TVR Sagaris - Just Don't Crash | Car Review | Top Gear
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- Опубліковано 19 лют 2009
- Jeremy Clarkson and The Stig test drive the TVR Sagaris on Top Gear's test track. Great car review video available in full high quality on the BBC Top Gear UA-cam channel. Don't forget to visit www.topgear.com for all the latest news and car reviews!
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No ABS, no TCS, no airbags, and the tell you: well, don't crash. I think I'm in love.
Great car for smashing your forehead on the dash or steering wheel when a bad driver runs into you beyond your control ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
SHOTGUN MATE ... I'M YOUR MAN ...
@@DeathBringer769 SO THAT IS ONLY FOR TVR CARS ??? REALY ... LOL....
even the newest new tvr never had any of those things.
@@jonathangwynne1917 what total horseshit - ALL Peter wheeller cars have hydaulic brakes - what do you think they used cables????
TVR: *Notices a fault*
"Oh dear" *Puts it on sale*
Sums up TVR
BMW did exactly that with M5 E60. The customers who bought this M5 were test drivers for reliability of the car.
Aaryesh G. No wonder they didn’t keep the v10 💔
OH NO!
Anyway...
Hmm, that doesn't look right. Oh well.
Caught by the police at max speed.....Sorry officer i was only doing 20.
asambi69 Lol, you took the words right out of my mouth.
If some one really was in this situaltion, he was probably driving a Smart
Digital speedometer tho...
He wont believe you of course. Which doesn't matter because the fine will only be 32 pound...
Why are you looking angry at me officer?
Damn... This car is 10 years old already, but it still looks modern.
True
+TheLaXandro I agree, *I think it's THE coolest looking vehicle to date!* I love the super-aggressive styling, it's industrial rear end, the side exhaust, and how it's engineered to be a true GEARHEAD'S vehicle!
~Who cares about italian leather and butt-warmers, I want a badass performing and looking sports car, and the Sagaris does both!
+TheLaXandro Yeah, it has aged incredibly well...
and has held or increased in value
it's about 70k now
1:32 i love how the sound editor added engine in there so people wouldn't get confused and think it had a 4 litre bottle of soda
By people I think you mean Americans
he originally said it had a 4 liter flat 6 but the error was caught late in editing and they did this
@@spookyghost7524 i didnt notice the cut in the edit, and now i cant unhear it haha
It was of course a 4 litre straight 6.
"when one of the customers wrote to the factory complaining about how dead he was" i can't stop laughing hahahaha
well,, unless you live his (former) life that is of course(!)
Juan Simon Alvarez “not dead enough. Make one with 600 hp”
@@edgiestofcars They did. It's called the Typhon, and you can't have one. (Only 3 ever made)
1:32 "ITS GOT A 4 LITRE engine UNDER THE BONNET"
Yes its a straight-6 and 400 hp. 💪
@@aaryeshg.6526 I was commenting on how they added 'engine' after the fact and it doesnt fit his tone of speech at the time
@@Speedlovar oh I see lmfao. The producer probably joined 2 sound clips and vids together and didn't think of that. 🤣
I think Clarkson might’ve accidentally said, “It has a 4 Litre V8 under the bonnet” when the car actually has a Straight 6 engine
The fact that it managed to be that fast without any electronics is all the more impressive. And I love the irony of the Noble guys helping to tune the handling on it only for it to end up being faster than their own car :)))
I love how TVRs usually look like rage, anger, fury, with tires.
I saw few TVR's in my life and there's just one word that describe them perfectly... SAVAGE!
Sound like it too!
TVR = Terrifying, Vicious Ride.
Terrific violent ride
You've clearly never driven one. I have - every day for the last 10 years.
And you are talking utter bollocks.
Troublesome vehicle repairs.
TreVoR .... named after a benign British name, a bit like calling a car company NGL, after a man named Nigel
MrHistorian123 how’s it like then?
The first page in the instruction manual for my Chimaera is a message from Peter Wheeler (the then chairman) basically warning about the car having a high torque to weight ratio, and that it can "can lead to the approaching of obstacles at higher speeds than imagined." I love everything about the ethos of this company in this era. "Have fun, use your judgment and try not to bin it." An antidote to modern cars with their nannying electronics and endless warning beeps and chimes. Also one of the few cars that makes you smile just starting it up.
I recall reading the same and allowing myself a chuckle! I used to see loads of TVR's at a TVR breakers in the North East, I couldn't why they also seemed to have been rear ended - then I discovered the consequences of hoofing it out of a junction on a damp road and nearly ending up looking where I'd just come from! It definitely demands respect!
That power slide through Hammerhead was epic.
TVR is the Dark Souls of the car world
Noble too
Dodge Viper and old 911s as well.
Ranked match of car world
TVR Speed 12
Well when the factory's justification for having no safety features at all is basically "git gud scrub".
RIP T.V.R
RIP Top Gear
Wiggysan Wiggysan tvr are still in business. New car out
@@SNORKYMEDIA err, not really.
@@SNORKYMEDIA Still waiting for the new Griffith.... 😂
Imagine TVR making 6 distinct models in 2020, all decidedly driver focused 🤤
There's the new Griffith which is supposedly as good as the Sagaris
@@mrtom2854 did it come out tho. It supposed to come out in 2019
@@dr.science_0177 there are a few privately owned Griffiths, but it hasn't officially released
(Comment will be updated if I find more info)
[UPDATE] It doesn't officially release until 2022, and there is only one officially registered road car (the original 2017 show car), which is believed to be the only one built so far
@@dr.science_0177 They had some EU law trouble. Fingers crossed Brexit will actually help hurry this car up! Haha!
@@thfreakinacage nah. Not even Brexit is gonna save it because how poor it is at user safety
TVRs seem like an amazing bargain.. the styling alone deserves a 100k price... TVR makes my dream car... they're art. It's the exact vision that it was designed. Without anyone stepping in to "fix" it. It pisses me off I can't get one for 25 years... TVR is love.
They sort of are until they break. They don't have much of a reputation for reliability sadly but they do look killer.
The Sagaris cost 50k new, now worth 90k. Anyone who bought one and kept it has more than made their money back :P
@@vtrmcs reading a recent buyers guide on a chimera it said put away another £10k for the inevitable full engine rebuild. they may seem like a bargain but you are spot on
@@ReplicantBattyman and having the body taken of so you can inspect, patch up and Waxoyl the chassis.
Ian Thompson thing is with TVR there not very reliable😂.. absolute monster of a car though!
Tvr is the carbrand of throwing all of your favorite ingredients in a pot and adding a ghost pepper
TVRs are amazing cars to admire
While wearing a helmet
Behind a crash barrier
Peeking using a camera ofc...
Just saying the guy who made the sagaris is my design and technology teacher, his name is lee hodgetts, really nice guy
can you thank him from me
Buy him a pint for all of us will ya
@@biplopqusquddin2278 sure will
Damn bit of a fall from grace don't ya think, still nice looking thing he did a good job.
Your teacher is a very important man in my life and I don't even know who the heck he is.
“It’s got a 4L *eNgInE* “
Alex's Customs jajajaja I’m not the only one who noticed 🤣
RIP audio
I think he messed up and said an extra word and they cut and pasted that sentence together. It sounded like he wanted to say 4 Liter Supercharged Engine.
I've been an importer for a few years now. Recently though, I imported my first TVR; a 1997 Chimaera 400. First known 97 TVR in the States. The other day, I took it to a European car meet. Probably 40-50 cars there and from just about every Euro manufacturer. As soon as I pulled in the parking lot, every conversation went silent, I parked between an Aventador and a McLaren 570s and every single person there crowded around the TVR. And it was the most basic TVR that was sold during the Wheeler era. Can't even imagine their reaction when I can import a Tuscan or one of these.
Very cool
The loss of TVR was a tragedy ... They were just getting their stride in terms of build quality.
The cars themselves were always head-turners.
"IT'S GOT A FOUR LITER ...engine..." Lol
Litre.
Ehh, i should say its a stolen comment
My favorite TVR. Almost nothing about its styling is conventional, and it looks more interesting that even many modern supercars. This is one of those cars I'd love to have just to drive for the fun of it. Sounds great too.
I can't believe how well the styling of this car has held up over the years. I don't know how TVR did it
They did it and iv'e got one . My wife wets her knickers when I floor it !!. The ultimate foreplay !!.
@@colingregson8653 Nooo 😭😭
One of my favorite bits. "They're all plastic shouty things." Lol! Love it!
what?
Jeremy said that near the beginning in this clip.
He said something similar about American news readers.
@@qasimmir7117 holy mother of keks, that made me chortle
I absolutely love that front end. Brilliantly aggressve, and somehow with surprisingly little sharp lines...
Not really into those sideways pipes though.
Andrew Guo You said it brother, that hood is what makes it viscerally orgasmic to me, those "vents" look like there's an angry shark coming at you, almost like gills. (I'd personally like to carefully cut those gills back into vents, and just put some tasteful looking mesh.
I like the pipes, feel a tad sheepish! Like enjoying an awful movie knowing it stinks, but still being entertained
@@cybertree mesh looks cheap
@@cybertree I'd love it if TVR used those fender vents for helping to vent heat from the engine (just make a cowling the leads from the vents to the engine bay). But hell yes the styling is wonderful, it's like a Jag E-type but WAYY more exciting.
@@andrewmitchell5665 I like how different they look, but I don't like them overall because it just _feels_ wrong having a right angle in the exhaust system. I don't mind the Viper's side exhausts because they are at least angled backwards. I _really_ want to get one of these, but when I do I think I'll have some neat pattern of holes drilled into the "back/sides" of those exhaust pipes, and have the angled cut at the end of the pipes going the other direction to make it sort of flush with the rounded rear end of the car. The transparent rear spoiler is my absolute favorite though, next to the fender vents.
''According to the speedometre, the top speed is 20''! So when you get a speeding ticket, you say ''But I was only doing 20!!!'' That'll shut'em up, won't it???
MafiosoItaliano458 gets pulled over for doing 50 cop ask do you know how fast you were going simply say 5 and one he says are you sure point and say well it felt fast but it's a super car lmao yeah I don't think that will work but oh well
toxic top hat Hahaha!!! Yeah, say that your senses are overdeveloped and you feel everything!!! 😜
In TVR world yes it would
That's genius
This car is almost 20 years old, and still looks modern
looks like it was made today, the styling is incredible. i do wonder how insurers react to this car, considering it has no safety systems lol
I remember the first time I saw one of these. I was just amazed by the styling (I only saw the back of it) I just thought it looked amazing
Lucky I saw a f430 in Florida and my mom saw a s7 it was amazing
My dream car list
- TVR Sagaris
- Alfa 4C
its 2015...
Wezzls 4C is a 2014 model
Ik that, but the sagaris is so old
Wezzls True, but then again, so is a Ferrari F40, or a Datsun 280zx, and I'd rather have one of those than any modern car... Except maybe a McLaren P1.
Wezzls Lol, 8 or 9 years? Why even bothering buying any car then, lol
hahaha!!
TVR's argument has always been
"dont crash that!"
lmao!
same argument as ww2 aircrafts. dont get hit
@@royhsieh4307 I’d say WW1.
God damn I miss Top Gear...
Cannot wait for the new TVR coming out soon.
I hope they have enough money this time. Gordon Murray is in involved in It so it will ne good
and it looks beautiful
3 years later and we're still waiting. It's a shame because it looked stunning and at £90k was a dammed sight cheaper than anything else like it.
And it is still not available.
@@AxLWake April 2020. Still not available
TVR: A car where you feel terrifyed at 20 mph
I love TVR and I really think it’s very underrated company.
It’s a hardcore company that can whoop ass
The techno song is Quango by Helix. Courtesy of Shazam
Idk but for some reason I generally really like the music in their reviews. They have exciting music for exciting cars
I think its either Clarkson or the Producer who selects the awesome taste of music for the reviews. It really is epic.
legend!
The comment very useful! Thx a lot!
Haha I could only think of engineering explained with his "Hello and welcome" greeting lol
Roddy Dykes ew no
Nah in actual fact they looked at the T350 targa and decided to build a GT3 version. Bored out the engine, sorted the handling and put on some airo. If they had gone racing the GT3 car would've had the bonnet vents cut out.
no air bag, traction control or other bullshit. Thats a REAL car
***** You don't need to be a bad driver to get killed in a car like this with no security. All it takes is another bad driver to send you 6ft under.
Yes, but there is a small problem, real cars don't fall apart like that piece of crap
No kidding, I didn't think Europe had any balls! I finally found a European engineered sports car THAT I CAN AFFORD! HALLE-FREAKIN'-LUJAH! This thing is suprisingly American in it's philosophy (damn everything but speed), the fact that it's european is probably why Jeremy gave it a fair chance. (still love Jeremy though :P)
Great car for smashing your forehead on the dash or steering wheel ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
It's like the British version of the gen 1 Viper
That hump in the roof is for if you were going to wear a helmet
Huh, I didn't notice that until you mentioned it. (This is also known as a "Gurney Bubble", named after the legendary American racecar driver who was 6'4", and was first put in the Ford GT40 so the man could fit! lol, I think it looks cool anyway.)
If you tried to wear a helmet in this thing, it would forcibly eject you for being a pussy!
Clarkson has the exact same sense of humor as I do, and i never get tired of hearing his sarcasm, and smart remarks. I watch this show every time it's on, and Laugh my head off for the full hour. THANK YOU TOP GEAR! You have successfully created the funniest, most interesting car show on TV!
jeremy is that you LOL
My favorite car in forza it looks insane but is incredibly controllable
s1 class? yes. A class? not so much, but it is really fast
1:24.6 for a car with absolutley No electronic aids, No smart computer systems, No Auto, No Awd, Just good old fashioned lightweight and a good driver, Very impressive, A shame most cars nowadays are filled with computers that drive for you, and a light car today is 3400lbs. too bad.
I mean righ. Above it was so da and koeneseg? Ik that's soeed wrong but you get the point those are both crazy kill you super cars..I mean the stig crashed that ccx and although they have and and traction control that's about it..tc can be turned off..honestly it should have abs kinda stupid and just unsafe not to
Dre Ray how is that a shame? You're like one of those outdated people who hate technology.
Tanner Smith it obviously makes cars slower
Yes becasue safety and living is a thing for the self-aware
in the early 2000s that was the weight of a luxery sedan, oof
That exhaust looks SICK!!!! Amazing design.
In 2005 this is simply a car without any gadgets or refinements, but in 2014 Top Gear would be calling it a stripped out racer and praising it.
I think they still would be nagging about it. They even complain about this with track cars; look at their review of Ariel atom
I would accept no gadgets any day, but the car falling apart its unacetable
I JUST found out about TVR and they're my new favorite company because of this one fact: *it's an AFFORDABLE european sports car* 8D!!! I didn't think they existed! It's like a dodge viper that can actually handle lmao. (I didn't know europe had any balls, they actually sacrificed some safety and price to make a kickass track weapon.)
cybertree Yea they were the best before they went under
lolzorsPwnage But they're back!
My favourite car of all time. My Dad had a TVR S2 when I was little. Since then I've always loved TVR and the Sagaris is just insane!
Realistically my favourite too… un realistically my favourites are the 440R and Speed 12 🤤🤤🤤
I love the TVR Sagaris it's a fantastic sports car and it's one of my all time favourite cars ever and always love it forever and I have and will and I love the sound it makes when you turn it on its like Kirk activated the U.S.S Enterprise
Plus I love the sound of that 4.0 liter Straight Six engine with 400bhp and that beautiful sporty looks
2:37-2:52 No safety equipment? THERE'S a proper car. RAW and VISCERAL. This is why I loved TVRs
Can I interest you in life insurance?
@@Forgemno 🤣😂
Like the original viper, love this thing
Joel Peñaló Exactly. This car is for drivers who know how to drive and handle a car. You give this car to a young guy who is used to drive modern cars, he will kill himself. Young drivers who drive modern cars have no skill to drive one of these. In fact I believe that modern cars just make drivers more useless. In order to make cars more safer for the driver, rules and regulations are pushing the manufacturers to make cars safer with abs, traction control, hill assist, etc but it will make the driver loose the knowledge on how to manage or manoeuvre a car in difficult situations.
@@Forgemno Who cares? At least we die lit better than die of cancer at 60s or worse in 2020s decade, give me 1 TVR sir 🙂
I'll never know why people go misty eyed with kiddy nostalgia at ruler boxes like the ''F40'' and ''Porsche 959''.
I mean, just *look* at this bloody thing; it's a mad fokker on wheels!! And it looks stunning!
fell in love with this car after playing The Crew. truly insane car
I remember in the early 1980s taking a work colleague for a ride of terror in my TVR 2500m during our lunch hour. This was on open country roads and I think I pushed 115mph, my passenger started whimpering and got out of his seat to crouch in the footwell until I slowed down (I can imagine this being narrated in J Clarksons voice), that was over 40 yrs ago and I don’t think I could do it now, however I still love TVRs and still have a Tasmin 280i in the garage.
Annnnnnnd would you like to guess where the door handle is ?
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Nnnno you're quite wrong, it's that little button there
XD
The Speed 12 has an incredible aero package which generates loads of downforce - just take a look at it - form before design. Couple that with 1000kg weight and 880BHP and all you'll need is a good driver (The Stig) and it's more than capable of sub 1:15 on the top gear track.
1:31 "IT HAS A 4 LITER engine UNDER THE BONNET" Classic top gear audio
7:37 The Stig digs ELP!!! I love ELP; a loop of this song's Moog sweep on the intro has been my ringtone for years.
I had a car that the engine sounded like it was trying to escape. But for different reasons. It was a Chevette.
Well, did the engine eventually manage to escape or did it die bevore the rust had freed him?
lol
License plate reads "No Soul". Odd considering how crazy it looks and how amazing it sounds
For this to pop up in my recommended, UA-cam must be INSIDE my mind. This is literally my dream car
Now this brings me back i remember watching this back in the day as a kid
2:44 me pulling up to red lights if I had one of these
😂😂😂
The guys from TVR truly knows how to go around your norms that everyone follows... no abs, no airbags, they did it their own way.... and their way.... is good....
some day this thing will be 25 years old we will finally be able to have them. it will be just as fun and just as mad.
I'm fascinated at how, sometimes, you see a brief moment of understeer, but mostly, it seems to intuitively and smoothly change direction in a constant 4 wheel drift, the front tires basically straight!
Oh man, i love TVR's, theres no such thing as safety in a TVR! Hell ya
Writing from your bespoke jail-cell ?
They’re not so much cars as they are rolling coffins on four wheels.
0:24
"They're all just plastic shouty things"
Look closely, you should see a red dot on jeremy's forehead
that startup is seriously awsome
Another Fabulous Car Video All The Best To Everyone In The Top Gear Team.
1:33 what word was originally there? it sounds like they dubbed it over with the word "engine", but it sounds completely off.
Whatheonearth I think it's an editing mistake.. It has an 4 Liter straight six engine..
i think it was 'cockmuncher'.
I love how in this car, " the engine is trying to escape", yet corvette would be "falling apart".
@116455608808877491966 Depends on the point of view . For some people Porsche is a masterpiece but it is just a piece of shit for me . I'll take the Corvette . Thanks .
Edit : And no im not a vette fanboy what so ever . I just love it over any porsche except for models like 959 and Carrera GT .
Brickhead I can GUARANTEE that whatever country you reside in sells a vehicle faster than all of the above supercars, and is below the pricepoint of $60k. They are reliable daily drivers, that happen to rape face at the track, and *our average joe's can afford them*, only your rich soccer players can drive the cars your judging it against.
If you would have watched the whole video, you would have heard that he said "like all TVRs it smells of glue and bits of the body are coming off". So stop being butthurt.
Vlad B butthurt American detected.
K Li Your ignorance is astonishing to say the least. Judging from your previous comment you are truly a "butt-hurt" child. I am fan of Top Gear and simply pointed out Clarkson's hypocrisy. Nothing more nothing less. Never insulted or brought anything specific into this matter. Stop wasting my time with your stupidity .
I have been in a tvr sagaris a few time’s! My ex gf her boss owned one and lent it to us to look after while he went abroad . We drove around in it a lot showing off n tha lol this was bk in 2006-2008 it was such a stunning car and stupidly fast with a great sound !!🙌
It's one of my favorite cars because it's so crazy especially in a chameleon blue or green color or a burpuple color.
One of my new favourite cars
I really miss TVR... British eccentricity at its finest... No electronics or driver aids, just old school engineering.
I worked for the paint distributor who installed the BASF R-M paint system into the factory.
1) That sound
2) Those exhaust pipes
3) That sound
4) I want one
I love TVRs, specially the Cerbera Speed, it's one of the greatest cars ever.
"Customer wrote to the factory complaining of how dead he was...best line ever" XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
thats one smooth start
When I went to the Goodwood Revival in 2013, I parked next to one, driven by a fellow from the Netherlands dressed in tweeds. Brilliant. Same blue.
I went to that event and my Chimaera ended up displaying next to the Speed 12. It was like standing next to Arnold Schwarzenegger at a body building contest.
My dad had a tvr dealership around 2010 and we had a few tvrs on the driveway all the time, horrifically unreliable but amazing fun we even dealt with alot of press cars, I dont think a single one ever returned with tyres intact, we even offered a rotrex supercharger
We still have a few in a barn, all brand new, even an original 350i with under 100 miles on the clock
Kyle B. You have a few TVRs in barn somewhere??
where is that barn and what are you doing with those cars???
On the outside it's so damn ugly it's an actual work of beautiful art. Having no clue how it feels to drive, the fact that it's all based on old school tech, To me this is a fantastic car that only true drivers understand...
Would love the chance to toss one around
This is Excitement ! I got such a rush watching this car tear up the track ! What a demon on 4 wheels !
I would like this exact car, but with ABS. I'm not particularly brilliant at judging brake pressure in the rain, I've had no problems yet, but once under hard braking, I actually had to downshift to avoid rear ending a car that also brakes suddenly and had ABS.
I love the Sagaris. It's a wonderful car. but the fact that its banned in the U.S. isn't fun at all. I just wish it'll be legal here in the US. Old car but still looks better than many modern cars ever produced
It will be come legal for US import in 2030, and it can already be legally imported into Canada as of 2020, as Canada only requires cars to be at least 15 years old before they can be legally imported there.
Not the car for Mr Loser, Mr fit in the crowd, Mr sheep, and Mr everybody. It's for Mr stand out of the crowd. Respect for TVR.
1:03 Huzzah! A man of quality!
i miss top gear man love jeremy
with that kinda of speedometer
"BUT OFFICER I WAS ONLY DOING 15"
TVR ARE ALL WICKED LOVE THEM .
I like the fact that in this video, he says something like it's the first or only proper handling TVR. But look at his reviews of the Tuscan, the T350C (i think) and the Cerbera. In all of these reviews he finds that the car handles well.
Wow! I really want one of these!
My dad once saw a bad accident where somebody ran a red light & hit a TVR & due to the TVR being fibreglass the bonnet decapitated the driver.
Ouch
Imagine how much better the Sagaris would be if its construction was more solid, used more light-weight materials, and offered more down-force. In some ways, I'd be interested in owning one of these but removing all the paneling and unnecessary interior features, basically making it a more powerful Ariel Atom.
jokrj You sure put a lot of effort into something so petty. The Sagaris is already very comparable to the Atom, hence me pointing out the comparison. Yes, obviously they're mechanically different, but at a glance they're very similar. They're decently modern sports cars with a lot of power and are mechanically very simple. The major difference is the Atom is smaller, weaker, and is basically just a skeleton. Remove the panels from the Sagaris and you basically get a bigger more powerful Atom. It's really not that hard to understand, and even if you get into the semantic differences, they're not significant enough to bitch about.
Peter Schmidt every car would be better for these reasons. kinda obvious
John Michael Twist Not really. Plenty of cars are about as light-weight as they can get without being structurally unsound or stupidly expensive. Plenty of cars out there are built very well where they don't have any creaks, rust, or bends/dents after 10 years of use. The vast majority of cars don't need much downforce at all.
The Sagaris' major pitfalls are heavy panels, poor construction, and poor aerodynamics.
Peter Schmidt thanks for the time, understood completely. Have a great day, and a Happy New Year!
how about if it's poorly constructed, try and improve it rather than take those beautiful designs and features off?
my dad had one of these beasts, the number plate was very similar to the two cars in this video as well
1:03 ; great timing, Jeremy!
"Will he lift?"
*Nose drops*
"Will he?!"
*revs drop*
*Back on throttle halfway through corner*
"Not even the slightest!"
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"Well, don't crash that"
I've wanted this car since it came out. Hasn't aged a bit in my opinion. If I ever move to England I'll be on the hunt for one.
Awesome. I'll take two, and a race spec 1969 Tuscan... Yeeeessss