ARMOR DETAIL SUPPLY GHOST - MISTAKES WERE MADE - FOLLOW UP AND RE-DO
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- this is a follow up video to my first use and application of ADS ghost. the next day i woke up to a nightmare on these tires. after a talk with DJ from armor detail supply and accessing the potential problem i deep cleaned the tires and reapplied the ghost sealant and the tires look amazing…this follow up is to help or prevent anyone from making the same mistake 🙏🏽🐿️💨
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Not the Chupacabra😂Appreciate the follow up so I’ll know exactly what to do.
@@ChiGalKMcAcura hehehe, you’ll love how ghost looks 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 yeah this video’s audio kicked my butt…mistakes were made all around 😆😆😆
Thanks for sharing your experience and updating. I tend to only use one product (for cleaning prior to demo) so it's easier to identify any issues - I also try to use the same brand of cleaner. But---I think you are giving real world experiences where not everyone uses the exact same thing that the supplier recommends. I have used Gyeon Tire Cleaner and it works really well. DJ and Bradley from ADS are the best!
@@Bruces-Garage as always thanks for the support and yeah there was definitely a “devil” in this detail 😜
the next day after this go round the tires looked amazing, i really think the undressed not being fully rinsed off was the culprit on the first video 😜
Thanks for the video! I am planning on applying Ghost this weekend and will use your advice for sure!!
@@debtennis1301 thank you!!! yeah as long as you prep properly you won’t have any problems!!! ✌🏽🐿️💨
Wild that it peeled off lord
@@Ecdetails my dude it was like they had bad sunburn! had some tire flavored chicharrones to snack on though, so not a complete loss 😆🐿️💨
@@FrankoDetails Mmmm my favorite snack!!! 🤤
@@Mr.SparkleOG 😆🛞🐖
My man said, chupacabra! 😂😂 I'd say more like el cucuy 👹
@@FineDetailingAZ lmao! bro that’s the one i was thinking of 😆😆😳😆😆
I have seen this happen and have experienced with tire coatings. There could be a couple things that attribute to this. One thing is if the tires are new then they tend to have that mold wax release which takes more effort to remove it besides a tire cleaner such Stoners Tarminator and the mold wax release tends to keep coming out for a few weeks. For this it is recommended from experience to just clean the tires on a weekly basis for 3-4 weeks and do not dress them until that time.
Secondly if the tires were dressed recently and often, it does have the ability to penetrate into the tire. So even though we think it is clean there is still tire dressing that leaches out to the surface after driving. Stoners Tarminator can help and it maybe a good idea to use a panel wipe as a last resort for that final wipe.
This can be the downside to going to a tire coating and Ghost looks like it behaves like a tire coating. I have not used it just yet so I can't clearly say that. But McKee's Tire Coating and Tuf Shine Tire Coating are two examples of acrylic tire coatings that go from blue to clear. I suspect one of these two happened to you. #pinchechupacabra
@@MikeGDetailing oh yeah the tires have been cleaned and dressed on a regular basis, in this situation i don’t believe the tires are brand brand new, although it’s a 2023 we bought it used and those should be the tires that came on it originally.
i definitely learned an important lesson in that i should have a dedicated tire cleaner in my arsenal that’s for sure. dark fury was great although going forward i’ll be cautious with it. the eulex wipe down seems to do the trick but i’ll only be using that as a final prep for stronger tire sealants and not regular dressings.
besides koch chemie’s eulex i’ll definitely look into that tarminator, thanks for the heads up you tha man! 😎🐿️💨
La Llorona lol you cried like she does during this experience!!?? Thank you for logging real life in detailing -not everything always goes as planned-you and DJ handled it like champs!!
@@DetailsNMe lol…yeah dj’s the man! i had problems with the tires the first time, then i had audio problems with the edit on the second video…hopefully there won’t be any more devils to plague me!!! 🙏🏽🐿️💨
@@DetailsNMe oh snap, yeah you ran into that issue with your dads rim, black magic wheel cleaner maybe? yeah wether it’s user or product error we gotta let ‘em know what’s up ✌🏽🐿️💨
Another with Casper😜😜😜
well i got the audio synced but now it sounds horrible, hopefully it’s just a processing issue and it’ll even out proper 😜🐿️💨
Looking forward to seeing next follow up. Planned on trying it soon with all clean as the cleaner. Tires have only have DIY dressing on them
@@MikeKaufman-d7n yo kaufman! yes’r ghost is amazing i just had bad luck the first go around. this time everything was great, today the tires looked amazing. next follow up should be me cleaning the wheels with just a rinse from my pressure washer 👍🏽🐿️💨
@@FrankoDetails Awesome Franko!
I got tired watching this wheel cleaning 😅😅😅😅😅 6:21
I had the exact same thing happen to my tires when I applied Optimum Tire Sealant (with the same blue hue in their own formula at the time, which makes me think the "blue hue" in the formula is some sort of chemical ingredient that gives the longer durability). It may have been residual product left behind as you stated because the same exact thing happened to me and I swore I would never use the crappy product again! Well, it wasn't a crappy product, but probably my own inefficiency in prepping the tire thoroughly. It might have had something going on on the tire rubber itself??? Not really sure, but it's very interesting that the same thing (and almost the exact same look) with that flaking and rust colored look you had here in your pictures. I do know that it took me a lot of work to correct the problem! A LOT. I essentially had to attempt to strip off the product, which was a nightmare. Whenever using a longer term tire rubber sealant, the only advice I can give anyone reading this or looking at this video, is before applying these long term tire dressing products is CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN the tire rubber the best you can do. If you THINK the tire rubber is clean, it's probably not, make sure you clean it again, three to four more times. It's a pain in the butt and it certainly takes longer to prep the tires than when using normal tire dressings (which are far more forgiving to layering or having old residue product still on the tire) but it's the only way you will get a nice uniform appearance and will allow the product to work as the makers intended it to look on the tire surface. I know people say to look for "white foam" or white bubbles as an indication as the tire rubber surface as being clean, but that isn't always a good indication either. I also used Odorless Mineral Spirits purchased at Lowes, and I recommend its use to anyone applying a new type dressing for the first time, USE MINERAL SPIRITS after the fourth or fifth time of using a high alkaline cleaning chemical or specific tire prep product. CLEAN, CLEAN, and CLEAN AGAIN! That's really the only advice I would give someone based on my own experience with these higher longevity tire dressings. Mineral Spirits are a good option to remove any traces of previous cleaning products. If you haven't tried odorless mineral spirits as your final wipedown on the tires, give it a shot, it works pretty well and I have never had a problem with it damaging the tires at all. One company that makes a really good tire cleaner (heavy duty one) is TUF SHINE TIRE CLEANER. It's a tire cleaner and prep made by TUF SHINE, who were one of the first companies to release one of the longer durability tire dressings many years ago. It's quite a bit stronger than most tire cleaners you can buy at Wal Mart or the big box and Auto parts stores. Autogeek sells it and I am sure it's available at other sites as well. I had pretty good luck with it. There are many other good tire rubber cleaners out there now days also as many more have been released since. Re-Tyre is another one from CarPro that's pretty good. Superclean is good for a cheap price, but just use it neat (Straight, with no dilution) for the best results for a good clean. I currently use DARKSIDE as my dressing and I have had no problems whatsoever with Darkside, even layering it after several wash sessions to "refresh" the appearance. The PREP is not a problem at all with Darkside either, nothing like it was when I used the Optimum Tire Sealant (with the blue hue). Just use RE-TYRE or a the TUF SHINE tire cleaner I mentioned a couple times on the tire, rinse well, and you will probably have a great user experience and a new favorite tire dressing that lasts and lasts compared to normal water based dressings.
@@joevanseeters2873 lol…well said brother! thank you for the support and also helping anyone else who may read this 🙏🏽🐿️💨
A hack Instsrted doing lately on my truck tire is to use a dry magic eraser spray product into magic eraser and wipe down tire dry then start your normal tire cleaning process. For me brake buster Isn’t strong enough. I clean my truck weekly and BB takes more time do to more passes. Magic eraser is abrasive enough and material soaks up gunk at the same time. I have nobby Offroad AT tires so it’s a chore to clean and prep.
@@davidnuxoll7074 yeah big tires are a pain, but i’ve always had good luck with brake buster. dwell time is the secret with that one, i’ll apply and scrub it down on the rubber and let it dwell on the tire while i clean the rim by the time i’m done there’s no need for a second pass fo sho! … this one was me using undressed and i’m certain i didn’t neutralize and or rinse it off completely thus causing problems with the ghost 😜
@@FrankoDetails I’ve done the other way, as long as I can get a week or two I’m happy. Everyone wants durability but don’t realize the pain it is to keep clean or remove. Shorter duration easier to remove and start fresh so I’m that way now.
Same thing happened to me using Exoforma Permashine. Seems to be similar formula with the same blue hue when applied.
@@juliovasquez8530 yeah i think its an acrylic 😜
@@FrankoDetails Thanks! I’m not a detailer so I didn’t really do my research. Just tired of the tire slinging and looking for something better.
@@juliovasquez8530 oh yeah as long as you prep the tire properly you absolutely can’t go wrong with ads ghost ✌🏽
What tire dressings did you use recently? I wonder if you have used a solvent dressing that didn’t come off completely? Since you had so much goop in the ribs on the sidewalk it kinda looked like that.
The ADS tire cleaner is amazingly strong stuff. I think they also say you can use tar remover as well to get them cleaner.
@@jayhoughton558 i pretty much use adams graphene tire dressing, sometimes gummi from stjarnagloss. but both are fairly weak dressings only lasting a couple of weeks. in this case i really believe that the p&s undressed was the culprit in preventing the ghost to stick 😜 i’m almost sure it didnt rinse away completely
but you’re definitely correct with the tar remover … or mineral spirt prep, but that’s really only needed for serious tire sealants (in my opinion)
Wow hope u have better luck this time around , got my bottle of ghost yesterday haven’t used it yet, personally I’ve been using ADS’s tire cleaner for the past like 5 months and it’s so stout and foams up so nice, I buy the gallon and dilute 2:1
@@RCdetails203 oh yeah 👍🏽 the next day it looked great … yeah that dark fury and gyeon tire cleaner came in clutch this time. 😜🐿️💨
@@FrankoDetails what did u dilute the dark fury at ? I never get dark fury to foam up on tires unless I dunk my tire brush into my wheel bucket
@@RCdetails203 that was the first time i used it so i went with 4:1 in a 16oz bottle…i only used 4 sprays per tire, a couple of extra on the last tire that i video’d.
i think it was foaming because i had the brush in my other hand and right as i sprayed it i immediately hit it with the brush 😜🐿️💨
@@FrankoDetails ya must be why cause same dilution and same brush I use lol
Looks like dust hit the tyre dressing while it was still curing.
the crazy thing is that for the 6 hours that it sat and cured they looked amazing. the browning from the dust had to have come from the rust that settles on the brake rotor, after driving to and from work we believe that’s what settled on the tires, that did rinse off but after the rinse we could see that the ghost didn’t adhere properly, thus the re-do 😜 none of the products performed poorly i just have to change the order that i use them 🤘🏽🐿️💨
Mistake #1 used express 😂
ohmygod bro dark fury! dark fury for the win, that stuff is great, of course i’ll use caution when using it but i can wait to use it more 🤘🏽🐿️💨
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@@BXGreen whaaaaasuuuuup!
Which shoes are these?
@@serranosmobile those are the brooks hyperion, i normally buy the brooks ghost, but these hyperion’s are great 👍🏽🐿️💨
@@FrankoDetails looking into these
What do you have under your tires to get them off the ground?
@@britishrocklovingyank3491 hey hey, those are those swiss trax garage floor tiles, i bought 4 of them $9.00 dollars each with the ramp edges at $3.39 each. they are exactly 3/4 of an inch in height, been testing them out as a more permanent solution to making wood ramps out of 2x8’s or 2x10’s which are 1 and 3/4 in height.
so far i’m liking them but a bit more height would be nice 👍🏽🐿️💨
@@FrankoDetails Thank you!
@@britishrocklovingyank3491 no problem👍🏽
Tacos 🌮 Iam hungry 🤤 after I finit the job Iam ready to get back to washing my baby’s watching you now to get my motivation back bc Iam tired as heck 💩😂 for me the car pro retire is like a nuke what ever comes it’s way I never had problems just two passes and all is clean like new strong shit I tell you 🫡
@@Dias-v dias!!!! yeah that dark fury came in like a wrecking ball
Wow… Glad I don’t use any tire dressings or sealants. Seems like a LOT of work for “hopefully it works”.
@@JeepJL hehehe, you and cars with keav like them naked au natural tires! but yes this time the tires look great no flaking or anything weird 😜 … and i’ve been sleeping on a dedicated tire cleaner, i always thought “eh a 2 in 1 works just fine”. that gyeon was excellent and boy that dark fury didn’t play around either 😜🐿️💨
@@FrankoDetailsYou got to admit that natural tire color looked good before you put that tire makeup back on there. 😂
@@CarsWithKeav you’re not entirely wrong 😜🐿️💨
If it helps Franko, I did a pre scrub with Koch Chemie AWH then hit it with mineral spirits before application. Holding up so far. Koch Chemie at 1:5 and 2 applications and the tires are stripped like they're trying put themselves through college. ua-cam.com/users/shortsRqmImfaawtw?si=drjdJI5Xpnnc4kmv
@@FineDetailingAZ yeah, i really believe i didn’t rinse off the p&s undressed completely the 1st go 😜
@@FrankoDetails all good give the Koch Chemie a try it’s pretty wild. I only use it to strip.
@@FineDetailingAZ 😆😆😆