At what point are we going to learn the limits of the Predator bottom end? UA-camr StangMode blew his engine at one point, but I don’t think I’ve heard of any other folks suffering the same fate.
@@asdf51501 so the reason stangmode blew up is because he leaned the car out being on e85 with just upgraded injectors but stock fuel system making over 1000whp. That being said I’m curious as to the limits as well
You are the guru of the GT500. It's fantastic what your able to accomplish from the engine to the DTC. I'm wondering if you are working with Ford performance regarding your products, kits and testing. It would be a huge advantage regarding Ford Performance and continuing moving the GT500 to improved performance levels and I'm guessing helping you as well. I can't imagine where Ford will take the GT500 in the future, but with your R&D. The only direction is up. As always. Great Job!
I'm always so impressed with the content and quality of your videos. I don't understand why you channel doesn't have 100k plus subscribers! Believe me as soon as my Bullitt hits 36k, I'm getting a PBD tune!
What a lot of content, great to the comparison between the ported stock blower & the new gen.5 Whipple blower, love the breakdown on the dyno output and graphs. Can't wait to see more track time under better conditions, with the 8 second pass.
3:41 I would set the hook to as in line as you can, meaning, lower them down. I was a forklift mechanic, those guards are good at keep thing from going backwards mainly, I've seen them pop things off and lean forward. Still hook it to the guard, but down lower to not give it as much leverage on the guard.
Thanks for the detailed content, dislike the other videos out there with people just showing it making massive amount of power but not a single detail about the setup. There are 3 very important things people need to understand before compaing supercharger against each other and the power the make those are elavation, blower RPM speed and then boost. A recurring theme people who pay attention will notice smaller supercharger tend to always make massive amount of torque down low and even comparable hp vs the larger superchargers at certain boost level. Some people spin them harder to make more power but there are negatives of course that comes with that. Those negatives are high blower rpm and heat in the or higher IAT's. Right now the 3.8L is bascially stretching its legs and the 2.7L is giving it its all. So once one starts to make the larger supercharger match the blower speed (or match the same amount of effort) of the smaller one, thats when you start to see the big difference the two blowers, higher achievable boost levels without boost dropping off in the upper rpms, lower iats compares to the smaller blowers, and of course more power. Great video with a lot of good information
At this state at least. It seems unless you plan build the engine. Run well over 20psi of boost and continue to hope the DCT will be able to become tuned. It seems the stock blower can produce all the power 99% of the GT500 owners might have desire to and the stock engine and transmisson might still be able to hold and stay reliable.
Lol “beyond having to drop the KMember it wasn’t too bad” um ..... if this happened to me I would have needed therapy... lmao you guys are amazing at what you do. Cheers
@@carltasca877 torque is 70-80 off of the maxed out stock blower setup and partially due to the way the airflow works of the bigger blower. 24 psi at 3500 rpm vs the 3.8 whipple 16-17 psi at same. Do stock blowers make 1000whp on 93?
Hay what do you guys do with all the old superchargers that you take off of the gt500s . Do you offer a kit with the old chargers for us working stiffs who don't have a lot of money. I just bought a mach one and don't have a lot of money but really really want to supercharge it
Do you drag in track mode for the higher rpms or drag in drag mode for the over power? I heard most people use track mode at the track, I've only made two passes in drag mode so far.
Actually sidewall isn’t the issue. Believe it or not the 325/35 will perform better than the 305/45 simply bc this car will bog more from having too tall a gear from the tire height
The Lowering the engine does that stay permanently like that or does it go back up after you put the whip on because I wouldn't think that that would be good to keep it down like that
On the dash shot the AFR was super rich at 7, am I missing something? What fuel are you using and is it causing the AFR to read down into the 7's? It's a beast though!!!!
When done properly, manually shifting the car is actually faster and at higher power levels its more consistent then letting the car try to shift for itself.
Plus unless something changed in auto shift mode the car only shifts at stock rev limiter of 7300rpm. We shift at 8500 at the track manually shifting. I wish the car would shift auto at 8500. I hope that changes soon.
would someone be so kind as to explain why a smaller pulley make more power? I get that the smaller the faster it spins, is that where the extra power comes from?
Congratulations Ken, you have a legit 8 sec Snake 🐍,, I use your products and subscribe cause your Shitz work! Period ‼️💯 with some cooler temperatures and a better 60 foot, Eights all day!! Still riding with ya!! Thanks
With the lower dampener at 20% that Shelby is gone want to blow any contender in the weed , like Carol Shelby said one time when he was hired has a race drive. Damn Ken could it be a 8 sec street mustang Shelby. Awesome 👏
We're just getting started with this Whipple 3.8L setup! Wait until you guys see the numbers we made with the 3.0" pulley 😳😳 Stay Tuned!
My guess is between 1300-1350whp
You guys are a bad influence on me. Sounds like I may be spending some more money. Lol !
😂 We'll make sure it's money well spent!
At what point are we going to learn the limits of the Predator bottom end? UA-camr StangMode blew his engine at one point, but I don’t think I’ve heard of any other folks suffering the same fate.
@@asdf51501 so the reason stangmode blew up is because he leaned the car out being on e85 with just upgraded injectors but stock fuel system making over 1000whp. That being said I’m curious as to the limits as well
“Install is easy”
- brings in fork lift 😂
😅
Screw a engine hoist, use a forklift 🤣
And then still has to drop the K-Member. Lol!!
that's some hellacious mph for a car you can drive and cruise all over South Florida love it.
You are the guru of the GT500. It's fantastic what your able to accomplish from the engine to the DTC. I'm wondering if you are working with Ford performance regarding your products, kits and testing. It would be a huge advantage regarding Ford Performance and continuing moving the GT500 to improved performance levels and I'm guessing helping you as well. I can't imagine where Ford will take the GT500 in the future, but with your R&D. The only direction is up. As always. Great Job!
I'm always so impressed with the content and quality of your videos. I don't understand why you channel doesn't have 100k plus subscribers! Believe me as soon as my Bullitt hits 36k, I'm getting a PBD tune!
Can't wait to tune it! Thanks for watching!
What a lot of content, great to the comparison between the ported stock blower & the new gen.5 Whipple
blower, love the breakdown on the dyno output and graphs. Can't wait to see more track time under better
conditions, with the 8 second pass.
We'll have a follow up video soon with more data, more power, and hopefully some faster passes!
That moment when you realize your supercharger is the same size as a GTR engine...
😂😂
😅😅😅😂😂😂
3:41 I would set the hook to as in line as you can, meaning, lower them down. I was a forklift mechanic, those guards are good at keep thing from going backwards mainly, I've seen them pop things off and lean forward. Still hook it to the guard, but down lower to not give it as much leverage on the guard.
Hopefully we won't be doing this with a forklift ever again 😅
Thanks for the detailed content, dislike the other videos out there with people just showing it making massive amount of power but not a single detail about the setup. There are 3 very important things people need to understand before compaing supercharger against each other and the power the make those are elavation, blower RPM speed and then boost. A recurring theme people who pay attention will notice smaller supercharger tend to always make massive amount of torque down low and even comparable hp vs the larger superchargers at certain boost level. Some people spin them harder to make more power but there are negatives of course that comes with that. Those negatives are high blower rpm and heat in the or higher IAT's. Right now the 3.8L is bascially stretching its legs and the 2.7L is giving it its all. So once one starts to make the larger supercharger match the blower speed (or match the same amount of effort) of the smaller one, thats when you start to see the big difference the two blowers, higher
achievable boost levels without boost dropping off in the upper rpms, lower iats compares to the smaller blowers, and of course more power. Great video with a lot of good information
The Whipple is a beast on that car. Can’t wait to see more out of it.
Stay tuned!
Great info! My question is how much power and rpms can the stock engine's handle safety? (8700rpm) that's insane. I have a 2020 gt/ 10sp
If u daily drive it even 500whp is plenty enough to have fun!
holy shit the power gains. what other bolt ons do yall have on the car or bone stock with the supercharger????
What did your fuel system look like for the 3.75 pulley? Injector size? Boost a pump or full fuel system?
This guy is a genius
Holy crap what RPM is that! You blow past 8000 RPMs and still gain another 10 miles an hour
3.8 Whipple, forged Modern Hemi?
Man you guys have the best shit. Love all of these dyno upgrade videos
More on the way!
These videos are the reason why i Chose Palm Beach Over Lund 🔥💯 Ken doing these videos shows us how Dedicated he is on his Job 👍
Thanks for watching!
@@PalmBeachDyno Suscribed for sure 👍 Looking forward on getting Tuned by ya'll .
Performance aside, these new pony's are beautiful. The rest is just icing on the cake.
Agreed!
See I come from 4 and 6 cyl turbo so this is insane to me. Nasty
Those dyno straps were holding on for dear life🙌
At this state at least.
It seems unless you plan build the engine. Run well over 20psi of boost and continue to hope the DCT will be able to become tuned.
It seems the stock blower can produce all the power 99% of the GT500 owners might have desire to
and the stock engine and transmisson might still be able to hold and stay reliable.
Great points!
Great job Ken as always!!
Excellent job 👏 so far. Can't wait for the next video!
Tomorrow!
That trans is holding you back
i love the sic and angry sound of new Shelby's
This you guys beef up the trans? Basket? Plates? Stock?
Why is the tq so low? Sounds wicked though, got to be fun to spin it over 8500
Dragtimes would've been in trouble if you brought this car!
Will these motors live longer at a lower rpm? 8500+ seems insane when pushing the limits lol.
All to be said is,WOW!!!!
Been waiting for this 🙌
What size Pulley can I go with on a GT500 for good gains without being tuned?
2.9"
@@PalmBeachDyno can you recommend someone in Illinois that can do the job?
That forklift around the car gave me real bad anxiety 😬 but anyway amazing turnout, let her rip!
Haha not recommended but we had to get it done!
What ever happened to the 7.3 super duty?
We still have it! Been a busy few months but we will have an update soon 😈
Lol “beyond having to drop the KMember it wasn’t too bad” um ..... if this happened to me I would have needed therapy... lmao you guys are amazing at what you do. Cheers
Ken, you didn’t mention fuel. I’m assuming 93 on the 3.75 and 3.5 pulleys and race gas at the track??
Guaranteed that was always on e85. For smaller pulleys they will probably go to a specialized Ignite red / one ethanol R.
E85 should have yielded a lot more torque. The relatively low torque suggests lower timing for pump but I wanted to hear from Ken for sure.
@@carltasca877 torque is 70-80 off of the maxed out stock blower setup and partially due to the way the airflow works of the bigger blower. 24 psi at 3500 rpm vs the 3.8 whipple 16-17 psi at same. Do stock blowers make 1000whp on 93?
Great question Carl. We run One Ethanol R in this car, both on the dyno and at the track!
Stoked for PBD
Need to manual swap one too and I will take notice. Its broken to me with a auto.
Nice ride man what mufflers are them I want to put them on my tow rig to haul my drag car to the track
Which ones?
Hay what do you guys do with all the old superchargers that you take off of the gt500s . Do you offer a kit with the old chargers for us working stiffs who don't have a lot of money. I just bought a mach one and don't have a lot of money but really really want to supercharge it
Don't they make a 5 liter whipple?
The engine is stock?
Yes
@@PalmBeachDyno wow thats awsome, greats video. 👍🏻👍🏻
Hey Ken Have you guys had any issues with the throttle body on the 3.8 Whipple
Are you doing a built motor at some point, to really let that Whipple eat?
😁😁😁
I wonder what you could sell the stock eaten off the GT500 for
Did you find that the injectors move up and down slightly when using the spacers and top hole?
Let's GO!🐍
Do you drag in track mode for the higher rpms or drag in drag mode for the over power? I heard most people use track mode at the track, I've only made two passes in drag mode so far.
Track mode bc you can’t shift the car in drag mode
We use track mode!
@@PalmBeachDyno thanks for the info
Is this a factory block??
Where did you get those seats in your GT500? They are gorgeous!
Thanks, those are Tillett seats and we had the logo custom made!
I think with a smaller wheel and bigger tire you can hit that 8 second pass
Actually sidewall isn’t the issue. Believe it or not the 325/35 will perform better than the 305/45 simply bc this car will bog more from having too tall a gear from the tire height
Dam it would be great to get 1 off these in australia, maybe 1 day! Great job
Thanks for watching all the way from Australia!
IMPRESSIVE!
I get my gt500 in 2 months. See you guys soon 😁
Hell yeah!
Great content. Looking forward to the next video.
Thanks for watching and stay tuned!
What is the smallest pulley you can put on the stock block running c85
It seems like the unported 3.8 would be much better in the torque department.
Lower pulley would even it out
Amazing track runs 🏁🏁🏁!!
What is the first song in video? Keep the Good Job 👍🏻
Can't remember honestly, pulled it from an audio library, I'll have to go back and check
@@PalmBeachDyno ok , thanks
The Lowering the engine does that stay permanently like that or does it go back up after you put the whip on because I wouldn't think that that would be good to keep it down like that
I'm assuming permanent
Dropping the motor isn’t a big deal. People have been lowering the motors in s550s for awhile. All the parts are available off the shelf.
Permanently lowered
Guys were lowering the engine to fit 3.4 Whipples under their Terminator's stock hood. It's been done for quite some time.
Great video. I am also interested in your afr’s
Hello PBD,
Great video! Keep it going! God Bless!!!
Thanks for watching!
Nice 🎥 by the way I have a flex fuel tune from PBD from HellHorse Performance can't wait to order my ProCharger d1x
On the dash shot the AFR was super rich at 7, am I missing something? What fuel are you using and is it causing the AFR to read down into the 7's? It's a beast though!!!!
Looks like his running e85. The afr reading is calibrated for gas. That’s close 11 afr on e85.
You should put this 3.8 on the new Raptor R!
Great video! Can I ask at the track why u were using the paddle shifts vs letting the car just shift for you?
When done properly, manually shifting the car is actually faster and at higher power levels its more consistent then letting the car try to shift for itself.
Plus unless something changed in auto shift mode the car only shifts at stock rev limiter of 7300rpm. We shift at 8500 at the track manually shifting. I wish the car would shift auto at 8500. I hope that changes soon.
That makes sense. Thanks for the reply!
Do you use the launch control, or do you hold both the paddles?
8700 RPM? Now we talking.
😁😁😁
Holy shit this thing squats and takes off
Y’all tune 2021 Gt’s yet?
We've been tuning them for a while now!
Would be cool to see the 3.8 Whipple GT500 versus the Tesla Plaid
Stay tuned!
@@PalmBeachDyno will do. Looking forward to it.
Jeremy, great job on the install! Love this content!👌👍😎🤓
Thanks for watching!
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Awesome video
Thanks for watching!
Hm, I am 5 10 tenths slower in a B9 s4. Cool. Wish I could get a not shitty HPFP.
And them I watch more. full second slower 👏
😂 Thanks for watching! Hoping to go even faster soon
Holy crap that’s fast!
would someone be so kind as to explain why a smaller pulley make more power? I get that the smaller the faster it spins, is that where the extra power comes from?
Faster it spins more boost to push the engine
@@Tinofrmda8 I see. Thanks for the explanation
How much would the installation on a 5.0 mustang would be with a similar wipple?
Congratulations Ken, you have a legit 8 sec Snake 🐍,, I use your products and subscribe cause your Shitz work! Period ‼️💯 with some cooler temperatures and a better 60 foot, Eights all day!! Still riding with ya!! Thanks
🤘🏾🤘🏾
Y does it look like you have two big dents on Whipple lid lol
😂 The lid is angled in that area to provide clearance for the strut tower brace!
Sweeeettt Jesus 😳😳😳😳😳
Lol 1 hit on the track and u need a roll cage. Love it
And it's only gonna get faster 😁
Beautiful car😍😍
Great content
😎
Now imagine the 3.0 pulley.
Moar power baby 😁
3.8 ?? that's a huge blower
Consistency!
So awesome
😁😁
Holy Sh*t!
😏 Yea.. we get that a lot
SKEET SKEET SKEET😍😍
A 9.2 from a 3.8L ??
Oh my
Is it
Your Cold start sounds like mine 😂😂😂😂 why is that?
Imagine that motor in a f150 😬
With the lower dampener at 20% that Shelby is gone want to blow any contender in the weed , like Carol Shelby said one time when he was hired has a race drive. Damn Ken could it be a 8 sec street mustang Shelby. Awesome 👏
😎 We'll find out soon
Put one on a stock 5.0
Sweet good info
More to come, stay tuned!
Nice! 👍🏼
Sweet