Hello and thanks for this video. As a french fan of microbrands, it has been a real pleasure to look at it. This chrono is well done and, as usual with Depancel, got a bit of racing spirit in it. At this price range, you do not have a lot of movements' choice : this manual Sea-Gull or a meca-quartz Seiko. Some years before, I purchased a 1963 Sea-Gull chrono and the movement broke. I tried to have it fixed but couldn't find any watchmaker to do. All were answering, this is a too cheap chinese movement, to try to fix it not worth it. 😢
I hope that brands using this movement would provide a back-up in future given what they are charging compared to a Far East produced watch using this movement, but who knows?? At least with the $100 to $200 watches on Ali it's not a great loss.
Thank you for your comment. It's always great to hear about people's experience with watches/movements. I was under the impression that those movements are pretty good but there are a few people in the comments that have had similar experience to you:(
Seagull is indeed today the only chronograph manufacturer in this price range. We are well aware of the manufacturing challenges regarding this movement, hence the long testing time and process to make those fully reliable and accurate, I guess we are still the only one to guarantee those 5 years :-)
Very pretty, esthetic watch. The crown is a very nice touch. 5 years warranty for this movement looks like suicide... Thanks Oleg, for the interesting and fair review, as always!
@trogpo : All the movements are carefully disassembled and reassembled by our watchmakers to perfect the settings (-10 +20 s/day) , oiling and greasing. Hence the 5 years warranty that we offer on all our watches that you indeed usually won"t find on Seagull at entry prices
What a great looking piece. The French seem to do chrono's very well, don't they? Yema, Baltic, Lip, now this. And yes, the ST19 = Venus 175. It's not like a 175, it IS absolutely a Venus 175, made on the very same machinery Venus made them on in the 1950s. They have found crazy stuff in China that apparently went from the US to Switzerland to China and then disappeared for several decades before being recognized by a visiting historian.
@@BryanO92 the fact multiple factories make the movement when they only got one set of tooling, the fact that the number of jewels in the movement has increased from 19 in the 60's to 21 today, the fact there are multiple derivative movements based on the 175 tooling, the fact that after nearly 70 years the tooling would be worn out and in need of replacement.
@@BryanO92 it wouldn't be millions of dollars in China to do that work, and they churn out so many of the things that the tooling would be paid for in no time. And they're so cheaply produced that replacing them costs little and on top of that few people actually bother with warranties, if warranties are even given in China (and they wouldn't care about the foreign market).
We had a smaller crown on previous handwound model and increased it for a smooth and enjoyable winding experience - definitely required for a watch you will wind every two days !
A few people in the comments mentioned that this movement is not reliable. For some reason I thought that these Sea-gull movements were pretty good. I guess I was wrong.
@@24hourstime If you get a good one then yeah, it's a solid enough movement. If you get a good one. It's really a crapshoot if they'll last any length of time
Nice review. This movement is Not reliable. My copy quit tracking elapsed time within a couple of weeks. I have been told by an expert that about 15 percent of these Seagull movements fail. No chance to get them repaired in China!
Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately your experience mirrors a few people in the comments. A mechanic-quartz movement would probably have been a better choice.
We do guarantee our watches 5 years and would take care of movements issues should they happen. Not all the brands want to include those services in their offer since it comes at a high cost but you won't get those issues rate if movements are controlled and set properly post factory reception.
This movement is notoriously bad, regardless of how it's maintained. Most enthusiasts are aware of this, and will not buy any piece with this movement.
Hello and thanks for this video. As a french fan of microbrands, it has been a real pleasure to look at it. This chrono is well done and, as usual with Depancel, got a bit of racing spirit in it. At this price range, you do not have a lot of movements' choice : this manual Sea-Gull or a meca-quartz Seiko. Some years before, I purchased a 1963 Sea-Gull chrono and the movement broke. I tried to have it fixed but couldn't find any watchmaker to do. All were answering, this is a too cheap chinese movement, to try to fix it not worth it. 😢
I hope that brands using this movement would provide a back-up in future given what they are charging compared to a Far East produced watch using this movement, but who knows?? At least with the $100 to $200 watches on Ali it's not a great loss.
Thank you for your comment. It's always great to hear about people's experience with watches/movements. I was under the impression that those movements are pretty good but there are a few people in the comments that have had similar experience to you:(
Seagull is indeed today the only chronograph manufacturer in this price range. We are well aware of the manufacturing challenges regarding this movement, hence the long testing time and process to make those fully reliable and accurate, I guess we are still the only one to guarantee those 5 years :-)
Very pretty, esthetic watch. The crown is a very nice touch. 5 years warranty for this movement looks like suicide... Thanks Oleg, for the interesting and fair review, as always!
Thank you for the kind words:)
At 650€, they can assume 5 years warranty. But at this price it’s suicide.
@trogpo : All the movements are carefully disassembled and reassembled by our watchmakers to perfect the settings (-10 +20 s/day) , oiling and greasing. Hence the 5 years warranty that we offer on all our watches that you indeed usually won"t find on Seagull at entry prices
@@Depancel-ul3uk Thanks for the interesting and very impressive info! Good luck!
What do you mean looks like suicide??
Nice design.
Really nice watch - Thanks for the review
It’s an interesting and different design. I like it.
Thanks for the review
Awesome 😎👍👍👍
What a great looking piece. The French seem to do chrono's very well, don't they? Yema, Baltic, Lip, now this. And yes, the ST19 = Venus 175. It's not like a 175, it IS absolutely a Venus 175, made on the very same machinery Venus made them on in the 1950s. They have found crazy stuff in China that apparently went from the US to Switzerland to China and then disappeared for several decades before being recognized by a visiting historian.
No, they've upgraded the movement and reproduced the machinery.
@@Horizontalvertigo Source?
@@BryanO92 the fact multiple factories make the movement when they only got one set of tooling, the fact that the number of jewels in the movement has increased from 19 in the 60's to 21 today, the fact there are multiple derivative movements based on the 175 tooling, the fact that after nearly 70 years the tooling would be worn out and in need of replacement.
@@Horizontalvertigo So they made millions of dollars worth of changes to a perfectly good movement, yet quality control is a waste of money?
@@BryanO92 it wouldn't be millions of dollars in China to do that work, and they churn out so many of the things that the tooling would be paid for in no time. And they're so cheaply produced that replacing them costs little and on top of that few people actually bother with warranties, if warranties are even given in China (and they wouldn't care about the foreign market).
Nice i'likit you said the price how much in us dollars💯👍
That's a pretty cool watch
It isn't "cloned" movement. Seagull bought Venus and moved whole factory and stuff to China and went to produce movements on its own.
Always got to be that one person to correct some bs.
@@MrBeard-et1yi
You welcome.
That crown is way too big...throws off the entire watch geometry. Otherwise a nice timepiece.
We had a smaller crown on previous handwound model and increased it for a smooth and enjoyable winding experience - definitely required for a watch you will wind every two days !
Doesn't look too big to me
"very reliable" is extremely overselling the ST1901
A few people in the comments mentioned that this movement is not reliable. For some reason I thought that these Sea-gull movements were pretty good. I guess I was wrong.
@@24hourstime If you get a good one then yeah, it's a solid enough movement. If you get a good one. It's really a crapshoot if they'll last any length of time
It indeed requires some effort to make it reliable :-) we take care of that to guarantee -10+20s / day
Nice review. This movement is Not reliable. My copy quit tracking elapsed time within a couple of weeks. I have been told by an expert that about 15 percent of these Seagull movements fail. No chance to get them repaired in China!
Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately your experience mirrors a few people in the comments. A mechanic-quartz movement would probably have been a better choice.
We do guarantee our watches 5 years and would take care of movements issues should they happen. Not all the brands want to include those services in their offer since it comes at a high cost but you won't get those issues rate if movements are controlled and set properly post factory reception.
@@depancel thank you for your response. Your watch is beautifully designed!
Very thoughtful design-but that movement is hot garbage.....
The construction is good, assembling and greasing quality needs to be controlled accurately if you want to maintain a high standard.
This movement is notoriously bad, regardless of how it's maintained. Most enthusiasts are aware of this, and will not buy any piece with this movement.