic protection behind. It builds in similar actives to our Ceramic Spray Sealant. ADAPT is designed to be a one and done product for a quick and easy wash/protect. It is more expensive, but there is a lot that goes into that formula. We have customers reporting it lasting months even in winter conditions, and outperforming many competitors spray sealants.
Thats Awesome! I just used HERO at 64:1 today for the first time and as a drying aid, and it was better than any rinseless ive ever used. I dont even need 15:1 but you got me curious
Can you awesome people sell the trigger sprayers as well. im looking everywhere for them?
This is what I needed to know thank you!
Awesome video! Love the testing in the sun!!
have you diluted DIY rinseless to these different concentrations? I wonder if their rinseless streaks
It does if you go lower than 256:1
I have not, but they do say use it 256:1 for everything. (clay towel lube, window cleaner, interior cleaner, waterless wash, and pad cleaner) The other brands give different dilution ratios for different uses. I'll keep the suggestion in mind for a future video though.
Their rinseless does streak if used in higher concentration than 256:1
Great video. It's nice to see a channel who presents useful information rather than information that is copied over and over again from other channels.
I appreciate that!
Forgot to mention, I have Adapt and it is a great product. Small size container but works excellent
Another really interesting test !
Glad you think so!
amazing video.. I was wondering exactly this question as I just ordered a bottle of hero but plan on using it as a waterless wash.. thanks so much!
Glad it was helpful!
Cool video!. Thanks for your great work. What if I want to use Adapt as a rinseles wash by diluting it?. Would it behave as hero but leaving SiO2 protection instead?
I personally would not. While many rinseless products can be diluted to use as a waterless, I've only seen one company so far have a waterless concentrate that can also be diluted for rinseless.
Duly noted. Thanks for your prompt reply and keep up the great work.
I was wondering the same thing!
Thank you. Really interesting content you're coming out with. In other news, Hero has come to the UK! Yey!
I appreciate you watching, and I am sure they are cranking the HERO out as fast as possible.
I like the comparisons you have been using. Nice and well explained videos. Keep it up!
Thank you very much!
Mike: I just recieved Hero the other day. Will use shortly. Have you ever tried KCx Wf (Wash & Finish)? That's a great true waterless wash. Sold in 5 liter jugs only and you don't dilute.
I have not tried it yet. Have a lot of other KCx stuff though. I need to somehow figure out how to utilize 5l of AF.
Mike,
First off, Thanks. I tried this today and found the 32:1 dilution to be a lot slicker than 64:1 and easier to work w/ in sunlight than the other WW's I've tried, but I do have a question.
Wouldn't it be logical to conclude it's leaving SIO2 behind?...not that that's a bad thing. If not, what could explain the increased slickness? Also whether that's the case or not, will it clog towels?
The way this works as well as other new releases is that the SiO2 is bonded with the surfactants to produce slickness while washing, but then leave no protection behind. Most will have about a days worth of water beading on bare paint, but that's all.
@@TheOutdoorDetailer thx
@@TheOutdoorDetailer sorry I was at a church thing and couldn’t reply more fully. Thank you for that explanation. I had not heard that. But it makes sense. So if it’s bonded to surfactants, then I don’t need to worry about it clogging up my towels?
Sorry I hadn't replied as your question doesn't show up as not having been responded to. In any event, I ALWAYS soak and wash my microfiber wash and drying towels after use. With the sponges if they'll get used for more than one brand testing I will rinse, but otherwise I let them dry and then just reuse, though it would make sense that even sponges would get hydrophobic over time from letting product dry. I guess in theory there should be no SiO2 buildup, but I have noticed that some do leave about a days worth or a rainy day's worth of protection. In fact I am really surprised that nearly all the products I have been testing this summer leave either zero or next to zero protection, yet provide extreme slickness with the sponge. If you are starting rinseless washing in 2024, you can't go wrong with any of over a dozen products on the market.
"If they put this in the casino's, i would never leave" lmaoooo good one. great video again sir! - #54 subscriber
Very well done!💯💪🏼
Another great video.
I have been debating on getting waterless/rinseless washes to keep the car clean every 3rd week I like to use the self service washes and occasionally the drive thru(I know) but I've been exploring this option
Trust me on this one. Even with a rinseless wash, your car will look better than it ever has after going through a tunnel wash. (I can speak from experience)
@@TheOutdoorDetailer Thank you for quick response
Wow! Ask and I shall receive! Thanks for the video!
Any time!
I am waiting for a company to make a spray product that enhances gloss while filling minor micro marring. Like a spray wax that fills like a paste wax.
That's the sole purpose of Meguiars Ultimate Insane Shine Paint Glosser. I haven't tried it so can't give you any feedback on it.
I tried some Lithium Color Crush on the hood of the SUV on Saturday and it seemed like it did hide some of the stuff I usually see in the sun, though I wasn't able to inspect at all angles. It was nice and slick feeling after. It rained overnight and it also had great beading. (Better than the gyeon coating I have on the car)
@@coreyh4947 i didn't even know this existed i will have to try it. When was it launched?
I honestly have no idea. I was buying another product they sell to test and wanted to add on enough product for free shipping. Figured a few month protection product would be worth trying.
Nice!!!
Idrosave as a WW would be more comparable to Adapt
I have a love hate relationship with Idrosave, which is the main reason I hadn't published a video about it yet. I have a pile of them and they show my sponge turning black, the cleaner sheeting off the surface, and some other negative things. I also have a few where it cleaned easily and had no issues. So until I can sort out what exactly it works for with me and what it doesn't I have to save that content.
@@TheOutdoorDetailer I’ve bought it but not used it yet, just thought the protection side of it was more comparable to Adapt, I think this is how I’ll try it first as I’m not sure it’s going to suit my needs as a Rinseless.