No, they should not be allowed to play at that br until they learn to properly play thbe game, there's no tutorial that can teach you stuff you'd normally learn with experience, there's quite a lot of stuff that needs to be covered so I hope you understand this would not work.
Point and click isn’t that hard to learn tbf. It’s not like you need to learn armor weak points or anything. They should go play cod for awhile to get those reaction times up.
@@raizencore No, people should rightfully be able to play whatever BR they want. Premium players dont effect you directly. If gaijin is going to advertise exclusively top tier, make people think they can start where they want (modern tanks) but then make them have to pay $60-$70 to do that, they should be able too. Just because you had to slog through whole trees because you didnt want to buy in doesnt mean other people should. Making people not able to play what they want especially when they pay for it is outright wrong in every way. Its a videogame, not a contest, a job, or real life. Gaijin has made it this way from the beginning, they cant change it now.
@@Starwalker-dm4mg they did mention they were never gonna sell premium jets in one of their official videos, and players would have to grind their way up. Look at where we are now
You see my biggest fear by far is that their way to balance this out is to just give every Nation a top tier prem like they did in air. And then with that every nation is fed and the WR balances itself out
This is 100% gonna happen. Next update is probably USSR and germany, and some other minor nations (maybe sweden to drop their winrate, and its gonna be similar to the german one probably)
@@NotOlzen balance it out by giving it to nations that dont need it in any way, and i can guarantee you the premiums for Germany and Russia will be copy pasted OP bullshit if not unique OP bullshit. Russia already has 10.3-11.3 premium tanks problem is theyre 10.0. The 2S38 should be 11.3 and the TURMS-T should be 10.3. Its bizarre that the M1 Abrams with M774 is a higher BR than the TURMS-T and the HSTV-L is above the 2S38.
If the US tech tree were in need of a new reserve tier vehicle for the light tank line, I'd really want the M1 Armored Car to be the one. Sure, it's primary armament is just a Browning .50 cal. & then one or two Browning .30 cal. MGs, but at low tiers, a .50 cal. is just as good as the main guns of most tanks at the tier.
21:59 IRL (not a video game) HEAT is more common than SABOT. 9.9/10 the Abrams has ALWAYS has, or always has been projected to fight weak nations that either have weak darts, or tons of HEAT. Hence the no spall liner. The Abrams in current day isn’t expected to be in a hot war with the Leopard 2A7. But IRL isn’t a video game, tank on tank combat wasn’t the focus on these upgrades. Why add an extra 2.5 TONS of weight in spall liner if you don’t intend on being penetrated to begin with yk? Especially since the weight of the Abrams has been a major ISSUE both natively, and export wise. Hence the M-10 Booker, and Abrams X (MUCH LIGHTER FOR A REASON). There’s no point IRL if adding that spall liner for many ergonomic reasonings. Especially ones being shipped off to active wars rn. That slows everything down, especially shipping. Added weight makes a difference in what can and can’t haul a thing. What can and can’t hold that thing while hauling. What bridges it can cross, etc. In this video game War Thunder we forget that because that’s not modeled. The Maus doesn’t break bridges it typically crosses, neither does the Abrams.
As far as sniping content. On a map like this, it makes sense. Large open areas are the death of tanks with LRFs. But on the urban maps you play aggressive. So I think it’s perfect
7:45 I personally enjoy the sniping stuff, especially since thats how a lot of the tanks are meant to be used in the first place being in hull down positions and repositioning
I’ve gotten many nukes just from killing click-baits its not really fun when you’re enemies have played the game for less than an hour and you’re not having to think much
My top tank is a T-72A, a 9.3. But I've been using the BMP-1 effectively against the high tier tanks lately. A good close ambush corner or far sniping spot. I've even managed to do good with the ASU-85 at 9 or higher.
8:46 Any vehicle that can be uptiered to the highest br (10.7 for ground and 11.3 for planes) should be considered a “top tier premium” especially as there are so many players in the top br brackets that uptiers are very common
I don't even play top tier anymore, all the good players play mid tier... Air and Ground. I find myself having tougher matches. Top tier players are quick to tell you how good they are, then they get wiped when they step down... They're kinda like the people who jump/pay to top tier, only difference is they send you death threats and most of the time they cant spell...
A good balance of content is a great thing, seeing only sniping or only rushes and flankings all the time it get's boring pretty quickly so it would be nice if in each video you included multiple play styles.
I just got to 9.3 with the T-72A and noticed there are a lot of newbies in KVTs and Click Baits that leave the matches early. Basically that's the only high tier vehicle they have.
Taking full ammo on an abrams is a bad idea. Blowout panels doesnt work if the panel between the ammo stowage and the crew is penetrated. So if a shell penetrates an abrams from turret cheek's small weak spot like on the 6:06 or from the turret neck (If you are still alive you are a lucky one) it might detonate the ammo, you can see the ammo is damaged by that shot. In this case if you died but can't see the killcam you are killed by an aircraft or you are killed by an ammo detonation. I think the best choice is taking 20 shell at total.
I carry full ammo in my 120 Abrams tanks and only 52 rounds in my 105 Abrams tanks all the time and it works fine for me. The only times I die to ammo detonations are when people *intently* attack the blowout racks from behind, the sides, or in cases if I'm on a slope facing someone and my turret roof is visible to the enemy. Granted, frontal penetrations of the blowout rack are indeed very possible especially for the non-DU Abrams tanks and the AIM but it does not happen too often since you usually die to crew knockouts anyway.
@@icy3-1 Yea thats what I wanted to say by "If you are still alive you are a lucky one", you are going to die to crew knockouts most of the time. Its compeletly luck but I've died to ammo detonations from the front many times. I think I suck on luck. This game is really starting bore me out, join battle, get shot from neck got killed instantly, I wouldn't grind america without premium for 700 hours if I knew It was that bad. Maybe the game is not for me idk, Im about to delete it if they are not going to do something about it. By the way doesn't AIM has DU armor at least equal protection as with A2 variants
@@bytunix Yep, all good. Wouldn't blame you for that. And yes, I know the AIM doesn't have DU, the "DU Abrams" thing is more of an umbrella term for top tier Abrams tanks anyway.
Remember that they used the export version of abrams and refuse to change the lower front plate or fix the turret ring issues to make abrams an atleast somewhat better vehicle. Their reasoning? Well it would just be a harder vehicle to kill…in a world where STRV 122B and Leo 2a7vs exist. Leveling 11.0 stock abrams have been CBT to the point I have just opted to play Japan in my off time, I’m only 8.7 with Japan but it feels refreshing compared
8:47 it's just a play of words, yeah it sits at 11.3 wich is technically "not" top tier but, it plays with 11.7 all the time, so something that is being seen in top tier so often, is top tier
The spalling issue could be solved if gaijin gave the abram tank crew armor to protect them. Irl they wearing helmets and vests to protect against spalling.
I second this! I've been playing USA 10.3 and it's been alright. It generally sucks getting uptiered because the teams suck so you generally lose but so long as you don't get sucked into 11.3, it's kinda fun actually.
@@ryangoslingIRL It's not just the US. Top BR is outrageously imbalanced (from 40% to 72% winrate holy jesus shit). I enjoy 8.7 Russia a lot more for instance and coincidently a lot of nations are closer together in winrate around there. I mean, hell, the UK is "top dog" at that BR with 58% WR which is nothing insane either. Also Germany and Russia (which are kind of a benchmark being the most played nations and facing each other most of the time) stand within 0.3% WR in the 51% range. THAT is balanced. It's coincidently way more enjoyable. Edit : Holy crap I've just checked the last data on Data Project. 11.3 USA has dipped below 37%... Rough.
If you want to get technical, this is tier 8 which is "top tier". However it isn't max BR for GRB so Gaijin does in fact sell top tier vehicles... They just don't sell max BR vehicles
I was planning on buying it to finish my American tech tree ,since I’ve been playing only top tier with other nations ,but seriously,USA top tier is hell at the moment… Every match that I’ve got paired with Americans ,it’s a loss So yeah ,I don’t know ,may wait a little bit Nice content Justin ❤
Half the reason why we lose besides Russian bias are the fact that we get level 30s playing top tier with their one singular tank so when their premium gets destroyed because they do not know what they are doing, then they leave and thus they cause the us and allies to loose.
Top tier is rough if you're fighting against Russian MBTs. They have an infinite HP invisible spal liner. Look at any russian MBT that doesn't have a 'spal liner' and you'll see your darts don't spal like they do against NATO tanks. When you hit a NATO tank it's like someone shot a massive shotgun in your tank.
This is an invalid complaint. 9/10 times you shoot a Russian MBT in the lower plate it's dead, same with driver port weakspot. Sides are an easy kill unless you miss the crew and hit the engine. I find Leopards are the most survivable top tier tanks. Abrams are jacks, T-80s and T-90s are like heavy tank roles in a sense. Leopards are ace tanks while the Strv 122s are just god-tier.
I think the Abrams could be fixed if they made it so rounds that bounce off the upper front plate couldn't pen the turret ring anymore that small change would probably boost Abrams survability by a lot.
One of the quickest ways to boost the Abram’s is to lower the reload speed again and finally give the DU ammo. Finally give us that incredible high pen we know the Abram should have. At least make it a glass cannon where as currently the m1 feels like a brawler that has no pen or armor 😅
I have the tank to help my 11.3 us lineup with the hstvl and m1 aim. I have been loving it but the teams even in down tiers are bad. Plus the ammo i take less than what justin used in the beginning to help survive a little bit better.
Tank has shitty cheeks and mantlet Tank has issues turning at low speed shitty hull armor Tank reloads quite fast It reverses quite fast turret is okay if angled over ridgline(which you should be doing either way) Problem with it is that its underpowered af compared to strv 122b or a7 or t90M Also new players are playing it which makes it die fast and have 1 tank players who dont play objectives so thers that too I personaly do good in it
Gaijin does sell top tier vehicles in my opinion. Anything 10.7 and higher can get uptiered and therefore fights at top tier. The click bait is fully capable of fighting at 11.7. As are a couple other high BR premiums offered.
Its simple; they added this vehicle so players can buy them selves a full top lineup with the Squadron M1A (+lower BR premiums ... maybe), the AH-64 brickpache, and throw the A-10, A-6 and (very) maybe the F-4S for CAS to have a full valet-warrior set, with the ever so popular US !
I played a single game of top tier britain yesterday, my entire team apart from one other person was playing russia, i got 1 kill and ran across the entire map to cap the point since it was battle and my team just crowded around the enemys spawns
sitting back engaging targets at distance is what real tanks do in real life. so i like this type to playstyle. its smart. too many COD types on this game nowadays
22:08 well.. that's because the U.S has always had their wars up about the Middle-East, where the majority of the countries they had fought had no access to Sabot rounds, let alone DU Sabots.
Because of how many people buy these they should be put in specific matches to people at a similar level so if you buy a top tier premium below level 50 then your put in only matches with other similar people or just something where their not in matches with the people who grinded it so their not tanking the win rated
to me, any vehicle that can see top tier matches is a top tier premium, full stop. Back when the X-M1 was added into the game, it was 9.0, with the top BR of 10.0. It saw top tier every game or close to it. It was for all intends and purposes, a top tier premium. Same goes for the click bait.
I think the Abrams needs a turret ring buff as well as the bottom of the turret face. I honestly don't think a hull buff would help most of the time youre hull down anyway or you just shoot turret ring cause its so large.
maybe they should make it to where you have to be a certain level in the game like 30 or 40 to be able to buy these top tier packs? it might be a good idea
I'm brand new. I die to spawn CAS - ALOT, DAILY. I die to enemy spawn camping - ALOT, DAILY. I die to enemy spawn camping across the darn map, in every single vehicle I've grinded out I die fast. So when I saw the click bait, I wanted it. I researched it and knew its armor sucked compared to the AIM but I wanted it if only for the chair (hehe). I love the handling. It feels natural to play with. I had the same experience with my T92. Couple days ago I capped a zone with my T92 and left to patrol. An IS-3 decided to cap it back. Nah ah.. that cap belongs to me! So I went back and got directly in his face, found a little crater 15 feet in front of him on a small berm and dared him to make any move that would allow him to get me while starring directly at him .. lol I'm sure I drove that boy stupid. I'm only at 7.7 so I've yet to play even 1 round of any kind in it. I like the hi-tier vehicles and can afford them (I have a couple) but I've not earned my way to top tier yet so its test drive and custom battles for me for now while I grind out my AIM. But with the US tree having questionable choices for a lineup between 7.7 and 10, the squad is starting to give me lectures on things to expect in things to come soon,
Tank is good, it’s just most ppl who play it aren’t very experienced and tend to suck, most abrams also have the same problem with ppl not playing them good but it is a learning curve and the abrams in game and war thunder in general has some inaccuracies that hurts this tank too
Hey Justin, can you revisit the leo 2 pzbtl? I know you've done a video on it before but i'd like to see your playstyle with it within the current state of ground battles at 10.3
The HCs never had 2nd gen thermals unfortunately, being a bit of a parallel to the M1A2s. I reckon US top tier MBT thermals are relatively okay now with both SEPs and the AIM. As a follow-up to the tech tree HC, I'm just waiting for the M1A1 FEP so we get a tech tree M1A1 with good thermals along with the 16 smokes :3
I dont care if inexperienced players use top tier premiums (and yes anything that sees top tier in matchmaking is a top tier premium) but the problem is that they only get at best 2 spawns and as long as they are only playing 1 vehicle it wont lock someone out anyway for leaving a match so its just a bad idea for gameplay. I have 10,0 premiums, but i always waited until i was within 1 BR of the vehicle I wanted before getting it and running it in matches that way I still had a usable lineup to play with if I died early on.
07:55 Leo7 passes thur you sight as you trying to snipe the hardest target and he’s right in front lol. I was like… is he gonna shot that guy or am I missing something here?
Whats that for a space between the armorplates in the front? 👋 I saw the stormin norwan gun camo infront of my gunner sight looking ⭐ 🤔 would be not the first time 🌞
My win rate while playing grb for top tier America used to be around 54%, but if you look at the more recent vehicles like the new abrams and what not, its now like 40%. Playing america at top tier now adays is one of the worst types of torture you can endure. About 70% of your team consists of lvl 10-60s who only have premium / squad vehicles and have 0.2 kds across the board. It all went down hill as soon as they started adding things like the a-10, and the m1a1 aim. A bunch of 10yr children who think the a-10 is the best plane ever and will win against a mig 29 and all they have to do is fly in a straight line and go brrrrt now infest the american top tier.
the game should queue players based off of level and BR so level 5s who buy a top tier plane or tank are up against other low level players who bought top tier tanks and planes
This is just my thoughts on premium vehicles, I think the vehicles themselves aren't really over powered or paid to win. War thunder is an extreme game of skill and game knowledge and new players who buy premiums is annoying at times it is more the new players who dont take the time to learn how to properly set your rangefinder, positioning and more because they skip those vital lessons when they dont play the lower tiers. I have bought my fair share of premium vehicles but i dont have the time to spend ages grinding out a tech tree, i view them as a time saving to get the to the vehicles I enjoys playing, (sidenote i commend anyone who is entirely free to play and is at top tier your have way more time and patience than i do). but i think it all could be fixed by simply making it so that the higher teir vehicles are only able to be bought when you have a vehicle in the rank. making it so that the top tier environment is littered with one spawn teammates but also makes it so that you can learn the lessons needed to do well at top tier. Will this happen probably never, but it is a a thought.
Hey Justin! I have a question: which do you think would be worth it more? M1 Kvt or Click Bait? I love the normal m1 abrams but i have the m1a1 aim and i love it too? Wich one do you prefer more?
@@JustinPlaysTVI’ve played clickbait for Christmas It’s a very good tank for arcade and realism But in assault, this tank is quiet expensive unlike the cheaper KVT. But both tanks preform well in a particular role Plus I’m currently setting a desert storm line up with these tanks as a collective piece which also includes the F-4S which you are missing But besides this, the new HC is no flop or what internet folks call a “clickbait.” It’s a glorious tanks for a marine style gameplay. Plus you are given the option to play like an HC or surprisingly enough, the M1A2. But as it gets upteired, it gets vulnerable to higher tanks, even another abrams, but if it’s in downteir, this is where the clickbait strikes. All I’m saying, plan wisely and you can get an abrams to victory and might as well troll some noobs while at it
Personally I see anything from 10.0 and up as top tier. With that being said, I called lies on gaijin's claim. Put on the same hand, I was not at all surprised to see them add top-tier vehicles as premiums.
A small suggestion: when you have those short messages make them slightly longer. When I'm on the computer they are fine, I can stop the video to read them. When I'm on the phone it is just too hard to pause the video so I usually don't bother
From what I remember seeing, the US already had a
No, they should not be allowed to play at that br until they learn to properly play thbe game, there's no tutorial that can teach you stuff you'd normally learn with experience, there's quite a lot of stuff that needs to be covered so I hope you understand this would not work.
Or gaijoobles could bar anyone from buying premiums from a rank that they do not own tech tree tanks in but that would cut into their profits
Point and click isn’t that hard to learn tbf. It’s not like you need to learn armor weak points or anything. They should go play cod for awhile to get those reaction times up.
One youtuber counted winrate of US team by downloading real replays and get that on 11.7 US currently have 29% of wins
@@raizencore No, people should rightfully be able to play whatever BR they want. Premium players dont effect you directly. If gaijin is going to advertise exclusively top tier, make people think they can start where they want (modern tanks) but then make them have to pay $60-$70 to do that, they should be able too. Just because you had to slog through whole trees because you didnt want to buy in doesnt mean other people should.
Making people not able to play what they want especially when they pay for it is outright wrong in every way. Its a videogame, not a contest, a job, or real life. Gaijin has made it this way from the beginning, they cant change it now.
“We won’t be selling top tier premiums. Ever.”
And now, we will sell top tier premiums
Um 🤓 we added a new tier so now its not actually top tier 🤓
game got fucked once they realized they could make a ton of money
And they said its not top tier lmao
@@teppygray4314 nope, this was the plan from the beginning, there was never a point where it wasn't the plan to squeeze the playerbase.
@@Starwalker-dm4mg they did mention they were never gonna sell premium jets in one of their official videos, and players would have to grind their way up. Look at where we are now
I enjoy the sniping content, it helps me with learning spots on the maps and tricks on aiming
same. it also gives it kind of a more realistic scenario
You see my biggest fear by far is that their way to balance this out is to just give every Nation a top tier prem like they did in air. And then with that every nation is fed and the WR balances itself out
This is 100% gonna happen. Next update is probably USSR and germany, and some other minor nations (maybe sweden to drop their winrate, and its gonna be similar to the german one probably)
@@NotOlzen probably, and it will be an excuse to buff thoses nations as well (leopard, t-xx etc) 😂
@@NotOlzen balance it out by giving it to nations that dont need it in any way, and i can guarantee you the premiums for Germany and Russia will be copy pasted OP bullshit if not unique OP bullshit.
Russia already has 10.3-11.3 premium tanks problem is theyre 10.0. The 2S38 should be 11.3 and the TURMS-T should be 10.3. Its bizarre that the M1 Abrams with M774 is a higher BR than the TURMS-T and the HSTV-L is above the 2S38.
@@NotOlzen T-80BVM Obr. 2023 next update.
It'll likely happen, but it won't "fix" anything. Regardless, people still want to play US when they start off
Sniping content is still engaging as long as you're narrating and giving us a little meta-commentary on the state of the game
If the US tech tree were in need of a new reserve tier vehicle for the light tank line, I'd really want the M1 Armored Car to be the one. Sure, it's primary armament is just a Browning .50 cal. & then one or two Browning .30 cal. MGs, but at low tiers, a .50 cal. is just as good as the main guns of most tanks at the tier.
Good luck, man. All Gaijin will do is just spit in your face, laugh at your request, and then just keep badgering you to buy the 2S38.
7:55 i was making so much noises when that leopard just snuck under the scope
I mean, how… just HOW does you miss that!!!!
I also appreciaie the MiG-21 flyby in the same frame.
21:59 IRL (not a video game) HEAT is more common than SABOT. 9.9/10 the Abrams has ALWAYS has, or always has been projected to fight weak nations that either have weak darts, or tons of HEAT. Hence the no spall liner. The Abrams in current day isn’t expected to be in a hot war with the Leopard 2A7. But IRL isn’t a video game, tank on tank combat wasn’t the focus on these upgrades.
Why add an extra 2.5 TONS of weight in spall liner if you don’t intend on being penetrated to begin with yk? Especially since the weight of the Abrams has been a major ISSUE both natively, and export wise. Hence the M-10 Booker, and Abrams X (MUCH LIGHTER FOR A REASON).
There’s no point IRL if adding that spall liner for many ergonomic reasonings. Especially ones being shipped off to active wars rn. That slows everything down, especially shipping. Added weight makes a difference in what can and can’t haul a thing. What can and can’t hold that thing while hauling. What bridges it can cross, etc. In this video game War Thunder we forget that because that’s not modeled. The Maus doesn’t break bridges it typically crosses, neither does the Abrams.
As far as sniping content. On a map like this, it makes sense. Large open areas are the death of tanks with LRFs. But on the urban maps you play aggressive. So I think it’s perfect
7:45 I personally enjoy the sniping stuff, especially since thats how a lot of the tanks are meant to be used in the first place being in hull down positions and repositioning
I’ve gotten many nukes just from killing click-baits its not really fun when you’re enemies have played the game for less than an hour and you’re not having to think much
My top tank is a T-72A, a 9.3.
But I've been using the BMP-1 effectively against the high tier tanks lately.
A good close ambush corner or far sniping spot.
I've even managed to do good with the ASU-85 at 9 or higher.
I love it when you knife fight Justin. It teaches us how to prioritise targets and deal with tough situations.
If you pay close enough attention whenever he fires the apfsds round you can see the guides coming off at the barrel while he's angry with the scope
Aiming with the scope
8:46 Any vehicle that can be uptiered to the highest br (10.7 for ground and 11.3 for planes) should be considered a “top tier premium” especially as there are so many players in the top br brackets that uptiers are very common
Just found this channel and subscribed. You, oddbawz and Phly are my go to war thunder fix from now on.
What i do is Defyn for any air vehicle and i take justin for top tier and odd for -10.3
I don't even play top tier anymore, all the good players play mid tier... Air and Ground. I find myself having tougher matches. Top tier players are quick to tell you how good they are, then they get wiped when they step down... They're kinda like the people who jump/pay to top tier, only difference is they send you death threats and most of the time they cant spell...
A good balance of content is a great thing, seeing only sniping or only rushes and flankings all the time it get's boring pretty quickly so it would be nice if in each video you included multiple play styles.
Doesn’t help that all Abram’s are breach repair simulators.
I just got to 9.3 with the T-72A and noticed there are a lot of newbies in KVTs and Click Baits that leave the matches early.
Basically that's the only high tier vehicle they have.
You are being matched with clickbait which is 11.3? Ithink the max u can get is 10.3
Taking full ammo on an abrams is a bad idea. Blowout panels doesnt work if the panel between the ammo stowage and the crew is penetrated. So if a shell penetrates an abrams from turret cheek's small weak spot like on the 6:06 or from the turret neck (If you are still alive you are a lucky one) it might detonate the ammo, you can see the ammo is damaged by that shot. In this case if you died but can't see the killcam you are killed by an aircraft or you are killed by an ammo detonation. I think the best choice is taking 20 shell at total.
I carry full ammo in my 120 Abrams tanks and only 52 rounds in my 105 Abrams tanks all the time and it works fine for me. The only times I die to ammo detonations are when people *intently* attack the blowout racks from behind, the sides, or in cases if I'm on a slope facing someone and my turret roof is visible to the enemy.
Granted, frontal penetrations of the blowout rack are indeed very possible especially for the non-DU Abrams tanks and the AIM but it does not happen too often since you usually die to crew knockouts anyway.
@@icy3-1 Yea thats what I wanted to say by "If you are still alive you are a lucky one", you are going to die to crew knockouts most of the time. Its compeletly luck but I've died to ammo detonations from the front many times. I think I suck on luck. This game is really starting bore me out, join battle, get shot from neck got killed instantly, I wouldn't grind america without premium for 700 hours if I knew It was that bad. Maybe the game is not for me idk, Im about to delete it if they are not going to do something about it. By the way doesn't AIM has DU armor at least equal protection as with A2 variants
@@bytunix Yep, all good. Wouldn't blame you for that. And yes, I know the AIM doesn't have DU, the "DU Abrams" thing is more of an umbrella term for top tier Abrams tanks anyway.
4:50 "a teammate? Hell yea" very surprising having useful teammates playing top tier US lol
10:11 the most chaotic sequence 😂😂 hilarious
Remember that they used the export version of abrams and refuse to change the lower front plate or fix the turret ring issues to make abrams an atleast somewhat better vehicle. Their reasoning? Well it would just be a harder vehicle to kill…in a world where STRV 122B and Leo 2a7vs exist. Leveling 11.0 stock abrams have been CBT to the point I have just opted to play Japan in my off time, I’m only 8.7 with Japan but it feels refreshing compared
8:47 it's just a play of words, yeah it sits at 11.3 wich is technically "not" top tier but, it plays with 11.7 all the time, so something that is being seen in top tier so often, is top tier
The spalling issue could be solved if gaijin gave the abram tank crew armor to protect them. Irl they wearing helmets and vests to protect against spalling.
the spalling of steel behind the gas tank is my biggest problem it just nukes you while leo has a thicker base plate and spalls way less
The guy at 7:58 just driving by LOL
Id say from my personal experience the state of US right now seems fine to 11.0. The 11.3 and especially 11.7 are true pain for me
Honestly agree, I find the most fun In US techtree is 9.0 with xm-803, 10.3 with m1 kvt and m1, nd 11.0 with m1a1 and ipm1
I second this! I've been playing USA 10.3 and it's been alright. It generally sucks getting uptiered because the teams suck so you generally lose but so long as you don't get sucked into 11.3, it's kinda fun actually.
11.0 US crushes tbh I have a ton of luck in that BR
@@ryangoslingIRL It's not just the US. Top BR is outrageously imbalanced (from 40% to 72% winrate holy jesus shit). I enjoy 8.7 Russia a lot more for instance and coincidently a lot of nations are closer together in winrate around there. I mean, hell, the UK is "top dog" at that BR with 58% WR which is nothing insane either. Also Germany and Russia (which are kind of a benchmark being the most played nations and facing each other most of the time) stand within 0.3% WR in the 51% range. THAT is balanced. It's coincidently way more enjoyable.
Edit : Holy crap I've just checked the last data on Data Project. 11.3 USA has dipped below 37%... Rough.
I have never seen US teams carry to victory on their own at 8.0 10.0 br ,Germany USSR china and Sweden rule that br
Don’t ignore the stupid spall liner, today I shot too many STRv122s and that spall liner + fuel tank eat the 3BM60. Seriously, no shrapnel at all.
Im happy with this tank added, with its introduction they added a lot of bots as well so i can get a lot of kills without fighting players
If you want to get technical, this is tier 8 which is "top tier". However it isn't max BR for GRB so Gaijin does in fact sell top tier vehicles... They just don't sell max BR vehicles
I was planning on buying it to finish my American tech tree ,since I’ve been playing only top tier with other nations ,but seriously,USA top tier is hell at the moment…
Every match that I’ve got paired with Americans ,it’s a loss
So yeah ,I don’t know ,may wait a little bit
Nice content Justin
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Half the reason why we lose besides Russian bias are the fact that we get level 30s playing top tier with their one singular tank so when their premium gets destroyed because they do not know what they are doing, then they leave and thus they cause the us and allies to loose.
The cursed Abrams.
The despicable Abrams.
Top tier is rough if you're fighting against Russian MBTs. They have an infinite HP invisible spal liner. Look at any russian MBT that doesn't have a 'spal liner' and you'll see your darts don't spal like they do against NATO tanks. When you hit a NATO tank it's like someone shot a massive shotgun in your tank.
Facts
God, you people are pathetic...
dude I play US and the Leos are worse than russian tanks
There is so much wrong in this one comment
This is an invalid complaint. 9/10 times you shoot a Russian MBT in the lower plate it's dead, same with driver port weakspot. Sides are an easy kill unless you miss the crew and hit the engine.
I find Leopards are the most survivable top tier tanks. Abrams are jacks, T-80s and T-90s are like heavy tank roles in a sense. Leopards are ace tanks while the Strv 122s are just god-tier.
I think the Abrams could be fixed if they made it so rounds that bounce off the upper front plate couldn't pen the turret ring anymore that small change would probably boost Abrams survability by a lot.
Yea I don't see them doing it tho would be cool.
Yeah but historically they did have a weak spot there but for the sep v2 I think it should get DU even though it was only tested.
One of the quickest ways to boost the Abram’s is to lower the reload speed again and finally give the DU ammo. Finally give us that incredible high pen we know the Abram should have. At least make it a glass cannon where as currently the m1 feels like a brawler that has no pen or armor 😅
@@MrRobschnieder I agree with the du but the sabot pen is fine in my opinion:)
@@OwenBeyer-nr3dv But it isnt fine, having equal pen to leos while lacking the armor and survivability.
7:57 "I see this guy" (as a Leopard drives through his gunsight)
I have the tank to help my 11.3 us lineup with the hstvl and m1 aim. I have been loving it but the teams even in down tiers are bad. Plus the ammo i take less than what justin used in the beginning to help survive a little bit better.
nice landing XD You see the first Jurassic Park Justin? That wait wait wait wait reminded be of the lawyer right before he gets chomped
Tank has shitty cheeks and mantlet
Tank has issues turning at low speed
shitty hull armor
Tank reloads quite fast
It reverses quite fast
turret is okay if angled over ridgline(which you should be doing either way)
Problem with it is that its underpowered af compared to strv 122b or a7 or t90M
Also new players are playing it which makes it die fast and have 1 tank players who dont play objectives so thers that too
I personaly do good in it
Between the click-bait and the Leo123... there's a single braincell rattling around.
Gaijin does sell top tier vehicles in my opinion. Anything 10.7 and higher can get uptiered and therefore fights at top tier. The click bait is fully capable of fighting at 11.7. As are a couple other high BR premiums offered.
Its simple; they added this vehicle so players can buy them selves a full top lineup with the Squadron M1A (+lower BR premiums ... maybe), the AH-64 brickpache, and throw the A-10, A-6 and (very) maybe the F-4S for CAS to have a full valet-warrior set, with the ever so popular US !
I have found that the only way to play American top tier is to play in arcade because you have a mix of all the tech trees.
I played a single game of top tier britain yesterday, my entire team apart from one other person was playing russia, i got 1 kill and ran across the entire map to cap the point since it was battle and my team just crowded around the enemys spawns
the maps are too small
they should be 25km square
Love the F15 landing. Made my day
8:05 Justin that other tank was an enemy💀💀💀
sitting back engaging targets at distance is what real tanks do in real life. so i like this type to playstyle. its smart. too many COD types on this game nowadays
22:08 well.. that's because the U.S has always had their wars up about the Middle-East, where the majority of the countries they had fought had no access to Sabot rounds, let alone DU Sabots.
i think if your vehicle can be matched with vehicles at the current max BR (For example 10.7-11.7 currently as of writing) Its a top tier vehicle.
This tank kills me more in top tier than any other tank. It’s armour is nuts and arguably bugged. 75% of my side shots to this tank deflect my DM53’s.
That's pretty much all what top tier is is sniping, it's what I love around the 6.0 BR there's still brawling.
I enjoy the sniping content haha, I tend to do similar when I do ground
I enjoy the sniping content :)
Nice to learn the spots
wow first time i saw a man whos play a WT until the end of clip. Now U r my fav WT youtuber. I am from Thailand. sorry for my vocab.
When irl the turret ring is literally 400-500mm thick
if it can get to 11.7, or whatever the current top tier is it should be considered a top tier vehicle
Because of how many people buy these they should be put in specific matches to people at a similar level so if you buy a top tier premium below level 50 then your put in only matches with other similar people or just something where their not in matches with the people who grinded it so their not tanking the win rated
It's clearly a top tier, gaijin doing this only to introduce and sell top tierrs 😂 btw great video!
100 percent
to me, any vehicle that can see top tier matches is a top tier premium, full stop.
Back when the X-M1 was added into the game, it was 9.0, with the top BR of 10.0. It saw top tier every game or close to it. It was for all intends and purposes, a top tier premium. Same goes for the click bait.
I enjoy all of the top-tier Contant. I am watching to see how I should be playing. Please do not skip out on tactics that you think are “boring”.
American top tier now have 29% of wins (this is statistics collected by youtuber K2 by downloading more than 100k replays few days ago)
The reason the US underperforms imo is because they have everyone else but the US spall liners, ever though they were one of the first to implement ut
I think the Abrams needs a turret ring buff as well as the bottom of the turret face. I honestly don't think a hull buff would help most of the time youre hull down anyway or you just shoot turret ring cause its so large.
That leo track aimbot tho
maybe they should make it to where you have to be a certain level in the game like 30 or 40 to be able to buy these top tier packs? it might be a good idea
I'm brand new. I die to spawn CAS - ALOT, DAILY. I die to enemy spawn camping - ALOT, DAILY. I die to enemy spawn camping across the darn map, in every single vehicle I've grinded out I die fast. So when I saw the click bait, I wanted it. I researched it and knew its armor sucked compared to the AIM but I wanted it if only for the chair (hehe). I love the handling. It feels natural to play with. I had the same experience with my T92. Couple days ago I capped a zone with my T92 and left to patrol. An IS-3 decided to cap it back. Nah ah.. that cap belongs to me! So I went back and got directly in his face, found a little crater 15 feet in front of him on a small berm and dared him to make any move that would allow him to get me while starring directly at him .. lol I'm sure I drove that boy stupid.
I'm only at 7.7 so I've yet to play even 1 round of any kind in it. I like the hi-tier vehicles and can afford them (I have a couple) but I've not earned my way to top tier yet so its test drive and custom battles for me for now while I grind out my AIM. But with the US tree having questionable choices for a lineup between 7.7 and 10, the squad is starting to give me lectures on things to expect in things to come soon,
AMX video when?
Soon!
@@JustinPlaysTV nice
Tank is good, it’s just most ppl who play it aren’t very experienced and tend to suck, most abrams also have the same problem with ppl not playing them good but it is a learning curve and the abrams in game and war thunder in general has some inaccuracies that hurts this tank too
I like sniping content as it's my favourite playstyle if the map allows it
I do enjoy sniping content but at 7:57, I guess you forgot Germany wasn't on your team 😂
Tunnel vision was mean o.o
heres to (probably) the last US top tier video for a while. and a 12th day of asking ol mate Justin to play the HKP9.
top tier us feels super bad but on a somewhat positive side note the m1a1 and us 11.0 line up is godtier rn its like 90% downtiers.
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH don’t tell them gayjin will bring it up to 11.3 🤣😭
Don't use landing gears when landing, but don't wiggles your plane left and right when going fast
The play on words with it not being a top tier tank is True but it does have top tier Match Making.
Hey Justin, can you revisit the leo 2 pzbtl? I know you've done a video on it before but i'd like to see your playstyle with it within the current state of ground battles at 10.3
What's funny every time I help someone on repairing they always helps me
I have the Click-Bait and I really really like it. Shame they didn't give it Gen 2 thermals but Gaijin doesn't really like the US
shame gen2 starts with the foldered sep on 11.7, gaijin hates the us, meanwhile the turms with gen2 on 10.0
The HCs never had 2nd gen thermals unfortunately, being a bit of a parallel to the M1A2s. I reckon US top tier MBT thermals are relatively okay now with both SEPs and the AIM. As a follow-up to the tech tree HC, I'm just waiting for the M1A1 FEP so we get a tech tree M1A1 with good thermals along with the 16 smokes :3
I will never understand why some people hate the click bait. It's alot better the Abrams that came before it
I dont care if inexperienced players use top tier premiums (and yes anything that sees top tier in matchmaking is a top tier premium) but the problem is that they only get at best 2 spawns and as long as they are only playing 1 vehicle it wont lock someone out anyway for leaving a match so its just a bad idea for gameplay.
I have 10,0 premiums, but i always waited until i was within 1 BR of the vehicle I wanted before getting it and running it in matches that way I still had a usable lineup to play with if I died early on.
Yeah. I don't think I got the T-55AM-1 until I already had a T-54.
07:55 Leo7 passes thur you sight as you trying to snipe the hardest target and he’s right in front lol. I was like… is he gonna shot that guy or am I missing something here?
16:45 Still waiting on that bug report that got acknowledged.
Low tiers are used to hearing there enemy, Then they get in the abrams and cannot hear anything other then there own engine.
Whats that for a space between the armorplates in the front? 👋 I saw the stormin norwan gun camo infront of my gunner sight looking ⭐ 🤔 would be not the first time 🌞
My win rate while playing grb for top tier America used to be around 54%, but if you look at the more recent vehicles like the new abrams and what not, its now like 40%. Playing america at top tier now adays is one of the worst types of torture you can endure. About 70% of your team consists of lvl 10-60s who only have premium / squad vehicles and have 0.2 kds across the board. It all went down hill as soon as they started adding things like the a-10, and the m1a1 aim. A bunch of 10yr children who think the a-10 is the best plane ever and will win against a mig 29 and all they have to do is fly in a straight line and go brrrrt now infest the american top tier.
I really like the Australian Abrams.
Is that discount works on PS4 as well? Because I plan to buy the Turm III to help my grind
5:30 what do you mean by "all but the 5 rounds?"
the game should queue players based off of level and BR so level 5s who buy a top tier plane or tank are up against other low level players who bought top tier tanks and planes
That auto range finder stuff, how can I compete on console ?
This is just my thoughts on premium vehicles, I think the vehicles themselves aren't really over powered or paid to win. War thunder is an extreme game of skill and game knowledge and new players who buy premiums is annoying at times it is more the new players who dont take the time to learn how to properly set your rangefinder, positioning and more because they skip those vital lessons when they dont play the lower tiers. I have bought my fair share of premium vehicles but i dont have the time to spend ages grinding out a tech tree, i view them as a time saving to get the to the vehicles I enjoys playing, (sidenote i commend anyone who is entirely free to play and is at top tier your have way more time and patience than i do). but i think it all could be fixed by simply making it so that the higher teir vehicles are only able to be bought when you have a vehicle in the rank. making it so that the top tier environment is littered with one spawn teammates but also makes it so that you can learn the lessons needed to do well at top tier. Will this happen probably never, but it is a a thought.
Hey Justin! I have a question: which do you think would be worth it more? M1 Kvt or Click Bait? I love the normal m1 abrams but i have the m1a1 aim and i love it too? Wich one do you prefer more?
KVT as 10.3 is more linier to play in.
IMO
It might not be 11.7 top tier but if you get uptier more than anything else, then its a top tier tank
Bro Justin, your video is total Clickbait 😥
Gotta get them views xP
@@JustinPlaysTVI’ve played clickbait for Christmas
It’s a very good tank for arcade and realism
But in assault, this tank is quiet expensive unlike the cheaper KVT.
But both tanks preform well in a particular role
Plus I’m currently setting a desert storm line up with these tanks as a collective piece which also includes the F-4S which you are missing
But besides this, the new HC is no flop or what internet folks call a “clickbait.” It’s a glorious tanks for a marine style gameplay. Plus you are given the option to play like an HC or surprisingly enough, the M1A2. But as it gets upteired, it gets vulnerable to higher tanks, even another abrams, but if it’s in downteir, this is where the clickbait strikes.
All I’m saying, plan wisely and you can get an abrams to victory and might as well troll some noobs while at it
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8:52 dont want to sound like a nerd but top tier is 11.7 - 12.3 because of aircraft
How did you take of that damn chair of the turret ?
What do you think they’ll make Germany top tier? 2a6 2a7 ? A canadien variant would be amazing ,
That decal on the top left isn't part of the abrams is it
Personally I see anything from 10.0 and up as top tier. With that being said, I called lies on gaijin's claim. Put on the same hand, I was not at all surprised to see them add top-tier vehicles as premiums.
There would be no problem with "top tier premiums" if you could only buy them from lvl 50-60
A small suggestion: when you have those short messages make them slightly longer. When I'm on the computer they are fine, I can stop the video to read them. When I'm on the phone it is just too hard to pause the video so I usually don't bother